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Posted by: I have a phone

Quote:

Originally Posted by butzchan

So if it doesn't pass on the 20th, do you think it will be cancelled?

doubt it will be cancelled after all the work done to get it to market

Posted by: WebbyBabe

Wow, 161 pages and still no phone. I would've given up by now.

Posted by: orion2087

I know you guys hate hearing so many release dates, but I can confirm that at I work at best buy, and we now have the 8125 in our system, and shows an in-stock date of january 29th with a price of $499.99...

Posted by: speed4tu

sounds a little pricey for what it is.

Posted by: orion2087

Quote:

Originally Posted by speed4tu

sounds a little pricey for what it is.

yeah, but still better then the ppc6700 at $719.99..

Posted by: trim99

Quote:

Originally Posted by orion2087

I know you guys hate hearing so many release dates, but I can confirm that at I work at best buy, and we now have the 8125 in our system, and shows an in-stock date of january 29th with a price of $499.99...

$499 w/ contract or no? If so, 1yr or 2yr?

Also, do BB do upgrades?

Posted by: exchguy

Quote:

Originally Posted by blueshockeynut

Talked with our Tech this morning and got the same info, the new ROM has to be tested and if it passes then it is a go, if it doesnt, well I dont even want to think about it, from my understanding there are several companies that are planning to roll this out as a convergance device solution for their employees.

JB

Can you confirm if the 8125 will ship with AKU 2.0? I would hope that after it has been delayed this long that Cingular will at least ship with AKU 2.0, especially for business customers that want it for the push email support.

Posted by: orion2087

Quote:

Originally Posted by trim99

$499 w/ contract or no? If so, 1yr or 2yr?

Also, do BB do upgrades?

$499 full price, I couldn't tell you what contract prices will be.

And yes, best buy does upgrades, but I couldn't tell you what kind of price you'd be looking at.

Posted by: gizmotron

the 29th is my birthday :-p

Posted by: oo3

Quote:

Originally Posted by orion2087

how long have you had that in your system? i'm just curious cuz if it just appeared in the system recently. if so then that's good news to me.

Posted by: timpak

I got the below response yesterday from HTCamerica, don't know if it helps.

'Thank you for your interest in the Cingular 8125. Cingular will still
be releasing this device and although an official launch date has yet to
be set we anticipate that the device will be available this quarter.'

Posted by: honorelsu

if best buy has it thats good i have gift certificates there

Posted by: blueshockeynut

Quote:

Originally Posted by exchguy

I will see what I can find out for ya on this.

JB

Posted by: Omega2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by I have a phone

doubt it will be cancelled after all the work done to get it to market

I concur, let them work out any bugs that the device may have, it means a more stable product for the end user.

Posted by: RulinSmoove

A response I got yesterday from Cingular:

Mr. X

Thank you for your feedback and expressed interest in the Cingular 8125. At this time the device is still at a Beta test level and we do not currently have an estimated time of release for the device. If you have any other questions or concerns about current equipment offered for Cingular Wireless service please feel free to contact our Customer Care Department. Thank you for being a Cingular Customer.

Sincerely,

Chris Green
Cingular Wireless
Office Of The President, NE Region

Which after reading this again just now, seems like its the routine default "get off our backs, we don't care to explain the situation to you" generic response to everybodies questions. always have to direct it to CC... never good enough to deal with the people at corporate.

Posted by: jetli

Quote:

Originally Posted by orion2087

This is one of the most interesting posts out of 2400 some posts here.

I know we have more than one Cingular employees lurking on this forum, can anyone confirm this information?

Posted by: UBetchya

My company is about to turn on access for Treo's and Blackberry's to our Exchange server (finally). I asked if a WM 5 phone like the 8125 would be supported. They said yes but informed me that I need to use Goodlink to sync my Outlook info.

Since I plan on ordering the new 8125 as soon as it's available, I was curious about the pricing for the data plan and the Goodlink service. I went through the motions of ordering online at Cingular to find out (substituing the hw6515 for the 8125). No where can I find any end-user pricing for Goodlink . It seems at first glance that the Goodlink service isn’t available through the normal retail channels of Cingular – only through their B2B channel. Is this true?

Also, does the Goodlink service ride on top of the Data Connect plan? (i.e. do I need Data Connect as well as Goodlink?)

Posted by: idic_2000

Not to throw too big a monket wrench into the system but did anyone see the specs and info Engadget has on the HP hw6900? Interesting.... Reference: http://www.engadget.com/2006/01/10/...-solid-details/

Posted by: pjammin10

Quote:

Originally Posted by idic_2000

Not to throw too big a monket wrench into the system but did anyone see the specs and info Engadget has on the HP hw6900? Interesting.... Reference: http://www.engadget.com/2006/01/10/...-solid-details/

Yep! The size comparison between the two (Wizard and 6900) are going to make it a difficult decision for picking between the two. However, GPS is always a nice little add-on

Posted by: ajpprc

So I broke down a couple of days ago and picked up the 2125. I'd been using a 2 device approach (hp 4150 + motorola v550) and i wanted to move to a single device. My biggest concern about the smartphone platform was the lack of support for office documents, but since the 2125 came with clearvue software, and i picked up ptab to edit my all important excel files I figured it might be worth a try.

After a few days using it I have to say that I'm impressed with the 2125. Its a great media device, I have it loaded with music and movies. Its also a great device for managing my email and PIM functions. Unfortunately, where it falls down is the place I expected it to, data entry and internet access.

Yesterday I was on the road for business the entire day. This meant that I was typing out 10 or so email messages while at the same time trying to do research online and keeping myself entertained in between meetings.

By the end of the day my fingers were cramped from all of the typing I did. I must admit that T9 is definately an improvement, but not enough to make up for the lack of a keyboard or stylus input option. Frankly, its slow and painful and the constant switching between T9, ABC, 123 input options is annoying.

Surfing the internet was impressive enough for a cell phone, and I love googl'es xhtml site which automatically reformats other sites for viewing on small screens, but I was unable to view some critical sites and being forced to scroll through every link was tedious.

My final verdict is that the 2125 is a great device for people who want a cell phone + PIM + media powerhouse + view email, but not a good device for those who need unfettered internet access, extensive data entry and email composition. So, the 2125 is going back to cingular and I rejoin the legions here who are eagerly awaiting the release of the 8125.

Posted by: high_tek

Well my wait for the 8125 is officially over. I have finally recieved my ppc-6700 and switched to sprint. I love this phone and seeing as you guys will essentially be getting the same phone, I will tell you this is a phone to love. Good luck everybody, thanks everyone for the great info and support. I will be movin on over to the sprint forums now. I will check back on occasion to see if everything worked out for you guys, good-luck.

Posted by: I have a phone

Quote:

Originally Posted by exchguy

Can you confirm if the 8125 will ship with AKU 2.0?

good question. Should this be viewable in the ROM code somewhere?

Posted by: KikoKazuma

No AKU 2.0 as of yet, it may be a while before they release it as an upgrade.

Posted by: Mykeee

IHap, are the GPRS issues solved or are working on being solved for the 8125? I just updated my 9100 w/ the 1.6.7.1 firmware and I still have to reset my phone just to get GPRS to transmit any data.

Posted by: 2005 escalade

i just spoke to a friend of mine works for cingular 15 years he is the bestbuy sale rep he said its release is feb 6th he said its pimp the phone to have.

Posted by: pjammin10

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2005 escalade

i just spoke to a friend of mine works for cingular 15 years he is the bestbuy sale rep he said its release is feb 6th he said its pimp the phone to have.

