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Originally Posted by Rock3nrenigade
Im not waiting
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Originally Posted by Rock3nrenigade
Im not waiting
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Originally Posted by nskgti23
Remember that if activated with unlimited data (ie 39.99) the device will be 299.99 because you get an additional $50 off.
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Originally Posted by eimajuno
That is not a bad price for a PDA phone. However I am not re upping my contract. Its full retail for me. Month to month + a 1st generation 32k sim =
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Originally Posted by Jelly-480
This is for all you Cingular reps or all knowing. I understand that the 8125 is locked but if we buy it at the no contract price are we not paying retail? Therefore are we not entitled to the unlock code from Cingular per their rules? Also, can you get it unlocked if you are going to Canada or Mexico or is only across the Atlantic considered international?
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Originally Posted by myke
I need this phone now!!!
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Originally Posted by fowen
Should the screen protectors for the Sprint PPC-6700 work for this as well? I would like to order some and get them in before I get the phone because I know I will not be able to wait to use it after I get it.
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Originally Posted by nskgti23
How about you wait for you little monday morning updates until close to the 22nd... That has been the date suggested by a number of people.
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Originally Posted by Omega2008
More time to rack up more money haha.
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Originally Posted by fowen
I would rather wait another month or two and have them get the issues worked out instead of working out the issues after it is realized with me dealing with someone who has no idea how to fix issues except to tell me to "reset the phone".
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Originally Posted by gps
As in "save up money to buy the phone?" I hear ya.
I have to convince my boss that I need a new handset for "business purposes". Maybe I can convince them that I can help sell data features if I have this device. What? You don't think that'll do it? |
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Originally Posted by nskgti23
I don't think so... Especially if you are in retail...
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I'm MUCH too old for that. I'd be in prison, as my patience is was to short these days. |
Originally Posted by fowen
I would rather wait another month or two and have them get the issues worked out instead of working out the issues after it is realized with me dealing with someone who has no idea how to fix issues except to tell me to "reset the phone".
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Originally Posted by zachavm
You never know with these cell companies. I'm sure they want it out fast just as much as we do. It means more money, but it's good they want to get it right.
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No, but really, I bet $50 Palm hits another one out of left field that we never saw coming.
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Originally Posted by zachavm
Also, from what the poster over at mgn.com said, they already have 20,000 of them in a warehouse. The delay must have to do with something else. Don't know what though.
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Originally Posted by Quatre
Apache was supposed to come out for business customers today for vzw as the UT Starcom xv6700 but now that I hear Sprint does have good evdo coverage in my area I may just get it tomorrow with them as they have much cheaper data plan. Sorry guys, I'd love to join you on waiting some more for the 8100 but I can't deal with the slow edge speeds on my treo so i'll be using my gsm carrier just for voice and maybe sms/mms. Once Cingular gets UMTS/HDPA deployed I'll be back on gsm for data and never need cdma again.
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I knew it was Quatre....
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Originally Posted by gps
Please enlighten me. What issues are there with this phone?
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Originally Posted by Quatre
don't feel bad. the Apache for vzw (xv6700) was supposed to come out on Monday or today and didn't either. Just get the ppc6700 on sprint with evdo and cheaper data plan then vzw and prob cingular too even at slower edge speeds.
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Originally Posted by zachavm
I had heard that the Q wasn't coming to cingular anymore, it could be wrong though.
http://www.mobilegadgetnews.com/ind...showtopic=10003 Zach |
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Originally Posted by GardnerMS
I'm not nearly in the know as several people who have posted, but I had to call Cingular Data Support to initiate a warranty exchange for my Treo 650. While I was on the phone, I casually asked about the HT 8125 and he wasn't sure what i meant. As soon as I said "HTC Wizard" he knew exactly what I meant (in fact, he wants one) and it sounded like it was coming out this month....
I definately want one of these... and I am very strongly anti-MS... Oh well.. this leopard is changing his spots... mG |
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Originally Posted by WebbyBabe
I would like to know if you do multi tasking with the 8125 like you can with the Sidekick 2. I Know with my Treo 650 I can't multi task.
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Originally Posted by Quatre
don't feel bad. the Apache for vzw (xv6700) was supposed to come out on Monday or today and didn't either. Just get the ppc6700 on sprint with evdo and cheaper data plan then vzw and prob cingular too even at slower edge speeds.
