MDA Tips, Tricks, Hacks, and Questions Thread!!!

Originally Posted by jonazen

I grew up on the first Star Trek (along with Outer Limits, Twilight Zone, etc)...I like the SciFi theme, but the Star Trek theme looks a bit 2-dimensional for me...not sure I like it as much. I lean towards glassy 3D stuff like Vista Light at this point.

Not sure what my next theme set will be...but I can tell that I'm going to want to change skins periodically!

Originally Posted by MadDogX007

Interesting skins. I really like the one I got now. But would not mind trying something really cool. I checked out the link cool, what are the vista light and do u hve links like I3onk gave?

Originally Posted by jonazen

I probably have links somewhere...but I'm totally inundated right now with links, files, a bazillion download directories and files, stacks of notes on my desk, etc. Need to wade through all of this and make some sense of it. I'll see what I can find and pass it along. I'm just glad that you're not drowning and waiting for me to find and throw you a life preserver from among the piles on my desk!

Originally Posted by MadDogX007

Take ur time, I am really happy with my skin at moment.

Originally Posted by MadDogX007

Interesting skins. I really like the one I got now. But would not mind trying something really cool. I checked out the link cool, what are the vista light and do u hve links like I3onk gave?

Originally Posted by robpet2

they just showed a commercial for the unlimited any messages for 9.99 a month

http://www.pocketpcmag.com/_archive...hatsonline.aspx

Originally Posted by jonazen

I won't touch that one... ...getting a bit personal for me!

Originally Posted by i3onk

Hey Maddog, Delete some of your PM's man. You are full and cant accept anymore.

Originally Posted by whodatfever

Where is a good website to download older versions of Pocket PC software?

Originally Posted by MadDogX007

Another note about Spb Pocket Plus..

I removed the weather from the Spb Plus tabs, cause it made little sense, and besides you lost the spin of the little world when updating weather. But this evening it occured to me to put Diary in the Spb PP tabs. After all Diary is 5 icons anyway. But that did something interesting. First it immediately gave me tons of room on Today screen to enlarge my icons. 2nd, for unknown reasons it increased my RAM to just over 20MB, and even saw just over 21 MB's :-) Not just that but on soft reset I was getting about 17MB, now a little over 18-19, and with a tiny help from SKRam Up a wini tiny over 21MB's. Just when I thought it was over for me. hehehe. Life is better boys!

Here are some quick shots.







Don't ask me what that cut out line is on top of my skin, still trying to figure it out.

Originally Posted by MadDogX007

I have put this up a few times but no one ever gives feed back, Good luck

http://ppcsoft.org/downloadss/games/

Originally Posted by robpet2

good looking out on this link .....


got a question though , i had to reinstall opera and i forgot how to make all downloads and cache go to the sdcard instead of my mda internal memory.... can someone help me out

Originally Posted by i3onk

You are kidding about the dotted bar on top right? Thats your battery meter man.

Originally Posted by nyvram

Now for something useful...

Anyone used this before?

http://www.skweezer.net/

VERY VERY VERY cool. Almost makes CNN.com enjoyable on your MDA..."almost".

Good bookmark to keep handy for those oh-so-unfriendly websites that don't like our phones.

PS Wanna hear a joke about a man who liked to pet fish? Well it goes something like this...

Originally Posted by i3onk

You are kidding about the dotted bar on top right? Thats your battery meter man.

Originally Posted by MadDogX007

What do you mean by downloads, a little confused. Are u installing from active sync? or a cabfile? Well it does not really matter cause either way from ActiveSync or Cab install you should be prompted by MW5 to install to memory or storage? Are you not getting that prmpt? As far as cache are you talking about pie or something? What cache?

Also clarify "good looking out on this link ....." Sorry bro maybe it's me I'm getting old

Originally Posted by MadDogX007

Be kind to me bro! Hey I told you Im human. I have seen skins that have that, but this offers no purpose that I can see. The bars are always the same color?

Either I don't pay attention to it often, or it doesn't seem to be working. How do u get rid of it! It's taking up a tiny space. Did I accidentally enable it? Or is it automatic with WA2?

Originally Posted by MadDogX007

Another note about Spb Pocket Plus..

I removed the weather from the Spb Plus tabs, cause it made little sense, and besides you lost the spin of the little world when updating weather. But this evening it occured to me to put Diary in the Spb PP tabs. After all Diary is 5 icons anyway. But that did something interesting. First it immediately gave me tons of room on Today screen to enlarge my icons. 2nd, for unknown reasons it increased my RAM to just over 20MB, and even saw just over 21 MB's :-) Not just that but on soft reset I was getting about 17MB, now a little over 18-19, and with a tiny help from SKRam Up a wini tiny over 21MB's. Just when I thought it was over for me. hehehe. Life is better boys!

Here are some quick shots.







Don't ask me what that cut out line is on top of my skin, still trying to figure it out.

Originally Posted by whodatfever

Best program to free up available space and memory? I've seen a few and I'm lookin for 1 that does it the best.


Aaaaaaaaallllllso...In contacts, when a new contact is added, is there any way to prevent it from breaking the alphabetical listing and showing up at the top?

