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Posted by: djhyro

hey guys..what do you think? its not pro but i like it







Posted by: Spac3d

I like it. It is the first all black SKII I have seen



Posted by: brewdaddy

thats ***** hot
i was thinking of doing the same thing let me know how the paint holds up and if you could some instructions on taking it apart
thanx



Posted by: Chinasaur

1. Looks like Krylon spray-on paint. Or Rustoleum?

2. Is it tacky? Do your fingers stick to it?



Posted by: djhyro

first off, the whole reason why i did this was because i jumped into the ocean w/ my first SKII (salt water = quick death). i got a new one and used the housing from my deceased SKII and painted it.

i went to hobbytownUSA and bought tamiya surface primer and tamiya color spray paint (for plastics). i sanded the thing down using 800grit sand paper..just enough to get it dull so the primer can stick...i sprayed 1 coat primer and 2 coats black metallic...although for the front it seems like i held the paint can too close to it because it doesn't look as smooth as the back...i didnt put any clear coat as this is my first test..i'm planning on taking it apart and painting it again, but with patience this time and a couple coats of clear coat...for now, the paint is holding up well...the trick is to keep the paint coat really thin...the thicker the coat, the easier it comes off...it doesn't feel sticky at all..it feels just like how it feels originally...taking the unit apart is fairly simple..heres a quick step by step:

1. Remove the 4 buttons by digging your nail to the edges closest to the screen and lifting it up.
2. Remove your sim card and bumpers.
3. Flip the screen half way and remove the 2 torx screws by the reset button.
4. Remove the other 4 torx screws under the buttons.
5. Carefully detach the top from the bottom. The top bumper area will be easier to detach than the bottom bumper area. The bottom requires the slightest bit of force.
5. Once you have the top separated from the bottom, remove the 3 black screws in the middle of the circuit board on the bottom half (they form a triangle). There are 2 additional screws above and below the directional keypad. These do not need to be removed in order to remove the circuit board from the bottom housing
6. Now, you can lift the circuit board away from the bottom housing. Notice the vibrator on the top right and the speaker on the left side are still on the housing. You will need to remove these if you want to paint it. You will also need to mask the two gray areas on the bottom housing (the one that says SIDEKICK II) (if you dont want to paint over them) as well as the camera viewfinder, mirror, and flash area.
7. For the top half, once those 2 torx screws near the reset button are removed, the screen can come off. If you look at the top half of the unit, you will see a cylindrical shape piece of metal at the top. This manages the screen cable so it doesn't tangle whenever you flip it. This whole assembly comes off with the screen. All you have to do is guide it out of the housing.
8. The housing for the screen can be removed by unscrewing the 4 screws behind it where the IMEI sticker is. The housing snaps off easily.
8. The rest is cake. The buttons for hanging up and pick up and also the scroll wheel can be removed easily. The scroll wheel is held on by 2 screws. The keyboard snaps off easily. Don't forget to unscrew the white piece of plastic stopper that physically stops the screen whenever it flips.



Posted by: Falcon_i730

Wow, all I can say is wow. That looks really good. Very OEM like. You should post this over at hiptop.com (if you haven't already) and maybe a Danger will get a glimpse of it and decide start making a black SK2. If they are making black SK2's by the time my Nextel contract is up I will defenately be picking one up.

Quote:
Originally Posted by djhyro
first off, the whole reason why i did this was because i jumped into the ocean w/ my first SKII (salt water = quick death). i got a new one and used the housing from my deceased SKII and painted it.


Good idea, painting the broken SK2 first.

I can't get over how good that looks. Mad props yo.



Posted by: JordanEsh

wow i like it.. almost makes me want my sk2 back...



Posted by: TonyRR

Yeah I'm jumping on the band wagon I wanted to paint mines from day one but i didn't know how to take it apart the right way thanks............ I'm going to do a glossy black to match my Limited edition glossy black SL65.....



Posted by: Jack T. Chance

Quote:
Originally Posted by djhyro
hey guys..what do you think? its not pro but i like it



Now that's what I'm talkin' about! That's what the SKII should've looked like all along!

Well... all except for the pink bumpers. Those have gotta go! You need to either put some black ones on there to complete the all-black look, or you need to at least put the original gray bumpers back on!

Other than that, excellent job!



