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Thank You Cingular!!!!!
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Posted by: EvilTwentyOne

I would like to thank Cingular for finally firing my ***. I used to love going to work everyday, I used to put in 10....12 hour days, often because I wanted too, I used to work on my days off again because I wanted too. God life was good my co-workers, managers, and I got along from day one, we became a family, we would help each other any way that we could, if some one fell short on the rent or mortgage for some reason the team maid the payment that month, thats how tight we had become. I never met a better group of people in the 34 years I have been alive. But when the MERGE happened and all the secret shop ******** and the many many many other off the wall changes and demands Cingular has imposed on its reps I began to hate going to work everyday, would never stay more than my 8, forget about working on my day off. The only reason I couldn't quit was my family I loved them to much to leave them, but after several months of not making quota, not going to the BS mandatory meatings, refusing to participate in the unreliable and unfair secret shops, being late every day and extended lunch hours they let me go. I have to say other than not seeing my family everyday, I have been so damm happy and talk about relaxed its been great. Most of my co-workers including my manager have left cingular as well the two remaining reps plan to do the same shortly. Thats why I say thank you Cingular for doing what I should have but couldn't do and send me on my way, I have NEVER in my life worked for a company as ****ed up as the one you have become and continue to get worse. I wouldn't even tell my worst enemies to work for Cingular. Sooooooooooooooo Long, kiss my ***, Good bye.

Posted by: iav122003

Wow.
That's how I feel about TS.

Posted by: Rcadden

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Originally Posted by EvilTwentyOne

but after several months of not making quota, not going to the BS mandatory meatings, refusing to participate in the unreliable and unfair secret shops, being late every day and extended lunch hours they let me go.

From the sound of it, I'm sure they were glad to see you go, as well.

Posted by: hury up n wait

too bad you're a gutless coward. that didnt have the nuts to just quit.

maybe if you would've tried a lil harder u might have enjoyed it more. u said u "couldnt" quit b/c of ur " family" i know how u feel there but how do u think they felt about covering ur a** all the time im sure they didnt care for it to much if ur scheduled to be at work and ur not or on "an extended lunch break" who is that hurting not u youre not there no its the people that are there i get so sik oh this kinda thing it never fails no matter what industry u work in there will always be slackers that hate there job but cant just nut up and quit and the only people that get hurt by this are the people that do their job rite the ones that have to cover shifts b/c a coworker couldnt wouldnr didnt come in which forces them to miss out on the important things in life like spending time with my kids

to everyone but the TS sorry bout the rant im dealing with the same issues from some of my coworkers

Posted by: EvilTwentyOne

Actually you couldn't be more wrong, we talked about it and they didn't mind at all if there was a day that I had to be there then I was, and as far as try harder in the very begining I did but Cingular being the greedy SOB company that it is kept wanting more and more and more and more and more but gave back little or nothing in return. I am glad I didn't quit, that would make life to easy for them, it was a long time consuming process for human resources to actually fire me GOOD but they haven't even come close to the amount of my time they wasted, They will soon, when they hear from my lawyer.

Posted by: ivwshane

I wish I could have been fired, then I could collect unemployment, which I hope you are doing.

Posted by: audiovoxx

well actually i feel exactly this way and i think many people feel exactly the same way i dont know what changed i just know cingular changed everything managers started being more strict policies changed..... it just stoped being a fun job.. they try to make it sound like a really great paying job how can it be when you get paid less and less every time... more stuff to do less pay

so i think in no time cingular will be just like a mcdonalds... no real sales people will stand up much longer for this

Posted by: DaleJr#8

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Originally Posted by ivwshane

I wish I could have been fired, then I could collect unemployment, which I hope you are doing.

getting fired doesnt always mean that you'll qualify for unemployment. especially if your termination was your fault.

trust me, I use to manage an automotive service center and one of my many duties was to hire and fire people as needed. I was also responsible for keeping my "notes" on each and every employee if/when he or she screwed up and did something terribly wrong. I had to do that just in case that person was to get fired, he or she couldnt collect unemployment because that would be the time to where I would whip out my notes on his or record and 99% of the time their request for unemployment would be denied.

Posted by: ivwshane

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Originally Posted by DaleJr#8

True but in his case it would be more than likely.

Posted by: hahnyc87

can we delete this and ban him

Posted by: ivwshane

Why?

Some people handled this merger differently I don't think he should be banned because he was fired.

Posted by: hahnyc87

because he is complaining that a company fired him becuase he is a horrible associate

Posted by: CA

How are you going to ban him for something at work? This is HoFo not Cingular.

Posted by: hahnyc87

just for stupidity

Posted by: CA

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Originally Posted by hahnyc87

just for stupidity

Posted by: ivwshane

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Originally Posted by hahnyc87

because he is complaining that a company fired him becuase he is a horrible associate

Maybe I miss read it but I didn't get the feeling he was complaining but more of a feeling of relief.

