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Posted by: burntrat

Anyone have like weird buzzing sounds coming out of their speakers? PC and/or TV. It mostly comes from my PC speakers at random times. Once in a while just before I receive calls, I would get the noise. It sounds like a static like morse code beeping with buzzing. It gets louder when the phone gets closer to the speakers. It was barely an issue before, but now I get it constantly. I can't be the only one having this problem right?

I signed up with ATT before the merge and would get Cingular in the operator logo when roaming, but lately its been on stuck on Cingular. I am in Southeastern PA. Is it stuck at Cingular or eventually go back to ATT? I ask because I got rid of the Operator logo for ATT and cannot for Cingular. I've searched through the other posts and nothing seemed to work. The logo would dl and save just fine, but still would show Cingular. If anyone knows how to solve this itll help me out alot. thanks

Posted by: ElectronIntegra

It is just RF interference.

Posted by: splunk

Do they make speakers that are shielded from such interference?

Posted by: tekelberry

Since you mention that this problem just started and you are a former AT&T Wireless customer, it's possible that AT&T Wireless ran on the 1900 band which causes little to no interference. Now that your market is integrated, your phone could be picking up the 850 band which causes the interference. Interference is the price you pay for a more powerful signal.

Posted by: i0wnj00

That's a known issue in particular when the phone is using the 800/850 MHz band to communicate with the cell site. It can occur if the phone is using the 1900 MHz band, but it's more pronounced on the 800/850 MHz band. Yes, I get the buzzing sound on my Altec Lansings, and if I make/receive a call the buzzing gets so annoying that I end up turning off the speakers for the duration of the call.

Posted by: TProphet

This is only a problem with TDMA and GSM handsets. CDMA handsets, whether on 800 or 1900MHz freqencies, do not have this problem.

Of course, this doesn't do you a whole lot of good as a Cingular customer. They're a GSM/TDMA carrier.

Posted by: EPVQ30

my tdma phone does not buzz, my wives gsm sounds like a radiation meter. annoying.

Posted by: ASimpleFarmer

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Originally Posted by EPVQ30

my tdma phone does not buzz, my wives gsm sounds like a radiation meter. annoying.

wives eh?

Posted by: iowacingular

My old CDMA tracfone off U.S. Cellular worse than my GSM.

Posted by: iowacingular

My old CDMA tracfone off U.S. Cellular is worse than my GSM.

Posted by: brody4

take your sim card out and put it in a different phone.

Posted by: bobolito

So it gets louder when the phone gets closer to the speakers? Gee, I wonder if it is the phone that's causing that.

Posted by: EPVQ30

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Originally Posted by ASimpleFarmer

wives eh?

i meant wife's.. i don't live in Utah.

Posted by: DRC72

Your speakers are not sheilded properly from radio frequency signals.

Posted by: feverish

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Originally Posted by drc72

Your speakers are not sheilded properly from radio frequency signals.

You have to love superior technology... Now if only Sprint consented to R-UIM, the world would be a little more perfect. And, if Sprint carried more Motorola phones on their CDMA side. Hopefully they will once Nextel integrates.

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Posted by: The WB

My older Ericsson buzzed in my computer speakers, but the Nokia's - NO buzzing at all.

Posted by: brealmp3

i could always tell when my nextel was gonna ring the tv, computer speakers buzzed, and then the computer screen would get wavy. it was great especially if my girl was over i could reach for the phone and turn the ringer off incase it was another girl! she never learned, you have to love blondes

Posted by: co678

I dont get it frm my Moto's i used to get it on my V120c on VZ and on my 1100 on cingular and also on my V60g (1900mhz only) alot!

Posted by: shortyd999

Wirelessly posted (MOT-V3/0E.40.9CR MIB/2.2.1 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.0 UP.Link/6.3.0.0.0)

I had my phone on top of a toy truck that could make revving noices and everytime my phone would ring the toy truck would come on!

Posted by: I have a phone

Is this thread worthy of 2 pages?

Posted by: DRC72

I swapped out my 19inch TV with a different one and now my cell doesn't interfere with my new TV. Go figuire.