Damn son, we is gonna be pimps! Time to brush our shoulders off!

Posted by: KikoKazuma

Quote:

Originally Posted by UBetchya

My company is about to turn on access for Treo's and Blackberry's to our Exchange server (finally). I asked if a WM 5 phone like the 8125 would be supported. They said yes but informed me that I need to use Goodlink to sync my Outlook info.

Since I plan on ordering the new 8125 as soon as it's available, I was curious about the pricing for the data plan and the Goodlink service. I went through the motions of ordering online at Cingular to find out (substituing the hw6515 for the 8125). No where can I find any end-user pricing for Goodlink . It seems at first glance that the Goodlink service isn’t available through the normal retail channels of Cingular – only through their B2B channel. Is this true?

Also, does the Goodlink service ride on top of the Data Connect plan? (i.e. do I need Data Connect as well as Goodlink?)

You would pay a bit of money for the Goodlink server software and the licenses for all the users that would be on it. I beleive Cingular might offer it through their NBO (National Business Ordering) department. And the only plan you need on your account is the data connect plan, nothing more.

high_tek congrats on getting the 6700 (htc apache). Very nice device. It does have it's advantages over the 8125 (htc wizard), like ev-do compared to edge. The xscale processor on it is faster than the 8125's. Even tho the OMAP proc on the 8125 is dual-core, it doesn't have that snappiness the 6700 does. But I'm not a fan of CDMA.

Posted by: jlczl

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mykeee

IHap, are the GPRS issues solved or are working on being solved for the 8125? I just updated my 9100 w/ the 1.6.7.1 firmware and I still have to reset my phone just to get GPRS to transmit any data.

Mykee, I've noticed through your many posts you are having serious issues with GPRS. If the solutions posted on the other threads don't work for you, I suggest you get the device replaced. You obviously have a defective unit. Most of us have gotten that issue resolved with the settings posted in the GPRS issue thread.

Posted by: I have a phone

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mykeee

IHap, are the GPRS issues solved or are working on being solved for the 8125? I just updated my 9100 w/ the 1.6.7.1 firmware and I still have to reset my phone just to get GPRS to transmit any data.

can't offer an answer at this time, sorry

Posted by: high_tek

Quote:

Originally Posted by KikoKazuma

I agree not a fan of cdma but the price for fast data was right, I just hope the voice service holds up to what I experienced with cingular, bad reception would kill this decision for me, but when my number is ported over on thursday I will have a clearer view of that. For now I have been playing with the ppc side of this device (6700). I installed a reg hack program to speed up the functionality a bit. (just a memory cache trick, but for the cost of a few MB's I notice smooth program switching, although it didn't really seem bad before. What do I know I just bought it. I got the active sync working, was a pain in the *** at first though, I kept getting a desktop error message. Finally a reinstall of outlook fixed the problem. I played with the camera, has better features than what I am used to on a camera phone. Can't wait for optical zoom and a 5 MP and vga quality video.

Guess maybe next year. The keyboard is solid. Very easy to type with. Caps lock and shift lock are a pain in the ***, guess I will get used to it though, the whole double click on/off thing. Video plays awesome, sound quality excellent. Pretty wimpy vibrate, could have a louder ringer. All in all just small things to complain about if at all, I am sure we will see things really open up once there are more mobile 5 devices out there. I had my treo friend over and he's either getting this or the 8125, he prefers the 8125 it seems cause of the lack of the antenna, but the leather case that comes with the phone is perfect for me, he puts his in his pocket so I could see why that might be a bother for some.
Just my 2 cents, if you have anything you want to know about the ppc side of your 8125, holla at me , I'll try to answer for you. Like I said I may have the 6700 but I am sure 99% will pertain to the 8125's.

Posted by: orion2087

Quote:

Originally Posted by oo3

how long have you had that in your system? i'm just curious cuz if it just appeared in the system recently. if so then that's good news to me.

i've been checking frequently but gave up after awhile.. tryed it for the first time since december the day i posted what i know and it poped up. next time i'm at work, ill try and remember to look up and see how many are on order for my region. this will most likely only be going to business segmented stores like the ppc6700 did.. ill try to get more information on which best buys will carry it.

i have to be honest though, the in stock date's arn't always gonna be the same as when we get them in. its like a 50/50 shot.

Posted by: butzchan

Looks like the XV6700 is available on Verizon ahead of the Jan 19th date. $399.00 with a 2 year contract. May have to check one out.

Posted by: idic_2000

Can someone explain the concept of "OMAP proc dual-core" for the 8125? Looking at the specs, this model has a 200 Mhz processor. when I compare this against the upcoming hw6900, which will have 514Mhz, it seems the hw is the way to go as far as processing power. However, I understand there is a scaling functionality on the 8125 processor.... HELP!

Posted by: Brad15470

From reading all the reviews of the 8125, HTC may have used a 200 Mhz processor to help with battery life; I hear coworkers with their Treos always on the charger. Just a observation. Cingular 8125 "where are you?"!!

Posted by: vpathak

So I am at a point where I can't wait anymore....and I want to make a decision between QTEK 9100 and imate K-JAM. Can someone please help?

Which one would you recommend QTEK 9100 or K-JAM? What are their current prices? Do you think the prices would drop when Cingular 8125 would be out?

Could you please list a few important distinctions (between 9100 and KJAM) for me to make a decision? Maybe things like the following:

1) hardware
2) software loaded in the device
3) performance
4) warranty and support for upgrades
5) reliability
6) price
7) known issues (such as with radio, gprs, memory,
etc.)
8) availability, if I ordered the device today
9) return/exchange policy
10) others that you can recommend

Also, please let me know how would I be able to get
emails in a "blackberry-kind fashion" on the HTC
Wizard (i.e. would the device ring/beep when I get a
new email - push technology?)

My current service is with Cingular and would like to continue with them. Can you recommend what kind of data plan I should use for unlimited internet/email access?

Also, if this is not the right forum to ask the above questions, please point me to the right one.

Thanks in advance for all your help.

Posted by: Raven77

Quote:

Originally Posted by vpathak

So I am at a point where I can't wait anymore....and I want to make a decision between QTEK 9100 and imate K-JAM. Can someone please help?

Which one would you recommend QTEK 9100 or K-JAM? What are their current prices? Do you think the prices would drop when Cingular 8125 would be out?

Could you please list a few important distinctions (between 9100 and KJAM) for me to make a decision? Maybe things like the following:

1) hardware
2) software loaded in the device
3) performance
4) warranty and support for upgrades
5) reliability
6) price
7) known issues (such as with radio, gprs, memory,
etc.)
8) availability, if I ordered the device today
9) return/exchange policy
10) others that you can recommend

Also, please let me know how would I be able to get
emails in a "blackberry-kind fashion" on the HTC
Wizard (i.e. would the device ring/beep when I get a
new email - push technology?)

My current service is with Cingular and would like to continue with them. Can you recommend what kind of data plan I should use for unlimited internet/email access?

Also, if this is not the right forum to ask the above questions, please point me to the right one.

Thanks in advance for all your help.

HOLY CRAP? Wouldnt it just be easier to do a little searching on your own to find out all that info? Thats what I did...
lazy people...

