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Posted by: Omega2008

What is the next MS Smartphone you are going to get?

HTC Tornado Class:
(aka Qtek 8300/8310, i-Mate SP5/SP5m, etc.)

- Riemma (music and business versions) with wi-fi
- Faraday (music and business versions) with out wi-fi

Motorola Q

- GSM version
- CDMA version

I personally will be getting the HTC Riemma business version (aka Qtek 8310).



Posted by: Ishimaru

the iMate SP5 is going to be my next phone in a few months i'll never buy another motorola phone again!!!



Posted by: boojew

Any word on when these will be available with a Canadian provider?



Posted by: chuckknight

Considering Motorola's history with smartphones, it sure isn't going to be the Q. I don't think I'll ever buy a Motorola phone, EVER. If that's what they think of their high-end customers, they'll be out of business soon.

I may wait and upgrade to a full PDA phone...my SMT does everything I need right now, but I'd be lying if I said wifi and a touchscreen/keyboard wouldn't be a welcome addition. Saw a nice pre-production one that was about the size of the SMT, but with a slide out QWERTY keyboard. Think it had a touchscreen, too...that would be sweet.

Probably be pretty expensive, though.

-- Chuck Knight



Posted by: Kid1972

HTC Wizard. Been waiting for this device since my first PDA.



Posted by: medenblik

My next MS smartphone will have wirless built-in as well as EDGE
so I am prob get the HTC RIEMMA, never heard of it but if it has WiFi then I will get it

What about EDGE?



Posted by: NooM

Where's the "Samsung SGH-i300" option?



Posted by: hylton

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kid1972
HTC Wizard. Been waiting for this device since my first PDA.


Ditto on that...the Wizard (no camera version) will be my next device...and I probably won't be buying another smartphone for awhile...so the voting options here don't really apply to me...unless my SMT5600 dies, I'll just keep using that, but if I had to vote, it'd be the QTEK 8310...since Cing is crippling the Faraday.

I won't be buying a contract phone anyway, so it really didn't matter what Cing did w/ the Faraday, the same phone w/ wifi can be purchased elsewhere once they are available.

Chris



Posted by: Kid1972

I haven't bought a phone from Cingular since a really old TDMA StarTAC. They just ruin a good thing.

My Wizard is ordered from MadMonkeyBoy already and I expect it within a week. I've been waiting for WiFi and a keyboard for a long, long time. I was just getting ready to buy the miniSD WiFi card for my MPx220 and decided to make the plunge. I'm sick of carrying my ipaq and MPx220 every place I go.

-K



Posted by: Holishi

Riemma music version for me. Somehow I think the music version looks better than the business version, but people seem to prefer business version.



Posted by: MrDSL

I thought the HTC Wizard was a Pocket PC?


I voted for the 8310 but I'm gonna hold out and make sure voicedial works through a BT Headset WITH the keypad locked.



Posted by: Omega2008

Quote:
Originally Posted by medenblik
My next MS smartphone will have wirless built-in as well as EDGE
so I am prob get the HTC RIEMMA, never heard of it but if it has WiFi then I will get it

What about EDGE?

The HTC Riemma is part of the Tornado class. So it has all the specs that you have come to know the HTC Tornado to have, so yes it has EDGE.

The HTC Wizard is a PPC not smartphone.

Cingular didn't cripple the Faraday, HTC made that version for carriers who don't want the Tornado with wi-fi hence the Riemma (with wi-fi) and the Faraday (without wi-fi)



Posted by: Kid1972

I'm fully aware of the fact that the Wizard is a PPC. But since the merging of smartphone and PPC OS to become Windows Mobile, it wouldn't be fair to remove them from the list especially since the size of the wizard is roughly the same size as the c500.

Cingular cripples *EVERYTHING* in some way. The way they crippled the MPx220 is a good example. Not much in the name of carrier branding but they crippled the registry enough to make anything good, impossible. They also cripple their crappy phones.

