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Posted by: lilvanmuzz

sidekick up ota update

click there and click on updates or just go down... a photo for key guard and javscript...man.. i cant wait

Posted by: hatr3d

I wonder how long we will have to wait for that? That can't come soon enough!!!

Posted by: culppimp

awsome..i get my sidekick saturday and it hasnt been used in a month...how will i get the update if its already been sent out

Posted by: mpapple10

users at www.hiptop.com report that the OTA has started to roll out. Its only one user though but he has email proof that it is installed and running

Posted by: Chinasaur

FINALLY!!!!! There is some good functionality coming... enough to get us to 2003 or 2004 at the very least!!!

The "store phone book on SIM card" feature is always welcome..

Now here's hoping the OTA doesn't cause major glitches across the Globe ...

And actually..yes..I DO test software for a living..so I know what CAN happen

Posted by: StaceLuvaLuva

Was in the T-Mo store today and the re was talking to another rep and i over heard this. According to him everything should be done by the end of the month.

Posted by: terryjohnson16

Quote:

Originally Posted by StaceLuvaLuva

Was in the T-Mo store today and the re was talking to another rep and i over heard this. According to him everything should be done by the end of the month.

Just in time for the new special edition SK2 to come out, and take advantage of the OTA.

Posted by: SilverPenny

Head over to Hiptop.com/forums and check out the screen shots of the new OTA, boy are they a BEAUTY.

And, yes, only ONE person has received the OTA, and haven't heard about it anywhere else.

Posted by: lilvanmuzz

danger.please dish out those updates faster....... i want mine badly...im gunna die waiting..

Posted by: Scott

I wonder how long until they come to Canada?

Posted by: terryjohnson16

Quote:

Originally Posted by CellularCenter

I wonder how long until they come to Canada?

The Administrator on hiptop.com said that its only coming to T-Mobile as of now.

Posted by: hatr3d

http://help.sidekick.dngr.com/en-us...ktop/index.html

Go there are browse around. Shows all the new screens and what not. Looks kinda cool.

Posted by: rebirth534

yea looks good i wonder if u can say copy and paste text from websites such as if u view lyrics to a song can u copy them and then paste into ur notes

Posted by: jgeorge

Quote:

Originally Posted by rebirth534

yea looks good i wonder if u can say copy and paste text from websites such as if u view lyrics to a song can u copy them and then paste into ur notes

Yes, I believe that copying text from a web page will work in the new update.

Posted by: jgeorge

Quote:

Originally Posted by CellularCenter

I wonder how long until they come to Canada?

Tmo devices are currently running OS 2.0 - the US English version of the OS.

Fido devices are running OS 2.1 - the multi-locale version of OS 2.0 (supporting French for Canada).

Tmo devices are just now getting an upgrade to OS 2.3 - a US English-only version.

From that, one would presume that international devices like Fido and Tmo Germany and so on could expect an international version of 2.3 sometime in the near future.

IIRC the rollout of 2.1 was a couple of months after 2.0 hit the streets.

Joe

Posted by: theoneplaya139

this is so great, now i can use the gameday feature on mlb.com to keep me updated with the yankees score. yeah. go yanks!

Posted by: Scott

Interesting enough it also shows WAP browsing again although it says carrier dependant... It would be sweet if it came to Fido someday.

Posted by: lbronx3

i cant wait for the update.. has anyone received it here? Every Update is like having a new phone.. i cant wait to explore its capabilities

Posted by: mpapple10

i dont think anyone here has it, but now 2 people over at hiptop.com have it. Nothing was offically announced, but since someone else has it now maybe danger and tmo are sending it out

Posted by: lbronx3

i have a question... u think people with pre-paid tmobile sidekick 2 will receive the update also?

Posted by: terryjohnson16

Quote:

Originally Posted by lbronx3

i have a question... u think people with pre-paid tmobile sidekick 2 will receive the update also?

Yes, they will.

Posted by: mpapple10

hiptop forums have reported a new user recieving the OTA. Is tmobile sending it out now?

Posted by: terryjohnson16

Some people, I think only 2 have received the OTA. I think they put it on hold though.

Posted by: lbronx3

i wish i didnt know about the OTA cuz now i seem myself looking at my sidekick more often wondering if i have the prompt to update the phone

Posted by: negative

Below are a few of the changes on with the new update... I believe it was initially sent out to 1000 people, overall it usually takes about 2-3 motnths for everyone to get the update (thats how lon g it took the last time).... factors depend on coverage of course as well as how much time you spend on voice calls on the device... I beleive the update being sent out has been delayed anyways at least for another few days...