Posted by: onebyone1958

Quote:

Originally Posted by vpathak

I went with the K-JAM. I did a lot of research and one big thing that I found out that the US support for QTEK was very difficult to find/use and the support for the KJAM was there. The KJAM does come with SKYPE and a Anti Virus software that really bog down the system and you can check out the offical thread on how to get rid of them

http://www.howardforums.com/showthr...28&page=1&pp=15

I also purchased it through "Mad Monkey Boy" (Advertised here) - the shipping was very fast and several people have had very good things to say about it

http://www.dweiniger.com/

Hope this helps !

Posted by: ajpprc

1) hardware
Basically the same device, no difference here that I know of

2) software loaded in the device
K-jam comes with some additional software, but it bogs it down so much you almost invariably get rid of it anyhow. I have heard that the qtek is much more usable out of the box because of this.

3) performance
Once you get rid of the k-jams software issues its again basically the same device, you should get the same performance.

4) warranty and support for upgrades
K-jam is much better as they have english language support as well as membership in their i-mate club which provides rom upgrades etc.

5) reliability
Same device except for the software issues you should get the same performance

6) price
Because of the additional software and support the K-jam is usually between $50-$100 more expensive

7) known issues (such as with radio, gprs, memory,
etc.)
Don't know of any device specific issues, search these forums for more info

8) availability, if I ordered the device today
If the device is in stock it all depends on the shipping option you choose, anywhere from overnight to 7 days.

9) return/exchange policy
Depends on the retailer you get it from.

10) others that you can recommend
Mad Monkey Boy is definately recommended on these forums, his prices are a little higher than rock bottom prices you might be able to get elsewhere, but only by $50 or so. its probably worth that for the great service.

Posted by: q1001001

How does video look on it? I saw some video on a sprint ppc6700 and it looked pretty smooth.

Posted by: UBetchya

I've seen conflicting info on 802.11 support for the 8125. Which is it? 802.11b or 802.11g. My home's wireless router is 802.11b. It's my understanding that a 802.11g phone will not work with it.

If that's the case, I am thinking of jumping off Cingular and going for the 6700.
Else, I'll have to factor getting a new wireless router into my decision...

Can anyone confirm that Verizon's 6700 it is indeed 802.11b?

Thanks.

Posted by: Raven77

Quote:

Originally Posted by UBetchya

I've seen conflicting info on 802.11 support for the 8125. Which is it? 802.11b or 802.11g. My home's wireless router is 802.11b. It's my understanding that a 802.11g phone will not work with it.

If that's the case, I am thinking of jumping off Cingular and going for the 6700.
Else, I'll have to factor getting a new wireless router into my decision...

Can anyone confirm that Verizon's 6700 it is indeed 802.11b?

Thanks.

I think it will connect to your 802.11B, but if it doesnt I wouldnt let that be a deciding factor. You can pick up a G router for well under $50 and considering the costs of these phones, that isnt much...

For what its worth, my 9100 works great with my B/G router. (I know that doesnt help you)

Posted by: uselessnanhai

deciding between the two, qtek's warranty info is harder to get, but it's longer. otherwise, they're almost the same. qtek is generally cheaper. i would probably go with MMB or perhaps an used one from the ppc forums?

Posted by: stuXstu

Quote:

Originally Posted by UBetchya

802.11 "B" and "G" are the same, just different speeds. "B" will connect to a "G" and vice versa. There is also no possible way that the 8125 or any variant could actually process at 54meg (G) or 11meg (B) speeds. I doubt the Universal could work at those speeds. So don't worry about it.....

Pick the carrier you like then buy the phone.

Posted by: jwniesen

After following the anticipated release of the 8125 since early December (my buddy has an i-Mate and uses his Cingular SIM), I finally gave up and got the XV6700 from Verizon. For me, I was switching from Nextel anyway, so I was somewhat neutral on which carrier, as I had to do something new anyway. I did an assessment of the total cost of ownership on a 2 year window of either buying the i-Mate outright, or the (estimated) price of the 8125, vs the XV6700. If you went with the 2yr contract on a family plan share with either carrier, and either spread the higher cost of the i-Mate over 2yrs, or the reduced cost with the carrier subsidized phone, the avg. monthly cost was almost the same. I researched the carriers, and ultimately decided that getting this unit for $299 (with *supposedly*) an additional manufacturer rebate, and being able to "get it now", I went with Verizon. I'm very pleased with the phone, and I don't switch phones often enough to worry about the sim portability, etc.

I got this phone on the 10th - simply walked into the corporate store and ordered it - they paid for overnight shipping, had it by 10:30am the next day.

WiFi works fine - should work fine with the 8125 as well with any speed router; I use a long WEP key, works fine. Interesting thing is the speed of the Verizon EV-DO is actually significant faster (observed) vs. my WiFi through a 6mb cable modem. I did not run any actual speed tests yet, tho.

Posted by: KikoKazuma

Quote:

Originally Posted by UBetchya

The 8125 uses 802.11g.

Posted by: lpecan

Quote:

Originally Posted by vpathak

So I am at a point where I can't wait anymore....and I want to make a decision between QTEK 9100 and imate K-JAM. Can someone please help?

K-Jam, K-Jam, K-JAM

I had a 9100, loved it but it was horribly buggy. I had to recalibrate the stylus like every 7 minutes. It took me sometimes 40 seconds just to dial a phone number. The same might be true with the imate, but at least you know you are going to get firmware upgrades.

Posted by: jlczl

Quote:

Originally Posted by lpecan

QTek, QTek, QTek

I didn't have a K-Jam but I love my QTek. I haven't had to recalibrate my stylus since I got it. I dial in almost no time at all. The same might be true of the imate, but I paid less and you know you can always get the same firmware upgrades here or at XDA-developers! Plus you get a 2 year warrantee that MMB backs up through his supplier.

Trying to be funny, but in all seriousness I really am 110% satisfied with my QTek..............and all the above is true btw.

Posted by: carmonaj

I'm keeping my fingers cross that we will see the 8125 very soon

Posted by: Free Man

The battery life of the 6700, when compared to the 8125 or the KJAM units is nearly half. Something to consider.

Quote:

Originally Posted by butzchan

Looks like the XV6700 is available on Verizon ahead of the Jan 19th date. $399.00 with a 2 year contract. May have to check one out.

Posted by: Fonaphile

Does anyone know if the 8125 will have a flight mode (turn off phone, but still use PDA functions while on an airplane)? I assume it would, but wanted to know if any knew for sure.

Posted by: substring

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fonaphile

Does anyone know if the 8125 will have a flight mode (turn off phone, but still use PDA functions while on an airplane)? I assume it would, but wanted to know if any knew for sure.

Just wondering....if you don't turn your phone to flight mode, are they going to spank you?

Posted by: RulinSmoove

UGH! i can't wait any longerrrrrrrrrrr.... yes i can haha. hurry up cingular please!

Posted by: eimajuno

I am almost tempted to get the HP instead if this is not out soon.

Posted by: jlczl

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Fonaphile

Does anyone know if the 8125 will have a flight mode (turn off phone, but still use PDA functions while on an airplane)? I assume it would, but wanted to know if any knew for sure.

The QTek does so I would imagine the practically identical 8125 will also.

Posted by: jlczl

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Quote:

Originally Posted by eimajuno

I am almost tempted to get the HP instead if this is not out soon.

Cingular is banking on you doing precisely that. They want to unload as many of those WM2003SE phones as possible before they release a WM 5.0 phone.

Posted by: jlczl

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Quote:

Originally Posted by idic_2000

Can someone explain the concept of "OMAP proc dual-core" for the 8125? Looking at the specs, this model has a 200 Mhz processor. when I compare this against the upcoming hw6900, which will have 514Mhz, it seems the hw is the way to go as far as processing power. However, I understand there is a scaling functionality on the 8125 processor.... HELP!

