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MDA Tips, Tricks, Hacks, and Questions Thread!!!

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Posted by: tonkabui

yeah, i haven't upgraded to the latest rom yet because the mda seems to be stable and although there is a memory leak, it's not that bad for me. everytime i restart, i get 23mb of ram on the 2.17 rom, and as long as i have minimal programs running, i'm alright. the time factor in reloading all my programs onto the mda is what's making me hesitate to do this.

wait, if all my programs are on the minisd card, will wm5 detect it and run it with no problems? or would i have to reinstall all the cab files? i knew i should have turned on the tweak to keep the cab files. blah.



Posted by: shackk

Quote:
Originally Posted by tonkabui
yeah, i haven't upgraded to the latest rom yet because the mda seems to be stable and although there is a memory leak, it's not that bad for me. everytime i restart, i get 23mb of ram on the 2.17 rom, and as long as i have minimal programs running, i'm alright. the time factor in reloading all my programs onto the mda is what's making me hesitate to do this.

wait, if all my programs are on the minisd card, will wm5 detect it and run it with no problems? or would i have to reinstall all the cab files? i knew i should have turned on the tweak to keep the cab files. blah.


If I understand your question right, no they will not auto detect, you will have to reinstall them. I have all of my .cabs in a folder on my sd just in case something goes wrong and Im away from my comp.



Posted by: i3onk

Quote:
Originally Posted by jonazen
Sounds good! So - the install went smoothly? Is it necessary (recommended?) to do a sim-unlock first on a T-Mobile MDA for this version of the ROM? If so, can it be done with 2.17 installed, or would I have to drop back to the stock TMo ROM first?

Ready to try this, as I'm getting tired of memory leaks. Just sorta dreading all the time I'll be spending on it, as I REALLY don't have lots to spare.



No, you do not need to sim unlock prior to flashing. It will cid unlock again because xelecin built that into this rom.



Posted by: pureoctane911

how do u do a rom update?
also how do u you free up storage memory and does Agile Messenger take up text messages on your bill? please help thanks



Posted by: jonazen

Quote:
Originally Posted by i3onk
No, you do not need to sim unlock prior to flashing. It will cid unlock again because xelecin built that into this rom.


Cool. Phone should still be CID unlocked from last install, but it won't hurt to let it run again. Looking forward to checking this out...



Posted by: i3onk

Quote:
Originally Posted by jonazen
Cool. Phone should still be CID unlocked from last install, but it won't hurt to let it run again. Looking forward to checking this out...



Yeah, it's still unlocked. He just added it to the RUU for the rookies out there who don't know what they are doing. It won't hurt anything.



Posted by: jonazen

Quote:
Originally Posted by i3onk
Yeah, it's still unlocked. He just added it to the RUU for the rookies out there who don't know what they are doing. It won't hurt anything.


Excellent - thx. SO many other things I need to be doing...but this would be nice...especially if it helps with memory consumption.



Posted by: i3onk

OK well I just tried those keyboard skins. Didnt work Guess I can try the KB skin option in tweaks 2k2, but I doubt that would work either.


Update: Ok I just got done chatting with Chris over at lakeridge. Apperantly the dead link was a result of a hacker that was on the site who has long been removed. He has givin me the good link to the cab for KB skins and here it is

http://www.lakeridgesoftware.com/downloads/keyboard.cab

This combined with the skins on the lakeridge site will hopefully work for reskinning the KB. I would love to see what the Black and White marble KB looks like with my B&W skin I modified.

Update: Ok after trying this out the KB skins do not work on our device oh well was worth a try. Guess I will just stick with resco KB for now. I like it alot anyways.



Posted by: i3onk

WOW, I am a freakin POST whore today LOL. I think almost every new post in the mda/sda forums has my name as the last posted. Just felt like I had to put my 2 cents in today hehe. I am sitting at home bored havign a few drinks and thought, "Why dont I go help a few people?"



Posted by: itsjdmyo

does anyone know a way where i can make my GPRS internet on at ALL TIMES? so i don't get logged off my agile messanger all the time?? thx! i'm currently using a registry hack that is working well, except it logs me off everytime someone calls =/



Posted by: i3onk

Quote:
Originally Posted by itsjdmyo
does anyone know a way where i can make my GPRS internet on at ALL TIMES? so i don't get logged off my agile messanger all the time?? thx! i'm currently using a registry hack that is working well, except it logs me off everytime someone calls =/


Thats just the way it is. When someone calls you get logged off of GPRS. once the call is over, it will log you back on.



Posted by: nyvram

i3onk..LOL. Stop being so darn helpful.

Ok, I have been having enough weirdness with my current 217 (gee, I only installed & unistalled about 16,000 applications..can't imagine why its acting flakey on me) that a ROM upgrade is in order. I will try & update to 221 tonight or..well..actually I'm going camping with the cub scouts all weekend so if I don't catch my second wind shortly, I'm going to have to wait until Sun or Mon to update.



Posted by: i3onk

Quote:
Originally Posted by nyvram
i3onk..LOL. Stop being so darn helpful.

Ok, I have been having enough weirdness with my current 217 (gee, I only installed & unistalled about 16,000 applications..can't imagine why its acting flakey on me) that a ROM upgrade is in order. I will try & update to 221 tonight or..well..actually I'm going camping with the cub scouts all weekend so if I don't catch my second wind shortly, I'm going to have to wait until Sun or Mon to update.


This is why you need to copy all of your cab files to your SD card tonight. Whenever you get a free moment this weekend, you add another few aoos. Just flash the rom tonight and get the contacts and calendar sync'd. The rest is a cake walk.

And I cant help but be helpful, lol. Its my nature.

I have been having fun with my taptext icon today . I have created an icon that blends so well with my WA2 themes and regular themes, the only way you can see it is with the target I added to it in white. I love taptext. Talk about a time saving, type saving app. This is one of the best apps I have bought yet. I really wish they had done a better job of placing the icon, but hey, I have that handled too now



Posted by: nyvram

taptext?

(Nyvram scurries off to find out what this is...)

EDIT: Well that didn't take long:

http://microsoft.handango.com/Platf...roductId=159352

Neat! I am already feeling less productive becaues I don't have it.

Once upon a time, I had a similar program I used on my Macintosh (yes, I used to be one of THOSE people) that would insert certain segments of text (autotext maybe?) while creating a document by hitting certain key combos like I could type 'mhx' for instance and it would be replaced by 'what I meant to say was I love you but what came out of my mouth was' as I typed.

