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New RAZR Reflash Firmware: R374_G_0E.42.0ER

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Posted by: Candyman

This reflash was extracted from the latest Motorola V3 monsterpack. There will be 2 files posted here.....one will be a reflash file with no LP and the other will be with no LP and no DRM (for all you icon modders).

R374_G_0E.42.0ER_MLP_Reflash_Candyman (Reflash with no Language Pack)

R374_G_0E.42.0ER_NoDRM_MLP_Reflash_Candyman (Reflash with no Language Pack and no DRM)

Happy Modding!



Posted by: buck3y3nut

thanks for the files. If I may ask (and my humblest apologies for asking this):
what is LP and DRM stand for?
Thank you



Posted by: keiri

LP = Language Pack
DRM = The graphics (icons on the top of the screen)

K



Posted by: hidden_dragon

LP - Language Pack
DRM - Icon Pack

Thanks for the files Candyman!!!



Posted by: djdownhill

Quote:
Originally Posted by buck3y3nut
thanks for the files. If I may ask (and my humblest apologies for asking this):
what is LP and DRM stand for?
Thank you

LP = Language Pack
DRM = The Battery, signal, GPRS icons

Some of us have custom DRM's and Language Packs. That flash will keep them intact.

Thanks Candyman you saved me the trouble in making it.



Posted by: buck3y3nut

thank you very much for the prompt replies guys.



Posted by: DJKree8ive

Doh, I just flashed 42DR over the weekend!

So what icons have been customized in the DRM version? Anywhere I can look to see samples?



Posted by: termite

Anyone got any reviews on this one? The good? The bad? The ugly?



Posted by: djdownhill

Quote:
Originally Posted by DJKree8ive
So what icons have been customized in the DRM version? Anywhere I can look to see samples?

They are not custom. They are the Moto stock icons.



Posted by: Ron21

Just flashed, I don't see any changes



Posted by: djdownhill

Quote:
Originally Posted by termite
Anyone got any reviews on this one? The good? The bad? The ugly?


All I have heard so far is a little better pic quality



Posted by: [[ Cold ]]

yup i wanna know what's new... i just flashed 42.0DR last weekend too!



Posted by: DJKree8ive

Quote:
Originally Posted by djdownhill
They are not custom. They are the Moto stock icons.


Got it, thanks.



Posted by: okmozart

I have a replacement Razr that I haven't flashed or flexed yet. Will this flash enable video recording?



Posted by: Candyman

Quote:
Originally Posted by okmozart
I have a replacement Razr that I haven't flashed or flexed yet. Will this flash enable video recording?



It won't enable video recording if video recording wasn't enabled before the flash.



Posted by: shoman94

Damn signal bars....



Posted by: NewE398

Questions:

1. Can I flash it when my RAZR is on BL 8.26?
2. Does it improve the video recording store delay?



Posted by: djdownhill

Here is my 2 pennies worth.

1. Menu seem faster.
2. Pictures look better.
3. Faster load times on pics and videos.
4. Video resolution still the same. It's a cell phone people.
5. Phone calls sound nice and clean.


IMHO Seems good so far. Still to early to tell though.

Thanks again Candyman!!!



Posted by: keiri

Answers:

1. Yes, you can flash this with your Razr on BL8.26; so's this flash.
2. Don't know as I haven't flashed it yet. Guys who have can you offer some help please?

K



Posted by: andyahs

Quote:
Originally Posted by djdownhill
Here is my 2 pennies worth.

1. Menu seem faster.
2. Pictures look better.
3. Faster load times on pics and videos.
4. Video resolution still the same. It's a cell phone people.
5. Phone calls sound nice and clean.


IMHO Seems good so far. Still to early to tell though.

Thanks again Candyman!!!

You gotta love being able to Copy and Paste...........forum to forum..



Posted by: keiri

Quote:
Originally Posted by andyahs
You gotta love being able to Copy and Paste...........forum to forum..


Yeah, just read this at MoMo. Good jog DJ. Nice and simple.

K



Posted by: djdownhill

Quote:
Originally Posted by NewE398
Questions:
2. Does it improve the video recording store delay?

I did a 30 second clip and it seemed a little faster while saving it. As for pictures only it is alot faster when saving.

€€'Improved packetrange for IDKA.
€€'Increased picture refresh.
€€'Can be used on subsidyLOCK phones.

That was posted by WebClaw form Moto on this SW over at the motox forum.




Posted by: djdownhill

Quote:
Originally Posted by andyahs
You gotta love being able to Copy and Paste...........forum to forum..

LOL ^^^^^^^^^^ True very true!



Posted by: Arcturus_Finch

Ok, just a few questions about this flash. I know flashes generally don't erase all data and settings on the phone, but i think there was one that did that was posted here a few weeks ago, does this one erase anything? Also this flash isn't going to do anything like lock my unlocked phone is it? Again i know that that is something usually associated with flexes but i just want to make sure?



Posted by: cky1

Video Styles Are Working!



Posted by: djdownhill

Quote:
Originally Posted by Arcturus_Finch
Ok, just a few questions about this flash. I know flashes generally don't erase all data and settings on the phone, but i think there was one that did that was posted here a few weeks ago, does this one erase anything? Also this flash isn't going to do anything like lock my unlocked phone is it? Again i know that that is something usually associated with flexes but i just want to make sure?

Nothing but the flash was changed when I upgraded. Everything else was untouched.



Posted by: shinjiplus

thanks for the flash Candyman!

i haven't checked MoMo but i assume the full MP is up there?



Posted by: ScruffyGuy

Just curious, does anyone know what is different between this version and the previous version? Or is it like most flashes, just try it and see how it goes?

Just curious,
Thanks



Posted by: junkiee24

can you post some pics of the new drm?



Posted by: WyattEarp

Quote:
Originally Posted by ScruffyGuy
Just curious, does anyone know what is different between this version and the previous version? Or is it like most flashes, just try it and see how it goes?

