vB Easy Archive - New handsets from HTC, iMate SP5 and SP5m

Pages: 1

New handsets from HTC, iMate SP5 and SP5m
(Click here to view the original thread with full colors/images)

Posted by: Holishi

I hope this is new to most of you, if not, don't flame me...

The major improvements over the previous models are Window Mobile 5.0, quadband, and 802.11b connectivity.

Those features really make me to drool, but I am also concerning how well WM 5.0 and Wifi perform if the processer stays with 200mhz.

Expansys has them for pre-order now. I can't wait to have them available.

Posted by: Mark Larson

Oh sweet, they look exactly like the Qtek ones.

Posted by: nskgti23

Yawn....

Look at the 10 other threads about these devices from 3-4 weeks ago..

Posted by: chuckknight

Hey, you could be a little more gracious. Someone was kind enough to try to keep us informed. I, for one, appreciate his post.

Thank you Holishi.

And, in my opinion the black one is a VERY cool looking phone. Eventually when I am eligible for an upgrade, I'll probably get it, or whatever else replaces it next! Gotta' admit, the one with the keyboard is VERY tempting!

-- Chuck Knight

Posted by: iJITSU

the black one IS nice. My friend works in the industry and had a pre-production model. The screen is beautiful, and there are some nice improvements in WM5.

Posted by: nskgti23

Quote:

Originally Posted by chuckknight

Hey, you could be a little more gracious. Someone was kind enough to try to keep us informed. I, for one, appreciate his post.
-- Chuck Knight

As I said there are already 10 threads talking about these devices.

I'm not saying this isn't good news, just that they have been talked about for the last couple of weeks....

Posted by: Holishi

^ really? I briefly searched here to prevent duplicate posts before I started this thread, and the search did not return any threads dedicated to sp5. I also goggled and went on clubimate website and found that information on sp5 are extremely limited. Oh well, I am sorry this thread bothered you, I just couldn't hide my excitement when I heard about sp5.

Posted by: nskgti23

Really, you didn't see any threads about the HTC Tornado or QTek 8300/8310? Hmmm I guess I'm reading a different forum. The thread looks more like an advertisement for expansys, who has very high pre-order prices considering these devices will be sold for significantly less when released.

Posted by: shackk

I would just like to order one now! *patiently waiting*

Posted by: rosullivan04

I've got alarms set galore for Oct. 1st! Can't wait to get one... this cingular branded ROM for the SMT5600 is getting on my nerves hehe

Posted by: gr3gg0

personally i think the pricing is reasonable to pre release...or maybe these will just be very well priced.

how "less expensive" do you think these will be?

and does anyone know when these are coming out

Posted by: s.c.s.i.

Where did you hear Oct. 1st? I am also waiting like crazy for the SP5 (the black one), and think that October sound almost too good to be true.

Posted by: gr3gg0

ooo, oct 1 would b great

ok..so.. does it have msn messenger on it? ( i kno nada about windows based phones) and wat kinda headphones does it have, AND it was type b 802.11 does that mean i can get internet off my homes wireless router?

Posted by: nskgti23

Quote:

Originally Posted by rosullivan04

I've got alarms set galore for Oct. 1st! Can't wait to get one... this cingular branded ROM for the SMT5600 is getting on my nerves hehe

Oct. 1st is a Saturday... I don't think you'll see it released then...

I'd guess mid-late October to be released by the carriers. Expansys will probably have it 2 weeks before, but at a much higher price.

I'm guessing these phones will be somewhere between $150 and $200 on contract and $300 to $350 off contract judging by O2's already listed pricing of the device. O2 has said 299 euros for the device on no contract.

Posted by: rosullivan04

That was just for one website listing for when they would have it available for sale. I don't know the exact official release date.

Posted by: winn75

I hope the joystick is sturdy unlike the sp3i.

Posted by: Omega2008

I will be getting the SP5 to test out along with the other devices I will be getting.....I just wish they would make a WM5 flip with wi-fi and all that jazz.....oh well.