And don't even get me started on the subject of locking phones to the provider.


If the Wizard weren't coming, the Riemma would be it for me. But since owning the Nokia 6800 and 6820, I need a keyboard. Tack on that the web-browsing experience on a smartphone isn't close to a PPC, the PPC-based phones at any size are something to consider with all the extra features (pocket office, larger screen, etc).

-K



Posted by: nskgti23

Cingular doesn't cripple things half as much as Verizon does....



Quote:
Originally Posted by Kid1972
Cingular cripples *EVERYTHING* in some way. The way they crippled the MPx220 is a good example. Not much in the name of carrier branding but they crippled the registry enough to make anything good, impossible. They also cripple their crappy phones.




Posted by: Omega2008

Don't get my wrong I like PPC phones and I am considering the Wizard myself. I just didn't include any PPC phones because the topic was about smartphones, its not that I don't like them or anything.



Posted by: JDyn84

Damn, Cingular would HAVE to be carrying the Faraday version. Damn them Oh well EBAY here I come.



Posted by: Mark Larson

I personally will be getting the HTC Faraday music version (aka Qtek 8300).



Posted by: mkrygeri

It's Gotta be flip
gotta have WiFi
gotta have EDGE

As far as I know, there's nothing like that coming.
I'm pretty sad about the whole MPX300 thing



Posted by: Holishi

^
yep, mpx series are a disappointment,that's why motorola ended ODM contract with Chi Mei communication.

Hope HTC will come up a flip with wifi and edge.



Posted by: Ishimaru

yet there are so mant moto fanboys on this forum that would marry their mpx220 if they could. wake up and smell the crap kids; just because its the only "mediocre" flip smartphone, doesnt make it worth buying in any ways. i'd rather have a phone that works great, than stick with a mediocre phone because i like flips better. being cool a smartphone does not make! its the whole ipod philosophy, it looks cool, but is pure crap when u get right down to it, and there are tons better options out there; but what most people look at, is how cool it is. i swear people need to get out of this mindset as it's setting us back >.<



Posted by: cortez

took me 8 months to realize that i could get along without a flip, i finally decided i wanted a smartphone that works. oh yeah, i'll be getting the Wizard and the HTC Riemma business version, both of which should have Wifi.



Posted by: coronet

If I chicken out on the HTC Wizard, I will for sure get the HTC Riemma (Business). Although a pull-out keyboard and PDA function just sounds more appealing to me, I could just go for the Axim x51 + Riemma option.



Posted by: Omega2008

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I want the Wizard but 749 bucks (at MMB's store) is more than what I want to spend. When the price comes down I may get it. I am also not sure about the 200mhz processor it has i will wait until i hear some user feedback from my good friend cortez before i get it lol



Posted by: nskgti23

Especially since the price I hear floating around from the carriers is going to be closer to $300 w/ contract...

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I want the Wizard but 749 bucks (at MMB's store) is more than what I want to spend. When the price comes down I may get it. I am also not sure about the 200mhz processor it has i will wait until i hear some user feedback from my good friend cortez before i get it lol




Posted by: digi snacks

im thinkin i-mate JASJAR which is out now

or samsung i300

allthough i do like the imate sp5 wth wifi



Posted by: Omega2008

300 bucks with a 2 year I am sure, 400 with 1 year and 500 or more without a contract....thats still 200 bucks cheaper.

Note: the above is estimates, I am not saying that this is the final price that carriers will be using for this device.



Posted by: nskgti23

actually it would be 300 w/ 2 year, 350 w/ 1 year and 400 w/o contract

Or something along that line. But yes this is estimates...



Posted by: hylton

Does anybody have any guestimates on the price of the non-camera Wizard (w/o a contract). So far, haven't seen anything about this version of the Wizard, I personally have no need or interest in a camera, and it would be nice to not have it should I be prevented from entering any facilities due to the camera (although wifi could just as easily have the same issue)...