Now if he is complaining then I see your point.

Posted by: CA

He is just frustrated.

Posted by: strickzilla

yeah but we had a guy liek him at my store... complain about being at teh sat meetings and hed walk in 15 min late to those take extended lunches complain about this that or teh other...and i WAS glad to see him go he was a nice guy but the worst co-worker ive ever worked with.

people like that need to realize if they moan and whine all it does is

A piss people off and
B make others not want to work...

it spurns a well if he aint gonna do it why sould i?

Posted by: ivwshane

I had someone like that on our team, he was a friend and we just delt with it and just encouraged him to find outer career oppertunities.

Posted by: Freakshow105

Well even though you liked to screw over your co workers by not coming to work on time taking extended lunches, thanks a lot! I have people like that in my store...it sucks, it helps BRING DOWN the store morale. I am glad you got fired. It is pretty hard to get fired there unless u can't hit quota.

Posted by: Freakshow105

or unless you were the idiot who leaked the umts maps lol

Posted by: iav122003

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Originally Posted by MrDJ

or unless you were the idiot who leaked the umts maps lol

That'd do it

Posted by: EvilTwentyOne

First of all like I mentioned earlier my team had no problems or hang ups with anything I was or wasn't doing I discussed it with all of them, Anyway the general attitude in the store was becoming the same as mine. Not because of me because of Cingular, It's not "if he aint gonna why should I" Its IF THEY(Cingular) AINT GONNA WHY SHOULD WE" if your gonna point the finger, point it in the right direction.

Posted by: hury up n wait

it still sounds like ur blaming cing for ur lackluster work ethic we work in a commision based industry the harder u work the more u make ne 8yr old can tell u that i have friends that i hated working with b/c they would bum everyone out its depressing and u cant get unemployment for getting fired u dont qualify u we're fired for insubordination ( failure to do ur job prpoerly) ur just another moron trying to feed off the system

Posted by: cowboys93

All points are taken. I belive the original poster is just venting, thus maybe it belongs in the Provider Rant section?

I especially agree with the feeling of not quiting because you have a family to support. However, I surely hope this person started looking for another job before they were fired. And no matter how bad a job is, you should TRY to leave on good terms.

What is really funny in my experience, some employers just don't know how to treat people. Current and past staff included. This is based on personal experience.

I was laid off from work (told lack of work/assignments). I received my final paycheck 1 weel after being let go. No biggie, as this was pay day. In Ca, I should have received it on my last day. The employer claimed they had 72 hours to pay me despite reference to the CA Employment Code. they still took their time to pay. I accumulated vacation pay, for which I did not get paid, as the employer claimed that I had not earned yet, although I worked there for over 4 months.

This same employer "Still" did not provide benefit COBRA data 2 month after my release (illegal) as it was due immediately.

Promised to provide a reference (I have this in writing), but has changed mind and won't return phone calls.

As far as unemployment goes, I applied, but they lied about my reason for termination. I responded, and I am waiting on my appeal hearing. Unemployment would only replace 30% of what I was earning. Fortunately, I gained employment within 3 weeks and back on track.

Most companies will pay even BAD employees some amount of severance pay (days or weeks of pay) and get you to sign a waiver on the way out, and allow you to collect unemployment. This is normally done to keep the released employee "civil" towards the company and employees. Note, I am not saying this is required!!

That said, I believe the OP should have started looking for new employment and not wait to get fired because unemployment is only meant as a temporary fix anyway.

Employers can and will "bend" the rules so their premiums won't get increased for unemployment claims.

If you were really stressed out, try getting your doctor to put you on disability for stress. The employee (worker) pays the SDI premium. It's just a matter of getting your doctor to put you off work for more than 2 weeks.

Also, if you have a sick child or spouse, or newborn, many states will allow you to take Paid FMLA for 6 weeks during the first 12 months to "bond".

I wish you and your family well.

Let us know how it goes!

Employers who dispute unemployment for workers let go without cause suck!

Posted by: theclarks1

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Originally Posted by ivwshane

I wish I could have been fired, then I could collect unemployment, which I hope you are doing.

If he was fired for not being on time and things of that nature, It would be considered more of a insobordination. I dont think that he would qualify for unemployment.

Posted by: cowboys93

In CA,

You could get fired for cause and have your employer dispute your claim.

After working and earning "x" times your weekly benefit, you will qualify for it REGARDLESS for the maximum 1 year period.

Example:

I was denied, and appealed. Pending my appeal, I still had to certify hours everyweek. I obtained a position and earned enough in 8 days to meet the above requirement. When the assignment ended on day 9, I re-filed. From that point forward (until next position) I was eligible.

Fortunately, I secured a f-t position in the midst of all of this.

Posted by: theclarks1

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Originally Posted by cowboys93

In CA,

You could get fired for cause and have your employer dispute your claim.

After working and earning "x" times your weekly benefit, you will qualify for it REGARDLESS for the maximum 1 year period.