Pretty cool app..this looks like a similar type thing..but built for the PPC paradigm.



Posted by: i3onk

Quote:
Originally Posted by nyvram
taptext?

(Nyvram scurries off to find out what this is...)

EDIT: Well that didn't take long:

http://microsoft.handango.com/Platf...roductId=159352

Neat! I am already feeling less productive becaues I don't have it.

Once upon a time, I had a similar program I used on my Macintosh (yes, I used to be one of THOSE people) that would insert certain segments of text (autotext maybe?) while creating a document by hitting certain key combos like I could type 'mhx' for instance and it would be replaced by 'what I meant to say was I love you but what came out of my mouth was' as I typed.

Pretty cool app..this looks like a similar type thing..but built for the PPC paradigm.



Thats basically all it is. I was finding that when sending text messages and such, that i wanted more my text spaces to add preformatted sentances to tests. This is a neccesity when i am at work to send texts fast and not be seen on the phone so much, HEHE. This is the perfect app. I have so much in my taptext right now its amazing. I love it. I just sent the support staff over at dinarsoft an email to see if they can do some editing to the app to get the icon to rest in the tray instead of the startmenu bar. Would make it alot more asthetically pleasing and not stand out so much when using WA2 and other themes. Hope they like my idea and make it so.



Posted by: jonazen

Quote:
Originally Posted by i3onk
Thats basically all it is. I was finding that when sending text messages and such, that i wanted more my text spaces to add preformatted sentances to tests. This is a neccesity when i am at work to send texts fast and not be seen on the phone so much, HEHE. This is the perfect app. I have so much in my taptext right now its amazing. I love it. I just sent the support staff over at dinarsoft an email to see if they can do some editing to the app to get the icon to rest in the tray instead of the startmenu bar. Would make it alot more asthetically pleasing and not stand out so much when using WA2 and other themes. Hope they like my idea and make it so.


Funny - I was totally oblivious to taptext until reading these posts! Looks good...but if I get it, I'd also like to have the icon placement optional... No way you can override icon placement? e.g., turn OFF the default icon, and use something like iLauncher to put an icon on the tray bar?



Posted by: i3onk

Quote:
Originally Posted by jonazen
Funny - I was totally oblivious to taptext until reading these posts! Looks good...but if I get it, I'd also like to have the icon placement optional... No way you can override icon placement? e.g., turn OFF the default icon, and use something like iLauncher to put an icon on the tray bar?



Actually Jona, I just recieved that answer a couple minutes ago from Dinarsoft.

I turned off the program icon in the taptext settings. Then I set one of my WA2 custom icons to tap text. The intrusive taptext icon is gone, and when I tap on the WA2 custom icon, the taptext menu shows up right where it should be . Im going to test this with a tray Icon now.

Update: It worked great. Tray icons is working. Only problem is the menu stil pops up on the top. Seams like a pain to tap the tray and then move to the top for the taptext menu. But hey, to get rid of that ugly icon, its worth it.

Nice to find all of this out after my hours of hard work on making custom icons for taptext, LOL.

Update #2: Just changeed it to my home button. I didnt like the custom 1 button.



Posted by: i3onk

You guys might also want to check out their handylauncher. It adds even more functionality to your tray. Giving you an unlimited number or tra launch icons. It is a bit slow loading the first time you tap it after each reboot, but after that works very smoothly. Gives you a tap menu with the icons you want, and a tap and hold menu with more icons that you want. I didnt pay for that one yet. I will debating on weather or not it was slowing my bootup time down drastically. I will have to check it out again, maybe today.



Posted by: i3onk

WOW! I am a very happy man right now. I gave Chris over at Lakeridge and idea of maybe creating a soundhook app for us. Either as an addon to WBL or a standalone app. Here is his response.

"The sound hook program is an intriguing idea. I can certainly look into doing something like that. Fortunately, since the initial research has already been completed, it should be pretty easy to do."

Crossing fingers and waiting patiently with major anticipation.



Posted by: MadDogX007

Quote:
Originally Posted by i3onk
At one point last night right before bed, I have 23.11M of ram available. I know that was a fluke and not the norm, but it was damn nice to see that number lol.


I know i get excited when that happens, cause you know it's going down.

Funny I freeze up once in a while after enabling wi-fi and clicking on Wi-Fi Companion, then clicking out of Wi-Fi Comp, weird. Wi-Fi Comp got excellent reviews this months Smartphone/Pocket as the best in the industry.

Although even on 2.21 wi-fi companion is still reporting 66% range sitting next to router? That was happened with 2.17 too, never happend with original OEM, I use to see 100% signal.

Well Im getting a consistent soft reset Ram of about just less then 18, but with SKRam run immediately, I get 19.5, which is darn better then I was doing with 2.17. Ocassionally, getting rarely, I may see 20.1 or something, but it goes away quickly. Still much better then i was doing. Boot up is defenetly a bit faster.



Posted by: MadDogX007

FREE BEE IM 2.0 I have talked about so much, available on my ftp site.

I hve been getting msgs that it does not seem to work for others, which is weird cause it works beautifully for me. But here is how I use it. It is a bit strange, but for a free bee..

It seems you cannot just logon using IM fist, at least not for me. What I do is, I click on News Headlines, or something else, 2.0 prompts me then for screen name and pw, I click on save pw, click on "auto", and the little door chime comes right on.

aftter that I can do what ever I want, go to IM, etc. Also if wi-fi is on, and I click on IM 2.0 it automatically logs me in to IM on next session.

That's the only way it works for me. But it works!



Posted by: MadDogX007

Has anyone noticed on 2.21, who upgraded, that the sound on phone speaker is much lower than before. Is there a way to increase with utility, or someting?



Posted by: i3onk

Quote:
Originally Posted by MadDogX007
FREE BEE IM 2.0 I have talked about so much, available on my ftp site.

I hve been getting msgs that it does not seem to work for others, which is weird cause it works beautifully for me. But here is how I use it. It is a bit strange, but for a free bee..

It seems you cannot just logon using IM fist, at least not for me. What I do is, I click on News Headlines, or something else, 2.0 prompts me then for screen name and pw, I click on save pw, click on "auto", and the little door chime comes right on.

aftter that I can do what ever I want, go to IM, etc. Also if wi-fi is on, and I click on IM 2.0 it automatically logs me in to IM on next session.

That's the only way it works for me. But it works!


Yeah when I tried it out, thats what I had to do as well. That was one of the reasons I didnt like it. If all you need is AIm though, its a great little app, especially for free.