Lots of improvements to AIM

Web Browser

Client-side JavaScript support.
Improved load time and layout.
“Find” function on Web pages.
JavaScript on/off setting.
Text is now downloaded before images.
When on History screen, there is a menu item to “clear history”.
Select “All” Web page contents to paste in another application.
Improved support for color, fonts, borders, and background colors.
For Web pages that are too large to be displayed on the device, the user will see an “out of
memory” dialog box after the page stops loading.
Pop-ups that are not the result of a user selection are ignored.

Camera

Slideshow feature.
Rotate image.
D-pad navigates the gallery in four directions.
Different views: Full Screen, Thumbnails, List, Zoom In, Zoom Out, Actual Size

Email

Setting to download message headers only.
Multiple selection of messages in Browse Email screen.
Ability to create a new folder when setting up a new account.
Actionable inline links for URLs, email addresses, phone numbers
Menu + Cancel shortcut discards messages.

Posted by: terryjohnson16

Quote:

Originally Posted by lbronx3

i wish i didnt know about the OTA cuz now i seem myself looking at my sidekick more often wondering if i have the prompt to update the phone

wow. go to http://www.hiptop.com/forums/viewto...der=asc&start=0

Posted by: mpapple10

Tmobile has confirmed with me that the ota is now being delayed and there is no date yet for when it will begin to send out.

Posted by: terryjohnson16

I read that already in the hiptop.com forum, but thanks for filling everyone in.

Posted by: lbronx3

anyone has any news on the OTA? im guessing it must be released by October since the new T-Mobile Black Sidekick II named Mr. Cartoon its gonna include Javascript. so its gonna have the new OTA. You wouldnt think that they would release this new phone with the new javascript without us people with the regular Sidekick II having it?

Posted by: terryjohnson16

I think they should have released a SK3 instead to make use of the $399.99 new activation price. Something tells me that if a SK3 does come out, it won't be until Spring or summer of 2006.

Posted by: culppimp

i got my sidekick friday night it poped up with the promt to instal an OTA i was like dang i must be lucky or sumthin....come to find out it was 2.03 or something like that....so mow im paitiently waiting all the new features got me that hype

Posted by: lbronx3

u received the latest update? we still using ver. 2.0

Posted by: djayrage

Everyone should be on 2.03, 2.3 is the new OS that Danger is sending out...

Posted by: SouthStar019

for some reason i am stil on v2.0 and i got mine like 3 months ago.

Posted by: djayrage

Call tech support and they can send the 2.03 update (please double check if you don't have that, as everyone got that, unless you denied the update). They can send OTA updates to specific IMEI's

Posted by: theoneplaya139

when will the update hit nyc>?

Posted by: djayrage

Quote:

Originally Posted by theoneplaya139

when will the update hit nyc>?

Its completely random. You can get it in 5 minutes, or in 5 weeks, and it doesn't matter which market or location you are in.

Posted by: lbronx3

has the update still been delayed? any word on wen it will be sent out again? im patiently waiting.

Posted by: mpapple10

It has not yet gone out. The OTA server was running a stress test to see how many it could send out at once, and then it was stopped for an unknown reason. There is no time frame to when the OTA will begin to send out again.

Posted by: lbronx3

o0o... but i think that it will be released by the end of September.. cuz without this update they cant sell the Mr. Cartoon Sidekick II since they already annouced that it would have it. And people have received the OTA on this Forum as well as on Hiptop.com im guessing there is alot of other people that received it and we dont know about it. so i got my hopes up.

Posted by: mpapple10

users on hiptop forums reporting the the OTA has started to go out again as of Sept 20 after a 5 day delay. No further report of any users recieving the update, but it is supposed to be sending out slowly

Posted by: lbronx3

thats good news.. im happy to hear there.. have anybody noticed the AIM on the Sidekick II working slowly the past two days? i have a couple of friends with Sidekick II.. and wen we send each other IMs while being in the same room it takes longer than usual to receive the the IMs u think this has to do with the UPDATE?

Posted by: lbronx3

this is wat was posted on the hiptop forums.. dont know if its accurate.. but only time will tell. it was originally posted by FlyBabyBoy on Hiptop.com

T-Mobile OTA TIMELINE
Sept 14, 2005 (my bday) - OTA 2.3 released and was already given to a couple of people (approximately over 150)

Sept 15, 2005 - OTA 2.3 postponed to later date (subjecting to further adjustments)

NOTE: it was postponed for 5 days

Sept 20, 2005 - OTA 2.3 resumed after undergoing more tests and adjustments

It was never cancelled and everything is rolling out as it should be.

