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Posted by: dudebrah

Hey all -

Again, thanks for all your support - awesome.

I was wondering if someone could enlighten me as to whether there are good tools to modding/sync my V635 with OSX Tiger (aside from the iSync provided with the OS)!!

I want to be able to upload MP3s to my TF Card or the Internal Memory to be able to set it as a ringer. Can I do this via BT? Is there a good FAQ/Guide somewhere detailing how to use Moto phones (preferrably the v635 specifically) with Mac OSX Tiger?

Thanks!!!

Posted by: maxskibinski

In theory you can mod your moto using virtual pc and all the same goodies the wintel folks use, but after a lot of searching it doesn't look like anyone has succeeded. Best way to get mp3s and images is toothing it. with a usb cable OSX doesn't recognize it as an external, and games aren't an option. I hope Moto and Apple change this with some software for the itunes phone.

knock on formica.

Posted by: dudebrah

its really annoying that no-one has developed a P2K-type application for the Mac ..

i might have to dust off my PC! and VirtualPC bungles up the USB connection .. doesnt work out..

Posted by: graffix

You can upload games via Bluetooth.

First you have to pair your phone with your Mac, using the Bluetooth preference pane (Set up new device...), which involves discovering the phone with your Mac, then typing in the access PIN on your phone.

Once this is accomplished, set the Bluetooth menubar item to show in the top menubar (a selection within the preference pane). Click the menubar item, and select the 'Send File...' menu selection. This will bring up the Send File dialog. First select the device you wish to send the file to (most likely your newly paired phone), then select the file you wish to send (the game .jar file). The computer will then send the file to the phone, which will download the file as if it were being downloaded over a wap connection.

As far as ringtones and wallpapers are concerned, just select 'Browse Device...' in the Bluetooth menu item, select the device you wish to browse, and a dialog will pop-up that gives you access to both the phone's internal memory and the transflash card. Of course this only gives you access to 'public' folders, so it's not possible to do any modding via bluetooth, only file transfer of the aforementioned files.

I finally had to buy a real PC to do any serious modding, but I found a cheap PC on ebay for less than $30 and it's worked out great so far... I just control the PC via VNC on my Mac, so it's like having Virtual PC but with full hardware control.

Posted by: maxskibinski

what kind of specs do you need for the pc? i'd be willing to drop dough on one if i don't need to spend too much. one more thing; could you go more in detail about the VNC thing? i'm not familiar with it.

Posted by: dudebrah

not too sure about the specs needed, but im going to assume that the P2K manager app requires very little .. you need a USB port and an OS that supports USB, thats about it i'd imagine ..

as for the VNC ... I dont even know what App that is, but you could probably find it on the VersionTracker website

Posted by: maxskibinski

looked into VNC, its basically a cross platform, remote access program. so you could somehow hook up the pc to the mac, and control the pc via the mac. kinda leery, though. is this gonna be a huge project? and don't the p2k programs require more than just an old pc? won't i need XP or the like?

Posted by: CyberGreg

While not for the faint of heart, there is another option; Moto4lin (which is a misnomer 'cause it should be Moto4lin4OSX)

I have not been able to get my phone connected... yet....

Posted by: maxskibinski

you can't get it connected to your phone.....okay. so does it work for the mac or not?

Posted by: signal15

In theory, moto4lin should compile on OSX. Install darwinports and do a:
port install qt3
port install libusb

Then cd into the moto4lin directory and do:
qmake
make

I'm compiling qt now, I'll let you know what I find. The wiki for moto4lin mentions that you need ACM support in your kernel over USB, and I'm not sure if OSX has that. We'll see.

Posted by: signal15

Also, I am compiling qt3-mac to avoid having to start X11. I'm not sure if this will work, but we'll see.

I did some poking around and the developer tools come with a USB CDC Modem driver, which I belive is ACM. If I can't get it working with the above instructions, I will try loading that module. I don't know what devices it creates, but it appears moto4lin uses /dev/ttyACM0 for communication. I may have to mod the source for moto4lin to get this working.

If others have time, don't wait for me. I've got things going on today and might not have time to mess with it much longer. If I do get it working, I'll compile it and put up a tarball w/ the modified source and an included binary. You may still have to compile the CDC Modem driver yourself (if I find out it is needed) as I don't think I can legally redistribute that.

If someone sends me a G5 I can probably get this compiled much faster.

Posted by: dudebrah

definitely let us know - i am VERY interested in this .. would make my life easier (in ways)...

Posted by: maxskibinski

man, i started downloading like a fiend when i read that moto4lin post. then i actually started trying to get the crap to start up.......

how do i run linux progs on my G4? i'm running 10.2.8

what do i need?

Posted by: signal15

http://moto4lin.sourceforge.net/wiki/Mac_OS_X

Posted by: CyberGreg

Okay, I too am a 'nix n00b.

A friend compiled the app for me, click here

After a lot of messing around I was able to get it to work on my RAZR and my ROKR.

Only for file copying, I haven't tried any seem editing, yet.
:-)

Posted by: maxskibinski

thank you so much, greg. up and running. now to find documentation on how to use it.

Posted by: maxskibinski

okay. so i hooked everything up, tossed my moto into bootloader, and set it to p2k mode. i hit the connect button, and get this:

Try to connect
[info] Phone connected as P2K
[error] Unable to get phone model
[error] Unable to get drive name
[error] Unable to get file count
[error] Unable to get drive name

it says its connected, but i can't do anything with it. what am i missing?
opened up prefs and putzed around in there to no avail.

any help would be much appreciated

Posted by: CyberGreg

Quote:

Originally Posted by maxskibinski

okay. so i hooked everything up, tossed my moto into bootloader, and set it to p2k mode. i hit the connect button, and get this:

Try to connect
[info] Phone connected as P2K
[error] Unable to get phone model
[error] Unable to get drive name
[error] Unable to get file count
[error] Unable to get drive name

it says its connected, but i can't do anything with it. what am i missing?
opened up prefs and putzed around in there to no avail.

any help would be much appreciated

Ah.. been there done that ;-)

Okay, this is from memory....

1. Plug in your phone
2. Open terminal and type the following:
ls -la /dev
3. Now scroll up and look for something like cu.usbmodemxxxx
Note: it is easier to follow the instructions on the wiki site but after I got used to knowing what I was looking for I just used the ls command after I plugged the phone in. Sorry....
Mine was cu.usbmodem1B11
5. Now open up Moto4lin and open up preferences
6. In the top line (ACM device) change the entry to match up for your phone, mine is /dev/cu.usbmodem1B11 for my RAZR and /dev/cu.usbmodem5B141 for my ROKR
7. Click the Update list button to display all your USB devices
Note: Here's what I found to be the tricky part
8. The first time you click the button, find your phone and click set as AT Device. Click ok to close the prefs window.
9. Click the Connect/Disconnect button and it should start to connect and then fail
10. Open up the preferences again and click the update list button and you will now see a different number for your phone. Click the set as P2k Device button.
Mine was 4902 for AT and 4901 for P2k, odd but it works.

Let me know if this helps.

BTW I was able to edit some seems on my ROKR last night so I would expect the same to be true for the RAZR.

WFC!!!

Posted by: dudebrah

So ... the big question is - can we flash/flex/mod seems with this program?

Posted by: CyberGreg

Quote:

Originally Posted by dudebrah

So ... the big question is - can we flash/flex/mod seems with this program?

From what I can tell:
Flash - no
Flex - no
Mod Seems - YES

:-)

Posted by: Cool6324

OMFG, i am screaming as of now. This is a milestone is mac history. I CANNOT BELIEVE IT. I will never ever leave mac!!!!!! ROCK ON. Time to get the cable.

Posted by: dudebrah

hrm .. i need to flash/flex my V3 (came with the crappy Rogers files) .. but maybe i can get away with just editing the Seem files on it to enable WebSessions/Video Recording?

Cool6324: Your signature makes me hate Canadian cell phone carriers ...

Posted by: maxskibinski

finally works. your instructions simple enough even for me. wOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Cool6324

Lets keep this thread going, for all the mac users out there. I just ordered my cable express so it should be here tomorrow.

Posted by: dudebrah

so what exactly does editing SEEMs do versus flexing and flashing? any good FAQs that cover this topic?

Posted by: Cool6324

http://xlr8.us/hofo/ That pretty much explains everything about it.

Posted by: dudebrah

meh .. kind of ... it more so explains what editing seem files CAN do, not what Flexing/Flashing does or does not... but thanks!