Posted by: ASimpleFarmer

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Originally Posted by I have a phone

Is this thread worthy of 2 pages?

you see this kind of thread every few months

Posted by: CaptShadow

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Originally Posted by burntrat

I signed up with ATT before the merge and would get Cingular in the operator logo when roaming, but lately its been on stuck on Cingular. I am in Southeastern PA. Is it stuck at Cingular or eventually go back to ATT? I ask because I got rid of the Operator logo for ATT and cannot for Cingular. I've searched through the other posts and nothing seemed to work. The logo would dl and save just fine, but still would show Cingular. If anyone knows how to solve this itll help me out alot. thanks

I'm not sure about your phone, but after I downloaded the blank logo I had to turn it on in the screen settings menu to get it to work. When I turn it off the Cingular logo shows up.

Posted by: thisisnotadrill

the reason that its more frequent now is because the integration in SE PA has already occured. your phone is always roaming and therefore checks to try to find the old att network which doesnt exist every 6 minutes (or something along that order).

Posted by: dondono

I thought that sound was the overseer's of the internet checking up on me

Posted by: ZedX3

I get this on my Motorola V551 from time to time when my phone is about to ring.

My PC speakers can predict the future.

Posted by: mini4em

Does anyone know if this happens on all Cingular phones, or just certain models ?? Is there anything to fix this problem ??

Posted by: tendura

All GSM phones do this.

Posted by: DRC72

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Originally Posted by mini4em

Does anyone know if this happens on all Cingular phones, or just certain models ?? Is there anything to fix this problem ??

It's not the phone that is the problem. The electronic equipment is not sheilded properly from the RF signals emitted from the phone

Posted by: volboline

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Originally Posted by ZedX3

I get this on my Motorola V551 from time to time when my phone is about to ring.

My PC speakers can predict the future.

it's not just the PC speakers
its all speakers,
that are near to it like
TV, radio.

Posted by: i0wnj00

Wirelessly posted (HTC-8100/1.2 Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows CE; PPC; 240x320) UP.Link/6.3.0.0.0)

I'll add car speakers, as well since I was using my V3 merely for data use and the car speakers buzzed.

(No, I wasn't playing around with my data plan while I was driving.)

Posted by: Derek Zoolander

My Sony Ericsson z520i did this all the time, while my Samsung s307 doesnt do this at all. Has to be a problem with the hardware. They are both 850/1900

Posted by: agent623

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Originally Posted by i0wnj00

That's a known issue in particular when the phone is using the 800/850 MHz band to communicate with the cell site. It can occur if the phone is using the 1900 MHz band, but it's more pronounced on the 800/850 MHz band. Yes, I get the buzzing sound on my Altec Lansings, and if I make/receive a call the buzzing gets so annoying that I end up turning off the speakers for the duration of the call.

I agree with this. I lived for a year and a half in a 850-only roaming area (Dobson) and placing/receiving/being on a call would make it unbearable to be in the same room with my tv. I have sinced moved and rarely (if ever) get interference.

I like 850's building penetration, but it makes me wonder what the signal is doing to my head!

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Originally Posted by Derek Zoolander

My Sony Ericsson z520i did this all the time, while my Samsung s307 doesnt do this at all. Has to be a problem with the hardware. They are both 850/1900

But again, the phone that did this was a SE t637, so maybe SE's do this more than others...

Posted by: beatlesfan

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Originally Posted by drc72

Your speakers are not sheilded properly from radio frequency signals.

Most speakers are shielded as are computers and other electronic equipment. They just aren't shielded adequately for a signal source as strong as the cell phone. The only remedy is to move the cell phone away from the computer and speakers. The "random" noise you hear is the cell phone "talking" to the cell network. It's called a handshake and it's how the cell phone system aquires your cell phone.

Peace....

Posted by: ADSisson

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Originally Posted by i0wnj00

Wirelessly posted (HTC-8100/1.2 Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows CE; PPC; 240x320) UP.Link/6.3.0.0.0)

I'll add car speakers, as well since I was using my V3 merely for data use and the car speakers buzzed.

Have the same thing with TV, Computer and car stereo. I know what causes it and adjust accordingly. Doesn't phase me any more. And I am new to GSM.

Posted by: babyivan

HMMMMMM........Im about to tear my hair out of my head with the amount of noise that comes through my car speakers when my cell phone is communicating with the towers. I guess the only solution is to pull my car speakers out and try to better shield them. Im gonna go to an auto shop and see if they have experience with this stuff.
I just migrated from TDMA to GSM and my V60 TDMA phone only buzzed the speakers when I was receiving a call (Kinda cool actually), but now it buzzes much louder and often when not receiving a call....I have a Nokia 6102 BTW(sweet phone!).

