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Posted by: Apocalypso

Its official :: Sony Ericsson P990

Sony Ericsson emphasised its continued commitment to Symbian OS today with the announcement of its next generation smartphone to the global development community. The P990 will be the first commercially available smartphone to adopt the enhanced Symbian OS version 9.1 and UIQ 3 software platform. This flagship UMTS smartphone is Wi-Fi enabled, has a 2 megapixel camera with autofocus and features a new hardware keyboard beneath the flip-down keypad. The phone will start shipping during Q1 of 2006

The P990 is the next in a line of successful Sony Ericsson smartphones - the P800, P900 and P910 – and is based on the same proven concept and recognisable form factor. All have been popular with users, operators and software....

Read more, photos, etc:
Its official :: Sony Ericsson P990 - full story & photos

Sincerely yours,
Dennis ft. Apoc

Posted by: Apocalypso

Its official :: Sony Ericsson P990

Posted by: Apocalypso

Upsssssssss, sorry guys, wrong section

Posted by: artesea

I've noticed that there isn't a 990a 850mhz version just yet.

Posted by: Apocalypso

And few real photos...
http://www.symbian-freak.com/forum/...p?p=14714#14714

Posted by: artesea

The full spec is on the Sony Ericsson site
http://www.sonyericsson.com/spg.jsp...m=pp1&pid=10336

Posted by: FuzzyClam

Was the p910a announced at the same time? I'm guessing that since UMTS ain't happening in the US for awhile, they skipped us for now. EDGE/900 is interesting though. Why EDGE/900 and UMTS?

Nice looking phone. Still can look like a phone when you want it to. You can all go bezerk about the pad on the phone, but the fact of the matter is that is what the market is demanding (Treo, HP's new PPC phones, etc.), especially in the US.

Fingers crossed on an 850 version. And WiFi, cool.

paul

Posted by: planetmac1

Is there a $$ yet and will this work on t-Mobile in U.S.?

Posted by: alpha tag

Quote:

great... which means u got lots and lots of time to save up...

and no 850 for those in the americas = not really caring about the high-end market here still... ah well, what can we do?

Posted by: xynos

No details on CPU. Hope they won't put a lame slow CPU, which Symbian devices tend to do..

Posted by: Crossblade

Continue Reading on PhoneArena.com

Quote:

Sony Ericsson announced their latest smartphone operating on Symbian OS - the P990. It features 2.8 inch touch QVGA display and 2-megapixel camera. Operating on GSM and UMTS networks, it features Bluetooth and Wi-Fi for local connectivity...

Continue Reading on PhoneArena.com

SE P990 Complete Specification

Posted by: omegajb

Why did they put the keyboard on the phone instead of the flip? Will that mean you won't be able to take the flip off?

Posted by: artesea

the sony ericsson website says you can remove the flip (plus pictures to prove)

Posted by: xtacy1869

Flip is removeable, just thumboard is built into base. And im using a P910i on T-Mo in the US, so without the 850 you should be able to get away with it. Although many are going to wait for that 850 version.

Posted by: shockdaddyd

Lightly used P910a for sale.

Posted by: K-Dash

i will take this anyday, over the KJAM!

Posted by: jayesh

Quote:

Originally Posted by K-Dash

i will take this anyday, over the KJAM!

i was going over the specs... is edge in there?

Posted by: ollywompus

lol, it's still symbian....

...and that is an ugly mofo of a smartphone...

...plus no EDGE (though of course a later N. American version could have it).

-olly

Posted by: tankee531

No blackberry

Posted by: jayesh

blackberry is there..... if im not mistaken it does mention push email on the se website

Posted by: Mr Pink57

Quote:

Originally Posted by jayesh

i was going over the specs... is edge in there?

Has no edge, since its not really for "America" they support UMTS on the other side of the pond aka 3G.

pink

Posted by: FuzzyClam

UMTS - E-GSM 900, GSM 1800, GSM 1900 and UMTS 2100

Isn't "enhanced" GSM 900 just EDGE @ 900Mhz instead of what NA calls EDGE (@ 850Mhz)? Normal UMTS is 2100Mhz. Either way, it's not for NA. Never heard of E-GSM on 900Mhz before.

Posted by: AdmiralAK

e-GSM does not mean EDGE

EGSM has existed since before EDGE

Posted by: dvdmike

only 2 mp what a let down so sale here its ugly im sticking to my a1000 for utms symbian

Posted by: AdmiralAK

2MP is fine for me - I just wanted quadband + UMTS - like the A1010

Posted by: mobilezen

I guess this phone will be good to use some time at the end of next year when 3G kicks into effect in the U.S., otherwise for us 850mhz people, no luck.

Posted by: angel_wing0

damn 2 mp camera with auto focus, ms duo pro (as i have a 1 gb one already), touchscreen with wifi...thats my NEXT phone! (hmm..sorry N91 i want the touch screen with wifi

)

(wrong section!

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doesnt look like there will be a north american version thou..else they would have announce it~

Posted by: baygins

I still cannot get over the fact that SE's top of the line business model phone (current P800, 900, 910) cannot sync between a PIM's folders/categories and the phone's folders.
Do you think SE's product managers will have realized, by now, that they really need to provide this "simple" function to their users?
You think the P990 will finally have this feature in its PCSuite application? Or, maybe they will go back to the XTNDConnect application that used to work so well in the T68 days.
I am just hoping

Posted by: ollywompus

Wirelessly posted (Nokia6620/2.0 (2.14.1) SymbianOS/7.0s Series60/2.1 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.0)

Quote:

Originally Posted by angel_wing0

damn 2 mp camera with auto focus, ms duo pro (as i have a 1 gb one already), touchscreen with wifi...thats my NEXT phone! (hmm..sorry N91 i want the touch screen with wifi

)

(wrong section!

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doesnt look like there will be a north american version thou..else they would have announce it~

Not necessarily angel.. Sometimes we get ours later.. Like the 6680 first, 6682/81 later. I would've considered this, but edge is a deal breaker for me, even with wifi. -olly

Posted by: xynos

Anyone knows how the screen works? Its 320x240 but the keyboard seems to be a permanent feature, so how does it display the full QVGA?