Posted by: winn75

Is tmobile going to have the SP5 here in the U.S. by Oct?

Posted by: nepali

You guys should checkout this cellphone: http://www.modaco.com/index.php?showtopic=227931

Posted by: CeluGeek

The black one reminds me of a Dell Axim X50 Pocket PC.

Posted by: Free Man

If you order one from Expansys can it be used with your 64K sim card in the US on Cingular, or do they prohibit this? The phone says unloacked on their site.

Anyone hear if Cingular will be getting these and are they the ones on slate for sometime in October?

Posted by: Holishi

Quote:

Originally Posted by Omega2008

I will be getting the SP5 to test out along with the other devices I will be getting.....I just wish they would make a WM5 flip with wi-fi and all that jazz.....oh well.

I read somewhere on mobile-review.com that HTC already has a WM5 flip with wifi in development, but it won't be ready until next year though.

Posted by: Omega2008

Got to see pictures of it first, and its specs but at least its something.

Posted by: PGMMA

Wirelessly posted (SonyEricssonS700i/R3K SEMC-Browser/4.0.3 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1)

Does anyone know why both of these phones have been removed from the USA expansys web site? Perhaps pressure from cellular service providers because they include Wi Fi?

Posted by: digi snacks

do you think expansys would buckle if cellular put a bit of pressure on them?

expansys do this all the time add then remove devices from there web site if you pre order you will have a better chance of buying one off the shelf then getting one from them

Posted by: Ishimaru

expansys USA doesn't have the SP5 listen on their site yet, only the QTek phone. i'd rather buy the imate than a QTek anyways.

Posted by: Vampgirl

I still hope Tmobile USA is going to get one of these as reported eariler. I'm interested in going WindowsMobile. I'll either get this from Tm if they carry it, or order a Moto MPx220

Posted by: rosullivan04

I think I'm going to shoot for the iMate too... I would like little branding as possible on the facia.

Posted by: Holishi

expansys Canada still has SP5 listed.

Posted by: MrDSL

I want one of these phones bad but I am concerned about the joystick. I remember reading a bunch of users were having QC problems with their imate joysticks breaking very easily and the joysticks on these models look exactly the same..

Posted by: hoto-p

For those interested in making a purchase, I ordered my SP5m from Expansys last Monday, and my colleague ordered the SP5. I paid $474.46 + $22 for shipping (all US $) from the UK to Canada. My device is waiting for me in receiving right now. Very fast turnaround. Despite the UK site saying "expected in 7-days", the devices are shipping within one day. I have been asked if they are SIM unlocked, and yes they are. We will be posting performance/battery/usability experiences as we uncover them, if anyone is interested.

Posted by: Holishi

so it is cheaper to order sp5 from expansys UK than from expansys canada?

Posted by: sabesh

hoto-p:

The UK site lists in Pounds and is more expensive that the price you quoted above. Which exact site did you order from and did you pay in US $s?

Thanks, Sabesh.

Posted by: hoto-p

You are absolutely correct about that. When I tried to order, I checked the US site (not the Canada site, actually) and the availability was farther out than the UK site, and the UK site clearly showed that inventory was inbound to their distribution center, whereas the US site did not. So I submitted the order on the UK site (www.expansys.co.uk) fully expecting to pay the following: 280.81 GBP (no VAT on orders shipped to Canada) plus shipping. Once they accepted my payment for that purchase I got an email within 8 hours stating that my order had been switched to the US distribution centre and that the phone would be shipped from there. They also confirmed the price via email that I included on my previous post, and stated that I would not be charged in GBP, but in USD which is somewhat lower than the UK list price. I cannot explain their actions, but, there you go. Works for me.

Once I get my final invoice and cc statement, I will be sure to correct this post if anything is in error.

Posted by: sabesh

hoto-p,

Please let us know if you had to pay taxes, duty, brokerage to recieve your SP5. I know that when ordering from the Expansys Canada site, you avoid all these fees.