Posted by: MadDogX007

Quote:
Originally Posted by jonazen
Funny - I was totally oblivious to taptext until reading these posts! Looks good...but if I get it, I'd also like to have the icon placement optional... No way you can override icon placement? e.g., turn OFF the default icon, and use something like iLauncher to put an icon on the tray bar?


Very interesting, but what is the difference between Ilauncher and Traylauncher?



Posted by: MadDogX007

Quote:
Originally Posted by i3onk
OK well I just tried those keyboard skins. Didnt work Guess I can try the KB skin option in tweaks 2k2, but I doubt that would work either.


Update: Ok I just got done chatting with Chris over at lakeridge. Apperantly the dead link was a result of a hacker that was on the site who has long been removed. He has givin me the good link to the cab for KB skins and here it is

http://www.lakeridgesoftware.com/downloads/keyboard.cab

This combined with the skins on the lakeridge site will hopefully work for reskinning the KB. I would love to see what the Black and White marble KB looks like with my B&W skin I modified.

Update: Ok after trying this out the KB skins do not work on our device oh well was worth a try. Guess I will just stick with resco KB for now. I like it alot anyways.



That's too bad I just finished nice presentation of them on my ftp. Since you have dialogue going with this guy, can u ask him, why we can't get them on MDA?



Posted by: i3onk

Quote:
Originally Posted by MadDogX007
Very interesting, but what is the difference between Ilauncher and Traylauncher?


I think he is talking about not using tray launcher, and just having one of the ilauncher tabs ghosted into the tray. Jona Uses Ilauncher. Its the same as SBP Pocket Plus, just with more functionality. Vertical tabs as well as horizontal, ability to ghost a tab into the tray.



Posted by: panda222

This will take a bit, but here is my RANT.

Received a SKll and a day later the screen went out. Sent it back to T-Mobile (US). 30 days later I received another one, Yes 30 days. Had to pay for the first month of service that I didn't have also. T-Mobile said sucks to be you.

Within in a week of having the 2nd SKll, it developed issues as well. It would power down on its own.

Called T-mobile while driving enroute from Peoria Il to the far northern suburbs of Chicago almost a 3 hr drive. Talked to at least 8 T-Mobile representatives, being disconnected and reconnected each time to the wrong person, having to give my name, mobile # and SS number as well each time. Still got know where. The following day I called from my home phone and still the same thing, wrong person, lets reconnect again.

The following morning I figured lets call em back, its early and maybe better luck. (This was at 8am) I finally found someone who could help me in direct sales. Even asked them that if I get disconnected please at least have the decency of returning my call to the following number.

Now I have to return the 2nd bad SK2 and purchase a new model phone. They rep said an MDA is for you. Better, and the newest and hottest phone on the market. OK I said, send it. It will however cost you $250.00 more than your SK2.

Received the phone and had it activated. Charged it up and decided to play with it a day later. Tried to gain access to the internet and couldn’t. Could get my email though. Called the T-Mobile customer service and was switched a couple of times to different representatives.

Now I am told that I had no data plan for my New MDA, I was still on a SK2 plan which won't work with the MDA phone. OK what do I need to do now?
You need a data plan, OK lets get it,

The cost is $49.00 per month and the following is what you get.

Unlimited Data
Unlimited Email Accounts
Instant Messaging
T-Zones
300 anytime airtime minutes, and FREE weekends

Wow now I'm a happy camper, went out of town and am using my phone, data plan and email like a champ. Even found out that my Sling Box works on the Mobile now.

That was until I received another bill for my services, I was charged for everything. WOW WHAT happened to the $49.00 a month plan I was on?

Called T-Mobile customer service and was told I was on the wrong $49.00 a month plan. They will now switch me to the proper plan however; I have to pay for the bills I have incurred. What a Rip.

So hopefully now everything should be smooth, wrong again got this months bill and am now charged a fee for my AIM service, it seems that the OZ program is an instant message service and you are charged for IM’s.

Went on line and found Agile Mobile Messaging and hopefully all is going to be well.

J.D. Powers must be getting paid for there findings.



Posted by: i3onk

Sorry to hear you had such a hard time man. I knwo TMo cust service can suck pretty bad at times. Most of the time though it is really good.

Glad you got to the MDA, its a great phone once you get it all set up and running. Welcome to our little family



Posted by: i3onk

OK WA2 users. Have you ever had the issue where WA2 will startup, but only the startmenu abr is loaded. The sof button bar and the sound hooks are not active? This has happened to me a couple of times. Qith 2.21 and alot when I was running 2.17. I know its not a ROm issue, was just giving you a time frame. There has to be some kind of setting somewhere I hit when I wasnt looking or something. Im stumped.



Posted by: nyvram

Quote:
Originally Posted by i3onk
WOW! I am a very happy man right now. I gave Chris over at Lakeridge and idea of maybe creating a soundhook app for us. Either as an addon to WBL or a standalone app. Here is his response.

"The sound hook program is an intriguing idea. I can certainly look into doing something like that. Fortunately, since the initial research has already been completed, it should be pretty easy to do."

Crossing fingers and waiting patiently with major anticipation.


Sound hook? WHat did I miss? What is this?



Posted by: MadDogX007

Quote:
Originally Posted by tonkabui
yeah, i haven't upgraded to the latest rom yet because the mda seems to be stable and although there is a memory leak, it's not that bad for me. everytime i restart, i get 23mb of ram on the 2.17 rom, and as long as i have minimal programs running, i'm alright. the time factor in reloading all my programs onto the mda is what's making me hesitate to do this.

wait, if all my programs are on the minisd card, will wm5 detect it and run it with no problems? or would i have to reinstall all the cab files? i knew i should have turned on the tweak to keep the cab files. blah.


Well heres my 2cents. I also keep all the cab files on my card, I learned the hard way. If i had to re install them, I would copy tweak2k2 to another location, execute it, and install hacks, like "don't delete cab files", soft reset, then start installing cab files freelie.

Of course you don't always have to re load all your apps, not even on a cold boot, if you have Spb Backup. Spb Backup creates a self extract file to restore everything without a hitch. A mirror image of your MDA, and everthing you had in ROM! Which is why I keep all my important utilities and programs I need in ROM, then upon restore I don't have to register them again. You see, you can cold boot, install only necessary apps/util, hacks, configurations, and do 1 stage backup, just to revert to, incase the rest of ur installation does not go as you intended. Once you have all working the way you want, you do another major backup on to card.

I have un-attended backups for just calendar, contacts, my documents, email ONLY. Then I can simply restore the latest self extract file.

