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The old HTC/Cingular 8100 & 8125 smartphone thread
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Posted by: Omega2008

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Originally Posted by zachavm

Omega,

You may be able to purchase through B2B and not know it. I can because it is possible through my university. Go to this site and type in your school email. It will then let you know if you are eligable. If you are, it will email you a link that you can use to check out currently available deals. You can also save a little bit on monthly charges (ex. 39.99 plan is 33.99).

http://www.cingular.com/college/

Zach

Yeah I already tried that, its a no go for me. I don't think my University offers discounts to students. I am not to worried about it. I will just wait to Jan. I will be better off that way. I may get a O2 Atom instead, not sure. But time will tell. Thanks anyways Zach, I do apreciate you trying to help.

Posted by: duchski

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Originally Posted by Omega2008

Nope not for me. Not good enough reason for me.

I want to be able to buy any phone (GSM) and just pop my SIM card in it and off I go. I don't want to be stuck to the phones that the carrier offers. Not only that, but I have verizon and was not to impressed. Why should I pay 175 bucks to get out of contract when I want a new phone? When I can save that 175 bucks for something more useful, say accessories or even throw it back for savings torwards the next device I want. .

We do not often realise it but this is us consumers who ultimatelly control the market. You have to realize that and act accrodingly. I, for that matter, will not subisdize CDMA as an obsolete technology as well as because I perceive it as a threat to the international standard of GSM, which as opposed to CDMA, allows users to freely utilize any available equipment anywhere in the world (with some exceptions), which translates to not only convenience and freedom of choice but lower prices as well. I think we are all here more or less "technogically concious" and we all know that to establish a real competition in the market you have to have interoperability of equipment and ease of changing carriers. Since "number portability" is already there we need to make sure the number of GSM carriers increases. So, NO, I refuse to suport VZ or any other non-GSM carrier in any possible way.
Long live GSM! Long live freedom of choice! Long live free market!

Posted by: CA

Anyone know how this phone is in size and shape compared to an Axim PDA? If it's too big/heavy I'm thinking of the 2125, but I would rather this one.

Posted by: pgray007

The 700w does look nice but I'm in the GSM boat as well. I travel internationally quite a bit so CDMA is basically out. The funny thing is that CDMA is a better technology in terms of spectrum usage (i.e. more calls in the same amount of bandwidth). The next generation of "GSM" technology will actually be based on CDMA (WCDMA). WCDMA won't be compatible with EVDO and Verizon/Sprint since the standard is slightly different so the EU countries don't have to pay licensing fees to Qualacomm.

Posted by: Omega2008

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Originally Posted by blueshockeynut

Posted this on some other forums, but I finally got my hands on the 2125 and the 8125, pics are attached, am currently in the process of reviewing them, any questions, feel free to ask.

JB

You can see here that the the length of the 8125 is the same as the 2124, and we know how small the 2125 is so the 8125 is a pretty nice sized PPC IMHO.

Posted by: high_tek

I wonder if they got any emulators to run on wm5 yet. I have all the old school systems like neo geo, nintendo and sega on my psp but if i could put them on my phone, well, how sweet it is. Nothing like playing sum metroid in the crapper @ work. Then again I dropped the motorola in the crapper while playing sum chess so maybe not. Well maybe with a hand strap. :P
Thanks 4 the ammo smcassara, I will try signing up for B2B with my work e-mail, luckily I am the IT guy @ my place so I have alot of pull when it comes to technology upgrades.
Any word on a gps program that might work with this phone ? I am also a dispatcher @ my place for our 10 sum odd drivers, it would be sweet having maps w/ directions on their phones as opposed to printing all their maps.

Posted by: Omega2008

TomTom has a WM5 verison of its Smartphone GPS sofware I believe. You will need a BT GPS reciever but other than that it will work fine.

Posted by: duchski

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Originally Posted by pgray007

The 700w does look nice but I'm in the GSM boat as well. I travel internationally quite a bit so CDMA is basically out. The funny thing is that CDMA is a better technology in terms of spectrum usage (i.e. more calls in the same amount of bandwidth). The next generation of "GSM" technology will actually be based on CDMA (WCDMA). WCDMA won't be compatible with EVDO and Verizon/Sprint since the standard is slightly different so the EU countries don't have to pay licensing fees to Qualacomm.

Agreed: WCDMA is the way to go. I just hope we do not develop another alternative and completely uncompatible "standard" that will limit the number of devices available and effectively keep us locked to carriers. Let's face it, carriers would love to have us locked to their network through long term contracts and incompatible technology, we have seen it in every other industry as well (e.g. computers). But it is in our, consumers, interest to force them to adopt standards that ensure there is a real competition in the market.

You may say this is entirely off-topic, buy I just wanted to remind you that we will have 8125/2125 only because some of the US carriers decided to adopt GSM. Let's be clear here. Had we have five non-GSM carrriers like before the year 2000, we would have to wait very long before seeing any smartphones at all... Look at VZ's "achievements" in this field...

Do not support VZ, Spr*nt or Ne*tel. Let's force all the carriers to adopt GSM and make our market more competitive.

Posted by: CA

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Originally Posted by high_tek

I wonder if they got any emulators to run on wm5 yet. I have all the old school systems like neo geo, nintendo and sega on my psp but if i could put them on my phone, well, how sweet it is. Nothing like playing sum metroid in the crapper @ work. Then again I dropped the motorola in the crapper while playing sum chess so maybe not. Well maybe with a hand strap. :P
Thanks 4 the ammo smcassara, I will try signing up for B2B with my work e-mail, luckily I am the IT guy @ my place so I have alot of pull when it comes to technology upgrades.
Any word on a gps program that might work with this phone ? I am also a dispatcher @ my place for our 10 sum odd drivers, it would be sweet having maps w/ directions on their phones as opposed to printing all their maps.

On a side not give Windows Live Local Maps at try, it's new and amazing. I has birds eye view of some locations that is scary You can see garbage outside of a house on the net.

It also has a scratchpad that saves locations that you can map in the future. I'll bet there will be a GPS plug in for it(free API available)

Posted by: Omega2008

Windows Local Live is amazing! I can't wait to see if it can work on a PPC or even a smartphone. I may try going there on my MPx 220 just for the heck of it.

Posted by: CA

That thing looks nice it's a fifty/fifty thing for me since I do have an Axim. I think I can wait a little longer and see the price on a new 2 year, hopefully with the unlimited data discount that's on the 2125. It really makes no sense to get this phone without data. And in the 2125's case, with the discount it's not really expensive.

Posted by: duchski

2125 has just became available via cing's websales

Posted by: CA

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Originally Posted by Omega2008

Windows Local Live is amazing! I can't wait to see if it can work on a PPC or even a smartphone. I may try going there on my MPx 220 just for the heck of it.

Wow now!!! It needs a full HTML browser and to route it needs X. From what I have read things will change, but to see it in a J2ME app is a long way off.

Oh yea I know your covered, but This is a true data monster to be sure.

Posted by: Omega2008

It pulled up on my phone without a problem, though you can't use it and it looks wiered it works! hahaha.

Posted by: holdenmichael

http://www.gearlive.com/index.php/n...eview-12091111/

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The browser still lacks Javascript, but is both easier to use and more functional that it’s competitors on the market (such as the Blazer browser on the Treo 650.)

Is that correct? Pocket IE isn't Javasript enabled?

Posted by: CA

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Originally Posted by Omega2008

It pulled up on my phone without a problem, though you can't use it and it looks wiered it works! hahaha.

Man I hate it when that happens.

Posted by: Omega2008

No Javascript on the PIE.

Posted by: smokeyb111

I saw a post on Engadget stating that the HTC 2125 was up on the Cingular website, and I can't help but wonder if this could possibly mean that the 8125 is right around the corner...........

Posted by: Omega2008

Nope. 20th for B2B customers and early Jan for other customers. Well if I am correct of course.