Posted by: LouisStabile

Nice!!!! If i do paint my sidekick it will be black with green bumpers



Posted by: Sonic McTails

Very hot! I want one now :-P



Posted by: NukeEm05

I have been really thinking about getting a SKII but pushed on it because of it not really being custimizable. You mentioned that you were planning on doing it again. I wanted to know when you did again could you take pictures of the process of taking it apart, if you dont mind.



Posted by: gigabella

good idea from the poster above ..... take pics of the process


im thinking of doing this...but spraying it the same color as my car......found the paint online in spray can form, along with primer and clear coat.



Posted by: WebbyBabe

Man, that's hot. I wish the Sidekick 2 came in different colors like that.



Posted by: Infinyte8

dam thats really looks nice... really nice...



Posted by: WhiteNissanS13

black with glossy finish doesnt look that great, yours looks more oem looking.







Posted by: Reason23

yeah the shiny doesnt look as good as the more duller paint....got instructions on how to take this thing apart? when i take **** apart and dont have instructions i have a tendancy to just rip things apart and break things lol



Posted by: Jack T. Chance

Quote:
Originally Posted by Reason23
yeah the shiny doesnt look as good as the more duller paint....got instructions on how to take this thing apart? when i take **** apart and dont have instructions i have a tendancy to just rip things apart and break things lol
You clearly didn't bother to read the whole thread, because if you HAD, you would've seen that he ALREADY posted the instructions several posts before yours:
Quote:
Originally Posted by djhyro
first off, the whole reason why i did this was because i jumped into the ocean w/ my first SKII (salt water = quick death). i got a new one and used the housing from my deceased SKII and painted it.

i went to hobbytownUSA and bought tamiya surface primer and tamiya color spray paint (for plastics). i sanded the thing down using 800grit sand paper..just enough to get it dull so the primer can stick...i sprayed 1 coat primer and 2 coats black metallic...although for the front it seems like i held the paint can too close to it because it doesn't look as smooth as the back...i didnt put any clear coat as this is my first test..i'm planning on taking it apart and painting it again, but with patience this time and a couple coats of clear coat...for now, the paint is holding up well...the trick is to keep the paint coat really thin...the thicker the coat, the easier it comes off...it doesn't feel sticky at all..it feels just like how it feels originally...taking the unit apart is fairly simple..heres a quick step by step:

1. Remove the 4 buttons by digging your nail to the edges closest to the screen and lifting it up.
2. Remove your sim card and bumpers.
3. Flip the screen half way and remove the 2 torx screws by the reset button.
4. Remove the other 4 torx screws under the buttons.
5. Carefully detach the top from the bottom. The top bumper area will be easier to detach than the bottom bumper area. The bottom requires the slightest bit of force.
5. Once you have the top separated from the bottom, remove the 3 black screws in the middle of the circuit board on the bottom half (they form a triangle). There are 2 additional screws above and below the directional keypad. These do not need to be removed in order to remove the circuit board from the bottom housing
6. Now, you can lift the circuit board away from the bottom housing. Notice the vibrator on the top right and the speaker on the left side are still on the housing. You will need to remove these if you want to paint it. You will also need to mask the two gray areas on the bottom housing (the one that says SIDEKICK II) (if you dont want to paint over them) as well as the camera viewfinder, mirror, and flash area.
7. For the top half, once those 2 torx screws near the reset button are removed, the screen can come off. If you look at the top half of the unit, you will see a cylindrical shape piece of metal at the top. This manages the screen cable so it doesn't tangle whenever you flip it. This whole assembly comes off with the screen. All you have to do is guide it out of the housing.
8. The housing for the screen can be removed by unscrewing the 4 screws behind it where the IMEI sticker is. The housing snaps off easily.
8. The rest is cake. The buttons for hanging up and pick up and also the scroll wheel can be removed easily. The scroll wheel is held on by 2 screws. The keyboard snaps off easily. Don't forget to unscrew the white piece of plastic stopper that physically stops the screen whenever it flips.
If you need photos, go to google.com and do a web search for "sidekick disassembled" or words to that effect. Somebody disassembled a Sidekick II almost immediately after it came out, and posted the pictures online, but I no longer remember what site it was on. That was almost a year ago, after all.



