COR December Commision Changes

Originally Posted by ieregional

ok, I'll try and be as tactful as I can....Get over yourselves you conceited, overpaid COR reps. Ever think why AT&T isn't around anymore???? Frivilous spending and mismanagement of funds. You are an atwill employee. If you don't like how you are paid then I guess it's time to jump ship. One thing I can tell you is that if you have been in wireless for more than a year than you'd understand that you have to adapt to change quickly. It's not going to stop. True sales reps and I mean those both at COR and Agent locations who truely understand what sales is all about will be the ones succeeding when you are gone. If they change how you get paid then you change how you sell. If you're not sure how to sell than it's time to get a new job maybe at Chuck-e-cheese where you aren't expected to do any upselling. (and yes it is from exprience).If you'd focus more on the ways you can make your money and be positive about the change than maybe you'd sell more. Buy I digress...... Point is Cingular is here to make money. If Cingular can produce the same results by paying less out then it's a good financial decision on their part. Popular no, but a good one none the less. Sales isn't supposed to be easy. If it was then they'd just pay us min. wage and leave it at that.Don't kill our company with negativity. Help us grow by being positive. You'll become a better leader for it.

Originally Posted by ieregional

ok, I'll try and be as tactful as I can....Get over yourselves you conceited, overpaid COR reps. Ever think why AT&T isn't around anymore???? Frivilous spending and mismanagement of funds. You are an atwill employee. If you don't like how you are paid then I guess it's time to jump ship. One thing I can tell you is that if you have been in wireless for more than a year than you'd understand that you have to adapt to change quickly. It's not going to stop. True sales reps and I mean those both at COR and Agent locations who truely understand what sales is all about will be the ones succeeding when you are gone. If they change how you get paid then you change how you sell. If you're not sure how to sell than it's time to get a new job maybe at Chuck-e-cheese where you aren't expected to do any upselling. (and yes it is from exprience).If you'd focus more on the ways you can make your money and be positive about the change than maybe you'd sell more. Buy I digress...... Point is Cingular is here to make money. If Cingular can produce the same results by paying less out then it's a good financial decision on their part. Popular no, but a good one none the less. Sales isn't supposed to be easy. If it was then they'd just pay us min. wage and leave it at that.Don't kill our company with negativity. Help us grow by being positive. You'll become a better leader for it.

Originally Posted by ieregional

Look, you can deal with it or you can get the edited. You're not a prisoner of retail, you can be on your merry way. When you are at the head of a company you can make the decisions like Stan, but until then I suggest you wise up. If you're freaking out so much about a comission change then you need to learn how to maximize your sales.

Look, i'm from a Premier retailer and am subject to the same rules and comission changes. Recently we got our FT ads knocked from 15 each to $2. Yes it sucks and we all were pissed, however, when we all took a better look at how the comision changed we understood that we would have to double up on our vertical sales and upgrades. End of the month and activations are way down, but hmmm, funny comissions are the same as they were last month for our reps. we just learned to make due.

A Drone I am not. Brainwashed, hardly. However, I did not become a regional manager by wiggin out everytime there was a change nor did I have to subject myself to kneeling down and becoming a yes man. You've got to take the bad with the good. Look at our coverage.... It's got to be bad before it can get god.

Originally Posted by ieregional

ok, I'll try and be as tactful as I can....Get over yourselves you conceited, overpaid COR reps. Ever think why AT&T isn't around anymore???? Frivilous spending and mismanagement of funds. You are an atwill employee. If you don't like how you are paid then I guess it's time to jump ship. One thing I can tell you is that if you have been in wireless for more than a year than you'd understand that you have to adapt to change quickly. It's not going to stop. True sales reps and I mean those both at COR and Agent locations who truely understand what sales is all about will be the ones succeeding when you are gone. If they change how you get paid then you change how you sell. If you're not sure how to sell than it's time to get a new job maybe at Chuck-e-cheese where you aren't expected to do any upselling. (and yes it is from exprience).If you'd focus more on the ways you can make your money and be positive about the change than maybe you'd sell more. Buy I digress...... Point is Cingular is here to make money. If Cingular can produce the same results by paying less out then it's a good financial decision on their part. Popular no, but a good one none the less. Sales isn't supposed to be easy. If it was then they'd just pay us min. wage and leave it at that.Don't kill our company with negativity. Help us grow by being positive. You'll become a better leader for it.

Originally Posted by ieregional

Look, you can deal with it or you can get the edited out. You're not a prisoner of retail, you can be on your merry way. When you are at the head of a company you can make the decisions like Stan, but until then I suggest you wise up. If you're freaking out so much about a comission change then you need to learn how to maximize your sales.

Look, i'm from a Premier retailer and am subject to the same rules and comission changes. Recently we got our FT ads knocked from 15 each to $2. Yes it sucks and we all were pissed, however, when we all took a better look at how the comision changed we understood that we would have to double up on our vertical sales and upgrades. End of the month and activations are way down, but hmmm, funny comissions are the same as they were last month for our reps. we just learned to make due.