True everytime we upgrade Rom, hopefully not often, we invite the idea of having to re load everything again, but you get so good at this, it's quick and easy with cab files.



Posted by: nyvram

How do we manage this w/ the cab files again? Was it a registry key or app that disables the 'automatically delete cab files after install' behavior?



Posted by: changogrande

Quote:
Originally Posted by panda222
Called T-Mobile customer service and was told I was on the wrong $49.00 a month plan. They will now switch me to the proper plan however; I have to pay for the bills I have incurred. What a Rip.

I would go after them big time on this. Just keep moving up the ladder until you get someone who has the power to take care of it. I've been a T-Mo customer for years, and have gone after them 3 times for either straight-out mistakes in billing--or, like in your case, misrepresentation of a plan.

Once I got 6 months of free service on 4 phone lines because of a promise that was made to me by a brand new rep (I was actually her very first call). I took this one all the way up to the president, cause I was so pissed (no, I never spoke to him, but his Special Assistant took care of me). If I hadn't bought 4 new phones because of the supposed offer the rep made, I would not have taken it that far. Bottom line, $976 of free service, just because I wouldn't lay down.



Posted by: jonazen

Quote:
Originally Posted by i3onk
I think he is talking about not using tray launcher, and just having one of the ilauncher tabs ghosted into the tray. Jona Uses Ilauncher. Its the same as SBP Pocket Plus, just with more functionality. Vertical tabs as well as horizontal, ability to ghost a tab into the tray.



What HE said

Yup - I'm using iLauncher. Seems to work quite well. So far, I'm not making max use of it's various tab features -- just using it to display an icon bar in the middle of the Today screen, as well as the icons from one of my other tabs (which I happened to name "Tray") in the tray at the bottom. As i3onk mentioned, you can create tabs with large icons as well on the Today screen - I just haven't played with that yet.

Probably going to rethink a lot of this when I go for 2.21...



Posted by: i3onk

Quote:
Originally Posted by nyvram
Sound hook? WHat did I miss? What is this?


Basically when you push the menu button or other sound related things on the device it will make the sound you want instead of the OEM sounds.



Posted by: jonazen

Quote:
Originally Posted by i3onk
OK WA2 users. Have you ever had the issue where WA2 will startup, but only the startmenu abr is loaded. The sof button bar and the sound hooks are not active? This has happened to me a couple of times. Qith 2.21 and alot when I was running 2.17. I know its not a ROm issue, was just giving you a time frame. There has to be some kind of setting somewhere I hit when I wasnt looking or something. Im stumped.


I'm experiencing that with 2.17 and WA2. No bottom bar (just the default soft key and a plain tray with whatever icons iLauncher puts there). Sounds are only half there it seems. As I mentioned in some other posts, with WA2 on, my System Volume is forced down to "1", although I still have control over phone volume. Turning the sound hook on and off makes no difference. MANY events seem to be silent. Very weird. I did NOT have this problem with WA2 initially -- but it's been here for about a week, despite all my fiddling with settings. I was ready to try restoring an old backup, but I think I'll save the time and energy instead and simply jump right to 2.21...



Posted by: jonazen

Quote:
Originally Posted by changogrande
I would go after them big time on this. Just keep moving up the ladder until you get someone who has the power to take care of it. I've been a T-Mo customer for years, and have gone after them 3 times for either straight-out mistakes in billing--or, like in your case, misrepresentation of a plan.

Once I got 6 months of free service on 4 phone lines because of a promise that was made to me by a brand new rep (I was actually her very first call). I took this one all the way up to the president, cause I was so pissed (no, I never spoke to him, but his Special Assistant took care of me). If I hadn't bought 4 new phones because of the supposed offer the rep made, I would not have taken it that far. Bottom line, $976 of free service, just because I wouldn't lay down.


I'm also sorry to hear about the problems -- and I would definitely NOT accept the idea that you have to pay for their mistakes, data problems or device problems. At some level in T-Mobile customer care, they understand this concept. I've been quite lucky with them over the years -- and the excellent treatment I received by all the CC people I've dealt with is one of the reasons I've decided to stay with T-Mobile year after year. I'm not doubting your experience -- but it's unusual from what I've heard, what I've read and what I've experienced personally.

You really should pursue this. My suggestion (if I may be so bold), would be to remain courteous - but don't take "no" for an answer -- continue to ask for higher level management, and do NOT agree to be put off. If you can present your case clearly, and it can be shown to be a clear situation of somebody in T-Mobile making a mistake -- and not turn into a pissing contest between you and Customer Care, then I'm confident you'll eventually get proper treatment and satisfaction. Overall, they really are an excellent outfit in terms of customer service -- in your case, it may just be a matter of finding the right manager to get things back on track.



Posted by: shackk

Quote:
Originally Posted by i3onk
OK WA2 users. Have you ever had the issue where WA2 will startup, but only the startmenu abr is loaded. The sof button bar and the sound hooks are not active? This has happened to me a couple of times. Qith 2.21 and alot when I was running 2.17. I know its not a ROm issue, was just giving you a time frame. There has to be some kind of setting somewhere I hit when I wasnt looking or something. Im stumped.


Yeah I have had that on occasion, I just exited the program and then restarted and works fine. I dont believe it is a rom issue either, just an occasional bad load.



Posted by: nyvram

Quote:
Originally Posted by jonazen
I'm experiencing that with 2.17 and WA2. No bottom bar (just the default soft key and a plain tray with whatever icons iLauncher puts there). Sounds are only half there it seems. As I mentioned in some other posts, with WA2 on, my System Volume is forced down to "1", although I still have control over phone volume. Turning the sound hook on and off makes no difference. MANY events seem to be silent. Very weird. I did NOT have this problem with WA2 initially -- but it's been here for about a week, despite all my fiddling with settings. I was ready to try restoring an old backup, but I think I'll save the time and energy instead and simply jump right to 2.21...


how funny! Something in the air? My bottom buttons just went away as well and I had some weirdness where if I switched to landscape mode, this ugly blue background would creep all around the wisbar interface and the only way to fix is to exit & restart wisbar.



Posted by: changogrande

Quote:
Originally Posted by jonazen
I'm also sorry to hear about the problems -- and I would definitely NOT accept the idea that you have to pay for their mistakes, data problems or device problems. At some level in T-Mobile customer care, they understand this concept. I've been quite lucky with them over the years -- and the excellent treatment I received by all the CC people I've dealt with is one of the reasons I've decided to stay with T-Mobile year after year. I'm not doubting your experience -- but it's unusual from what I've heard, what I've read and what I've experienced personally.