Check here:

http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/wtbu/wtbuproductcontent.tsp?templateId=6123&navigationId=12000&path=templatedata/cm/product/data/omap_850

Posted by: eimajuno

Quote:

Originally Posted by jlczl

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Cingular is banking on you doing precisely that. They want to unload as many of those WM2003SE phones as possible before they release a WM 5.0 phone.

Yeah, I know that. I guess this is good that it has been pushed back. I need to recoup from my N90 money wise.

Posted by: idic_2000

Quote:

Originally Posted by jlczl

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Check here:

http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/wt...t/data/omap_850

According to these specs, the OMAP850 processor has the scalability to reach UPTO 200 Mhz... Hmmmm. Looks like this could be an issue with the 8125. If I am incorrect, someone please feel free to offer correction. the HP hw6900 will have a "true" 514 Mhz. Hmmmm....

Posted by: ASimpleFarmer

Quote:

Originally Posted by eimajuno

Yeah, I know that. I guess this is good that it has been pushed back. I need to recoup from my N90 money wise.

i'm a butt

hha

Posted by: AngelJo008

Quote:

Originally Posted by idic_2000

yes but you are talking about a single core processor versus a dual core processor. apples and oranges. If you look at simply the number then yeah...HP looks better. but honestly, since I got the k-jam with a dual core processor, my phone NEVER hangs and my applications run more smoothly than the other SINGLE core processor pdas I've used.

Posted by: pgray007

Quote:

Originally Posted by idic_2000

If you spend 6 minutes learning about microprocessors, you'll learn that clock speed is not the sole indicator of how much "work" a processor can do in a given amount of time. Here's a simple analogy:

One factory has two workers who can each make a widget every 5 seconds. Another factory has 500 workers who can each make a widget every 10 seconds. Which factory makes more widgets in a given day???

Posted by: Reighvin

The 500 people, each making 1 widget every 10 seconds will produce roughly 1,330,000 more widgets in an 8 hour day.

Posted by: smcassara

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reighvin

The 500 people, each making 1 widget every 10 seconds will produce roughly 1,330,000 more widgets in an 8 hour day.

wasn't there a cartoon named Widget?

Posted by: pgray007

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reighvin

The 500 people, each making 1 widget every 10 seconds will produce roughly 1,330,000 more widgets in an 8 hour day.

Right. So even though factory 1 had a faster "clock speed" factory 2 gives significantly better performance. Clockspeed is most frequently used in talking about processors because it's easy to understand and develop a marketing campaign around (my processor is bigger than yours).

Posted by: Reighvin

Quote:

Originally Posted by pgray007

(my processor is bigger than yours).

That's not what my old lady tells me. :-) Understood your analogy completely. I just wanted to get the numbers out there for those that didn't.

Posted by: UBetchya

Is there some issue with availability of 1GB mini SD cards? My impression in shopping online for them is that they're pretty hard to find. I've always been a Sandisk user. The only one I can find with availability is A-Data. See (http://www.supermediastore.com/adat...inisd-card.html)

Anyone have good or bad to say about A-Data? Any other sources to suggest?

Posted by: dday64

Quote:

Originally Posted by UBetchya

Is there some issue with availability of 1GB mini SD cards? My impression in shopping online for them is that they're pretty hard to find. I've always been a Sandisk user. The only one I can find with availability is A-Data. See (http://www.supermediastore.com/adat...inisd-card.html)

Anyone have good or bad to say about A-Data? Any other sources to suggest?

I bought my 1GB Sandisk miniSD from Best Buy

Posted by: mreimers

Just a general question of whether I should get an unlocked K-Jam/9100 or wait for the 8125 with it's potential feature lobotomies. I am willing to wait (somewhat) for the 8125 but a March to June delay has me wondering about the benefits to waiting. Your nonscathing feedback would be greatly appreciated in helping me to decide.

Thanks!!

Posted by: Edeescam

With the price on the V3i dropping so much, I am highly considering picking up one of those. Since the 8125 will be around $400 on a 2 year contract extension, I could have an unlocked phone and be month to month for the same price

Posted by: UBetchya

Quote:

Originally Posted by KikoKazuma

No AKU 2.0 as of yet, it may be a while before they release it as an upgrade.

I almost pulled the trigger on buying a 6700 today at Circuit City. They had one in stock and were getting ready to start preping it. I was sure I was out of contract with ATT Wireless. To my shagrin, I'm stuck for quite a while longer. I completely forgot that I renewed my contract to get a better plan about a year ago.

Call off the dogs.

Anyway, before I discovered my contract issue, I had them confirm that the 6700 had AKU 2 already loaded on it. They did some checking and confirmed that all the 6700's going out now are loaded with AKU 2. Assuming that that's accurate, then what could be the holdup for the 8125?.

Posted by: kirkyuhnke

Do we know if the Sprint 6700's are shipping with AKU2 or is this just Verizon?

Posted by: Raven77

Quote:

Originally Posted by UBetchya

Ebay! thats where i got mine...

Posted by: ajpprc

So I'm definately getting this when it comes out and I've been looking into bluetooth headsets. I'm not really finding anything that I like, perhaps I can pick your brains.

I'm looking for a stereo headset that provides good sound quality for listening to music but can still answer phone calls. I also want something with a small profile. So far all of the stereo headsets I have seen are big and bulky, I'm imagining something like a regular bluetooth headset but perhaps with a second earbud that can be wrapped around your head and stuck in your other ear, if that makes any sense.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks!

Posted by: jmj3p

So the 2125 is only 124 after rebate and 2 yr contract on the B2B website.. Think the 8125 will be lower than the original 2yr contract price of 399? I'm hoping!!!

Posted by: gps

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reighvin

That's not what my old lady tells me. :-) Understood your analogy completely. I just wanted to get the numbers out there for those that didn't.

How would your "old lady" know how big that other dude's "processor" is?

I just couldn't resist.

Posted by: .7

2,477 posts and no phone yet.....geez

Wow, I cant wait for this thing to hit, you guys are going to go nuts

I promise to do something a little extra for this thread when it hits

Posted by: cstyle226

What's the latest word on the fantasy release date? I'm waiting for this phone, too.

New to the forums, btw.

Posted by: Free Man

I can see what is going to happen, this phone has so much anticipation behind it that they are going to be on instant backorder status once it is released and that will put the wait back another 2-3 weeks like the 2125.

Posted by: Cool6324

This post is to let everyone know this phone is on cingular's rebate form. Has a $50 rebate which requires a voice plan of $39.99 or higher and unlimited media net.

http://onlinestorez.cingular.com/ce...df?WT.svl=reb18

Posted by: dday64

If you guys do a google search for this phone you'll see a lot more things come up for it now than a week or two ago. Especially whole pages of 8125 accessories

Posted by: jimjenkins5

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cool6324

This post is to let everyone know this phone is on cingular's rebate form. Has a $50 rebate which requires a voice plan of $39.99 or higher and unlimited media net.

http://onlinestorez.cingular.com/ce...df?WT.svl=reb18

Notice that this offer is good only until Feb 11. The phone must be coming out by then or why would they put it on the form.

Posted by: Fonaphile

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cool6324

The 850 band Nokia 9300 has been "ridin' the rebate form" since August and still isn't out. That is the phone I was after before I found the 8125. Before that I was after the Mpx 300....maybe it's me.

