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Posted by: KlamshellKing

Hey, i was going to buy a new normal phone but i have a v635. it does everything so i want one that can do AIM well. I was hoping to get one with a keyboard. I was thinking the kjam or wait for the 8125. i dont want the treo it looks wayyy to geeky/ugly. (i cant have it, im 15 id look like a loser) i want a keyboard, pretty good camera, aim with 200 buddies, and some web browsing and some emailing, and of course a good phone. SO far i was thinking the 8125, kjam, 2125, 6682, or 6515... someone please help me... thanks. i dont think the 8125 has any flaws so far for me, i love the design too...

Posted by: Cool6324

Nothing, compares to the sidekick. I don't even think the 8125 w/agilemessenger will compare to the sidekick (i have a pda, the agilemessenger app sux's). I'd just wait for the 8125 because even though it won't compare to the sidekick experience, its the closet option. BTW I'm a teen (16) I feel your pain, cingular doesn't have anything that will really satisfy your needs which is why I still have my sidekick.

Posted by: KlamshellKing

yea... i was planning on getting a sidekick also... but i dont want to have to carry two things. and tmobiles service sucks... so thats why i want a cingular one. why is cingular soooooooooooooooooooooooooo dumb??

Posted by: Cool6324

I always carry two things around, its like a daily thing for me. T-Mobile's service is great in nyc. Cingular isn't dumb, just they don't have a phone that targets teenagers. It's not hard carrying two things around, but I see another one of your choices 6515 if your willing to shell out cash buy it. But i'm telling you now agilemessenger sux's.

Posted by: KlamshellKing

tmobile is ok in nyc but sux compared to cingular... and i dont need agile messenger... aim has its on ppc program and its really good i think. but its sorta weird cuz than i wouldnt know which phone to send texts and stuff from. it would be cool if u could use the same number with both tho

Posted by: cjmedina

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What about the samsung phone full board built in im programs. No camera

Posted by: KlamshellKing

the no camera is killing me and i think its only 30 buddies

Posted by: JMBrown

I'm thinking your best choice would be a K-jam (or 8125 upon release) with Agile. Though Cool6324 seems to dislike that app, I used it on my 5600 for quite some time and was very pleased. I dont know how well it runs on PPCs though, so it may not be so great with a k-jam. In any event, I dont think a 2125 or 6682 will do the job for you. If you plan on using AIM, DO NOT get the 2125, it has been nearly impossible to find an AIM app for this phone. And I have used the 6682 and it's keyboard is a little too cramped for extended IMing.

Posted by: OYSTER RSX

yea t-mo service is terrible compared to cingulars out here on the island, but i deal with it since its the best thing for what i need...unlimited data plan...

Posted by: dday64

Cant you just buy an unlocked Sidekick?

Posted by: jmg_T21

But it won't take advantage of everything it can do... proprietary t-mobile services & settings.

Treo 650 refurbished? At $139.99 IMO it's a STEAL.

Posted by: Binx75075

Or the LG 9300?

http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=763213

I am going to buy a Palm Treo 650 Refurb on Friday when my paycheck hits my account. I am just keeping my fingers crossed until then!

Posted by: jbeef86

I have Cingular for my phone and a Sidekick for my emails and IM's. I hate carrying two devices around and I am letting a buddy of mine use my sidekick right now. The sidekick is awesome though. The keyboard is nice and the device is perfect for everything I need in a device except for making calls. The email is real cool....you can set it up for google email and yahoo if u pay for the pop email service. Its a very cool device but I would hate making calls on it. If you can live with hauling around the 2 I would definitely say go for it. I have had a couple problems with it though. Internet is slowwwwwwwww and pretty much a waste of time. The sidekick runs its apps on the Danger network not tmobile. Tmobile is used for the phone, texts and internet I believe but of course I could be wrong about the internet part. Email and IMs are done through Danger and sometimes Dangers network is down. There was a point last year when it was down for about 5 days straight and that sucked because like I said I dont use it for my voice calls so it was pretty much a nice cool device but didnt work. Since then its been fine.