You really should pursue this. My suggestion (if I may be so bold), would be to remain courteous - but don't take "no" for an answer -- continue to ask for higher level management, and do NOT agree to be put off. If you can present your case clearly, and it can be shown to be a clear situation of somebody in T-Mobile making a mistake -- and not turn into a pissing contest between you and Customer Care, then I'm confident you'll eventually get proper treatment and satisfaction. Overall, they really are an excellent outfit in terms of customer service -- in your case, it may just be a matter of finding the right manager to get things back on track.

Thanks for clarifying the approach, Jon. If there's one thing I've learned in my years in business, it's to never get mad (or at least don't let it show too much). For one, it hurts more than helps your cause; plus, it's never wise to burn your bridges. So yes, be nice, but don't back down because someone claims "it's company policy" or "I'm not authorized to do that."

And I do agree their customer service is very customer friendly and responsive (except for that one time, but like you said, you keep taking it up a level until you find someone who "gets" it).



Posted by: changogrande

Quote:
Originally Posted by shackk
Yeah I have had that on occasion, I just exited the program and then restarted and works fine. I dont believe it is a rom issue either, just an occasional bad load.

Exit and restart works for me, too. Usually it's a sound problem.



Posted by: jonazen

Quote:
Originally Posted by nyvram
how funny! Something in the air? My bottom buttons just went away as well and I had some weirdness where if I switched to landscape mode, this ugly blue background would creep all around the wisbar interface and the only way to fix is to exit & restart wisbar.


I hadn't remembered until you mentioned it..but the right side of my task bar gets visually corrupted when I switch to landscape -- and back. About 1/2" to 3/4" looks like the image is partially overlayed with something else. Some kind of skinning conflict happening there.

*sigh*

Think I'm going to go for 2.21, manually reinstall the apps and skins, and stop mucking with it for a while! (yeah - THAT will be the day!)



Posted by: MadDogX007

Quote:
Originally Posted by panda222
This will take a bit, but here is my RANT.

Received a SKll and a day later the screen went out. Sent it back to T-Mobile (US). 30 days later I received another one, Yes 30 days. Had to pay for the first month of service that I didn't have also. T-Mobile said sucks to be you.

Within in a week of having the 2nd SKll, it developed issues as well. It would power down on its own.

Called T-mobile while driving enroute from Peoria Il to the far northern suburbs of Chicago almost a 3 hr drive. Talked to at least 8 T-Mobile representatives, being disconnected and reconnected each time to the wrong person, having to give my name, mobile # and SS number as well each time. Still got know where. The following day I called from my home phone and still the same thing, wrong person, lets reconnect again.

The following morning I figured lets call em back, its early and maybe better luck. (This was at 8am) I finally found someone who could help me in direct sales. Even asked them that if I get disconnected please at least have the decency of returning my call to the following number.

Now I have to return the 2nd bad SK2 and purchase a new model phone. They rep said an MDA is for you. Better, and the newest and hottest phone on the market. OK I said, send it. It will however cost you $250.00 more than your SK2.

Received the phone and had it activated. Charged it up and decided to play with it a day later. Tried to gain access to the internet and couldn’t. Could get my email though. Called the T-Mobile customer service and was switched a couple of times to different representatives.

Now I am told that I had no data plan for my New MDA, I was still on a SK2 plan which won't work with the MDA phone. OK what do I need to do now?
You need a data plan, OK lets get it,

The cost is $49.00 per month and the following is what you get.

Unlimited Data
Unlimited Email Accounts
Instant Messaging
T-Zones
300 anytime airtime minutes, and FREE weekends

Wow now I'm a happy camper, went out of town and am using my phone, data plan and email like a champ. Even found out that my Sling Box works on the Mobile now.

That was until I received another bill for my services, I was charged for everything. WOW WHAT happened to the $49.00 a month plan I was on?

Called T-Mobile customer service and was told I was on the wrong $49.00 a month plan. They will now switch me to the proper plan however; I have to pay for the bills I have incurred. What a Rip.

So hopefully now everything should be smooth, wrong again got this months bill and am now charged a fee for my AIM service, it seems that the OZ program is an instant message service and you are charged for IM’s.

Went on line and found Agile Mobile Messaging and hopefully all is going to be well.

J.D. Powers must be getting paid for there findings.


I can't help but to jump into this topic.. Here's my long 2 cents. That is why i have not had a contract with TMO for over 3 years, maybe 4, can't remember!! People may think im crazy for paying more for a phone, like I did, your 250 bucks is well spent my bro, cause it cost me 415 or something. Why? Cause I had no time for TMO. I love their service, really, and I have had them all since the inception of cellular!! But when it comes to TMO telling me what to do, homie don't play that.

These people are human beings, and if your LUCKY you may get one that knows what the heck is going on, but for the most part, they sell Sim cards, their in the business of monthly payments, NOT phones. Phones are the bi product of the heart of their business. That is why they could care less where u buy ur phone, unless you want something from them, then it's Sim time, moolah!! Upgrades! Contracts!

Why is it I don't pay these people for anything special, except a family plan with 140min a month, and no headaches. I use wi-fi for FREE. I use IM for FREE. The best thing you can ever do with a cellular carrier, if possible, is keep your plan, especially if you already have GPRS, or Edge, cause it's urs for ever and ever, no matter what. Im only sorry I dropped GPRS once, but it was terrible then, but may have jumped right into Edge today, had I kept it.

When I bought the MDA, TMO could'nt get it.. They could not carry one. Hey u pay the price for tecnology, but I have always enjoyed the best. Now I hope I don't sound pompous, I am not, but if you like technology, like I do, price is a relevant thing for me. Would I spend 5,000 on a bike, probably not, but if I was a biker, I would!

Most of us here live in the greatest consumer country in the World, my opinion!! Yet we are the last to get the best technology. True! Europe wins heads up. why? No headaches of passing inspections, or getting special permits, or to deal with some communications council for blessings, wht ever, so they get the greatest and the latest of phones, way before America ever sees them. The beauty of this is, you can buy these great phones from Europe, and other US companies who have access, as long as your using A GSM network, cause bottom line GSM phones are the best! And TMO could care less!! All they care about is that you pay monthly, that u have that magic Sim.

I feel for your experience, cause it su ck s. I know, I hate repeating my name and number, especially to a billion dollar corporation which can easily pull your information on a screen First time! To avoid stress, I try to keep away from reps, and when I can't I pamper them alot. The world is full of what I call, money su ck ing machines.