Originally Posted by i3onk

The way I get my most used contacts to show up at the top of the contacts list is to put a # in front of the name.

#Melissa# si what I have for my GF. I put the # at the end just for symmetry.

Originally Posted by whodatfever

WHAT THE????!! I just downloaded SKTools from Handango for $9.00 and after I installed it it tells me I have a demo version and to enter the registration code. I JUST PAID FOR IT! Has this happed to anyone else? They tell me it will be 2 business days before anyone can respond to my email. What a crock!

Originally Posted by i3onk

Did you check your email for the registration code? When you got the download link from handango there should have been a registration code next to the link, they will also send you an email within a few minutes with the same information on it.

Originally Posted by whodatfever

It's been an hour now and no email!

Originally Posted by i3onk

Go abck to handango.com and check your account. There should be a link to your downloads in it and it should have yoru reg. code

Originally Posted by i3onk

Alot of us use sktools for freeing up our ram. There is an app inside of it called freeup ram that works great. I have it mapped to the voice record button, push and hold action.

The way I get my most used contacts to show up at the top of the contacts list is to put a # in front of the name.

#Melissa# is what I have for my GF. I put the # at the end just for symmetry.

Originally Posted by whodatfever

Dammit if you aren't the best!
Where is that memory free-up program? I only see "Memory usage". Should I have installed the other files that came with the purchase? They look like language files

And by the way THANKS AGAIN!!!

Originally Posted by OwensStr8Clowni

Ok, So I just got my MDA (AGAIN) and I want to know some good apps and some good things to have on it.

1.AIM program

2. REG EDI

3. Whatever you guys think is good.

Originally Posted by Nasty111

1 question......if i put my ringtones on my storage card to save memory on the mda is there any way of the ringtone still workin for each indivdual person??.....cuz i hav diff ringtones for diff ppl.....if u can help thnx....the post above is a big help to kno wut to put on the storgae card and not.....thnx i3onk....

~Chris~

Originally Posted by Nasty111

also since i have all tha sofware lyk spb and games on my phone is there anyway to juss transfer them to the storage card without having to reinstall them??

Originally Posted by OwensStr8Clowni

Is AGILE the best possible choice for the AIM ? is it anything close to AIM on Sk2

Originally Posted by OwensStr8Clowni

Is AGILE the best possible choice for the AIM ? is it anything close to AIM on Sk2

Originally Posted by i3onk

LOL I know man, just messin with ya. I thought you knew what it was for. It is part of your sbp pocket plus. Its a battery meter. If you go into your SBP PP settings, it will be on the fist screen. Taskbar battery meter I think. Just uncheck the box.

Originally Posted by nyvram

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maddog, once again you rock! I went from 10.1mb avail to 11.2 just by adding diary to plus. keep in mind I haven't rebooted in a day or so...I`ll report back on reboot mem shortly.

Originally Posted by OwensStr8Clowni

Ok, So I just got my MDA (AGAIN) and I want to know some good apps and some good things to have on it.

1.AIM program

2. REG EDI

3. Whatever you guys think is good.

Originally Posted by nyvram

Something useful(?) Maybe not.

Whenever your phone uses VC to notify you of the most recent incoming call..it appears to save that last digitzed voice-notification in the following dir:

\Application Data\Volatile\TTSCallerID.wav

for instance is the last incoming call it announced to me.

Pretty cool if you wanted to take this file & use it somewhere. I had no idea it was creating WAV files when it was announcing things on the phone.

I suspect its because when a call is coming in, it announces the caller more than one time so it stores it as a 'playback file' to save on overhead.

(Just a theory).

Originally Posted by pmm0724

Is there any reason to need both?

Can MS Voice Command be installed to storage card?

Originally Posted by pmm0724

Is there any reason to need both?

Can MS Voice Command be installed to storage card?

Originally Posted by MadDogX007

Check this docking station for the MDA VArio, and alike..

http://www.mobis.com.tw/pk-01.htm

Originally Posted by MadDogX007

I am glad for choices. But that is the reason I never liked using the default Voice Speed Dial. It takes ups wav files. Can you imagine if you actually setup all your contacts with wav files? Not to mention the random needs to use a voice command on device.

I love Microsoft Voice Command. Does not require anything outside of installation. If I am driving around and need to call a random number, all I say is, "Dial 555-1212. You can't do that with Voice Dial. I have phone numbers in a spreadsheet, can call up the spread sheet with MSVC, briefly look at a number, and say, "dial 555-6363.

I can understand that VoiceDial is a Free Bee, sort of speaking, since I don't believe anything is free in this country, but MSVC is the best voicecommand system in the market. The flexibility is 2nd to none.

But that's my humble opionion of course.

Originally Posted by nyvram

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ummm. maddog...I`m talking about VC. you don't honestly think I`m using that built-in carp do you?

I was referring to the fact that VC generates that wav file after it announces a call on your phone...go look, you have that file on your phone and don't even know it!

Originally Posted by nyvram

Something useful(?) Maybe not.

Whenever your phone uses VC to notify you of the most recent incoming call..it appears to save that last digitzed voice-notification in the following dir:

\Application Data\Volatile\TTSCallerID.wav

for instance is the last incoming call it announced to me.