Posted by: OYSTER RSX

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Originally Posted by jbeef86

I have Cingular for my phone and a Sidekick for my emails and IM's. I hate carrying two devices around and I am letting a buddy of mine use my sidekick right now. The sidekick is awesome though. The keyboard is nice and the device is perfect for everything I need in a device except for making calls. The email is real cool....you can set it up for google email and yahoo if u pay for the pop email service. Its a very cool device but I would hate making calls on it. If you can live with hauling around the 2 I would definitely say go for it. I have had a couple problems with it though. Internet is slowwwwwwwww and pretty much a waste of time. The sidekick runs its apps on the Danger network not tmobile. Tmobile is used for the phone, texts and internet I believe but of course I could be wrong about the internet part. Email and IMs are done through Danger and sometimes Dangers network is down. There was a point last year when it was down for about 5 days straight and that sucked because like I said I dont use it for my voice calls so it was pretty much a nice cool device but didnt work. Since then its been fine.

yup same thing hear i hate carrying around 2 phones in my case now i have to carry around 3 bc cingular is my personal cell, t mo is my personal thing for email text messages aim etc...and my nextel is for my business its rough...

Posted by: jbeef86

damn thats alot of equipment.....my brain is already fried I dont think all those devices would help that. If I wasnt a computer person who did it for a living and didnt have access to emails and im's pretty much all day I would definitely be using my sidekick. For 35 bucks a month there isnt a better device with those options around. Unlimited text messages, emails, im's, and internet......there is nothing comparable. My contract for the sidekick expires this year.....still debating on keeping it or getting rid of it. I think the coolest thing about the sidekick is that it has never crashed or frozen up on me like alot of other devices you hear always hear about.

Posted by: microchip13

Wow. Alot of teens here.

I'm 15.

Wait for the 8125, it looks awesome except for the fact that it runs windows.
If you really want to wait a while, wait fot the E61.

Posted by: brewm12

finally a thread for me. i'm 15 and i had a sidekick2 for about a week and then i decided i shouldnt have 2 devices (one for voice, one for data). I need something that is a comprimise of both. I have considered the cingular 2125 but would much rather go for the 8125. I have had a sidekick 2,a blackberry 7290, a nokia 6682 (hated it), a RAZR V3, and a motorola MPx220. I send an average of 30 txt's per day. i like to have email on my phone and i would love the big touch screen of the 8125. It kinda sucks that cingular doesnt have any smartphones/pdaphones targetted twords teens. The treo 650 is cool but its ugly, geeky, and way to big for my pocket. The sidekick2 didnt get good enough service eaither. I have 8000 rollover minutes so i would like one device for phone and data and i am sick of having 2.

THIS SUCKKSS UGGHGHH

Posted by: microchip13

The Treo 650 is smaller than the Sidekick, has faster data, expandable memory, and bluetooth. Who cares if it looks too geeky. It gets the job done.

Posted by: brewm12

i'm 15 though. everyone will make fun of me and be like WTF YOUR SUCH A RICH ***** BLAH BLAH BLAH. i want something thats great with AIM and texting and stuff and i don't really want a treo.

Posted by: brewm12

i wish cingular made a smaller better sidekick...

Posted by: KlamshellKing

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Originally Posted by brewm12

i wish cingular made a smaller better sidekick...

wow yo. were exactly the same. all of us. were all 15 (well ill be 15 in two weeks exactly) i really want to get a 8125 but i have a ppc and freezes it a lot. thats why im scared. idk. someone just tell me any experiences they have. thanks

Posted by: cjmedina

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Originally Posted by brewm12

i'm 15 though. everyone will make fun of me and be like WTF YOUR SUCH A RICH ***** BLAH BLAH BLAH. i want something thats great with AIM and texting and stuff and i don't really want a treo.

im not 15 but im not far off im 25. but my point is who cares if they make fun of you. theyre is always some one whos going to make fun of you. i would get the treo that phones nice. i have had a bunch of phones and i like it the most by far. i work in construction so theyre is always some guy giving me a hard time about my treo. like i really care. i like the phone thats all that matters to me. thats my 2 cents

Posted by: brewm12

yeah but also i don't really like palm os. i wish the Treo 700w was availble for cingular

Posted by: brewm12

also, the cingular 8125 is smaller then the treo and the keyboard looks a little better, also palm OS looks so plain, WM05 looks colorful and interesting. In addition, the palm os is pretty old and plain. WM05 is new. which is a plus i think?