Posted by: praz

Quote:

Originally Posted by angel_wing0

damn 2 mp camera with auto focus, ms duo pro (as i have a 1 gb one already), touchscreen with wifi...thats my NEXT phone! (hmm..sorry N91 i want the touch screen with wifi

)

(wrong section!

)

doesnt look like there will be a north american version thou..else they would have announce it~

every new phone which comes out u want it dont u ?

Posted by: ollywompus

Quote:

Originally Posted by mobilezen

I guess this phone will be good to use some time at the end of next year when 3G kicks into effect in the U.S., otherwise for us 850mhz people, no luck.

not going to work on US UMTS... we are implementing on a different band than the rest of the world (as usual), so any UMTS phone for Europe won't work on U.S. UMTS frequencies (they use 2100mhz UMTS, Cingular is 1900mhz UMTS).

No EDGE SUCKS! I would be all over this badboy (even though it's kinda ugly in my opinion), if it had included EDGE.

Hopefully a N. American version will have EDGE included.

-olly

Posted by: xynos

If only it has a built in GPS... I loved my P910A, was the best device I ever had, but the CPU speed sucks and apps.. Does anyone know if the present apps could run on the new UIQ 3 with Symbian 9?

Posted by: Bratan

I have a feeling that there will be a P990a that will have EDGE instead of UMTS. It only makes sense to include a huge smartphone market like North America.

Posted by: ollywompus

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bratan

I have a feeling that there will be a P990a that will have EDGE instead of UMTS. It only makes sense to include a huge smartphone market like North America.

lol, problem is that what makes sense and what actually happen rarely seem to be in line with each other.

but I hope you are right!

@xynos: from what I've read, some apps will, some won't. UIQ 3 breaks with the API tha was used in UIQ 2.1 (p910), and Symbian 9.1 doesn't make it any easier.

The problem with program compatibility in this situation is that you are dealing with a.) a new OS rev, and b.) a new UI rev. So you have to program for both. But i'm sure that most major vendors are already getting their butts in gear to update for UIQ 3.

-olly

Posted by: xynos

Quote:

Originally Posted by ollywompus

*Groan* That's what I'm afraid of. When I jumped on WM5, I have the most difficult time getting apps working. I guess I'll wait for a while before jumping on 990

Posted by: alpha tag

Quote:

Originally Posted by zykur

Why did they put the keyboard on the phone instead of the flip? Will that mean you won't be able to take the flip off?

u could always, even with the older models

Posted by: macfan01

Well, that's really nice, but could we also upgrade the P910 to Symbian 9.1 and UIQ 3. Because for the time being, the P910 is sufficiant for me.

Posted by: ollywompus

Quote:

Originally Posted by xynos

*Groan* That's what I'm afraid of. When I jumped on WM5, I have the most difficult time getting apps working. I guess I'll wait for a while before jumping on 990

Hopefully it won't be that bad, consider this from the symbian.com website:

Quote:

To ensure a large proportion of applications are available on the new Symbian and UIQ software platform when the P990 goes on sale, Sony Ericsson has decided to announce the smartphone well in advance of availability so that developers have time to create and certify as many applications as possible:

Sony Ericsson:
“The technical prowess of the P990 will be brought to full life by applications from the third party developer community,” said Jan Wäreby, Executive Vice President and Head of Sales and Marketing. “Demand for applications on the P800, P900 and P910 has been very high. Our smartphones have been recognised as the most advanced and useful on the market, and we want to maintain this reputation with the P990 by ensuring there’s a rich supply of top applications for enterprise, productivity, leisure and gaming when users make their first visit to the Sony Ericsson Application Shop.”

(here's the link) http://www.symbian.com/news/cn/2005/cn20053156.html

Don't give up on compatiblity!

Still can't get over the EDGE thing though...

-olly

Posted by: elfguy

This device uses a proprietary Sony memory stick technology. Again, Sony is trying to push its own proprietary technology everywhere. No thanks.

Posted by: elfguy

Again, Sony pushes its own incompatible proprietary technology. They could have used MMC or SD memory sticks but no they had to reinvent the wheel.

Posted by: eimajuno

Finally some real pics of it. I think the production model looks better than the pics that are floating around the net a few months ago. I just wish that it was a different color than silver. Black would have been nice.

Posted by: carsmovies

No 850 version announced again. Why not a quadband version for such a high end phone. Bad bad SE.

Posted by: xynos

Hrmph, still a USB 1.0 connectivity for synching! Read the preview of the 990 here:
http://www.infosyncworld.com/news/n/6217.html

Posted by: bilbo__baggins

Wow, this thing looks great. I owned a Treo 600 and the one thing I really did like was the keyboard on the device itself rather than on a flimsy flip. As a mac user, this device looks as close to perfect as I can wish for at this time. The PDA2k put me off Windows Mobile phones for a long long time. Can't wait for the P990 to become available. I will most certainly be willing to pay a premium for this device.

That is, unless Apple announce something even better on Wednesday.

Ha, that really is dreaming...

Posted by: xynos

madonna iPhone? Why would Apple come up with the ROKR with Moto if it wanted to make its own cellies?

Posted by: zaslek

shady is all i have to say :-P http://cgi.ebay.com/30-Sony-Ericsso...1QQcmdZViewItem

Posted by: xynos

Quote:

Originally Posted by zaslek

shady is all i have to say :-P http://cgi.ebay.com/30-Sony-Ericsso...1QQcmdZViewItem

Pre-production?

Posted by: angel_wing0

Quote:

Originally Posted by elfguy

Again, Sony pushes its own incompatible proprietary technology. They could have used MMC or SD memory sticks but no they had to reinvent the wheel.

why would they? they need to earn money on their own ms duo pros

Posted by: maq28

For sure hijacked account .Look at the other compleated auctions diff e-mail addy . I'm sure we will see many scams before the phone is released for sale .

Posted by: bigmike20

can you imagine using Skype on this phone over WIFI in order to skip the operator network and not pay for those minutes and data.