Posted by: stillrockin

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Originally Posted by duchski

2125 has just became available via cing's websales

I browsed over to see it and it wasn't there

Wondered over to engadget and they reported it now on the site also, but added an update that it had been pulled until Monday . . . . $199 ain't a bad price for this phone . . . I am still holding out for the 8125 though . . .

Posted by: Omega2008

Yeah....no wi-fi kills it for me though. I wasn't in school it wouldn't matter to me.

Posted by: smokeyb111

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Originally Posted by Omega2008

Nope. 20th for B2B customers and early Jan for other customers. Well if I am correct of course.

Good thing I'm a B2B customer. Is that the "latest" release date? Has the 2125 been available via B2B?

Posted by: Omega2008

No...which is odd. It seems they are going to make the 8125 exclusive to B2B first then release it to regular customers. They did not do this with the 2125. I have no clue why.

Posted by: duchski

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Originally Posted by Omega2008

No...which is odd. It seems they are going to make the 8125 exclusive to B2B first then release it to regular customers. They did not do this with the 2125. I have no clue why.

Marketing 101. They attempt to position 8125 as a business solution and 2125 as consumer gadget just not to dilute the message and confuse telecom managers

Posted by: Omega2008

I am a engieering major....I don't know much about marketing.

Posted by: pcman

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Originally Posted by Omega2008

You can see here that the the length of the 8125 is the same as the 2124, and we know how small the 2125 is so the 8125 is a pretty nice sized PPC IMHO.

Great get
but I have one question
why do the photos of very expensive cell phones are always taken with a very cheap camera or cam phone ?

by the way I will be getting one of each of these phones

Posted by: holdenmichael

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Originally Posted by zachavm

I received the e-mail with the link, but the link just sent me to a log-in page and I don't have a username or password. I'm assuming this means that I have to contact someone in my University, but I wanted to ask you how you accessed the deals page first.

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Originally Posted by Omega2008

No Javascript on the PIE.

Seeing as how my SideKick II has a Javascript enabled browser I was going to complain, but I'm not really sure why. Other than a few features on another message board that I visit, I'm not sure what Javascript has added to the SKII's browser.

Posted by: myke

will we reach page 100 before the phone comes out? sources say: yes

Posted by: stillrockin

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Originally Posted by Omega2008

Windows Local Live is amazing! I can't wait to see if it can work on a PPC or even a smartphone. I may try going there on my MPx 220 just for the heck of it.

If you ever read the 10/30/05 Gates/Ozzies note to employees about Windows Live and what all they are striving for, you will know that Gates is putting lots of eggs in this basket. .net framework/msn is lots of infrastructure in place to build upon. Its long, but if you would like to see the direction that microsoft is headed in (mobile devices mentioned several times) I posted a copy here. Its interesting to read who they consider their competitors of the future (google) and don't see others as a threat (yahoo)

Posted by: stillrockin

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Originally Posted by pcman

Great get
but I have one question
why do the photos of very expensive cell phones are always taken with a very cheap camera or cam phone ?

by the way I will be getting one of each of these phones

Lots of these pictures are taken at trade shows/events. These are most often called spy shots. But they are just quickly snapped pictures of prototypes from vendor booths displaying their coming products.

Posted by: zachavm

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Originally Posted by holdenmichael

This happened to me to. The problem is that the page link it send you is specific to the ip address that you typed in your email for cingular at. Sometimes computer lab computers may create problems for this (rotating ip addresses or something like that). Make sure that you follow the link from the same computer that you filled out your email and zip code at. If that doesn't work, repeat everything at a different computer.

If I use my home computer, it works. When I am at labs at my college, it doesn't. Hope that helped.

Zach

Posted by: CydeWeyz

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Originally Posted by holdenmichael

These Cingular emails don't work at all with Firefox. If you can view the source of the email, and copy the actual link, then paste it into IE and you'll see the Premier page.

Posted by: zachavm

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Originally Posted by CydeWeyz

These Cingular emails don't work at all with Firefox. If you can view the source of the email, and copy the actual link, then paste it into IE and you'll see the Premier page.

Don't know what you're talking about. I used firefox, and it worked just fine. Oh well, just use whatever works for you.

Zach

Posted by: pgray007

Looks like the 2125 is back on Cingular's website as of 19:51 ET. Maybe its bigger brother will follow shortly!

Posted by: jmj3p

The 2125 is not up on public or B2B site. I don't know what you saw. Probably another mis-step by Cingular. Can they get anything right?

Posted by: stillrockin

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Originally Posted by jmj3p

The 2125 is not up on public or B2B site. I don't know what you saw. Probably another mis-step by Cingular. Can they get anything right?

Well it up for me and my zip code . . 37663

$299 with $100 mail in rebate . . . I hate rebates . .

Posted by: jmj3p

That's wierd. It hasn't launched on the West Coast. LA zip code. 90069

Posted by: stillrockin

yea, I have seen this before . . . I bet it shows up in a couple of hours, but just for kicks, try refreshing the page . . . I have done this before when new phones have launched and they will show up . . It worked on the hp WM03 launch a few weeks ago . . . .

Posted by: jmj3p

So it's not up for my NY zip code either. I live in NY/LA. Bizarre. And its not up for my parents zip in NC either. Must be a glitch in the system.

Posted by: stillrockin

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Originally Posted by jmj3p

So it's not up for my NY zip code either. I live in NY/LA. Bizarre. And its not up for my parents zip in NC either. Must be a glitch in the system.

Well, try mine . . . 37660
Let me know if you see it

Posted by: stillrockin

Here is the direct link, don't know if that will work or not . .

https://onlinestorez.cingular.com/c...00&WT.svl=img22

Posted by: CydeWeyz

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Originally Posted by zachavm

Don't know what you're talking about. I used firefox, and it worked just fine. Oh well, just use whatever works for you.
Zach

I'd like to see that screen shot up of Cingular Premier working in Firefox. What extensions are you using?

Posted by: jmj3p

Yeah I see it with your Zipcode. CIngular's release strategies are beyond me......

Posted by: stillrockin

Well, I tried pulling it up in a 2nd page and its not working either . . .
by the way, for anyone interested, I am currently in IE. But I pull the public site up in firefox most of the time . . .

Cingular 2125
$299.99 *Retail Price:
-$100.00 Mail-in Rebate

$199.99 *Your Price
33.33% Total Savings

*2 yr contract-New service price

Posted by: stillrockin

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Originally Posted by jmj3p

Yeah I see it with your Zipcode. CIngular's release strategies are beyond me......

Don't get me started . . . I have ordered three phones off their site this year, and have yet to recieve any of them! They are always sold out of any phone I have ordered, and they end up canceling the order. But they never bother letting me know past the confirmation order right after I submit. Its up to me to go to their site, and type it in to find out the status . . I am telling you, if it wasn't for GSM and rollover, I would be shopping for more than a new phone . . .

Posted by: zachavm

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Originally Posted by CydeWeyz

I'd like to see that screen shot up of Cingular Premier working in Firefox. What extensions are you using?

Well, I would, but right now it is just bringing me to the login (IE and FF). Don't know what's up with it. As for extentions, I'm not quite sure what you're referring to. the I believe that the address they send you after typing in your email and zip code is different for each person and can't be used at another computer. I say this because the email with the link in it specifies the ip adress the request came from.

Zach

Posted by: dcdr76

I cannot find any information on how big the screen is for 8125. Anybody knows?

Posted by: pgray007

Came up for my NY zip code... try 10528... still up as of 23:20ET. This is on the regular old cingular site. I do have a b2b account with them, but just went to cingular.com. Looks like it's official for a Monday release at least for the 2125.

I'd add a screenshot but don't know how.

