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The old HTC/Cingular 8100 & 8125 smartphone thread
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Posted by: RulinSmoove

WOAH... HOLD ON A SECOND.

we have been seeing two different designs of this phone. if you goto the first page of this thread you see IMO a more attractive, stylish version of the 8125, which i hope cingular releases.

I just looked on phonescoop and this is what i found...

http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=781

please tell me this isnt the 8125 that will be released to cingular, it is grotesque compared to the version that is posted on the first page of this thread.... anyone?

Posted by: jlczl

Quote:

Originally Posted by RulinSmoove

WOAH... HOLD ON A SECOND.

we have been seeing two different designs of this phone. if you goto the first page of this thread you see IMO a more attractive, stylish version of the 8125, which i hope cingular releases.

I just looked on phonescoop and this is what i found...

http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=781

please tell me this isnt the 8125 that will be released to cingular, it is grotesque compared to the version that is posted on the first page of this thread.... anyone?

That is actually the QTek 9100 pictured. It has also been a general consensus that it is the more aesthetically pleasing of the 2 versions (100/Cingular vs. 200/K-Jam/QTek 9100) due to it's smoother, rounded design.

Posted by: Biochemlab

I like the 100 (8125) better than the 200... In fact, I kinda think the 200 looks cheezy and the 100 looks professional ( & HOT!! )

Posted by: dgriner

Quote:

Originally Posted by RulinSmoove

I would hardly classify the Qtek 9100 or the iMate KJam as "Grotesque". In fact I prefer the look of the HTC Wizard 200 design (Qtek & iMate) over the HTC 100 (Cingular 8125). Either way, I don't find either one grotesque. I've never seen a picture of the HTC 200 design with Cingular branding on it; so I think your safe.

Posted by: jetli

Quote:

Originally Posted by dgriner

Hahaha "grotesque". I actually prefer the 200 design, but I'll settle for the 100.

Posted by: myke

I definately prefer the 8125 look. Looks more profesional and slick. Less kindergarden toy/teenage girl phone (aka: sidekick)

Posted by: pjammin10

Quote:

Originally Posted by RulinSmoove

WOAH!... HOLD ON A SECOND.

Someone's been living under a rock for a while. Hehe.. Just kidding

Posted by: jcjdoss

Quote:

Originally Posted by myke

I definately prefer the 8125 look. Looks more profesional and slick. Less kindergarden toy/teenage girl phone (aka: sidekick)

I don't care who you are...That's

Posted by: RulinSmoove

Quote:

Originally Posted by myke

I definately prefer the 8125 look. Looks more profesional and slick. Less kindergarden toy/teenage girl phone (aka: sidekick)

my thought exactly!

ok, so grotesque was a lil overboard, but still... i like the more streamline, modern, simple design.

Posted by: pauldg

here's a page that explains it, but don't worry, the more classy one is the winner

http://www.phonescoop.com/articles/.../index.php?p=wm

Posted by: stillrockin

Personally, I think the 200 series phones are beautiful. Now the 100 series (the cingular 8100 series) is a nice looking phone, but it can't compare to the 200 series . . . . . But then you look at pricing, and suddenly that 100 series cingular branded phone looks pretty sexy don't it?? $700+ for the 200 series Vs. $450 non-contract price for the same motor, just a little different styling . . . . Yea, that 8100 Cingular phone is one good looking phone . . . .

Posted by: jcjdoss

To give some perspective this is the Cingular 8125 next to the SMT 5600. No it is not a real one. I just scaled it to size and printed.

You can print this picture and it should come out to the actual size of the unit.

It is a LOT smaller than I thought.

Posted by: Omega2008

Yes its near the same length of the SMT just thicker and wider.

Posted by: CA

What’s up with that ‘carrier-dependant J2ME’? Will Cingular?

Posted by: ASimpleFarmer

i read today that the sx-66 is EOL

thats a good step in the direction of the 8125

Posted by: badgermac

I've got some cash burning in my pocket, unfortanately due to a recent inheritence. I've been wanting either the 8125 or 2125, but I went to a store today and picked up a 6515. I'll play with it in hoping that within the month I can exchange it in-store for one of the new ones.

The only thing is that I really seem to like this 6515. No wifi of course, but I could get a MiniSD WiFi card. I never use the WiFi on my non-mobile phone iPaq though so no biggie. the GPS is cool, and since my original iPaq was WM2003SE this 6515 seems nice and familiar.

I'm a bit worried though about reports that WM2005 is slow and buggy. I'm almost wondering if I should wait and see how the new ones shake down.

Posted by: dstrauss

You are all wrong - what we need is the 200 series outer shell and 100 series keyboard - then you've got a winner.

Posted by: myke

So is this thing called the High Tech 8125? I guess that'd be better than just the 8125.. still kinda odd though

Posted by: toyfreak

I can't tell from the photos I've seen online yet... Does the 8125 have a lanyard hole like the K-Jam and Qtek 9100 phones do? A phone in the hand is worth at least two on the sidewalk.

Posted by: myke

A phone on the sidewalk . . . $449.00

A phone in your hand . . . $998.00

A phone with a 2 year contract . . . $349.00

GPS telling us the phone's release today and he's buying us all free ones with bluetooth headsets and unlimited dataplans and a massage with a happy ending . . . Priceless

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Posted by: macfreak

Question for someone who understands Cingular's EDGE networks -

...if I'm grandfathered into the $20/month unlimited data plan, could I just go buy this phone and get the same performance as someone who signs up for the PDA plan?

I only ask because I heard there were two different logins for people who were tethering to Cingular - one for regular data and one for PDAs. Does that alternate login provide better speed, etc? Or is it exactly the same?

FYI, I currently have a Nokia 6620.

Thanks.

Posted by: dma

Quote:

Originally Posted by macfreak

Question for someone who understands Cingular's EDGE networks -

...if I'm grandfathered into the $20/month unlimited data plan, could I just go buy this phone and get the same performance as someone who signs up for the PDA plan?

I only ask because I heard there were two different logins for people who were tethering to Cingular - one for regular data and one for PDAs. Does that alternate login provide better speed, etc? Or is it exactly the same?

FYI, I currently have a Nokia 6620.

Thanks.

I have the "grandfathered" data plan and a Treo 650. Currently I can get EDGE speed transfers with no problems.

Posted by: Laxplayer

I don't want to bust anyone's bubble but has any of the super spies from Cingular seen anything about the 8125 being held up b/c of a flaw with W5 and ActiveSync???

http://news.com.com/Microsoft+says+...ml?tag=nefd.top

Just wondering if this is holding up the release since it could be a REALLY big issue.

Thanks to everyone who is keeping us informed about the phone of our dreams. I personally will be one of the first to be in line at my local store to get one.

Posted by: dstrauss

Quote:

Originally Posted by macfreak

Works great (EDGE speeds) on a Treo 650. I got the $19.95 "Works" plan just before it expired in January, and everything went well. Using www.dslreports.com/mspeed I consistently got between 125-140kbs,with a top of 172 and a low of around 50 (as I recall). Now, if sprint would just release the 8125 hostages, I'll be on it like a duck on a bug. This Audiovox 5600 I'm using temporarily (Treo 650 went to eBay heaven) is a really great phone - best cell phone yet for me, but I really miss having either screen or full keyboard input. If they would just put a touch screen in a smartphone size device, it would be HEAVEN. Even tapping on the old PPC keyboard is better than T9 can dream of being.