Posted by: Arne Anka

Quote:

Originally Posted by xynos

Hrmph, still a USB 1.0 connectivity for synching! Read the preview of the 990 here:
http://www.infosyncworld.com/news/n/6217.html

That's a typo. It should be USB 2.0 (even SE site saus so). USB 1.0 transfere rate is way below 12 Mbps.

Posted by: angel_wing0

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigmike20

can you imagine using Skype on this phone over WIFI in order to skip the operator network and not pay for those minutes and data.

that would rule...but doesnt that count towards data still?!

Posted by: carsmovies

Quote:

Originally Posted by angel_wing0

that would rule...but doesnt that count towards data still?!

Not if the wifi connection is free.

Posted by: angel_wing0

Quote:

Originally Posted by carsmovies

Not if the wifi connection is free.

oh true damn...i wonder why the operators are not complaining about the wifi already...(what about our GPRS/EDGE?

)

Posted by: carsmovies

Quote:

Originally Posted by angel_wing0

oh true damn...i wonder why the operators are not complaining about the wifi already...(what about our GPRS/EDGE?

)

Cause it's not really not so wide spread in North America, especially free.

Posted by: ollywompus

Quote:

Originally Posted by elfguy

This device uses a proprietary Sony memory stick technology. Again, Sony is trying to push its own proprietary technology everywhere. No thanks.

no different than the stupid DV RS-MMC that Nokia foisted off on us with the 668x and 6630 series.

-olly

Posted by: Amit Govind

just a question
is the screen smaller because the keypad is on the fone rather than on the flip out thing?

Posted by: starkisttunalov

I like it (features) and hate it (the looks)

hence I might get it depending on price

Posted by: L Bo

Both threads have been merged into one and stuck.

Unfortunately, I see myself purchasing this unit even though the qwerty keyboard is still too small for my big fingers. Lots of pros and cons to get it, but hey, what can I do? I need the latest and greatest. If by chance we can find out of version of BBC it has, that would be great!!

Posted by: Haisook

How much would this cost at release? I was just going to buy the P910i when I read this article.. damn. Should I wait for it?

Posted by: AdmiralAK

L Bo, get me one too - birthday is coming up

Posted by: ollywompus

Quote:

Originally Posted by Haisook

How much would this cost at release? I was just going to buy the P910i when I read this article.. damn. Should I wait for it?

if past p9 releases have been any indication, i'm betting on about 850-1k for the price range at release...

...anyone care to make a wager on it?

-olly

Posted by: shaolinmonk

http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=105981

some nice pics here... looks very usable...

Posted by: L Bo

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdmiralAK

L Bo, get me one too - birthday is coming up

Sure thing AK, you want the brick dummy or my empty box?

Posted by: cmc0

L Bo,

Long time. I guess your back with T-Mobile! Still talking to LeVar

But back on topic., this P990, look wise, it's pretty good ,but does anyone know since the resolution is changing, will the current Pxxx apps be compatible with the P990?

Boy, I remember the good days, when I paid $1500 for one of the first P800's, and $900 for the P900, but with the P910, SE really dropped the ball, and the Treo has suited me well. Waiting to see how this stacks up and whether I should make the switch back to UIQ

Posted by: Haisook

Actually, I don't think I'd greatly need the 2 MP camera -- just a personal opinion. This damn thing would raise the price uselessly.

Posted by: GotRice

My Next SE P series phone!!!!

The camera function looks sweet.

http://www.uploadit.org/gallery/13879/

Posted by: sdsviet

hey from looking at the infosync pics. the left side looks like it has a hold button on there. i wonder wat it would be use for. it'd be great if that is the screen lock button cuz it'd be so much quicker that way. anyone has a pic out there with the landscaping mode with the browser?

Posted by: sdsviet

oh man i just saw the landscape mode. its looks amazing. that's wat i've been waiting for. yea lets hope there's a 850band coming out.

Posted by: Mr Pink57

http://www.sonyericsson.com/spg.jsp...=10336&esi=true

here are some pics from SE's site.

http://www.sonyericsson.com/spg.jsp...pc3_1&prid=3982

also the article at SE, and looks like it is on display in London at the Smartphone Show 2005 in the ExCeL Centre.

Looks like there is an "i" and "c" verison of the phone.

pink

Posted by: Mr Pink57

Quote:

Originally Posted by L Bo

Both threads have been merged into one and stuck.

L Bo,

I dont know how you can complain about he keyboard when you use a 7100t! But I am sure you do not use the 7100t all the time... have you thought about getting the 7105t?

pink

Posted by: canadian studen

This phone looks sick I just wish it was a WM smartphone. But I've owned the 900 and 910i, and one thing i can say about them is that Symbion and UIQ works and it works well. But i wonder if Fido will carry this phone? They carried the last three. I guess we'll have to see. But as for prices they have charged $1000 no term, $950 no term new activation, $850 with term. These are in canadian dollors to. So it's not that bad. It looks like they added the most important features WI FI, 2mp cam, BACK LIT KEY BOARD, but most importantly the new os. So I think this will be a good phone to compete with the rest of them. But the only one that I think that has the advantage right now is the k-jam, jas jar, and the motorola q wgich will be ready in december. We will have to wait and see though.

Posted by: tankee531

doesn't seem to have any 2.5mm stereo headphone jack?

Posted by: tankee531

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Pink57

http://www.sonyericsson.com/spg.jsp...=10336&esi=true

here are some pics from SE's site.

http://www.sonyericsson.com/spg.jsp...pc3_1&prid=3982

also the article at SE, and looks like it is on display in London at the Smartphone Show 2005 in the ExCeL Centre.

Looks like there is an "i" and "c" verison of the phone.

pink

* P990i Dual mode UMTS (2100MHz) - GPRS 900/1800/1900 for Europe, Asia Pacific, Middle East, Africa

* P990c Dual mode UMTS (2100MHz) - GPRS 900/1800/1900 for Mainland China. Launch for mainland China dependant on availability of 3G services.

* The P990 will be available in 4 hardware keyboard variants: QWERTY, QWERTZ, AZERTY and Russian

Posted by: sikbluemx3

OOOOOOOOOHHHH MY GOOODNESSS !!!!!

Finally ! Did I just read WLAN, 2 Mpixel, GPRS, and an actual usefull keyboard.