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Originally Posted by zachavm
gps:
Thanks for the correction. Sorry for not giving you credit. I look at so many of threads about this that I sometimes get confused on where I saw things and who said what, but that just shows they can deploy it when they want. If there is a delay, it is not related to changing the phone. It would have to do with the network, marketing, or some sort of agreement to delay. IMHO Zach |
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Originally Posted by gps
Your tag beside your avatar reads "Radiation is good". Well, radiation is NOT good and it appears you've been subjected to a little to much.
What is your purpose and why are you HERE? |
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Originally Posted by Quatre
don't feel bad. the Apache for vzw (xv6700) was supposed to come out on Monday or today and didn't either. Just get the ppc6700 on sprint with evdo and cheaper data plan then vzw and prob cingular too even at slower edge speeds.
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Originally Posted by Omega2008
If your company is running Exchange Server 2003 with SP2 and you install the Messaging pack on your phone when its finally released by Microsoft, then yeah you will have push email. Only people who have access to an exchange server or pay for exchange services thru online vendors will be able to take advantage of these new features.
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Originally Posted by taylorh
I'm interested in making the move to WM5 from my Treo 650. This HTC is finally the right device with almost everything we want (within reason.) I'm reluctant to get it before I get a chance to compare it to a GSM/EDGE(/UMTS??) Treo 700w (with WM5.) But the Treo 700w for Cingular is most likely at least 1/2 a year off and the HTC is here soon. Besides my gut tells me the HTC 8125 is going to be better.
We'll see, it looks like it's one that will finally be worth the upgrade and do those things I wish I could with Treo 650. I use XPress mail, so at least I'll still have that. I hope MobiTV supports WM5 soon (I'm sure they will) because I'll miss it. Stereo bluetooth headset support, streaming windows media, multi-tasking, Hello! I just wish it was a UMTS phone. But that's not really a big deal right now. |
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Originally Posted by supernub
i think the 8125 offers everything you could want outside of umts. i dont like a few of the wm5 features tho.
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Originally Posted by ASimpleFarmer
usually I would say, your market wouldn't be in a UMTS area, but your so close to san fran that UMTS would rock on the HTC
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Originally Posted by sn0zc0r3
after reading all of this, im super excited for this phone.
however...earlier on in the thread, someone said that the battery life was bad and it was slow. another site also said it had a slow processor (see here.) so...how IS the battery life/speed for this thing then eh? im not about to throw down $500 bucks on a phone that lasts me 3 hours and runs slower than my grandma... |
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Originally Posted by Jayshmay
Supposedly, Cingular was suppose to launch a 3G network on November 1st!
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Originally Posted by sparktography
Which ones don't you like? It offers everything the Palm platform offers with the Treo 650, as well as being a true multi-threaded, multi-tasking operating system. Not to mention not crashing frequently. WM5.0 is the first Microsoft product I've been really excited about since Windows 2000.
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Originally Posted by supernub
Just a few buigs with file access restriction and the multi-task functionality.
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Originally Posted by Omega2008
The Apache is no faster than the Wizard.....The seem the same to me and perform well.
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Originally Posted by Omega2008
The Apache is no faster than the Wizard.....The seem the same to me and perform well.
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Originally Posted by zaslek
side note for taylorh, you dont need to wait for mobitv on WM devices like this :P i use smartvideo on my 6682 (smartvideo supports WM and series 60) quality is about 3x better than mobi, never laggy, slow frames, ect. plus it supports WiFi connections and has um er "special interest" channels as well as the basics. just my 2 cents for you :P http://smartvideo.com
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Originally Posted by sparktography
I can see that. I have yet to play with WM5.0 myself, but I've heard great things about it from friends who got the Sprint 6700. I can't wait to see how well they have implemented the OS first hand. The Sidekick has the best multitasking functionality of any phone I've used yet in terms of being able to load and perform tasks simultainously in the background, but the sidekick is just not a robust enough platform to pull me away from WM5.0 or Palm. Palm suffers the same problems (every time you jump back to the browser it should not try to reload the page).
I guess I just get to play the waiting game. Oh what a cruel game it can be! |
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Originally Posted by pjammin10
I know this issue has been thrown around, but out of curiosity -- have you or anyone else you know had direct contact with the Cingular 8125 (Wizard 100 series)? And if so, is it as plastic-y feeling as it looks, or does it feel as solid as that of the K-Jam (Wizard 200 series)?
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Originally Posted by importluva
The 16th might be the day that we're all waiting for
http://forums.cingular.com/cng/boar...essage.id=18155 |
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Originally Posted by sparktography
I sure hope so. It's been really frustrating - all these launch dates slipping out here and there. I've heard the 11th, 14th, 16th, 25th, and december 15th now. Just release the damn thing already!