......GSM kicks @ss!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: beatlesfan

The problem isn't with the car stereo speakers. The phone is not close enough to them to case RF interference. Try simply moving the phone away from your car stereo head unit. Sounds like the phone is mounted on your dashboard next to the head unit. If I'm wrong, my apologies. My experience is that RF interference from the cellphone will cause noise on wire-line telephones, computers and stereos. My father was a HAM radio operator for years and his signal used to mess with the next door neighbors' TV.

Posted by: babyivan

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Originally Posted by beatlesfan

The problem isn't with the car stereo speakers. The phone is not close enough to them to case RF interference. Try simply moving the phone away from your car stereo head unit. Sounds like the phone is mounted on your dashboard next to the head unit. If I'm wrong, my apologies. My experience is that RF interference from the cellphone will cause noise on wire-line telephones, computers and stereos. My father was a HAM radio operator for years and his signal used to mess with the next door neighbors' TV.

Moving the phone to the back seat helps the problem, but what good is that?
I notice that when the problem occurs, if I cover the phone with my hand, the noise gets a little lower and muffled.
Im gonna ask around and see if my friend who's an auto-electrical guy knows of a known fix and then Ill post it on here if it helps.

Posted by: DRC72

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Originally Posted by babyivan

Moving the phone to the back seat helps the problem, but what good is that?

All he has to do is get a headset with a longer cord.

Posted by: i0wnj00

Quote:

Originally Posted by drc72

All he has to do is get a headset with a longer cord.

BT is even better, toss the phone in the backseat.

Posted by: DRC72

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Originally Posted by i0wnj00

BT is even better, toss the phone in the backseat.

Good Point! I didn't even think of that.

Posted by: jetfxr

Does anyone Know any more about the "handshake"? The frequent uninhibited transmission while at rest?

Posted by: blkballoon925

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Originally Posted by jetfxr

Does anyone Know any more about the "handshake"? The frequent uninhibited transmission while at rest?

It's just a re-registration to tell the network you haven't gone into a "no service" area or had your battery die.

Posted by: SeanZ0r

It happens updates every 30 min or soo, i guess, if not using data, (automatic mailbox update, signed into a chat service) Because it pulsates my CRT moniter, and i can tell by how many shakes in the screen if im goign to receive a call or get a text message.

Posted by: loizzo

my speakers do it when im near them and on the fone

Posted by: makaveli_co

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Originally Posted by burntrat

Anyone have like weird buzzing sounds coming out of their speakers? PC and/or TV. It mostly comes from my PC speakers at random times. Once in a while just before I receive calls, I would get the noise. It sounds like a static like morse code beeping with buzzing. It gets louder when the phone gets closer to the speakers. It was barely an issue before, but now I get it constantly. I can't be the only one having this problem right?

I signed up with ATT before the merge and would get Cingular in the operator logo when roaming, but lately its been on stuck on Cingular. I am in Southeastern PA. Is it stuck at Cingular or eventually go back to ATT? I ask because I got rid of the Operator logo for ATT and cannot for Cingular. I've searched through the other posts and nothing seemed to work. The logo would dl and save just fine, but still would show Cingular. If anyone knows how to solve this itll help me out alot. thanks

I had att a couple years ago and had the nokia 3595, when I got a call with that it would make a buzzing sound in my pc speakers, tv, anything with a speaker. It does it with my motorola now, but only if I keep it very close to my computer.

Posted by: Tango Uniform

It's normal for GSM/TDMA phones to do this. For GSM the transmitter keys on about 200 times a second when it's active so it gets picked up by the speaker voice coil. The amplitude of the noise depends on the power level being used by the RF amplifier in the phone. If you keep the phone away from speakers (>5 feet or ~1.5 meters), you should be fine.

Tango Uniform

Posted by: cg1812

I have a V3 and it makes the same noise in the ear piece of the phone, any ideas.

Posted by: blkballoon925

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Originally Posted by cg1812

I have a V3 and it makes the same noise in the ear piece of the phone, any ideas.