Posted by: theoneplaya139

thats good news, hopefully it can come to nyc first.hehe

Posted by: djkl407

Mine still says 2.0,im in FL...anyone got an idea?

Posted by: holdenmichael

Quote:

Originally Posted by djkl407

Mine still says 2.0,im in FL...anyone got an idea?

Same here.

The T-Mobile website only mentions release 2.0 when I log in.

I'll call CS tomorrow and let you know what I find out.

Posted by: bryanc

You kno wats funny, were gonna get this update and then like 3weeks down the line... were gonna want another update. lol --

Posted by: lbronx3

i will be alright with this UPDATE for a while.. im just anxious to see how AIM is gonna look and work.

Posted by: lbronx3

Does anyone know anyone that has received the update since Sunday? wondering if the OTA are being sent out or not.. Still Wondering....

Posted by: h16h

Um okay. I'm a newbie and I need help.

I got my sidekick on the 14th [sidekick II]... I checked my inbox just now and it says Thank you for installing the release 2.0.3 over the air update! Blah blah, when I checked the new features about buddy icons and key guard photo... I follow the directions and these new features are nowhere to be seen. Me is very confused, any help?

Posted by: terryjohnson16

Quote:

Originally Posted by h16h

Um okay. I'm a newbie and I need help.

I got my sidekick on the 14th [sidekick II]... I checked my inbox just now and it says Thank you for installing the release 2.0.3 over the air update! Blah blah, when I checked the new features about buddy icons and key guard photo... I follow the directions and these new features are nowhere to be seen. Me is very confused, any help?

The new update is 2.3, not 2.0.3. You still have the old version. Keep waiting.

Posted by: h16h

Thank you. <3

Posted by: MYcityfidoHAHA!

Im in Vancouver and I am dying for Javascript. I was about to return my hiptop2 because it didnt support it. Now, I wonder if I drive to an area where I pick up a T Mobile signal will I recieve the update? Or does it HAVE to come from Fido? Any techs out there who could answer this? I can easily find T Mobile coverage in a couple spots up here, and if the update just seeks out devices and sends the ota. then why wouldnt it work? Except I'd have to wait for it....email me................

jpcomtelvan@fidohiptop.ca

Posted by: MYcityfidoHAHA!

I guess its a tradeoff. Here in Canada we can get any ringtone we want by emailing it to ourselves and click on "save as ringtone" but in the U.S. T Mobile has disabled that feature. *evil carriers*

BUT.......we have to wait longer for updates damnit!!!!!!!

Posted by: ollywompus

Quote:

Originally Posted by MYcityfidoHAHA!

Im in Vancouver and I am dying for Javascript. I was about to return my hiptop2 because it didnt support it. Now, I wonder if I drive to an area where I pick up a T Mobile signal will I recieve the update? Or does it HAVE to come from Fido? Any techs out there who could answer this? I can easily find T Mobile coverage in a couple spots up here, and if the update just seeks out devices and sends the ota. then why wouldnt it work? Except I'd have to wait for it....email me................

jpcomtelvan@fidohiptop.ca

sorry yo, this won't work... it's done based on carrier.. even though you'd be roaming, you're not gonna get the udpate.

Lack of javascript was 75% of the reason I stopped using a sidekick... if this update comes out (and ESPECIALLY if T-Mobile will allow wap browsing), I'll be all over getting myself another one.

-olly

Posted by: rebirth534

the t mo rep said they would send it out to customers till the 23 then if it worked the rest of us will get it thats gayy what a wait a trial period and i wasnt the guniea pig lol ha

Posted by: lbronx3

lol.. true.. did they tell u wen they will be sending it out again after the 23rd if everything goes well?

Posted by: rebirth534

nah i would guess soon after well we have 1 more day to see if were one of the lucky ones

Posted by: lbronx3

yea.. cant wait for it

Posted by: culppimp

ugh!!! im gion crazy!!!! lol all my websites i go to mormaly have some sort of javascript i need the update!!!.....also anyone know if it will suport sites with frames??

Posted by: rebirth534

i cant wait ethier this is more anticipated them a 14 year old boy watign for the next 50 cent cd lol they better hurry i guess they ran a trial period and it was delayed then started up again and it ended on the 23 and if it was a good trial they will send to the rest of us

Posted by: lbronx3

another person reported getting the OTA over at HIPTOP.COM

Posted by: djkl407

how do you get it?

Posted by: lbronx3

it is sent to u at random

Posted by: lbronx3

i posted a thread about the OTA on the Tmobile Forum.. mabey we get some responce

Posted by: lbronx3

there hasnt been much movement lately about the OTA.. does anybody know if it has been delayed or if its still being sent out?