Posted by: KlamshellKing

two reasons why i dont want the treo are that the camera is bad and it doesnt look cool personally. i dont wanna carry a device that i dont like. i may consider buying one for cheap if i can find one

Posted by: brewm12

you can get a treo 650 for $139.99 from ciingular (refurb) with a new service contract.

Posted by: blkcingularazr

One problem with buying a Sidekick from cingular, they don't make them and sidekicks are for T-mobile only, which sucks because in my area T-Mobile barely has coverage. I want one bad, considering getting one on a T-Mobile to go plan later on, but I just got into a contract with cingular, and I love my black razr, but that service problem is holding me back from getting t-mobile. Grrr!

Posted by: blkcingularazr

By the way, I'm only 13.

Posted by: JMBrown

ok first off, everyone please stop double posting, if you have something else to say and no one else has posted after you, just edit your first post. Second, I didn't realize this forums catered to so many 15 year olds, and finally, if I were you, I would wait for the cingular 8125. IMO, its the closest you will come to a "Cingular Sidekick"; however, if you ask me, this will look no less geeky or whatever than a treo.

Posted by: KlamshellKing

i dont like the treo because the lack of multitasking, the bad camera, and i like how the 8125 looks. i really like the nice slide out keyboard too

Posted by: brewm12

i like how the 8125 looks too, but i don't like the non cingular branded versions, like the Qtek, and the K-Jam

Posted by: triple5soul8781

although the sidekick seems great (had one for a year) the reception is so terrible. IMO if you want an AIM phone go get one of those "ampd mobile" phones. Verizons network (good) and unlimited text is only like 10$ a month. Otherwise if you wanna stick with cingular get the f9200

Posted by: pauldg

just saw the qtek version today in person for the first time. gotta say i like it a lot more than i thought, but the keboard from the cingular version look nicer/easier? guy said it got MUCH better RF than his SMT5600. this thing is way smaller than i thought

Posted by: trim99

NOTHING beats a Treo w/ Chatter email + Verichat

Google those programs mentioned.

'Nuff Said.

Posted by: brewm12

uhh cept' the treo is ugly and big

Posted by: trim99

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Originally Posted by brewm12

uhh cept' the treo is ugly and big

You're kidding me?

I think the TREO 650/700 looks MUCH NICER than an ugly sidekick.

Nothing beats a Treo with convergence...and 1 handed operation.

I like the 8125 (and plan on getting it when released..mainly for the WIFI)...think it's better looking than a Qtek 9100/ K-Jam in my opinion

To each his own, I guess.

Posted by: brewm12

yes i agree about the sidekick. but the 8125 is much nicer looking

if the 8125 doesnt come out in 3 weeks i will end up getting the treo 650

the reason i have to stay with cingular is because i have 8000 rollover minutes

and i don't want 2 seperate devices

Posted by: trim99

Quote:

Originally Posted by brewm12

yes i agree about the sidekick. but the 8125 is much nicer looking

if the 8125 doesnt come out in 3 weeks i will end up getting the treo 650

the reason i have to stay with cingular is because i have 8000 rollover minutes

and i don't want 2 seperate devices

I guess we can both agree the 8125 looks pretty dam sweet. But the 2 handed operation is kind of throwing me off.. (will be hard to reply to texts/email while driving)

OT: 8000 ROLLOVER!? wowww

Don't minutes start to expire in 12 months?

How much monthly is your plan if you don't mind me asking?