Posted by: jmj3p

The 2125 finally showed up out here in LA....with no rebate though...299.99. Ugh. Will hold out for 8125 through B2B

Posted by: Rock3nrenigade

I dont have it in 10583. Or any of the zips I have checked tbh.

Posted by: bikemanj7

are we talking about the 2125 or the 8125? i hope the 8125 comes out tomarrow!!!

Posted by: Rock3nrenigade

ok just checked again. and its up! Very awesome day indeed! Ill call my store tmrw see if they got them in stock.

Posted by: bikemanj7

8125 or the 2125? i only see the 2125 on the page?

Posted by: Rock3nrenigade

2125 so far....

Posted by: bikemanj7

ok. Are we expecting the 8125 tomarrow or is it still up in the air?

Posted by: Rock3nrenigade

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Originally Posted by bikemanj7

ok. Are we expecting the 8125 tomarrow or is it still up in the air?

No one really knows.

Posted by: bikemanj7

I cant wait for this phone to come out! Now i just have to decied if i want wait for 8125 or just go ahead and buy the 2125?

Posted by: PointZero

I believe the latest tentative release date for the Cingular 8125 is December 20th. Of course, this is the release date for B2B customers. The rest of us will have to wait until some time 'til January.

Posted by: bikemanj7

is B2B the same as a premier acct or a foundation acct?

Posted by: splunk

Yes, it's a business account. Man, I hope I can get this on the 20th!

Posted by: pcman

I ordered the 2125 online on sunday
I hope it gets here soon
I called my local stores and they still didnt know anything about the 2125 or 8125

Posted by: Jakaroe808

Im not sure I understand B2B. The 2125 was not released early on the B2B site and looks as if it is going strait to the retail site. What makes everyone think that the 8125 wont do the same?

Posted by: bikemanj7

i agree!? Cingular is so weird some times!

Posted by: duchski

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Originally Posted by bikemanj7

i agree!? Cingular is so weird some times!

It is not wierd is just disoragnized. Also, remember that everything posted here is speculation and any date or other detail can change due to many reasons...

Posted by: vpathak

So I tried all the zip codes posted here and none worked. I live in southern california and its not coming up. Its about 11:15 PM Pacific time....guess will have to try t'row morning?!:-(

Posted by: PointZero

Actually, it has been explained that Cingular is trying to market the Cingular 8125 as a business orientated phone. That's why it's appearing on the B2B channel first. I'm guessing they have found that the typical customer isn't exactly interested in a phone like the 8125.

Posted by: dingobiatch

hmm.. can someone with a B2B account order me a 8125, ship it directly to my house? is that possible?

Posted by: holdenmichael

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Originally Posted by vpathak

So I tried all the zip codes posted here and none worked. I live in southern california and its not coming up. Its about 11:15 PM Pacific time....guess will have to try t'row morning?!:-(

Do you have the right thread?

From everything I've seen posted in this thread the 8125 won't be released to 'regular' customers until January while B2Bers will be able to purchase it on the 20th of this month.

I'm also looking for clarification on whether or not this will show up on the Premier site as I recently found out that I'm eligible for a discount.

Posted by: stillrockin

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Originally Posted by holdenmichael

The word is, it should appear on Premier/B2B 12/20/05 and the public site 1/9/06. No one here knows for sure or if they do, they don't say exactly because of NDA's. But the best we can tell, these are the release dates that we have to work with . . .

LOL! As far as being on topic, no one has really been on topic for close to 100 pages now. We have covered morals, music, ages of posters, and new posters jump in to ask the same questions . . Most of the time, even though those same question have been repeated at least 10 times, those are the only questions on topic!

Posted by: pgray007

How does one know if a phone is available to B2B? I have a B2B account and always get routed to the b2b folks when I call Cingular (which is nice since my call is answered in about 30 seconds), but I usually look at phones on the regular old webiste. If I log in with my phone number will I get redirected to the B2B site or is there somewhere special I should be going? I assume if nothing else we'll know the second it's available here and I can give the lads at Cingular a call.

Oddly enough, just checked again and now the 2125 is gone. Who knows what those Cingular cats are doing??? Maybe their web guy hit the "Holiday" party up a little too hard...

On topic:

On the "push" email update, is the current thinking that this will be pre-installed on the phone, or is this something we're going to have to download at a later date and do a self-install?

Posted by: carmonaj

Up and running in my neck of the woods for the 2125 ,but holding out a little longer

Posted by: captainmicahp

Didn't the new blackberry (8700c) come to both the B2B side and the consumer side at the same time? I dont think anyone would confuse that with a consmer phone and a business device. The blackberry 7100g which was kind of a consumer device however, was released B2B first so go figure.

Posted by: Jakaroe808

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Originally Posted by captainmicahp

Didn't the new blackberry (8700c) come to both the B2B side and the consumer side at the same time? I dont think anyone would confuse that with a consmer phone and a business device. The blackberry 7100g which was kind of a consumer device however, was released B2B first so go figure.

This is true as well.. I may just be getting my hopes up, but can anyone confirm the last time that a device hit the B2B site before the consumer site? I thought, back in the day, the SMT5600 hit B2B side first as well, and now we are seeing everything launched on both sides. What gives?

Posted by: smithtec

2125 is listed in the consumer section for me in an NYC area code..... Is it possible to buy a phone from the cingular site without a plan? I have the 2125 in my cart but there is no "checkout" button.....

Posted by: jlczl

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Originally Posted by smithtec

2125 is listed in the consumer section for me in an NYC area code..... Is it possible to buy a phone from the cingular site without a plan? I have the 2125 in my cart but there is no "checkout" button.....

No. You have to start a new plan w/contract or upgrade and renew contract when buying online.

Posted by: fowen

This is getting crazy. There is a seperate thread for the 2125... so why is everyone posting questions/status in the 8125 thread?

This is NOT the 2125 thread.

Posted by: Omega2008

I concur. Lets keep on topic please. You guys should post any information about the 2125 in the 2125 thread.

Posted by: Jakaroe808

I'm curious, and may just be getting my hopes up, but can anyone confirm the last time that a device hit the B2B site before the consumer site? I thought, back in the day, the SMT5600 hit B2B side first as well, and now we are seeing everything launched on both sides. What gives?

Posted by: Omega2008

I believe the SX66 hit the B2B site first, as well as the MPx 220. But I am not totally sure.

Posted by: smithtec

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Originally Posted by Omega2008

I concur. Lets keep on topic please. You guys should post any information about the 2125 in the 2125 thread......I believe the SX66 hit the B2B site first, as well as the MPx 220.

Do as I say not as I do? People are curious about how cing is launching other phones to get an idea about how the 8125 is going to be launched. Thats the reason for your post and for mine. my question about adding it to the cart will apply for all phones. This thread would be only half as long if you omit information that is about other phones / carriers however the info may have some relevence to the topic. Likewise, adding posts to tell others to stay on topic isnt actually the topic either. Bunch of grumpy .....

Posted by: Jakaroe808

Well, some of us here can hope that the 8125 will be launched on both sides (B2B and consumer). But for the others who are able to purchase through B2B, I guess it would take a little form the privilege of being a B2B customer.

Posted by: Omega2008

Yes you are correct, however I am just voicing my opinion, you can do as you wish. Secondly, my comment wasn't directly solely at you, it was directed to all off topic posts. Yes threads will go off on tangents, that is nature of things. However when the thread goes too off topic, thats when its a problem. It junks up the thread with unnecessary information and makes it harder for people new to these long threads to find the information that they want and or need.

If you would like an idea on how the 8125 will be launched I will explain it to you. I will be launched on the Cingular website at the same time as on the B2B Preimer site or the Preimer site will get it first. The date for the launch is the 20th for B2B, however we still do not know if B2B will get it first then later the Cingular website or both will get it at the same time. It is my opinion, that it will launch on B2B first since most PPC's Cingular offers do. However I could be wrong, I am just giving my best educated guess.