Posted by: CyberGreg

Quote:

Originally Posted by dudebrah

meh .. kind of ... it more so explains what editing seem files CAN do, not what Flexing/Flashing does or does not... but thanks!

Well I would say that flexing/flashing is the summation of a lot of seem edits, menu edits, and extras along with with (usually) an updated version of the flex or software.

Here's an example, to enable video recording on my fairly new black Razr I could:
1. Perform the seem edits (2 if I remember correctly) and upload two menu files.
==OR==
2. Flash/flex my phone with the ICEMAN_MOTOX file and have an updated software version and updated Cingular flex (and video recording enabled).

Also from what I've read you can never actually break your phone with a seem edit while the same can not be said about flex/flashing. I've read way too many "Help - flashed my phone and now its dead" posts!
:-)

Posted by: dudebrah

fair enough ... my phone is unlocked (and on Fido in Canada) so using a Cingular flex would probably not be the best idea .. but yeah, im going to mess around with SEEM edits to get what i want going on my V3 RAZR (like multi-letter phonebook searches, video recording, outer-lcd text changes...)

is there a website that catalogues all the various SEEM edits for the V3 RAZR? (just trying to keep this thread alive ;-))

Posted by: CyberGreg

Link
Link 2

There's another one too, I'll post that in a bit.

Posted by: mike772

This is very exciting! Has anyone done seem editing on a v635 with this program? I got it up and running but my USB cable won't be in for a few days.

Posted by: dudebrah

I wasn't able to connect using moto4lin as per the instructions above .. I didn't get a different # for AT and P2K (they were both 4902) .. Any ideas?

Posted by: dudebrah

Try to connect
[info] AT phone found
[info] Switching device /dev/usb/acm/cu.usbmodem3B11 to P2K mode...
[error] Unable to open device
[error] Check preferences
[error] Unable to connect

Posted by: CyberGreg

Hopefully this will help
Screen shot

Instructions:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moto4lin page

USB ID

It is possible to look on the page for the corresponding model, or to determine by hand. To do this:

1. Click 'Update List'
2. Find and select your telephone.
3. Click 'Set As AT Device'
4. Click 'Switch To P2K'
5. Repeat steps 1 and 2
6. Click 'Set As P2K Device'

* The P2K device is usually 1 less than the AT device.

Posted by: dudebrah

Hey - I finally got it working (I had to manually change the AT to minus 1 the PK setting). Sorry for the knee jerk reaction... BUT NOW, when I try to connect the phone, it will connect but I get the following errors:

[info] Phone connected as P2K
[error] Unable to get phone model
[error] Unable to get drive name
[error] Unable to get file count
[error] Unable to get drive name

Any ideas?

Posted by: dudebrah

And now I get this!

[info] Phone pluged as P2K
Try to connect
[info] Phone connected as P2K
[error] Phone is busy. Please try later
Getting file list
[info] Found drives: [ ]
[info] Search request: [/|*]
[debug] Unable to execute search request
Complete

So weird!

Posted by: CyberGreg

Quote:

Originally Posted by dudebrah

Try to connect
[info] AT phone found
[info] Switching device /dev/usb/acm/cu.usbmodem3B11 to P2K mode...
[error] Unable to open device
[error] Check preferences
[error] Unable to connect

Got it I hope.....

Change your device to:
/dev/cu.usbmodem3B11

Posted by: dudebrah

**** in A dude

Posted by: CyberGreg

Quote:

Originally Posted by dudebrah

**** in A dude

I take it that it worked!

Posted by: dudebrah

whats a good HEX editor (similar to the XVI32 editor people use on PC) for mac?

Posted by: CyberGreg

Quote:

Originally Posted by dudebrah

whats a good HEX editor (similar to the XVI32 editor people use on PC) for mac?

I have not used one but for editing seems, its built into moto4lin.

Anyhow, check here , there's like 4 of them listed.

Posted by: dudebrah

if there are instructions in SEEM editing that state "
Offset "6E" check bit "2" and bit "3".
Offset "6F" check bit "7" (video quality menu selection). "

Should I be unchecking any other bits that are checked off already?

Posted by: dudebrah

and I know I saw this somewhere but does anyone have the SEEM edits for enabling WebSessions?

Thanks!

Posted by: CyberGreg

Quote:

Originally Posted by dudebrah

if there are instructions in SEEM editing that state "
Offset "6E" check bit "2" and bit "3".
Offset "6F" check bit "7" (video quality menu selection). "

Should I be unchecking any other bits that are checked off already?

NO make only the changes specified in the seem edit.
:-)

Edit: and always, always, always save copies of your seem files before you edit them

Posted by: Nehemi

I have big trouble!
I tryed to use this instructions " http://moto4lin.sourceforge.net/wiki/Mac_OS_X " after giving the comannd "make" in the terminal i get the answer "-bash: make: command not found"
some one can help me please

Nehemi

Posted by: CyberGreg

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nehemi

I have big trouble!
I tryed to use this instructions " http://moto4lin.sourceforge.net/wiki/Mac_OS_X " after giving the comannd "make" in the terminal i get the answer "-bash: make: command not found"
some one can help me please

Nehemi

I'm not sure about your problem, sounds like you're not in the right directory.

Why not download the compiled edition from this post

Posted by: Nehemi

i've solved the problem
you need to have xcode tools to give the "make" command
thats all
but how do you use the program in the Link you have posted it looks like a win program to me

Posted by: maxskibinski

i don't know if this would interest anyone else, but i just got my e398 and plugged it into the G4. transflash was recognised as a storage device, and i was able to up/d load music and pictures. tossed a game on too, gonna check to see if that worked, too.

this is hot sh**

Posted by: CyberGreg

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nehemi

i've solved the problem
you need to have xcode tools to give the "make" command
thats all
but how do you use the program in the Link you have posted it looks like a win program to me

Once you unzip it you'll see its a dmg (disk image) file. Just double-click it and it will mount on your desktop.

?? You've done this sort of stuff before (installing apps, etc), right?

Posted by: Nehemi

So, hat sich bei mir erledigt das program läuft und die verbindung zwischen meinem v3 und dem iBook steht.

Nächstes Problem mp3 bekomme ich problem los aufs v3 aber Java programme nicht (.jar und .jad Files), weis jemand wie das geht?

danke im voraus!

Posted by: maxskibinski

Nur englische Pfosten!

English posts only!

lesen Sie die Richtlinien!

Read the rules!

http://translate.google.com/translate_t

Posted by: maxskibinski

Btw, no dice on the drop loading java. oh well.

Now, for some reason, Moto4lin flakes out on me since i tried connecting my e398. i just get the pinwheel and it sits in limbo, even if nothing is connected. took out the tflash, dunno whats up

Posted by: maxskibinski

scratch that, up again. How do i use this to add games? do i just need the jad, the jar, what's up? and what's that .pat?

Posted by: CyberGreg

Quote:

Originally Posted by maxskibinski

scratch that, up again. How do i use this to add games? do i just need the jad, the jar, what's up? and what's that .pat?

I just use bluetooth to install games, never used Moto4lin.

Edit - just send the jar file

Posted by: maxskibinski

i get an "application expired" error. i've searched all over, but everything talks about midway, etc. didn't wanna have to do this yet, but time to get a dongle.

Posted by: Nehemi

Quote:

Originally Posted by maxskibinski

i get an "application expired" error. i've searched all over, but everything talks about midway, etc. didn't wanna have to do this yet, but time to get a dongle.

It might be sufficient if you just upload an empty .pat file with the same name as the .jar and the .jad to /a/mobile/kjava/

( e.g. j2me5.jar, j2me5.jad, j2me5.pat )

The "Set .pat file" command in KJAVA doesn't work !

After that of course you need to reboot.

In my case that worked for the program "compass", but not for "customizer".

Posted by: maxskibinski

i'll just let the cable thing go. if i get a bluetooth dongle, will i need a jar AND jad file, or just the jar?

Posted by: CyberGreg

Just the jar file for BT

Posted by: maxskibinski

and now that i picked up a dongle today, i try to pair, try "browse device," and get "failed to get folder contents, unknown error." it won't connect to isync either. this is bumming me out.

when i set up the device (repeatedly,) it only gives me the modem option, not isync or address. any help is much appreciated.

I used the update firmware option too, btw

Posted by: CyberGreg

Well this post should help with the iSync problem and maybe even with the browse problem.