Posted by: coreycore02

Quote:

Originally Posted by cstyle226

What's the latest word on the fantasy release date? I'm waiting for this phone, too.

New to the forums, btw.

yeah latest ive heard is poss end of jan begin feb... ive given up on this fone, ive been waiting since god knows when, i think it was like oct or sept, too long thats all i know.... ive moved on and decided id try out the blackberry 8700c instead

Posted by: smcassara

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimjenkins5

Notice that this offer is good only until Feb 11. The phone must be coming out by then or why would they put it on the form.

current phone pricing expires feb 11th. the 8125 has been on the last three rebates.. and it'll be on the next. tho, this is the first time we've seen it on a price sheet.

Posted by: butzchan

http://www.benefitdiscount.com/nextjump/

now has it listed as "expected delivery mid Feb 2006"

Posted by: chix

Quote:

Originally Posted by butzchan

http://www.benefitdiscount.com/nextjump/

now has it listed as "expected delivery mid Feb 2006"

Wow.... $129.99 after rebates? Anyone have experience with this company?

Think such a deal can be had on T-Mobile when they launch?

Posted by: dstrauss

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimjenkins5

Notice that this offer is good only until Feb 11. The phone must be coming out by then or why would they put it on the form.

This really means nothing. Both the 8125 and 2125 were on an earlier rebate sheet that expired on 12/24/05! Cingular is worse than a cow giving birth, it will come when it comes, and not a minute sooner (and it will probably surprise everyone at Cingular as well).

Posted by: substring

Quote:

Originally Posted by ajpprc

I'm looking for a stereo headset that provides good sound quality for listening to music but can still answer phone calls. I also want something with a small profile. So far all of the stereo headsets I have seen are big and bulky, I'm imagining something like a regular bluetooth headset but perhaps with a second earbud that can be wrapped around your head and stuck in your other ear, if that makes any sense.

I don't think such design is available....yet. But anyway, you should check out Plantronic. They have some real cool bluetooth headsets.

Posted by: idic_2000

All, I am getting tired of waiting for a mobile that will only have EDGE capabilities. Does anyone have experience with the Verizon Apache? I am leaning in that direction because they have (and have had for a year) real data rates (400-800Kbts). I am looking for anyones experience with the Verizon Wireless XV6700 & 1xEVDO/1xRTT system before I say Adios to Cingular....

Posted by: Free Man

A risky proposition at best and as in prior threads they mainly sell to business, not individuals.

Quote:

Originally Posted by chix

Wow.... $129.99 after rebates? Anyone have experience with this company?

Think such a deal can be had on T-Mobile when they launch?

Posted by: RulinSmoove

You know what I don't understand. Why is there only a 50$ rebate on the 8125 and a 100$ rebate on the 2125? Anyone?

Posted by: Omega2008

Because its Cingular and thats what they do.

Posted by: N7TND

Same with me. Contract is up on 3 Feb and I'll probably jump to Verizon or Sprint. I will miss the ability to swap phones as I want with a SIM change but I'll deal with that.

From what I can see, Cingular is coming out with UMTS/HSPDA hand-sets in a few weeks but nothing on the smart phone front.....

Posted by: DJ E-Bam

I saw an in-store price sheet with the 8125. It said $449 retail (no contract) and due to ship Jan 23rd.

But it's Cingular.....we all know how this story plays out. I'm just gonna get one from MMB next week.

Posted by: substring

Quote:

Originally Posted by RulinSmoove

You know what I don't understand. Why is there only a 50$ rebate on the 8125 and a 100$ rebate on the 2125? Anyone?

Usually that means they have a higher profit margin on the 2125 than on the 8125.

Posted by: KikoKazuma

Quote:

Originally Posted by ajpprc

So I'm definately getting this when it comes out and I've been looking into bluetooth headsets. I'm not really finding anything that I like, perhaps I can pick your brains.

I'm looking for a stereo headset that provides good sound quality for listening to music but can still answer phone calls. I also want something with a small profile. So far all of the stereo headsets I have seen are big and bulky, I'm imagining something like a regular bluetooth headset but perhaps with a second earbud that can be wrapped around your head and stuck in your other ear, if that makes any sense.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks!

But the 8125 doesn't have A2DP. It has bluetooth 1.2 with no A2DP profile.
I may be wrong, but AKU 2.0 might enable it.

Posted by: jlczl

Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 4.01; Windows CE; PPC; 240x320))

I guess release before 2500 posts isn't going to happen.........man, when I posted that prediction some time back, I thought I was being overly pessimistic!

Posted by: greenerchs

Umm how long....
Does it take....
to release....
this dammmm..........
Phone...........

please do not spam the thread with posts, its lond enough as it is

Posted by: ASimpleFarmer

stop post whoring

Posted by: N7TND

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ E-Bam

I saw an in-store price sheet with the 8125. It said $449 retail (no contract) and due to ship Jan 23rd.

But it's Cingular.....we all know how this story plays out. I'm just gonna get one from MMB next week.

What's MMB??

Posted by: Free Man

I'm almost willing to bet that the 8125 will be over $500 with no contract, probably between $549 and $600ish.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ E-Bam

Posted by: ASimpleFarmer

no

its 449.99 no contract
i have the price sheet in my hands

Posted by: blueshockeynut

The initial launch of the 8125 will NOT INCLUDE AKU 2.0. The MSFP upgrade will be based on AKU 2.0.

I am trying to get more information on this and will let everyone know what I find out.

JB

Posted by: Perceptions

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ E-Bam

Ah....TQM
Cingular has every channel moving ahead to streamline production/marketing/distrubution/sales/etc...thus reducing time and expenses.

Only problem they forget that every channel must be firing on all cylinders.

Posted by: jlczl

For those of you not aware of the OTHER Cingular 8125 thread, here is post #483 over there:
http://www.howardforums.com/showpos...0&postcount=483

Together that's almost 3,000 posts! WOW.

Price sheets, release dates, stock in warehouses, ROM update info, etc. are all subject to change, so I wouldn't be TOO confident prices quoted are accurate until it's on cingular's website or actually on sale at a retail location.

Posted by: ASimpleFarmer

Quote:

Originally Posted by jlczl

For those of you not aware of the OTHER Cingular 8125 thread, here is post #483 over there:
http://www.howardforums.com/showpos...0&postcount=483

Together that's almost 3,000 posts! WOW.

Price sheets, release dates, stock in warehouses, ROM update info, etc. are all subject to change, so I wouldn't be TOO confident prices quoted are accurate until it's on cingular's website or actually on sale at a retail location.

you are right about that, but its been correct so far with the other launches of phones

Posted by: Dubaruba

My contract with Cingular expires tomorrow!

Considering the poor customer service and not so great signal strength and slower data network of Cingular - along with their repeated delays in introducing new devices and the fact that I rarely travel outside the country, I gave up on the 8125 and today ordered a XV6700 from Verizon.

EVDO will be sweet - I'll doubt I'll even need the integrated wifi.

The only downside I see is that Verizon disabled voice when using a data connection, but i hear that can be fixed pretty easily with a hack.

Enjoy your waiting friends. I am one customer who has given up on Cingular.

Matt

Posted by: smcassara

Quote:

Originally Posted by ASimpleFarmer

no

its 449.99 no contract
i have the price sheet in my hands

my price sheet says $544.00

Posted by: ASimpleFarmer

Quote:

Originally Posted by smcassara

my price sheet says $544.00

i remember that some reps from utah have different prices for some reason

Posted by: DOHCrazy

I called a few local cingular stores today. DFW, Texas area.