Next, I never read your original post. I again was just voicing how many of the posts are off topic. To answer your question, No, you can not order a device from the Cingular website at the no-contract price. You must call Cingular Telesales to buy the phone outright. You can however do the following on the Cingular site when it comes to purchacing products and services: Add a line, Order new service, upgrade a phone on a existing line(s) (if you qualify), and Purchace accessories. Your post was about the 2125, you should of posted in the 2125 thread. Why you may ask? I will explain, it is my understanding that you want the best possiable answer to the question you posted. Based on the question you posted, it would see that you would have better luck getting an answer for it in the 2125 thread because more than likely someone there has already attempted to just buy the 2125 from the Cingular website without service. It just seems to me that you would want to post your questions in the thread that will most likely give you the best answer. Lastly, I am not grumpy, I am just stating facts. Remember I don't tell anyone to do anything, I just voice my opinion. Weather you agree with me or not is your descion. If you want to further discuss this, PM me.

Posted by: jmj3p

Why is every one so sure of a 12/20 release date on the 8125 on B2B? Cingular seems to tends towards mon. releases and that's a Tues.

Posted by: Omega2008

I am not so sure of it. Its only a tenitive date.

Posted by: RulinSmoove

8125 hurry up!

Posted by: Jakaroe808

My bet is that the 8125 will be released on the 19th and that it will be available on the consumer site as well as the B2B site. I'm not sure I would put money on that statement but I'm optimistic. At least I can throw it out there in hopes that someone will comment, like "Nope" or "I cant say anything". hhhhhuuuummnskgtimmm....

Posted by: malixsys

Well the rebate form has the 8125 listed on it and it expires on Dec. 24th, so I'm optimistic too

Posted by: nskgti23

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Originally Posted by Jakaroe808

My bet is that the 8125 will be released on the 19th and that it will be available on the consumer site as well as the B2B site. I'm not sure I would put money on that statement but I'm optimistic. At least I can throw it out there in hopes that someone will comment, like "Nope" or "I cant say anything". hhhhhuuuummnskgtimmm....

Don't expect to see it on the consumer side before January....

Take that.

Posted by: GunFingers

I just hope it launches before Jan 10. I broke down and bought a Treo 650 despite the fact that I hate the Palm OS. I just couldn't gp without mobile email any longer. I fully intend to return this thing as soon as the 8125 launches.

If it isn't on the market by Jan 10, I'm stuck with the Treo. My fingers are crossed on the Dec 20th launch.

Posted by: Jakaroe808

Quote:

Originally Posted by nskgti23

Don't expect to see it on the consumer side before January....

Take that.

Well, that blows a dong! I don't think I can wait another month.

Posted by: fowen

Quote:

Originally Posted by malixsys

Well the rebate form has the 8125 listed on it and it expires on Dec. 24th, so I'm optimistic too

I believe it was also listed on teh rebate form in november... so I wouldn't put too much stock into this rabate form.

I think they may be waiting till they sell a certain number of the HP devices before they release the 8125, kinda like how they were waiting till they sold most of the SMT5600's before they released the 2125... but I could be wrong.

BTW, does anyone know the original "release date" for the HP PPC?

Posted by: nskgti23

[QUOTE=fowen]
I think they may be waiting till they sell a certain number of the HP devices before they release the 8125, kinda like how they were waiting till they sold most of the SMT5600's before they released the 2125... but I could be wrong.
[QUOTE]

Your wrong....

Pretty simple.

Posted by: nskgti23

Quote:

Originally Posted by fowen

I think they may be waiting till they sell a certain number of the HP devices before they release the 8125, kinda like how they were waiting till they sold most of the SMT5600's before they released the 2125... but I could be wrong.

Your wrong....

Pretty simple.

Posted by: blueshockeynut

Confirmed: 8125 will be available via buisness and B2B on the 20th of this month, price will be $299.00 with a 2 year buisness contract. Orders can be placed 5 days before release for buisness based launches.

Waiting for confirmation on consumer launch.

Also, have been using the 8125 for the last couple of days, not bad so far, waiting on the new rom to see what they update.

Posted by: rickshred

Folks, First time poster here, I have been ready daily (hourly) breathlessly about the shipdate for the 8125. I own a cingular SX66 and see this as a perfect evolution of the product, and addresses my chief complaints: size , crappy bluetooth, and keyboard functionality, while maintaining a relatively large screen (don't like the small Treo screen).

I have a farily significant bit of info to offer. I have just received an email from our B2B cingular rep who said when asked about ordering: "You will place it through me. We are having a soft launch on the 22nd of December." I would think, therefore, that some of us lucky few (me!) might have a chance to own this before Christmas. Maybe.

Now I ask for one thing. I am a tmobile user (locked into contract), and as I mentioned am using a Cingular SX66 unlocked on tmobile. I plan to use the 8125 from Cingular on TMO for 2 reasons: 1. Can't wait for Tmoible to launch their version of the Wizard. 2. It looks much better than the faceplace Tmobile has gone with for the Wizard.

Can somebody much smarter than I please offer speculation/information regarding thoghts on the locked status of the phone, and if it is locked, how/when I could find an unlcock code, etc. I know this is a Cingular forum, but hey, I'm giving some info as well as hopefully receiving.

Thanks!

Posted by: Quatre

Quote:

Originally Posted by stillrockin

Good luck on getting ANY refurbed units from Cingular's site . . I got tired of waiting for the 8125 and decided to go with the $140 refurbed Treo. (I have owned several and had much software and decided I couldn't wait for the 8125) So the day I ordered I received a conformation number. Three days later, nothing. . . . So I log on to check only to find my order has been canceled. A call to my credit card automation shows the charge. So I spend the next 2 1/2 hours on the phone with Cingular CS. . . Finally I got someone on the line who could tell me what happened. They ran out . . . . . . . Days before I placed my order. . . . I can understand the fact that they can run out of a limited supply of refurbed phones. . . . What is not acceptable is never bothering to tell me . . . The charge on CC was a pending charge and went away after about 36 hours . . The lady told me to call every other day and see if more had come in, but that they used the refurbed units to replace the units of existing customers, and sometimes they might have extra . . . . . I am sorry but this one really left a bad taste in my mouth! Thats why I have decided to try and practice patience and wait on a non-contracted 8125 like I started to do way back in October . . . .

Thanks for letting me get this off my chest!

Well there will be one more refurbed Treo 650 available when I sell mine possibly to the closest local Cingular store. Although how much do they give you? I know sprint gives a flat rate $50 which is great for a crap phone but you lose a lot if its a better phone. I will sell you my Treo 650 as soon as vzw releases the XV6700 (Apache) but annoyingly they seem to be delaying that release for the Treo 700w or after.

I'm ready to go back to sprint and the ppc6700 just to try one now with the new logo and blue backlit keys as the one i tried had the old logo and white keys.

Posted by: Quatre

Quote:

Originally Posted by blueshockeynut

Omega,

Always a please to get new info out to everyone, and you are correct, the 2125 will NOT have wireless but the 8125 does have it, but here is the kick in the pants for ya, in the 2125's Communication Manager, were you would normally turn on bluetooth and such, everthing is labled with numbers, i.e. 1,2,3, that type of scenario, whats funny is the top is missing with the number 1 as well, thats whats is screwy, makes you wonder what they really wanted to do.

Also I was able to get my hands on a Treo 700W Alpha version for two weeks about a month ago, let me just say this, it is SUPER NICE, and I am not for CDMA/EVDO either, so if the GSM carriers out there can come out with something, it will be very nice. There were some nice things about it and some things I wasnt too sure on, granted there were some improvements over the old Treo 650.

JB

blue shockey,

I am lucky enough to have both cdma and gsm and being that cdma has faster speed evdo right now until umts/hsdpa comes out for gsm I figure its better for me to pay for data and have a pda phone on cdma right now instead of gsm. After all this was the reason I got the Treo 650 on gsm with edge since the cdma version was slower with only 1xrtt.