Pretty cool if you wanted to take this file & use it somewhere. I had no idea it was creating WAV files when it was announcing things on the phone.

I suspect its because when a call is coming in, it announces the caller more than one time so it stores it as a 'playback file' to save on overhead.

(Just a theory).

Originally Posted by jonazen

Does #Melissa# know about Notta???

Finally got around to getting SKTools just now and ran freeup ram - picked up about 2mb in 30 seconds - not bad! Checking out the optimizations now...

Thanks guys - had forgotten about this...

Originally Posted by i3onk

I run my pocket plus on my MiniSD. it works fine. I am actually concidering putting my pocket breeze and contact breeze on my MiniSD and checking ow that works out for me. I dont know though. I have my device running so smoothly right now. I think this is the smoothest I have had it runing yet. I have rebooted only once today, and when I did that I still had about 18.6M or RAM memory left. The only reason I rebooted was because I was testing a IR TV remote control app and it locked up on me. I boot up with almost 22M and after running the one app I run after boot up, (IM+) I have about 21.2M still remaining. I am about to make my FINAL backup for 2.17 ROM with 1.12 radio ROM. I ran this thing from 5AM this morning to about 6PM this evening, and still had about 17.6M left before installing the TV remote app and having to reboot. This ia afeter writing many emails, about 12 posts in various forums, about 50 txt messages to the GF and 4 phone calls. All of this done with BT always ON.

Originally Posted by i3onk

Thats a very nice dock. Unfortunatly I have no uise for it. I think it is more for the people that are avid MP3'rs. Very nice looking though none the less.

Originally Posted by MadDogX007

I know u bought a Doc statio a while back, so u don't have use for another, but hve been thinking about a little radio for my office, maybe this could be a good music player and hotsync. Just for thought, not sure though

Originally Posted by i3onk

See, now those of us that use that "BUILT IN CARP" arent so dumb now are we? LMAO j/k man. I love the built in. I dont need all the dial a number thing. I have my major contacts set to voice and all of their numbers. Speed dialing is what I have contact breexe for

Originally Posted by MadDogX007

Everything turned out o.k. I took MDA to TMO with receipt and ready for battle at a local shop that has techs, and the first thing they did, of course, is plug the original power to the MDA, and like magic green light came on. I never felt so happy .

It seems I am very stupid for a guy with all my experience, but human non the less . I know you may laugh but this could happen to someone else .

I got MDA less then 3 months ago, I can't remember that day how I charged it initially, but must have used original power. However, since then I have been charging MDA with my BT 500 headset charger, and in car I had bought from Radio Shack a charger that is very cool which changes heads for other devices, rather then keep buying new chargers. It seems they sold me the wrong head.

So I was chareging MDA all this time, almost 2.5 months later with .5 or less amps, rather then the manufacturer charge of 1amp. Hey I thought the darn plug looked the same , and battery always said charged 100%. So put the original MDA plug back in box.

But what I think happend is, The device was left on my desk without charging all night and for reasons not sure, but possibly related to the .5amps charging, battery got totally drained out.

Originally Posted by MadDogX007

Are u still running WA2?

Originally Posted by MadDogX007

Are u still running WA2?

Originally Posted by i3onk

Nope, I am using wisbar lite now. I miss the sound hook, but don't need the skins in exchabge for memory.

Originally Posted by whodatfever

Need to get an additional stylus for my MDA. I looked it up on ebay and none of those MDA stylus' look like the extendable kind I have. Where is a good (reliable) place to buy one?

Originally Posted by jonazen

BTW: I DID read that Wisbar Lite will be support WAD (wisbar advance desktop)...which is an interesting possibility. This means that you could conceivably skin EVERYTHING (entire desktop), have have several virtual pages - but built on a much lighter base that Wisbar Advance 2.

However...although the version of WL that's supposed to support WAD was planned for release a few weeks ago, I don't see any sign that it's out yet. Could be any day now...

Originally Posted by i3onk

Well the version I just downloaded last night, says it supports WAD. Ill check it out in a few inutes and get back to you guys.

Update: It does not support it. Lieing bastards lol. I guess he is still updating WAD to work properly with WBL. Guess we can just wait and see.

Originally Posted by jonazen

Turns out that the "support" info was a bit misleading. I posted the question at Lakeridge Software, and learned that the issue is with WAD, not WL. Seems that the latest beta of WAD works with WL. Haven't tried this yet ... looks like it will require some serious time investment... but I'm curious.

Still experimenting with lighter weight WA2 skins before giving up on it completely. Generally good results, except that it really seems to interfere with sounds on various odds ways still -- such as overriding my System Volume settings (from PZP) and forcing it to 1 ever time.

Can you check your system volume setting with WA2 installed, and see if it does this?