Posted by: rhoak

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilverPenny

Head over to Hiptop.com/forums and check out the screen shots of the new OTA, boy are they a BEAUTY.

And, yes, only ONE person has received the OTA, and haven't heard about it anywhere else.

I didn't see any screen shots.....where are they?

Posted by: boyd087

eh wait till then end of the weekend.. maybe something will happen tomorrow ...

Posted by: MarGarJr

Quote:

Originally Posted by rhoak

I didn't see any screen shots.....where are they?

http://www.hiptop.com/forums/viewto...r=asc&start=160

What do yall think, real of fake?

Posted by: djkl407

damn,if its real...Ima ***** at tmobile "WHERE's MY DAMN OTA UPDATE!?"

Posted by: mpapple10

Quote:

Originally Posted by djkl407

damn,if its real...Ima ***** at tmobile "WHERE's MY DAMN OTA UPDATE!?"

That is what alot of sidekick users are thinking. Tmobile is having network issues with the data system. That is possibly why it is taking longer to send out the ota.

Posted by: boyd087

Quote:

Originally Posted by mpapple10

That is what alot of sidekick users are thinking. Tmobile is having network issues with the data system. That is possibly why it is taking longer to send out the ota.

Umm I don't think so. Tmobile is still pilot testing their new OTA with just a few users. It has been released to around 1000 users I believe (which finished on sept. 23) and is now being evaluated again. If all goes well it should be released very shortly.

And those images are real.

And don't call T-mobile crying about where your OTA is. You will get it eventually but you have to wait like everyone else. You're not special.

Posted by: djayrage

We've waited over a year for this update, I think we can wait a few more weeks...

Posted by: IHZT15

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarGarJr

http://www.hiptop.com/forums/viewto...r=asc&start=160

What do yall think, real of fake?

damn, LOOKS REAL TO ME.....

Posted by: mpapple10

the admins on the hiptop board have unoffically said in that thread some people have recieved the update. Those pics are real.

Posted by: lbronx3

yea they are.. anyone know if the OTA is still delayed or has it been released?

Posted by: IHZT15

^^ yea im wondering the same thing......

Posted by: mpapple10

danger has acknowledged about 1000 users have recieved the update and that it will start going to all sidekick's soon. The amount of time it will take depends on who your carrier is and results of the stability of the os.

Posted by: djbigz

Is it possible on the sidekick 2, or will it be possible with the new update??

Posted by: djayrage

Quote:

Originally Posted by djbigz

Is it possible on the sidekick 2, or will it be possible with the new update??

Streaming audio/video wouldn't be posible. That would require a hardware upgrade as opposed to the OS update we should be receiving soon.
Also I think the only carrier that is getting the update is TMobile users. All Fido, Suncom, etc... users have to wait even longer.

Posted by: djbigz

Quote:

Originally Posted by djayrage

Streaming audio/video wouldn't be posible. That would require a hardware upgrade as opposed to the OS update we should be receiving soon.

Precaite that rage, how cool would that have been huh?? Atleast I will be able to check my gmail & bellsouth email accounts now!

Posted by: djayrage

The ability to stream audio is one of the reason why I will be picking up the HTC Wizard once it finally drops! Plus with bluetooth I should be able to connect it to my laptop and transmit live from any location with cell phone coverage!
Anyway, back to the original subject...
I want my damm update already LOL...

Posted by: rebirth534

there sending them out i asked i said at least 200 people a day he said thats peanuts lol i guess they send more then 200 a day there in regular rotation now they are sending them out we shoudl b receving them middle oct most of us should have em

Posted by: lbronx3

so Danger is sending them out 200 people a day? wen did they start releasing it? how long u think before we all get it?

Posted by: mpapple10

Quote:

Originally Posted by lbronx3

so Danger is sending them out 200 people a day? wen did they start releasing it? how long u think before we all get it?

Danger may be sending it out, but it still has not been offically released.

Posted by: lbronx3

this was a post on Hiptop.com can anyone verify this information? i can't since mines is Pre-paid.. can any sidekick user login to their accout and verify this information?

xvictOriouzx 3 posts
Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 3:07 pm Post subject: OTA Update

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When I was looking at my bill on T-mobile.com it said that all sidekick users will receive the updates January 2006. (I think the end of January) but thats what it says.

Posted by: boyd087

mine still says 2.0 from january 2005... sorry but they haven't officially released it yet...

hiptop forums have had a lot of users giving out BS info. One said his bill already said they were releasing it in october or something... if it shows up for one person it will show up for every user.