A Drone I am not. Brainwashed, hardly. However, I did not become a regional manager by wiggin out everytime there was a change nor did I have to subject myself to kneeling down and becoming a yes man. You've got to take the bad with the good. Look at our coverage.... It's got to be bad before it can get god.

Originally Posted by ieregional

ok, I'll try and be as tactful as I can....Get over yourselves you conceited, overpaid COR reps. Ever think why AT&T isn't around anymore???? Frivilous spending and mismanagement of funds. You are an atwill employee. If you don't like how you are paid then I guess it's time to jump ship. One thing I can tell you is that if you have been in wireless for more than a year than you'd understand that you have to adapt to change quickly. It's not going to stop. True sales reps and I mean those both at COR and Agent locations who truely understand what sales is all about will be the ones succeeding when you are gone. If they change how you get paid then you change how you sell. If you're not sure how to sell than it's time to get a new job maybe at Chuck-e-cheese where you aren't expected to do any upselling. (and yes it is from exprience).If you'd focus more on the ways you can make your money and be positive about the change than maybe you'd sell more. Buy I digress...... Point is Cingular is here to make money. If Cingular can produce the same results by paying less out then it's a good financial decision on their part. Popular no, but a good one none the less. Sales isn't supposed to be easy. If it was then they'd just pay us min. wage and leave it at that.Don't kill our company with negativity. Help us grow by being positive. You'll become a better leader for it.

Originally Posted by rabisdogis

This is a perfect example of what management has become. I for one have been with the company for over a year (going on 2) and have put up with the drops in commission. Yeah, it does piss me off and yeah...I do end up working harder. But I have never heard of a company the pays less each year that your with them. I am and always have been the top selling rep in each store that I've worked. My commissions have gone from the mid 3K range to about a grand. Your eyes are clouded by your ego...I realize that Cingular is here to make money but in the process, their losing all of reps that are actually knowledgeable and gaining high school drop outs who are willing to work for minimum wage. As much as I hate Sprint, I am more than willing to work for them just to double my pay. Oh and by the way...I wrote this as tactful as humanly possible with a positive smile on my face. I am tired of this allover cr@p and especially tired of being bent over. Good luck in your position.

Originally Posted by ieregional

Look, you can deal with it or you can get the edited out. You're not a prisoner of retail, you can be on your merry way. When you are at the head of a company you can make the decisions like Stan, but until then I suggest you wise up. If you're freaking out so much about a comission change then you need to learn how to maximize your sales.

Look, i'm from a Premier retailer and am subject to the same rules and comission changes. Recently we got our FT ads knocked from 15 each to $2. Yes it sucks and we all were pissed, however, when we all took a better look at how the comision changed we understood that we would have to double up on our vertical sales and upgrades. End of the month and activations are way down, but hmmm, funny comissions are the same as they were last month for our reps. we just learned to make due.

A Drone I am not. Brainwashed, hardly. However, I did not become a regional manager by wiggin out everytime there was a change nor did I have to subject myself to kneeling down and becoming a yes man. You've got to take the bad with the good. Look at our coverage.... It's got to be bad before it can get god.

Originally Posted by ieregional

So obviously everybodies got their own opinions on the matter. Once again, I don't have a fat salary like COR managers. I get paid based upon my teams performance. So yes it is in my best interest to nuture and support my team. So I understand your frustration. However, it is my job as a leader in our company to play the cards as they are dealt. Every time Cingular changes how they pay indirect agents, the owner of our franchise comes to me and tells me what changes will be made. It is then my job to focus on the opportunity that is there and to relay it to my teams. No matter how unpopular the changes may be I have no say. And yes, my overrides are severely cut as well. My name is not Stan Sigman and I don't have stock options. I have 3 kids a house and 2 cars so it affects us all.

Cingular has a long way to go and it did seem like they were on the right track before the bought AT&T. Cingular and Stan are all about the bottom line, $$$$$. We're just lucky that Cingular isn't a publicly traded company. The cuts would be a lot worse if we were.

Originally Posted by ieregional

Look, you can deal with it or you can get the edited out. You're not a prisoner of retail, you can be on your merry way. When you are at the head of a company you can make the decisions like Stan, but until then I suggest you wise up. If you're freaking out so much about a comission change then you need to learn how to maximize your sales.

Look, i'm from a Premier retailer and am subject to the same rules and comission changes. Recently we got our FT ads knocked from 15 each to $2. Yes it sucks and we all were pissed, however, when we all took a better look at how the comision changed we understood that we would have to double up on our vertical sales and upgrades. End of the month and activations are way down, but hmmm, funny comissions are the same as they were last month for our reps. we just learned to make due.

A Drone I am not. Brainwashed, hardly. However, I did not become a regional manager by wiggin out everytime there was a change nor did I have to subject myself to kneeling down and becoming a yes man. You've got to take the bad with the good. Look at our coverage.... It's got to be bad before it can get god.