Posted by: brewm12

i am on a family plan and its like 90 a month for the whole family and my 19.99 unlimited data. the voice plan is a very old voice plan from when cingular first started. this plan is not availble now but if i change it i will not be able to return to this wonderfull plan. My dad pays for it

Posted by: brewm12

and there are 3 lines on this plan

Posted by: annapink15

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Originally Posted by Binx75075

Or the LG 9300?

http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=763213

I am going to buy a Palm Treo 650 Refurb on Friday when my paycheck hits my account. I am just keeping my fingers crossed until then!

On the lg the buttons look kindof small i think.

Posted by: brewm12

the treo 700w is the best alternative to the sidekick because it has great features and WM05 and a QWERTY keyboard and a 1.3 MP camera. does anyone know if this is going to be released for cingular?

Posted by: VanillaGorilla

Is anyone else just shaking their head at the thought of teens NEEDING these high-featured phones?

Christ, my kids will get a firefly and that's it. You ain't texting, you ain't taking for hours with your friends, and when you pay the bill you can call someone other than me for a ride! Now stop cryin and go do your homework!!!

MtA

Posted by: 2k1s

IMO smart phones really aren't worth the price... I got all mine for next to nothing. Getting a smart phone for a teenager is kindof rediculous. Samsung has a phone that has a qwerty keyboard, but the UI sucks. I've had every phone cingular has, thats worth having. I don't know if they have a AIM ap for the 8700c yet, but I personally love that phone. I constantly switch back to it, and I've got a treo 650, ipaq6515, nokia 6682, smt 5600, and a BB 8700c.

I really don't think you need to have AIM on your phone. It doesn't even work that well, and a data package ain't worth it just for AIM. Just use text messages.

Posted by: blkcingularazr

I don't even know how to do this stuff, but the Sidekick II is awesome, good keyboard, nice large screen that opens really cool, and it looks awesome anyway.

Posted by: Omega2008

Wow.....Hofo turned into a daycare hahahahaha. Anywho...the 8125 will be overkill for anybody who DOES NOT need PDA functions......its throwing money away if you just want the keyboard and the IM app.

Posted by: KlamshellKing

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Originally Posted by Omega2008

Wow.....Hofo turned into a daycare hahahahaha. Anywho...the 8125 will be overkill for anybody who DOES NOT need PDA functions......its throwing money away if you just want the keyboard and the IM app.

yea, im not getting a smartphone for now. i may get a treo once the newer ones get more popular and i can get one for really cheap. i just got a ppc and i nevvvver use it. im gonna sell it tommorow and probably use the money to get a treo or a laptop... thanks. i realized its too impractical to get a sidekick replacement. i should just goto tmobile if i want one that bad. thanks

Posted by: brewm12

i have decided to get the treo650 from cingular with my upgrade. by the time they have the next treo with 3G i will be eligible with an upgrade. to get the rebate on my treo do i have to sign up for the PDA data or can i lie and sign up for the 19.99 unlimited data and still get the rebate?

Posted by: FinalDraftGRFX

Obviously the 8125 is anyone's best bet. That's the one I'm waiting for too. WHENEVER ITS RELEASED!!

I've gone from a Motarola Timeport 2way to a Sidekick2, to a Treo 650 (which I hated)

Check out the Sony Ericsson P910a. I'm undecided between that and the 8125 because of the great reviews and I hear the the Symbian OS is a lot more stable the Pocket PC. Only thing it lacks for me is no Edge or WiFi. But no big deal since I've lived with the sidekick for so long.

So check it out. Sony Ericsson P910a.

Posted by: DruB

you must sign up for the 39.99 data plan to get the mail in rebate on the treo

Posted by: triple5soul8781

ill admitt im a kid, and i want the fancy stuff, ive been through tons of phones form ebay and such but when it comes down to the nitty gritty all i need is call/text. I mean the otherstuff is cool but unless you have no life and time to play with all that its not worth it. Even with the rokr i have i barely even use the mp3.