I'm getting one 3 months after its out.

Posted by: jayesh

heh though its off context u might wanna hit the nokia forum and check out what nokia just launched the e series ... talk about serious competition

Posted by: shockdaddyd

Quote:

Originally Posted by jayesh

heh though its off context u might wanna hit the nokia forum and check out what nokia just launched the e series ... talk about serious competition

Yeah, but who wants a Nokia?

Posted by: fijbert

this phone looks pretty interesting
glad they didnt do a small stupid upgrade like they did from the P900-P910

when/if I get my hands on a prototype of it, I'll give a review... (which will be like a few weeks before production units are available)

Posted by: xynos

I don't consider them as competition. They're based on the Series 60, and have no touch screen.

Posted by: tankee531

Quote:

Originally Posted by xynos

I don't consider them as competition. They're based on the Series 60, and have no touch screen.

agreed with you

Posted by: Prom1

L Bo; love your site! True HYPE Dogg!

Glad this device is waiting a few months before release; I also hope that SE gives an incentive and personal attentitive help to aspiring or established coders wether Java/C++ and an environment to code. I prefer this device over all the E-series Nokia's.

This gives me enough time to buy the Apple iMac G5, Nano iPod and Video iPod for XMas and this device just before March Break.

I too also hope for Fido to carry this puppy.

Posted by: xynos

I'm quite hyped on the 990, but unfortunately my fiancee made me promise to keep my current devices for a year!!! Something to do with spending thousands on devices...

Posted by: tankee531

if lucky, you may just need to top up less than a thousand if you sell your current device

Posted by: L Bo

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Pink57

L Bo,

I dont know how you can complain about he keyboard when you use a 7100t! But I am sure you do not use the 7100t all the time... have you thought about getting the 7105t?

pink

Hey if I can get a free 7105t, then I'll take it. Its not that serious for me to buy another phone that has the same guts. I'd rather get a replacement keypad if possible.

Posted by: refnulf

I'm going crazy and it's still going to be months till the p990i is out. Looks good, and very professional. The keyboard will be very useful this time and the new additions are just going to make the phone even better.

I mean, the p910i is superb. The p990i is just going to be out of this world.

Posted by: Chr1sny

Awesome phone...too bad no edge or else i'd get this.

Posted by: Haisook

I'm gonna get the P910i by the end of this month.. and I'll get the P990i once it hits the $540 price tag.. How much would it cost at release, do you think ?

Posted by: AdmiralAK

I wonder if they will come out with a P990a with 850/1900/1800 EDGE + 1900 UMTS since Cingular officially announced their UMTS coverage

Posted by: dogenia

Anybody know if it would work with the P910i docking station and car brackets. I really like the P910i for these features. I love the fact that I can have the phone standing up and handy at all times either in the office or in the car.

Other than that I really think the radio feature will come in handy as well and that USB recognition of the memory card is a dream come true.

Posted by: cmc0

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AdmiralAK

I wonder if they will come out with a P990a with 850/1900/1800 EDGE + 1900 UMTS since Cingular officially announced their UMTS coverage

I doubt it. When the 910 was announced, both the P910i and a were announced at the same time. if there is a P990a,why wasn't it announced with the I and c versions?

Posted by: cmc0

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dogenia

Anybody know if it would work with the P910i docking station and car brackets. I really like the P910i for these features. I love the fact that I can have the phone standing up and handy at all times either in the office or in the car.

Other than that I really think the radio feature will come in handy as well and that USB recognition of the memory card is a dream come true.

Nope from the pictures the 990 obviously uses the new se universal connector port found on the k750 so accesories such as chargers or cable for older se's won't work

Posted by: dtemplar

Am I the only one's that bothered by the smaller screen (compared to the old P900/P910)? I love big screens because games/MS Office apps/web browser.

Posted by: bilbo__baggins

Screen resolution is all that matters. At long as the resolution is high, I'm happy with a small screen as hopefully it will tend to keep the device size smaller. Having the querty keys below the screen should make it much easier to hold while typing (with both thumbs).

Posted by: boston_errol

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdmiralAK

I wonder if they will come out with a P990a with 850/1900/1800 EDGE + 1900 UMTS since Cingular officially announced their UMTS coverage

That will be awesome. This phone is truly a dream phone.

Posted by: angel_wing0

i still dont think there will be 850...if there s they will announce it on the spot. My next phone for sure~

is the keyboard removeable?! i wouldnt mind having those extra screen space...

Posted by: angel_wing0

nm..just found out that even with the keyboard, the p990 will start have a bigger screen than p910...amazing!

Posted by: alpha tag

Quote:

Originally Posted by angel_wing0

nm..just found out that even with the keyboard, the p990 will start have a bigger screen than p910...amazing!

sorry buddy, i saw the physical comparison
it does have a smaller screen physically, but pixel count is higher

http://www.mobile-review.com/review...n-p990-en.shtml

Posted by: sdsviet

the screen is pretty much the same. its is shorter than the p910 in length but its wider than the p910 width. so overall its about the same.

Posted by: tankee531

Part 2 of the review is out ! focus is on UIQ 3.0

http://www.mobile-review.com/review...0part2-en.shtml

Posted by: dtemplar

Well I perfer the screen to be a little larger because I do a lot of web browsing/messaging/emailing/reading PDFs on my P910. I wanted to see more but I don't want to read my messages with a microscope. Plus games looks beautiful on a larger screen.

Posted by: pdajah

@dtemplar, remember the P990 is a convergent device. Specialised devices, like the PSP and Palm's LifeDrive, will always be better. As soon as SE brings out a new Smartphone the specialist devices also get better! I have for a while used a Smartphone and a separate PDA as massive data storage and a large screen are important for me (I use a Palm LifeDrive). I also have a I-Mate JasJar, this has a large screen, keyboard, 3G etc but it has very little storage capacity. I know in about 6 months 4GB memory cards will be common therefore my requirements may be met by the JJ. But I suspect I will get a P990 as well as it is so compact and therefore ideal for weekends (JJ for the week, for business).

Posted by: khmerfirexxx

When is the 990 supposed to be released to the public for sale?