Anyway, point is I am kind of stuck with vzw as my cdma carrier for various reasons but I did get to try out the ppc6700 on Sprint (one wiht the old red logo and white backlit keys as they now have one with the new logo and blue keys). I was originally interested in the Wizard 200 series (imate kjam or qtek 9100) but then wanted to wait for this Cingular 8125 series 100 wizard for the cheaper price as its the same insides just slightly different (more square?) form factor as the 200 series.

But as I said, i then realized why get a pda phone on gsm to deal with slow edge (though wm5 with pie will be faster then the blazer browser on the treo 650) when i have to choice to get a wm5 pda phone on cdma with evdo. I was pretty much therefore set now on waiting for the xv6700 for vzw as I wanted a diff form factor then the Treo. But frustratingly enough vzw is so delayed in releasing their 6700 possibly because they want the Treo 700w to be the first wm5 device on vzw even though they are the last to release one carrier wise and sprint has had their 6700 apache out for months.

POint is , i see you mention that the Treo 700w impressed you and though i was set on the xv6700 Apache to go with a diff form factor and since it has a bigger screen and keyboard which I can type much faster with then the treo, I do realize and have seen it mentioned that the TReo form is better for one handed use and quick inputs like zip or first 3 letter when searching for a name etc. then having to pull out keyboard on the apache.

Since I really should be waiting till mid/late Jan anwyay for my moto v710 refund and the fact that the xv6700 may likely not be released until the Treo 700w is (though there seems to be evidence of a moved up Treo 700w release not unlike the cdma razr coming out a week early and rumour that the xv6700 will be out for christmas) point is the Treo 700w now is i guess in the running. Just wanted to get your opinion on what you thought was the best of these devices you tested and though i'm pretty set on a cma pda phone for evdo, if the wizard really outshines the cdma pda phones enough to make evdo not worth it then its still in the running but the data speed is one of the most important things to me and i dont think any of its features is going to make it worth giving up evdo not even wifi g and especially since i still get get to keep my gsm carrier as its not a one or the other situation for me.

Posted by: blueshockeynut

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quatre

Honestly in my opinion, wait for the 700W if you are deadset on EVDO and Verizon, and since you are in a contract with them, I would wait at this point, even more so when Cingular comes out with there 8125 you can walk into a store and give it a run for its money without having to buy it and decide on what you want to do at this point. The only thing I wasnt able to test on the 700W was the phone quality and speedtests, do to the fact that it was an Alpha based version and Palm wouldnt turn up the service, they basically wanted to get the device into a few peoples hands and see what they thought of it, I hope to have my hands on a fully operational one by the end of the month. As a side note I also have an I730 and completly understand why you like the EVDO on these phones, very fast for quick web searches.

So if you have a little patience, wait for the 700W to come out and make a choice then, that way you dont kick yourself in the pants later.

JB

Posted by: nskgti23

It is locked...

Quote:

Originally Posted by rickshred

Folks, First time poster here, I have been ready daily (hourly) breathlessly about the shipdate for the 8125. I own a cingular SX66 and see this as a perfect evolution of the product, and addresses my chief complaints: size , crappy bluetooth, and keyboard functionality, while maintaining a relatively large screen (don't like the small Treo screen).

I have a farily significant bit of info to offer. I have just received an email from our B2B cingular rep who said when asked about ordering: "You will place it through me. We are having a soft launch on the 22nd of December." I would think, therefore, that some of us lucky few (me!) might have a chance to own this before Christmas. Maybe.

Now I ask for one thing. I am a tmobile user (locked into contract), and as I mentioned am using a Cingular SX66 unlocked on tmobile. I plan to use the 8125 from Cingular on TMO for 2 reasons: 1. Can't wait for Tmoible to launch their version of the Wizard. 2. It looks much better than the faceplace Tmobile has gone with for the Wizard.

Can somebody much smarter than I please offer speculation/information regarding thoghts on the locked status of the phone, and if it is locked, how/when I could find an unlcock code, etc. I know this is a Cingular forum, but hey, I'm giving some info as well as hopefully receiving.

Thanks!

Posted by: BlueMovement

In what way does the lock effect the functionality of the 8125?

Posted by: CA

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueMovement

In what way does the lock effect the functionality of the 8125?

If you don't have a Cingular account you can't use it as a phone or a PDA.

No U SIM'S in the US yet.

Posted by: vpathak

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sonix

If you don't have a Cingular account you can't use it as a phone or a PDA.

No U SIM'S in the US yet.

But I thought if you call them and ask it to be unlocked, they will unlock it for you.

I did that on my older Motorola v220 phone...coz I was traveling to Europe and Asia. My phone worked in both the continents...all I did was switched the SIM card with a local one

Posted by: Omega2008

Well that is true, you have to be a Cingular customer for more than 90 days. At least that is what the CS told me. Cingular unlocked my MPx 220 with no problem.

Posted by: CA

Quote:

Originally Posted by vpathak

Getting it unlocked is another issue all together. I have read posts that say Cingular either won't or make it difficult. And there is always the discussions about having it done. Whatever, but I wouldn't buy the phone with the intention of unlocking it at least now. Personally if I was going to a different country I just use your old phone for now.

I don't believe they will unlock it in the remorse period at least.

Posted by: duchski

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sonix

Getting it unlocked is another issue all together. I have read posts that say Cingular either won't or make it difficult. And there is always the discussions about having it done. Whatever, but I wouldn't buy the phone with the intention of unlocking it at least now. Personally if I was going to a different country I just use your old phone for now.
I don't believe they will unlock it in the remorse period at least.

That's incorrect. CINGULAR will not unlock your phone. Period.
There are available free tools to unlock smart phones, you could probably sue them to unlock 8125....
Check MoDaCo for details.
PS The whole reason of having a quad-band phone is to be able to use it anywhere anytime...

Posted by: Omega2008

You are incorrect. Cingular unlocked my MPx 220. Not only that but they also gave me the unlock code to a Motorola Razr I gave to my girlfriend, so yes Cingular will do it. Am I saying its hard to get done? Yep but if you get ahold of a CS tech or a knowlegable CS then they will get it done. They send you an email within 5 days or so with the unlock code.

Posted by: kirkyuhnke

Sonix mentioned that if you don't have a Cingular SIM card in there it won't work as a phone OR PDA? I was thinking of using the 8125 as a PDA with wifi and keeping my 5600 as my main phone. Sounds like this would be impossible unless I get two cingular accounts?

Posted by: Omega2008

Well I don't think the phone will let you into the OS without a valid SIM. So thats why you probably can't use it as a PDA without a Cingular SIM in it. I know its that way with the MPx 220, before I got it unlocked, if I put an ATT sim in the phone it wouldn't let me use the PDA part of the device, it wouldn't let me past the screen where it asks you for the SIM unlock code.

Posted by: kirkyuhnke

Well I know that's true for the smartphone but most other Windows mobile PDA phones you can still use them if you don't have a sim installed. Cingular would have to go out of its way to make it useless without a SIM, which would suck!

Posted by: duchski

Quote:

Originally Posted by Omega2008

You are incorrect. Cingular unlocked my MPx 220. Not only that but they also gave me the unlock code to a Motorola Razr I gave to my girlfriend, so yes Cingular will do it. Am I saying its hard to get done? Yep but if you get ahold of a CS tech or a knowlegable CS then they will get it done. They send you an email within 5 days or so with the unlock code.

Omega I have no reason not to believe but this is a first time I heard about CING uncloking any phones... How did you do it?

Posted by: Omega2008

I called them and told them that I will be traveling over seas and that I want my phone SIM unlocked so I can use a pre paid SIM. They didn't give me any trouble. I told them the same thing for the Razr.