Posted by: jcjdoss

The information on this phone is very vauge for it to be released so soon. CS use to be able to tell me a month ahead of time what was coming down the Pipeline. Now I Call and they haven't a bloody clue what i'm talkong about. This will be my next phone, but what gives with the lack of solid info fom CS. Again this isn't a criticisim about cs, they bust thier butts for us (at least most do) It is just a concern about the lack of solid release date info from Cingular themselves about this phone. Makes me hope we arn't being jerked around here. No offense to anyone providing the tips, keep them coming.

Signed,
Anxious in Bakersfield

Posted by: dstrauss

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcjdoss

...It is just a concern about the lack of solid release date info from Cingular themselves about this phone. Makes me hope we arn't being jerked around here. No offense to anyone providing the tips, keep them coming.

Signed,
Anxious in Bakersfield

I agree. I smell a skunk in the woodpile on this one. Companies are getting better at staying close to the vest, but this one seems TOO CLOSE if you know what I mean. All of the internet buzz about Activesync 4 problems; and the carriers' disdain for WiFi, makes me very suspicious. I've also been tracking the HTC 2125 smartphone, and "rumor" has it that Cingular killed the WiFi in it, despite leaving that ugly "hump" for the WiFi antennae on top (unlike the i-mate and qtek versions that have no hump).

Posted by: nskgti23

Funny, they just released AS 4.1 which corrects all the problems that were occuring with WM5 adn AS 4.0...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laxplayer

I don't want to bust anyone's bubble but has any of the super spies from Cingular seen anything about the 8125 being held up b/c of a flaw with W5 and ActiveSync???

http://news.com.com/Microsoft+says+...ml?tag=nefd.top

Just wondering if this is holding up the release since it could be a REALLY big issue.

Thanks to everyone who is keeping us informed about the phone of our dreams. I personally will be one of the first to be in line at my local store to get one.

Posted by: dstrauss

I've seen on other websites that 4.1 is also bug-ridden. Oh, i'm sorry, it's a M$oft product - I should know better.

Posted by: jcjdoss

Quote:

Originally Posted by dstrauss

I've seen on other websites that 4.1 is also bug-ridden. Oh, i'm sorry, it's a M$oft product - I should know better.

DUH

Seriously though, you have to give it to MS. It is the only software company that gets slammed everytime there is a minor flaw (and major) by everybody and thier mother, and I mean SLAMMED. As in, See I told you Microsoft products hawked your watch for drugs and wrecked your new car. By th way Microsoft got your daughter pregnant. The end of the world is near and you can blame only one source, can you guess....M$

It is one of the few companys I know that will fix thier coding errors within the week (depending on the seriousness of the bug)

Oh to stay on topic I think the 8125 is cool

Posted by: dstrauss

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcjdoss

... As in, See I told you Microsoft products hawked your watch for drugs and wrecked your new car. By th way Microsoft got your daughter pregnant. The end of the world is near and you can blame only one source, can you guess....M$...

Oh to stay on topic I think the 8125 is cool

How did you know they wrecked my car?

I wasn't really slamming M$oft, well, maybe a little. I love my Audiovox SMT5600 smartphone, and it synchs flawlessly with Activesync 3.8. What gets me is that WM5 CAN'T run without Activesync 4, so wouldn't you think it's just a little more critical than usual that it work with these phones?

Nonetheless, as soon as Cingular gets off its duff and releases the 8125, I'm there (well, maybe, I think I've PO'd all of the Cingular sales people here with my daily calls "are we there yet?")

Posted by: jcjdoss

LOL, I'm not slamming you for you're comment on MS, I feel the same way. LIke they disabled wifi sync. Microsucks, LOL. Not really. just have always enjoyed watching MS always get a bad wrap for minor issues. I think anyone that has any tech savy has had a beef with MS at one point or another. It is a labor of love.

I will be calling again today to see if I can get anyone that knows what I am talking about. By the way, Microsoft kidnaped my first born

Posted by: dstrauss

I just noticed the info next to your name (can see I'm new as poster to HoFo - lived over on Treocentral until I sent the Treo 650 to eBay heaven) and see your a satisfied SMT 5600 fan as well.

If they would just put a touch screen in that 5600 casing, I'd be all over it. Writing or taping on an onscreen keyboard would be head and shoulders over T9 and make it the perfect SMALL device.

Posted by: jcjdoss

The 8125 is the same length as the 5600 this looks to be the "perfect" device

Posted by: pjammin10

Quote:

Originally Posted by dstrauss

I just noticed the info next to your name (can see I'm new as poster to HoFo - lived over on Treocentral until I sent the Treo 650 to eBay heaven) and see your a satisfied SMT 5600 fan as well.

If they would just put a touch screen in that 5600 casing, I'd be all over it. Writing or taping on an onscreen keyboard would be head and shoulders over T9 and make it the perfect SMALL device.

I couldn't agree more! The device you're talking about is the HTC Blizzard. That device has been on the HTC shelf for about 6 months now and it's not confirmed to have wifi. After having a WM PPC for a year, I have fallen in love with on screen recognition. I love my SMT5600 for its stability and size, but a touchscreen would take a smartphone to a whole new level. The WM hand-recognition software is incredibly intuitive (for anyone who hasn't use it, or is used to that crappy Palm-based graffiti writing). I'd almost venture to say the HTC Prophet, or the O2 Atom would be more perfect for someone who enjoys a small device with a touch screen and could live without the extra 1/4" thickness that comes along with the keyboard.

So that's where I'm at now. Knowing that the HTC Prophet or the O2 Atom will probably never hit stateside, and will continue to cost >$600, should I just suck it up and pay $350 for the 8125? Decisions, decisions.

Posted by: BlueMovement

Hello all,
I'm quite enthused about the impending release of the 8125 but am a bit disheartened by the absence of reliable release date information. I understood that today was to be the chosen one so I went down to my local Cingular corporate store and after waiting to speak with someone found that nothing was known on the subject by any of the employees present. They then proceeded in an attempt to convince me that a D307 satisfy all of my needs

. This was a discouraging episode but I felt a call to corporate phone sales would perhaps prove to be more informative. After I made it clear that I was not referring to the Blue Angel, the sales person was kind enough to put the question to his superiors. Following a fifteen minuet hold he came back on the line and told me that no one there had herd of a 8125. I'm really itching to dump Verizon as a carrier and am curious if there is a consensus on when this phone will hit shelves.

Thanks for any info in advance

Posted by: dgriner

Well.. today is the 19th, one of the last few dates I've seen mentioned for release. The only other ones I've seen left for the Cingular release of the 8125 are the 21st and the 29th of November (lets hope it's not that long.)

Posted by: badgermac

I'm beginning to wonder that perhaps there is some sort of delay due to some issues with WM5 and the ActiveSync issue, or something with the phone side of the device.