Posted by: tankee531

1Q 2006 long way to go

Posted by: Prom1

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdmiralAK

I wonder if they will come out with a P990a with 850/1900/1800 EDGE + 1900 UMTS since Cingular officially announced their UMTS coverage

Well its becoming a little more possible since Rogers also announced UMTS+HSDPA Nationwide by mid 2006; and their existing contract for GSM/GPRS/EDGE was all done with Ericsson. Now their 3G is an early renewal of 3G with Ericsson as well. If Rogers & Cingular get together to demand an 850/1800/1900Mhz P990a from SE, and IF Ericsson works in tandem with SE (Ericsson has recently sold cellular platforms to SE;and in the past to other mobile players like Panasonic, Siemens, Sanyo) ..... well we can hope. And the more we talk about it in various threads on various sites B4 it meets FCC then we got a fighting chance.

L Bo love your site; can you PM me the name of the track that plays on the opening of your site, brah?!!

Posted by: AdsP800

WAIT!!

Ive been holding on to my P800 waiting and waiting for this phone! Only problem is SE always seem to have Australia last on the release list. (P800 and P900 were not available here at least 6 months after their US release)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Haisook

How much would this cost at release? I was just going to buy the P910i when I read this article.. damn. Should I wait for it?

Posted by: AllGlobaltk

any dates of this thing coming out?

Posted by: mobilezen

Quote:

Originally Posted by AllGlobaltk

any dates of this thing coming out?

Yes Q1 of 2006

Posted by: kw8e

Quote:

Originally Posted by canadian studen

This phone looks sick I just wish it was a WM smartphone. But I've owned the 900 and 910i, and one thing i can say about them is that Symbion and UIQ works and it works well. But i wonder if Fido will carry this phone? They carried the last three. I guess we'll have to see. But as for prices they have charged $1000 no term, $950 no term new activation, $850 with term. These are in canadian dollors to. So it's not that bad. It looks like they added the most important features WI FI, 2mp cam, BACK LIT KEY BOARD, but most importantly the new os. So I think this will be a good phone to compete with the rest of them. But the only one that I think that has the advantage right now is the k-jam, jas jar, and the motorola q wgich will be ready in december. We will have to wait and see though.

What advantages do the kjam and jasjar have over the p990? I think the p990 will blow them away (2mp camera, numberpad, and 3g).

Posted by: mobilezen

Quote:

Originally Posted by kw8e

What advantages do the kjam and jasjar have over the p990? I think the p990 will blow them away (2mp camera, numberpad, and 3g).

Kjam and jasjar run windows mobile 5.0...bigger following, more programs. Not many people use their cameras as most would think. Its an accessory, not a necessity. 3G? well the P990 only supports UMTS 2100...worthless for the U.S. at least.

Posted by: Prom1

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Originally Posted by mobilezen

Camera is no longer just an accessory, there my friend. If you decided to buy the K750i then you'd know this not gestimate this. I had thought so on the accessory until today and saw first hand. The quality is incredible! But its the built in thumb style keyboard and being a Phone 1st that has the windows mobile system - no matter the version - beat hands down.

Furthermore its not the amount of applications, but the quality of them along with its compatibility with existing systems. The P990i will have support for BlackBerry push email, along with another 5 Industry alternatives; much more that just MS' own version. MS mobile I feel is a lot better than their desktop systems with integrating applications from them that dont seem to loose their way, but its still strange. Symbian, whether its UIQ or Series60 is years ahead especially now with OS 9.1a with application installation security to rid of of virii.

Posted by: mobilezen

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Originally Posted by Prom1

necessity: # the condition of being essential or indispensable
# anything indispensable; "food and shelter are necessities of life"; "the essentials of the good life"; "allow farmers to buy their requirements under favorable conditions"; "a place where the requisites of water fuel and fodder can be obtained"

accessory: # clothing that is worn or carried, but not part of your main clothing
# a supplementary component that improves capability
# furnishing added support; "an ancillary pump"; "an adjuvant discipline to forms of mysticism"; "The mind and emotions are auxiliary to each other"
# someone who helps another person commit a crime

there is a big difference between both. Read the definitions per google. An accessory is something you want to have, not what you need. A necessity is like water and air. There is a difference. you don't NEED a camera everyday, its just good to have. Read your first sentence cause it doesn't make sense. Also, as for quanity vs quality...I do prefer quality, however with more options and more developers working on MS products, to me its a no brainer.

Posted by: Prom1

Quote:

Originally Posted by mobilezen

accessory: # clothing that is worn or carried, but not part of your main clothing
# a supplementary component that improves capability
# furnishing added support; "an ancillary pump"; "an adjuvant discipline to forms of mysticism"; "The mind and emotions are auxiliary to each other"
# someone who helps another person commit a crime

there is a big difference between both. Read the definitions per google. An accessory is something you want to have, not what you need. A necessity is like water and air. There is a difference. you don't NEED a camera everyday, its just good to have. Read your first sentence cause it doesn't make sense. Also, as for quanity vs quality...I do prefer quality, however with more options and more developers working on MS products, to me its a no brainer.

Ok I can see your point for MS products, but I dont prefer them although its hard not to use them, at least this day & age. But thats all about personal preferance.

If your gonna give me a lesson on what is an accessory & what isnt you should choose your definitions very carefully. "accessory: # clothing that is worn or carried, but not part of your main clothing" >> I'm not sure where you live, but with culture aside and laws aside, when winter comes along I'm sure many would day daily when -30 degrees celcius shows up for more than a few hours. Non of us humans has enough hair on our skin; not even the extreme rare cases of a minute few that are truly covered 100% of skin in thick hair - like the two brothers in South America in the circus. Also about the mind and emotions being auxilliary to one another, one cannot survive a sane life without emotions, its an integral part of whom a person is and what makes us truely unique.

Posted by: mobilezen

Like I said, accessories are not a necessity. no one walks around thinking "Did I leave my camera at home?" while going to the market. Enough said, back on topic...

Posted by: RB 1(uk)

Quick question about the P990, does anyone know weather it will be able to run the tomtom mobile 5 satnav software? before i invest in it for my P910. Cheers

Posted by: uh_oh_itz_meee

i want this phone.... haha..