Posted by: brewm12

yes i just ordered my new treo 650 and im going to get the 700w when it comes out for cingular using someone in my family's upgrade. The treo650 is known as one of the best smartphones around and i am happy with my decision. i would also much rather have the treo 700w then the cingular 8125, but thats my opinion.

--thanks for all the help people..

Posted by: StattlichPassat

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cool6324

Nothing, compares to the sidekick.

*cough*

Sidekicks are for kids and HiltonLohan posers. Real business professionals and tech-heads know where it's at.

Posted by: 2k1s

Quote:

Originally Posted by StattlichPassat

*cough*

Sidekicks are for kids and HiltonLohan posers. Real business professionals and tech-heads know where it's at.

lol I prefer the 8700c. BTW does blackberry messenger work like aim? I was looking at the blackberry website and for somereason cingular doesn't support blackberry messenger on the 8700

Posted by: Mykeee

The HTC Wizard (qtek 9100, kjam, 8125, etc.) will definately not be a replacement of a sidekick, at all. You want it for AIM? Why are you going to IM someone that you can call or txt? Only time I go on AIM with my 9100 is when I want to see if someone is online and can check something online for me. Going online with the Wizard, it's only good if your looking at wap pages or pages designed for mobile devices, otherwise it'll take minutes and minutes to find what you're looking for. And if anything, I'd call someone before going on AIM. As much as I love the ooh's and aah's of having a device a lot haven't seen before I hate this thing as a phone. I have to reset the thing whenever I want to go on the internet (i rarely use it for emails or the internet anymore) and even if I wanted to stay on AIM I get logged off time after time after time. If anything the treo650 with verichat worked better as a IM'ing client rather than the wizard. I'm waiting for a n80 so I can have a phone first device again that can view word, excel documents and also has 3g.

Oh and like stated earlier, the reason why sidekicks can stay on AIM forever is because of dangers side of things. So with cingular, you'll be connecting and reconnecting a bunch of times. It happened with the Treo and with the wizard.

Posted by: jbeef86

all right I am going to get really lit up here but it needs to be said.

There is no other device that does AOL IM, Yahoo IM and emails anything close to what the Sidekick II does. I am talking about one device that does that and does it extremely well and the phone is not too bad except for the tmobile service. You never lose connection to AOL IM when Dangers network is up and Yahoo IM is almost as good but I did have 1 connection problem 1 time. If you want a device that does AOL, Yahoo, AOL email, regular emails then there is nothing that beats it. Its really a toy but a cool toy where you dont have to be sitting at a computer to keep in touch with IM and email.

If you want these 3 things in one device there is nothing better.

almost forgot that their data plan is cheap 32 bucks for unlimited. much cheaper than any other data plan that I have seen or heard of. the internet sucks on this thing though.....very slow.

flame on.......

Posted by: trim99

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbeef86

all right I am going to get really lit up here but it needs to be said.

There is no other device that does AOL IM, Yahoo IM and emails anything close to what the Sidekick II does. I am talking about one device that does that and does it extremely well and the phone is not too bad except for the tmobile service. You never lose connection to AOL IM when Dangers network is up and Yahoo IM is almost as good but I did have 1 connection problem 1 time. If you want a device that does AOL, Yahoo, AOL email, regular emails then there is nothing that beats it. Its really a toy but a cool toy where you dont have to be sitting at a computer to keep in touch with IM and email.

If you want these 3 things in one device there is nothing better.

flame on.......

Curious how you based your decision. Have you ever trie/used a Treo 650 w/ ChatterEmail and Verichat?

It does EVERYTHING you mentioned above -AND MORE!

Better gripes in a Treo 650 vs Sidekick II

--faster EDGE web browsing
--(with ChatterEmail) MULTIPLE TRUE PUSH EMAIL (not only a single tmail.com..but unlimited mailboxes)
--ability to ADD FREE MP3's/Movies/Games/etc
--Verichat stays ALWAYS ON -as it is also running a 3rd party Proxy (same concept with Danger)
--MUCH better Screen resolution

All in all, the Treo kills the sidekick.