Posted by: broox

yeah i just logged into my account and it is only giving info on the last release (Jan 05). it seems like everyone has 'heard of' someone who has gotten the update but no one really has it or has seen it.

i hope, i hope it comes down, and comes down soon.

Posted by: lbronx3

yea i figured.. and i contacted Danger and they confirm the OTA 2.3 is being tested and have been sent to a about 1000 users..but they wount indicate wen it will be released or any ofther info..

Posted by: rebirth534

whats da latest news with this im gettin mad lool

Posted by: mpapple10

latest news is everyone is still waiting for danger and tmobile to announce that the update is rolling.

Posted by: boyd087

I'm thinking.... October 1st. NOTE: THIS IS NOT A FACT IT'S A GUESS
(Don't come crying to me when it's October 2nd and the OTA hasn't started rolling)

Posted by: SebasAk47

Yoo i Havent gotten No update i Got a Sidekick2 i herd the updates gnna happen around febuary

Posted by: mpapple10

Quote:

Originally Posted by SebasAk47

Yoo i Havent gotten No update i Got a Sidekick2 i herd the updates gnna happen around febuary

It will be here before febuary. The "beta test" of the OTA is already in progress and is about to be finished. Look for the update to be rolling no later than the end of october.

Posted by: terryjohnson16

Quote:

Originally Posted by mpapple10

It will be here before febuary. The "beta test" of the OTA is already in progress and is about to be finished. Look for the update to be rolling no later than the end of october.

What about the Special Edition Sidekick 2? and SK3 if that ever comes?

Posted by: lbronx3

I got it confirmed! I Spoke to a Tmobile rep about my friend's SKII .. It has radio problem.. And we asking for warranty.. So he asked us if we had v2.3 on the OS and we of course said no.. But then I asked him.. "Around wat time will the new update be released and to how many people?" his answer is that it has already been rolling out.. And that its being distributed at random to 4000 people a day. ... So look out..your SKII could be next.

Posted by: KrAzE00YoUnG

Uhh 4,000 people a day? that's so much. Anybody know approximately how many sidekick users there are total?

Posted by: boyd087

4000 people a day? that is a lot and your info is speculated... There is still no official word and reps are notorious for false info

Posted by: lbronx3

Sure.. So let put it to the test.. Cuz I spoke to a Danger Technical Support Represenative. Why don't u guys call T-Mobile Tech Support for the Sidekick II and see wat they tell you..

Posted by: Spcman03

any new updates? got kinda quiet in here

Posted by: phaserx

I called tmobile today and the rep told me he received a memo regarding the 2.3 OTA a few days ago.. He said that it has been rolled out to roughly 6,000 people total as a pilot launch to evaulate the product before they launch it across the country. He had no ETA to give me but mentioned the memo said an e-mail will be sent out when the OTA is available.

Posted by: mahool

if you call T-mobile Tech support will they send you an update for 2.3, or would you have to wait for it to hit your phone by random

Posted by: FlugPoP

Quote:

Originally Posted by mahool

if you call T-mobile Tech support will they send you an update for 2.3, or would you have to wait for it to hit your phone by random

Are you saying you had this done or are you makin that up?

IF you not lets see some proof like screen shots of your SK.

Posted by: mahool

if you call T-mobile Tech support will they send you an update for 2.3, or would you have to wait for it to hit your phone by random

Posted by: rebirth534

he asked it as a question then he said or do i have to wait

Posted by: rebirth534

im on the phone now he said 5000 weekly or daily depending on their on the server new browser no camera freezing buddy icons he said the browser speed with remian the same he said the new side kick will be realeased looks liek next year it shoudl have edge, and that the new ota we shoudl have it in the upcomming month he sounded liek he knew what was up

Posted by: terryjohnson16

Quote:

Originally Posted by rebirth534

im on the phone now he said 5000 weekly or daily depending on their on the server new browser no camera freezing buddy icons he said the browser speed with remian the same he said the new side kick will be realeased looks liek next year it shoudl have edge, and that the new ota we shoudl have it in the upcomming month he sounded liek he knew what was up

I would think that the Sidekick 3 should be released next year, since the Sidekick 2 is kinda getting boring and old now. It has been a year already since it was released. If they wait too long to release a new Sidekick model, then they might lose customers.

Posted by: jgeorge

T-Mobile reps have no way of forcing the new OS to your device. That's *all* handled by the Danger backend that T-Mo CSRs have *less* than no access to.

Joe

Posted by: FlugPoP

Quote:

Originally Posted by rebirth534

he asked it as a question then he said or do i have to wait

Yah my bad. I didn't see the question mark. Need to read more thoroughly next time

Posted by: rebirth534

nah flug pop its cool i wasnt tryin to be mean dont aplogise my man take care peace

Posted by: sithfish2

Just got my update today. It actually comes in two seperate updates and only takes a few minutes to install. Thank God I finally have javascript for web browsing!!!

