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Posted by: rex5272

my bought me a 902sh and an 802sh for my sister a couple of Q's

1. can a unlocked version of the 902sh play mp3 (its going to be unlocked in the philippines)
2 can i use mp3s as ringtones?
3 can i take pics with the vga cam?
4 does any body have a sample pic of 902sh's camera quality?
5 what size does it need to be for my 902 pics to bee printed out (i.e. 3x2 4x5 5x5)
6 any body having problems with japanese version 902sh / 802sh???
thanks!!!



Posted by: AL9999

1. No
2. No
3. No
4. Search the forum (and Mobile-Review and Whatmobile forums), there are tons of sample photos.
5. If you want to print photos I'd suggest 1632x1224, as the cam quality is not the best.
6. Search the forum, look in the unlocking posts, you should see what problems users have had.



Posted by: challer

I have a Japanese Vodaphone 902SH, unlocked in Hong Kong:

The VGA camera works
It plays MP3s
Camera quality is poor in my opinion



Posted by: AL9999

Ok, I will clarify:

MP3s don't work. MP3s that are DRM encoded and changed to the SD-Audio standard (becoming Secure MP3s) will work, but require a specific card reader and SD Jukebox software. Also, your version has probably been hacked to play MP3s, as the hackers in Hong Kong are capable of making the phone able to do so. But normally, it's the situation as described above.

The internal camera (which is a CIF camera, not a VGA one) doesn't take photos. It works for video calls, but you can't use it to take photos.

Oh, and it's Vodafone, NOT Vodaphone. >_<



Posted by: rex5272

do i need to get it reflashed??? how can i make it play mp3s??? and u can make mp3s as ringtones???



Posted by: AL9999

Reflashing to the EU firmware will make it play MP3s in the music player, but the phone does not support MP3 ringtones no matter what firmware you use unfortunately.



Posted by: wyotin

If you flash the phone to euro firmware than you can play MP3.



Posted by: evilgabbie

SX813 1.03 / 1.02 firmware
902SH EURO Vodaphone
902SH EURO Ferrari ED.
or even
902SH JAP with EURO lang. pack

will do mp3 playback just not ringtones unless it's DRM through WAP or as some claims through BT/USB if done correctly



Posted by: rex5272

wtf is DRM???



Posted by: rex5272

so how can i listen to music on my fone and what are the ringtones u choose from???



Posted by: Timsta

digital rights management... u choose ur own ring tones.. to load up via wap. u can listen to regular mp3s all u do is put it on the phone..



Posted by: rex5272

AL9999 said u cant why?



Posted by: kms-lai

you can play mp3 on all version of 902sh, it depends on which firmware the phone has been flashed with (jap, euro, hk).

only the hk and euro f/w can play mp3.

jap version f/w will play only sd audio.



Posted by: AL9999

Quote:
Originally Posted by Timsta
digital rights management... u choose ur own ring tones.. to load up via wap. u can listen to regular mp3s all u do is put it on the phone..


Quote:
Originally Posted by kms-lai
you can play mp3 on all version of 902sh, it depends on which firmware the phone has been flashed with (jap, euro, hk).

only the hk and euro f/w can play mp3.

jap version f/w will play only sd audio.


Ok everyone, I'm even having trouble understanding your responses, no offense.

rex, the bottom line is that your phone can't play MP3s. Now wasn't that easy?

Seriously though, if you want it to play music you will either need to talk to someone who can change the phone's firmware to the European version, or you'll need to get the equipment needed to convert your MP3 files into the SD-Audio format, which the 902SH JP version is happy to play.



Posted by: Timsta

you domn't have to change it to the European version. You can also change it to Hong Kong firmware as well.



Posted by: rex5272

Quote:
Originally Posted by AL9999
Ok everyone, I'm even having trouble understanding your responses, no offense.

rex, the bottom line is that your phone can't play MP3s. Now wasn't that easy?

Seriously though, if you want it to play music you will either need to talk to someone who can change the phone's firmware to the European version, or you'll need to get the equipment needed to convert your MP3 files into the SD-Audio format, which the 902SH JP version is happy to play.



1 more question, whats SD-audio format??? how do i convert it???
and where can i get the movie converting thingy??? (i dont care if its mp3 , wav , wma or what ever just want to listen to my music) and ringtonessss.... any comments???