I398 & iSync

Hope it helps...

BTW What BT dongle did you buy? With my Mini I had problems trying to use a DLink one but then tried an Iogear and it seems to work better. This was with a keyboard and mouse, not a phone.

Posted by: maxskibinski

i did a little bit of research on that dlink sitch. i bought that one, too. it needed a firmware update to pair w/ keyboard and mouse. i'm running 10.2.8, which is probably the issue. i seem to be dumping a hell of a lot of time and money into this phone. at least i can get a student discount on the upgrade. :grumble:

Posted by: maxskibinski

unbelievable. after i used that firmware update on the dongle, the BT progs don't even recognize it anymore. "No bluetooth hardware connected" or something like that. it shows up in system profiler but that's it. emoticons cannot express the utter frustration i'm feeling right now. drag/drop onto the tflash seems to create 2 files for mp3s instead of one, maybe a DRM with itunes thing, so then tflash gets corrupted.

So the real question is: what should i throw out the window?

a. Moto
b. Mac
c. Dongle

Posted by: CyberGreg

I always tell people the answer is "C", you've once again proven me right

When you can, try a different brand of BT dongle.

Posted by: Winston7

Just a note to thank everyone for including Mac in the discussion! I was able to install the Moto4lin program with no problem thanks to CyberGreg and his friend who compiled and posted. Many thanks! I have not tried to do anything with it yet (my cable is not here since I left it attached to the PC at my office where I used to do all my modding). With the help of all you guys and the excellent Mac thread info you have posted I have high hopes of getting this to work. Thanks again!

Posted by: maxskibinski

Winston is right, mad props to you, cybergreg.

Posted by: CyberGreg

Thnaks guys, just trying to help and I'd be nowhere if it wasn't for Jason's help in compiling it for me.

Posted by: Winston7

Got to my office and followed the instructions here to get the Moto4lin software connected to the phone. Is it as impressive as manned space flight? Is it as gorgeous as Uma Thurman? Am I happy or what?! Fantastic job everybody, this is so amazing I am blown away! A million thanks to Cyber and Jason for all the hard work and consideration.

Posted by: maxskibinski

so adding skins isn't possible with moto4lin, am i correct? Just minor tweaks to pre existing seems?

Posted by: Cool6324

Quote:

Originally Posted by maxskibinski

so adding skins isn't possible with moto4lin, am i correct? Just minor tweaks to pre existing seems?

Skins are possible to add, I have a few on my v551.

Posted by: CyberGreg

Quote:

Originally Posted by maxskibinski

so adding skins isn't possible with moto4lin, am i correct? Just minor tweaks to pre existing seems?

Full file management, create and delete folders so yes adding skins is no problem.

All we're really laking now is some type of flash / backup utility like FlashBackup from Random.

Posted by: britze

Does anyone know if this tool works with a V980.

I can connect my phone, but thats all.

File manager, seem editor and kjava don't work.

Strange, isn't it?

Posted by: maxskibinski

not really strange, try reading the steps earlier in the thread. (p.2)

Posted by: Moto_VJ

i've gotten the phone to connect to moto4lin and everything seems to be fine. however i'm having trouble in how to find a particular offset in seem 004a-001. do any of you guys know how to find this in moto4lin? thanks 4 your help!!

on a seperate note: w00t w00t first post

Posted by: CyberGreg

Seem editing... if you are looking for Offset 32, go to row 003 and then over to column _2. If you are looking Offset 4D, go to row 004 and then over to column _d. If you are looking for Offset 70, go to row 007 and the over to the first column _0.

Posted by: Cool6324

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberGreg

Full file management, create and delete folders so yes adding skins is no problem.

All we're really laking now is some type of flash / backup utility like FlashBackup from Random.

Do you see one coming?

Posted by: maxskibinski

i am NEVER willing to do this, usually, but it's worth it to me: i'll transfer 50 USD to the person who makes the program. with all the other mac users out there who have motos, i'm sure they could make a bit more than that. it wouldn't even have to be a mac program, would it? a linux port would probably suffice.

Someone has the know how to do this. get on your duff and start hacking.

Posted by: cactus friend

I just wanted to applaud the people who helped me do something with my mac and phone that I never thought I'd be able to do without hopping onto a PC and *gasp* using windows.

Thanks again!

Posted by: EliteWarDriver

hmm..ok so i got the program and i tried to launch it but it does not run? it does that zoom in thing that icons do when launched yet it does not appear in the dock.

Posted by: EliteWarDriver

Ok i got the software running but the phone wont connect, i tried to follow Greg's instructions on doing that stuff interminal but my phone is not in that list of things.

Posted by: EliteWarDriver

[info] Phone pluged as P2K
[info] Phone connected as P2K
[error] Phone is busy. Please try later

?!?!

Posted by: EliteWarDriver

ok sorry about all the posting but it got it myself and yeah...needless to say this ****ing owns

Posted by: cactus friend

I just wish that moto4lin had a text column in the hex editor, like every other hex editor I have ever used...I had to export the seem file to HexEdit to be able to do that!

Whatever, I'm just glad it works!

If anyone cares, here's the startup/shutdown animations I made for my phone:

custwakeup.gif

My shut down animation is scary, and contains a curse, so I am not sure if I would get in trouble for posting it, so nevermind for now!

Posted by: CyberGreg

Okay... I haven't shown these to anyone... they're for an E398 MP I'm working on..... hopefully fellow Mac users will recognize the meaning.

Feel free to sample/critique....

Wakeup GIF

Goodbye GIF

Edit - they go way too fast on a web page but are almost too slow on the phone.

Posted by: EliteWarDriver

Greg those GIF's look nice, lookin forward to seeing the finished product. Hey BTW did you say you got iTunes skin's on your ROKR? Cuz i had posted earlier seeing if their was anything i could do to my ROKR but their wasnt much of a response.

Posted by: EliteWarDriver

Quick question, has anyone tried to put skins on yet? I made the folder and it shows up on the phone but it doesnt show up on the program for me to put any files in after i've created the folder.

Posted by: CyberGreg

Just a couple of pointers, the folder has to be named exactly the same as the .ski file. You also have to restart the phone to get it to update the listing of skins.

I have created and uploaded new skin folders and it worked fine.

Edit - thanks and what I mean by "iTunes" skins is that they have been tweaked so that they look good while you have iTunes in hide mode. Mostly it's just a cosmetic change of the soft button text (leaft and right instead of being centered) and rearranging the placment. I've aslo had to rebuild a couple to get the menu and home keys working properly.

Edit2: I see you have Cingular, did you get your ROKR from them? If so can you make some copies of your kjava folders? I got mine as an unlocked one and it has a 50 song limit. I'm trying to get the hacks for the E398 to work on my ROKR (for the 100 songs).

Posted by: EliteWarDriver

Well i did that, i named the folder and then rebooted the phone and reconnected but it still did not show up in the list, cuz i cant even put the .ski file in until i create the folder, and i need the folder to appear first!

Edit: Sure ill make backup's of the kjava folders on all 3 drives.

Posted by: CyberGreg

Oh okay... you need to click the refresh / reload button BEFORE you restart. Once you restart the folder goes away 'cause its empty.

Sorry I don't have the program here at work. In about 2 hours I can post (hopefully) better information.

Posted by: EliteWarDriver

im still having problems getting it to show, maybe im not doing it right? you click the skins folder then type in the name of the ski and click create right?

Posted by: CyberGreg

Dang sorry... even the Wiki site is messed up. I can't look at any screenshots. I can't remember the exact procedure. Hopefully someone can help before I leave work.

Edit: Okay having the software running, once you create your new folder, click the Update List button. Then copy all your .dat and the .ski file. Restart and you should be good to go.

Posted by: EliteWarDriver

well that's what im sayin, i make the folder with the create option under the skins directory and even when i click update list its not under the /c/skins/ directory. Any idea's on why its not showing up there, but when i reboot my phone it shows up under the skins list there?

Posted by: CyberGreg

Okay, now that is indeed very weird. I'm really clueless. What skins are you trying to upload?

Posted by: EliteWarDriver

k here's exactly waht im doing.