Posted by: duchski

Quote:

Originally Posted by Omega2008

I called them and told them that I will be traveling over seas and that I want my phone SIM unlocked so I can use a pre paid SIM. They didn't give me any trouble. I told them the same thing for the Razr.

Wow. This is unheard of. I will try myself. If it works it will save me some trouble, although I have to take the application lock off the phone anyway.

Posted by: Mykeee

I've had 3 phones unlocked through cingular, a 6230b, treo 650 and a black razr, just told em I was going overseas.

Posted by: butzchan

Quote:

Originally Posted by blueshockeynut

Confirmed: 8125 will be available via buisness and B2B on the 20th of this month, price will be $299.00 with a 2 year buisness contract. Orders can be placed 5 days before release for buisness based launches.

Waiting for confirmation on consumer launch.

Also, have been using the 8125 for the last couple of days, not bad so far, waiting on the new rom to see what they update.

blueshockeynut, thanks for the information. Please keep us updated when you find out about the consumer launch date.

Posted by: jlczl

I have gotten 6 treos unlocked. Same method as above. No trouble.

Posted by: TheGadgetGuy

Just as an fyi:

You can use ANY Pocket PC Phone device as a PDA without a valid SIM card installed.

In fact, it will operate perfectly as a PDA without a SIM card installed AT ALL. The 'phone' portion simply won't work without a valid SIM.

Hope this helps.

Posted by: myke

8 days and counting...

Posted by: badgermac

Quote:

Originally Posted by duchski

I know Omega2008 responded, but I wanted to reiterate that he was right and in this case you were just a bit off.

I am heading to S. America and wanted to unlock a Treo and got it unlocked from them with no problem. Granted I didn't buy it under contract at a "contract" price so that made a bit of a difference.

Posted by: bikemanj7

HOLLA 8 days!!!

Posted by: CA

Quote:

Originally Posted by Omega2008

Well I don't think the phone will let you into the OS without a valid SIM. So thats why you probably can't use it as a PDA without a Cingular SIM in it. I know its that way with the MPx 220, before I got it unlocked, if I put an ATT sim in the phone it wouldn't let me use the PDA part of the device, it wouldn't let me past the screen where it asks you for the SIM unlock code.

Hence the U SIM(not in this country yet). Presto you can use the device with another carrier or run her without.

Omega please ignore the following.

And please, you know who you are, no nitpicking and contorting me on this. It was featured on techdirt and then again on Engadget. So if your interested do your own research.

Posted by: myke

is that where you cut the sim card in half and put it together to use a dual sim card

Posted by: duchski

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mykeee

I've had 3 phones unlocked through cingular, a 6230b, treo 650 and a black razr, just told em I was going overseas.

Wow. I stand corrected then. Was the phone still active on your account in-contract or after the contract expired?

Posted by: abendx

i unlocked my razr 90 days after signing my contract... it was a bit of a pain finding a rep that had a clue, but once i did they put in the request and a few days later i was e-mailed the unlock code. pretty simple actually.

Posted by: dingobiatch

whens a review gonna be up? im curious to know if the phone is any better than the k-jam.. bugs wise i mean..

Posted by: jlczl

They are having fits about pricing and no contract purchases over at the 2125 release party. Everyone still sure about pricing here?

Posted by: blueshockeynut

Quote:

Originally Posted by dingobiatch

whens a review gonna be up? im curious to know if the phone is any better than the k-jam.. bugs wise i mean..

I am currently reviewing this phone as I write this, I am just waiting on the new ROM update which will be on the devices when they are released.

JB

Posted by: abendx

blueshockeynut.... assuming you are not pulling our chains.... it is five business days prior to your proposed launch date of 12/20. when will the preorders via my premier site be available? i do not see it there now.

Posted by: rickshred

Quote:

Originally Posted by abendx

blueshockeynut.... assuming you are not pulling our chains.... it is five business days prior to your proposed launch date of 12/20. when will the preorders via my premier site be available? i do not see it there now.

Remember that I have an email from the Cingular B2B rep saying the soft launch is on the 22nd. That would mean you could placed an order on Thursday. I am asking him when we can place an order through him, and pricing, of course. Waiting for a response...

Posted by: blueshockeynut

Quote:

Originally Posted by abendx

Not pulling any chains at all, when people wait on products like this, it isnt funny by any account. This information was received direct from Cingular, period. That was as of yesterday, can it change between now and then, you bet, I just hope it doesnt for everyone's sanity.

JB

Posted by: RulinSmoove

ciiiiingular **** YEAH! Comin' to save the motha****in day yeah!

Posted by: exchguy

Quote:

Originally Posted by blueshockeynut

I am currently reviewing this phone as I write this, I am just waiting on the new ROM update which will be on the devices when they are released.

JB

Have you heard if the new ROM update is going to include the MSFP/AKU 2.0?

Listening to a webcast about MSFP yesterday was saying that MSFP shipped a month ago to carriers and OEMs. Hopefully, they've had some time to test and ready to start rolling it out now.

Posted by: Free Man

I called B2B, took them a while but they do have part numbers, etc in the system. They are supposed to be here by the end of the month, but may get pushed into January. No pre-ordering yet.

Posted by: midas

I know the Wizard and the PPC-6700 are very similar devices. Does anybody know if the Bluetooth stacks are the same? I had the PPC-6700 for about a week but had a terrible time with the BT and the system built into my car. It was constantly dropping the connection. Not the phone connection, just the BT connection. I'd like to get the Wizard, but not if I'm going to have the same problems.

Posted by: jeasher

Quote:

Originally Posted by midas

I know the Wizard and the PPC-6700 are very similar devices. Does anybody know if the Bluetooth stacks are the same? I had the PPC-6700 for about a week but had a terrible time with the BT and the system built into my car. It was constantly dropping the connection. Not the phone connection, just the BT connection. I'd like to get the Wizard, but not if I'm going to have the same problems.

I have the QTEK 9100 and I'm experiencing this problem occasionally. I haven't done enough driving with my phone (just got the phone last week) but I have experienced several drops in about 600 miles worth of driving. My car is an Acura TSX.

Posted by: midas

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeasher

Thanks, although that's not really good news. I have the Acura TL. I guess I'll have to cross this one off the list too. 90% of my usage is in the car.

Posted by: fowen

FYI: I have been told that it showed up on the Equipment Lineup today as "Coming Soon".

Posted by: myke

T Minus 7 Days!

Posted by: bikemanj7

holla 7 days!!! um fowen did you call cingular buisness and they told you it was comming soon?

Posted by: bikemanj7

hey guys do you know if the HTC 8125 will display an E for edge when edge is available? i know the HTC 2125 does so i think the 8125 will.

Posted by: zachavm

Quote:

Originally Posted by bikemanj7

hey guys do you know if the HTC 8125 will display an E for edge when edge is available? i know the HTC 2125 does so i think the 8125 will.

No offense, but I just don't see how the heck anyone here could know this.

Well, I guess the people who allready have this might know. That would be supernub at MGN (he has posted here, but he probably doesn't keep up with the thread) and blueshockeynut who has some test units.

Zach

Posted by: kirkyuhnke

Quote:

Originally Posted by bikemanj7

hey guys do you know if the HTC 8125 will display an E for edge when edge is available? i know the HTC 2125 does so i think the 8125 will.

My guess is that it will NOT display an E. That seems to be a smartphone thing for some reason. The other versions of the wizard do not show the E. I wish the PDA version would act more like the smartphone in terms of connections. The smartphone seems to make it very easy where as the PDA version of windows mobile is just annoying at times, always popping up connection messages.

Posted by: Omega2008

It showes the E for edge. If it doesn't, it can be enabled. I know I will be enabling.

Posted by: q1001001

Can someone provide a link or tell how to access

"Equipment Lineup" "Coming Soon" area

Posted by: bikemanj7

thanks omega! ya i will be enabling that too i think it is a cool feature! i would also like to know where people are seeing the equipment lineup where is shows the 8125 comming soon! man i cant wait for this phone ill prolly sleep with it!