The world is getting way to complicated, we need to become self sufficient, and the best way to this, is boards like this one, magazines like Smartphone/Pocket PC, and others. Frustration on all of this technology comes from dealing with people who themselves are like the blind leading the blind.

Most of these reps are surprised what u can do with a ppc, and most never learn? Not all , but most of them don't even own a PPC, and those who do, don't use it they way we do. I had a guy once on the phone who was using a phone from another carrier? Sad, cause i would not buy a volkswagen from a guy using a lexus.

Case in question and final thought. My son-in-law bought a Verizon phone, recently for him and his wife, really nice, BT, Micro Card, cute phone, not ppc. Were driving around one day, he goes into Radio Shack and buys a mini adaptor for stereo, but it gives him no stere sound. I test the headphones on the MDA, stereo! The icon on the input of his phone illustrates stereo headphones. So he gives in and says, maybe these are mono? "I' just return the adaptor. NO NO, wrong conversatin with the right Father-in-Law. Why would they put a stereo logo?? I take him to Verizon, we see a guy, the ad on model says, clearly MP3. The sales guy points to other phones and says, those are the only ones I know play stereo. I grab him by the hand, ask a guy in circuit city, do you have a pc online for research, yes they do, great! I grab him by hand, I log into HOFO, go to his phone, boom, posts about the Radio Shack adaptor does not work. Posts about the only one that works with stereo, sold by Cingular for a phone that was discontiued?? On way out I stop to say my 2 cents to this young guy about knowing more about his phones, he give me a sarcastic look, but guarantee he will know something next time a customer asks.

I grab Son-in-law by hand, drive off to nearest Cingular, out of stock, to our surprise the Cingular next to the darn Radio Shack we just came from had the darn thing. He buys mini adapter, returns Radio Shacks version. Now hes got another story about his Father in law and his crazy tech life. Be self sufficient, that's my slogan for today! Oh and know my son in law copies mp3's to his micro card, which he could NOT with his phone, cause Verizon wants to sell you Mp3's for tons of moolah. How did he do it? A a hack from were? HOFO.



Posted by: MadDogX007

Quote:
Originally Posted by i3onk
OK WA2 users. Have you ever had the issue where WA2 will startup, but only the startmenu abr is loaded. The sof button bar and the sound hooks are not active? This has happened to me a couple of times. Qith 2.21 and alot when I was running 2.17. I know its not a ROm issue, was just giving you a time frame. There has to be some kind of setting somewhere I hit when I wasnt looking or something. Im stumped.


Yes, recently, not with sound, but buttom bar, aggrevating. I noticed if I dissabled Tray Launcher and reset it was ok. But wanted Tray Launcher, so kept playing around with that disable, reset, enable tl, a few times, and, somehow it liked something and all worked good, so far.



Posted by: nyvram

Repeat after me..."Ohhhh, I LOVE THE REGISTRY...KEYS and SETTINGS are my LIFFFFFFFFFFFE, if it wasn't for the REGISTRRRRRRRRRRRY, I MIGHT SIMPLY DIEEEEEEEEEEEEE"



Posted by: shackk

Quote:
Originally Posted by nyvram
Repeat after me..."Ohhhh, I LOVE THE REGISTRY...KEYS and SETTINGS are my LIFFFFFFFFFFFE, if it wasn't for the REGISTRRRRRRRRRRRY, I MIGHT SIMPLY DIEEEEEEEEEEEEE"


Looks like someone ate the "special" brownies j/k



Posted by: i3onk

Quote:
Originally Posted by MadDogX007
Yes, recently, not with sound, but buttom bar, aggrevating. I noticed if I dissabled Tray Launcher and reset it was ok. But wanted Tray Launcher, so kept playing around with that disable, reset, enable tl, a few times, and, somehow it liked something and all worked good, so far.



Ok again, great help from Chris over at lakeridge. he told me that if the phone tries to load too many dll's on boot up, something must suffer. Unfortunatly it is wisbar. If you go into WA2 settings and to delay times. Change the boot time to 5 seconds. Bam its fixed



Posted by: jonazen

Quote:
Originally Posted by i3onk
Ok again, great help from Chris over at lakeridge. he told me that if the phone tries to load too many dll's on boot up, something must suffer. Unfortunatly it is wisbar. If you go into WA2 settings and to delay times. Change the boot time to 5 seconds. Bam its fixed


OK...this is weird...

I just installed the 2.21 ROM (yay!)

I just installed most of my other stuff, including:
PocketBreeze, ContactBreeze, iLauncher
Wisbar Advance 2
SPB Weather
MemMaid & SKTools
PocketScreenCapture
Resco File Explorer & Registry editor add-in
MS Voice Command
Darryl Burling's Voice Enable

Still have to do PocketZenPhone and whatever skins I'll be using...

I added the 5 second delay to Wisbar under "boot" - and now I'm getting all the sounds for the theme. But...I'm starting to think that I'm not now -- and NEVER have -- seen the bottom bar. Can SOMEBODY post a picture of what it's supposed to look like????? (please!)



Posted by: MadDogX007

Quote:
Originally Posted by i3onk
Ok again, great help from Chris over at lakeridge. he told me that if the phone tries to load too many dll's on boot up, something must suffer. Unfortunatly it is wisbar. If you go into WA2 settings and to delay times. Change the boot time to 5 seconds. Bam its fixed


Well it's not currently happening anymore, but solid information incase it does again. Or maybe I'll just change it to be safe.

thxs bro..



Posted by: MadDogX007

Quote:
Originally Posted by jonazen
OK...this is weird...

I just installed the 2.21 ROM (yay!)

I just installed most of my other stuff, including:
PocketBreeze, ContactBreeze, iLauncher
Wisbar Advance 2
SPB Weather
MemMaid & SKTools
PocketScreenCapture
Resco File Explorer & Registry editor add-in
MS Voice Command
Darryl Burling's Voice Enable

Still have to do PocketZenPhone and whatever skins I'll be using...

I added the 5 second delay to Wisbar under "boot" - and now I'm getting all the sounds for the theme. But...I'm starting to think that I'm not now -- and NEVER have -- seen the bottom bar. Can SOMEBODY post a picture of what it's supposed to look like????? (please!)


The bottom bar is what I posted the other day.. My skin.. here it goes again.



Bottom bar is my Calender Contacts, unless someone is talking about something else, that is what went away. When it left for lunch it became the default windows.



Posted by: tippymn

Quote:
Originally Posted by jonazen
OK...this is weird...