Originally Posted by robpet2

minimo is okay, its smoother than PIE but not as fast just a lil bit slower... viewing sceen for web page is smaller than all the rest of the browsers... has google built in ( but i havent changed to the new rom yet-dont want to void my warranty yet ), the screen can get larger for browsing by using stylus and holding it down against the screen where the extra toolbar is at...
www.minimo.com or go to www.freewareppc.com

Originally Posted by jonazen

Turns out that the "support" info was a bit misleading. I posted the question at Lakeridge Software, and learned that the issue is with WAD, not WL. Seems that the latest beta of WAD works with WL. Haven't tried this yet ... looks like it will require some serious time investment... but I'm curious.

Still experimenting with lighter weight WA2 skins before giving up on it completely. Generally good results, except that it really seems to interfere with sounds on various odds ways still -- such as overriding my System Volume settings (from PZP) and forcing it to 1 ever time.

Can you check your system volume setting with WA2 installed, and see if it does this?

Originally Posted by robpet2

has anyone tried the browser minimo? just downloaded it and some other games and apps for free...
DOPEWARS
CHESS
IGOLF
BEJEWELED
EARTHCOMBER (COOL APP SEE - WWW.EARTHCOMBER.COM )


BRB about to try minimo browser

Originally Posted by ilvla2

That Earthcomber looks pretty cool, but checking the site out it seems to only do big cities and metro areas, I live in a very rural area (Mendocino County) and travel in mostly rural and small/mid size towns here in NorCal, does it do those types of areas as well?

Originally Posted by jonazen

Turns out that the "support" info was a bit misleading. I posted the question at Lakeridge Software, and learned that the issue is with WAD, not WL. Seems that the latest beta of WAD works with WL. Haven't tried this yet ... looks like it will require some serious time investment... but I'm curious.

Still experimenting with lighter weight WA2 skins before giving up on it completely. Generally good results, except that it really seems to interfere with sounds on various odds ways still -- such as overriding my System Volume settings (from PZP) and forcing it to 1 ever time.

Can you check your system volume setting with WA2 installed, and see if it does this?

Originally Posted by i3onk

Still some glitches with WAD and WL. When you try to run it by going to next page ro previous page, it just brings up the task switcher from WL. I need to read the forums a little more to see if there is an explanation for this.

Originally Posted by whodatfever

Anybody else dissapointed in the 802.11b wireless range on the MDA? Speed is pretty good but the range kinda stinks.

Originally Posted by alinford

Can anyone confirm or deny whether MS VC works with blue tooth headsets? If it does not, are there any other options?

Originally Posted by Justice13

id really like to do these changes to my phone. Ive seen on other threads how to change the registry and make the volume for say better. How do I get to these registry keys. I'd really appreciate the help.

Originally Posted by Justice13

I know jonazen. Basically I just need to know how to get to the registry folder. Ive been looking for it all over the threads. Its talked about how to change it. But How do you get to it.

Originally Posted by Justice13

I know jonazen. Basically I just need to know how to get to the registry folder. Ive been looking for it all over the threads. Its talked about how to change it. But How do you get to it.

Originally Posted by Justice13

I know jonazen. Basically I just need to know how to get to the registry folder. Ive been looking for it all over the threads. Its talked about how to change it. But How do you get to it.

Originally Posted by alinford

Can anyone confirm or deny whether MS VC works with blue tooth headsets? If it does not, are there any other options?

Originally Posted by Justice13

id really like to do these changes to my phone. Ive seen on other threads how to change the registry and make the volume for say better. How do I get to these registry keys. I'd really appreciate the help.

Originally Posted by changogrande

Are you guys aware that Xelencin came out with a new 2.21 Custom ROM? If so, has anyone tried it yet?

Here's the thread:

http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=910661

Originally Posted by i3onk

Total commander works good too. Its free, and you can get to the registry and edit with it. As well as having an FTP. Wish I would have known all of this before bying resco, lol. Oh well live and learn.

Originally Posted by MadDogX007

Another pathetic question, but I was in the market for an FTP. Glad u mentioned that. But where is the FTP feature of commander?


And wht do u think of this new RUU upgrade to 2.2 or something? Is it worth it from 2.17? For more RAM I will give it a try.

Originally Posted by MadDogX007

Another pathetic question, but I was in the market for an FTP. Glad u mentioned that. But where is the FTP feature of commander?


And wht do u think of this new RUU upgrade to 2.2 or something? Is it worth it from 2.17? For more RAM I will give it a try.

Originally Posted by i3onk

If you hit the \ it will take you to your root directory. The double tap the \\ at the top of that list and you will get to the ftp, lan and registry folders.

As far as 2.2. I did a quick read about whats new with it. It seamed like all he did was changed some of the extended rom files. I may be wrong on that. Im fine with 2.17 and the 1.12 radio rom.

Originally Posted by i3onk

If you hit the \ it will take you to your root directory. The double tap the \\ at the top of that list and you will get to the ftp, lan and registry folders.

As far as 2.2. I did a quick read about whats new with it. It seamed like all he did was changed some of the extended rom files. I may be wrong on that. Im fine with 2.17 and the 1.12 radio rom.

Originally Posted by Nasty111

alright so i got my MDA about 2 weeks ago and decided to buy a sandisk 1gb mini sd....so i put all my programs such as; spb backup, spb weather, spb pcoket plus, agile, opera web browser, and a few games.....and i have them all installed on the storage card which is great....