-Im opening the program and connecting the phone
-Refreshing the list and then going to the C drive and clicking the 'Skins' folder
-In the lil box in the bottom left where it shows the file directory im going and putting "c\skins\iMOTOab" (which is the skin name)
-Then i click the create button
-I click update list
-then navigate back to the c\skins directory only to find no "iMOTOab" folder

Yet if i reboot my phone and goto "personalize>skins" their is a skin there listen iMOTOab....it has no custom ski in it so it goes to moto by default but i cant for the life of me understand why the folder shows up on the phone yet not on the program...i haven't yet tried to do this on my PC if it recognizes the folder. Perhaps ill do that tomorrow when i have more time. But this baffles me.

Posted by: CyberGreg

Okay - Here's what I did on my ROKR...

Got the phone connected and then browsed to /c/mobile/skins
I entered /MotoMac (so the complete entry was /c/mobile/skins/MotoMac)
Clicked the Create button, status below said
Creating directory /c/mobile/skins/MotoMac
Complete
Next I clicked the Upload button and selected all my skin files for MotoMac
Once complete, I clicked the update list button and all was well.

Sorry... you weren't crazy, its a bit of a process.

Hope this helps

Posted by: empirikal

Will this moto4lin(mac) work with a nextel i870 - also can I add my own ringtones?

Posted by: empirikal

I'm guessing it doesn't

Posted by: CyberGreg

Quote:

Originally Posted by empirikal

Will this moto4lin(mac) work with a nextel i870 - also can I add my own ringtones?

I don't think any iDEN (Nextel) phone work with any of the p2k software but I could be mistaken. I've never actually tried.

I use Nextel at work and have a phonebook manager (PC only) where I dump our compnay phone list onto new phones (sim card). There's a bunch of PC software you can download from the iDEN Motorola site.

Posted by: empirikal

Yeah - the problem I'm having with the iDen software is that its not compatiable with Windows XP Media Center Edition -

I'm currently trying to run webjal through virtual PC on my PC with a different version of winxp (non mce)

Thanks for the info.

Posted by: airbeat

Hey everyone! I know that I'm going to sound like a n00b here, but I'm trying to get moto4lin up an running on OS X with a Motorola ROKR. Just got the phone and the handset is too quiet for me (years in an aircraft plant killed my ears).

I've already learned a ton from this thread, and have researched the net for the past 5 hours, but still can't figure out what I'm doing wrong. I've installed moto4lin and have it up and running, and I've installed libusb and Dev tools.

In the directions you all have posted, I should be looking for something in the Terminal similar to cu.usbmodemXXXX, but all I can find is /dev/cu.modem. I'm not sure if that's the problem, though.

It seems to connect as an AT device under ID #4903, but when I hit the "Switch to P2K" button, it seems to hang. No errors or anything, but hitting the "Update list" button still shows the phone at ID #4903. I've tried to connect with 4903 for AT and both 4903 and 4902 for the P2K #, but still not having any luck. When I hit the Connect button I get:
[info] AT phone found
[info] Switching device /dev/cu.modem to P2K mode...

Then a long pause... and then:
[error] Unable to connect

Any thoughts? I've run out of ideas and patience, and I registered here with the hopes of getting this phone to be a little bit louder. You'll have my eternal gratitude!

Thanks!
Aaron

Posted by: maxskibinski

i was stuck in the same boat after i had switched phones

1. you MUST have the cu.usbmodemXXXX
it was near the top of the information that comes up in terminal. it changes depending on the USB port and the phone you're using from what i can tell, from 3b13, 1b30, whatever. the 4903 part is good, it's AT recognized; leave that alone. the scoend one (P2K) could be 4900, 4901, 4902, 4903, somewhere around there. restart moto4lin after you change each preference to test p2k.

keep us posted

Posted by: airbeat

here's how my terminal looks:

Welcome to Darwin!
user-12l265b:~ airbeat$ ls -la /dev
total 8
dr-xr-xr-x 3 root wheel 3672 Nov 26 15:12 .
drwxr-xr-x 35 root wheel 1292 Nov 26 15:28 ..
crw------- 1 root wheel 23, 0 Nov 26 21:12 bpf0
crw------- 1 root wheel 23, 1 Nov 26 15:12 bpf1
crw------- 1 root wheel 23, 2 Nov 26 15:12 bpf2
crw------- 1 root wheel 23, 3 Nov 26 15:12 bpf3
crw------- 1 airbeat airbeat 0, 0 Nov 26 22:28 console
crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 9, 1 Nov 26 16:01 cu.modem
brw-r----- 1 root operator 14, 0 Nov 26 15:12 disk0
br--r----- 1 root operator 14, 1 Nov 26 15:12 disk0s1
brw-r----- 1 root operator 14, 2 Nov 26 15:12 disk0s3
crw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 7, 0 Nov 26 15:12 fsevents
crw------- 1 root wheel 6, 0 Nov 26 15:12 klog
crw-r----- 1 root kmem 3, 1 Nov 26 15:12 kmem
crw-r----- 1 root kmem 3, 0 Nov 26 15:12 mem
crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 3, 2 Nov 26 17:01 null
crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 5, 0 Nov 26 22:28 ptyp0

I am putting the phone in bootloader mode (* and # while powering up), plugging it in using the included USB cable, then using the command above in terminal. Is there a step that I have missed somewhere? OR should I be in a different area of the terminal-- a specific path perhaps?

Thanks a million!

--A

Posted by: airbeat

Actually, I've just discovered that the cu.modem string is always there. Here is the results of the before and after plugging the phone in:
user-12l265b:/ airbeat$ ls -la /dev > temp
user-12l265b:/ airbeat$ ls -la /dev > temp2
user-12l265b:/ airbeat$ diff temp temp2
3c3
< drwxrwxr-x 34 airbeat wheel 1258 Nov 26 23:25 ..
---
> drwxrwxr-x 35 airbeat wheel 1292 Nov 26 23:25 ..

What gives?

-A

Posted by: CyberGreg

You're problem is the phone is in boot loader mode. Moto4lin can't see it. Just start up you phone normally, make sure your USB setting is Data/Fax Modem and connect the USB cable.

Posted by: maxskibinski

Huzzah! cyberGreg yet again saves the day. BTW, do you have any ideas on that skins problem i was having? or any recomendations for easy skins that definately work?

Posted by: airbeat

CyberGreg--you are a cellphone God! Thanks a gabillion! I've now got the phone recognized in moto4lin, and now I get to play with it. Yay! No sleep tonight! :-)

Posted by: airbeat

And NOW I've adjusted the volume like I wanted too. Yay! what else can I mess with! This is great! :-) (Can you tell this is the first time I've ever "messed" with a cellphone's guts?)

Thanks again!

Posted by: CyberGreg

Quote:

Originally Posted by maxskibinski

Huzzah! cyberGreg yet again saves the day. BTW, do you have any ideas on that skins problem i was having? or any recomendations for easy skins that definately work?

Um I don't know... what was going on with your skins?

Posted by: maxskibinski

i've tried installing three different skins, all show up as moto when i select them. Will the new skins (sybian blue, etc.) work for the v398?

i don't know if anyone else has these problems, but here goes:

1. any file i create, burning mp3s in itunes or making wallpapers in photoshop, creates a second file on my TF card with no info EX:

such great heights
_such great heights

2. when i use USB to link phone to mac, and try to eject, disk shows up again a couple seconds later.

any ideas? thanks

Posted by: CyberGreg

Quote:

Originally Posted by maxskibinski

i've tried installing three different skins, all show up as moto when i select them. Will the new skins (sybian blue, etc.) work for the v398?

I use the new Skinner4Moto (PC version) and updated a bunch of skins for both my E398 and my ROKR. I've been tweaking them to look good while iTunes runs in hide mode. I'll create one big archive file and post so you can try some of the skins I'm using.

Quote:

Originally Posted by maxskibinski

i don't know if anyone else has these problems, but here goes:

1. any file i create, burning mp3s in itunes or making wallpapers in photoshop, creates a second file on my TF card with no info EX:

such great heights
_such great heights

2. when i use USB to link phone to mac, and try to eject, disk shows up again a couple seconds later.

any ideas? thanks

yup...
1. Extra file is from Mac OS X, contains extra information such as custom icon and stuff. You don't see it on your Mac because Finder will not display any file/folder that starts with either a "_" or "."

2. I'm not sure... is this when you are syncing with iTunes? If so, then you need to use iTunes to eject the phone and then the TFlash will stay unmounted.