Posted by: L Bo

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prom1

L Bo love your site; can you PM me the name of the track that plays on the opening of your site, brah?!!

Thanks! Not my site, but the teams site. There are several songs within the two sub sites. Which one are you referring to?

Posted by: BillB

Quote:

Originally Posted by RB 1(uk)

Quick question about the P990, does anyone know weather it will be able to run the tomtom mobile 5 satnav software? before i invest in it for my P910. Cheers

From what I understand, it is unlikely that any software for the P910 could work on the P990. The OS is changing from the P910 to the P990, and all software written for the "P" series phones must be changed/re-compiled/ported/whatever-you-call-it for the P990.

In other words, if you buy software now for your P910, and if you want to use it on a P990 in the future, you should try to learn about the developer's upgrade policy before you buy it.

Posted by: sdsviet

hey i just found out that the p990 is able to access the 3g network and wifi simultaneously. not bad i say. i dont know anyone heard this but i didnt remember reading about this when the release came out. also there was a feature to still use wifi in flight mode which is nice since some airlines have wifi now. i doubt i'll ever use it but its cool nonetheless.

Posted by: story

How's the camera quality on this thing? I hope better than K750i

Posted by: sdsviet

if the 750 is 2mp then its the same.

Posted by: story

Quote:

Originally Posted by sdsviet

if the 750 is 2mp then its the same.

MP determines the resolution only, it has very little to do with the actualy quality (color, contrast, clarity etc) of the photo

So my question is - Does anyone know what QUALITY of the camera yet? Are they going to make it as good as K750i if not better?

Posted by: ShovelhEd

I will get one only for the VPN.. if it isn't IPsec, I will cry.

Posted by: sdsviet

i guessing it should be better but if not it will prolly be the same camera unit as the 750

Posted by: Prom1

Ok so a few people here, mostly in the PPC camp arent fans of Bengalboy, but he's done it again...

He has a preview of the P990i and I'm sorry the screen is incredible on this device!!!
http://www.bengalboy.com/modules/ne...7#forumpost2337

Posted by: paramS7

Cheers for SE!
Hope they release this thing soon. Or else i might just for the W900i.

I was actually saving for the N-Series, but SE stole me here!

Posted by: sdsviet

well looks like se just released the w810 which is quadband and has edge. do u think they will add that part to a p990 update? how hard is it for them to really do that anyways?>

Posted by: Inclemental

2 quick question to people who saw the actual unit before.
1. where is the port for headphone?
2. does it share the port with the charger?

Posted by: sdsviet

i believe that is where it is. like whole pop port thing or watever

Posted by: spjonm3

I saw a new P990 today...

http://www.waltheramerica.com/p990.htm

Posted by: shockdaddyd

What's the 'c' stand for?

Posted by: AdmiralAK

c stands for Chinese (or china)

It is the model sold in Mainland china - the OS is localized to chinese (and I think, but I might be wrong, that it has the ability to do CJK entry - not just chinese)

Posted by: shockdaddyd

Thanks for the definition, AdmiralAK.

I'd sure like to get one a P990 but an "a" version would be neede given that I'm a T-Mo user in the US. Bummer...

Posted by: RUF996

What is the ETA of P990... I heard 3rd week of Jan? I simply cannot wait... I am abit worry about the reception without 850 in Toronto. An "a", or quadband version would truly be the ultimate of all GSM phones.

Posted by: shockdaddyd

I share your concerns regarding 850. Perhaps we'll be in luck come the release date.

Posted by: nMIK-3

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Originally Posted by RUF996

What is the ETA of P990... I heard 3rd week of Jan? I simply cannot wait... I am abit worry about the reception without 850 in Toronto. An "a", or quadband version would truly be the ultimate of all GSM phones.

There is a good change to see it by end of February...
If not then March

Posted by: .:Kuku:.

hmm here is also

http://www.mobilewala.com/forum/index.php

Br
Kuku

Posted by: AllGlobaltk

IM hearing limited release end of Jan. This is from SE asia. full release mid febuary

Posted by: Doutreo

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How much will it cost?

Posted by: Inclemental

somebody told me that the price will be around $1300CDN at the 1st lanuch...

Posted by: Doutreo

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So being rthat the phone is over $1k. Are there any phone vendors that offer a warranty or replacement options?Does SE offer anything? My Treo has a 1 yr warranty and cost $700 unlocked.
thanks

Posted by: AllGlobaltk

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Originally Posted by Doutreo

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So being rthat the phone is over $1k. Are there any phone vendors that offer a warranty or replacement options?Does SE offer anything? My Treo has a 1 yr warranty and cost $700 unlocked.
thanks

please dont insult the P990 and compare it to your treo.

and no thier is NO us support

Posted by: shockdaddyd

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Originally Posted by AllGlobaltk

please dont insult the P990 and compare it to your treo.

I'm on the floor...

Posted by: Doutreo

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Originally Posted by AllGlobaltk

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doutreo

please dont insult the P990 and compare it to your treo.

and no thier is NO us support

No USA support? How do you know this?
What makes you feel the P990 is insulted? Please explain, before you make unexplained random statments. :P

Posted by: bilbo__baggins

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prom1

Ok so a few people here, mostly in the PPC camp arent fans of Bengalboy, but he's done it again...

He has a preview of the P990i and I'm sorry the screen is incredible on this device!!!
http://www.bengalboy.com/modules/ne...7#forumpost2337

I bought a PDA2k and regretted it severely. The problem with Bengalboy's reviews is they're based on first impressions. Try using the thing for a few months and you discover it's the work of the devil.

I learnt my lesson, and decided that before I plunged for a P990 I'd buy a P910 and try it for a few months first, and so far I'm quite happy. It works great with my Mac for one thing.

Posted by: sdsviet

yea when i got my p900 i went thru a lot of debate b4 i actually got it. but it was well worth it when i got it. i dont think i can even go back to a regular phone or even something without a touchscreen. i really do hope se takes more of the w810 route and introduce quadband and edge onthe p990

sweet!!! my 600 post

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I think I will do the same and keep my 650 and buy a P910i just to check it out and see it I like it. If I don't I can always use the 4gb card for my psp.