But, any info (including prices) on the avail. of the Wizard NC ? ? ?

Chris



Posted by: cortez

Quote:
Originally Posted by Omega2008
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I want the Wizard but 749 bucks (at MMB's store) is more than what I want to spend. When the price comes down I may get it. I am also not sure about the 200mhz processor it has i will wait until i hear some user feedback from my good friend cortez before i get it lol


if the Wizard comes out through Cingular, then its $0 dollars for me. wifey's has the SBC<->Cingular hookup and i'm gonna leverage that to the max! once i get my hands on it, i'll certainly provide feedback.



Posted by: dumwaldo

Quote:
Originally Posted by NooM
Where's the "Samsung SGH-i300" option?

omega seems to have a unique way of simply not noticing that samsung exists. this is the second poll where they were left out.



Posted by: Omega2008

Sorry about that.....I just forgot about it. No I don't have nothing against samsung, I like samsung.



Posted by: skippythenurse

Personally, I would like both the Riemma-business version and the Moto Q, but I could only pick one. I like the "crappy" moto phones because I have learned a lot about fixing things that were "FUBAR" to begin with. So bring on the Moto Q, let's see what else I can learn. As for the Riemma, well....I would like something that won't crash on me right when I put the sim card and the battery in.



Posted by: nskgti23

Quote:
Originally Posted by cortez
if the Wizard comes out through Cingular, then its $0 dollars for me. wifey's has the SBC<->Cingular hookup and i'm gonna leverage that to the max! once i get my hands on it, i'll certainly provide feedback.



Keep dreaming. My contacts at Microsoft are working to get the special pricing approved and they are looking at $200 for the devices.

But hey, if you can pull it off, more power to ya.



Posted by: Omega2008

Why would microsoft have anything to do with how much the device cost? Its not like they manufactured the device. Not only that but we don't even know if the device will be branded by HTC directly or picked up by another company and call it there own like Audiovox did with the SMT for the US.

If any special priceing was to come from this device it would be a agreement between the carrier and the manufacturer or the company thats branding it, not Micrsoft.

These are just my opinions don't quote me on it.



Posted by: nskgti23

MSFT gets VERY good pricing from Cingular for WM devices. The SMT5600 is something like $150 instead of $225 for normal customers. Plus they get much better data pricing.

SBC on the other hand has special pricing, but they don't get better pricing than MSFT on WM devices.



Posted by: Omega2008

Oh so your saying you can get the device thru Microsoft at a discount? I thought you were saying that Microsoft had control on how much a carrier or manufacturer sells the device.



Posted by: shackk

well i changed up my decision and just preordered a qtek 9100 from mmb......it just looks too good

ill post up a review on it vs. the mpx220 once i get it for all those who are thinkin about it.



Posted by: Omega2008

Spend that money!!! LOL



Posted by: nskgti23

Quote:
Originally Posted by Omega2008
Oh so your saying you can get the device thru Microsoft at a discount? I thought you were saying that Microsoft had control on how much a carrier or manufacturer sells the device.



Yes, Microsoft employees get very good discounts through the carriers (or at least Cingular) on WM devices... Better than even the largest companies.

Although MSFT is pretty big.



Posted by: cortez

Quote:
Originally Posted by nskgti23
Keep dreaming. My contacts at Microsoft are working to get the special pricing approved and they are looking at $200 for the devices.

But hey, if you can pull it off, more power to ya.


wifey came through on the MPx220 (and the 7 replacements that followed)...i'm looking for a repeat performance.



Posted by: shackk

Quote:
Originally Posted by Omega2008
Spend that money!!! LOL


Hey i have a budget and should have been over it by now...this should keep me happy for at least a little bit



Posted by: Omega2008

Quote:
Originally Posted by shackk
Hey i have a budget and should have been over it by now...this should keep me happy for at least a little bit

LOL....thats good. I am wanting this device too but I am going to wait and listen to the wisdom of all the people that bought the device and make a descion from there.