I just installed the 2.21 ROM (yay!)

I just installed most of my other stuff, including:
PocketBreeze, ContactBreeze, iLauncher
Wisbar Advance 2
SPB Weather
MemMaid & SKTools
PocketScreenCapture
Resco File Explorer & Registry editor add-in
MS Voice Command
Darryl Burling's Voice Enable

Still have to do PocketZenPhone and whatever skins I'll be using...

I added the 5 second delay to Wisbar under "boot" - and now I'm getting all the sounds for the theme. But...I'm starting to think that I'm not now -- and NEVER have -- seen the bottom bar. Can SOMEBODY post a picture of what it's supposed to look like????? (please!)




I changed skins earlier in the week and my bottom bar hasn't skinned since. Am wondering why, am using a skin I've used before and the bottom skinned...

I am taking the plunge this weekend and doing the 2.21 upgrade, did the 2.17 about a month ago and if my daughter says one word to me about being a geeky mom...I'm just gonna point her in your guys direction...you guys (maddog, jonazen, and i3onk) are worse then me!! And I'm pretty bad, i HAVE to do something to this thing EVERYDAY!!

Will let you know if my bottom bar starts skinning again...and that 5 second delay...I don't load on soft reset, I manually load...still not working.

tippy



Posted by: i3onk

Jona, You have always had the bottom bar. I remember seeing yoru screen shots. Its the marble looking bar on the bottom of your B&W skin.

Here you go, I installed it really fast.





Posted by: i3onk

Quote:
Originally Posted by tippymn
I changed skins earlier in the week and my bottom bar hasn't skinned since. Am wondering why, am using a skin I've used before and the bottom skinned...

I am taking the plunge this weekend and doing the 2.21 upgrade, did the 2.17 about a month ago and if my daughter says one word to me about being a geeky mom...I'm just gonna point her in your guys direction...you guys (maddog, jonazen, and i3onk) are worse then me!! And I'm pretty bad, i HAVE to do something to this thing EVERYDAY!!

Will let you know if my bottom bar starts skinning again...and that 5 second delay...I don't load on soft reset, I manually load...still not working.

tippy



OK I am at a loss then. If it isnt skinning when you start it up after boot up, Im not sure what it is. Post in the lakeridge forums. Im sure chris will help y ou in a heart beat.

http://www.lakeridgesoftware.com/forum/index.php



Posted by: changogrande

Quote:
Originally Posted by jonazen
OK...this is weird...

I added the 5 second delay to Wisbar under "boot" - and now I'm getting all the sounds for the theme. But...I'm starting to think that I'm not now -- and NEVER have -- seen the bottom bar. Can SOMEBODY post a picture of what it's supposed to look like????? (please!)

Now you got me thinking, so I went to Juni's site to see his pics of the Black & White skin I use--and sure enough, I'm not getting skinned on the bottom bar either.

If anybody's got any ideas on this one, I'd love it. It didn't bother me when I didn't know it was missing--but now that I know, I gotta have it!



Posted by: changogrande

Quote:
Originally Posted by jonazen
Okay...feeling better about this, and having more fun now!

Here's the screen as it looks now:



Jon, here's your post from a few week's ago showing your screen (post #2591). It looks to me like you have the bottom skinned, although it's different than what shows on Juni's site (maybe he's skinning Spb Pocket Plus on those shots, but I dunno). I do know that your bottom bar in this old post is different than what I have on mine.

I'll try i3onk's suggestion and post in the Lakeridge forums. Will let you know what comes of it.



Posted by: changogrande

Quote:
Originally Posted by i3onk
Ok again, great help from Chris over at lakeridge. he told me that if the phone tries to load too many dll's on boot up, something must suffer. Unfortunatly it is wisbar. If you go into WA2 settings and to delay times. Change the boot time to 5 seconds. Bam its fixed

Tried the 5 second delay in boot time, didn't work. Checked out the Lakeridge forums, all I found was the too-many-DLL's-on-boot-up solution or the delay-boot-time solution. The first solution is a PITA, so I increased the delay in boot time to 10 seconds (you know, the American way--more is better!), and voila! Now my bottom bar looks like Jonazen's screen in the post above. First time ever. Wooohoooo!

Thanks, i3onk, for the info and the push in the right direction!



Posted by: jonazen

Quote:
Originally Posted by i3onk
Jona, You have always had the bottom bar. I remember seeing yoru screen shots. Its the marble looking bar on the bottom of your B&W skin.

Here you go, I installed it really fast.



Thx, i30nk. I found the images (still have them hosted on my website too). Yup - I USED to be skinning the bottom bar. That's why I USED to have the nice 3D buttons. When I tried the 5 second delay trick just before going out tonight, I had fallen back to a the default WA2 theme that comes with it (simpler and lighter weight than Juni skins), and noticed that although the bottom bar was plain, it WAS being skinned. So it seems that somewhere along the way, my startup sequence got too crammed, and the bottom bar AND sound disappeared until I added back the 5 second delay as Chris from Lakeridge suggested.

This I'll try one of the brighter silvery themes this time. Also been admiring some "Bump That Graphics" skins - very nice. I like Blue Fidelity...just not sure I want to pay that much for another set of skins right now!

Realized that I still need to install PZP and TCPMP....



Posted by: i3onk

Some of the themes on BTG are actually free. I am trying some of them out now.



Posted by: i3onk

#@&$! i just dropped my MDA on the bricks in the backyard and put a fat ding in the side. You think they would give me a new one for something as minor as that? It is insured.



Posted by: MadDogX007

Quote:
Originally Posted by i3onk
#@&$! i just dropped my MDA on the bricks in the backyard and put a fat ding in the side. You think they would give me a new one for something as minor as that? It is insured.


I keep the SD cartridge that come with the miniSD and another miniSD in my leather case flap, and when I closed the lid without noticing, in time the SD cartridge rubbed some of the silver off the MDA and that upset me abit, so I know ur feeling. it's like waiting for that first dent on a new car.

I don't want to add salt to injury, but that's why I never liked the original case that came with MDA, cause the MDA is a real sleek aorodynamic design, but slippery device. For me anyway, many times It felt it could easily slip out of my hand. That's why I bought leather case. Even with leather, it has accidentaly snaped and fallen at least 3 or 4 times already, but thank goodness it was protected. Good luck bro. I would like to do same if possible, I like it new too. Sorry



Posted by: jonazen

Quote:
Originally Posted by i3onk
#@&$! i just dropped my MDA on the bricks in the backyard and put a fat ding in the side. You think they would give me a new one for something as minor as that? It is insured.


