New Commission Starting Jan 1 '06

Originally Posted by rabisdogis

Well....this is straight from Mike Maxwell's (Pacific Northwest Vice President General Manager) mouth. He basically said that this is what will take place and better things are to come. If these things do come to pass, we'll hopefully be on our way back to the old days. It'll be nice but it won't happen before X-mas!

Originally Posted by tendura

I'll get happy when I get it in writing. I'm too tired and too poor to get my hopes up. But, any more money is good money.

Originally Posted by rabisdogis

Supposedly Cingular will be uping the commission payout from $850 to $1100 on the 1st. There will be many other changes from what I've been told. Eventually, we will be getting paid the same on upgrades as we are on new activations. Share the news if you have heard anything different. Thanks guys.

Originally Posted by Lambert

What do you mean upping it from 850 to 1100? isnt commision payout based on what you sell?

Originally Posted by aaadock

edited my own post... too much info on payouts on a public forum..

Originally Posted by Alfred_Neuman

i stopped caring about the money factor.

i use the store to study for my mcse/ccna nowadays.

Originally Posted by bobolito

hehe....I did my MCSE 6 years ago and almost finished the CCNA. I can't believe it's been that long.

Originally Posted by ivwshane

What was it for at&t? $1500

Originally Posted by Alfred_Neuman

honestly theres too too much blue influence in cingular.

way too much.

Originally Posted by rabisdogis

At&t was $1200! Thats why Cingular gave the blue employees true-up. Blue employees are given an extra $350 per month (on top of the $850) until Jan 1st. Then everyone should go from $850 (Orange) and $1200 (Blue) to $1100. We'll see what happens in Jan. As for me, I don't want to wait anymore...I just put my notice in. My last day is on the 31st. Good luck with your commissions!

Originally Posted by Lambert

"Blue employees are given an extra $350 per month (on top of the $850)"..

So employees are paid this much per month no matter what? From what I read elsewhere, they expect you to earn at least $850 to meet your goal, and I also heard that the $850 is the max commision.

Originally Posted by Soopafly

You have no frame of reference what so ever. The policies taking effect now were never around with blue.

Stop blaming your issues on blue. It's big Stan and his boys.

Originally Posted by ivwshane

I've heard the $8 upgrade is staying and feature payout will now be 75%.

Originally Posted by ungratefulninja

We were just given written notice that effective January 1st, 2006 through March 31, 2006 we will get:

Contract Renewals to $8 per qualified 2 year renewal.
Feature compensation to 0.75 x MRC.

As far as the $850 thing, it was always explained to us that we had an activation goal, and an overall $850 goal. Generally if you hit one, you hit the other, but I suppose if you had a lot of add-a-lines you could hit your activation goal but not generate $850. We were told if we generated less than 70% of the $850 then it was a write-up. This was before they added rate plan mix, and before it mattered if you hit accessories or features. We didn't get boosted to $850 if we were under it, though.

They mentioned verbally that in April 2006 the whole system will get scrapped and that they may do away with Cingular Rewards Points and just give us extra money instead.

Originally Posted by rabisdogis

Plus they have the best benefits in the industry and give $8000 a year for tuition reimbursement with no strings attached

Originally Posted by thejlw

If you decide you want to go to school you should give me a call. I work for the University of Phoenix Online and we have a relationship with Verizon which allows us to bill them directly for anyone of their employees who wishes to go to school. It's a great program. If you interested I can help you out.

Originally Posted by thejlw

In reading this, Im wondering if ANYONE actually likes their sales job at Cingular???

Originally Posted by MrDJ

Well here it is the 31st and NO ONE has a clue yet how we get paid tomorrow! Well if they push it back to april do we still get trueup?

Originally Posted by MrDJ

Well here it is the 31st and NO ONE has a clue yet how we get paid tomorrow! Well if they push it back to april do we still get trueup?

Originally Posted by Soopafly

BTW: Insurance is being revamped in Feburary and we will no longer get paid any commission for insurance.

Originally Posted by Soopafly

BTW: Insurance is being revamped in Feburary and we will no longer get paid any commission for insurance.

Originally Posted by ungratefulninja

P.S. Question for the corporate people out there, did you get an extra day off the week of New Years? (3 total days off) We didn't, but I heard we were supposed to.