Last night I called to change my Media Basics to the Unlimited Media Net (no text or picture messaging needed, just wanted the internet). Talking with the rep (who was fantastic) he had never heard of t he 8125. Doesn't say much, since he said himself that he usually never hears of the device until the day it launches.

I'm really liking the 6515 though. It rebooted once on me, but other then that I'dbeen solid. Having the unlimited Media Net and thus internet untied to WiFi is quite nice. Getting 113-125 speeds on Edge/GPRS as well.

Posted by: BlueMovement

Is it likely that the 8125 will be a “web exclusive” in the beginning? It just seems odd that their shop people so ostensibly clueless. And the 6515 would look good but for it's lack of wifi. If not for wifi I would likely have gone with the A780

Posted by: gps

...and "No.", the 19th isn't one of them.

http://www.howardforums.com/showpos...6&postcount=499

Posted by: dgriner

Quote:

Originally Posted by gps

...and "No.", the 19th isn't one of them.

http://www.howardforums.com/showpos...6&postcount=499

Umm.. Yeah it was. For a while they were saying from November 13th to the 19th. I'm just quoting what I found on here earlier.

Posted by: jlczl

I guess 20,000 units are in a warehouse SOMEWHERE IN THE WORLD (per informants i.e. GPS).

Posted by: jcjdoss

What is the price with 2 year contract and no data plan?

Posted by: jlczl

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcjdoss

What is the price with 2 year contract and no data plan?

The price has been reported at $349 with a 2 year contract.

I have to believe that at such a price the data plan would be mandatory (much the same way as the Laptop Connect plan is mandatory with the purchse of an airCard). Whether or not this phone will be available without a data plan (pdaConnect) hasn't been cleared up. Also, if it is purchased without a data plan (for those of us on grandfathered, inexpensive, unlimited data) will it be a different price?

I suspect the pricing, if truly this low, will be tied to mandatory data plans and that this phone will likely be more expensive without one.

Posted by: jcjdoss

Quote:

Originally Posted by jlczl

Can they make you keep the data plan? Can't i sign up for the plan then dump it in a month.

Posted by: badgermac

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueMovement

Is it likely that the 8125 will be a “web exclusive” in the beginning? It just seems odd that their shop people so ostensibly clueless. And the 6515 would look good but for it's lack of wifi. If not for wifi I would likely have gone with the A780

WiFi is cool (got it in the house) but I never use iton my 2400 series iPaq here at home, I use my laptop. I actually was a bit turned off by the lack of WiFi at first, but getting decent EDGE speed on the 6515 makes up for it. I'lll take a serious look though at the new HTC units (both the 2125 and 8125) when they come out, espefcially if it is within the 30 days of my buying the iPaq.

Posted by: nskgti23

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcjdoss

Can they make you keep the data plan? Can't i sign up for the plan then dump it in a month.

You will be charged back the $50 if you don't keep it...

Posted by: jcjdoss

Ok, so it is better just not to get the data plan. Thanks

Posted by: CA

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcjdoss

Ok, so it is better just not to get the data plan. Thanks

You may want to check the details in the agreement. You may be only liable to keep the data for a shorter time. Might even be 60 days.

Posted by: nskgti23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sonix

You may want to check the details in the agreement. You may be only liable to keep the data for a shorter time. Might even be 60 days.

It would be at least 180 days....

Posted by: TheTrueStar

I hope this phone comes out before December 11th (my birthday) so I can front and show off on my birthday... LOL

Posted by: TheTrueStar

I hope when i purchase this phone- I can get it insured!!![B]

Posted by: macfreak

I stopped by a Cingular retail store in Birmingham, AL and the rep was kind enough to go in the back and check. The info available to the rep said "sometime this month" with no further info on specific date or price.

Posted by: jcjdoss

What did you ask for... HTC 8125, Cingular Branded 8125, Cingular 8125, c8125

Posted by: jeasher

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcjdoss

What did you ask for... HTC 8125, Cingular Branded 8125, Cingular 8125, c8125

Don't forget High Tech 8125.

Posted by: jcjdoss

Oh yes, how could I forget.

Posted by: Omega2008

Yay!!! 3 more pages to this thread and not one of them useful.

Posted by: skyloscp

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sonix

You may want to check the details in the agreement. You may be only liable to keep the data for a shorter time. Might even be 60 days.

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Posted by: jcjdoss

With this many pages it is a moot point. What do you expect, there is no information out there. So we are all just waiting, impatiently.

Posted by: gps

Quote:

Originally Posted by dgriner

Umm.. Yeah it was.

Key word....WAS.

Posted by: dgriner

Quote:

Originally Posted by gps

Key word....WAS.

Well, I certainly hope the 2125 is released on Tuesday like you say it will be, or I'll be sure to draw much attention to the fact that your much touted date information was incorrect.

Posted by: dstrauss

I almost NEVER put any stock in the sales people at our local Cingular store, but today was an upset to say the least. I was asking one of the usually clueless sales people WHEN were we going to get it, and he called over a young 20-something guy who was "out of uniform" (he introduced him as "one of the techs). The salesman asked him if he had any information about thier upcoming smartphones, and he pops off "If you're talking about the new 8125, it's off until first quarter 06." I hadn't even given him a hint other than the saleman asking about "smartphones" and he offered up this sad news, calling it by number.

He said he'd seen a technical note about software problems and they wouldn't be getting the 8125 in time for Christmas. He said he'd not heard anything about the 2125.

Posted by: dgriner

Oh no.. I really hope that's not the case. I have been waiting for some version of the HTC Wizard that didn't include a camera for a while. Cingular seemed to be my only shot at getting one anytime soon.

I already have the Qtek 9100 but need the camera-less version for going into certain govt facilities that restrict camera phones.

Does anyone know of some other model of the Wizard that does not come with the camera?

Posted by: jcjdoss

I have no inside info, but I do believe there would be many more that could confirm release dates if it was within a few weeks of delivery. I wouldn't get your hopes up. I hope I'm wrong.

Posted by: mpalazzo

Ok I know when it is going to be released. It will be in Jan. In the retail stores but i think that it will be earlier for B2B. I emailed some people in Cingular. That is what i know internally.

Posted by: WebbyBabe

JANUARY? No I'm definately not waiting. I'm going over to Sprint and getting the HTC Apache 6700. I changed my mind about getting the Qtek 9100. It's way too expensive and the 6700 does the same for less.

Now, back on topic... JANUARY??

Posted by: jcjdoss

Quote:

Originally Posted by dgriner

Oh no.. I really hope that's not the case. I have been waiting for some version of the HTC Wizard that didn't include a camera for a while. Cingular seemed to be my only shot at getting one anytime soon.

I already have the Qtek 9100 but need the camera-less version for going into certain govt facilities that restrict camera phones.

Does anyone know of some other model of the Wizard that does not come with the camera?

why don't you buy a case for work. Then no one would know

Posted by: gps

Quote:

Originally Posted by dgriner

Well, I certainly hope the 2125 is released on Tuesday like you say it will be, or I'll be sure to draw much attention to the fact that your much touted date information was incorrect.