I've had two like that. It seems to be some kind of defect in the phone. I've learned to live with it.

Posted by: EPVQ30

my tdma fons never did that.

Posted by: cg1812

Do you think its something that can be fixed by moto if I send it in they say all repairs are 75.oo dollars, are they repairing it or just send you a a refurbished phone. Or should i just goto moto's site and get the V3r.

Posted by: dami2550

No pun intended, but it amazes me that some people still don’t know that certain cell standards, like GSM, cause some, especially unshielded, speakers to make noise (people are wondering what is that), I’m more interested in how to prevent / shield it.

So far, no good solutions. “Interference is the price you pay for a more powerful signal”. I don’t totally agree with that, since different cellphones act differently on same speakers. I remember when I had my Sony Ericsson P800 (1st generation smartphone), I barely had any noise. Now with Treo 650 and especially with Cingular 8125 it’s way worse. However, signal seems to be the same whether it’s my old phone or new (I didn’t notice much difference between phone as to one working and the other won’t in the same spot).

I had a website once with radiation ratings on different phones, and yes, SE P800 was pretty low, while TREO 650 was very high - I guess that's what makes some phones generate more noise than others. What I don't get, is that those phones pretty much had same signal and didn't work in certain office areas (I swear we have lead roof in the office), so I can't really believe stronger signal / more noise idea.

I also had same radar detector problem people talked about before. It was T-mobile and BEL Pro 850 (or, 800). Laser would go off every time cell communicates with tower. I talked to BEL, and they admitted it's a problem, they have to put extra filters on the unit. Since I bought the unit on ebay (brand new), they didn't honor the warranty and I had to pay ~$100 to fix it. I paid $160 for the whole unit. So I exchanged it to Escort 8500 X50 and never had that problem again.
Funny thing, Cingular didn't do it, only T-Mobile.

I’m open to suggestions what to do with the noise.

Posted by: princeasi

Quote:

Originally Posted by dami2550

No pun intended, but it amazes me that some people still don’t know that certain cell standards, like GSM, cause some, especially unshielded, speakers to make noise (people are wondering what is that), I’m more interested in how to prevent / shield it.

So far, no good solutions. “Interference is the price you pay for a more powerful signal”. I don’t totally agree with that, since different cellphones act differently on same speakers. I remember when I had my Sony Ericsson P800 (1st generation smartphone), I barely had any noise. Now with Treo 650 and especially with Cingular 8125 it’s way worse. However, signal seems to be the same whether it’s my old phone or new (I didn’t notice much difference between phone as to one working and the other won’t in the same spot).

I had a website once with radiation ratings on different phones, and yes, SE P800 was pretty low, while TREO 650 was very high - I guess that's what makes some phones generate more noise than others. What I don't get, is that those phones pretty much had same signal and didn't work in certain office areas (I swear we have lead roof in the office), so I can't really believe stronger signal / more noise idea.

I also had same radar detector problem people talked about before. It was T-mobile and BEL Pro 850 (or, 800). Laser would go off every time cell communicates with tower. I talked to BEL, and they admitted it's a problem, they have to put extra filters on the unit. Since I bought the unit on ebay (brand new), they didn't honor the warranty and I had to pay ~$100 to fix it. I paid $160 for the whole unit. So I exchanged it to Escort 8500 X50 and never had that problem again.
Funny thing, Cingular didn't do it, only T-Mobile.

I’m open to suggestions what to do with the noise.

when I had the 8125, hw6515, mpx220, I enabled the manual network selection, and I would select the 2nd cingular selection, after that I would never get any type of gsm interference thru pc speakers or any other type of live speakers. It seems to me it the cingular network!

Posted by: blkballoon925

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Originally Posted by princeasi

The "other Cingular" was probably T-Mobile or another 1900 network in your area, while Cingular probably uses 850 there.

Posted by: dami2550

Is there a way to tell which freq are u using? I can only find 1 network, cingular, on my 8125.

Posted by: princeasi

Quote:

Originally Posted by blkballoon925

The "other Cingular" was probably T-Mobile or another 1900 network in your area, while Cingular probably uses 850 there.

I spoke with CS last night and he told that they operate majority on the 1900, but you never know with these reps!

Posted by: princeasi

Quote:

Originally Posted by dami2550

Is there a way to tell which freq are u using? I can only find 1 network, cingular, on my 8125.

you need to enable manual network selection thru the registry!