Just curious,
Thanks


Nothing different so far. Mainly an overall improvement in the speed of operation. Even startup/shutdown is faster.



Posted by: WyattEarp

Quote:
Originally Posted by junkiee24
can you post some pics of the new drm?


There are no new DRM icons. Stock Moto icons only. The DRM version is if you don't use custom icons or you want the stock Moto icons. The No DRM version is for those of us who don't want to erase our custom icons and have to flash them again.



Posted by: shoman94

Quote:
Originally Posted by junkiee24
can you post some pics of the new drm?



There is no new DRM.....

The No DRM version posted by the OP will not touch your current DRM...so if your using a modded version then it won't overwrite it......thats all...



Posted by: NewE398

Quote:
Originally Posted by djdownhill
I did a 30 second clip and it seemed a little faster while saving it. As for pictures only it is alot faster when saving.


How much faster on the video recording? The old 42.07R_A that I had took around 15 sec from the moment it stop recording (by itself) until I see the store screen.



Posted by: djdownhill

Quote:
Originally Posted by NewE398
How much faster on the video recording? The old 42.07R_A that I had took around 15 sec from the moment it stop recording (by itself) until I see the store screen.

1:30 second clip took about 25 seconds to save



Posted by: hfelsh

another new version...anyone who has been having the BT disconnect issue use this yet? I'm on a call, I'll upgrade as soon as I'm done - and hopefully the BT disconnect error stops happening.



Posted by: wsup.im.chiLLiN

This firmware exhibits the DTMF bug where the tone would stick. I noticed this while checking my voicemail.



Posted by: wsup.im.chiLLiN

Ok, even worse, my phone now locks up while I'm writing text messages.

Edit: Scratch that, a firmware downgrade didnt fix this either. I also remember I tried editing my iTAP file last night and hadnt used SMS since then so Im thinking it's an iTAP file attribute related issue.



Posted by: keiri

Quote:
Originally Posted by wsup.im.chiLLiN
Ok, even worse, my phone now locks up while I'm writing text messages.

Edit: Scratch that, a firmware downgrade didnt fix this either. I also remember I tried editing my iTAP file last night and hadnt used SMS since then so Im thinking it's an iTAP file attribute related issue.



Yeah, that happened to me also on the last firmware; I messed with the TAP dictionary and my SMS and other inputs started to freeze. Delete our TAP dictionary and put the original back on the phone. That should fix the problem. Otherwise you'll have to monsterpack it.

K



Posted by: hfelsh

Well, I'm flashing to it now. I'm going to see if the BT disconnect errors are still there.



Posted by: askirsh1

How do I actually upgrade the firmware? Also, will I lose all my downloaded games and ringtones.?



Posted by: junkiee24

is it possible to make a cingular branded phone like the e398 (42-42R)?
mainly with 12 icons and engineering, airplane menus revealed?



Posted by: Ramkat

I have a T-Mobile RAZR. What would happen if I flashed the latest firmware? I would like to keep all the T-Mobile stuff, would a flash remove it all?



Posted by: djdownhill

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ramkat
I have a T-Mobile RAZR. What would happen if I flashed the latest firmware? I would like to keep all the T-Mobile stuff, would a flash remove it all?


The falsh wont change any settings and such. The flex hold these things not the flash.



Posted by: vadim

My phone never crashed with DR and this ER seems buggy, I had the outside screen go white and the phone rebooted, happened twice today. I'm blaming it on the new firmware.



Posted by: djdownhill

Quote:
Originally Posted by vadim
My phone never crashed with DR and this ER seems buggy, I had the outside screen go white and the phone rebooted, happened twice today. I'm blaming it on the new firmware.

I doubt it is the firmware. No problems for me at all. Maybe a bad flash?



Posted by: vadim

Quote:
Originally Posted by djdownhill
I doubt it is the firmware. No problems for me at all. Maybe a bad flash?

can't be a bad flash. it's verifies check sum before it finishes.



Posted by: junkiee24

try flash it again and see if it works better.



Posted by: djdownhill

Quote:
Originally Posted by vadim
can't be a bad flash. it's verifies check sum before it finishes.

That doesn't mean anything. I have had bad flashes before and all went well in the process. Try with RSD lite. Much better then PST IMO.



Posted by: igorunia3

I thought original MP was R374_G_0E.42.0ER_PDS005_LP0003_DRM0001_JPJAVA_G_0E _V3_01_0AR_SE8617MXXF1126_1FF.shx

My question is how could it be european if it comes with 0003 LP?
They don't use American English in Europe.

Anyone?



Posted by: djdownhill

Quote:
Originally Posted by igorunia3
I thought original MP was R374_G_0E.42.0ER_PDS005_LP0003_DRM0001_JPJAVA_G_0E _V3_01_0AR_SE8617MXXF1126_1FF.shx

My question is how could it be european if it comes with 0003 LP?
They don't use American English in Europe.

Anyone?

IMO the was created and not a true Monsterpack.



Posted by: igorunia3

Quote:
Originally Posted by djdownhill
IMO the was created and not a true Monsterpack.


I guess so, unless it's from Brazil.
SE8617MXXF1126_1FF looks european.

Where am I going with all this?
Not all hardware versions of Razr are the same, they have some small differences, this is why with some latest firmware versions some people have signal bar bug and some don't.
It means this new firmware is not for everyone.
This is why different people have different results.
For example, newer black and pink models probably don't have signal bar issue, because hardware is newer. Can someone confirm that?



Posted by: NewE398

Quote:
Originally Posted by djdownhill
1:30 second clip took about 25 seconds to save


Not much improvement from my 42.07R then.. Better not upgrade.



Posted by: shpack

I've also been having bugs with the ER version. Screen issues and very poor reception. I flashed back to my previous version and the phone seems back to normal. Maybe it was a bad flash, but I'll stick to the older version for now.