No, no, no, no, no, no. I'm not saying anything. I'm only posting the information that given to me when I ask questions. In other words, don't go making plans on the info I've given you. I can guarantee it's authenticity, but can't guarantee that it's 100% correct.

As a matter of fact. I think I'll just cease in talking about it. Everyone else can handle things from here.

dgriner...you have the reigns.

Posted by: sylvestor

Noticed this link today for $50 rebate on the 8125/2125. Nice to see that it expired today.

http://www.cartoys.com/cartoy/Rebat...lar_05nov19.pdf

Posted by: mpalazzo

Well we are going to release it but not till jan i work for cingular so trust me we will not get it till jan. Everyone on here is just speculating i am not kidding we WILL not get till jan. I want one real bad that is how I know. I will get one a week before it comes out.

Posted by: dingobiatch

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It better be coming out before january. Why would they have stocked warehouses with them. Are they waiting for a rom update?

Posted by: mpalazzo

I dont know exactly why. And for everyones info gps was wrong. They are not in our warehouses they are on order. Trust me they are NOT in our ware houses. We have about 20k on order but do not have them yet.

Posted by: ASimpleFarmer

Quote:

Originally Posted by mpalazzo

Ok I know when it is going to be released. It will be in Jan. In the retail stores but i think that it will be earlier for B2B. I emailed some people in Cingular. That is what i know internally.

i have heard no such thing. january. They would say that the phone would be pushed back in release date on csp

Posted by: Omega2008

Yay! for January! I don't really care anymore....

Posted by: jcjdoss

put a fork in it, this thread is done

Posted by: mpalazzo

It is not in CSP i talked to 3 different equipment people with cingular also if you look in OTIVA which I doubt you have access you will see.

Posted by: magicski

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcjdoss

put a fork in it, this thread is done

Notihng is done except Nextel.

Posted by: ASimpleFarmer

Quote:

Originally Posted by mpalazzo

It is not in CSP i talked to 3 different equipment people with cingular also if you look in OTIVA which I doubt you have access you will see.

ill check it out tomorrow

Posted by: grifflax

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcjdoss

The information on this phone is very vauge for it to be released so soon. It is just a concern about the lack of solid release date info from Cingular themselves about this phone. Makes me hope we arn't being jerked around here.
Signed,
Anxious in Bakersfield

I work at a corporate store and feel the same way as you...that they never provide anything solid anymore about whats in the pipe. Not even to us when we inquire. We used to use an inventory system called Compass where we could see them in the warehouses and on the way, but the new system blows chunks and now every day I find myself wondering just what the FedEx guy is bringing us because they leave us pretty much in the dark. Just because the 8125 is showing up on the current rebate form / store merchandising posters....this still means nothing. Past phones that are late/never surface at all have taught us these lessons. Having said this however, it does appear that this device will pop up soon. Hopefully no dreadful last minute delays. This thread and all who frequent it have suffered from the "anticipation stages" far too long...

Posted by: CoRupT

I havent following the thread but im loving this phone.Some questions i have is: Will Cingular get the same 8100 & 8125 model? or will t-mobile have one as well? Does anyone know the thickness?

Posted by: fowen

Quote:

Originally Posted by Omega2008

Yay! for January! I don't really care anymore....

I feel the same way. It will come out when it comes out and when it does I am going to get one.

Until then, my trusty MPx200 will do just fine.

Posted by: zachavm

I think there are people (not talking about anybody specific) in this forum claiming to know something just to screw with us. We have heard so much crap here. The truth is that it could really come out at any time. I still trust the people who had the original information and pictures the most (gps, supernub, ngsk32... or watever the heck his sn was).

Zach

Posted by: Omega2008

Yeah what he said.

Posted by: zachavm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Omega2008

Yeah what he said.

thanks for the backup

Posted by: exchguy

If these rumored delays until Jan of '06 for the 8125 do end up as the truth, I think this is really going to start to show a decline for Cingular/ATTWS in what traditionally was a pretty good domination with their past releases of Windows Mobile devices.

For instance, with the release of the origional PPC Phone device (aka HTC Wallaby), ATTWS was not too far behind T-Mobile USA with releasing the SX56. They were the first USA carrier with a 1st gen MS Smartphone (MPx200) and 2nd gen MS Smartphone (SMT5600 and MPx220).

I have to say that I am impressed by Sprint and their release of the PPC-6700. I mean, they had the first WM 5.0 phone device out beating out all other carriers with a Sept release and presumably (assuming the 8125 does not roll until '06) a 4 month lead with a bleeding edge device over all other carriers.

Cingular releases the ipaq 6515 a few weeks ago? Give me a break. T-Mobile had this phone like a year ago (6315?) and the only difference is EDGE and 850.

I hope I'm wrong in assuming the delay until '06 on the 8125 and it really does come out within a few weeks, but this could be yet another mis-step by Cingular (lack of a high speed data offering is the first) that puts them even further behind the competition. I guess they've been too focused on pushing out toys for the kiddies like the ROKR and the RAZR instead.

Posted by: jlczl

Quote:

Originally Posted by zachavm

I think there are people (not talking about anybody specific) in this forum claiming to know something just to screw with us. We have heard so much crap here. The truth is that it could really come out at any time. I still trust the people who had the original information and pictures the most (gps, supernub, ngsk32... or watever the heck his sn was).

Zach

I admire your endless optimism........don't let it fade with age and the incredulousness that accompanies it.

Posted by: zachavm

incredulousness... had to find a dictionary for that one.

Posted by: CA

Quote:

Originally Posted by nskgti23

It would be at least 180 days....

Personally I don't understand getting one without data, unless of course your after the bling, in that case get a dummy from eBay.

I also think Cingular could learn a lesson from Sprint. Whatever a phone is capable of its in there free for a month. Now that's long enough to get addicted even then you can go down In options instead of being talked into going up.

Posted by: CA

Wouldn't it be funny if the FedEx boys were selling it before Cingular stores had them?

Posted by: TerryMathews

I want an 8125 as much as the next person, but isn't a Q1 delay more than possible?

AFAIK, ActiveSync 4 is at best not working well; you could call it broken and not be incorrect. Add in that Cingular knows that AKU2 with the messaging pack is right around the corner. Why release a device, when you know you're going to have to update it immediately?

Posted by: jcjdoss

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sonix

Wifi my friend, wifi

Posted by: zachavm

Quote:

Originally Posted by TerryMathews

I want an 8125 as much as the next person, but isn't a Q1 delay more than possible?

AFAIK, ActiveSync 4 is at best not working well; you could call it broken and not be incorrect. Add in that Cingular knows that AKU2 with the messaging pack is right around the corner. Why release a device, when you know you're going to have to update it immediately?

First off, most of time, all carriers seem so to care about is the device working on their network. Even the treo 650 still has plenty of bugs and it has been out for nearly a year. Second, updates are of the nature of the devices. They will always have to do updates.

Posted by: CA

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcjdoss

Wifi my friend, wifi

That's funny I've been a MAN(municipal area network) WiFi fan for a while. It's speed, latency, cost have been my cry. Now it's used against me.

Posted by: zachavm

Okay, with all of this talk about delays, which I must say is very inconsistent in information from person to person, I think we should step back and take a look at the evidence that does not have to do with what people heard or claim they know.

fact 1: Cingular has recently brought the sx66 to EOL (End of Life).

