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get a 6102 or a razr???

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Posted by: tkdjrod

can you guys help me out? i had a nokia 6170b..like it..but i like the razr disign and heard it a solid phone...so razr or a nokia 6102?? thanks in advance



Posted by: mochachip

razr........



Posted by: neils

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razr is nice but the nokia has more features it could come down to if you want a flip or a bar



Posted by: tkdjrod

the 6102 is a flip too



Posted by: Rcadden

I think more it comes down to whether or not you need Bluetooth. The 6102 is a nice phone, save for the stupid miniscule charger jack. But the menus are nice, and you can assign functions to the d-pad, and it's got a decent camera, but no bluetooth is the main difference between that and the RAZR. I'd go with the Nokia, but I'm a fanboy, I'll admit.



Posted by: JDScott302

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razr is nice but the nokia has more features it could come down to if you want a flip or a bar


Dude, the nokia doesnt even have bluetooth.



Posted by: quillhill

I would buy the 6102. And use it as a backup phone.



Posted by: Jakes

They are both nice phones... I would choose the RAZR just because of Bluetooth.



Posted by: cellgeek101

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Originally Posted by Rcadden
I think more it comes down to whether or not you need Bluetooth. The 6102 is a nice phone, save for the stupid miniscule charger jack. But the menus are nice, and you can assign functions to the d-pad, and it's got a decent camera, but no bluetooth is the main difference between that and the RAZR. I'd go with the Nokia, but I'm a fanboy, I'll admit.



I agree. Bluetooth is what it comes down to. Although the Nokia 6102 does have a higher RF that the RAZR, both phones seem to perform very well overall.



Posted by: triple5soul8781

id go with the nokia..im not a "fanboy" or anything but i used one for the first time today and it feels lolid and look sVERY nice..nicer than the razr with its gloss black housing...



Posted by: dodgerx88

The RAZR is a piece of crap. Like buying an Chevy or a Ford. It just looks cool, in pictures, but everything about the phone sucks once you have it in your hand.



Posted by: tkdjrod

i dont use bluetooth..ill prolly go with 6102..nokia got me when i used the 6230..then wanted a flip and got the 6170 and loved it. one question..how bad is the volume on the phone?..thats all i hear about iT?



Posted by: quillhill

I played with a 6101 about a week ago in a T-Mo store and really liked it. In terms of volume, are you talking about earpiece or ringer? As I recall, the ringers were quite loud and the vibrate was very strong. I couldn't make test calls on it as it was a demo unit. Yes, I went into a T-Mo store. I am a serious phone junkie.
It's a hot little Nokia and I never thought I'd say 'hot' and 'Nokia' in the same sentence in my life. Heh. Like I said, I would use it. But, I've gotten attached to BT, otherwise it could be a primary phone for me.



Posted by: tkdjrod

thanks i wss talking about the call volume



Posted by: mochachip

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Originally Posted by tkdjrod
i dont use bluetooth..ill prolly go with 6102..nokia got me when i used the 6230..then wanted a flip and got the 6170 and loved it. one question..how bad is the volume on the phone?..thats all i hear about iT?



I have a brand new one in my room waiting to be shipped back to letstalk. The volume is terrible on the phone. You can hardly hear it ring when other things are going on and when you're talking on the phone. Motorola phones are buggy, but one thing is for sure the v551 is MUCH louder speaker and ringer. Buy the 6102 at your own risk. I have other issues with it, but the greatest was definitely the volume. I could get past the cheap feel and lack of bluetooth, but the volume was way too low. I had to ask everyone I talked to to repeat themselves.



Posted by: mbranscum

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Originally Posted by mochachip
I have a brand new one in my room waiting to be shipped back to letstalk. The volume is terrible on the phone. You can hardly hear it ring when other things are going on and when you're talking on the phone. Motorola phones are buggy, but one thing is for sure the v551 is MUCH louder speaker and ringer. Buy the 6102 at your own risk. I have other issues with it, but the greatest was definitely the volume. I could get past the cheap feel and lack of bluetooth, but the volume was way too low. I had to ask everyone I talked to to repeat themselves.


I've read several of your posts in the forum about this phone being bad. You may have a defective unit. Volume is fine on mine. Just as good as my 6230.



Posted by: eimajuno

I vote V3. IMO is a better phone, easier to pocket, bullit proof reception. When it comes to rf, the v3 beats any phone handsdown.



Posted by: BWD

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Originally Posted by eimajuno
I vote V3. IMO is a better phone, easier to pocket, bullit proof reception. When it comes to rf, the v3 beats any phone handsdown.