Posted by: igorunia3

Guys, what i found is that you must master clear and master reset your phone with newer versions or they don't work right and produce these weird bugs. I was having lots of problems with 0DR, after i reset everything it was way better but for some reason my phone was transmitting at max power and it was killing the battery, buzzing noise etc...
BT was worse.



Posted by: JadedSoul

Quote:
Originally Posted by igorunia3
Guys, what i found is that you must master clear and master reset your phone with newer versions or they don't work right and produce these weird bugs. I was having lots of problems with 0DR, after i reset everything it was way better but for some reason my phone was transmitting at max power and it was killing the battery, buzzing noise etc...
BT was worse.



Refresh my memory, what's the difference between master clear and master reset?



Posted by: hidden_dragon

This is only theoretical of course...you shouldn't have to do this every time you do a flash upgrade...I can probably justify this for a flex upgrade but for firmware???



Posted by: wsup.im.chiLLiN

Ok. Deleted iTAP dictionary. Phone runs great. Best firmware I've used yet.



Posted by: igorunia3

Quote:
Originally Posted by JadedSoul
Refresh my memory, what's the difference between master clear and master reset?


master clear will delete all data, ringtones, phonebook etc

master reset will reset all settings to defaults



Posted by: igorunia3

Quote:
Originally Posted by hidden_dragon
This is only theoretical of course...you shouldn't have to do this every time you do a flash upgrade...I can probably justify this for a flex upgrade but for firmware???


that's my point, something was changed in latest versions, i had to reset my phone to get it righ. at first i also thought that flash file maybe bad.
it was not the same.
and when i went back to 09R i had to reset it again.

my main goal is clear calls and normal battery life, i use my phone to talk to people, i don't give a F about picture quality or that the phone starts 1 sec faster, i have 5MP digital camera for that and i restart my phone once a week.



Posted by: Justin5117

Is the jumping signal bar problem still there?



Posted by: igorunia3

Quote:
Originally Posted by CingularOrange
Is the jumping signal bar problem still there?


yes



Posted by: shoman94

Quote:
Originally Posted by igorunia3
yes




Me too...



Posted by: Blitz5

just flashed from 0DR to 0ER...so far so good.

it fixed my battery meter discrepency between outer and inner lcd.

I never had reception problems so I can't comment on that. No rebooting or white screen problems here.



Posted by: hfelsh

No issues with 0ER either. I can't find my BT headset, but I was using it yesterday and didn't have the BT disconnect issue. More testing will need to be done. I still have a battery meter problem: when it's low (either 1 bar or no bars, red icon), I plug it in for a sec, then uinplug it, and it shows 3 full bars on the battery. When I use it, it goes back to 1 or no bars (all red.) Other than that, seems pretty stable.



Posted by: hidden_dragon

Quote:
Originally Posted by hfelsh
I still have a battery meter problem: when it's low (either 1 bar or no bars, red icon), I plug it in for a sec, then uinplug it, and it shows 3 full bars on the battery. When I use it, it goes back to 1 or no bars (all red.)


Unfortunately, that's how it's supposed to behave...so I wouldn't consider that a problem. The battery life seems to have improved between this version and the last. I have yet to experience the jumping signal issue in places with low signal...



Posted by: creationtech

sorry..i am a new user of V3..
how do i flash my vs?what program i should use? where i can D/L the program??
plz give me some instruction..thx..



Posted by: igorunia3

Quote:
Originally Posted by hidden_dragon
Unfortunately, that's how it's supposed to behave...so I wouldn't consider that a problem. The battery life seems to have improved between this version and the last. I have yet to experience the jumping signal issue in places with low signal...


signal bar is not jumping, it only goes 2-3 up when on call, so if you really have 1 it will show 3
it is not always 5 bars, some people just ignore it.

either way i'm not going to start running in circles and do the "can you hear me now? - no you moron!" thing.
signal bar is useless when on call, so it is not considered a major problem.



Posted by: SilverJack

Thanks candyman!!
flashing as i type. We'll see if this fixes my bluetooth issue.



Posted by: quang12

i just flash with 42.ER....everytime i try to video record something...after about like 5 secs...it automatically stops....any1 can help??



Posted by: djoyal

Quote:
Originally Posted by quang12
i just flash with 42.ER....everytime i try to video record something...after about like 5 secs...it automatically stops....any1 can help??


Mine is doing the same thing. Are we doing something wrong or is this a glitch?



Posted by: ScruffyGuy

Go to Video, then select setup, select Video Length Maxium. Then go to messages, In Box Setup, then to MMS Message Setup, Size Limit, select none. There is also a seem edit that allows you to make the Video Length Larger.

http://xlr8.us/hofo/map.txt

SEEM 004e_0001

**all offsets are HEX**
**no bit manipulation here, just change the actual value in the offset**

offset 412 - controls video record file size when phone setting is "maximum"
set to 01 for a max size of ~1 Megabyte (0100hex = 1024 kilobytes = 1 mb)
set to 14 for a max size of ~5 Megabytes (1400hex = 5120 kilobytes = 5 mb)
set to 28 for a max size of ~10 Megabytes (2800hex = 10240 kilobytes = 10 mb)
etc.


This should fix you right up.


Quote:
Originally Posted by djoyal
Mine is doing the same thing. Are we doing something wrong or is this a glitch?




Posted by: RSXTREME

Quote:
Originally Posted by creationtech
sorry..i am a new user of V3..
how do i flash my vs?what program i should use? where i can D/L the program??
plz give me some instruction..thx..

me too i cant get this to work. i downloaded flashbackup but i think i need some more drivers installed. someone please help



Posted by: JadedSoul

Quote:
Originally Posted by RSXTREME
me too i cant get this to work. i downloaded flashbackup but i think i need some more drivers installed. someone please help


Visit http://www.motox.us/motox101.htm



Posted by: RSXTREME

thanx! i finally got it. but now i see that u have 0DR instead of 0ER...