AL9999 thanks for ur help!!!



Posted by: AL9999

You need to buy it from Japan, because it consists of a hardware memory card reader (a Panasonic one) and the software (Mediastage or SD Jukebox) that accompanies it. That's why it's a pain to listen to music on the JP version.

I think the easiest thing is to just get the phone flashed to the European or Hong Kong firmware versions. Either one will do, and then MP3 files will work fine.



Posted by: k2bk2bk2b

u could try aac? otherwise known as mp4 format by itunes? coz japan 903 can listen to aac but not mp3....



Posted by: AL9999

902 doesn't support AAC files. Only the 903 does.



Posted by: k2bk2bk2b

ohh... too bad then.... :P prob better if can flash it to either uk or hk firmware....



Posted by: rex5272

Quote:
Originally Posted by AL9999
You need to buy it from Japan, because it consists of a hardware memory card reader (a Panasonic one) and the software (Mediastage or SD Jukebox) that accompanies it. That's why it's a pain to listen to music on the JP version.

I think the easiest thing is to just get the phone flashed to the European or Hong Kong firmware versions. Either one will do, and then MP3 files will work fine.


could you tell me what to buy? ( i dont know but i might send my 902 to cellularcorner.com (ebay listing) ) they said they could flash it to v1.44 in 1-3 days... what do u think? oh and same problem on 802? do i need my sisters 802 to be reflashed??? THANKS!



Posted by: rex5272

oK ringtones on 902..... what files can it play??? (wav , wma , mp3 , acc , mp4 ) pls tell me what to do THNX!!



Posted by: Timsta

mmf... mp3 in drm format...



Posted by: The Rex

just flash your phone.



Posted by: k2bk2bk2b

mmf is not mp3 in drm format :P



Posted by: rex5272

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Rex
just flash your phone.


i could but they say when u flash it the menu.phone gets slower......



Posted by: kms-lai

Quote:
Originally Posted by AL9999
You need to buy it from Japan, because it consists of a hardware memory card reader (a Panasonic one) and the software (Mediastage or SD Jukebox) that accompanies it. That's why it's a pain to listen to music on the JP version.

I think the easiest thing is to just get the phone flashed to the European or Hong Kong firmware versions. Either one will do, and then MP3 files will work fine.



You can buy the sd jukebox program and the panasonic card reader, from hk, us and even the uk, you can also get it from ebay. some panasonic mp3 players with external slot for sd cards, or the supplied card reader that comes with some mp3 players can also be used with the sd jukebox.

if someone wants a list of card reader and supported mp3 player, that is compatible with the sd jukebox, PM me.



Posted by: Timsta

seriously.. at such a short clip of 20 secs and less for mp3 ringtones... are you really gonna notice the difference between mmf and mp3.. they almost sound the exact same.



Posted by: rex5272

can i make 10 secs and more mmf files??? and how do i "cut" ringtones

i only want like 40 sec of a 5 min song...



Posted by: kms-lai

mp3 splitter for mp3, or psm player for mmf, there are more programs out there, that does the same thing.



Posted by: Timsta

yup. hey kms. i got it today. thanks man!



Posted by: kms-lai

timsta. Any use for it.

just waiting for mauvanilla, to see if he's got his.



Posted by: Timsta

yup. for my 903sh. thanks man. it's gonna be useful.

any news on your side about the unlocking process on the jap phones?



Posted by: kms-lai

no. it's kinda quite, just waiting for the release, same info that i gave you.



Posted by: rex5272

im kinda confused...... so here is the easiest way i could ask for it.
if i have a unlocked 902sh what would be the easiest way to listen to music? no matter wat format (wav mp3 etc) . whats the easiest way to get ringtones (wht format?)



Posted by: kms-lai

Flash your phone with euro or hk f/w. and use mp3, copy direct to sd card.

for ringtone, download using 3G or gprs. over the air mp3 and mmf.



Posted by: rex5272

i dont want it to get flashed (basically)
how can i download ringtones? (what site can i upload them to?)



Posted by: rex5272

just got my 902sh and 802sh they play mp3s no prob. my problem now is ringtones. whats the easiest way?

ill post some pics soon





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