This in the past has meant a new device is on the horizen. This could have to do with the hp, but if it did, why was it not discontinued sooner?

fact 2: The smt5600 has be slashed in price

This usually means they are trying to empty our their remaining quantities. It hasn't hit EOL yet, but it is obvious that a replacement for the smartphone is coming.

fact 3: The 8125 is in the cingular systems for the cs reps.

Most say that this means a release is coming shortly. However, we also have to consider that people have said the 650 was in there for weeks before it's release (if someone knows specificaly how long, I would like to know).

fact 4: We have seen branded pictures released.

From my experience, the branded pictures usually mean a release in the near future; however, I must admit that this is the weakest of these points.

fact 5: The 8125 and the 2125 both showed up on cingular's rintone website.

I don't know what this indicates as to how fast a phone would come out, but I would think it wouldn't be long if cingular already had a website ready to go.

Anyway, that is just a summary of were we stand without people he said, she said, I know, I think crap. As I see it now, there is no evidence from any of these facts that these units might be delayed. Rather, I see all of these as evidence that it is very close, if not any day. Take as you will, that's M2C.

Zach

Posted by: badgermac

I know all this talk of when its coming out is conjecture. I do (and I think many others do as well) appreciate the inforamtion that many on the "inside" have provided. It's a guessing game for them as well, they just may have a couple more snippets of info then we do as outsiders. Let's try to not to give 'em grief about it - the information may change and that's not their fault.

That aside, I'm thinking we'll see one of the HTC devices this week, just a hunch.

Posted by: jcjdoss

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sonix

That's funny I've been a MAN(municipal area network) WiFi fan for a while. It's speed, latency, cost have been my cry. Now it's used against me.

Wifi is the only way to access the internet except for emergencies, I have a real problem with the carriers and the amout they charge for data. You can get high speed at home for 15 bucks but they want to charge you an arm and a leg for to access the internet on your cell phone. And for most phones it is only wap, but even $20 for wap is way to much. I know the 8125 has edge and a bigger screen to view more conventional pages, but I can't believe they can justify $40 a month for to access to still limited internet.

Posted by: CA

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcjdoss

If Sprint floats your boat(coverage) it's $15.00/month for EVDO/1x PDA.

The more people that go Hmmm... the better.

Posted by: Rock3nrenigade

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcjdoss

20 dollar MEdia Net Unlimited should work no?

Posted by: jcjdoss

Yes, but

A.) if they catch you haveing a PDA phone and $20 a month I think they make you either change or cut it off. (Not sure but that is the impression I have)

2.) If you are moral about that kind of stuff (Which I am not) it is kind of against the rules to use a pda phone with $20 Medianet

Posted by: nskgti23

Actually the SMT5600 hit end of life on the 15th of November in the BMG channel... The SX66 has already been pulled also. If I put in an order for an SX66, it will not be delivered.

Quote:

Originally Posted by zachavm

fact 2: The smt5600 has be slashed in price

This usually means they are trying to empty our their remaining quantities. It hasn't hit EOL yet, but it is obvious that a replacement for the smartphone is coming.

Posted by: Rock3nrenigade

Well it looks like Active Sync 4.1 is out. Maybe this has somthing to do with the delay?

http://www.mobilegadgetnews.com/ind...showtopic=10264

Posted by: ASimpleFarmer

Quote:

Originally Posted by nskgti23

Actually the SMT5600 hit end of life on the 15th of November in the BMG channel... The SX66 has already been pulled also. If I put in an order for an SX66, it will not be delivered.

yup the sx66 was eol a couple of days ago

Posted by: sparktography

Do you know anything about the average lapse time between a phone and its practical replacement coming out? When the Treo 600 for instance did an EOL how long before the 650 was readily avalible?

Posted by: smokeyb111

I actually think they were selling both at the same time if I remember correctly..........

Posted by: jetli

AHHHHH JANUARY?!?!?!!!!

thats cow doodle + horse poo.

Posted by: rclarke6

I have been watching and reading this thread with much interest and anticipation. I to, like the rest of you intend to purchase a 8125 as soon as it becomes available. However let me give you my opinion as to why,possibily, there is a delay in the upcomming release.

I also own an axim X50v, running windows mobile 2003SE. We waited with much antisipation, the new windows mobile 5 upgrade. Finally we received it from Dell and people started upgrading. You can go to www.aximsite.com and
in the software forums read some of the horror stories relating to the upgrades. a very few are not having many problems, but most are having quite a few problems with this new operating system. So much so that they are downgrading back to windows mobile 2003SE untila fix for it comes out in early 2006. I do admit that some of the problems may have to do with the fact that we are upgrading a device that is built to run windows mobile 2003SE, and not Windows mobile 5, however the people that have bought the new Axim X51v, that is built for WM5 are having problems also. I said all of that to say this, Believe me when i say you do not want this device until the operating system is corrected in such a way as to be reliable and without the many problems it seems to have right now. I am given to understand that microsoft is comming out with a new upgrade for WM5 after the first of 2006, but don't know an exact date.

I am just applying the problems i am having with WM5 to this new 8125, and in no way do i know any of this for sure. Just giving you my 2 cents . and by the way I have been running activesync 4.1 for a month now and although it did cure some of the sync problems, it did not help with the basic operating system problems.

Posted by: Quantyoda

There is a thread today in the Sprint forum showing a 1 day sale for the PPC-6700 for $68.99 w/2 yr agreement. Very tempting. Not sure I like the antenna. I just moved to the Denver area and my Sprint phone is dropping calls like crazy. I think I'm gonna wait for the 8125.

http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=776717

Posted by: smithtec

Whats the diff between the qtek 9100 and the 8125?

Posted by: Madhatter73

The qtek's based of the wizard 200, not 100/110, it's more expensive and it's been released, unlike the 8125.

Posted by: grifflax

Quote:

Originally Posted by mpalazzo

Well we are going to release it but not till jan i work for cingular so trust me we will not get it till jan. Everyone on here is just speculating i am not kidding we WILL not get till jan. I want one real bad that is how I know. I will get one a week before it comes out.

2 points here. Our regional VP's were in a meeting Friday with the COO and the Distribution Manager clarified the release of certain products including the 8125. There was a delay in getting them through customs. I just looked in the OTIVA system, and it shows. The original date of receipt was 11-16 which has been delayed until the week of the 28th. The new expected launch date is the first week of december to the second week of december. This info comes from the man who signs the UPS shipping receipt so hopefully he's not just blowing smoke around. But, ultimately it gets here when it gets here. Point two is that Cingular is releasing the 2125, 8125/8100, LG9200, LG7200, relaunching the 6682 with yahoo, W600i, Samsung D357, Firefly, UMTS A860 all in the same two months. By january all should be out and that's the end of the ball game and we can all jump onto the next forum for the next releases. Have a good holiday all.

Posted by: juan9999

Quote:

Originally Posted by Madhatter73

The qtek's based of the wizard 200, not 100/110, it's more expensive and it's been released, unlike the 8125.