Posted by: mobilephone43

Hi, currently my phone is:

Flex - SE8615MBXXH1121
S/W Version - R374_G_0E.42.0ER

I am wondering, is this the best flash/flex for v3?



Posted by: mobilephone43

There is a small problem though.

I want my Main Menu to display all the stuff with "icon", but it only displays it with "list". I went to setting and changed it to "icon", but it still displays everything in list. How come?



Posted by: andyahs

Quote:
Originally Posted by mobilephone43
There is a small problem though.

I want my Main Menu to display all the stuff with "icon", but it only displays it with "list". I went to setting and changed it to "icon", but it still displays everything in list. How come?

You have to have 9 (3x3) items to display as 'Icons' otherwise you can only display as a list.



Posted by: mobilephone43

Currently I have 8 items. How can I change that?



Posted by: andyahs

Quote:
Originally Posted by mobilephone43
Currently I have 8 items. How can I change that?

Download P2kmenuEditor from motomodders and add an item back.





Posted by: venuz

just flashed official sharapova's v3 pink monsterpack
R374_G_0E.42.0ER_PDS005_LP002E_DRM0001_JPJAVA_G_0E _V3_01_08R_SE6765AXXU1132_1FF.sbf
and got a strange bluetooth behavour. every time i sending a file to my v3 i need to pair it with pc again. bluetooth seems to be unstable and my phone now detected by PC as "desktop computer" instead of "mobile phone".



Posted by: JadedSoul

Quote:
Originally Posted by RSXTREME
thanx! i finally got it. but now i see that u have 0DR instead of 0ER...


I chose not to flash my phone this time. I'll wait for a more definite improvement before flashing again.



Posted by: ScruffyGuy

Seems pretty stable to me. As a matter of fact, seems like the most stable firmware out there yet. The odd thing is that all phones don't behave the same. 5 people can have the same phone, same firmware, same flex, but they all connect differently. Ahhh, I love my moto.



Posted by: shoman94

I'm finding that the phone is prefering 1900mhz even though the 850mhz signal is stronger.....dropped causes because of it in areas that I never have.....back down i go.....

--Jason



Posted by: igorunia3

Quote:
Originally Posted by shoman94
I'm finding that the phone is prefering 1900mhz even though the 850mhz signal is stronger.....dropped causes because of it in areas that I never have.....back down i go.....

--Jason


that means that ENS is not working or you forgot to enable it.



Posted by: shoman94

Quote:
Originally Posted by igorunia3
that means that ENS is not working or you forgot to enable it.



No...I don't use ENS.....I'm Cingular Blue (AT&T SIM)



Posted by: SilverJack

Everything seems good so Far.
Interestingly enough I can do a manual network search and register on centennial and have the alpha tag display centennial, where as on the previous firmware’s I could not.




Posted by: ScruffyGuy

Correct me if I am wrong, but I thought the ENS was only for load balancing for the towers/network. If one tower is overloaded (even though it is the stronger tower), the call is transfered to another tower. Am I wrong?


Quote:
Originally Posted by igorunia3
that means that ENS is not working or you forgot to enable it.




Posted by: igorunia3

Quote:
Originally Posted by ScruffyGuy
Correct me if I am wrong, but I thought the ENS was only for load balancing for the towers/network. If one tower is overloaded (even though it is the stronger tower), the call is transfered to another tower. Am I wrong?


Not exactly.
Without ENS, your phone will stick to the first tower on the list (on sim card),
they're listed by preference: 1,2,3, etc.

With ENS it will use SIM card logic that can be adjusted by provider, they can sent OTA update to your SIM card.

When I just got my 64K SIM, my phone was doing the same thing, it was sticking to very weak 1900 310-170 Cingular/T-Mo, I called CS and they sent OTA update to my SIM, from now on if I have ENS enabled, my phone will prefer 850 310-380 AT&T and if this tower is overloaded it will switch to 310-170.

I don't know if it will help with 32K SIM, you might want to try to seem edit to show network name from SIM card, this way hopefully two towers will look the same for your phone and it will stick to the stronger one.
You must have latest OTA update on your SIM, because old SIM will still see 310-380 as AT&T, latest update will show both as Cingular.

Most of the time if you remove battery from the working phone and the start it again in about 20 sec, you might be able to force your phone to reload OTA update from the tower.

Have fun!
And post results



Posted by: hfelsh

Unfortunately, after a couple of days of no issues, the BT disconnect issue reared it's ugly head. The BT headset kept disconecting yesterday, even thought he phone & headset were less than 2 feet apart.

Also, the signal strength bug is still there (2 bars when not on a call, make a call and the bars go to 5 - full strength; hang up, and the signal strength goes back to 2 bars.)



Posted by: hfelsh

Quote:
Originally Posted by shoman94
No...I don't use ENS.....I'm Cingular Blue (AT&T SIM)
Correct me if I'm wrong, but Blue still uses ENS, doesn't it?



Posted by: SilverJack

Quote:
Originally Posted by hfelsh
Correct me if I'm wrong, but Blue still uses ENS, doesn't it?

Having ENS is the reason that orange switched to the the 64k sims. It is meant to load balance between orange and blue towers. All all blue sims are still 32k so they dont have Enhanced Network selection.
hope this helps.



Posted by: hidden_dragon

Quote:
Originally Posted by shoman94
No...I don't use ENS.....I'm Cingular Blue (AT&T SIM)


If you are on Cingular Blue, then your SIM card should not be preferring the 1900 band as that was exclusive to Cingular Orange. It's possible that all you need do is ask Customer Service to send you an OTA update so that Cingular Blue is defaulted.



Posted by: igorunia3

Quote:
Originally Posted by hfelsh
Unfortunately, after a couple of days of no issues, the BT disconnect issue reared it's ugly head. The BT headset kept disconecting yesterday, even thought he phone & headset were less than 2 feet apart.