Posted by: shackk

Quote:
Originally Posted by Omega2008
LOL....thats good. I am wanting this device too but I am going to wait and listen to the wisdom of all the people that bought the device and make a descion from there.


Understandable and if i had any type of freakin patience I would to I will try to give you some insight as well once it comes. I watched the 7min video on the device and that exceeded my expectation on it, so decision made. I still like ppc phones over smartphones as well, but the sx66 killed that for a long while so I just hope that the 9100 doesn't do the same.



Posted by: integron

Anyone that buys a Motorola smartphone after that MPX220 fiasco will get what they deserve. People should boycott their products!

Oh yeah, I vote for the Wizard as well

Unless the HP hw6715 comes out some time this century, maybe it will change my mind...

J



Posted by: Ishimaru

this is what i keep trying to tell people!!! but no!!! people want "pretty" and don't give a **** about useability.



Posted by: chris_c28

I can hardly wait for the SP5 to be released. I want a new Smartphone now.



Posted by: integron

Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkJedi
this is what i keep trying to tell people!!! but no!!! people want "pretty" and don't give a **** about useability.


Don't get me started with Motorola! They must have a brilliant marketing team, because they managed to take a crappy phone, wrap it in aluminum, invent a new way to spell razor, and somehow got people to pay $500-600 for it. But it just goes to show you what most people actually want from a phone.



Posted by: paraklas

Quote:
Originally Posted by chris_c28
I can hardly wait for the SP5 to be released. I want a new Smartphone now.


Same goes for me. Reasons? Many!!

Anybody actually knows the release date and price?



Posted by: Ishimaru

Quote:
Originally Posted by integron
Don't get me started with Motorola! They must have a brilliant marketing team, because they managed to take a crappy phone, wrap it in aluminum, invent a new way to spell razor, and somehow got people to pay $500-600 for it. But it just goes to show you what most people actually want from a phone.


i don't know if u remember, but when the razr came out, it was close to a $1000 and still just as crappy. i really don't get what people see in moto phone once the actually use then. they're just garbage phones and the worse build quality of all time (not to mention the slow, outdated os that runs on every single one of their phones). a phone should not take 3-4 (or more) rom upgrades to make it even the slightest bit useable. that's pathetic. take HTC, their phones have maybe 1 rom upgrade if that; why? because they work out of the box, the way they're supposed to. if a phone has to be recalled twice, then released again, doesn't that make u think that the phone is crap? sure it looks good, but if u can't use the piece of crap, is it really worth it? i think not. and let's not even talk about the garbage dump that is the ROKR. moto needs to get their head out of their *** and start thinking about Quality Control and make better phones that WORK out of the box!!!



Posted by: integron

Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkJedi
and let's not even talk about the garbage dump that is the ROKR. moto needs to get their head out of their *** and start thinking about Quality Control and make better phones that WORK out of the box!!!


The ROKR has already been killed on various review sites. Let's see how the SLVR and PEBL turn out... probably more of the same. However, it seems mainstream consumers and Wall Street love these products, because their stock has surged the past several months.

People here always complain about cell phone companys not making the "perfect phone"... it's easy to see they have no incentive to do so, when you can make plenty of money selling mediocre phones that look good.

J



Posted by: shackk

Not only do they not have the incentive, look at the people who purchase these devices. They do not care what the phone does, it looks cool, it rings, it calls, and that is it. What a cell phone is mainly supposed to do, remember those days??! Anyway we are such a small part of the market that really pulls apart these devices and we have a certain expectation level of what a device really "should" do, or is it what we "expect" it to do. And if it doesn't then it gets a bad rap and everyone here hates it. Well when Moto or any corporation sells lets say 500k phones and 5-10k hate the device with a passion.......well lets just say the stock holders don't need to lose any sleep.