(From memory) Here's the skins I have formatted for E398/ROKR:
3x4 menu
Moto
iTunes
iTigerWB
MotoMac
WinXP
WinVista
Neon
MModders
Tux

3x3 menu
Moto-Symbian Red
Moto-Symbian Blue
Xbox

1x1 menu
Motoskins

Posted by: steveo_pacman

I was just looking through this thread and tried all the steps listed but im getting this message.
[info] Phone connected as P2K
[error] Unable to get phone model
[error] Unable to get drive name
[error] Unable to get file count
[error] Unable to get drive name

I have tried editing the prefs to what you guys listed with no success. I'm using a v551 from Rogers if that makes any difference on OSX 10.3. Any help is appreciated. Thanks!

Posted by: evo_lution

Just to say a BIG thanks to all for this thread, finally got those crappy pics off my V3.

Special thanks go to CyberGreg.

Posted by: evo_lution

Managed to delete the stock photos an freed up some space, but as to the next step flashing/flexing?
Need someone with experience on the Mac+Moto4Lin to help me out

Posted by: evo_lution

Is there no-one?

Posted by: julie_profumo

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberGreg

Okay, I too am a 'nix n00b.

A friend compiled the app for me, click here

After a lot of messing around I was able to get it to work on my RAZR and my ROKR.

Only for file copying, I haven't tried any seem editing, yet.
:-)

i downloaded the compiled app how do i get it to run? clicking on it doesnt seem to work. when i drag and drop the icon into terminal it says that its a directory

Posted by: GeckoAlpha

Quote:

Originally Posted by EliteWarDriver

hmm..ok so i got the program and i tried to launch it but it does not run? it does that zoom in thing that icons do when launched yet it does not appear in the dock.

It's doing the same zoom in thing when I try to launch the program. Is it because I'm running 10.4.3? Or is there something I'm missing?

WTF...

Posted by: nomsquid

The zoom thing is moto4lin terminating because it can't find the Qt3 library. To see the exact error message, go to Applications/Utilities and open Console right after trying to run moto4lin. I'll bet you see something like this:

Code:


dyld: /Volumes/moto4lin/moto4lin.app/Contents/MacOS/moto4lin can't open
library: libqt-mt.3.dylib  (No such file or directory, errno = 2)

You need to install Qt3, which you can do via the handy webloc link in the moto4lin dmg. Click on it, it'll download the installer package with Safari...go through the install, and try running moto4lin again. Here's a one-liner to find your particular phone's usb modem device:

Code:


iBook:~ nomsquid$ ls -la /dev |grep usbmodem
crw-rw-rw-   1 root      wheel       8,  19 12 Dec 03:58 cu.usbmodem1B11
crw-rw-rw-   1 root      wheel       8,  18 12 Dec 03:58 tty.usbmodem1B11

I just successfully connected to my v551 and downloaded some pictures and ringtones. For a data point, I'm using a Nextel cable (pn. NNTN4007B), my v551 shows up in /dev as /dev/cu.usbmodem1B11, and everything seems to work A-OK! Haven't tried editing any seems yet, I'm happy enough with the download/upload features at the moment.

Posted by: maxskibinski

A PC is necessary to flash/flex until someone makes a mac program. Any takers? i got 5 on it

This program drives me nuts. everytime i go back to use it, it stops working on me and i have to putz around till it works again.

never thought i'd say this, but i can't wait for my wintel

Posted by: julie_profumo

so far so good. however when i try to upload a skin i keep getting unable to create directory?
i am able to upload and download files just fine though as well as edit SEEMs

screen shows i am connected in p2k mode

thanks

Posted by: GeckoAlpha

Quote:

Originally Posted by nomsquid

The zoom thing is moto4lin terminating because it can't find the Qt3 library. To see the exact error message, go to Applications/Utilities and open Console right after trying to run moto4lin. I'll bet you see something like this:

Code:


dyld: /Volumes/moto4lin/moto4lin.app/Contents/MacOS/moto4lin can't open
library: libqt-mt.3.dylib  (No such file or directory, errno = 2)

Code:


iBook:~ nomsquid$ ls -la /dev |grep usbmodem
crw-rw-rw-   1 root      wheel       8,  19 12 Dec 03:58 cu.usbmodem1B11
crw-rw-rw-   1 root      wheel       8,  18 12 Dec 03:58 tty.usbmodem1B11

Thanks!

I thought I was missing something.

This moto4lin program looks very similar to p2kman.

Can you just edit seems on the phone? Or can you download them just like in p2kman and then edit them?

Posted by: maxskibinski

Quote:

Originally Posted by julie_profumo

so far so good. however when i try to upload a skin i keep getting unable to create directory?
i am able to upload and download files just fine though as well as edit SEEMs

screen shows i am connected in p2k mode

thanks

delete the directory. you've already made it. when you make the directory, you can't see it till you put something into it. follow the instructions for making it, and start putting the files in immediately. upload button.

Posted by: emceebeezly

I'm not really trying to reply. . .
I own a moto razr and I tried to load a custom opening .gif
Somehow I messed up my phone it wont come on, well it will come on but crashed and blinks.
but it will charge while off, is there anything I can do.
I heard about a cable I'd need but don't know where to find it
please help

Posted by: emceebeezly

never mind I was under th 31 day warranty, so I got a new phone to crash!!!!

Posted by: evo_lution

Succesfully edited some seems using the XV132+VPC combo had to upload using Moto4lin, bit of a convoluted process-but it works.
XV132 is a sweet app.....even for a noob like me

Now have custom outer LCD text

Posted by: nomsquid

I use HexEditor...it's a nice MacOS X hex editor that doesn't require using VPC and a Windows app.

http://www.ex-cinder.com/hexeditor.html

Posted by: evo_lution

Quote:

Originally Posted by nomsquid

I use HexEditor...it's a nice MacOS X hex editor that doesn't require using VPC and a Windows app.

http://www.ex-cinder.com/hexeditor.html

Thanks nomsquid

Posted by: evo_lution

Now how about flashing/flexing apps?

Posted by: nomsquid

Quote:

Originally Posted by evo_lution

Now how about flashing/flexing apps?

I think you're still tied to Windows on that front, as PST is a Windows app. Don't know if it'll behave under VPC or not...I'm still trying to get it to cooperate under XP on PC hardware. Something related to P2K drivers or the like...bleh. Would be so much simpler if they just made their tools run on a Unixy platform like OS X or Linux

Posted by: evo_lution

Quote:

Originally Posted by nomsquid

Hi nomsquid,
Been trying for 2 days now fiddling with VPC7+P2K software - same here driver troubles i think, bl**dy frustrating

Posted by: ReMixer

I thought I saw a link in this thread for ringtones. In particular verbal tones like "you have an incoming call". I read every post and did a search to no avail all help is appreciated.

As a side question would people be interested in purchasing a series of professionally recorded verbal ringtones by a woman both montone:ie phone operator type and sexy voice for $8 or 9 US

Posted by: CyberGreg

@ReMixer

Grab the talking ringtones from this web site

As far as "paying" for a ringtone (or anything for my Moto's) all I can say is I'd never do it. Way too much free stuff on the 'net and I can make all the talking ringtones I need.

Merry X-Mas!

Posted by: maxskibinski

cybergreg, are the .hs files in skins for flashing? can we only add skins that just have .dat and .ski extensions with moto4lin?

Posted by: CyberGreg

Quote:

Originally Posted by maxskibinski

cybergreg, are the .hs files in skins for flashing? can we only add skins that just have .dat and .ski extensions with moto4lin?

Yes sir... all you want in your skin folder is .dat file(s), one .ski file and possibly a .jpg.

I've seen those files, they're old-skool for flashing a folder instead of using software to create the folder (lol, what was that like 6 months ago???? amazing how fast this stuff gets updated.)
Happy New Year!

Posted by: telecompare

Has anyone gotten Moto4lin (the Mac OS X version) to connect and control a V3c? I have come so close, but cannot get it to read the file system.

Setup:
/dev/cu.usbmodem1911
AT: 22b8/2a62
pk: 22b8/2a61

After config & update:
[info] Phone is unpluged. Please connect it
[info] Phone pluged as P2K
Getting file list
[info] Found drives: [ ]
[info] Search request: [/|*]
[debug] Unable to execute search request
Complete

Posted by: evo_lution

Reading the info over at Moto4lin, i don't think it works-sorry.

Posted by: radrew

Hmm, are there some drivers that I need to be able to use the USB cable with my Powerbook running 10.3.9?

When I run the ls -lv /dev I can't find the cu.etc phone in the list. Any ideas?