Also, the signal strength bug is still there (2 bars when not on a call, make a call and the bars go to 5 - full strength; hang up, and the signal strength goes back to 2 bars.)


you know, BT disconnect is 99% jabra's fault
i have bt250 and bt250b, both have this issue and hs820 is working fine, i even sent bt250 for warranty repair and it didn't help a lot, they upgraded fw on it, but it still gets disconnected once in a while.
jabra is the most comfortable one but their radio sucks, i get "bt signal weak"



Posted by: hidden_dragon

Quote:
Originally Posted by igorunia3
you know, BT disconnect is 99% jabra's fault
i have bt250 and bt250b, both have this issue and hs820 is working fine, i even sent bt250 for warranty repair and it didn't help a lot, they upgraded fw on it, but it still gets disconnected once in a while.
jabra is the most comfortable one but their radio sucks, i get "bt signal weak"


I've pointed this out as well but it seems he's convinced it's the phone's firmware.



Posted by: shoman94

Quote:
Originally Posted by hidden_dragon
If you are on Cingular Blue, then your SIM card should not be preferring the 1900 band as that was exclusive to Cingular Orange. It's possible that all you need do is ask Customer Service to send you an OTA update so that Cingular Blue is defaulted.



Here there is no 310-380 anymore....
Only 310-410...but have 850 and 1900 mhz.....using 42.0ER its stays on 1900 more...and had some dropped calls in 2 areas that I never dropped using 42.08R....so now I'm trying 42.0DR and have not dropped it in those areas like 42.0ER and it is also camping on 850 now...as it should since its a stronger signal....



Posted by: shoman94

Quote:
Originally Posted by hfelsh
Correct me if I'm wrong, but Blue still uses ENS, doesn't it?


Nope...Blue never used ENS...Cingular only for the reasons that were already stated above.....
And yea....I hate the signal bar bug.....the only good thing I noticed about it is if I'm in a bad area and hear some cutting out...the signal bars will start to show less than 5 bars.....

--Jason



Posted by: hidden_dragon

Quote:
Originally Posted by shoman94
Here there is no 310-380 anymore....
Only 310-410...but have 850 and 1900 mhz.....using 42.0ER its stays on 1900 more...and had some dropped calls in 2 areas that I never dropped using 42.08R....so now I'm trying 42.0DR and have not dropped it in those areas like 42.0ER and it is also camping on 850 now...as it should since its a stronger signal....


It sounds like you're in an area where Network integration may be occurring. (Here in the San Francisco bay area, we are still on 380 and 170...no 410 yet.) The 42.0ER was probably optimized for a different flex(s) so your ATTW flex is probably not supported. If and when you decide to migrate, you will probably upgrade your flex which will then work better with future firmware upgrades.



Posted by: igorunia3

Quote:
Originally Posted by shoman94
Here there is no 310-380 anymore....
Only 310-410...but have 850 and 1900 mhz.....using 42.0ER its stays on 1900 more...and had some dropped calls in 2 areas that I never dropped using 42.08R....so now I'm trying 42.0DR and have not dropped it in those areas like 42.0ER and it is also camping on 850 now...as it should since its a stronger signal....


have you tried manually force it to another tower even if they have same id?



Posted by: SilverJack

Quote:
Originally Posted by hidden_dragon
If you are on Cingular Blue, then your SIM card should not be preferring the 1900 band as that was exclusive to Cingular Orange. It's possible that all you need do is ask Customer Service to send you an OTA update so that Cingular Blue is defaulted.

If thats the case then why does my market have only 1900 blue towers?



Posted by: hidden_dragon

Quote:
Originally Posted by SilverJack
If thats the case then why does my market have only 1900 blue towers?


That's because Cingular Orange has integrated with Cingular Blue in your market.



Posted by: shoman94

Quote:
Originally Posted by hidden_dragon
It sounds like you're in an area where Network integration may be occurring. (Here in the San Francisco bay area, we are still on 380 and 170...no 410 yet.) The 42.0ER was probably optimized for a different flex(s) so your ATTW flex is probably not supported. If and when you decide to migrate, you will probably upgrade your flex which will then work better with future firmware upgrades.



Our network is all 310-410.....
I'm using MotoFlex....I've used a few different ones.....this one worked out the best for me....



Posted by: shoman94

Quote:
Originally Posted by igorunia3
have you tried manually force it to another tower even if they have same id?


You can't force it if they have the same ID...Network selection only offers one choice: Cingular 310-410.....lol



Posted by: troyboy30

Im orange with a sim that was set to prefer blue to get reception! go figure!

we still have 380, 410 and 260 here...no int. for us yet.



Posted by: hidden_dragon

Quote:
Originally Posted by troyboy30
Im orange with a sim that was set to prefer blue to get reception! go figure!

we still have 380, 410 and 260 here...no int. for us yet.


I wonder which provider uses the MNC number of 260? 380 was ATTW, 410 is Cingular and 170 is T-Mobster...



Posted by: hfelsh

Quote:
Originally Posted by igorunia3
you know, BT disconnect is 99% jabra's fault
i have bt250 and bt250b, both have this issue and hs820 is working fine, i even sent bt250 for warranty repair and it didn't help a lot, they upgraded fw on it, but it still gets disconnected once in a while.
jabra is the most comfortable one but their radio sucks, i get "bt signal weak"
Quote:
Originally Posted by hidden_dragon
I've pointed this out as well but it seems he's convinced it's the phone's firmware.
I might agree, except for the fact that with the original 57R firmware and flex, this issue did not happen at all. I can't take my phone back to the 57R firmware (due to the BL being upgraded), but as luck would have it, one of the supervisors I work with has a Cingular Blue V3 with the original (57R) firmware and flex on it. I used it for a week letting him use mine, just swapped SIMs) and the BT disconnect issue did not happen at all. I usually am on conference calls lasting 30 minutes - 4 hours, mostly while driving, or at my apartment (I work from home a lot.) When I first got the V3, it didn't happen, ever. After I upgraded firmware a few times, it kept getting worse. This latest one seems to help - it doesn't happen every time, but when it does, I have to disconnect the BT headset then reconnect it, and it seems to work for a while w/o the error.