I agree when I purchase a device it should do what it not only is spec'd to do, but hopefully out perform my expectation level at the same time, but when such a tiny part of the market is affected, and the profit and sales say otherwise, and if your a stockholder....what would you be caring about?



Posted by: rosullivan04

Is the HTC Universal going to come in 850MHz flavor? All of them I can find on eBay are triband with 850 missing



Posted by: Omega2008

The Universal does not have the 850 band. Unless a carier over here wants to pick it up it won't have the 850 band. Well T-mobile could pick it up with no problems but Cingular couldn't.



Posted by: integron

Quote:
Originally Posted by rosullivan04
Is the HTC Universal going to come in 850MHz flavor? All of them I can find on eBay are triband with 850 missing


I was hoping it would be quad band, especially for the $1000-1200 price tag, but the only model i've seen is triband. Being a Cingular customer myself, that's why i have to give mine up this week

I'm gonna miss that VGA screen (((

J



Posted by: Ishimaru

the Universal IS coming to the US and WILL support 850 band. at least according to imate.



Posted by: one elite ace

HTC Tornado Business version (Faraday since thats what cingular will get most likely)... any word on release dates yet?



Posted by: Omega2008

Look for it some time in October.



Posted by: Holishi

looks like sp5 is purchasable now at expansys canada, will ship in 7 busniess days.



Posted by: garyinthehouse

Quote:
Originally Posted by shackk
Not only do they not have the incentive, look at the people who purchase these devices. They do not care what the phone does, it looks cool, it rings, it calls, and that is it. What a cell phone is mainly supposed to do, remember those days??! Anyway we are such a small part of the market that really pulls apart these devices and we have a certain expectation level of what a device really "should" do, or is it what we "expect" it to do. And if it doesn't then it gets a bad rap and everyone here hates it. Well when Moto or any corporation sells lets say 500k phones and 5-10k hate the device with a passion.......well lets just say the stock holders don't need to lose any sleep.

I agree when I purchase a device it should do what it not only is spec'd to do, but hopefully out perform my expectation level at the same time, but when such a tiny part of the market is affected, and the profit and sales say otherwise, and if your a stockholder....what would you be caring about?



I agree with you 100%.

WE are the ppl who ratify if their devices is good or crap. They should bend backwards just for us. But no, we get a new device that is released every ohh year to a year in a half (without the idea of a ROM upgrade), and they couldnt care less about us.

So is it their loss for them to release a bad product? Nope. They dont give a willy nilly about us, because we are such a small market share. They huff and puff us down

That, my friends, is good business, but bad customer share



Posted by: chopsu3i

me want tornado.



Posted by: garyinthehouse

me want wizard, but thats not a smartphone lol...its a pocketpc



Posted by: paraklas

SP5 but flawless in construction and bug-less in software... is there such a thing?



Posted by: Omega2008

Nope don't count on it. Not production models anyways.



Posted by: paraklas

At least flawless in production... Don't want the joystick to fail or paint to peel off like the sp3i.. or anything to fail in general



Posted by: Omega2008

don't count on it....there will be some kind of issue no matter what, either software and or hardware related. That's just the way it is. Hopefully more software than hardware since software problems are much easily remedied.



Posted by: freemz

Quote:
Originally Posted by Omega2008
Look for it some time in October.


Will Cingular carry the Riemma, or only the Faraday? If not, where do you suggest getting the Riemma in the USA?



Posted by: Omega2008

Cingular is carring the Faraday.



Posted by: freemz

Omega,
Where could one get Riemma in USA?



Posted by: Omega2008

lol what makes you think I know........Its not even out yet in the USA.



Posted by: freemz

....you seem to be the guru in these forums...thought you knew where they will be offered (once/if they are released in USA).



Posted by: dreamps

now why can't cingular release a phone with wifi is it because they're dumb.. no its beacuse they know if they release a phone with wifi they will loose clients in the media net. which is retarted. i hate cingular for that b/c they need to get the wizard. that would be nice. i need a phone/ppc with wifi from cingular. i hope something comes out thats gonna be better than the siemens sx66 or something that supports that mini sd wifi card. i love my mpx 220 it kicks *** soo much to do and customize. i would like wifi thats all.