They all said the 8125 was on there price sheet for $449 no contract, but had no availablity dates.

Posted by: SZ_Editor

Last week, after waiting for the Cingular 8125, I decided to purchase an unlocked english-keyboard O2 XDA Mini S from an EBay merchant in the UK. It shipped on Friday, got it on Thursday, no hassle. Nice guy, available on MSN messenger, very responsive, yadda yadda yadda.

Anyway, I have had only a day to test it out, but it seems to work beautifully. I'm happy that I went wit a Wizard 200 series instead of the 100 series (like the Cingular version) because there are more cases designed for that phone.

He's got about 10 of them going on EBay right now for about $560 depending on the exchange rates. Figured I would point everyone in his direction.

http://stores.ebay.com/bilalmussa-online

Hope this helps...

Posted by: exchguy

Quote:

Originally Posted by blueshockeynut

The initial launch of the 8125 will NOT INCLUDE AKU 2.0. The MSFP upgrade will be based on AKU 2.0.

I am trying to get more information on this and will let everyone know what I find out.

JB

Wow. Can't say I'm that surprised though. Aside from some obscure company in China (Gigabyte) supposedly releasing a phone with AKU 2.0. Nobody has seen this on any device outside of Redmond. I figured Microsoft was being a bit too optimistic with the supposed carrier/OEM adoption of AKU 2.0. My guess is that it will be end of Q1-Q2 at a minimum before we start seeing anyone releasing AKU 2.0 upgrades.

Posted by: wuerchj

I looked at the Mini S before, but it's QWERTZ and not QWERTY keyboard...

Posted by: pgray007

Quote:

Originally Posted by blueshockeynut

The initial launch of the 8125 will NOT INCLUDE AKU 2.0. The MSFP upgrade will be based on AKU 2.0.

I am trying to get more information on this and will let everyone know what I find out.

JB

So does that mean no direct push!!?!?!?!?

This is what we in the industry call "horse*****!"

Posted by: pgray007

Another question for those in the know/owners of k-jam/9100: Do these phones use "normal" mini-usb connections to charge? I have an SMT5600 that has a standard mini-usb plug, but uses some funny business that requires a specific charger. I'd like to be able to use my iGo "universal" charger rather than schlepping around yet another cable.

Posted by: trottintrails

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dubaruba

My contract with Cingular expires tomorrow!

Considering the poor customer service and not so great signal strength and slower data network of Cingular - along with their repeated delays in introducing new devices and the fact that I rarely travel outside the country, I gave up on the 8125 and today ordered a XV6700 from Verizon.

EVDO will be sweet - I'll doubt I'll even need the integrated wifi.

The only downside I see is that Verizon disabled voice when using a data connection, but i hear that can be fixed pretty easily with a hack.

Enjoy your waiting friends. I am one customer who has given up on Cingular.

Matt

Apparently, there is a registry hack that will turn the Verizon phone's wireless connection back on. I can't remember where i saw it, but it's there.

Posted by: smcassara

Quote:

Originally Posted by ASimpleFarmer

i remember that some reps from utah have different prices for some reason

utah.. i hear it's pretty, i'm from chicago tho.. not that living in utah is a bad thing. i'll take a ride out there to pick one up 100 <

napolean was from utah...

Posted by: fone_fanatic

Quote:

Originally Posted by pgray007

Another question for those in the know/owners of k-jam/9100: Do these phones use "normal" mini-usb connections to charge? I have an SMT5600 that has a standard mini-usb plug, but uses some funny business that requires a specific charger. I'd like to be able to use my iGo "universal" charger rather than schlepping around yet another cable.

yes it uses a normal mini usb cable

also about the comment of the mini S with QWERTZ not QWERTY, i think thats only for the german one. you can also go for the Qtek 9100 or imate Kjam, they are the same device, just different names

i got sick of waiting for the 8125, also dont like ohw they downgraded the wifi, so got myself a Kjam 2 days ago and i'm LOVING IT!!! paid $730 with a 5 year warranty!

Does anyone know if i can put the 8125 rom on my Kjam? cuz i'm with cingular and think it would be better to have a cingular provided rom for compatibility issues.

oh yah, one last thing, the dopod 838 is a wiza100 like the 8125, why isn't anyone goin for one of those?

Posted by: wuerchj

Quote:

Originally Posted by fone_fanatic

oh yah, one last thing, the dopod 838 is a wiza100 like the 8125, why isn't anyone goin for one of those?

Because it's lots harder to get them in the US. I played with one when I was in Malaysia in Nov. but they wanted around $800 for it. I haven't seen any 838's for sale in the $600-$650 range.

Posted by: CrazyKaks

i have a car amplifier for mini usb on my motorola you guys think that the 8125 will be able to plug into it and use it for the amplifier...

Posted by: brewm12

ughhhhh this is so annoying

i've gotten a couple of phones from cingular because i was tired of waiting for this
but i returned them all and now i just want this to come out
i have a 8000 rollover minutes & i want to stick to cingular.
i can't stand waiting anymore

this sucks

i know if i get a different phone i will just return it so i can get this one
I CAN'T STAND THIS uggghhh

Posted by: smithtec

PGREY007 I concur with fone fanatic, it is a miniUSB. I purchased the QTEC9100 from Mad Monkey Boy in NJ and I am loving it. I hope however that someone comes out with a higher capacity battery for it though. Now to satisfy anyone that may be patrolling this thread ready to pounce on a seemingly off topic post. I will say that the 8125 when it does come out (as long as cingular hasent jacked it up too much) will be a great phone and should satisfy the majority of you people that are waiting for it. If you are in the NYC area and want to see the 9100 version of the 8125 in person just pm me.

Posted by: Free Man

So there are no current extended batteries out for the kjam, 9100 or 8125? I imagine them to be the same?

Posted by: I have a phone

interestingly the battery life on the 8125 is excellent in my opinion. Even when using speaker phone for extended periods (3 hours) - which normally is a huge drain

Posted by: SZ_Editor

Quote:

Originally Posted by wuerchj

I looked at the Mini S before, but it's QWERTZ and not QWERTY keyboard...

Actually, that's not true... the UK version is QWERTY, which is what I have.

Posted by: jlczl

Not all mini usb's are created equal. The one for the SMT 5600 is the right one. Not just any mini usb will do though. Some are rated at a different amperage or something, so they only trickle charge instead of fully charging the unit.

Posted by: Perceptions

Quote:

Originally Posted by I have a phone

interestingly the battery life on the 8125 is excellent in my opinion. Even when using speaker phone for extended periods (3 hours) - which normally is a huge drain

I do find battery life excellent thanks to WM5 having persistent storage such as smartphones. With WM2003SE everything ran on RAM which would use the battery much faster, now RAM is only accessed when needed saving battery.

Posted by: stormysark9

I had the AV5600 prior to getting a 9100 from MMB (I use Cingular). All of my car and home chargers for the 5600 work perfectly and charge quickly with my 9100. Finally a nice integration with equipment. A friend's verizon though did not work at all, so it may vary, but the 5600 does work with the 9100. I got a flexible case from boxwave, search ironically for the 8125 case and it appears. The button holes line up nearly perfectly and it adds hardly any size to the phone and protects it GREAT. I got an alumnium case initially, but it zeros out any reception since the antenna is internal. The same friend is getting the Verizon version of the 8125 Mon or Tues and I am going to see if he can use my alumnium case since the antenna is external.