Although the rf on the v3 is pretty good, I have to totally disagree that the v3 beats ANY phone handsdown. I know it doesn't beat a nokia 6010 and I don't feel it beats the 6102 either. I've carried both and the Nokia's have always held on to calls where the V3 broke up or dropped the call.

Also I've personally carried the 6102 for 2 weeks and sold several dozen of them to customers. No one has complained about the earpiece volume or ringer volume. I don't understand all these people saying the eapriece volume is too low?



Posted by: eimajuno

The features in the V3 are better than the features in the 6102. One major gripe that I have about the 6102 is the keys are too small. I have big hands and even on the dummy that I have in my store, I still have trouble hitting the buttons. I love both of my V3s, I would never trade them in for a series 40 Nokia phone. The V3 is my favorite non smartphone that I own.



Posted by: dodgerx88

I hated my V3 so off to eBay it went.

The keys were unresponsive and the microphone was crappy. People would complain about feedback when i was talking to them through speakerphone because the loudspeaker was right near the mic.

The phone book is pretty lousy. It creates an entry for each number you have for a contact.

The battery life was pretty crappy too. I was only getting two days of standby.

This phone looks real cool in pictures. OOh, real "THIN"...bunch of BS. The phone is huge when opened, like 4 inches wide and 10 inches loing.

It's basically the reincarnation of the startac/timeport thingies.



Posted by: mochachip

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It creates an entry for each number you have for a contact.

Welcome to motorola



Posted by: mbranscum

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Originally Posted by BWD
Also I've personally carried the 6102 for 2 weeks and sold several dozen of them to customers. No one has complained about the earpiece volume or ringer volume. I don't understand all these people saying the eapriece volume is too low?


What I've been saying all along!



Posted by: dodgerx88

the RAZR earpiece isn't exactly loud either



Posted by: bodeh6

Sony Ericsson Z520a Quad Band is coming. Bluetooth, No EDGE, 16MB of space, MP3/AAC ringtones, Speakerphone, SE UI. I was going to get the 6102 but now that the Z520 should be coming, that is the phone to get. I have no problems with reception with my T637 which had better reception then the V551.



Posted by: davistld01

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Originally Posted by dodgerx88
I hated my V3 so off to eBay it went.

The keys were unresponsive and the microphone was crappy. People would complain about feedback when i was talking to them through speakerphone because the loudspeaker was right near the mic.

The phone book is pretty lousy. It creates an entry for each number you have for a contact.

The battery life was pretty crappy too. I was only getting two days of standby.

This phone looks real cool in pictures. OOh, real "THIN"...bunch of BS. The phone is huge when opened, like 4 inches wide and 10 inches loing.

It's basically the reincarnation of the startac/timeport thingies.


Seems whenever there is a "Nokia or Motorola" thread, especially anything that even mentions the Razr, all the Nokia fans come out to flame the phone like it's the Antichrist or something . Personally, I like my V3 although it's certainly not the most feature-rich phone in existance by a long shot. It is a thin, lightweight but well built, great performing phone with some features I like: big & bright screen, great RF, decent battery life, and Bluetooth. It's not a phone for everybody. I personally prefer a flip phone, so the candybar shape and the general boring nature of Nokia phones have kept me in the Motorola camp. The 6102 appears to be a good effort by Nokia to capture the glory in the North American market that Motorola has had for so long now, but the thing that keeps me away is this: no Bluetooth. Why Nokia didn't include this feature when it worked so well in their 6230 is beyond me. But, it that's not important to you...and you prefer the Nokia interface, smaller screen, and general Nokia-ish layout of the 6102...go for it. The main deal is to buy a phone that has the most of what you want in it. Just because one person says the phone is junk, or is the greatest thing in the world since pockets on a shirt is not enough to base a decision on.



Posted by: CeluGeek

From these two I have to vote V3. First because of the Bluetooth. Even if you don't think Bluetooth is necessary, once you use it, you won't want to be without it. Also, phones with protruding antennas are sooo yesterday.



Posted by: SonyStyle

V3, Ive had a black one, then i sold it, for profit, and then i sold my s710a, cause i wanted something smaller, so now, i will keep a silver razr, until i buy a razr 2



Posted by: zmarius

I'd go w/ the razr just for the bluetooth, I've gotten so used to the bluetooth that I must have it... though if I had no choice, I'd take the 6102 over most other non-bluetooth phones, it's got some good features.





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