Originally Posted by Soopafly

Pay remains the same... other than 75% feature payout. Just confirmed that we will get $8 migrations also. Major changes will happen in April.

Word in my market is we will be keeping true-up until April, so good news for all blue NWS employees.

BTW: Insurance is being revamped in Feburary and we will no longer get paid any commission for insurance.

Originally Posted by aaadock

tx markets have always gotten paid for insurance.. i dont get paid, it dont get sold.

Originally Posted by SoCal91302

I feel for the poor souls that are unfortunate enough to get people like you for salesmen. Is that $1 really that important to you?

Originally Posted by rabisdogis

I guess what I originally said came out differently than intended. Instead of pushing something like insurance which I think is useful and would gladly pay for myself if given the chance, instead I will simply ask if the customer is interested rather than make them feel like its something they need. I don't know about you SoCal, but I dont work for free. I sell and make customers see the value in things that will make me money because that is my job. If Cingular doesn't want to pay me for a particular item, then they can watch their insurance sales drop because that item no longer makes me money. Instead, I'll focus on something else that does. This wouldn't be the first time that they stopped paying us for insurance. When we stopped making that extra dollar, we stopped selling it. When their sales dropped, they started paying us again. In the end, they suffer due to financial losses and their customers suffer because the rep that sold them the phone didn't tell them about insurance. That customer churns and tells all of their friends how much Cingular sucks. Cingular has nothing to gain by saving themselves a dollar on commission. That dollar for me SoCal, equals out to be 20 or 30 dollars at the end of the month. Thats like saying that migrations are just $8. Well, do 100 of those and tell what it equals out to. Everything adds up in the end my friend.

Originally Posted by ivwshane

I don't blame you one bit.

Your a salesman and a good chunk of your pay comes from commission, you gotta do what you gotta do to make your money and to take care of yourself because cingular isn't going to.

I'm sure you will still mention insurance but you won't be hard selling it like you would if you were being paid for it.

It's how commissioned sales work, if cingular doesn't like it or it's not good for consumers then get rid of commissions.

Originally Posted by SoCal91302

No. In fact, we were open new years eve and new years day.

Originally Posted by rabisdogis

I'm not sure about everyone else but I worked for Corp (my last day was the 31st). Is that $330 a month and if so, what is your quota? I have a friend who works for an agent in the mall, generally sales about 80 or more activations a month and easily takes home a couple of grand. His Sept check was something like $4200. Of course he did about 115 new activations but agents are generally paid completely different from Corp.

Originally Posted by rabisdogis

I start with Verizon on the 16th in WA! My girlfriend started a couple of weeks ago and she says its a night and day difference. Not just with technology but the company. Everyone seems to be on top of things. So far, she says that there has been no communication problems at all. I'm really excited to start! Thanks for asking.

Originally Posted by suicidal2af

Don't know much about the west, but over here in the northeast is great. Pay is MUCH better...if I can keep up the amount I do per day towards quota that I've averaged since I started, I'll do roughly 72K this year.

The commission advance payouts will seem weird when you first start, since they adjust based on your quota. Also, keep in mind that while the accelerators might not seem like much(I'm trending towards a 1.5 for this month), if you're looking at a $2800 commission check, that puts it up to a $4200 check.

Originally Posted by rabisdogis

I've heard that the pay is different from region to region. That really sucks. I used to make that kind of money over here. Last Feb, I sold almost a hundred new activations, roughly 140 features and 112 migrations. My commission check came out to $1800!!! For some reason, we just don't make much over here.

Originally Posted by sheila627

Ok i am a new cingular agent like 8 weeks new. What is this business of commision changing i work for a master agent do the rest of you?? the most we ever get paid for an activation is like $330 am i getting screwed???

Originally Posted by rabisdogis

I'm going to start in the Pacific Northwest market.

Originally Posted by Soopafly

Good luck, a lot of the best Cingular reps in our market have gone to Verizon and so far from what I hear from the two that left in my area they are doing very well. Making even more than old ATT days.

I'll be hanging out for a bit longer to see what happens and if I leave Cingular I'll be leaving wireless altogether. All this CWA Union stuff is driving me nearer to the leaving point...

Originally Posted by SoCal91302

Speaking of CWA, is Cingular union now or what?