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Originally Posted by sparktography
The problem is I don't use exchange (IMAP > *) so I'm really hoping that they have significantly improved the IMAP support. As much as I hate my crashy Treo650, I have to admin that Chatteremail is the best mobile email client I've ever used. It can idle on the server, and does not have to do a full walk of my mail every 1 or 5 minutes. It's basically push email at that point. The main advantages (aside from speed) being that it does not use a lot of data packets checking the mail on a set schedule so you don't run down your battery as fast. I disliked the WM 2003 mail client for this reason and hope they have significantly improved it.
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Originally Posted by TerryMathews
Having just deployed my own personal Exchange server in anticipation of my new WM5 phone, I do have to admit that it's a really well-designed server. Anyone with a background in basic e-mail tech (know how to work with DNS, FQDNs, SMTP, IPs, routing, etc) and has made more than basic use of the Users control panel in Win2k or WinXP would be able to do 90% of the stuff you need to do in Exchange.
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Originally Posted by TerryMathews
That's not to say Exchange isn't worth it. Having just deployed my own personal Exchange server in anticipation of my new WM5 phone, I do have to admit that it's a really well-designed server. Anyone with a background in basic e-mail tech (know how to work with DNS, FQDNs, SMTP, IPs, routing, etc) and has made more than basic use of the Users control panel in Win2k or WinXP would be able to do 90% of the stuff you need to do in Exchange.
I'm really looking forward to making use of the whole package though - contact sync, calendar sync, e-mail sync. Yes, I know that I could just ActiveSync with Outlook directly, but this gives me a few other options as well; OWA in specific. |
OS X is the only platform I really want to touch with a GUI aside from my phone. I realize that M$ is trying to push their platform with their mobile device, I just think it's kind of sad. Why bother to restrict how someone can interact with their device using open standards (like IMAP) at all? If Exchange is really that great then focus on making it so great that everyone wants to use it - rather than force them to use it to get the most out of their device.|
Originally Posted by pjammin10
I'm at a very basic level when it comes down to e-mail, however, I can pick up tech coding fairly easily. My primary e-mail account is an IMAP account through my University. Would I be able to route that through an exchange server? Do you know of any good internet guides that would provide a how-to for setting up an exchange server (i.e.: the software/hardware I need to do it, etc.)? Thanks in advance!
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Originally Posted by sparktography
Sadly I don't think you can do something quite like that. It would be possible to have your IMAP mail forwarded to the exchange account (and there are multiple hosted exchange providers out there if you want to pay a small monthly fee) but there is no way to have the exchange server crawl your IMAP account and pull mail in automatically.
If you have a desktop somewhere you might be able to cobble together a redirector with a copy of outlook and some creative rules or macros. That might provide a nearly seamless link between the accounts including preserving your folder structure and such. |
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Originally Posted by sparktography
Yeah - I know it's not a bad server. The only problem with that is that I don't have outlook - I'm a unix geek
OS X is the only platform I really want to touch with a GUI aside from my phone. I realize that M$ is trying to push their platform with their mobile device, I just think it's kind of sad. Why bother to restrict how someone can interact with their device using open standards (like IMAP) at all? If Exchange is really that great then focus on making it so great that everyone wants to use it - rather than force them to use it to get the most out of their device.Just my $0.02 |
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Originally Posted by pjammin10
Any web links you could provide me with that would go into greater detail for when I'm bored as hell at 3am on a Thursday morning?
Right now, my setup (while using Mozilla Thunderbird) is alright: IMAP (Temple U) incoming, SMTP (Gmail) outgoing, Gmail information redirection (Sends my info out as if it is coming right through my Temple U. mail server). I only voice concern because in the past I've had problems with SMTP servers, which seem to be the biggest pain in the *** if you can't find a static one. Luckly Gmail has worked extremely well, except for when I'm connected to my University's proxy (any suggestions there?). I just want to have flawless Incoming and Outgoing support while using *Wifi* with my PPCphone. |
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Originally Posted by pjammin10
Any web links you could provide me with that would go into greater detail for when I'm bored as hell at 3am on a Thursday morning?
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Originally Posted by TerryMathews
Exchange has protocol support for IMAP and POP3. No reason you can't use whatever protocol your favorite e-mail program uses for e-mail at home and use Exchange on your PDA.