Posted by: Reason23

yeah my bad i always scroll and reply without reading much



Posted by: IDENpimp

dude are u selling it on ebay??



Posted by: Raheel

Theres a Black Special edition coming out next month



Posted by: terryjohnson16

Quote:
Originally Posted by Raheel
Theres a Black Special edition coming out next month


Where is model 3?



Posted by: Sm07

if a limited edition black on comes out no one will want black n e more . the whole idea was to hav wut everyone else didn't. rite? well i kno i wont want a black one then i will paint one blue flake or sky blue or sumthin.



Posted by: Raheel

I cant get that piece of that is the END AND SEND KEY, they are glued on from the back, did you guys leave those on and just tape them when painting?



Posted by: NukeEm05

I just taped over the send and receive key. I also took pics of the process, but i gotta photoshop them for the instructions. Those instructions explain everything really well too.

Here are pics of mine:






its looks way better in person. i think its because of the paint i used. I have a glossy finish to match my i860 phone so it smudges easily. or maybe its because of my crappy cam. I kinda want a red one now. so i might take some better pics and sell this one on ebay and buy another one. sandin this one down and repriming it seems like alot of work.



Posted by: Reason23

other then your maskin off its coo i just cracked my screen and until i can "borrow" without askin another sidekick and get someone to swap the screens i wont be painting this one



Posted by: sidekickiilover

youve gotta tell us the step cause i really wanna paint mine . i really clueless how to do . if paint scrath does it show line when you repaint.




Posted by: sidekickiilover

your paint looks like when you did it you go yo prints all over it other wise it s tight



Posted by: sidekickiilover

srry dont read the long parts of thread



Posted by: serialnega

this is genuine art



Posted by: broox

man, DJ Hyro's looks hot, the other 2 peeps that painted theirs don't look quite as good. i'm guessing they painted too thick, used the wrong kind of paint, or something to that effect.

take your time, use the right stuff, spray thin. i think i'm going to try this and hopefully make mine look as good as dj hyro's. that seriously looks so good. maybe i will try painting a stencil on the back, too.

can you tell us exactly what paint you used? Tamiya black metallic color spray paint... is it gloss? satin? whatever it is, it looks way better than the gloss black ones.



Posted by: gkmarcf1

wow your sidekick is sooooo sick!! where did you get the paint to do it ??



Posted by: homer2010

damn....that phone looks really sexy



Posted by: gunit0715

Hot Phone Wish I could get mine like dat



Posted by: dingus890

It Looks Awesome!! to me man!!!i tried painting my old Audio Vox cell red and it looked Horid cause i used wrong paint and it chipped and ewww but u did awesome!i want to paint my Kyocera Koi Black and Red!Thanks for the tipsit looks Awesome



Posted by: gunit0715

how long did it take to do?



Posted by: yis903unposubl

looks really clean to me! good job! will you paint my house?



Posted by: Paolo

looks really hott dj hydro... i like the flat black look. Any trouble with the paint coming off or rubbing onto your hands/clothes? or did you clear coat it? what other colours does the bumpers come in? do they come in black? we have brown in canada and perhaps they can be died black? that would look PRO!!



Posted by: BOOKIEWK

If any one would like there faceplates or any other electronic devices paisted or alterd leave me an e-mail or message and I will try to help out.



Posted by: icel0rd

There are bumpers in all sorts of colors, including black on Ebay. Most people want too much for them, but there is at least one vendor that had a reasonable price and shipping rate.



Posted by: ThunderChunk69

im thinking of claiming mine stolen, getting a new one for $75 deductible with t-mobile or is it $35?



Posted by: ThunderChunk69

err *lost, not stolen



Posted by: ThunderChunk69

i should really read what i type before hitting the reply button,
claiming it lost so i can paint the housing



Posted by: Yolandayo

Omg i want that.I would paint mines bright pink and yellow bumpers.I like wild colors plus i am a girl.



Posted by: 1fastmax05

can you really report it lost and get one for like 75?



Posted by: 1fastmax05

does anyone know if the dummy phones have the same shell as the normal sidekick? i think its just missing its brain. if anyone knows please tell me lol



Posted by: BOOKIEWK

allmost all dummy phones have the same shell as the real equipment. However, some of the dummy shells are glued together rather than screwd together and can sometimes present a problem when trying to disasemble. Be carefule and you could have an awsome backup shell to mess with as you please!