Posted by: Chinasaur

You are teh suck

J/K

Soo..does it feel like it's slowed the device down? No change? Faster?

Any impressions you care to share?

Posted by: OwensStr8Clowni

Still no update for me IM WAITING ON IT. lol

Posted by: BIsABaller12

i got mine

Posted by: rebirth534

not me damm

Posted by: SouthStar019

t-mobile dude said they randomly send it to 5000 people a day. deammm is every one who didnt get they update keep stairing at their phone waiting for that update? hah

Posted by: FlugPoP

I wonder why 'MY T-Mobile" hasn't changed the thing that say January OTA?

Posted by: rebirth534

i know i been staring at my screen ha lol

Posted by: workaholic

its supposed to go on for about 3 weeks and i think we're 1 week into it....so some might have to wait 2 more weeks...sorry

Posted by: sithfish2

The phone runs about the same speed. Web browsing isn't any slower, but if you have javascript enabled it takes a little longer. The icons for aim are ok I suppose. Being able to aim screen names to the address book is a nice addition as well. I really like the active links in my e-mail. You can just click on them instead of scrolling down to the bottom of the message and searching for the right one.

Posted by: macfreak

If it really stopped the camera from freezing I'd be seriously psyched.

Posted by: ffiimo

Man what's up with the ota, just got off the phone with a friend of mine who is stationed in Iraq and has their sidekick with them and they got the ota early this morning

and yet I am still waiting for mine

Posted by: jgeorge

Quote:

Originally Posted by ffiimo

Man what's up with the ota, just got off the phone with a friend of mine who is stationed in Iraq and has their sidekick with them and they got the ota early this morning

and yet I am still waiting for mine

When they say the OTA goes out *randomly* believe it.

Though I think I'd hate to pay roaming charges to download an OTA... :shock:

Posted by: FlugPoP

Quote:

Originally Posted by jgeorge

When they say the OTA goes out *randomly* believe it.

Though I think I'd hate to pay roaming charges to download an OTA... :shock:

I thought the update would only happen when your on tmobiles network?

Posted by: jgeorge

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlugPoP

I thought the update would only happen when your on tmobiles network?

Not as far as I know. The first guy to post on ht.com that got the OTA was actually roaming on Suncom at the time he got it (which spawned no end of "Suncom getting the OTA" threads that were all just plain wrong).

Posted by: decuss

Quote:

Originally Posted by jgeorge

When they say the OTA goes out *randomly* believe it.

Though I think I'd hate to pay roaming charges to download an OTA... :shock:

if you have a pre-paid sim...is'int roaming free??

Posted by: rebirth534

anyone else get it im still wating i heard they were doing it in a 3 week process any one can confirm that if so looks like im watign to the last week lol

Posted by: SpiralSlash

Quote:

Originally Posted by decuss

if you have a pre-paid sim...is'int roaming free??

If you have a prepaid SIM, there is no roaming allowed.

Posted by: SouthStar019

how many sidekick2 users do u guys think tmobile has? tmobile is the only one getting this update for rite now correct?

Posted by: SilverPenny

Quote:

Originally Posted by ffiimo

Man what's up with the ota, just got off the phone with a friend of mine who is stationed in Iraq and has their sidekick with them and they got the ota early this morning

and yet I am still waiting for mine

Wow, didn't even know that the sidekick is supported all the way over there.

Knowing Iraq, he probably JUST got the OTA 1.1! w00t! It's great not having Saddam in charge, huh!

Silver

(I'm a total Bush-man)

Posted by: rebirth534

im starting to think this ota isnt true lol its been talked about for months and i still havent seen it

Posted by: peruytu

I got my SKII two weeks ago.. and is at 2.0. I'm wondering though, can't we just call Tmobile and demand that we get this damn update?

Posted by: rebirth534

from what i hear it cane be sent its automatic idk tho lol im gettin pissed lol

Posted by: mpapple10

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Originally Posted by peruytu

I got my SKII two weeks ago.. and is at 2.0. I'm wondering though, can't we just call Tmobile and demand that we get this damn update?

It is metered through danger so that the update system does not get overloaded. This system send out the updates at random. Calling tmobile will do nothing.

Posted by: djayrage

I received my update a couple of hours ago. So far I am really impressed....

Posted by: YOURDAD

does it just update automatically?!

Posted by: Spcman03

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Originally Posted by YOURDAD

does it just update automatically?!