Posted by: shackk

Quote:
Originally Posted by dreamps
now why can't cingular release a phone with wifi is it because they're dumb.. no its beacuse they know if they release a phone with wifi they will loose clients in the media net. which is retarted. i hate cingular for that b/c they need to get the wizard. that would be nice. i need a phone/ppc with wifi from cingular. i hope something comes out thats gonna be better than the siemens sx66 or something that supports that mini sd wifi card. i love my mpx 220 it kicks *** soo much to do and customize. i would like wifi thats all.


correct me if i am wrong but the sx66 (the one offered by cingular) does have wifi. i do not think it has anything to do with them and people using wifi vs. gprs. you will not have wifi everywhere you go, however with gprs you will have at least limited access to data. i only say limited because it is not as fast as wifi. so you will still need a data plan if you want your data everywhere that wifi isn't.

i believe there is a big cost difference when the wifi or other features are not kept in the devices which might offer a larger profit margin for the company on the front end. they are still covered on the back, i mean your still a subscriber right?...



Posted by: sracer

I can't see replacing my SMT-5600 any time soon, but the Riemma music version would be the one that could convince me.

Having gone to a smartphone I could NEVER go back to a PPC. I could never go back to the bulk and short battery life of PPCs (phone or not).



Posted by: ZeroPoint

Omega how are you so sure that cingular will be carring the Faraday? It seems to go against their whole UMA stratigy. Plus everything I've read shows that they will carry the Riemma.



Posted by: Omega2008

Quote:
Originally Posted by freemz
....you seem to be the guru in these forums...thought you knew where they will be offered (once/if they are released in USA).

Lol I know about the phones but I don't know who sells them or who will be selling them other than carriers. You will find them for sale at the usual places that sell WM Smartphones here in the US.



Posted by: Omega2008

Acording to my sources they will be carring the Faraday. Yet some of my sources say it will have wi-fi (which would make it the Riemma, not the Faraday) and others say it won't have wi-fi which is the Faraday. So acording to what I have seen, heard and learned Cingular will be carring the Faraday...if its released with wi-fi then its the Riemma but Cingular may still call it the Faraday because they are not all that bright......

So the question is will Cingulars version of the HTC Tornado have wi-fi....as of now yes, but hell if you know cingular then nothing is ever carved in stone with them. Cingular just could have the names mixed up....If I know anything knew I will let you guys know....I am hoping they get the Riemma.



Posted by: freemz

I hope so too. Thanks.



Posted by: ZeroPoint

yeah, that thing is just so damn sexy, essp. w/ wifi.



Posted by: [[ Cold ]]

riemma business edition for me

or a ppc, like the wizard, once the price goes down



Posted by: cellchamp

I am getting the i-mate SP5m from Dubai soon. Am i correct in assuming the following;

1) i-mate SP5m = HTC Riemma = Has Wi-FI

2) i-mate SP5 = HTC Faraday = NO Wi-FI

Is the only difference between SP5m and SP5 is wi-fi?

If yes then i am buying the SP5m.

But i don't see a music and business version for i-mate SP5m as discussed by some of you. Am i missing something here?

EDITED:
I think i was confused, both SP5 and SP5m have wi-fi.
Now which one is beter?? I need to make a decision soon.



Posted by: shackk

Quote:
Originally Posted by cellchamp
I am getting the i-mate SP5m from Dubai soon. Am i correct in assuming the following;

1) i-mate SP5m = HTC Riemma = Has Wi-FI

2) i-mate SP5 = HTC Faraday = NO Wi-FI

Is the only difference between SP5m and SP5 is wi-fi?

If yes then i am buying the SP5m.