-This case is NOT the sticky case like previous versions, it attracts no extra dust, but keeps the phone protected during drops or general wear and tear and comes in multiple colors.

http://boxwave.com/products/flexisk...r-8125_1053.htm

Posted by: dday64

Someone in another thread mentioned that the phone was listed www.cingularextras.com.

I went to check and it is.

Here's an odd thing:

Since when is it black? I mean, I think it looks great like that, but..

Posted by: idic_2000

I am giving up and going with Verizon. What bothers me the most about Cingular is they announce their UMTS system, but no phones till midyear at best. What I realized about the Cingular 8125 vs. the Verizon 6700 is that I was waiting to settle for EDGE. How bad is that?!?!? Waiting to settle..... Well, since verizon has the mobile with the data rate (and has for a year), I think its time for me to fly! Thanks for all the advice and help. I'll keep in touch. Regards!

Posted by: orion2087

This thread is so long, its impossible to find anything. =P

Which page had the user pics of the 8125 in someone's hand?

Posted by: stez38

Quote:

Originally Posted by orion2087

This thread is so long, its impossible to find anything. =P

Which page had the user pics of the 8125 in someone's hand?

91
http://www.howardforums.com/showthr...1&page=91&pp=15

Posted by: smcassara

Quote:

Originally Posted by dday64

Someone in another thread mentioned that the phone was listed www.cingularextras.com.

I went to check and it is.

Here's an odd thing:

Since when is it black? I mean, I think it looks great like that, but..

according to the screenshot, it's also sporting wm2003se.. which we know it doesn't. i don't think i like the black.

Posted by: Free Man

I don't like the black one bit either, I like the all silver as in the Kjam...it's much better looking overall. If it is black, that will make the decision simple.

Posted by: brewm12

[B]whatever i'm sick of waiting i'm just going to get the 2125. the 8125 will be too big also. ugh i hate cingular for doing this to me, but its for the better.

Posted by: ajpprc

Quote:

Originally Posted by brewm12

[B]whatever i'm sick of waiting i'm just going to get the 2125. the 8125 will be too big also. ugh i hate cingular for doing this to me, but its for the better.

I too got to the point you did and bought the 2125, its a great little device, but if you need to do alot of data input (like me) you may end up taking it back and waiting for the 8125 again (like me).

Posted by: Free Man

Interesting, I wonder if that boxwave rubber case will work on the Kams as well?

And by the way, I assume the pull out keyboard doesn't work while in this case?

Quote:

Originally Posted by stormysark9

I had the AV5600 prior to getting a 9100 from MMB (I use Cingular). All of my car and home chargers for the 5600 work perfectly and charge quickly with my 9100. Finally a nice integration with equipment. A friend's verizon though did not work at all, so it may vary, but the 5600 does work with the 9100. I got a flexible case from boxwave, search ironically for the 8125 case and it appears. The button holes line up nearly perfectly and it adds hardly any size to the phone and protects it GREAT. I got an alumnium case initially, but it zeros out any reception since the antenna is internal. The same friend is getting the Verizon version of the 8125 Mon or Tues and I am going to see if he can use my alumnium case since the antenna is external.

-This case is NOT the sticky case like previous versions, it attracts no extra dust, but keeps the phone protected during drops or general wear and tear and comes in multiple colors.

http://boxwave.com/products/flexisk...r-8125_1053.htm

Posted by: stormysark9

It should fit the k-jam, the mold is for the buttons in the photo of the 8125 on the site, and while they are not exact lineups, they are not thick and I have no trouble with mine at all. You will have to take it out to use the keyboard, but you will with any type of protective case that you place on the phone. I find with the touch screen that I do not have a great need for the keyboard as of yet.

Has anyone found a GPS program that actually works with MW05 yet? ? ?

Posted by: brewm12

i mainly txt, use voice, the occasional internet, and email. what should i do: get the 8125 or the 2125. i want WM05 & a 1.3 mp camera, the keyboard is a plus but how much can it matter. i will also use calender features.

Posted by: jojo26

Quote:

Originally Posted by ajpprc

I just returned the 2125 this week....waiting on the 8125.
The 2125 is good but no wifi.

Posted by: pgray007

Quote:

Originally Posted by brewm12

i mainly txt, use voice, the occasional internet, and email. what should i do: get the 8125 or the 2125. i want WM05 & a 1.3 mp camera, the keyboard is a plus but how much can it matter. i will also use calender features.

I currently have both a SMT5600 and SX66, the "grandfathers" of the 2125 and 8125 running WM 2003. The smartphone (smt5600) is not a bad little device: phone works well, exchange sync is good (minus tasks, which is fixed with WM 5.0) and pictures, etc. work fine. Think of this as a "phone plus." You'll lose your mind if you do any serious scheduling or data input; the calendar on the smartphone just isn't there.

The SX66 on the other hand is a bit weaker as a phone (and larger), but great for email, and with the edition of Pocket Informant, a kick butt "life manager." The SX66 in this case is too big to lug around, and a little rough around the edges in terms of phone use (bluetooth issues, etc.).

The 5600 gets me 70% of where I need to be if I had a single device. If I didn't rely on doing a lot of data entry away from the PC, needed view access to email more than write, and had a relatively static schedule (students?) I think the 5600/2125 would do me fine. I'm away from my PC a lot, and need a solid PDA, email write capabilities, and a relatively small device, which is why I have the 5600 for phone and the SX66 is more an email/PDA. I'm hoping the 8125 will replace both of them, but I think the smartphone edition is great, as long as you'll do more data viewing than entry, and don't need robust scheduling.

Posted by: brewm12

thanks for your help on this one

i still can't decide though,

i'll wait 2 weeks and if the 8125 isnt out by then

, i'll just get the 2125.

Quote:

Originally Posted by pgray007

Posted by: uselessnanhai

yeah, i agree with pgray007. the 2125 is great if you're a student who wants occasional emails occasional web surfing, and mainly just a calendar, tasks, reading email. it's a phone first, with an extra bit of chocolate. the 8125 is more pda.. and the phone almost takes a backseat. it's built like a mini computer + oh yeah.. there's a phone function too. mainly, it's just how much typing vs viewing you're gonna be doing. alotta typing = 8125. otherwise.. go with the 2125. i couldnt wait for a 8125 though.. so i got a qtek 9100 =D

Posted by: brewm12

Quote:

Originally Posted by uselessnanhai

yeah, i agree with pgray007. the 2125 is great if you're a student who wants occasional emails occasional web surfing, and mainly just a calendar, tasks, reading email. it's a phone first, with an extra bit of chocolate. the 8125 is more pda.. and the phone almost takes a backseat. it's built like a mini computer + oh yeah.. there's a phone function too. mainly, it's just how much typing vs viewing you're gonna be doing. alotta typing = 8125. otherwise.. go with the 2125. i couldnt wait for a 8125 though.. so i got a qtek 9100 =D

ughhh i can't handle this. i'm a student who emails alot and who txts alot. i had a sidekick 2 for a week but t-mobile service was bad and i didnt want a seperate phone for voice and data ( i had cingular+t-mobile ). i loved the sidekick except for its gargantuate size. i hope the 8125 is small enough to fit in my pocket. UUGHHHHh this is so annoying

someone please tell me, is it worth the wait? or not.