Posted by: lilvanmuzz

Quote:
Originally Posted by 1fastmax05
does anyone know if the dummy phones have the same shell as the normal sidekick? i think its just missing its brain. if anyone knows please tell me lol


i bought a dummy phone a while back becuz my keypad was jacked up.... i took it apart and the case cannot be used with the sidekick......



Posted by: lilvanmuzz

Quote:
Originally Posted by djhyro
hey guys..what do you think? its not pro but i like it.






i painted my sidekick black.... i was wondering how u did the keys and what kinda o clean coat did u use.... whenever i do the clear coat it takes off the black..



Posted by: NukeEm05

When I painted my kick and showed it on here. I have since then sold it and have been paintin my friends kicks and even buyin them in bulk to sell them on ebay. I've gotten really good, i have disemble and prep one in about 20-25minutes and it only takes about 3 days to dry properly for 2 coats and one clear coat. here are my just recent additions.

I recently sold the black one on ebay. The metallic blue and candyapple red will be going on ebay later today. The other two i havent decided what color i want to paint them yet. My friend requested a color changing one so i migth be doin that next. I'll post my results.



Posted by: V-Bizzle

What kind of screwdriver do you have to use to get the damn screws off? Can anyone do a picture tutorial of this??



Posted by: NukeEm05

torx t-6 and size 0 phillips, home depot or loews wont carry it. i found mines at ace hardware



Posted by: Espo

I am a manager at an auto apperence center, and we have a huge PPG paint system. I can lookup and make any color you can think of. I painted a bunch of Motorola v600 faceplates and sold them online. Primer, base and clear. When im bored, i create custom colors and paint random things. I am def going to paint my sidekick when i get another one.
Can you find OEM housings anywhere for the kick? If so, I can paint them ANY color you can imagine. Some paints and pearls are expensive though.



Posted by: V-Bizzle

Ooooohhh I'm so tempted to try it but I'm scared to screw up my phone!! Does anyone know where I can get a sidekick with a broken screen or something so I can try it on something else before I do it for real?



Posted by: youngyoshi

ebay or there a sum sites for dummy phones 2



Posted by: poetic

the black sk2 looks pretty hot.. cheaper than buying a mr cartoon edition sk2.



Posted by: MystA RavE

how does it hold up? Does it rub off?



Posted by: nigiano

yall got some tight work on here! Keep Paintin !



Posted by: negronese

i got info that the dummys dont fit the sk2 but the sk did.



Posted by: nexteleddie

Quote:
Originally Posted by djhyro
hey guys..what do you think? its not pro but i like it




thats just flippin sweet



Posted by: djhyro

thanks for the replies/compliments everyone...since first painting it, it has held up nicely. the #1 trick in painting these is very thin coats...i'm talking thin (dont hold up the can too close to the parts..let the paint kind of fall on it)..



Posted by: TonyRR

I call this piece Mosaic Sidkick enjoy lol

Every body that has seen it loves it, its crazy everybody thinks its hot for some reason.











Posted by: phavor

going to have to give it a shot



Posted by: jay2nj4bk

can anyone tell me which stores can i buy blue spray paint and glossy paint too i want to paint my sidekick blue can anyone just list some stores



Posted by: jay2nj4bk











DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW TO GET RID OF THESE MARKS?



Posted by: sniper0981

nuke...what type of paint u use for the diff colors? like what brand?



Posted by: jay2nj4bk

i used Krylon blue paint the shiny kind



Posted by: jay2nj4bk

Quote:
Originally Posted by NukeEm05
When I painted my kick and showed it on here. I have since then sold it and have been paintin my friends kicks and even buyin them in bulk to sell them on ebay. I've gotten really good, i have disemble and prep one in about 20-25minutes and it only takes about 3 days to dry properly for 2 coats and one clear coat. here are my just recent additions.

I recently sold the black one on ebay. The metallic blue and candyapple red will be going on ebay later today. The other two i havent decided what color i want to paint them yet. My friend requested a color changing one so i migth be doin that next. I'll post my results.



what kind of blue paint did you use what brand and what kind? i really wanted to paint mine that way



Posted by: sniper0981

thats the same thing i asked.....