Thanks,

Sabesh.

Posted by: Rookie1082

I personally got charged the sales tax because their distribution center is in bloomington illinois, and i live right outside of chicago. They informed me that people living in illinois and california will be charged the salex tax. So if you dont live in either two states, then you're all good.

Posted by: dwest218

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rookie1082

I personally got charged the sales tax because their distribution center is in bloomington illinois, and i live right outside of chicago. They informed me that people living in illinois and california will be charged the salex tax. So if you dont live in either two states, then you're all good.

did you order your sp5 from expansys uk or usa?

Posted by: Mark Larson

How much longer for the Qtek ones?

Posted by: Rookie1082

i ordered from expansys-uk, but got an email stating the conversion of the currency, as well as the shipping.

Posted by: hoto-p

I didn't have to pay duty upon receipt from Fedex but I expect I'll get a bill from some broker. This phone rocks, and the camera has really good optics. Major drawbacks: Cannot get Rogers MMS working. It worked on my Voq phone, why not this one? Argh! Sometimes the WM5.0 UI is really slow to respond. 12-key numeric buttons are somewhat hard to press so you have to use the edge of your fingernails for fast texting; Sometimes you get bumped back to the home screen when you're in the camera app - annoying (and no, I'm not accidentally pressing a button; WiFi works well but it took me a long time to find the MAC address in the phone to configure my router; Default themes and background images are poor; MiniSD is buried under the battery like on the SP3 which makes it hard to swap cards; Case is powdercoated and although I've only used it for 6 hours in total, it already has some scratches; Bluetooth activeSync was a pain to configure and it's still not working right with my laptop. //// Now for the pros: Small, light, slick, brilliant screen, great voice quality, quiet button action, side buttons are protected so that you don't accidentally press them; comes with a good stereo headset (not great, but good), the connection manager for bluetooth and WiFi is accessible from the Voice Record button on the side. That was smart; Battery came fully charged; takes great pictures (better than the SP3, better than my wife's V720) and has all the camera software and options you could want. Sweet.

Posted by: Sgt_Strider

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoto-p

I didn't have to pay duty upon receipt from Fedex but I expect I'll get a bill from some broker. This phone rocks, and the camera has really good optics. Major drawbacks: Cannot get Rogers MMS working. It worked on my Voq phone, why not this one? Argh! Sometimes the WM5.0 UI is really slow to respond. 12-key numeric buttons are somewhat hard to press so you have to use the edge of your fingernails for fast texting; Sometimes you get bumped back to the home screen when you're in the camera app - annoying (and no, I'm not accidentally pressing a button; WiFi works well but it took me a long time to find the MAC address in the phone to configure my router; Default themes and background images are poor; MiniSD is buried under the battery like on the SP3 which makes it hard to swap cards; Case is powdercoated and although I've only used it for 6 hours in total, it already has some scratches; Bluetooth activeSync was a pain to configure and it's still not working right with my laptop. //// Now for the pros: Small, light, slick, brilliant screen, great voice quality, quiet button action, side buttons are protected so that you don't accidentally press them; comes with a good stereo headset (not great, but good), the connection manager for bluetooth and WiFi is accessible from the Voice Record button on the side. That was smart; Battery came fully charged; takes great pictures (better than the SP3, better than my wife's V720) and has all the camera software and options you could want. Sweet.

Thanks for the mini preview. Hopefully after you use it a bit more, we'll get a more detailed review?

How much did you get the phone for? I notice that you live in Vancouver...I was wondering if you mind showing this to me? I'm really interested in getting a SP5, but the button issue that you mentioned kinda scares me..

Posted by: rip

Quote:

Originally Posted by sabesh

hoto-p,

Please let us know if you had to pay taxes, duty, brokerage to recieve your SP5. I know that when ordering from the Expansys Canada site, you avoid all these fees.

Thanks,

Sabesh.

you will get hit a few weeks/months later with brokerage fees.