What's the difference betwen the wizard 200 and 100/100 (other than price)

Posted by: jeasher

Quote:

Originally Posted by grifflax

Our regional VP's were in a meeting Friday with the COO and the Distribution Manager clarified the release of certain products including the 8125. There was a delay in getting them through customs. I just looked in the OTIVA system, and it shows. The original date of receipt was 11-16 which has been delayed until the week of the 28th. The new expected launch date is the first week of december to the second week of december.

I would say that's a pretty solid update. Can anyone concur?

Posted by: Copernicus325

Quote:

Originally Posted by grifflax

Horrible Madrid game...

Anyways the 28th, eh?

Posted by: fowen

Quote:

Originally Posted by Copernicus325

Horrible Madrid game...

Anyways the 28th, eh?

From his post they are due to receive them on the 28th. Thus putting the release date sometime in the beginning of December.

Also am I the only one that gets an error when i click on the link above about the PPC-6700 sale?

Posted by: CA

Quote:

Originally Posted by fowen

Also am I the only one that gets an error when i click on the link above about the PPC-6700 sale?

A mod must have removed it, but there is another on TMO.

Posted by: WebbyBabe

They must of removed the one from TMO too because I don't see it there either.

Posted by: BlueMovement

this link?

https://www.pcspromotions.com/product.php?id=ppc6700

I'm wondering if they would extend any of those discounts to those only seeking to be interred for one year?

Posted by: hesh

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueMovement

this link?

https://www.pcspromotions.com/product.php?id=ppc6700

I'm wondering if they would extend any of those discounts to those only seeking to be interred for one year?

$68.99? Is that price right?

Posted by: Omega2008

Lets get back on topic people, if we don't tripy will close the thread. Thanks.

Posted by: zachavm

It would be great if I wasn't allready a sprint customer. I hate all these new lin of service things. It is really crap. All this does is hurt you relations with your current customers.

Zach

Posted by: BlueMovement

Thats what I was thinking. I didn't want to go with the 6700 because if I didn't like sprint, after my coverage was up I would be stuck with a $400 phone unsupported by any other serves provider. But for $70 I could rationalize such a move.

Posted by: sparktography

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueMovement

this link?

https://www.pcspromotions.com/product.php?id=ppc6700

I'm wondering if they would extend any of those discounts to those only seeking to be interred for one year?

I just looked through their site and nearly jumped at it. I would still want an 8125, but having two phones might be nice. The only problem is that PCSPromotions is not Sprint - it's a reseller, so there is no 30 day money back no questions off clause that I could see. Otherwise I would have gotten it, enjoyed the 6700 until the 8125 came out, then switched back.

Oh well.

Posted by: sparktography

Quote:

Originally Posted by sparktography

Ohh - they do offer a 15 day return policy. I wonder if I can bet if the 8125 will come out within 2 weeks or not. If I am pretty sure it will I might just go for this. I'm really itching to try a WM5.0 device...

Posted by: BlueMovement

Other then the CDMA vs. GSM question in what way is the 8125 superior to the PPC 6700>?

Posted by: sparktography

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueMovement

Other then the CDMA vs. GSM question in what way is the 8125 superior to the PPC 6700>?

I don't know if you could say its superior really. They have some differences in the way they operate, but are basically the same phone. That antenna really bugs me, and I'm not a big fan of CDMA otherwise I would have picked one up long ago.

Posted by: juan9999

Quote:

Originally Posted by sparktography

Isn't the sprint one running at 400mhz vs. the 8125 running at 200?

I've heard that 200mhz is a problem for skype...

Posted by: Rock3nrenigade

Your on a cell phone what do you need skype for?

Posted by: Omega2008

who cares about skype....its all the other things that a PPC can do that I care about...skype is the last on the list on what I want to do with this phone.

Posted by: juan9999

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rock3nrenigade

Your on a cell phone what do you need skype for?

Free international calls... I travel a lot and prefer not to carry a laptop to wi-fi hotspots.

It's also great to make calls anywhere at home... but I guess the real question, is about the CPU power of 200mhz; I'm used to a 400mhz PDA

Posted by: sparktography

Quote:

Originally Posted by juan9999

Are we really going to revisit this part of the thread?

Posted by: Omega2008

I concur....dude you need to read few posts back, this has already been discussed. Stop junking up the the thread with redunant posts. Thank you.

Posted by: jeasher

Quote:

Originally Posted by Omega2008

I concur....dude you need to read few posts back, this has already been discussed. Stop junking up the the thread with redunant posts. Thank you.

Yeah, but do you concur with a mid-Dec. release date? Your info had been saying mid-Nov. Any changes you know about?

Posted by: sparktography

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeasher

Yeah, but do you concur with a mid-Dec. release date? Your info had been saying mid-Nov. Any changes you know about?

Although I too am interested to see if any Cingular employees have updated information I would hardly put a ship date slipping in the same catagory as discussing the specs of the phone. The ship date can (and appearently is) change, but the HTC Wizard has been a 200mz OMPA 850 since it was announced by HTC in the EU nearly a year ago.

<<Snippy retort removed>>

Posted by: ASimpleFarmer

sadly i didnt see the 8125 on the 11/20-12/24 price sheet.

Posted by: badgermac

I know this may not be the thread for this ASF, but did you see aynthing intersting on the price sheet?

Posted by: ASimpleFarmer

Quote:

Originally Posted by badgermac

I know this may not be the thread for this ASF, but did you see aynthing intersting on the price sheet?

nada. its all the same info as before.

this still doesnt mean that the phone wont be released within this year. it still can be launched. I say this, because teh w600 was also taken off the list. that is supposed to come out the end of this month to sometime next month.

there is still a chance!

Posted by: Omega2008

well just because its off the price sheet doesn't mean it won't come out.....seen that happen plenty of times. I should be out late this week or early next week if meh sources are correct.

Posted by: sparktography

Quote:

Originally Posted by ASimpleFarmer

sadly i didnt see the 8125 on the 11/20-12/24 price sheet.

Are you trying to make a grown man cry?

Posted by: butzchan

I talked to a local Cingular store employee today, and he confirmed that the phone was officially for sale today (11/20), but that none were in stock. He expected to see some this week, at the latest.

Posted by: jcjdoss

Don't mess with me

Posted by: butzchan

Just some info...it is not written in stone...but the only date I have ever heard from Cingular was the 20th. Hopefully more good news tomorrow.

Posted by: diadjika

lol everyday a new release date !!!

so today is the official release date

Posted by: ASimpleFarmer

i've seen things that are not on the sheet pop up. I just hope its a happy surprise

Posted by: colorBlue

Quote:

Originally Posted by sparktography

Are you trying to make a grown man cry?

God yes, the wait is killing me....

Posted by: jeasher

I'm resigned to say it comes out when it comes out. I've been waiting for this kind of device for about a year now, so what's another month or two.

Posted by: jcjdoss

I've got to sell my smt5600 and palm anyway

Posted by: skyloscp

http://onlinestored.cingular.com/ht...teForms/CEN.pdf

The new rebate list still lists it thru december.

Posted by: zachavm

I too have been waiting patiently for a very long time, but these recent events have made me expect it soon. I don't know if I can wait much longer. I WANT IT NOW!!!!