But i don't see a music and business version for i-mate SP5m as discussed by some of you. Am i missing something here?

EDITED:
I think i was confused, both SP5 and SP5m have wi-fi.
Now which one is beter?? I need to make a decision soon.


Yes both the sp5/sp5m both have wifi. They are very similar phones with the exception of looks, one is geared to more mp3 playing etc., and the other to business. Both will do the same in terms of functionality.

It would be personal prefrence as to which one looks better to you. I personally like the sp5.



Posted by: sabesh

Quote:
Originally Posted by freemz
Omega,
Where could one get Riemma in USA?

October 23rd seems to be the latest release date. It's available at Expansys Canada:

http://www.expansys.ca/product.asp?code=124583

Cheers, Sabesh.



Posted by: cellchamp

Quote:
Originally Posted by shackk
Yes both the sp5/sp5m both have wifi. They are very similar phones with the exception of looks, one is geared to more mp3 playing etc., and the other to business. Both will do the same in terms of functionality.
It would be personal prefrence as to which one looks better to you. I personally like the sp5.


Thanks for your response.

I have order i-mate SP5m. I liked the all silver and did care for music buttons.

But if you look visit imate.com you will notice the following;

# i-mate SP5m - Processor/chipset: TI OMAP 850, 200MHz

# i-mate SP5 - Processor/chipset: TI OMAP 850, 200MHz + TI E-Syren

The SP5 processor has "TI E-Syren", what is it?

Does it make the SP5 hardware better than SP5m?

Also, i heard that with with Windows Mobile 5.0 microsoft will merge the PPC and Smartphone OS' which has not been done. What more can a PPC 5.0 can do which a Smartphone 5.0 lacks?



Posted by: huntman69

riemma business edition for me .
Hope it will SOON be avail.



Posted by: cellchamp

Friends i have got my i-mate SP5m (HTC Tornado) and been using it for past 2 days. It is much faster than MPx220 and the WiFi works like a charm.
Do let me know if any of you have a specific question, i will try ans answer.



Posted by: Omega2008

Well I finally got to play with the SP5 and its a nice phone but the keypad kills it for me....I have fat fingers and its just way to cramped for me. Not only that but the joystick something that I don't like......I guess I am used to the huge directional pad the MPx 220 has......Oh well I will be waiting for another device or I might just break down and get a SP5 in January.



Posted by: shackk

Quote:
Originally Posted by Omega2008
Well I finally got to play with the SP5 and its a nice phone but the keypad kills it for me....I have fat fingers and its just way to cramped for me. Not only that but the joystick something that I don't like......I guess I am used to the huge directional pad the MPx 220 has......Oh well I will be waiting for another device or I might just break down and get a SP5 in January.


Have you gotten a chance to try out a wizard yet? Just wondering how the smartphone os compares to the ppc os. (5.0)



Posted by: Omega2008

Nope haven't messed with the Wizard yet.



Posted by: shackk

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Originally Posted by Omega2008
Nope haven't messed with the Wizard yet.


Well since your in Tampa how about I fly down lets say mid February or so and you can try then



Posted by: Omega2008

lol hey if thats something you want to do I am all for it



Posted by: Holishi

Apparently we heard nothing but bad news and frustration toward Motorola Q GSM version, first the bad impression of Moto Q at CTIA show, and then Cingular Dropping the Motorola Q. I am quite curious of why Moto Q GSM still gets the most votes.



Posted by: chuckknight

Maybe because it looks cool to some people? Unfortunately, many will choose style over substance every time.

Thin, silver, and a keyboard. Aesthetically, a winning combination...if it wasn't a Moto.

-- Chuck Knight



Posted by: emar

does anyone know if these smartphones would have the bluetooth voice dailling working properly? unlike some other motorola phone I don't really care to say its name now



Posted by: NetGuyR

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Cingular doesn't cripple things half as much as Verizon does....


That's true. Come to T-Mobile where we're crippleless! ;-)





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