Posted by: Caiman1900

Im getting frustrated, I ordered mine oct 2 and still havent gotten it. I wish they would give a better update than the everchanging 2 day to 10 days to 14 days to 4 days. Right now the UK web site says 4 days and my track order says 14 days...

Posted by: hoto-p

Summary after 36 hours with the phone.

> Pros:
> ----
> Small
> Light
> Great finish and feel
> Strong Battery life provided minimal WiFi
> Easy to hold
> Killer screen (high res, clear, bright)
> Light sensor to adjust backlight settings automatically
> Side buttons are hard to press accidentally
> Hot buttons for music and web actually very useful
> Mini USB charge and sync
> Came with good stereo headset - deafening
> Bluetooth a snap to connect to a headset
> Voice Record doubles as a hot button to Communicatios Manager - easy to turn on/off WiFi/Bluetooth/Silent
> Great speaker phone - about as good as Voq's
> Amazing optics for the camera - takes some of the best pics I have seen on a 1.3MP camera phone
>
> Cons
> -------
> Almost impossible to find your MAC address for configuring a WiFi router
> Dialler buttons are hard to press and easy to misdial
> Sometimes the OS seems slow to respond, like the first SPV
> When in Camera app, you are sometimes jumped back to the home screen
> Web and Music buttons are easy to press accidentally
> Everytime you turn it on it tries to download Antivirus definitions automatically. I finally removed the software
> Windows Media Player is as weak as ever. Still haven't figured out how to create playlist. Read the manual I guess or get a better one from Cool Smartphone
> The left/right softkeys and home/back buttons are miniscule. Took some getting used to
> Only about 20MB ot 64MB available for user apps and data. WTF? I know WM5 takes at least 32MB but where's the rest gone?
> MMS will not download or send (I get notifications, but cannot receive the images) - Same settings as my T616 which works perfectly. Microsoft sucks *** sometimes.

Posted by: carsmovies

^ How about seeing some of the pic's taken with it's camera.

Also, how's the RF?

Posted by: chris_c28

Could you kindly tell us how you managed to find your phone's MAC address? I need it too.

Posted by: cellchamp

Could you tell me how you find SP5m's MAC address? I need it too.

Posted by: Gator5000e

hoto-p, how's the RF? Better, worse or same as SMT 5600? Does the signal drop bars as the phone is used like the 5600 (or at least mine)? Thanks for any info!

Posted by: chris_c28

My nightmare has indeed come true. The SP5 seems to have the memory problem common in early SPVs. It uses up the Storage Memory to store all applications, leaving only a few MBs to run programs. I constantly receive the "not enough memory" message even with no programs installed on the device (all on storage card).
Never had this problem since WM2003 till now. From my observations, the MPx220 saves applications on the program memory instead of the part of memory that is used to run applications.

Is there a fix for this?

Posted by: Omega2008

RAM use in WM5 is backwards compared to WM2003SE. Make sure you don't have any programs running in the background, make sure that you uninstall the antivirus software that came with it (well some come with it) that takes up alot of system resources.

Posted by: shackk

Quote:

Originally Posted by Omega2008

RAM use in WM5 is backwards compared to WM2003SE. Make sure you don't have any programs running in the background, make sure that you uninstall the antivirus software that came with it (well some come with it) that takes up alot of system resources.

Just an fyi, the antivirus software may not be accessible in the add/remove programs (if it is the same on the kjam) it will be in the extended rom and once deleted from there a hard reset will need to be performed so it does not install itself. This is true for all of the manufacturer settings that are not needed either.

***Remember to back up FIRST!***

Posted by: chris_c28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Omega2008

My understanding is that the RAM issue does not affect the Smartphone version of WM5 since WM2003SE already implements the PS issue if you're talking about that.
The anti virus software is accessible from the add/remove programs menu. However, you could have easily deleted the shortcut from the startup folder.