Example:

I was denied, and appealed. Pending my appeal, I still had to certify hours everyweek. I obtained a position and earned enough in 8 days to meet the above requirement. When the assignment ended on day 9, I re-filed. From that point forward (until next position) I was eligible.

Fortunately, I secured a f-t position in the midst of all of this.

What really bothers me today is about the work ethic that some of us have. I know that jobs at times get frustrating, I too am in the wireless industry so I do know the concearns. There again, you have a job description to fill if that is not accomplished accordingly then you should be let go, and if there is reason to believe that it was done purposely then you should be entitled to no benefits. It wasnt the employers fault that you decided you didnt want to do the job anymore like you stated when you were hired(and by the way job descriptions can change) or that you didnt want to make the best of things. Believe me right now I choose to work(I could be off collecting a check) but I choose that for as long as I can I will there is just something about staying at home and not being able to provide for the family that makes me feel like less of a man, but thats just me. I have a disability that I live with everyday and just to be able to get out and do something is an accomplishment for me. I thank GOD that I am not in a wheelchair from what happend. Every day that I can work and walk around and do my job is a blessing. Anytime that I can I let people know this, not becuase I want to be praised or have pity on but for the fact that I can get out and work and see daylight and talk with other people and spend time with my family.This is how the country was founded. You work you eat, you dont you shouldnt be able to live off what I pay in taxes. Again Im just stating things that I believe, maybe something that I say will help someone to be encouraged im not trying to push my beliefs on anyone else or offend anyone. Everyday that God wakes me up I feel that is a blessing.

Posted by: cowboys93

I am not the OP, but I agree with most of the points made. And yes I also prefer to work as oppossed to collecting unemployment.

And for the record in most states, UI is paid for by the employer, not taxpayers. SDI premiums are paid by the employee/worker. This is why SDI pays more, plus is non-taxable.

Both are based upon your earning over a 12-24 month period and the premiums paid. Imagine working 20, 30 , 40 years and NEVER using Disability? You realize how much money that is!

That said, I applaud those who work no matter what the circumstances and choose to go to work one, two or more jobs to support their homes. In my case, I was let go for no cause (my paperwork says so). Most employment is at wil, although my former employer did not include this wording in my offer letter.

That said, I have landed a better job, and thank GOD I can support my family. I am fighting a cold as we speak, but since I work alone, I go to work everyday and will continue to do so as long as I can walk, talk, and breath!!

Posted by: theclarks1

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Originally Posted by cowboys93

I am not the OP, but I agree with most of the points made. And yes I also prefer to work as oppossed to collecting unemployment.

And for the record in most states, UI is paid for by the employer, not taxpayers. SDI premiums are paid by the employee/worker. This is why SDI pays more, plus is non-taxable.

Both are based upon your earning over a 12-24 month period and the premiums paid. Imagine working 20, 30 , 40 years and NEVER using Disability? You realize how much money that is!

That said, I applaud those who work no matter what the circumstances and choose to go to work one, two or more jobs to support their homes. In my case, I was let go for no cause (my paperwork says so). Most employment is at wil, although my former employer did not include this wording in my offer letter.

That said, I have landed a better job, and thank GOD I can support my family. I am fighting a cold as we speak, but since I work alone, I go to work everyday and will continue to do so as long as I can walk, talk, and breath!!

I agree with that but what I was speaking of is, think of how many families that have people that get fired or what not then have no source of income because of a silly issue, they they file for food stamps(which I have nothing against anyone who needs this kind of assistance) and other welfare programs that if you would have just stuck it out we wouldnt have to be supporting you now. But either way thats kind of what I meant in a round about way.

Posted by: ivwshane

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Originally Posted by theclarks1

Maybe but that has nothing to do with this thread. He's not collecting welfare, it's unemployment which is completely different.

Posted by: theclarks1

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Originally Posted by ivwshane

Maybe but that has nothing to do with this thread. He's not collecting welfare, it's unemployment which is completely different.

Thats not what I meant. If he is denied unemployment then at that point he would qualify for state assistance, so in a roundabout way it does apply to this thread. and Yes I do understand that they are 2 diffrent things.

Posted by: EvilTwentyOne

Thats the way it used to be, not any more they demand more and more while the commision becomes less and less. As far as work ethics hey I was a damm good rep. I made presidents club four years in a row, always with in the top three reps of my store and top ten in the district, worked on my days off, showed up early and went home late and I often worked with out taking a luch, I had so many awards for great customer service, having over 100 actos in a month, highest feature percentages, presidents club and so on. slowly all that went away the more they demanded and the less they gave in return the less they got from me. I didn't have to look for a new job I already had one I turned what I was doing part into a full time position and went to work for myself designing and building custom ponds. Currently I am working on a 2500 gallon koi pond with two water falls a bridge and an $11,854 dollar price tag to start off. Anyways back to the subject Cingular got the employee it created,by giving **** they got ****.