Posted by: telecompare

Quote:

Originally Posted by radrew

Hmm, are there some drivers that I need to be able to use the USB cable with my Powerbook running 10.3.9?

When I run the ls -lv /dev I can't find the cu.etc phone in the list. Any ideas?

I thought the drivers were loaded automatically, in fact, you should be able to unplug the phone, do a 'ls /dev > temp' in the terminal, then plug the phone back in and do a 'ls /dev > temp2' followed by a diff on temp and temp2 to reveal the driver(s). You may need to install usblib to get the drivers.

Are you using a V3 or V3c?

Posted by: bukowski3030

I'm having a problem with my phone disconnecting as soon as moto tries to connect.

[info] Phone is unpluged. Please connect it
[info] Phone pluged as P2K
Try to connect
[info] AT phone found
[info] Switching device /dev/cu.usbmodem1B11 to P2K mode...
[error] Unable to connect
[info] Phone is unpluged

When I got to /dev and plug my phone in I see /dev/cu.usbmodem1B11 and it seems to stick around until I run moto.

Any ideas?

Is the usb cable a "special" cable? I have a regular usb cable with the mini on one side. It works for BitPim, so I'm assuming it should work for moto4lin.

Any help appreciated,

bukowski

Posted by: scansterz

I'm having the same problem with my phone disconnecting as soon as moto tries to connect.
Any new thoughts on this?
I had it connect to my mac a few times. I actually loaded a skin. I did a reboot from Moto4lin and after that it did not want to connect.
I did notice that the /dev/cu.usbmodem1*11 does not stay in /dev after reading this post.
The mac recognizes it, then after Moto4lin tries, the mac dumps it.
I have all the libusb stuff loaded and I reloaded it as well.
I have also tried it on two different macs...same scenario.
Any help would be appreciated.
BTW: I hate windoze, but I can connect to the windo$e laptop just fine, the cable, the phone and creating skins and usb charging all works. I would just like to use my mac...since...ah... ya know... m$ sux

Thanks
-scansterz

Posted by: scansterz

Note and update:
I started guessing. I set all the prefs so that I know they would be connecting to the correct /dev/cu.* device.
All the numbers would be fine.
then when I noticed in the terminal that the /dev/ device was missing, I unplugged the phone from the usb cable, plugged it in again, and it showed up in the /dev/ list I when to moto4linosx and tried connecting. when I got the phone is busy i noticed that it said it was connected. It messed up a few time, i repeated that same thing...and it connects. It will not connect unless I un plug the phone and try it again...and perhaps again...
i transferred some files, it works for that.
Thanks. Hope that helps abit.
I think that it should connect and stay connected...the mac seems to get a signal form the phone that it is not there or something...
oh well.
s

Posted by: ixray

i totally messed up my razr..

i got the moto4lin connected to it, and changed some files on my phone. then restarted, and it now freezes on startup screen.
when i try to connect now, it say "AT Phone found", but switching to P2K mode is not possible..

is there ANY chance i might my phone get to working again?!
any help would be reeeeally appreciated.

Posted by: moto_natsy

i was redirected to this thread after my question. i seem to have installed motolin no probs, but my phone still wont connect, even after changing the names etc?? wtf??

Posted by: digitalic

will this work with the razr v3i?

Posted by: RYOBI

Quote:

Originally Posted by nomsquid

Code:


dyld: /Volumes/moto4lin/moto4lin.app/Contents/MacOS/moto4lin can't open
library: libqt-mt.3.dylib  (No such file or directory, errno = 2)

Code:


iBook:~ nomsquid$ ls -la /dev |grep usbmodem
crw-rw-rw-   1 root      wheel       8,  19 12 Dec 03:58 cu.usbmodem1B11
crw-rw-rw-   1 root      wheel       8,  18 12 Dec 03:58 tty.usbmodem1B11

Does anyone know where I can find Qt3 installer? The handy webloc link in the moto4lin dmg gives me a "The requested URL /~atg/QtMac334_Mini.zip was not found on this server."

I can't run Moto4lin without this. Anyone, please?

Posted by: RYOBI

Never mind, got it. Link for others that need it:
http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/...ni.zip?download

Posted by: cucu173

This is awesome! Im so happy i can do this. I was getting tired of breaking out the crap windows laptop and having to fight with xp to do anything.

Now if someone could make a flash/flex application the world would be complete.

Posted by: evo_lution

Quote:

Originally Posted by cucu173

Now if someone could make a flash/flex application the world would be complete.

This should be included in the next Moto4lin update

Posted by: maxskibinski

question for you folks.

i have to putz around with my pds to get itunes to work. are there mac programs i can use? TY

Posted by: knowram

So I am new here and have gone through everything here several times. Finally I was able to get my phone to connect kinda. I have a motorola v360. After having to modify the AT product id manually. moto4lin will connect to my phone but it gives me this error.

[error] Phone is busy. Please try later

Dose anyone have any ideas. Or has anyone been able to get this to work with a v360?

Posted by: knowram

that whole device is busy thing was an easy fix. unmount it. but now i am getting the same errors that it seems everyone else is getting.

[info] Phone connected as P2K
[error] Unable to get phone model
[error] Unable to get drive name
[error] Unable to get file count
[error] Unable to get drive name

The only problem is that it seems that it seems everyone has figured it out on there own and then not posted what they did. or at least i can't find where they did. can anyone help me out.

Posted by: Winston7

This is by no means a sophisticated or foolproof answer for the connection problem but my simple solution is to just keep trying to connect. The phone should be fully charged or it starts to take a charge from the computer and then is "busy" so it won't connect. I just keep at it, pulling out the cable, and plugging it back in, sometimes re-starting the phone. Mostly it connects on the first try but if it doesn't just keep at it and it will "take." This is a great program and it is wonderful to be able to edit and play with your phone from the Mac platform since 90% of mod programs are windows. Whomever is working on the ability to flash/flex with this should get the Nobel prize.

Posted by: RYOBI

Has anyone had any luck creating a new folder on the razr? I'm trying to upload a new skin, but first I need to create a new folder and I am not having any luck doing that.

Posted by: cucu173

You need to create the folder then change the destination to that folder you created. It wont show it the tree until you add some files to it. So make sure you have the destination set correctly.

Also, make sure you name the new folder the same as the skin files or it wont work right.

Good luck

Posted by: travtufts

I'm having trouble editing my T-Mobile branded PEBL to enable and display the WebSessions submenu (within WebAccess) using moto4lin and HexEdit on OSX4.5.

Here's a link to another thread with some graphics showing my situation. Any help for a poor Mac user way out of his element is greatly appreciated!

http://www.howardforums.com/showthr...615#post6916615

Thanks!

Posted by: CyberGreg

Quote:

Originally Posted by RYOBI

If you download the package from my link, I updated the dmg file and the Qt link now points back to my site. Here's the link

Posted by: RYOBI

Quote:

Originally Posted by cucu173

You need to create the folder then change the destination to that folder you created. It wont show it the tree until you add some files to it. So make sure you have the destination set correctly.

Also, make sure you name the new folder the same as the skin files or it wont work right.

Good luck

Got it. Thanks. I didn't know the folder won't show when viewing with moto4lin until you add the skin files. It does shows on the phone under skins without adding files though. That's how I ended up finding out the folder was actually there.

Posted by: travtufts

Anyone have some idea of how to activate the WebSessions submenu on a PEBL? I'm having trouble doing it with HexEdit and moto4lin.

I'm pretty sure I edited the seam correctly, and now it's just a question of editing hte mma_ucp file to make the menu display the option of WebSessions.

My issue (with graphics): http://www.howardforums.com/showthr...672#post6918672

Thanks!

Posted by: PowerMac84

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberGreg

If you download the package from my link, I updated the dmg file and the Qt link now points back to my site. Here's the link

Is this the latest version? Would you mind compiling a version form the latest cvs? Maybe some more phones are supported…

Posted by: vink

Any one knows how to increase the ring volume using moto4lin? I'm new to this modding of motos. Haven't seen anything from the threads. Appreciate any help. Thanks!

Posted by: knowram

I am trying to set this program up for my girlfriend now. She has a razr I don't know what version or even how to tell. I seem to be missing something. I thought when I was trying to get my V360 working I found a link to download usb drivers for the phone. But I can't seem to find that again. Was i dreaming? also I can't find where you change the usb mode either is the razr always in data mode? And do you have to have a special usb cable? I am trying to use a standard usb to mini usb cable.