Posted by: Omega2008

You maybe right now that think about it........wonder why they didn't change it on the smartphone platform if that is indeed the case.

Posted by: chris_c28

Homescreen....still in beta mode
Gotta figure out how WM5 works
Beta Homescreen

Posted by: sabesh

chris_c28,

Are you still having the memory issues or have you found a workaround or a fix for it?

Thanks,

Sabesh.

Posted by: hoto-p

Just got back from Florida (out from Naples before Wilma hits) and had some interesting experiences with the Sp5m there. RF is not strong, I must admit. Even though the phone showed 4 bars, standing on a golf course, it would sometimes drop suddenly to two, but act like there was one or "no" bars...resulting in dropped calls or wouldn't dial out. Setting it beside my T616, the Sony would make a call but the Sp5m wouldn't in certain cases. Disappointing. Very very similar to the SMT5600. Worst thing was the battery life. When roaming, no bluetooth and no WiFi, with email polling once per day, I got 1.5 days out of the battery if I was lucky. My Voq would give me that with work and personal mail polling every 15 minutes for 10 hours of the day. I spent a long hour one evening showing people the phone and logging into various web sites. That night, the battery died after only 17 hours. It is without a doubt a very hungry display. I didn't check the MFR specs on the LCD but I expect they deferred to image quality over power draw.

Posted by: hoto-p

Quote:

Originally Posted by chris_c28

Could you kindly tell us how you managed to find your phone's MAC address? I need it too.

Chris/Cellchamp: It was so simple, but annoying nonetheless. It would have been a very valuable addition to the pathetic User Guide:

(1) Ensure your router is turned on.
(2) Enable WiFi on the phone
(3) Navigate to Start > Settings > Connections > WiFi Settings > Connection Status.
(4) Scroll down to "MAC:". The trick is: This will be blank if your phone and router cannot see each other. Even though your phone doesn't have a connection through the router yet, it has a connection to the router. If you still don't see it (like I didn't originally because I hide my SSID), then you must first create a New... WiFi connection.

(5) Navigate to Start > Settings > Connections > WiFi Settings > WiFi > New... Input all the settings. Now it should work. Let me know if these instructions fail, and I'll try it again. This is from memory.

- Hoto

Posted by: chris_c28

hoto-p, it doesn't work initially because my SSID was hidden. But I found it after all. Thanks.

sabesh, i havent found a valid workaround, but i think you can change your registry entries and make the IE Temp folder point to your storage card. Besides that just move all applications to the storage card. The memory management in WM5 reverts back to Smartphone 2002. Somehow, this memory issue caused Smart Explorer to recognise my OS as Smartphone 2002.

Posted by: hoto-p

[QUOTE=carsmovies]^ How about seeing some of the pic's taken with it's camera.

How do I do that? My pics are all over 128k and HoFo is rejecting them.

Here's a link to 4 pics I took. Sorry that you may have to register to see them.
http://www.kodakgallery.com/Slidesh...&Uy=pgjoul&Ux=1

Let me know if you can't see them. Zoom was turned off for all of them. The first picture of the hotel was taken with Night mode turned off, using a 640x480 resolution. The next pic was taken with night mode turned on and resolution at 1280 x 1024. I'm fairly pleased but I think that I could still improve the quality.

Hope this helps.

Posted by: hoto-p

Quote:

Originally Posted by chris_c28

hoto-p, it doesn't work initially because my SSID was hidden. But I found it after all. Thanks.

sabesh, i havent found a valid workaround, but i think you can change your registry entries and make the IE Temp folder point to your storage card. Besides that just move all applications to the storage card. The memory management in WM5 reverts back to Smartphone 2002. Somehow, this memory issue caused Smart Explorer to recognise my OS as Smartphone 2002.

Have you managed to get MMS working? It's killing me. I've managed to actually receive the MMS notifications in the inbox from my wife, but the phone won't download the message. I've tried many different versions of GPRS Data Connections and MMSC settings (including/excluding the WAP server from the Connection, trying Secure vs. Non Secure connections, using standard GPRS Internet connection instead of WAP) but nothing works. Ideas?