But, isn't the new UIQ 3.0 10x better than the P910? that's what I keep hearing. thanks for the advice.

Posted by: Herr Bauhaus

Quote:

Originally Posted by bilbo__baggins

I agree, after my P900 started to age (had it since Dec-03), I bought the K-Jam based on nothing but positive reviews. Now, after two months, I have put it on eBay as it is the work of the devil. Phone functionality is slow, unreliable, and extremely user-unfriendly. Also, the sound quality is very poor (mike & built in speaker). I have now bought a K750i and will be waiting for the P990 to come out. I cr*p on Windows Mobile!

Posted by: AdmiralAK

Quote:

Originally Posted by Herr Bauhaus

I loved my P800

but nothing radical came out of SE so I went to the blue angel. Yes there are problems, but I do not see the P990 as the savior. It STILL is only triband GSM. If it were quadband I would SERIOUSLY consider getting it, but no quadband - no dice

Posted by: Inclemental

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdmiralAK

I loved my P800

Because SE doesn't consider NA as their primary market for the P990 yet. Both Asia and Europe use UMTS2100/900/1800. And US just annouance its UMTS channel in 1900 (correct me if i am wrong). Sony Ericsson needs much more time to develop a phone thats for UMTS1900/850/1900. therefore, SE can't annouance the A version nor quadband P990 since the UMTS in NA is still an uncertinity for SE.

Posted by: Doutreo

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So none of their anounced releases will work with Tmo USA?!

Posted by: Wrk_InProgress

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So none of their anounced releases will work with Tmo USA?!

It will work with T-Mobile as T-MoBile uses the 1900 band is not as dependent on 850 as Cingular is.

Posted by: sdsviet

i dont see how much more in cost is it for them to put out a quadband since they have a w810 quadband

Posted by: Inclemental

its selling point is a 3G phone, not a normal triband
do u expect SE release a UMTS2100/850/900/1800/1900 for North America, then later releasing a new version again if NA really uses 1900 for UMTS instead 2100??

and because NA has different frequency than the rest of the world, thats y phone tends to be launched later than the rest of the world.

Posted by: RUF996

do we have a more solid ETA on the P990??

Posted by: shockdaddyd

Quote:

Originally Posted by RUF996

do we have a more solid ETA on the P990??

'Eventually' seems to be the concensus.

Posted by: p-Ostal

I thought someone found a dealer on the forum that is getting the P990s today...

I called that number and no on picked up...

Posted by: sdsviet

umm i definately didnt hear about anythign like that.

Posted by: superballs

There are two people selling p990's on ebay. They almost seem legit. They both say they have 30 available. One has 500+ positive feedback. The other has 1,400 feedback. But their feedback seems shady. One of them has pictures of the p990 next to a p910 and a K or something. I kinda wanna ask the people for proof or whatever, but i know that alot of people are selling fake stuff on ebay just to get your email for spam or whatever. any ideas?

Posted by: haritia

Quote:

Originally Posted by superballs

There are two people selling p990's on ebay. They almost seem legit. They both say they have 30 available. One has 500+ positive feedback. The other has 1,400 feedback. But their feedback seems shady. One of them has pictures of the p990 next to a p910 and a K or something. I kinda wanna ask the people for proof or whatever, but i know that alot of people are selling fake stuff on ebay just to get your email for spam or whatever. any ideas?

you have a link?

Posted by: sdsviet

those big feedback accounts could easily be hacked and the hacker could be selling the fake p990. there was plenty of that on the p910.

Posted by: shockdaddyd

First, if they're located in another country and you get screwed don't expect the US government (if this is where you reside) to help you out.

Second, if you buy from someone within the US (and you're here) and they screw you, the amount must be over $4,000 before the government even listen to your problems.

Like many I'm excited about this phone. That said I don't know that I'm willing to risk it.

Posted by: shockdaddyd

I emailed one of the people selling a lot of ten P990s. Here's the text of our exchange thus far:

ME:

Hello:

I'm interested in the P990s you're selling. I'd be willing to buy one and,
if all goes well, the rest.

That work for you?

Thx.

HIM:

hi
i am sorry but i will sell the all lot only .

ME:

Thanks for the reply.

Where are you located? Where are the phones located? Do you have a picture of the lot?

HIM:

i am located in dallas , texas and the phones are with me . i don't have a picture right but i will make you one after we will establish the rest of the details .

ME:

Thanks but no picture makes me suspect the legitimacy of the offer. As they say, seeing is believing.

Posted by: shockdaddyd

i don't have a picture right but i will make you one after we will establish the rest of the details .

Yeah, right. I'll get a money order off to him right away. Not.

Posted by: AllGlobaltk

im in dallas i can meet the guy and buy them all and send them to you and keep one

thanks in advance PM ME

Posted by: shockdaddyd

This wreaks of a scam...

http://tinyurl.com/7gjhx

Posted by: superballs

wow! that item was ended early because of a mistake in the listing. hahahaha. yea right. now i think i understand the scam a little bit better. i dont believe this people are trying to screw you over for 1,000's of dollars. i think they are just after your email. so i was wondering how they end the auction without taking, or stealing your money. and they end it 5 minutes early! now it makes a tad more sense.
that was one of the two different auctions i saw. i found another that looked a tad more legit. but if you guys are searching for p990 and not finding it. its gone. try completed auctions. the other one did look a tad less shady. the other one was the one with the 1,400 plus feedback, pictures of the p990 next to the p910 and another phone, and it also said there were 30 available, but they were selling them individuallly.

Posted by: sdsviet

first of all none of those pics on any of the ebay auctions are real proof photos of the sellers stock. they were all taken off of websites that did the reviews. and auctions ending early could be from the original ebay owner ending it cuz they found out that someone else is using their account to rip people off.

Posted by: shockdaddyd

sdsviet is right, they nicked the photos from other sites. That's why I was asking for a picture of the entire lot. I omitted much of email exchange but suffice to say the person I was communicating with became agitated when pressed for a simple picture.

It's a good day when you bust a thief.