Posted by: stez38

Quote:

Originally Posted by q1001001

Can someone provide a link or tell how to access

"Equipment Lineup" "Coming Soon" area

This was in an email from Cingular to business clients. Also listed is the "8100 NC" with "Coming Soon" just like the 8125.

Posted by: blueshockeynut

Quote:

Originally Posted by zachavm

No offense, but I just don't see how the heck anyone here could know this.

Yes, the 8125 does show the "E" for an Edge connection.

JB

Posted by: dgriner

Quote:

Originally Posted by Omega2008

It showes the E for edge. If it doesn't, it can be enabled. I know I will be enabling.

Could this be done on a HTC Wizard (Qtek 9100) as well? I would love to know when EDGE was available or being used.

Thanks!

Posted by: bikemanj7

hey guys do you think we buy this phone we will get a nifty new blue 3g sim card?

Posted by: Windogg

Stupid question, can I use a FAN account to buy this phone with without a contract? Will the business rep even sell me an "orange" phone from a "blue" program?

If the answer is yes, I guess it means I can pick up this phone for 50% off the $449 price, correct?

Posted by: bikemanj7

it is an orange phone only.

Posted by: BeatenSoul

I'm really on the fence about this device or the BlackBerry 8700c. I wouldn't be getting either till sometime in the new year, but I'm just unsure.

Posted by: gps

Quote:

Originally Posted by BeatenSoul

I'm really on the fence about this device or the BlackBerry 8700c. I wouldn't be getting either till sometime in the new year, but I'm just unsure.

8125...hands down!!

Posted by: annapink15

Hi not to see dumb or anything but what is edge exactly? thanks in advance

Posted by: smcassara

EDGE

Enhanced Data for Global Evolution.

An upgrade for GSM/GPRS networks that triples data rates (speed) over standard GPRS.

EDGE is used automatically when both the phone and network support it. EDGE phones will automatically revert to the slower GPRS standard when EDGE service is not available.

Although many EDGE phones and devices are theoretically capable of up to 236 Kbps, most EDGE networks are only configured to allow up to 135 Kbps, to conserve spectrum resources. Real-world data rates are usually lower than the maximum.

Because it is based on existing GSM technology, EDGE is a smooth upgrade for GSM network operators. It also works within existing spectrum, making it ideal for countries without dedicated 3G spectrum, such as the US.

Although EDGE works at a low level within the GSM standard that includes voice, the main benefit is to increase GPRS data rates. GPRS operating over EDGE is called EGPRS.

**completely ripped from phonescoop.com

Posted by: leporaj

Quote:

Originally Posted by Windogg

Stupid question, can I use a FAN account to buy this phone with without a contract? Will the business rep even sell me an "orange" phone from a "blue" program?

If the answer is yes, I guess it means I can pick up this phone for 50% off the $449 price, correct?

Generally we do not get our FAN discount on PDA devices...at least my 45% off does not apply to such phones as the Palm 650 / HP......

However...the people in my local store are amazed at the rate i change cell phones...and the rate i get off (seeing they only get 30% off new equip...but of corse they get other perks..)...so maybe if i'm lucky...they'll just do as they always do and add the 45% off without checking anything

Posted by: Omega2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by dgriner

Could this be done on a HTC Wizard (Qtek 9100) as well? I would love to know when EDGE was available or being used.

Thanks!

Yes it can be. There is a post or two about it in the PPC forum.

Posted by: suavebaby

Cingular 8125 for $99 Bucks after rebates

http://www.mobiletechreview.com/ubb...ws&Number=22021

Posted by: blueshockeynut

Quote:

Originally Posted by Windogg

I can tell you how our FAN account works, and since you are on the East Coast, I dont really know how they are running the accounts out there, but here in Chicago, because of the amount of buisness we do with Cingular, on any of the major devices like the HP6500, the Treo 650 and the Blackberry's we get about 15% - 30% off the devices, i.e. in this case a Treo 650 costs $499.99, we get it at $399.99, of course the prices drops more for specfic types of activations, another example is that we can get a LG7200 or a D357 PTT phone and we can get the second one free, which is a pretty good deal, granted that is just the premier account scenario, when I go directly thru my sales contact we can usually get them alot cheaper.

And yes, this is a Orange phone with a 64K SIM chip.

JB

Posted by: smithtec

Regarding other HTC Wizard devices, will the 8125 do anything that the others dont? I have been through all the posts and I still dont have a clear understanding of the differences between me spending a little more and getting a qtek or waiting for Cing. Anyone?

Posted by: blueshockeynut

Quote:

Originally Posted by BeatenSoul

I'm really on the fence about this device or the BlackBerry 8700c. I wouldn't be getting either till sometime in the new year, but I'm just unsure.

Just to let you know we have an 8700C here that we are testing, the wife is using it as well since her office is a Blackberry world, which probably wont be mouch longer depending on what happens with the NTP/RIM issue.

I will say the 8125 hands down right now, it probably doesnt help that I am not much of a Blackberry fan either.

JB

Posted by: blueshockeynut

Quote:

Originally Posted by smithtec

Regarding other HTC Wizard devices, will the 8125 do anything that the others dont? I have been through all the posts and I still dont have a clear understanding of the differences between me spending a little more and getting a qtek or waiting for Cing. Anyone?

Which Qtek would you be comparing 8125 too?

JB

Posted by: smithtec

say the 9100? or the imate kjam for that matter....

Posted by: blueshockeynut

Quote:

Originally Posted by smithtec

say the 9100?

Ok, from what I can tell from the information that I have read on the 9100, it is literally the same device as the 8125, with a few exceptions, the coexist WiFi 802.11b/g possibly. From the looks of everything it is literally the same processor, RAM/ROM, camera, everything, unless I am missing something of course which is possible, granted it is designed alittle bit differantly.

Honestly, it is all up to you, spend more money on literally the same device or have a little patience to wait and see the 8125, up to you.

Also if I missed something in the comparisons of the 2 devices, please let me know.

JB

Posted by: blueshockeynut

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Originally Posted by smithtec

say the 9100? or the imate kjam for that matter....

Honestly, I think the I-Mate is way overpriced.

JB

Posted by: smithtec

I agree about both of them are over priced. When you mention "the coexist WiFi 802.11b/g possibly". Do we know which one the 8125 does?

Posted by: high_tek

Has anybody seen this website offering the 8125 for $99.
http://www.benefitdiscount.com/nextjump/

Posted by: smithtec

Have you used them before? Thats the only site offering them that I have seen thus far.

Posted by: blueshockeynut

The WiFi is 802.11B

Posted by: high_tek

Here is a transcript from my conversation with the online chat support guy Frank from benifitdiscount :

kurt:
Interested in the 8125 from cingular. Is this phone available and how long for shipping
Welcome kurt! Your request has been directed to the Customer Service department. Please wait for our operator to answer your call.
Call accepted by operator Frank. Currently in room: kurt, Frank.
Frank:
I will check to see if that model is available
kurt:
ok thank you, I saw it on the phone listing page for $99 after rebate but I wanted to be sure before ordeing
Frank:
I do not see that model number on our list. What site did you see it on?
kurt:
http://www.benefitdiscount.com/nextjump/ then click on view cingular phones and it is on the list
kurt:
9th phone from bottom
Frank:
That phone is only available at the retail stores at this time. Cingular had planned on rolling that out this month but things have been delayed. We should be able to offer this phone directly through us shortly
kurt:
I have not found it in the retail stores either do you know what retail stores in my area are supposed to have it?
Frank:
The Cingular rep said that they should have them at all Cingular retail stores by now. You may want to call your local Cingular store and ask if they have them or when they are expecting them. Right now we do not have an ETA from Cingular on when we the dealers will be able to submit orders for that model phone
kurt:
Really .. ok cause I just went to my local store and they didn't have them .. could I order this directly from cingular then.
Frank:
You may be able to. I'd like to get your number so that i can call my Cingular reps and see if there is any way I can order this for you. What is a good number that I can call you at?
kurt:
954-xxx-xxxx
Frank:
I will will call you as soon as I get a resolution from Cingular. Thanks for you patience

and there you have it as I sit and wait for any good word

Posted by: RulinSmoove

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Originally Posted by high_tek

Has anybody seen this website offering the 8125 for $99.
http://www.benefitdiscount.com/nextjump/

I just checked that out. That's interesting, I wonder if there are any strings attached...