The problem that I am having is that the cu.modem... is not showing up in the terminal. Tis is what I get.

crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 9, 7 Mar 22 01:27 cu.Bluetooth-Modem
crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 9, 5 Mar 22 01:27 cu.Bluetooth-PDA-Sync
crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 9, 3 Mar 22 01:27 cu.Virgo-Dial-upnetworking-1
crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 9, 1 Mar 22 01:27 cu.modem

any ideas?

Posted by: knowram

OKay after fooling around for some time I got it to work. now the problem is that I can't find anywhere to download skins from. Now that you can't get IE for mac you can't download them from motomodders.net.

any ideas?

Posted by: maxskibinski

thats absolutely not true. i use safari for MoMo all the time. you can also find them at vxxxstuff.com, gocellular.org, motox, and a slew of others. dig around.

Posted by: dragonhead08

I honestly tried doing a search and alot of the threads dint have answers to these questions. Anyone using this with the L7? I'm looking for seems to disable the operator logo and keep keypad backlight on. I see alot for the V3. I went through the L7 superthread but navigating over 100 pages didnt pan out.

I found this for the keypad but this dosnt translate to using the moto software:
http://www.howardforums.com/showthr...+backlight+seem

Also is there such a seem as to enable a shortcut for the keypad?

Posted by: yessongs

Can i raise the volume on my Cingular L7 with this?

Posted by: Big.Johnson

Quote:

Originally Posted by knowram

I am trying to set this program up for my girlfriend now. She has a razr I don't know what version or even how to tell. I seem to be missing something. I thought when I was trying to get my V360 working I found a link to download usb drivers for the phone. But I can't seem to find that again. Was i dreaming? also I can't find where you change the usb mode either is the razr always in data mode? And do you have to have a special usb cable? I am trying to use a standard usb to mini usb cable.

The problem that I am having is that the cu.modem... is not showing up in the terminal. Tis is what I get.

crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 9, 7 Mar 22 01:27 cu.Bluetooth-Modem
crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 9, 5 Mar 22 01:27 cu.Bluetooth-PDA-Sync
crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 9, 3 Mar 22 01:27 cu.Virgo-Dial-upnetworking-1
crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 9, 1 Mar 22 01:27 cu.modem

any ideas?

me too with my moto v547. HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: maxskibinski

i don't know what to tell you guys, besides follow the instructions on p. 3 to a T.

while the phone is plugged in, open Terminal. type in

ls -la /dev

after one of the cu.usbmodem or something like that, you should have a combo of 4 letters and numbers. phones w/out memory cards don't have the ability to get out of data/fax mode, so it shouldn't be a problem. my v180 has the mini USB connector and i haven't had issues connecting, besides moto4lin's generally finicky nature.

also be sure to follow any installation instructions for the program addressed in this thread.

Posted by: Winston7

Everyone should check out this new guide posted by Kingmob in one of the Motomodding forums. It is very clear and well organized and should be a valuable resource, he did a great job! Enjoy and drop him a note to thank him.

http://aquaville.net/index.php/PEBL_U6

Posted by: Big.Johnson

Quote:

Originally Posted by maxskibinski

i don't know what to tell you guys, besides follow the instructions on p. 3 to a T.

while the phone is plugged in, open Terminal. type in

ls -la /dev

after one of the cu.usbmodem or something like that, you should have a combo of 4 letters and numbers. phones w/out memory cards don't have the ability to get out of data/fax mode, so it shouldn't be a problem. my v180 has the mini USB connector and i haven't had issues connecting, besides moto4lin's generally finicky nature.

also be sure to follow any installation instructions for the program addressed in this thread.

I have follow any installation instructions but neither work....

Posted by: dragonhead08

has anyone gotten this to work on an L7?

Posted by: bigdaddy1mt

i am on a mac and have successfully loaded my phonebook onto a so-called enabled v3c. perhaps my methode may work for you without playing with the firmware. i offer this because i lack the skills to do so.

So here goes. I went to verizon to be flased from .3 to .4. big problem, as you know .2 had obex, .3 had it deleted and .4 enables it. problem is since it is not on .3, .4 is useless. verizon will not down grade it because it is no longer available. i'm not technically savvy enough for flashing so that is out of the question.

so onto plan b. here is what i did and got my phonebook on the razr. first you need to be able to transfer via bluetooth. got the belkin usb bluetooth adapter. download onsync 1.9.1, install it.

open bluetooth preferences panel and and in the Devices heading, click on setup new new device. follow the prompts for setting up the device. before i forget before you set up the device turn on bluetooth on your phone so it is recognized. make sure that under settings, you click on discoverable and check off all of them without checking "use encryption"

next, go to bluetooth set up. follow the prompts, even to th set up of accesing the web through your computers portal. use your email address and password. as for access number use your area code and phone number. don't ask, i did it as a fluke and it was accepted.

then open onsync, which is linked to your mac address book. open preferences, under the mobile device header, click your phone, serial device is /dev/cu.bluetooth-modem, baud 19200, click on load phone numbers...., click test connection, once it establishes a connecyion. click okay. your addressbook appears oin the left, on the right menu, scroll to me mobile phonebook and start your syncing by pressing the right icon in the middle two, on the top of the user interface. and voala--it syncs.

again, i stumbled onto this in desperation. no idea why it worked but it did.

best of luck.

Posted by: cogito

[QUOTE=dudebrah]And now I get this!

[info] Phone pluged as P2K
Try to connect
[info] Phone connected as P2K
[error] Phone is busy. Please try later

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I get that also with my V220, but that's as far as it ever gets. Does anyone know how to make the phone not busy? [leave the battery out for a very long time? But the clock seems to stay functional for a long time with the battery out]

So weird!(if I may say so as well!)

Posted by: cogito

Sorry, folks, I have the answer now. I did a search on the 'error' message and found this useful information:

http://www.aquaville.net/index.php/PEBLU6

Your phone is connected now. Don't be alarmed about a "Phone is busy. Please try later" warning, that's just telling you that your phone, or Moto4Lin, is doing something right now. Click on File Manager and Update List, and you'll get a file list from your phone.

And indeed I did!

While we're on the subject of useful information and its absence, it would be most useful if the complete program at

http://homepage.mac.com/gregmeach/H...ac/moto4lin.zip

(which I can strongly recommend as it saves lengthy battles with building software using Unix commands) were to include a README file which drew your attention to the fact that included in the zip set is a file called Qt-Mac334-Mini.zip.webloc, the opening of which takes you to a web site where you can download a file which unzips to a package that on installation provides you with the Qt libraries needed to run moto4lin! I had a lot of trouble before I spotted the file and opened it out of curiosity.

Posted by: cogito

I can now access the audio, video, picture etc. directories on my V220 using moto4lin. But where are one's saved web pages located (reason for interest: if one could upload to that directory this would provide a means of testing wml pages)? And for that matter one's contacts directory? Can moto4lin just not access that part of the system?

Posted by: milenko11

Any update for using this with an L7?

Posted by: milenko11

Ok, I just read in another thread that it does work with the L6/L7.

So does anyone have a seem map for the L7? I need a few things: i want to get ptt off my smart key, I need to get my voicemail to stop sending me an sms, and I also want autoupdate of date/time. Thanks!

Posted by: 24fps

I used this for my L6 and it has worked so far!

"1. Plug in your phone
2. Open terminal and type the following:

ls -la /dev

3. Now scroll up and look for something like cu.usbmodemxxxx

Note: it is easier to follow the instructions on the wiki site but after I got used to knowing what I was looking for I just used the ls command after I plugged the phone in. Sorry....Mine was cu.usbmodem1B11

5. Now open up Moto4lin and open up preferences

6. In the top line (ACM device) change the entry to match up for your phone, mine is /dev/cu.usbmodem1B11 for my RAZR and /dev/cu.usbmodem5B141 for my ROKR

7. Click the Update list button to display all your USB devices
Note: Here's what I found to be the tricky part

8. The first time you click the button, find your phone and click set as AT Device. Click ok to close the prefs window.

9. Click the Connect/Disconnect button and it should start to connect and then fail

10. Open up the preferences again and click the update list button and you will now see a different number for your phone. Click the set as P2k Device button.
Mine was 4902 for AT and 4901 for P2k, odd but it works."

this works! Thanks Cybergreg!

here is the seem map that has worked on my L6 so far:

http://xlr8.us/hofo/map.txt

Posted by: gregorydanger

Quote:

Originally Posted by milenko11

Any update for using this with an L7?

works fine on an l7. just make sure, particularly if you don't have a transflash card in the phone (like me), that you go to "settings > connectivity > usb settings > default connection: data/fax" because by default, the usb settings will point towards a memory card whether one is present or not.

that one stumped me for about a half an hour. :P

Posted by: extmtnbkr

I am having trouble getting this to build and the built copy is no longer avail for download
does anyone have a built copy that i can just download??
thanks

Posted by: aquacoco

I don't know if anyone is still doing any .seem editing, but if your looking for a Mac-native hex editor, I found two:

0xED

&

hexfiend

Both are free, open source software.