"3..2..1
1..2..3
What the heck
is bothering me?"

Okay, I'm good now. Whew!

Zach

Posted by: zachavm

If anybody pegs that quote I will be supremely impressed.

Posted by: holdenmichael

Quote:

Originally Posted by zachavm

If anybody pegs that quote I will be supremely impressed.

Google survey says...

Carl Winslow from the TV show Family Matters.

Posted by: importluva

Family Matters - my favorite show growing up.

They need to release the DVD set again!

Anyways, soon Cingular will be open...who's calling CS to find out if they can order the phone?

Posted by: jetli

Quote:

Originally Posted by zachavm

If anybody pegs that quote I will be supremely impressed.

Carl Winslow of Family Matters.

Posted by: zachavm

okay, google search is cheating, and then you just ruin it for everyone else. Now I'm sad

But good job. By the way, I just called cs and they said that right now it is on a "tentative" schedule. Whatever the heck that means.

Zach

Posted by: dstrauss

With the number of folks here waiting on pins and needles for the new 8125, that "supply" of 20,000 sitting in transit somewhere is going to disappear before they can even open a display model.

Posted by: Omega2008

Man you guys really know how to stress over something lol. Just sit back and relax and know that its comming out soon.

Posted by: Omega2008

Tenative meaning its subject to change...and you know it will.

Posted by: dstrauss

Who's stressed?

Posted by: dstrauss

This is an older post over at Treocentral, but it makes me wonder if this is why Cingular is sitting on the 8125? It's hard to believe in this day and age of corporate profit tweaking that they would miss out on Black Friday with a phone guaranteed to sell out and bring in high revenue data users. Sounds to me like WM5 needs hernia surgery.

http://www.forbes.com/opinions/free...5/1128/072.html

Posted by: CA

It can't be. Cingular has released phones with more problems and the 6700(WM5) is out with many users.

I did notice that Verizon disables the voice the phone when using WiFi.

Posted by: nskgti23

That guy is an idiot... Windows Mobile 5 runs fine on the Universal, Wizard and a few other devices. I would guess Sprint didn't do much in the lines of testing (they never do) so there could be some other issues that they have created in the device...

Quote:

Originally Posted by dstrauss

This is an older post over at Treocentral, but it makes me wonder if this is why Cingular is sitting on the 8125? It's hard to believe in this day and age of corporate profit tweaking that they would miss out on Black Friday with a phone guaranteed to sell out and bring in high revenue data users. Sounds to me like WM5 needs hernia surgery.

http://www.forbes.com/opinions/free...5/1128/072.html

Posted by: suavebaby

I wonder are there any major problems with WM5 on the K-Jam or the Qtek 9100? If so then cingular 8125 may or may not have software problems

Posted by: suavebaby

At least cingular kould let us pre-order the 8125 for us who wants it without a contract

Posted by: suavebaby

I been waiting on this phone, like a child waiting on the ice cream truck

Posted by: Madhatter73

Not sure about you guys, but this phone would GREATLY simplify my IT telecommuting... I was going to get the sx66 if this thing wasn't out by december, but now they've even pulled that choice away...

I work outdoors, so I cant stand phones with important buttons exposed on the face.. Too easy to get dirt in them that way. To this point, the sx66 was my phone, until I heard the 8125 was right around the corner.

Now I'm torn, do I blow money ebaying an sx66 then getting the 8125 when it comes out, or should I just wait.

Qtek and imate look like viable options, but the price difference between them and the 8125 is hard to swallow, especially since I don't mind taking a 2yr.

I will probably be here "stressing" about the release till it's out because I absolutely despise purchasing out of date hardware.

Tomorrow's the 22nd (another of the dates floated) I guess we'll see then.

Posted by: sparktography

Not to get off topic, but WTF - Cingular might be dropping their Cingular branding and going back to ATTWS?

http://gigaom.com/2005/11/21/cingul...ge-name-to-att/

Thats simply rediculous. How much money have they spent trying to remove the ATT branding from the face of the earth. I certainly hope this is not part of the delay - if they have to scrape the Cingular logo off all the 8125's and print ATT on it I'm going to be miffed.

Posted by: Madhatter73

Quote:

Originally Posted by sparktography

Not to get off topic, but WTF - Cingular might be dropping their Cingular branding and going back to ATTWS?

http://gigaom.com/2005/11/21/cingul...ge-name-to-att/

Thats simply rediculous. How much money have they spent trying to remove the ATT branding from the face of the earth. I certainly hope this is not part of the delay - if they have to scrape the Cingular logo off all the 8125's and print ATT on it I'm going to be miffed.

Yeah, I heard about it... and used it to help use up some of this nervous waiting-for-8125 energy...

The New Logo?

Posted by: diadjika

so any news this morning

Posted by: butzchan

Yep. Release date pushed back indefinately. Way to go Cingular.

Posted by: jeasher

Quote:

Originally Posted by butzchan

Yep. Release date pushed back indefinately. Way to go Cingular.

Where'd you get this from?

Posted by: butzchan

Upgrade dept, and a local Cingular store. Both confirmed that the release date was supposed to be the 20th, and both said that there was no future release date. However, knowing Cingular, this info could change tomorrow.

Posted by: MikeK2

No doubt. No one else has said that today.

Posted by: RulinSmoove

ill call a corp store in fairfax va right now and see what they have to say...

Posted by: exchguy

I wouldn't trust much of what the stores have to say, they are just trying to sell plans and phones that they have in stock. And most of what others have said here they rarely know what all is coming out until the FedEx truck drops off the boxes. I've been into the stores before and I know more than they do from reading these forums.

That said, my feeling is that there won't be anything this week. Basically, I would think nothing for the next few weeks..maybe mid-December. Bad for Cingular, because they will have missed most of the holiday sales season, although I guess they figure these are mostly business centered phones anyway.. Hopefully, I am wrong!

Posted by: tremcotexas

Man I'm pissed. I have been waiting for the Nokia 9300 forever on Cingular (they will never launch that one I'm convinced) and while browsing more information on the 9300 found the 8125 and was convinced that device would be much better. Plus, it was thought to be coming out in the next few weeks. Now... It seems as though changing carriers might be the only real way to make me feel better. Wonder if they would miss my $300 bucks a month! Unlikely...I cannot believe a company like Cingular cannot give a freakin launch date (or month) on phones. Anyway, just thought I would turn the forum into my own free counseling session for a moment. Sorry.

Posted by: RulinSmoove

just got off the phone, this guy said that he saw an email this morning and said that they think its pushed back to jan. mfers. but that doesnt always mean its 100% true.

Posted by: hdcl

The scoop is that currently the launch is delayed by an expected 4 weeks from today. If the issues that caused the original ship date to slip resurface, this may get pushed out further. If the issues are resolved, then expect some people to be able to get this phone before Christmas. The decision to delay was made during the middle of last week.

Due to confidentiality issues, I can't really give you details on what is causing the delay, but stand by for updates. The reason Cingular cannot give you a firm launch date is that it is a moving target and they don't really know.