Posted by: puerrican718

Those paint jobs are hot guys. I got a sidekick2 on me that I was thinking of painting up aswell, got some krylon primer and a good metallic blue aswell on hand but never bother with dissambling the sk2 thinking it was really hard. But if i do go ahead and do it I wanna replace the screen aswell. Does anyone know if you can atleast use the lcd cover screen from the dummy phone versions of the sk2???



Posted by: jay2nj4bk

Quote:
Originally Posted by puerrican718
Those paint jobs are hot guys. I got a sidekick2 on me that I was thinking of painting up aswell, got some krylon primer and a good metallic blue aswell on hand but never bother with dissambling the sk2 thinking it was really hard. But if i do go ahead and do it I wanna replace the screen aswell. Does anyone know if you can atleast use the lcd cover screen from the dummy phone versions of the sk2???


What's a dummy version of the sidekick?



Posted by: puerrican718

Basically the display version. Its like those fake phones you see in stores that are just for display. Most fake phones use the same housing as the phones they display except they have no mechanical parts ofcourse.they usually cost around $5 - $15



Posted by: sniper0981

idk bout that, but its not a bad idea....my screen is scratched to hell.....i might have to pick one up and find out



Posted by: jay2nj4bk

Quote:
Originally Posted by puerrican718
Basically the display version. Its like those fake phones you see in stores that are just for display. Most fake phones use the same housing as the phones they display except they have no mechanical parts ofcourse.they usually cost around $5 - $15


Oh cool i never knew that where can i buy em at?



Posted by: puerrican718

Usually some sites online sell em or ebay,, BUT understand not all dummy phones can you use the case for the actual phone. Like from what I'm hearing on this thread is that the actual dummy phone cant be used for extra case parts even.



Posted by: sniper0981

so that means the phone is usless other than display...damn



Posted by: exotik

how much would you charge me to do mine the same as the blue?
IM me @ eltigreXotico




Posted by: LastZ

Painted mine yesterday, i couldnt wait to put it back together even though i should have given it a few days to cure!!!









I would be willing to paint these for people in a variety of colors, if anyone is interested and wants more details, email fastls1@tmail.com

Mike



Posted by: negronese

u really should let yours sit for a day or two..



Posted by: LastZ

Actually 7 for a full cure, chip resistant, I did it in my paint booth. I am going to add some effects to the paint next week, and two tone highlights and then a few shots of clear.

I paint automotive interior plastics and it was really the same process but less prep because the plastic is very smooth already and takes to the primer and paint well.



Posted by: bigd2323

what kind of primer did you use??????? clear or white????



Posted by: BXNYC

I just wanted to give props to all the people on here who painted their sidekick II's. I was looking at your pics and it got me thinking about my own phone. I have a black/silver sharp 903 (as if you can't already tell from my profile) and a special edition pure black version of the 903 had just recently came out. I was wondering if that tamiya surface primer and tamiya color spray paint (for plastics) would work for my phone?



Posted by: BXNYC

I'm anxiously awaiting for the release of the SK III rumored to be April 6th 2006. I can't wait to see what this will look like painted in different colors.





Posted by: negronese

where the hell did you pull that date from.. i still think that is early..



Posted by: aznpharm

I painted mine yesterday.... used krylon fusion gloss black... kinda looked like crap..... then I used krylon matte finish... on it.. looks stellar today... gonna wait 5 days to put it back together again.. hopefully that will be long enough to cure



Posted by: elegantsole

hey man can you tell me what kind of screw driver you used and what size to take the sk2 apart?



Posted by: aznpharm

the search kind

Hint: it's star shaped...



Posted by: bigd2323

did you use primer on it?



Posted by: aznpharm

nope had krylon fusion



Posted by: bigd2323

did u sand the body down???



Posted by: aznpharm

hey here's an idea.. search the 1/2 million posts about this.. and read...



Posted by: bigd2323

Quote:
Originally Posted by NukeEm05
When I painted my kick and showed it on here. I have since then sold it and have been paintin my friends kicks and even buyin them in bulk to sell them on ebay. I've gotten really good, i have disemble and prep one in about 20-25minutes and it only takes about 3 days to dry properly for 2 coats and one clear coat. here are my just recent additions.

I recently sold the black one on ebay. The metallic blue and candyapple red will be going on ebay later today. The other two i havent decided what color i want to paint them yet. My friend requested a color changing one so i migth be doin that next. I'll post my results.