So how can it be the headset? With 57R firmware: problem never happens. Upgraded firmware: problem happens. Yes, it *must* be the headset.

If I could take my phone back to 57R I would.



Posted by: hfelsh

Quote:
Originally Posted by hidden_dragon
I wonder which provider uses the MNC number of 260? 380 was ATTW, 410 is Cingular and 170 is T-Mobster...
Using it shows:

Poland:
Plus GSM 260 01
ERA GSM 260 02
IDEA Centertel 260 03

There is also a thread in the Cingular FAQ (The Ultimate MCC-MNC List for the USA) that shows 310-260 is T-Mobile in the US.



Posted by: troyboy30

Quote:
Originally Posted by hfelsh
I might agree, except for the fact that with the original 57R firmware and flex, this issue did not happen at all. I can't take my phone back to the 57R firmware (due to the BL being upgraded), but as luck would have it, one of the supervisors I work with has a Cingular Blue V3 with the original (57R) firmware and flex on it. I used it for a week letting him use mine, just swapped SIMs) and the BT disconnect issue did not happen at all. I usually am on conference calls lasting 30 minutes - 4 hours, mostly while driving, or at my apartment (I work from home a lot.) When I first got the V3, it didn't happen, ever. After I upgraded firmware a few times, it kept getting worse. This latest one seems to help - it doesn't happen every time, but when it does, I have to disconnect the BT headset then reconnect it, and it seems to work for a while w/o the error.

So how can it be the headset? With 57R firmware: problem never happens. Upgraded firmware: problem happens. Yes, it *must* be the headset.

If I could take my phone back to 57R I would.



Sorry to tell ya, but I came all the way from 57R with a HS850 and have had zero issues.



Quote:
There is also a thread in the Cingular FAQ (The Ultimate MCC-MNC List for the USA) that shows 310-260 is T-Mobile in the US.


That's what it is!



Posted by: hidden_dragon

[QUOTE=troyboy30]Sorry to tell ya, but I came all the way from 57R with a HS850 and have had zero issues.

QUOTE]


Same here. I have theorized (throughout these newer upgrades) that support for non-Moto headsets have been weakened. You could go all the way back to C0R, I guess, since that still uses the 8.23 BL. But, connectivity with Moto-brand BT headsets have been beefed up...this is mostly noticeable as I don't have the problems with weak BT signal in places I used to encounter.



Posted by: igorunia3

[QUOTE=troyboy30]Sorry to tell ya, but I came all the way from 57R with a HS850 and have had zero issues.

I agree,

I love my Jabra, it is very comfortable and so far the most important is that even with new firmware it is not disconnecting in the car.
As i get into an office building or home, in 10-15 minutes bam "bt signal weak, use handset?".
Too much crap is running on 2.4GHz these days, Wi-Fi, cordless phones - just ordered panasonic 5.8, because old phone also gets disconnected.
Biggest crapper award goes to Linksys, they're one of the worst air polluters.
And again, if moto can make their BT stay connected, others will eventually figure it out, it is all still pretty new technology, maybe newer jabra models will be better or motorola will make something more comfortable.



Posted by: kscwv

I did the update and calls were noisy and dropped...reverted back to old 42.08 and battery didn't charge right overnight. Thinking about redoing everything, flash/flex.



Posted by: ScruffyGuy

Interesting, I've upgraded my firmware and I also have the HS850 headset and at times I still get the "Bt signal weak use handset". Pretty annoying. I think a lot of it has to do with the Razr. I've used the handset on other phones and it seems to work extremely well.



Quote:
Originally Posted by igorunia3
[QUOTE=troyboy30]Sorry to tell ya, but I came all the way from 57R with a HS850 and have had zero issues.

I agree,

I love my Jabra, it is very comfortable and so far the most important is that even with new firmware it is not disconnecting in the car.
As i get into an office building or home, in 10-15 minutes bam "bt signal weak, use handset?".
Too much crap is running on 2.4GHz these days, Wi-Fi, cordless phones - just ordered panasonic 5.8, because old phone also gets disconnected.
Biggest crapper award goes to Linksys, they're one of the worst air polluters.
And again, if moto can make their BT stay connected, others will eventually figure it out, it is all still pretty new technology, maybe newer jabra models will be better or motorola will make something more comfortable.




Posted by: hfelsh

Quote:
Originally Posted by ScruffyGuy
Interesting, I've upgraded my firmware and I also have the HS850 headset and at times I still get the "Bt signal weak use handset". Pretty annoying. I think a lot of it has to do with the Razr. I've used the handset on other phones and it seems to work extremely well.
See, that;s why I don't believe it's a Jabra issue. Other people with Jabra headsets encounter the same problem; othjer people with Moto BT headsets do too. Some people, with either Jabra or Moto BT headsets, don't encounter it at all. I'm wondering if it might actually be a flex issue. I may go back to the 57R flex (can I?) and see what it does.

But overall, I do not believe it's a problem with the headset I have. If it were, other people should have the same problem - but not everyone does (like I said, some othes do, some others don't, and we all have the same headset.) And if someone with a Moto BT headset has the exact same problem - how do you explain that?



Posted by: hidden_dragon

Quote:
Originally Posted by hfelsh
See, that;s why I don't believe it's a Jabra issue. Other people with Jabra headsets encounter the same problem; othjer people with Moto BT headsets do too. Some people, with either Jabra or Moto BT headsets, don't encounter it at all. I'm wondering if it might actually be a flex issue. I may go back to the 57R flex (can I?) and see what it does.

But overall, I do not believe it's a problem with the headset I have. If it were, other people should have the same problem - but not everyone does (like I said, some othes do, some others don't, and we all have the same headset.) And if someone with a Moto BT headset has the exact same problem - how do you explain that?