Posted by: hoto-p

...the reason I brought up MMS in your memory thread is because sometimes when the phone is trying to download messages I get a memory error: Something like "Insufficient memory to download MMS Message. Remove some items from memory and try again"... I don't get that error all the time. It's inconsistent.

Posted by: Gator5000e

RF is not strong, I must admit. Even though the phone showed 4 bars, standing on a golf course, it would sometimes drop suddenly to two, but act like there was one or "no" bars...resulting in dropped calls or wouldn't dial out. Setting it beside my T616, the Sony would make a call but the Sp5m wouldn't in certain cases. Disappointing. Very very similar to the SMT5600.

Very disappointing about the RF! Was hoping for.some improvement orer the 5600. Is it bad enough to avoid the phone?

Posted by: hoto-p

If you liked the SMT5600 and could put up with it's limitations, this phone will definitely be a pleasant improvement. But it is not light years ahead in stability/RF/battery performance. In fact, I think parts of the SMT5600 might be cosidered more stylish than the SP5m. You will have to make your decision on it's added features, functionality and whether or not the styling is an improvement for you. For me however, WiFi, display quality, camera and imaging software, Music hotbuttons, industrial design along with WM5 made my decision for me. What's taken the shine off my initial excitement has been the ongoing quirkiness and seeming instability of the OS (Microsoft's hubris is staggering) and the fact that MMS is shamefully non functional. It is still the best phone I've ever owned. But as we all know so painfully, this is a subjective matter.

Posted by: Sgt_Strider

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoto-p

If you liked the SMT5600 and could put up with it's limitations, this phone will definitely be a pleasant improvement. But it is not light years ahead in stability/RF/battery performance. In fact, I think parts of the SMT5600 might be cosidered more stylish than the SP5m. You will have to make your decision on it's added features, functionality and whether or not the styling is an improvement for you. For me however, WiFi, display quality, camera and imaging software, Music hotbuttons, industrial design along with WM5 made my decision for me. What's taken the shine off my initial excitement has been the ongoing quirkiness and seeming instability of the OS (Microsoft's hubris is staggering) and the fact that MMS is shamefully non functional. It is still the best phone I've ever owned. But as we all know so painfully, this is a subjective matter.

MMS isn't an issue for me since I don't use it. I remember you said the booting up was slow, but how slow? How about after it boots up, is it still sluggish? Have you tried watching any movies on it? Is it actually watchable?

Also check your PM...

Posted by: hoto-p

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sgt_Strider

I remember you said the booting up was slow, but how slow? How about after it boots up, is it still sluggish? Have you tried watching any movies on it? Is it actually watchable?

Boot up time: 53 seconds

When the phone is in good coverage and has a full battery, the bootup time was measured from the second I pressed-and-released the power button to when the phone is completely usable and a call can be made. Coverage and battery strength will all impact this.

I have not watched anything other than videos I've recorded on the phone. I would personally not watch any video on this phone. My HP 4150 is as small as I will go.

Posted by: Sgt_Strider

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoto-p

Have you listened to any MP3's from the WMP?

Posted by: hoto-p

Yes I have listened to MP3s, but now for some reason the audio is louder in the right ear than in the left, not significantly so, but enough to be staggeringly annoying. I tried an old stero headset from my Voq and, same thing. Somethings messed with the audio. Extremely annoying considering this is a music phone. I've tried using PocketMusic player instead of WMP, but same thing happens. And there's no "Balance" to correct the problem.

Argh. I'm considering returning the phone over this and MMS.

Furthermore, the stereo headset as delivered basically falls out of your ear even with the gentle motion of walking. The earbuds are large and are made of slippery plastic. They do not stay in your ear even when they are dry, let alone if you are slightly perspiring.

Ok, I am beginning to get so frustrated over some of the shortcomings of this handset.