Posted by: stranter

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I am a student who currently uses the SX66 (and have been since December 04) - very similar in size and functionality to the 8125 and I would have to say that it is a great tool but only worth it if you truly intend to do a significant amount of data entry/internet related stuff - by signifcant I mean at least a dozen or so text messages and at least 5-6 emails a day. Otherwise the extra size can weigh you down and become burdonsome. If the 8125 is anything like the sx66 than you will notice that it is a PDA with a phone feature although a well integrated phone feature. IMO a phone like the 8125 or SX66 is only worth it if you intend to make use of programs like;

Word - buy a bluetooth keyboard and use your phone as a laptop replacement on trips - dont bring it into class and type notes tho - it prob wont help you get any dates

Excel - I run a student organization and I keep the budgets in excel files on my phone, this way I can always have access and make changes as they come in and when i make updates it easily syncs with my laptop

Powerpoint - you can run basic ppt presentations - just get the vga adapter and any basic powerpoint presentation can be run, by basic I mean text, pictures and a few transitions, animations tend to mess things up.

Media Player 9/10 - 1gb SD cards so you can watch a movie or listen to music. 1gb is about two 2 hr movies or about 250-300 mp3's.

IE - good enough and fast enough so that you can check news, sports, and stocks. IE in PocketPC 2003 or WM5 doesnt pare down websites either I find that looking at espn.com, drudgereport.com, cnn.com, gmail etc. are doable although its not blazing fast. Gmail does have a new feature where it detects that you are using a PDA and cuts down on all the junk and makes it much faster. Avantgo is a clipping service that downloads content from news, sports, and entertainment sites (washington post, NY Times etc.) and puts them in an easy to read format. You can sync using the GPRS connection and I find this program to be neat cause you can download the top stories from major newspapers on the fly.

Calendar/tasks/contacts - the core and probably the most useful programs. These programs integrate nicely with Outlook and if you use it in conjunction with 4smartphone.com's exchange server package you can be on top of emails and appointments. The OTA email from 4smartphone.com is not exactly like using a blackberry but close enough for me - It sends a text msg to your phone than your phone connects to GPRS then to the server and downloads your email, you can even get attachments. It integrates with the Outlook on the phone and makes replies easy. The calendar is great and I don't know what I would do without - but you do have to keep it up by either typing the appts as they come in or entering them in your desktop then syncing.

If you cant see yourself using all the phones capabilities (and many programs) than it just doesn't make sense to spend the money. Also you should note that to really get the most out of your phone you gotta have money to buy the supporting accessories like the memory card, the bluetooth gadget, the vga adapter, or any of the email/data services. If you blow all you cash on the phone and don't have the ability to get the accessories which really enhance the phones capabilities than you probably are wasting your money. Also IMO don't buy the 8125 (or any other PDA phone) unless you intend on getting the unlimited data plan cause if you don't get the data plan then you can't realistically sign up for the really cool/useful stuff like exchange email servers, avantgo, or use IE. Some say that the integrated wifi should be enough to cover you when you need it but I find that I am often in a car or bus when I want to do internet related stuff and in those situations you can't use the wifi. If it really is just to do email text and phone than the blackberry is probably the best choice. The only caveat to all that is if you just want the coolest latest gadget than the 8125 is probably it....at least for another 6 months.

Posted by: stuXstu

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Originally Posted by brewm12

someone please tell me, is it worth the wait? or not.

OK I am a salesman. The only reason I want this phone is for the PIM and keyboard. I could care less about internet access or push email (company won't support it). I have a PPC (Ipaq 2210) and need to constantly input data into Agenda Fusion. I have 5000 + contacts (will be nice to dial from contacts again) and 20-30 projects going. I have Excel/Acess db's that I run on my Ipaq that will be very usefull when I have a keyboard. The only people I send messages (text/mms) to are my wife, sister and newphew. I like the 1.3 carmera for taking a few snap shots of projects and my kids. Bluetooth will be nice also. I also want GPS on it.

Simply put, I want to go back to convergance. I miss my Kyocera 7135, but not the square screen. That is why the treo is the second choice for me. If the 8125 doesn't come out soon I will have to seriously consider the treo or a Qtek 9100.

Posted by: macfreak

I am a generally happy Sidekick II user who would love a little more speed.

The Sprint 6700 (similar to the 8125) is about 20% less wide than the SK II, at least as thick though. i compared in the store yesterday.

Posted by: brewm12

any updates on the release of the 8125??

Posted by: brewm12

i send about 45 txt's a day.

Posted by: bikemanj7

So with pocket Internet Explorer could i go to like myspace or yahoo? cause with my sidekick i could! just t-mobile service sucked!

Posted by: KikoKazuma

Yes you can...

Posted by: bikemanj7

right on! so it only has trouble with sites that have java script? any other issues with browsing? and can you watch wmv if they are on a site?

Posted by: dday64

My only issue with this phone is that it's size doesn't let me keep it in my pocket - something I do at work every day. (I work a retail job so I can't really have the phone on me). I'd have to keep it somewhere safe. I might have to buy this phone unlocked and then use my new contract to get a SLVR for work

Of course I'd have to switch the SIM chip around all the time.

But I'm starting college again soon, and I think the 8125 would be great. I can keep my schedule on there, and homework, etc and it's always with me - it's my phone! In the past I never kept my PDA's around enough. I also like to look things up online a lot, and say if I want to find a location or whatever it's hard on the v551. And I keep all my expenses on an Excel spreadsheet at home, so now I could have it with me wherever I am.

I wish there was a good belt clip case. Ah well.

Also, I still have the old grandfathered Media Works plan with the unlimited internet. Is that the data plan I need for this?

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Also, I still have the old grandfathered Media Works plan with the unlimited internet. Is that the data plan I need for this?

Im grandfathered on that too. Thats the ideal plan for this unit.

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Im grandfathered on that too. Thats the ideal plan for this unit.

That plan is only meant for smart phones and regular cells. If Cingular finds out you are on a PDA or laptop with it, they will move you to the PDA/Laptop connect plan.

I don't think they can detect it but I wouldn't go telling them...

Posted by: dday64

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No they can't tell. I've gone online with my laptop via bluetooth A LOT

Posted by: I have a phone

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and can you watch wmv if they are on a site?

yes, I do it frequently while travelling

Posted by: brewm12

does anyone know the release date?

Posted by: bikemanj7

I'm hoping for jan. 23! but who knows! its still up in the air!

Posted by: Fonaphile

I started with Cingular when they were PacBell Wireless and my first phone with them was a bag phone. I've been loyal...but I've had it. I'm tired of waiting for them to release the phones I need. Especially when their competitors and manufacturers have already released them. The 8125 would be immensley useful with my current job.

I made the call and my XV6700 from Verizon will be in my hands this Tuesday. Only $299 when you get the unlimited data plan. Unless it totally sucks...I'll be gone for good (I have a 15-day window to undo my carrier change though). Good luck all! Shouldn't be long now...I'm sure this phone will be released 16 days after I activate my Verizon account.

Posted by: grifflax

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He's right. I work for Cingular, and the minute I see you flashing a pda on a media works plan ($19.99 monthly), or a media net unlimited ($19.99 monthly), I quickly switch you to a PDVU, or PDA unlimited plan ($39.99 monthly)....which gets me more commission and you a bigger bill. So keep that brick in your pocket (not that it would really matter, because if I'm really looking at your account I can see the large amount of kb transferred, and identify what IMEI your using anyway, and whether you're on the right data plan......

Posted by: eimajuno

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Originally Posted by grifflax

Well that is crap. Remind me never to go to your store. Media works works perfectly with everything other than a Blackberry. There is no reason to get that plan.

Posted by: cstyle226

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Are you for real?

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