Posted by: shockdaddyd

Looks like the P990 will be cheap when she arrives...

http://tinyurl.com/a6oqp

Posted by: YnKredyble

god this seems like such a nice phone but im not sure if i could deal with it not having EDGE... any chance that with all the delays that EDGE might be added to this phone?

Posted by: shockdaddyd

Who's to say? Given that the US hasn't been a target market for the P800, P900 or P910 I'd say it's doubtful. Isn't the US the only country thus far with EDGE?

Posted by: YnKredyble

No, they have edge in europe. I dont understand why EDGE wouldn't be on this phone. Thats like not putting MP3 ringtone capability on a phone. i never thought i would see another phone over $300 without edge unless it was a moto. sadly i was wrong

Posted by: Whitey_C

is there still no set dates for release in europe? this is doing my nut in.

Posted by: Wrk_InProgress

Quote:

Originally Posted by YnKredyble

No, they have edge in europe. I dont understand why EDGE wouldn't be on this phone. Thats like not putting MP3 ringtone capability on a phone. i never thought i would see another phone over $300 without edge unless it was a moto. sadly i was wrong

You do realize it has UMTS right ?

Why would a 3G phone need to have a 2.5 G capability ?

Posted by: haritia

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wrk_InProgress

You do realize it has UMTS right ?

Why would a 3G phone need to have a 2.5 G capability ?

Probably for the same reason you'd want it to have 2G (GPRS) capability? Maybe cheaper, maybe greater availability, whatever?

Posted by: nMIK-3

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wrk_InProgress

You do realize it has UMTS right ?

Why would a 3G phone need to have a 2.5 G capability ?

Because of the coverage...
3G coverage is very weak even in Europe, in US there is no 3G coverage except some spots...

So you need your 3G phone to be 2.5G compatible in order to use it all around the world where 2G is everywhere

Posted by: inspectagadget

Ok, I bought a p900 when it first came out. Soon after I got the sep900 I switched to PPC. Now I want a P990. I am guessing it's not out just yet cause I can't find it anywhere. Anyone know for sure when it hits the streets?

Posted by: The Mac Ace

its out if you know where to look

until i get mine i wont say where tho, just in case its a scam, right now they are around $1250 us

Posted by: sdsviet

umm there's a whole sticky about this. pls dont make another thread. im not trying to be mean or anything. but yea i dont really know. some people like ace have the inside scoop. hehe

Posted by: inspectagadget

sdsvit, If you "don't really know" then why are you replying to this post?

Some people are stupid, some just like being rude and some are just inconsiderate.

I never could figure out why people reply to posts with a comment like yours.

Posted by: sdsviet

wow someone people needs to take their heads out of their @$$. there's already a HUGE sticky about the p990. why the hell are u making another one? i should start talking to the mods about d i c k s on this forum. enough said im done talking to u.

Posted by: The Mac Ace

sdsviet your post has been reported, you are needlessly rude. perhaps you should stfu and leave him alone, he did nothing wrong or against the rules!

Posted by: Wrk_InProgress

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Mac Ace

its out if you know where to look

until i get mine i wont say where tho, just in case its a scam, right now they are around $1250 us

Are you saying that you are currently awaiting a P990 ?

Posted by: The Mac Ace

yes, and a e61 hehe

Posted by: Wrk_InProgress

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Mac Ace

yes, and a e61 hehe

I'm not sure if you're being serious or not. However, if and when you do get the p990 - you HAVE to post pics, give us a review (I won't allow anything less

).

As well, perhaps then you can release the name of your source (perhaps even via PM).

I hope for your sake, it's not a scam!

Posted by: The Mac Ace

i aint payin crap, so if its a scam i lose nothing

my source will never be named. i think itll be the e61

Posted by: Wrk_InProgress

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Mac Ace

i aint payin crap, so if its a scam i lose nothing

my source will never be named. i think itll be the e61

You have to choose between the two ?

Posted by: The Mac Ace

yes sir i do, and i chose the e61

Posted by: bikedogrun

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Mac Ace

its out if you know where to look

until i get mine i wont say where tho, just in case its a scam, right now they are around $1250 us

Folks ... sorry for my re-post but the hype around this phone is getting uber ridiculous & certain folks who should really know better and often exhibit supreme lucidity are needlessly fanning the flames:

This phone (P990) will not be released (to the public) until late March (in Europe) at best! For the USA, clearly later.

The issue is the new version of UIQ, V3.0. Apps that run today on UIQ (P800, 900 & 910a/i etc) will absolutely "not" run on the P990 without the developer first doing a recompile and then releasing a new version.

Be VERY sure before you "bite" on anyone offering an early or prototype P990.

Caveat Emptor //

Posted by: The Mac Ace

my friend just ordered one from dubai.

Posted by: AllGlobaltk

FYI: the P990 is out limited release.

Posted by: Wrk_InProgress

Quote:

Originally Posted by AllGlobaltk

FYI: the P990 is out limited release.

Link/Source/Anything ?

Posted by: inspectagadget

That's too bad, I wanted one for my B-day in March. My wife says I always buy my own so there's never anything she can buy for me. Now I have to figure out how to get one. I don't care where it comes from, as long as it is legal.

Posted by: sdsviet

limited to?

Posted by: Prom1

Shockdaddyd; btw EDGE is available with Vodafone & with Orange in France. Also, in Philippeans they too have EDGE as well as Brazil - I think. Vodafone has the RIM BB 8700g announced and shipping in less than months end.

Posted by: shockdaddyd

Prom1:

Thx for the clarification. Thought I had read that somewhere...thought it sounded unlikely at best.

Posted by: AllGlobaltk

sony ericsson P series phone always come out in limited numbers for a couple weeks and are very hard to get. I have 3 of them coming next week and my guy only got 10..

should be out in hong kong within a couple weeks

Posted by: YnKredyble

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wrk_InProgress

You do realize it has UMTS right ?

Why would a 3G phone need to have a 2.5 G capability ?

Because i dont think the 3g cell towers in europe will reach me in california

Posted by: shockdaddyd

Can't help but notice all the P990s for sale on eBay have been removed. Gotta love the fall of the fraudsters.