Posted by: aquacoco

For anyone that is still trying to download CyberGreg's compiled version of Moto4lin

Code:

(http://homepage.mac.com/gregmeach/HelloMoto/Moto4Mac/moto4lin.zip)

, you must right-click or control-click on the link and then specify where you want to save the file when the save-dialog box appears.

Some people were saying that it's a dead link, but that's because they were directly clicking on the link instead of right-clicking.

Here's the link again incase anyone needs it.....

Posted by: aquacoco

Again, you must right- or control-click on the file to initiate the download process. Directly clicking on the link only results in your browser trying to execute the file.......

Qt-download .zip

Posted by: aquacoco

Does anyone know how to remove menu items on the Razr V3 using Moto4lin? I want to delete the MyAccount, MediaNet and Cingular Mall crap from my menu. Hope someone can help me out........

Posted by: extmtnbkr

I am trying to add the websessions menu item ot the pebl but I can't seem to edit the mma_dcp and mma_ucp files (using OSX and moto4lin)
can anyone suggest a program to use for this

Posted by: marklevinson1

Hey all,

Let me just say first that I have tried to avoid posting a question for some time so as to not duplicate what is already here. I have read every post I could find on this site on many forums, scoured motomodders.net, did some serious googling, read every n00b guide I could find.

I use a Mac. I have a v360 which is unbranded. I realized that the voice memo feature was not there as listed in the specs for the phone. I had wanted to try the flash/flexing but realized that was a PC only venture and that people did not have luck going the VirtualPC route. So now I learn about moto4lin and seem editing through these forums. I set everything up including the qt3 software. I have been getting the same message as other folks:

Try to connect
[info] Phone connected as P2K
[error] Unable to get phone model
[error] Unable to get drive name
[error] Unable to get file count
[error] Unable to get drive name

So I tried to change the settings in the preferences as suggested here:

http://moto4lin.sourceforge.net/wiki/V360

Did not work. I kept connecting and disconnecting, rebooting, plugging, unplugging, etc. Any suggestions would be GREATLY appreciated. Also, how do you back up seems using a Mac?

Thank you!

Posted by: Shirohagen

OK I'm up and running with moto4lin, although it's very unstable on my Mac and makes the PowerBook get VERY hot.

Anyway, using it for short periods only, I have uploaded skins successfully and edited the appropriate seem to enable the java app loader. I haven't had any luck uploading Java files to the phone though, the buttons on the kjava screen are all grayed out. How do I do this? Do I use the file management tools to simply upload .jar & .jad files to the kjava folders? What is the purpose of the "Java App Loader"?

Can anyone who has done all this help?

®

Posted by: Digitol

I have done a few seem edits with moto4lin on mac os x. I have a L7 slvr.

Posted by: Digitol

I have built a small app that will help begginers properly connect to Moto4lin on Mac OS X. you can download the app from slvrfiles.info (a fantastic site, if you have never checked it out, do so) in the downloads section..(signup for free account needed) or you can download it here: http://digitol.homeip.net/Moto4LinConfig.zip

Hope this helps some folks. -Digitol-

Posted by: crephoto

Reading this thread with great interest. I have a V3C and run Mac OS X 10.4.6 on my Powerbook G4. I followed all instructions, and although Moto4lin is able to connect to my phone (/dev/cu.usbmodem1B11), I still receive the following errors:

[info] Phone pluged as P2K
[info] Phone connected as P2K
[error] Unable to get phone model
[error] Unable to get drive name
[error] Unable to get file count
[error] Unable to get drive name

When attempting to enable upload/download (File Manger, Seems, or Java), upon selecting "Update List", I receive the following:

Getting file list
[info] Found drives: [ ]
[info] Search request: [/|*]
[debug] Unable to execute search request
Complete

Any help?

Thanks - Great forum, great thread!

Carlito

Posted by: Digitol

Hey Carlito, If you have the Razr V3c that is usualy a verizon version phone or CDMA/TDMA phone. Try using an app called bitpim, you may have better results there. I think moto4lin only supports gsm based phones. Hope that helps. P.S. Did you happen to use my configurator utility? If so Hope it worked for you. -Digitol-

Posted by: crephoto

Thanks for the tip to try bitpim. Unfortunately, I receive an error from bitpim when trying to d/l info from my phone to my Mac. The specific error is:

"The phone is not responding while transitioning mode from none to phonebook."

The dialog box suggests checking the troubleshooting tips but nothing helpful was found.

The device driver in use is /dev/cu.usbmodem1B11.

And your configuration utility wasn't helpful since I had already knew the manual method for determining the device driver (ls -al /dev before & after plugging in phone, then checking the difference).

Posted by: marklevinson1

Digitol,

God bless ya! This is exactly what I need! I have not had a chance to try it out yet but it looks like it will do the trick. Thanks for producing that! I will post again after I use it.

Mark

Posted by: Digitol

Hey crephoto Sorry my utility wasn't helpfull to you since you were already "all knowing" hahahah... anyhoo maybe it would be best you sell your mac, and get a PC.

Posted by: Digitol

Mark, Hope my utility helps..let me know if it work out for you, it's just a quick thing I put together last minute. . . I like it because it saves me from doing terminal commands, when the device address changes..this can happen if you use different usb ports etc. sometimes. : )

Posted by: crephoto

Quote:

Originally Posted by Digitol

maybe it would be best you sell your mac, and get a PC.

Now there's a helpful post. I could do that, but then I'd have to pay $50 for MMPT for Windows to sync my phone. I can do this on Mac OS X with the free, built-in iSync utility. Oh, yeah, and it syncs directly to the built-in Address Book, so I only have to enter my contacts in one place rather than in two or three. iSync lets me sync my contacts to my iPod as well.

Thanks, but I think I'll keep my Mac. My PC died about eight months ago and I haven't really missed it except in rare situations like this and when my son & I hacked his PS2.

Posted by: applecrisp

Hey Umm i havent only read a couple pags of this thread but when I download moto4lin and tryed to run it on my G3 500mhz it bounces in the dock once then quits why is this?

Posted by: fnuggetzor

if it says Unable to get phone model, your phone might not be supported

Posted by: cogito

Quote:

Originally Posted by applecrisp

Hey Umm i havent only read a couple pags of this thread but when I download moto4lin and tryed to run it on my G3 500mhz it bounces in the dock once then quits why is this?

This has come up before, and if I recall correctly the explanation is that you have not installed the qt library that moto4lin uses. The download includes a .webloc file that will take you to the installation site. If your browser shows garbage instead of downloading the file, use save as to download the zip archive containing the QT installer. If you search this thread you may find a more direct method.

$ % $ %

No-one answered my earlier question as to where, or whether, you can find saved web pages in the files listed by moto4lin, so I'll try asking the question again ... .

Posted by: Digitol

Applecrisp make sure and download and install these support files needed to run Moto4lin. http://homepage.mac.com/gregmeach/H...Mac334-Mini.zip

Posted by: Digitol

Cogito, I don't think you can find saved webpages in moto4lin...It may be internalized in hex format in a seem maybe.. I dunno....

hahahah i'm very tired sorry.

Posted by: applecrisp

Okay well.. I got the App running good thanks but it probably doesn't support the SLVR yet does it?

Posted by: Deadend

Well I had to read this thread for a long time and *very carefully*, but everything here got my phone working with moto4lin on my iBook and my v635. Skins, ring tones, thanks everybody for a great tutorial!

Now the next challenge: Installing Java apps with this on OSX. My question: Does anyone else have "add , remove, set .pat file, & save" all blanked out when clicking over to "kjava" on moto4lin? So... what's with that? Can the OSX compilation not be used to install java apps via the usb cable? I've already edit the 43 bit 0 to 1 to enable the java applet loader, but still can't seem to install any apps using this program on my mac, not even close.