I don't think Scruffyguy has the EXACT SAME problem as you. He merely stated that he gets the "BT signal weak" at certain points...most likely, in certain spots. Things can interfere with the signal so you're not going to have indefinite connection everywhere.

It "could" be a flex issue as you pointed out. I'm still running with the old Cing 065 flex...never upgraded that since I got the phone. Prior to 3CR, I got the "BT signal weak" in one specific spot (I use the HS 850). After 3CR, I no longer get that message in that same spot. So either the interference was gone or the firmware upgrade made the connection stronger. I may never know for sure...



Posted by: shoman94

I have an hs810 and have no issues what so ever....firmware 42.08R no issues what so ever....



Posted by: nutsfu

I'm a total noob to this flashing and flexing stuff. Two days ago I used a monsterpack to install S/W: R374_G_0E.42.0ER and flex: SE617MXXF1126. I am on Cingular. Now my battery runs out really quickly, less than one day. What did I do wrong and how can I fix this? Prior to using the monsterpack my phone had S/W 40.57R.



Posted by: p2p.exe

Quote:
Originally Posted by nutsfu
I'm a total noob to this flashing and flexing stuff. Two days ago I used a monsterpack to install S/W: R374_G_0E.42.0ER and flex: SE617MXXF1126. I am on Cingular. Now my battery runs out really quickly, less than one day. What did I do wrong and how can I fix this? Prior to using the monsterpack my phone had S/W 40.57R.



run the battery all the way down until the phone shut itself off by looping a video then charge the phone in that state untill its fully charged. see if that works.. worked for me



Posted by: ScruffyGuy

I think its just a bt issue. For some reason, where I am at has something emmiting the same frequency as my bt headset, thus I get disconnected.


Quote:
Originally Posted by hidden_dragon
I don't think Scruffyguy has the EXACT SAME problem as you. He merely stated that he gets the "BT signal weak" at certain points...most likely, in certain spots. Things can interfere with the signal so you're not going to have indefinite connection everywhere.

It "could" be a flex issue as you pointed out. I'm still running with the old Cing 065 flex...never upgraded that since I got the phone. Prior to 3CR, I got the "BT signal weak" in one specific spot (I use the HS 850). After 3CR, I no longer get that message in that same spot. So either the interference was gone or the firmware upgrade made the connection stronger. I may never know for sure...




Posted by: hfelsh

Quote:
Originally Posted by hidden_dragon
I don't think Scruffyguy has the EXACT SAME problem as you. He merely stated that he gets the "BT signal weak" at certain points...most likely, in certain spots. Things can interfere with the signal so you're not going to have indefinite connection everywhere.
That's the same problem I've got. But I get the BT disconnect msg in my kitchen, sitting at my desk, sitting on my couch, at work, etc. It doesn't happen *every* time. There are times when I do not get the msg. And times when I do. So yeah, he and I have the same issue.



Posted by: hidden_dragon

Quote:
Originally Posted by hfelsh
That's the same problem I've got. But I get the BT disconnect msg in my kitchen, sitting at my desk, sitting on my couch, at work, etc. It doesn't happen *every* time. There are times when I do not get the msg. And times when I do. So yeah, he and I have the same issue.


Have you tried the following:

1) Connected the headset to another phone in the same area you usually get disconnected?
2) Connected another brand headset and encountered the same problem?

If not, then you should so that you can at least eliminate either the headset or the phone being the problem.



Posted by: abuthemagician

I have not seen this mentioned anywhere, but would you ever lose the carrier information when flashing / flexing? I am going to flash my sisters phone for her and i want to know what i am getting myself into. I will probably go with the latest no drm.



Posted by: andyahs

Quote:
Originally Posted by abuthemagician
I have not seen this mentioned anywhere, but would you ever lose the carrier information when flashing / flexing? I am going to flash my sisters phone for her and i want to know what i am getting myself into. I will probably go with the latest no drm.

The carrier info is contained in the flex so if you just use the flash (reflash) it will leave everything as is.



Posted by: abuthemagician

Quote:
The carrier info is contained in the flex so if you just use the flash (reflash) it will leave everything as is.


so is there a way to back it up if i flex it?



Posted by: junkiee24

if you are a noob flasher.. you should search and read before flashing..

flash at your own will and if it messes up your phone its no ones fault but your own.
jsut please dont ask the same questions as previously posted i nolder threads. its a bit irritating. so please make sure you follow carfule instructions and use the correct files. some file name are deceiveing.

good luck



Posted by: Topazworm

I hope someone can help me with something.
I got my razr today and flashed it with this lastest FW, everything is going fine. Well except that the txt entry doest work well. itap works. But if i want to enter txt using tap once twice etc it wont work. For example if i try to rename a contact in the phonebook i have to switch to itap, and i DONT want to use itap. The standard input only works in txt msgs. Any advice?



Posted by: Candyman

Quote:
Originally Posted by Topazworm
I hope someone can help me with something.
I got my razr today and flashed it with this lastest FW, everything is going fine. Well except that the txt entry doest work well. itap works. But if i want to enter txt using tap once twice etc it wont work. For example if i try to rename a contact in the phonebook i have to switch to itap, and i DONT want to use itap. The standard input only works in txt msgs. Any advice?


You gotta go into the setup and change the entry mode.



Posted by: marshal

Quote:
Originally Posted by hidden_dragon
If you are on Cingular Blue, then your SIM card should not be preferring the 1900 band as that was exclusive to Cingular Orange. It's possible that all you need do is ask Customer Service to send you an OTA update so that Cingular Blue is defaulted.


No, the 1900 band is not exclusive to Cingular Orange. Before Cingular bought AWS (ATT Wireless) they already had towers operating on both frequencies (1900 and 850). Just as Cingular had 1900 and 850 depending on what licenses they had in the area.