The thing is my MDA is still running slow....sometimes someone will call me and it will juss freeze and i wont b able to answer the phone or anything and then i have to soft reset it....i noticed that my program memory is the standard 44.08mb and i usually have about 20mb free....i was wondering if there was anyway to move some memory from my storage card in order to help the programs run smoother....or if theres any other way that i can speed this baby up or at least not have it crash at least once every day sometimes twice....i have the opac overclocking program and i use it sometimes but then forget to start it again after my mda goes on stand by and it resets to its default 180mhz....

One other thing that happens is out of no where a windows sync screen will appear stating the last time i synced my pc with the MDA and then wont allow me to do nutting else the screen juss freezes up.....its annoying and happens often....anyway i can turn this off??....

IF anyone has similar problems or has ideas or a solution to any of these problems i would greatly appreciate it if they would assist me in this.....thanx

~Chris~

Originally Posted by jonazen

I downloaded it for safekeeping, and might get around to trying it. But as I recall, it's the same radio and OS as in our 2.17 version, so those parts won't change (not positive, but pretty confident this is right as per xelencin's posts on xda-developers.com).

Part of the reason to try it would be that he's worked on making this version tighter and cleaner than the 2.17 install, and reportedly you wind up with more available working memory than with the 2.17 install. Again - this is off the top of my head, no 100% positive, but pretty sure this is right.

Originally Posted by jonazen

I downloaded it for safekeeping, and might get around to trying it. But as I recall, it's the same radio and OS as in our 2.17 version, so those parts won't change (not positive, but pretty confident this is right as per xelencin's posts on xda-developers.com).

Part of the reason to try it would be that he's worked on making this version tighter and cleaner than the 2.17 install, and reportedly you wind up with more available working memory than with the 2.17 install. Again - this is off the top of my head, no 100% positive, but pretty sure this is right.

What I'd really like to do is learn how to make my own CAB's and custom ROM installers with all my own favorite software...

Originally Posted by changogrande

That's the reason I would try it, for more working memory. After soft reset, I only get 16, sometimes 17MB, depending on the weather I think (j/k). After FreeUp RAM, I only get 1MB more. I'm thinking of trying the 2.21, then varying the order that I install software.

Re the radio, it's the same as in 2.17; but the OS is 2.21.4.1 vs 2.17.7.2 in 2.17 (although I don't know if that means much!)

Originally Posted by MadDogX007

Im not quite sure Im conviced of that. Cause if you read all the posts for the 2.2 some people are claiming 20MB's after upgrade. Well on a good day, playing around with MDA I may get 20MB. I would be happy if that was a consistent number, cause I am not convinced that is determined by the 2.2. I believe it's determined by what you have installed, and in what order, what configuration. I mean I can remove WA2 and get 2 mgs back. The only solution for me is a device with 128MB RAM, not another ROM upgrade. Unless TMO comes up with big changes in future official ROM. I would be a believer, cause like u I boot up with 18 or less, started out this week great, but something again is eating up my memory. I would be happy with 20MB free after soft reset consistantly.

Originally Posted by MadDogX007

Im not quite sure Im conviced of that. Cause if you read all the posts for the 2.2 some people are claiming 20MB's after upgrade. Well on a good day, playing around with MDA I may get 20MB. I would be happy if that was a consistent number, cause I am not convinced that is determined by the 2.2. I believe it's determined by what you have installed, and in what order, what configuration.

Originally Posted by UncleDannie

I just bought the MDA today from http://www.howardforums.com/wirele...CFTKJCwodJGWD-w, got it for $250 but they gave me $325 back, so I made $75. Kinda nice. I had to sign up for the $29 data plan, but only for 4 months. Phone suppose to be here on Thursday.

Looking forward to learning all the ins and outs of this phone. Sounds like a lot of capable people hang out here. Currently have the Treo 650 with Verizon, but really unhappy with the new 700p (crippled by Verizon), so jumped ship to T-Mobile.

Originally Posted by SuperRob64

What I don't understand is why you wouldn't just do a hard reset and then not install anything ... run the device for a couple days on a flat ROM and see how the RAM reacts. If the memory leak persists, then you know it's in the OS and not your apps.

If the leak goes away, load your most important program next. Run it for a couple of days, and if you're still good, load the next important. This will help isolate what's causing the leak. Trust me, all of the "must have" software people have on their phone is anything but. You'd be surprised what you'll live without when you figure out it's got a memory leak in it.

Originally Posted by MadDogX007

Rom 2.2 update ***News***

So far I can't say I have noticed a tremendous difference between th 2.17 and 2.2 ROM. But if I can keep the Ram consistent I will be very happy with upgrade. I am trying to restore my device when time permits, like juggling apples.. But so far I have loaded, in this order, WA2, MSVC, Spb Pocket Plus, Spb Diary, Tray Launcher and Spb Weather, Spb Backup. All in ROM. I feel these are very important to my daily routines now and are the biggest memory hoggers. Plus I don't want to hassle re loading them, so they will be in my 1st new Spb Backup self extract image.