New problem: The speakerphone sounds great to me, but people I'm on the phone with hear a terrible roaring sound from my end, as though I'm in a strong wind...this is when I am sitting at my DESK at home in utter silence. I am sure that can be fixed with a firmware upgrade. But, man oh man. I dropped almost $600 canadian on this phone and it's starting to fray my nerves. A little echo cancellation would be welcome...

If you are thinking buying this handset, whatever you do: DON'T!

Posted by: Jay Raptor

I have the Qtek 8300 (SP5m's twin) and as far as I can tell the balance is perfect. So the balance problem may just be an I-mate/SP5m problem.

The stock headset isn't bad. I don't have the problem with them falling out, but I wish they were a little more comfortable. I've already ordered a 2.5mm-to-3.5mm adapter so I can use my regular headphones for listening to music/movies/etc...

As far as the speaker phone goes, again, I have not had any problems. Like hoto-p said, the sound from the speaker is good and I have not had anyone on the other end say anything about the way I sound. I'll check more into the speaker phone out-going sound quality tomorrow.

As everyone has said already, the screen is amazing! I did try watching a movie on it. I put it on full screen and for the first few minutes I didn't think I was going to enjoy it because of the small size. Fast-forward about 45 minutes and I was halfway through the movie before I realized it! So you do get used to the small size, at least I did. I'll admit, its not the best way to watch a movie, but this is a phone after all. The movie was Super Troopers (great movie) and I streamed it from Orb.com via Wi-Fi.

RF is much better than I expected. It’s on par with my Nokia 3230.

I've been satisfied with the functionality of the phone, everything seems to be working fine. It does get laggy sometimes, but my 3230 wasn't all that fast either. I'm still getting used to using Windows Mobile. For example, I received an email, viewed it, and then exited. Later I went back to view the email again and it was gone. It wasn't in any of the folders (delete, inbox, outbox, draft, sent). Where did it go?!?

Can't comment on MMS as I don't use it. I just use email to send pics or whatever.

BTW, hoto-p, I remember seeing your screen name from way back! Its cool seeing members from the early days of HoFo still hanging around.

Posted by: Sgt_Strider

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay Raptor

I have the Qtek 8300 (SP5m's twin) and as far as I can tell the balance is perfect. So the balance problem may just be an I-mate/SP5m problem.

The stock headset isn't bad. I don't have the problem with them falling out, but I wish they were a little more comfortable. I've already ordered a 2.5mm-to-3.5mm adapter so I can use my regular headphones for listening to music/movies/etc...

As far as the speaker phone goes, again, I have not had any problems. Like hoto-p said, the sound from the speaker is good and I have not had anyone on the other end say anything about the way I sound. I'll check more into the speaker phone out-going sound quality tomorrow.

As everyone has said already, the screen is amazing! I did try watching a movie on it. I put it on full screen and for the first few minutes I didn't think I was going to enjoy it because of the small size. Fast-forward about 45 minutes and I was halfway through the movie before I realized it! So you do get used to the small size, at least I did. I'll admit, its not the best way to watch a movie, but this is a phone after all. The movie was Super Troopers (great movie) and I streamed it from Orb.com via Wi-Fi.

RF is much better than I expected. It’s on par with my Nokia 3230.

I've been satisfied with the functionality of the phone, everything seems to be working fine. It does get laggy sometimes, but my 3230 wasn't all that fast either. I'm still getting used to using Windows Mobile. For example, I received an email, viewed it, and then exited. Later I went back to view the email again and it was gone. It wasn't in any of the folders (delete, inbox, outbox, draft, sent). Where did it go?!?

Can't comment on MMS as I don't use it. I just use email to send pics or whatever.

BTW, hoto-p, I remember seeing your screen name from way back! Its cool seeing members from the early days of HoFo still hanging around.

He joined one year after you..

I'm really eager to purchase the SP5, but there seems to be supply issues and some places are charging a bit too much for this phone.