And, they aren't restricting it, they're just not spending megabucks on making it work great. Since the SDK is both open and free, I don't think you can blame them too much. If the community wanted a great IMAP reader, all they have to do is write one (Or pester ChatterMail's author to make a port). Above anything else, Microsoft is a solution provider. This is their solution. As far as business practices Microsoft employs, this is pretty darn tame. |
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Originally Posted by sparktography
but hey - you know what they say about the squeaky wheel...
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Originally Posted by sparktography
I sure hope so. It's been really frustrating - all these launch dates slipping out here and there. I've heard the 11th, 14th, 16th, 25th, and december 15th now. Just release the damn thing already!
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Originally Posted by jetli
I've been hearing the 18th and 29th alot, and even one person putting it at January of next year!
I wonder... |
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Originally Posted by pjammin10
It's definitely not going to be January... They already have it listed on all their current rebate forms.
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Originally Posted by importluva
Cingular forum has a member posting SKUs for the 8100/8125 and a date of 11/16 as being available. Link is in this thread
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Originally Posted by gps
Well, I tried to bring the 8125 and 2125 up on the conference call today and was basically ignored.
However, I emailed "him" and he responded with the following: "Current ETA's are 11/29 for the 8125 and 11/22 for the C2125. Of course these are subject to change." So, the waiting continues. No other real earth-shattering news on the "data front". |
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Originally Posted by John-Fox
And also, why can I not find an HTC website that describes these phones, like most other brands have?
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Originally Posted by John-Fox
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Originally Posted by John-Fox
I just noticed while looking at a Cingular rebate form someone posted in another thread ( http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=769279 ) about the 81## and the 21##, they called the phone Cingular 81## and Cingular 21## ... are these phones not going to be called HTC blah blah blah? Why is that? And also, why can I not find an HTC website that describes these phones, like most other brands have?
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Originally Posted by gps
It seems they'll be called the C8125 and the C2125. C standing for Cingular as in Cingular branded.
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Originally Posted by taylorh
How big is it compared to say, a Treo 650?
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Originally Posted by taylorh
How big is it compared to say, a Treo 650?
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Originally Posted by diadjika
gps can you confirm the 16 th for cingular b2b customers
http://forums.cingular.com/cng/boar...essage.id=18155 |
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Originally Posted by sparktography
Check out http://www.geek.com/hwswrev/pda/wizard/ for photos of the Treo 650 compared to the K-JAM. I'm assuming the K-JAM and the 8125 are roughly the same size. The photos show that it's virtually the same size as the 650 in every dimension sans antenna.
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Originally Posted by zachavm
Man this sucks. With the date being so close, we all want more info, but in truth we really need to just wait. A couple of weeks is nothing compared to how long I have been waiting for this (about a year to get out of a contract and find the right device) so I know I can wait. I just don't want to. I want to hear more info about it. Whatever happens, I will be calling cs and asking them about the phone anyway.
Also, someone mentioned special deals through universities. I checked it out, and my school has such a deal. I could get the 39.99 plan for 33.99. Only thing is that it is online and doesn't have an option for 1-year contract. Also, I think the rebates might be different. Does anyboy have any experience with this. I want a 1-year with the 8125 for the 399 price, but I don't know if I can do it and get the cheaper plan. Zach |
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Originally Posted by John-Fox
And also, why can I not find an HTC website that describes these phones, like most other brands have?
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Originally Posted by nskgti23
www.htcamerica.net (US Site, still being built)
www.htc.com.tw (Taiwanese site, with English) HTC is a OEM/ODM. They do not sell phones like Nokia or Motorola, but rather build them for other companies. They have been building PocketPC's for HP for a while. The business model is actually very smart because they don't have to pony up for any real marketing costs. That is left to whom ever sells the devices they build... |
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Originally Posted by zachavm
If you've had a pocket pc at all, chances are it was made by them. Unless it was made by samsung, most every other ppc phone edition and smartphone was originally made by them. They make most of hp's products, they make the treo (though they didn't design it), and I think they make dell's ppcs, though I am not sure.
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Originally Posted by myke
Why would cingular call this phone the c8125? The Sidekick and Razr wouldnt have been nearly as successful had they been called the s2983 & r1204 respectively. Cingular Wizard? Had a nice ring
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Originally Posted by fowen
From what I understand HTC builds quite a few of the PDA/PPC/PPC Phones/Smartphones that are on the market. They originally built the SMT5600, they make the Treo's (and maybe other devices for Palm), the infamous @migo PD-600C and I believe the SX-66 that AT&T currently carries.