It recieves the upgrade, then you click when to install it (immediately, in a few minutes, tomorrow).

it pop-ups when you get the update

Posted by: rebirth534

i met soem kid today who had his 2.3 for amoth crazy im watin seems liek alot more people are gettin it tho

Posted by: negronese

if i have my simcard with the sk plan in a diff phone and it sends the update to me.. will i still get it once i put the sim back in the sidekick? cuz my sidekick is currently half working so im using a diff phone..

Posted by: SouthStar019

deamm. i still didnt get it.

Posted by: b7rook1yn8

Just received a message from 907 stating OTA Ok

Posted by: rebirth534

im still wating this is wack

Posted by: rebirth534

OTA 068 9000 whats this mean my boy got it as a text

Posted by: mpapple10

T-Mobile is updating his sims roaming list. It has nothing to do with danger's OTA 2.3

Posted by: djayrage

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Originally Posted by negronese

if i have my simcard with the sk plan in a diff phone and it sends the update to me.. will i still get it once i put the sim back in the sidekick? cuz my sidekick is currently half working so im using a diff phone..

Your sk must be on and in the network to receive the OTA.

Posted by: rebirth534

thanks i guess were still wating lol i wonder who already has it

Posted by: rebirth534

i got a text message today thinkin it was the ota but it was a damm notice about the juicy and mr cartton sidekicks thats stupid

Posted by: SouthStar019

yea. aym still stairing at my SK hoping to get the OTA. how many more weeks left b4 they stop sending? or they dont stop till every SK has the UPDate?

Posted by: YOURDAD

yeah same here still waiting for mine

Posted by: Kabuk1

This whole "random" crap is grade-A BS. They should deliver it to the senior users first, the people who've had the SKII the longest. It's unfair that some kid who got his a week ago gets the update but someone like me- who bought the stupid thing the day it was released- is still waiting.

I think I might call Danger & give them a piece of my mind, this is really starting to piss me off.

Posted by: jgeorge

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Originally Posted by KabukiAssassin

This whole "random" crap is grade-A BS. They should deliver it to the senior users first, the people who've had the SKII the longest. It's unfair that some kid who got his a week ago gets the update but someone like me- who bought the stupid thing the day it was released- is still waiting.

I think I might call Danger & give them a piece of my mind, this is really starting to piss me off.

Before flaming Danger or anyone about this, consider what you're asking. Not that I'm disagreeing with what you *want*, I'd just like to ask you to consider how this might (or might not) be *done*.

The OTA server is *completely* IMEI based. The OTA server doesn't know *anything* about your device except for 4 pieces of information: IMEI, hiptop OS version, radio firmware version, and the last time that your device checked in with the OTA server. Doesn't know who you are, doesn't know where you are, doesn't know anything about you.

So you're a long time SK user. How should the servers know that about you?

1) Keep your purchase/IMEI history? That's a lot of work, database-wise, to make sure that you as a long-time user get your upgrade first. Feasible? Sure. Practical? Hardly.

2) Since devices are manufactured over time with reasonably-sequential IMEI numbers issued, send the OTA to the oldest online IMEIs first, guaranteeing that the old-heads get their OTA ahead of everyone else? Nice idea, looks good on paper, but doesn't take into account device replacements. If we all kept the original device we bought there might be some merit to this, but most ALL of us have had a device replacement or two somewhere along the line, and guess what, that process means that some old-heads are going to find up with VERY new IMEI devices, and that means that some newer users are going to get older IMEIs in refurb devices as replacements.

So, in order to really hold some weight when complaining that you deserve your OTA first, I'd really love to hear if you had some ideas on how this might be done.

Assigning the upgrades to random recently-checked-in IMEIs in the database serves several purposes:

a) It presumes a reasonably random rollout of the OS across the carrier network, so that one area or city doesn't get KILLED in bandwidth while the OS is pushed out;

b) It presumes that the active IMEIs in the database are active users and doesn't spend time trying to flag older offline devices as eligible for the OTA if they're not in use, broken, going through the refurb process, or sitting powered off in a drawer somewhere;

c) It presumes that the process is geniunely "fair" and doesn't play favorites ("Why should user X get the OTA before me? I'm older, longer-time user, prettier, richer, or more fly than him/her!") because the only basis for the OTA selection is a random selection of a non-user identifying bit iof information.

I agree with you that long time users should get first whack at an upgrade, if for no other reason than the longer time users would be better able and more willing to provide feedback as part of the "pioneer" rollout process. but there's no way I know of to be able to do this with the system as it's currently designed, and I can't see the system being redesigned (especially with any added level of complexity) considering that the process is only done once a year, twice at the most.