Posted by: jeasher

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Originally Posted by hdcl

Due to confidentiality issues, I can't really give you details on what is causing the delay, but stand by for updates.

I understand you can't really talk about it, but can you say whether it is a hardware or software issue? Thanks.

Posted by: hdcl

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Originally Posted by jeasher

I understand you can't really talk about it, but can you say whether it is a hardware or software issue? Thanks.

Thats the part I really can't talk about. Let's put it this way. Whenever a carrier releases a WM device, they customize the software and hardware to reflect features, branding etc. Sometimes things go a bit awry during this process. Suffice to say some very bright people at HTC, Cingular and Microsoft are feverishly working on this problem as we speak.

Posted by: exchguy

This sounds like precisely why the European carriers are able to get these devices to market much faster than carriers in the US can. Simply because the FCC has to take a first crack at 'approving' the device, once FCC approval has occurred, then the carriers have to start their branding/tweaking/testing processes to get their logo's, apps, SimLocking, etc done to it. By then, the European carriers and OEMs like Qtek and Imate have had them out for months because they didn't have to go through all of the tweaking.

Also, Cingular doesn't want/need another Motorola MPx220 on their hands like they had last year when it had to be pulled from the market because of the problems.

Posted by: tremcotexas

Exactly my point... If they pushed out this date to "god only knows when" it could be either software or hardware; however, you would have to fix that prior to HTC shipping them here, correct?? I am imagining 20,000 units of these things are not coming on an airplane (2-3 weeks to arrive??)? Which means there is no telling how long we are going to have to wait for these. Please correct if I am way off. I think I'm gonna splurge for K-Jam.

Posted by: RulinSmoove

cingular/htc/software & hardware engineers should just stop all the teasing and fix all these delays/problems and give us 1 date we can look forward too. not 23048482 dates that keepy getting delayed.

Posted by: nskgti23

That's funny, because it totally goes against what I am hearing...

I guess it is a wait and see who's right.

It definitely won't be out today, tomorrow or this week, but it won't be 4 weeks according to my sources.

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Originally Posted by hdcl

The scoop is that currently the launch is delayed by an expected 4 weeks from today. If the issues that caused the original ship date to slip resurface, this may get pushed out further. If the issues are resolved, then expect some people to be able to get this phone before Christmas. The decision to delay was made during the middle of last week.

Due to confidentiality issues, I can't really give you details on what is causing the delay, but stand by for updates. The reason Cingular cannot give you a firm launch date is that it is a moving target and they don't really know.

Posted by: nskgti23

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Originally Posted by RulinSmoove

cingular should just stop all the teasing and fix all these delays/problems and give us 1 date we can look forward too. not 23048482 dates that keepy getting delayed.

The 200 dates that keep getting posted are simply speculation as to when it was going to launch. My internal dates have held fairly close except one shift in date that was confirmed 2 weeks ago.

Posted by: RulinSmoove

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Originally Posted by nskgti23

The 200 dates that keep getting posted are simply speculation as to when it was going to launch. My internal dates have held fairly close except one shift in date that was confirmed 2 weeks ago.

ok, so whats ur next internal date, huh huh! before the end of nov? before xmas? come on, spill it!

Posted by: hdcl

I hope I am wrong, but based on the people I am talking to, I don't think I am. That being said, the dates are being driven by the software/hardware regression cycles. Once all the issues have been fixed, there is a finite testing schedule that needs to be completed. If the involved parties figure out a way to go through the testing quicker than the usual cycles, you may see an earlier launch date.

Regarding the comment about the MPx220 issues, I don't want to imply that there is any similarity here BUT, those of you had access to an unbranded, unlocked OEM Motorola MPx220, you would have seen it was FAR more stable than what AT&T and later Cingular shipped.

I would rather that everyone takes the time to get this right before shipping which is the approach being taken. Cingular does NOT want another MPx220 debacle.

Posted by: diadjika

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Originally Posted by nskgti23

That's funny, because it totally goes against what I am hearing...

I guess it is a wait and see who's right.

It definitely won't be out today, tomorrow or this week, but it won't be 4 weeks according to my sources.

soooo when ????

Posted by: nskgti23

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Originally Posted by RulinSmoove

ok, so whats ur next internal date, huh huh! before the end of nov? before xmas? come on, spill it!

It will be released on the....

Right.... Sorry, but unless you want to pay my salary and commission for the next 6 months, plus my 2005 bonus, I'm not saying shiz....

Posted by: jeasher

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Originally Posted by nskgti23

It will be released on the....

Right.... Sorry, but unless you want to pay my salary and commission for the next 6 months, plus my 2005 bonus, I'm not saying shiz....

Don't worry man, I'll cover you for the next 6 mos. So when is it coming out?

Posted by: RulinSmoove

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Originally Posted by nskgti23

It will be released on the....

Right.... Sorry, but unless you want to pay my salary and commission for the next 6 months, plus my 2005 bonus, I'm not saying shiz....

its ok... because even your "internal" date got shifted so you can just add that to your 200 speculation dates making it 201.

Posted by: myke

I like when "insiders" argue. Makes me tickle

Posted by: rkdiddy

Can anyone confirm that this information is solely based off the 8125 or does it apply to the 2125 as well?

Thanks!

Posted by: hdcl

The 2125 was having different issues as of last Friday. I do not have an update on that one but for some reason I was told that the testing cycle for the 2125 was not as long so that if the issues were fixed, it was not a 4 week wait.

Posted by: myke

4 weeks.... so that'd be december 19th? glad i sold my treo on ebay. I'm about to break this old nokia i'm using with a hammer. Here is a picture of what I've been using the past 4 weeks so you can all feel my pain:

Posted by: freemz

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Originally Posted by hdcl

The 2125 was having different issues as of last Friday. I do not have an update on that one but for some reason I was told that the testing cycle for the 2125 was not as long so that if the issues were fixed, it was not a 4 week wait.

Is the wifi hardware there on the 2125 or not? How is it disabled?

Posted by: CA

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Originally Posted by freemz

Is the wifi hardware there on the 2125 or not? How is it disabled?

Ask Verizon they disable cellular when using WiFi.

Posted by: nskgti23

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Originally Posted by jeasher

Don't worry man, I'll cover you for the next 6 mos. So when is it coming out?

Alright, send me a PM with your email... I will send you a contract that I will need signed and notarized... Included in it will be a salary matching that of my Cingular pay, a copy of my last 6 months sales records and commission levels and my insurance costs. On top of that will be the letter explaining the ammount owed in Bonus for 2005. Once that is signed and returned, I will release the date (and for that matter send you a brand new Wizard)...

Posted by: jeasher

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Originally Posted by nskgti23

And what if you give out the info and you don't get fired? Because even if your superiors see you post (not likely), how are they going to know it's you? BTW, my e-mail address is: support@cingular.com.

Haha.

Posted by: TheTrueStar

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Originally Posted by suavebaby

At least cingular kould let us pre-order the 8125 for us who wants it without a contract

I agree... does Cingular let us pre-order phones? My friend pre-ordered the i930 and got it a week after it came out and a week later it was sold out.. I want to pre order my 8125!!!

Posted by: CA

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Originally Posted by nskgti23