Posted by: fowen

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Originally Posted by q1001001

Can someone provide a link or tell how to access

"Equipment Lineup" "Coming Soon" area

This is only available to Cingular Employee's. My B2B rep emailed me with the info because he knows I am waiting on this device.

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Originally Posted by Windogg

From what my rep has told me no. If you do not have a Orange line of service you are not able to purchase a Orange only phone through B2B even at full Contract price.

Most Equipment discounts are only available to Phones and not PDA/Data Devices. Not only that but in order to get your discount from how I understand it you need to get a contract extension.

Posted by: hesh

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Originally Posted by RulinSmoove

I just checked that out. That's interesting, I wonder if there are any strings attached...

I would like to know how they can offer it before Cingular does. Or are they basically just taking orders and will ship it when it's officially released?

Posted by: smithtec

sounds like he has old data.... like one of the older release dates. You can be sure that if it was in the retail channal, someone here would know about it.

Posted by: RulinSmoove

high_tek, i just did the same thing as you, annie the customer rep said it was to be released in jan :*(

Posted by: RulinSmoove

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Originally Posted by hesh

I would like to know how they can offer it before Cingular does. Or are they basically just taking orders and will ship it when it's officially released?

It's just a promotion. They have it on the site now so people will notice it and remember the low price on their site. Once it does get released, they will begin selling them on their site.

Posted by: high_tek

I can never get anyone at cingular who knows anything about this phone ... it's like everybody except cingular knows about it

Posted by: loki28

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Originally Posted by high_tek

I can never get anyone at cingular who knows anything about this phone ... it's like everybody except cingular knows about it

I agree with this. when I called and talked to someone they did not know anything about it. They checked with their manager and they said to go to phonescoop.com to read about it!

Another thing, do you think that they are going to list 2 different prices for the 8125? The 2125 is listed for MORE on the B2B site than the regular site. And will the 8100 be available at the same time?

I wish we knew!

Posted by: bikemanj7

it listed more on the B2B site becuase it shows the price without the mail in rebate where as the regular site shows price after the mail in rebate.

Posted by: fowen

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Originally Posted by bikemanj7

it listed more on the B2B site becuase it shows the price without the mail in rebate where as the regular site shows price after the mail in rebate.

This is not true. The business site shows the non contracted price at $679.00 and the Cingular site shows it at $399.00. This is before rebates.

Now lets try (not going to happen) keep this thread on Topic.

Posted by: dday64

http://www.mobile-review.com/pda/review/htc-wizard-en.shtml on the HTC Wizard platform for those of you who are like me and have just found out about the 8125 yesterday.

I can't wait for this phone personally. I have to do some more reading about the Windows Mobile 5.0 Phone platform, but I think it should be pretty good.

I'm buying this as soon as I can after release.

Posted by: dday64

And as far as I can tell the 8125 is 802.11G, not b. I don't know where that idea started coming from. And it supports Bluetooth 2.0.

Posted by: ats

I finally broke down yesterday and bought the 6700. I actually got tired of waiting for cingular and more importantly calling them everyday to hear the same things: 1. Never heard of it and 2. Cingular doesn't make phones, is this a nokia or a motorola.

I really like the device and you cannot beat the $25 data service. I am not saying one device is better than the other or that sprint is better than cingular. At this point I could care less. Sprint had the phone and cingular did not. Instead of providing their customers with information, Cingular chose to keep everyone in the dark, including their employees.

Posted by: holdenmichael

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Originally Posted by bikemanj7

it listed more on the B2B site becuase it shows the price without the mail in rebate where as the regular site shows price after the mail in rebate.

So, we're still able to use the rebate if we order a phone off of the Premier site?

Posted by: blueshockeynut

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Originally Posted by dday64

And as far as I can tell the 8125 is 802.11G, not b. I don't know where that idea started coming from. And it supports Bluetooth 2.0.

Actually it is B and G, just did a double check on an internet connection.

JB

Posted by: zachavm

Since G is backward compatible with B, and since the wizard will probably never be fast enough to reach G speeds, it really doesn't matter if it has g hardware or not. You will still get about the same speeds. There may be other advantages to g that I'm not aware of, but that is the impression I am under.

Zach

Posted by: dday64

Yea, I just called one of the Cingular stores around here and they have never heard of the phone. I'm pretty sure they think I was crazy.

Posted by: loki28

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Originally Posted by dday64

Yea, I just called one of the Cingular stores around here and they have never heard of the phone. I'm pretty sure they think I was crazy.

This is very frustrating.

Posted by: ps_benj

Most cingular store reps are there to punch in, work the shift and punch out... If you find a (store) rep who is plugged in and knows the products (both inside and outside the store) do yourself a favor and get his business card. It will come in handy later on.

Posted by: shezwhitey

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Originally Posted by zachavm

Since G is backward compatible with B, and since the wizard will probably never be fast enough to reach G speeds, it really doesn't matter if it has g hardware or not. You will still get about the same speeds. There may be other advantages to g that I'm not aware of, but that is the impression I am under.

Zach

Correct, 802.11G provides backward compatibility with 802.11B. And yes the wizard and basically any handheld cannot push G speeds. However, in a 802.11G environment if a 802.11B device connects to an AP, that AP has to drop down to 802.11G protection mode which is usally around 15Mbps. Most corp installs are moving away from B and to a 802.11G only environment. That way they can keep speeds up.

shez

Posted by: smcassara

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Originally Posted by high_tek

I can never get anyone at cingular who knows anything about this phone ... it's like everybody except cingular knows about it

well, cingular really hasn't told us anything about either phone.. 2125/8125. there's nothing on CSP and there's be no talk of them in our data calls.

Posted by: grinny11

i just spoke with a guy named rick from benefitdiscount.com and said to get that additional $200 rebate it has to be new service and upgrades don't count. Without that rebate the price of the phone is $299. i then asked about the date he said "they will be here the 20th ish

you know how the carriers can be, they have told us the 20th" he then said shipping will take about 3-5 days. don't know if i should wait or what.

Posted by: substring

I saw the 2125 being available on the Cingular site...
http://onlinestorez.cingular.com/ce...requestid=39498

I am hoping the 8125 will follow soon as that is the one I want.

Posted by: butzchan

I can't imagine that Cingular would make the 8125 available to a third party like benefitdiscount.com, and not available for non B2B customers. If what benefitdiscount.com says is true, looks like this will be available for everyone around the 20th..???

Posted by: pcman

that website isn't even coming up all it says is benefitdiscount nothing else on the page ??

Posted by: musthaveit

Great news!

I have been waiting for Verizon's xv6700, but perhaps on the 20th I may become a new cingular customer. I have always had a CDMA carrier, but with 3G going full steam in'06 this phone may be faster than any EVDO version.

I heard once 3G becomes more prevalent, the Universal may be also be released on Cingular in '06?

Posted by: grinny11

http://www.benefitdiscount.com/nextjump/

thats the link i used

Posted by: RulinSmoove

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Originally Posted by grinny11

i just spoke with a guy named rick from benefitdiscount.com and said to get that additional $200 rebate it has to be new service and upgrades don't count. Without that rebate th