HEY JUST WANTES TO KNOW AFTER YOU APPLIED THE TAMITA METTALIC BLUE SPRAY PAINT AND LET IT DRY AFTER DID YOU USE Tamiya Spray Lacquer TS-13 Clear WHEN FINISHED PAINTING IT MET BLUE LET ME KNOW THANKS...



Posted by: aznpharm

THIS ONE'S FOR YOU BIGD2323


So here's my rendition...



so here's the deal... follow the instructions to take apart the sk2

2. then sand the all the silver off with 600-800 grit sand paper...
3. wash off the area with alcohol to get the particles out....
4l then buy krylon fusion gloss and krylon fusion matte (if you want the matte finish look... didn't like the gloss look)... (no priming the required)
4.5. mask off the areas you don't want painted by putting tape on top and using a razor to trace around it... i used clear packaging tap so i could see through it...
5. when spraying the krylon... the easy spray nozzle paints in kinda a vertical line (as opposed to a circle like other spray paint) ...
6. spray a little starting to the far left of the case parts to get out the sputtering of the initial part of the spray...then move your hand about an inch a second accross the case part keeping your hand about 1 1/2 to 2 feet away from the target... I would suggest practicing on a piece of cardboard so you know how it sprays...
7. put about 3 layers of the black on waiting a couple of hours (at least) between each coat...
8. let it dry for a day
9. then use the krylon matte and follow the process about 2-3 more times.. (move your hand slower than you did with the black paint)... let dry for at least 5 days... probably want to let is set for 7 days... then reassemble...


on one note: i did use latex gloves throughout the whole process... so as not to get hand oils on the case parts



Posted by: bigd2323

thats tight thanks i was going to use tamiya mettalic blue but the black looks tight thanks for the description



Posted by: lilvanmuzz

I've painted my



Posted by: kingboy

does antbody know where i can get a cheap sidekick2 at.



Posted by: illreaxion

Ill be doing this very soon, Im getting my hands on an inop. SK2. Along with the write-up, Ill be sure to take pictures and hopefully give a better view of whats going on. I want to to do black, since itll be easier to match bumpers with it and what not, but I was thinking of doing a different color...any suggestions? also, I was thinking of drawing something up, a design or something, and mask it off on the back of the 'kick, paint with a different color so it stands out. I dont know yet...hopefully Ill think of something. or just end up going with black.



Posted by: xlotusx

wow.. all these black sk's look gooood...



Posted by: ChunkyRice

man, seeing these sidekicks make me wanna get one .... i'll wait for the skIII if i'll do that..



Posted by: leyvatron

Heres mine. Its not the greatest but I like it.
Those are my temp. bumpers, Im waiting on my black ones.





Posted by: illreaxion

^^

is it hard to take apart..? I really want to do mine I just dont want to break it...



Posted by: deepthr0at

quick question, when you painted your phones, how long do you wait inbetween coats, waited till it dried, or waited the whole day? also where did you paint it on, did you lay the plates flat on the floor?



Posted by: leyvatron

Just let the paint dry throughly.

You know what, I coated my sidekick 3 times and the coat gave it a good smooth finish.

Heres an update on mine with black bumpers.





Posted by: j4uhaters

I will be doing this next week. Hopefully everyones dirrections are good. I will be painting it black with some gel skins. Its will look very nice hopefully. Ill keep ya'll posted!



Posted by: Dishe

Has anyone in this thread who painted their Sidekicks ever thing of doing something like this for the MDA or heck even the SDA?
The HTC phones are notoriously difficult to replace the body of, and these guys are screaming for a way to have their phones be some color other than sterile grey (I'm sure you guys can understand the feeling).
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=966136



Posted by: kRaZi-E

thats so sickk dude...

respect.



Posted by: Jirachi127

That paint job is cool



Posted by: LouieR93

Yo dat looks tight!



Posted by: hiptop!

That looks hella good!



Posted by: proffesser

hey guys..i painted my sidekick 2 dull black.then after assembling back all together.i ran into a problem about the 4 buttons.i snap it on but its hard to press. why is that? can you guys help me on this.. thanks



Posted by: xburnerx

You need to remove the paint from inside the button housing. I ran into that same problem to, paint was to thick in there.





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