Posted by: blkballoon925

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Originally Posted by princeasi

I spoke with CS last night and he told that they operate majority on the 1900, but you never know with these reps!

It's hard to say. Most reps don't know which licenses Cingular operates on in each market. I don't blame them, it would be hard to remember even one region.
Go to www.americantowers.com. It will redirect you to the FCC's ULS and you can do a Geosearch for your county and find out which spectrum blocks Cingular has. CL and CW and cellular and PCS respectively.

Posted by: princeasi

Quote:

Originally Posted by blkballoon925

Thanx, will do!

Posted by: suzzyq11

I have a samsung 427 that make that noise when it is near my scanner or the tv or vcr but never in my car. The tv is where it is really bad. Its really loud and I hate it. I knew I couldnt be the only one who's phone does that......

Posted by: Topmounter

I have this problem regularly with my car stereo, television, office telephone, PC speakers, etc. and it makes me nuts since I can't always get the phone out of range. Some devices do seem to be more sensitive than others.

I'm using an HTC Wizard (same as the Cingular 8125) and it seems to be especially bad about causing this kind of interference.

I need to check the 1900 coverage in my area, but I may try a phone without 850 support to see if the trade-off is worth it.

Posted by: RyanM

I like it, it lets me know when an incoming text or call is on the way.... i dont think its really that bad here, but sometimes the tv goes nuts.

Posted by: MasonDoctorJT

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Originally Posted by burntrat

Mine does it right befor I recieve a call or text on our baby monitor. I like it, cause usually when our baby is sleeping we have our phones on vibrate only, which usually we miss calls because of this and many times the monitor makes noise right before the call and we get it. I haven't noticed it with other speakers though.

Posted by: Anzial

IMHO, it's normal, and really depends on the quality of the phone and the electronics at your home. I know that RAZR didn't produce so much inteference as SE810i does in my place.

Posted by: Kaymin

my dad's new v3xx does it whenever i'm using the internet on it

Posted by: puerrican5

It really depends on the quality of the speakers they are near. Put them next to cheap speakers and you'll go crazy. I own a logitech 5.1 speaker set that I have set up on my desk and never hear a single buzzing through out the 2 years I had these, while if i bring the phone next to a 1998 freebie speaker set that came with a a mini tv and you'll wanna kill yourself... well not literally but yea..

Best way to eliminate it is to just upgrade your speakers really, your phone will be your new tool to test quality if anything lol, if the speaker cant shield outside interference then that can say alot about them.

Posted by: Marks08

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Originally Posted by bobolito

So it gets louder when the phone gets closer to the speakers? Gee, I wonder if it is the phone that's causing that.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH wow!

Posted by: The SPCS Guy

lol! I hate it! Happens all the time. @ home @ work with my headset on, everywhere!
I hate the handoffs.

JE

Posted by: tostrstrudel

Lol, my phone does this all the time. Worse, the RF interference used to cause my cash register to crash when I worked at Target. I'd feel a vibration from a text and there'd be about a 30% chance of my register going black and having to be rebooted.

Posted by: dctmpeg

lol... I have a Canon GL-1 MiniDV camcorder. This and several other
decks I have tested will freak out if you place the RF too close to the
drum assembly. It confuses the heads and you can actually hear them
"jumping" around.. Of course, it also produces large dropouts in the
image. I wonder why.

The CCDs in the camcorder also are affected by producing horizontal
lines of coloured noise.

I have yet to try this with a heavier ENG-style DVCPRO deck. (eg: Panasonic AJD-215). Not that I would try it either..

Posted by: blkballoon925

Quote:

Originally Posted by dctmpeg

The CCDs in the camcorder also are affected by producing horizontal
lines of coloured noise.

My one TV used to do this, only when tuned to UHF 33 and only when on the PCS A Block (Cingular, at the time). Since then AT&T has re-channeled the nearby cell site and the colored noise stopped.

Posted by: timmah333

My iPhone hasn't been horrible with it, a little buzz every now and then, but the phone that I had that was the absolute worst was the k790a (great phone either way)... I could be 10 feet away from my subwoofer in my living room and you would hear the thing go nuts! I, too enjoyed it.. I used to mess with my friend because I could "predict" when i was getting a text message