WA2 took almost 3MB's to load. I started at over 26, by time WA2 loaded it saw just over 22. I started first by loading Tweak2k2 to hack registry with things like "Don't Delete my Cab Files", when happy removed Tweak2k2.

So far my soft resesets are a little higher then 19MB's, but with SKRam UP Im getting consistently 20.5MB. I also noticed every icon I place with Tray Launcher MB's reduce a little, this can add up with 10 icons. So I may just be placing those icons in TL I really use, like commander, OmapClock, etc.

I can't say for sure yet, but noticed when i close an app, I get back the 20.5MB's. Before with 2.17 I got back some but not all. Not sure if this is cause it's new install, or what, but will keep my eye on it now seriously. Cause I was down with 2.17 to 13MB on soft reset, and sometimes 17. And as Jonazen, and I3onk now me, I have gone through many cold boots to get my device looking the way I want, and have successfully done that even with 2.17, but weird things happen with MDA and RAM.

I know somethings may leak, but what I have I need to use now.. Well see..

Originally Posted by Nasty111

anyone kno a way to either transfer all my contacts to my sim card?? or move them all in a bunch to my pc?? beacuse im going to hard reset it and start all over....even though ihad a backup.....i can see when i explore the mda from my activesync that theres a file called msn contacts in a database folder but i cant figure out a way to copy it or move it out.....if someone knows a easy way for me not to have to individually have to program ppls numbers and names back into the phone after the hard reset i would appreciate any help......thnx

~Chris~

Originally Posted by Nasty111

ok... i understand what your saying but I'am not sure how to sync my current contacts on my phone to my pc....in activesync i do have "contacts" syncronized but where is it located on my pc?? any ideas??....thnx for your help liamtoh1

Originally Posted by The Trooper

I'm out a couple of days again and miss soooo much!
I got bad news though and a question. I eradicated the partition with everything I had apps, games, ROMs, Back-ups, etc. now I have nada. The question is can I back-up my current settings, apps, etc. and then re-load them after I do the ROM upgrade? I can't believe there's another one out now! MadDogX007 as always providing good reviews...kudos for that!

Originally Posted by Nasty111

thnx....but still not working....in activesync i sync my pc and contacts and it shows contacts at the bottom of it......but yet still no contacts in outlook...i dunno what I'am doing wrong...can someone help?

Originally Posted by OwensStr8Clowni

I totally forgot how to use audacity to use the ringtones... can someone please help?

Originally Posted by MadDogX007

Final update NEWS on 2.21 upgrade ROM.

Well after installing all my goodies, I mean everything any human would want to make their device look and feel more like windows should have, I feel comfortable saying that I am getting consistently over 18-over19MB's on soft reset, after using SKRam UP just slightly over 20MB's, but that goes up and down between 19.5 - 20.3. The interesting observations, when I shut down an app, my ram goes up not down, like it used to with 2.17. And so far I have not seen my RAM go down below 18.5 even after using many applications and shutting them down. Again every little thing takes away from RAM, like Tray Launcher icons, so I used less. But was surprises after Spb Weather that I still got good RAM.

Is the 2.21 ROM worth upgrading from 2.17? It depends on your situation. I was actually doing fine with 2.17 in my last restore after my battery death, but for reasons not sure, started to leek RAM big time just a week later.

So far I have noticed with 2.2 that the RAM stays consistent all day, not matter what I use, and believe me Im used everything today, and i have reset a dozen times or so testing RAM. Even with hours of no use, my RAM was still over 18.5 MB's. I would love just to see device stay around 18 or so consistently!

I know some of you have said, that even at 12MB's your device still runs good, I agree , it did for me too, but I have a couple of apps and games that require min 16MB's to run, and I would like to know I can run them without soft resetting.

Is there any other big changes with the 2.2? Not really! Not sure what this guy Xcelcin or what ever really does with these Rom upgrades. Does he just fiddle around with EXT Rom's and hacks, or does he actually get into code with Boot loader, and OS? Not sure. But I believe I am booting a bit faster. Is this a figment of my imagination cause I reloaded everything all over again? Not sure, but time will tell

I changed my skin a bit, used some of the buttons from my last skin, and messed around a little with the sound and gave myself a whole new 2.2 look. Here it is..




Over all Im happy I did it , cause I feel more stability, but that could change in the coming week, hope Im wrong, it's stable and RAM is consistent. I will be a happy campter for a while.

Originally Posted by nyvram

I second that...where did you get the cool skin, Maddog? I like that one as well and would love to know where you got it.

Originally Posted by i3onk

Well Bro, If all you say works true for me, then I may be able to go back to WA2. Backing up my device right now. I will flash the rom, then see if I can install the backup to it. If not, then i will have to go through the whole reinstall process again. Man (Sad to say) I am actually not looking forward to doing that.

What WA2 skin is that? I wasnt able to use the mettaloid .

Originally Posted by MadDogX007

I'll put it on ftp soon for you.

Originally Posted by nyvram

I second that...where did you get the cool skin, Maddog? I like that one as well and would love to know where you got it.

Originally Posted by i3onk

Sweet man thanx.

On a SWEET note. I just got done flashing to the new ROM. WOW! I used my 2.17 backup, which needless to say made me happier than heck. Hate having to reinstall the god knows how many apps I have.