Joe

Posted by: SouthStar019

man up there wrote an essay. haha nicely done.

Posted by: scuzy

random is fine it's not about being fair. They're all customers you can't discriminate customers otherwise all hell will break loose. Perks maybe but upgrade i don't think so.

Posted by: Chinasaur

It is not only EASY to do..it is trivial to put out the update based on activation date. And there are numerous reasons WHY T-Mobile SHOULD do this. I work in Software test as my day job and we push out updates to our users on a quarterly basis. We can do it anyway we want. Geography, logon time, SW version, business unit, etc.

1. Activation date is as random as IMEI. If it's not..any clusters would hardly rise above the statistical noise level given the numbers updated per week. T-Mob cuts danger a file with IMEI and activation date. Danger sorts and uses this table. Next.

2. Senior users have invested more in T-Mobile than junior users. Keeping them happy, and around, is beneficial to both T-Mob and Danger.

3. Senior users have more "stick time" on the device and are more likely to recognize a fault condition (bug) vs a newbie who's had the device 24 hours.

4. Engendering good will with a newbie is wasted effort vs keeping a multi-year subscriber happy.

5. Senior users are more likely (assumption here) to use the device longer, and in more complete ways than a newbie. Thus, these users are more apt to spot problems.

6. If an IMEI is not active, it moves on..which I'm sure is the way the system does now. Specious argument.

7. So the system is not designed that way? We mod our backend processes on a weekly basis. So can Danger. Non issue.

All in all, no reason why they can't other than they don't want to. Danger doesn't care about users because they dont DEAL with us on a daily basis. So they don't care. Which, as any user who has had a SKII for more than a few months, already konws by how Danger has maintained it's network this year.

I wrote this during the March outage (http://hiptop.com/forums/viewtopic....6246&highlight= ). It doesn't take a rocket scientist to find where Danger can improve it's practices. But it seems to take an act of God to have Danger IMPROVE it's practices.

Posted by: Tanker-X

Bla Bla Bla...Just freaken wait. Everybody will have it eventually.

Posted by: imprezzivesti

i just got it!!!! right this second on my pre-paid skII

Posted by: djayrage

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Originally Posted by imprezzivesti

i just got it!!!! right this second on my pre-paid skII

Congrats! How do you like it? I'm really digging how much faster the web browser is, and in the few days I've had mine I haven't had one single browser time out so that's definitly cool.
Also evetything else seems to run smoother & faster as well.

Posted by: imprezzivesti

so far soo good

Posted by: rebirth534

imma be the last muthafu**** to get this

Posted by: decuss

mah boi just got his...i sampled it out for a while--like erbody's saying its like getting a new sk2...

Posted by: SebasAk47

i heard on the 2.3 Update you can put pictures from ur gallery as an icon on AIM

Posted by: djayrage

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Originally Posted by SebasAk47

i heard on the 2.3 Update you can put pictures from ur gallery as an icon on AIM

You heard correctly....

Posted by: SouthStar019

Not only that i didnt get this update thing. but i cant even connect to the data network. just 2 of them dots show up. same thing with my friend. any one experiences this problem? what can cause this? and no one that i know with the SK2 got the update yet. they should double to uploads per day to like 10,000 or some thing hah.

Posted by: djayrage

That means your not connected to the network. Could be any number of reasons, give it some time and you should be back with a "G" soon enough.
(Sometimes I'm stuck with the "2 ball dance" for hours at a time)....

Posted by: IHZT15

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Originally Posted by terryjohnson16

I think they should have released a SK3 instead to make use of the $399.99 new activation price. Something tells me that if a SK3 does come out, it won't be until Spring or summer of 2006.

MAN sop talkin about a damn sk3...........THERE IS NO SK3......AT LEAST NOT YET ANY WAY DAMMIT.........get over it

Posted by: SayanVegito

Ok so i got my update at like 330am last night and i got my SK less then a week ago. When i was getting my account activated the sales rep told the activation lady on the phone to make sure i get the available updates. All i know is that i got an update in under a week so perhaps calling tmo isnt 100% useless.... just a thought

Posted by: SouthStar019

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Originally Posted by SayanVegito

Ok so i got my update at like 330am last night and i got my SK less then a week ago. When i was getting my account activated the sales rep told the activation lady on the phone to make sure i get the available updates. All i know is that i got an update in under a week so perhaps calling tmo isnt 100% useless.... just a thought

u just had to rub it in dont u? hah

Posted by: rebirth534

im pissed i still dotn have this thing theres no way to speed it up i know that but damm i think this is all a myth any ones who has it take some screen shots

Posted by: Gutterpunk

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