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Originally Posted by myke
Why would cingular call this phone the c8125? The Sidekick and Razr wouldnt have been nearly as successful had they been called the s2983 & r1204 respectively. Cingular Wizard? Had a nice ring
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AHHHH the waiting!
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Originally Posted by aaronscool
HTC is the #1 manufacturer of Windows based phones and PDA's. They run a strict OEM based business and all their products get rebranded on the consumer market.
The Cingular phones will be the first time (to my knowledge) that Cingular will brand their own hardware/model cutting out the middle man manufacturers like Audiovox for the SMT-5600 for example. |
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Originally Posted by importluva
I just realized how useful having wifi will be where I am. My campus is blanketed wtih wifi, and most of the buildings I frequent are hotspots
AHHHH the waiting! |
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Originally Posted by importluva
I just realized how useful having wifi will be where I am. My campus is blanketed wtih wifi, and most of the buildings I frequent are hotspots
AHHHH the waiting! |
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Originally Posted by aaronscool
HTC is the #1 manufacturer of Windows based phones and PDA's. They run a strict OEM based business and all their products get rebranded on the consumer market.
The Cingular phones will be the first time (to my knowledge) that Cingular will brand their own hardware/model cutting out the middle man manufacturers like Audiovox... |
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Originally Posted by Omega2008
like the way over priced Moto Q......Motorola has lost their minds.
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Stick to those handsets guys
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Originally Posted by iav122003
the HP67xx will blow anything else not a Treo or Wizard or JasJar out of the water.
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Originally Posted by pjammin10
Most definitely. The HP hw67xx is going to be the greatest convergence device to date. The thing is super tiny (for being a ppc), has GPS, WM5, Wifi, keyboard, touch screen, and an Intel 416Mhz processor. Couldn't ask for anything else. The only problem someone might have with it is the screen size. As long as you're not a hardcore PPC gamer, the HP hw67xx is the perfect device. And to top it all off, the HP has a built in screen cover. When thinking about size and protecting your precious gadget investment things like a standard, built-in screen cover could become a deciding factor in buying a unit.
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Originally Posted by gps
No, the only thing that I can confirm is what I was last told. That was "current ETAs are 11/29 for the 8125 and 11/22 for the C2125".
I have heard NOTHING else about either of these devices. Maybe something new will be said on our data call next Monday. |
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Originally Posted by grifflax
. . .lets hope the 8125 comes sooner than later because I just sold off the K-Jam I had bought last week and man I already miss it like a hot girl that I only got to be with for a few days...
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Originally Posted by jetli
I would be interested in this too if anyone has any info on it? That is the first time I've heard wireless companies giving deals to University students though. I know phone companies (landlines) give shorter contract lengths for students (9 months vs. 12). It would be great if this is true though.
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Originally Posted by crownsrini
looks like this thread just became a HP67** from wizard thread!!!!!
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Originally Posted by zachavm
For one, it [HP 6700] is bigger than the wizard (about the same size as a blue angle or JasJar).
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Originally Posted by aadadams
I held both and the thickness of the wizard is a huge plus IMHO. The phone feels like a phone. The width of the HP and its screen size are it's largest drawbacks.
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Originally Posted by aadadams
In the hand and against the face the wizard feels like a phone and the HP feels like a PDA. Having the increased screen size and on demand keyboard is also a plus. BTW its not that bad in the pocket of a pair of jeans.
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Originally Posted by WebbyBabe
Does the HTC 8125 have WiFi?
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Originally Posted by pjammin10
There'd be no reason to buy it if it didn't.
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Originally Posted by pjammin10
Have you ever held an HP hw65xx in your hand? It's small as heck. I haven't held a wizard yet, but it's definitely thinner and maybe even a bit shorter (When comparing to a Treo).
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Originally Posted by MadMonkeyBoy
is WiFi in question?
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Originally Posted by Quatre
on the apache 6700 now. its a wizard with evdo =d. looked at the hp 6500 & liked the flip up screen protector but its nothing new or special. is that 6500 any good? wizard still better though. wha is the hp6700 about? will it be umts? not getting another pda phone on gsm till it has broadband. least gsm tro had edge over cdmas 1xrtt treo but blazer browser is slow treo sucks wth edge. cingular rep told me they would have had umts before vzw got evdo but the att merger delayed it. he said by next year not two & that some markets already had it & when I said no phones support it he said only in those markets. I don't think he knew what he was talkin unless he meant other countries. anyway hopefully it comes that soon in about a year th |