At boot up, 21.82M of RAM. That is already an apporximatly 1.5M of RAM increase on bootup. Granted that was the first boot after restoring. Im going to restore a couple more times right now and see if that will be the norm.

Update: OK After 4 more reboots, I am averaging 21.9M at startup me happy. Guess I can try WA2 again, and maybe even try out WAD. Who knows hehe.

Originally Posted by i3onk

Sweet man thanx.

On a SWEET note. I just got done flashing to the new ROM. WOW! I used my 2.17 backup, which needless to say made me happier than heck. Hate having to reinstall the god knows how many apps I have.

At boot up, 21.82M of RAM. That is already an apporximatly 1.5M of RAM increase on bootup. Granted that was the first boot after restoring. Im going to restore a couple more times right now and see if that will be the norm.

Update: OK After 4 more reboots, I am averaging 21.9M at startup me happy. Guess I can try WA2 again, and maybe even try out WAD. Who knows hehe.

Originally Posted by MadDogX007

[QUOTE=i3onk]Sweet man thanx.
QUOTE]

Hey on another note, you learn something everyday in HOFO's MDA hacks. This guy above posted an app called "Audacity". Awesome Bro! I am collecting a bunch of MP3 rings right now. The coolest thing is, you can highlight the part of the MP3 u want, 30 Sec. Then Export Selection as MP3, then open up new selection, highlight the beginning, use menu "effects" Fade in, highlight a little of the end and use Fade out, and bingo my Bro Professional music ring tones. I love this.

You and Jonazen and anyone else of course, has got to check it out for ring tones. Why pay! And with http://www.allofmp3.com entire cd's cost $1.01, individual MP3's are like 15 cents, 30 cents, etc.. I know this allofmp3.com is a bit contraversial, Jonathen and I read some of the critics and conflicting laws on them, but they are from Russia, and seem very legit. They have been trying to screw them for years and can't. I do pay bro! But for 10 bucks I get a ton of music. And now Rings!

Originally Posted by jonazen

[QUOTE=MadDogX007]

Thx for the reports on 2.2 -- I'm definitely going to give it a try when I have some time. The extra memory and stability will make it worth the effort. I've been on the edge re: WA2, and it sounds like 2.2 will make it comfortable to keep, which makes me very happy. I REALLY miss it when I turn it off.

Also really like the skins you're using and the other two on your site. Think when I do this, I'll probably go for a complete reinstall of apps instead of trying to restore from one of my 2.17 backups. I'm afraid that even if the rom versions "line up", the restore will probably restore extra unnecessary sections of the registry and "grew" during the last couple of months using 2.17, installing and uninstalling junk. I'd rather have the registry be as clean as possible.

Looking forward to this, and as i3onk notes, this may even make it reasonable to consider WAD as well as WA2.

Originally Posted by i3onk

Well Just downloaded and installed the latest version of AEButton plus. Much better now. Alot more functionality. Much more and much better button mapping options. Glad I payed for that one.

For those of you who haven't checked it out yet:

http://ae.inc.ru/aebplus.php

And for those of you who are sick of looking at the plain white keyboard.

http://www.lakeridgesoftware.com/fo...read.php?t=5519

Some keyboard skins.

Originally Posted by i3onk

[QUOTE=jonazen]

Hold off on the restoring of your old backup Jona. I am having a popup come up on my saying cant execute windows\timewizard.exe. I have no clue what that Is. I need to figure it out first.

Update: Well timewizard.exe is part of the old ROMs and not a part of 2.1. I cant extract timewizard from the old ROMs so either I stick with 2.17 or go ahead with a total install of all apps. Man talk about a major pain.

Originally Posted by nyvram

have you actually tried to install those keyboard skins? I couldn't get them to work.

Originally Posted by MadDogX007

I checked out these skins for KB. It seems there is a cab file that needs to be initially installed, like with E-Ten dialer, then you can change skins all day long. But the cab file that changes some registry keys, etc., they are referring too, the link, is bad. That is exacly the reason I created my ftp site to keep stuff that sooner or later has broken links and becomes frustrating to download. Im working on putting all those KB Skins on my ftp site, but still looking for the cab file to first install and try this out.

Originally Posted by nyvram

i3onk..you are an addiction enabler.

Originally Posted by i3onk

Damn straight....and you are glad I am, lol

Originally Posted by MadDogX007

Today I went down to a little less then 15mb ram, and only make and recvd calls, hope this is not a sign on 2.2?

I know this phone can be addictive. I actually mess around with this phone more than any other ppc i have ever owned, and I have owned many, plus some sony clie 's that i still having laying around. I still have some older Palm devices laying around too. What can I do with them? I keep them around in case some sad looking student friend of family may need one for contacts or something.

Originally Posted by jonazen

I still have my old CLIE PEG-N710c. Was once the top-of-the-line hot sexy PDA. Screen is color, and big, but nothing compared to today's screens. Nice Palm-based system, but also limited in upgrade capability because the need for a proprietary version of the Palm OS, so it's now stuck in the past. Was also one of the first you could use as an MP3 player too. Trying to convince other family members to use it, but there's only lukewarm interest right now. Don't think it has much of a future here!