The SIMS tell the phone what network MNC to prefer, not the band.



Posted by: hidden_dragon

Quote:
Originally Posted by marshal
No, the 1900 band is not exclusive to Cingular Orange. Before Cingular bought AWS (ATT Wireless) they already had towers operating on both frequencies (1900 and 850). Just as Cingular had 1900 and 850 depending on what licenses they had in the area.

The SIMS tell the phone what network MNC to prefer, not the band.


Cingular had roaming agreements with ATTW which gave them access to the 850 frequency, and vice-versa. Yes, the SIM indicates MNC prefence, but with the legacy ATTW SIM card, the MNC preference were obviously defaulting to the 850 towers that ATTW formerly owned.



Posted by: shoman94

LOL...Cingular only had 1900 in Cali....but as a whole Cingular had/has both frequencys....period.

The SIM tells the phone what towers to use not frequency....I've seen some firmware prefer 850 over 1900 and vice versa.....



Posted by: steve8411

Aren't we about due for the next flash !??!?!?

Almost 2 months



Posted by: sntraders

Well if you wana enable video on any v3...after you flash it with the firmware posted upthere you can flex with this small file and you will have video activated...email me for the file...sntraders1@yahoo.com



Posted by: hfelsh

Quote:
Originally Posted by steve8411
Aren't we about due for the next flash !??!?!?

Almost 2 months
Yeah, I've been wondering the same thing!



Posted by: termite

Quote:
Originally Posted by hfelsh
Yeah, I've been wondering the same thing!


I'm wonder also. It looks as if though they've stopped producing new stuff for it. Hope I'm wrong.



Posted by: redragon745

onto the L7!!!!



Posted by: Nextel14

Guys I got a problem i flashed my phone with this new one and im noticing not too good of battery life..is this normal..or is it just me?



Posted by: ScruffyGuy

Take out the battery and leave it out for a few hours. Insert the battery, charge the phone and then let the battery run out completely then charge it fully. Should fix the problem.

If you do a search (which isn't often easy to do) you will find that this happens now and then after a flash.

You may want to also check the setting of the new phone.

What is the display timeout set to?
What is the backlight at?


Tom



Posted by: Nextel14

Okay ill do this now before i go out for the night..
Display Time out- 2mins
Backlight-40 secs

thanks again tom..ill let you know what happens



Posted by: Nextel14

well it didnt die tonight while i was out..but the battery meter dropped mad time after a 2 min call...so theres something definatly wrong..but im leaving it on all night (im not charging it till it dies over night)..but when i charge it in the morning..shouldi have it on or off?



Posted by: ScruffyGuy

Shut the phone off. Let it charge, when its fully charged disconnect the charger and wait 10 seconds and plug it back in. Let it charge until fully charged again. If you want repeat disconnecting it once more for 10 seconds and charge it again for a few hours.

I will try to find you the thread about this.

Tom



Posted by: Nextel14

well after i let it die over night last night i charged it today while turned off and i made a bunch of calls tongiht and its still fully charged no drop in bars..so good so far thanks



Posted by: Nextel14

** One more thing...atleast i noticed after flashing is that my low battery indicator changed..i dont like it..its not a good alert..its not the normal BEEP..BEEP..BEEP, not it sounds like alien sorta sound
anyway to change the alert?



Posted by: termite

Quote:
Originally Posted by redragon745
onto the L7!!!!


heh, I don't like that one. I'll probably be upgrading my phone next month. Either HTC MDA or V3i (not too sure about V3i yet, since it doesn't look like anyone is planning on carrying it in the USA, and I don't feel like paying $500+ for one).



Posted by: hfelsh

Quote:
Originally Posted by termite
heh, I don't like that one. I'll probably be upgrading my phone next month. Either HTC MDA or V3i (not too sure about V3i yet, since it doesn't look like anyone is planning on carrying it in the USA, and I don't feel like paying $500+ for one).
Uh, Cingular will be carrying it:

Cingular Phones sub-forum: Sticky: PRE-RELEASE: Motorola V3i

Expected to be released in a few months, IIRC. Me, I'm looking at the V3x.



Posted by: jaylou180

I have a razor with R374_G_0E.420ER is this the most up to date firmware.



Posted by: hidden_dragon

Yes it is!



Posted by: Cocolo27

So, what's the verdict on this reflash? Good or no good? I'm about to take the plunge, but the Bluetooth issues and the jumping battery bars are holding me back. Let me know.

SW: R374_G_0E.40.9CR
BL: 08.23
Flex: SE8613AXXL1079
HW: SJUG0851CA



Posted by: wahur1

how to Flash? .. i dont know ..can anyone tell me the procedure



Posted by: Cocolo27

I guess I shouldn't worriy much since I just saw that since this morning there is a new S/W out there already. I still would like any opinions if possible.



Posted by: Cocolo27

I flashed the new 42.0FR on my phone and is working great. No issues with the jumping battery or bluetooth.



Posted by: Red Mtn Dog

Is there a flash file that provides a more visible signal bar display for Razr?



Posted by: sharkattack_hk

so which Flash version is the best? which on

Also can I flash my Razr, even if my Razr is locked to a phone network carrier (Rogers)?



Posted by: T-Mobile Guy

I have two questions, I have a T-mobile branded Razr which is locked.

if I flash it with this software, will it unlock the phone? and my second question is if this flash is unbranded? (or that depends on the flex if the phone becomes branded/unbradnded after flashing)?



Posted by: T-Mobile Guy

I need an unbrabded flex to use with this flash for V3....that can also unlock the software.



Posted by: andyahs

Quote:
Originally Posted by T-Mobile Guy
I have two questions, I have a T-mobile branded Razr which is locked.

if I flash it with this software, will it unlock the phone? and my second question is if this flash is unbranded? (or that depends on the flex if the phone becomes branded/unbradnded after flashing)?

No flash/flex will unlock your phone and the branding is in the flex.





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