Only thing I can find argumentive is, the intelliscync feature Sidekick has (which is way cool) and...a two handed keyboard (personally I dislike the keyboard, and rather use a one-hander like the Treo.

Posted by: jbeef86

I never said all in all its better than a treo. All I said is that there is nothing better for AOL, Yahoo and email in one if thats mainly what you want it for. I know the treo kills it in apps and add ons but there is a price...literally you have to pay for the apps. For mp3s to play as ringtones on the treo dont u need a 3rd party app which costs money? ChatterEmail $39.00, Verichat $24.95 for one year then you have to pay yearly. You didn't add that in your post. Apps need to be downloaded to the Sidekick but they are free for the yahoo, aol and aol email.

I can get my tmail, google mail and yahoo mail just the same as the tmail.

How much is the unlimited data plan for a treo?

Posted by: Mykeee

verichat on my 650 would disconnect whenever I lost signal, how else would it stay on? a verichat proxy? nope... I had a treo and it is not a sidekick killer as it is like comparing apples and oranges.

Posted by: trim99

Mykee: Verichat would lose signal if you set it for DATA only. If you setup SMS and DATA, it will have a 100% keep-alive feature

Unlmited Data, for Treo's: Cingular- Media Net $19.99, T-Mobile- $19.99, and Sprint- (forgot) but like $15 bucks or something.

THE CHEAPEST PLAN (which includes minutes) to-date on a Treo is the Employee SERO plan. Which includes: 500 Anytime Minutes, Unlimited N/w, and FREE Unlimited POwer Vision ...all for $30 bucks!

Agreed that SDK II and Treos are not entirely the same, but they are not in different leagues, nor are they different beasts. (not apples to oranges). One does exactly what the other does.

Now if you wish to compare it to a Blackberry....then yes they are more versatile and are in totally different leagues.

Hands down, a Treo will kill a sidekick.

Posted by: I have a phone

good and Sidekick. Oxymoron?

Posted by: trim99

Quote:

Originally Posted by I have a phone

good and Sidekick. Oxymoron?

huh??

Posted by: JMBrown

Quote:

Originally Posted by trim99

huh??

He's saying that the words "sidekick" and "good" are oxymorons...that they are opposites. Simply...he's saying the sidekick sucks.

(i agree)

Posted by: trim99

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JMBrown

Quote:

Originally Posted by trim99

huh??

He's saying that the words "sidekick" and "good" are oxymorons...that they are opposites. Simply...he's saying the sidekick sucks.

(i agree)

I agree too. (lol)

IF the sidekick is smaller and has a better screen res, I would consider it.

for now, its a giant brink to me...

Posted by: I have a phone

Quote:

Originally Posted by JMBrown

He's saying that the words "sidekick" and "good" are oxymorons...that they are opposites. Simply...he's saying the sidekick sucks.

(i agree)

darn it. I thought it would take longer for someone to figure it out.

I'm glad that others understand this

Posted by: Mykeee

Quote:

Originally Posted by trim99

Mykee: Verichat would lose signal if you set it for DATA only. If you setup SMS and DATA, it will have a 100% keep-alive feature

Well yeah, in this case. But then you'd use up all your txt messages. I'd rather just have it data only.

Posted by: blkcingularazr

Sidekicks look cool but they are bricks! Have you ever held one? My god.

Posted by: triple5soul8781

yeah i had one for a while.. They are big.But if you get decent service (i didnt) its great to have. I loved it but service was the issue

Posted by: tuolumne

The SGH-i300 is where it's at

Posted by: JDyn84

I feel you all on the need for Cingular to get a phone targeted to txters. I'm probably going to end up getting a Tmobile a630 and unlocking it to get the fix that I need.

Posted by: MarloLGF9200

My cuz just gave me an LG F9200 for Easter. I love it. It has the full keyboard, camera w/4x zoom, internet. Everything I use several times a day. It's the best gift I've recieved.

Posted by: raz01r

This is the reason why I'm leaving Cingular and getting the Helio Ocean as soon as it comes out.
http://www.helio.com/page?p=devices_ocean_static&