Yeah - MDA is fun. Really enjoyed it today up to NYC, all around town and back on the train. Was very cool at one point using TCPMP to play tunes, trading text msgs with my son -- earlier I was listening to TCPMP and browsing HoFo at the same time. Too cool! Even wound up using yahoo to check directions a couple of times for appts (which were, of course, in pocket outllook). Amazing to do all of this WELL in one little device.

Still have to get the buttons and config tweaked. For example: I was in the options pages of TCPMP and assigned the two soft-key buttons to be Next and Prior song buttons for the playlist -- very nice, except that it seems to have modified the settings for these buttons OUTSIDE TCPMP as well (ugh!). NOT what I had in mind! So -- some work still needed...

Re: your memory issue: I continue to find that memory (as well as battery of course) is eaten when I used bluetooth. Did you have it one today with 2.2? I'll bet that's a factor...

Originally Posted by whodatfever

Weird MDA problem. After a soft reboot for some time when I slide out the keyboard the screen re-adjusts as it should from portrait to landscape. Other times it will stay at portrait when I slide it out. Any ideas why?

Originally Posted by pureoctane911

do ne of these programs eat up memory? i was also lookin at my memory in my phone and it saysmy storage is 5.69mb and my program is 20.04mb. i was wondering if this is normal or not. i just got my mda and im tryin my best to search and find things on my own but sometimes it just easier to ask, also i was wondering where everyone get movies and such to put on their mda's. thanks again and looking forward to the great replys thanks again

Originally Posted by pureoctane911

thanks mad dawg, um but what about the storage space? I was just wondering b/c I haven't really put a whole lot one this thing yet and it seems that a lot of the memory has been eatin up. also I was wondering what programs you have loaded on ur mda? I noticed all the stuff posted in the beginning and end of this thread but I was wondering if ne of them eat space up without u knowing? also I was wondering what programs, editors, hacks,etc are safe and what are not? thanks for all your help like I sed before I used to be a big nextel hack and now I'm trying to get some knowledge in the MDA. But thanks again.

Originally Posted by jonazen

I still have my old CLIE PEG-N710c. Was once the top-of-the-line hot sexy PDA. Screen is color, and big, but nothing compared to today's screens. Nice Palm-based system, but also limited in upgrade capability because the need for a proprietary version of the Palm OS, so it's now stuck in the past. Was also one of the first you could use as an MP3 player too. Trying to convince other family members to use it, but there's only lukewarm interest right now. Don't think it has much of a future here!

Yeah - MDA is fun. Really enjoyed it today up to NYC, all around town and back on the train. Was very cool at one point using TCPMP to play tunes, trading text msgs with my son -- earlier I was listening to TCPMP and browsing HoFo at the same time. Too cool! Even wound up using yahoo to check directions a couple of times for appts (which were, of course, in pocket outllook). Amazing to do all of this WELL in one little device.

Still have to get the buttons and config tweaked. For example: I was in the options pages of TCPMP and assigned the two soft-key buttons to be Next and Prior song buttons for the playlist -- very nice, except that it seems to have modified the settings for these buttons OUTSIDE TCPMP as well (ugh!). NOT what I had in mind! So -- some work still needed...

Re: your memory issue: I continue to find that memory (as well as battery of course) is eaten when I used bluetooth. Did you have it one today with 2.2? I'll bet that's a factor...

Originally Posted by i3onk

I have my BT on all the time. I have tested it with it off and havnt really noticed any difference. What I think may be a cause, activesync. I have noticed various times during the day that activesync was running in the background. Seams to come on and off by itself. I am wondering if this may be a cause of some leakage.

Originally Posted by pureoctane911

hard and soft restores? how exactly do you do these things? are there programs, apps, games, editors, color schemes, etc etc out there that are free and easy to use if so can u please let me see some. also ne lil tips and lil things that can make my experince better please post. its for the good of all of use. lol thanks again

Originally Posted by pureoctane911

hard and soft restores? how exactly do you do these things? are there programs, apps, games, editors, color schemes, etc etc out there that are free and easy to use if so can u please let me see some. also ne lil tips and lil things that can make my experince better please post. its for the good of all of use. lol thanks again

Originally Posted by jonazen

ActiveSync definitely eats memory...I've seen this many times when I've started with a lot of free mem, plug in USB cable, watch ActiveSync run, and then find significantly less memory left.

Haven't noticed it running during the day when I'm untethered, but it might be in the background. Doesn't show in the Wisbar task mgr -- but I actually think Wisbar might be set to ignore it and not show in that list. So it COULD be the answer. Maybe I can take ActiveSync off the Wisbar ignore list and try to watch for it.

Re: BT - who knows? Maybe it's the fact that I turn it on and off several times a day that eats memory...

Originally Posted by ilvla2

You are the master of the MDA! I'm still debating whether to go to 2.21, 2.17 seems to be working okay, I'll be checking your threads to see how it goes.

Originally Posted by i3onk

At one point last night right before bed, I have 23.11M of ram available. I know that was a fluke and not the norm, but it was damn nice to see that number lol.