Oh my.

Wow.

Really sorry to hear that. Sheeesh - that's lousy. Hopefully insurance WILL pick it up for that. Good luck!



Posted by: MadDogX007

Quote:
Originally Posted by i3onk
OK I am at a loss then. If it isnt skinning when you start it up after boot up, Im not sure what it is. Post in the lakeridge forums. Im sure chris will help y ou in a heart beat.

http://www.lakeridgesoftware.com/forum/index.php


Im getting confused, when I thought I clearly new this.



Your bottom skin can be different. So comparing ur skin to same skin someone else is using could be like comparing apples and oranges. I have changed the bottom skin.

I know you know, but I changed buttons by simply using a paint program like shop pro 8, viewing both buttons from both skins side by side to determine what names to use, to replace on the skin Im using. Graphic names have to be named exactly as the designer named them on the skin u want to use. You can do that with music too.

For example, on skin I am using here, button was named: silverado_ButNormal.png

But the button I wanted to use from my older skin was named: Chromium_buttonnormal.png.

So I named the Chromium_buttonnormal.png > silverado_ButNormal.png and replaced the graphic directly to the WA2 MDA skin, then soft reset, bingo different bottom skin.



Posted by: i3onk

Quote:
Originally Posted by MadDogX007
Im getting confused, when I thought I clearly new this.



Your bottom skin can be different. So comparing ur skin to same skin someone else is using could be like comparing apples and oranges. I have changed the bottom skin.

I know you know, but I changed buttons by simply using a paint program like shop pro 8, viewing both buttons from both skins side by side to determine what names to use, to replace on the skin Im using. Graphic names have to be named exactly as the designer named them on the skin u want to use. You can do that with music too.

For example, on skin I am using here, button was named: silverado_ButNormal.png

But the button I wanted to use from my older skin was named: Chromium_buttonnormal.png.

So I named the Chromium_buttonnormal.png > silverado_ButNormal.png and replaced the graphic directly to the WA2 MDA skin, then soft reset, bingo different bottom skin.



You can also open up the skin file and somply change the names as well. That is what I did and renamed the skin file. This way I can simply add a few different graphics into the skin folder, change the file names on the skin file and BAM, I have two different skins in one folder. Thats what I did with my black and white skin. I added the graphics I wanted foe the bottom bar, opened the skin file and changed the file names for the bottom bar. I then saved the skin file as i3onk. One folder, two different skin sets with only adding a few graphics instead of a whole new skin folder.

Left Skin is Black and White that Juni made, right skin is the changes I made with the botttom bar and the text color.





Posted by: robpet2

I just had to say... my OEM mda stylus just broke(the tip that's curved) now I'm down to one... worst comes to worst I'm gonna use a old pen... might go to tmo store and see if they sell oem stylus - don't feel like ordering one w/ shipping being a third of the cost of the stylus



Posted by: i3onk

Quote:
Originally Posted by robpet2
I just had to say... my OEM mda stylus just broke(the tip that's curved) now I'm down to one... worst comes to worst I'm gonna use a old pen... might go to tmo store and see if they sell oem stylus - don't feel like ordering one w/ shipping being a third of the cost of the stylus



I got me a couple of these. inexpensive, and they work great. you have to keep it in a pocket or something but much weasier to handle than the OEM stylus.

http://www.stylisource.com/detail.a...duct_ID=T1012BW



Posted by: i3onk

Quote:
Originally Posted by changogrande
Tried the 5 second delay in boot time, didn't work. Checked out the Lakeridge forums, all I found was the too-many-DLL's-on-boot-up solution or the delay-boot-time solution. The first solution is a PITA, so I increased the delay in boot time to 10 seconds (you know, the American way--more is better!), and voila! Now my bottom bar looks like Jonazen's screen in the post above. First time ever. Wooohoooo!

Thanks, i3onk, for the info and the push in the right direction!



No problem man, thats what I am here for.



Posted by: jonazen

Well...as my posts last might mentioned, I bit the bullet and installed 2.21 ROM. Turned out to be painless...except for the time spent reinstalling apps. But as i3onk pointed out, it gets easier with experience. No surprises - just a bit of time.

Nice as my old black & white skins were, I had really gotten to like Blue Fidelity skin set from "bump that graphics", so in a fit of impulsiveness, I bought and downloaded it. Installed fine, and has skins for my main apps, including Wisbar, a Today them, SPB weather, PocketBreeze, ContactBreeze, iLauncher and many more.

Also found myself a new "lock" icon for use with "DeviceLock" - placed in my tray bar courtesy of iLauncher. As mentioned before, using DeviceLock with an icon in the tray lets me turn off the Lock Device item on the Today screen, saving precious real estate. There is what it looks like so far:


Thinking of getting a media player with a skinny Today item, so I can control it from the Today screen...

For the moment, though, with 2.21 and all this stuff loaded, my boot up memory (without running FreeUp RAM) WITH the USB cable attached (and ActiveSync running) is 17.5MB.

Now - I just disconnected my ActiveSync/USB cable and rebooted -- the MDA now starts up with 20.00MB free memory. At least 2 MB improvement over the prior version from the 2.17 custom ROM.

Looks good...having fun with this!



Posted by: jonazen

Quote:
Originally Posted by jonazen
...snip...
For the moment, though, with 2.21 and all this stuff loaded, my boot up memory (without running FreeUp RAM) WITH the USB cable attached (and ActiveSync running) is 17.5MB.

Now - I just disconnected my ActiveSync/USB cable and rebooted -- the MDA now starts up with 20.00MB free memory. At least 2 MB improvement over the prior version from the 2.17 custom ROM.

Looks good...having fun with this!


Update a couple of hours later:

Everything running, a few phone calls, messages and apps later (e.g., change profile via pzp, browse the web a bit, explore with Resco File Explorer) and I'm down to 19.40MB. Not bad at all! Very curious to see how it holds up over a day or two.

All in all, I'm getting an excellent first impression of 2.21. Also really like this new blue theme! Excellent detail (e.g., pocketbreeze icons smooth, 3d and very readable), and I love the task bar icons. They're larger than the typical Juni icons -- just as pretty, but easier to read an interpret (at least for me, without reading glasses on!). Very polished and complete set.



Posted by: i3onk

Quote:
Originally Posted by jonazen
Update a couple of hours later:

Everything running, a few phone calls, messages and apps later (e.g., change profile via pzp, browse the web a bit, explore with Resco File Explorer) and I'm down to 19.40MB. Not bad at all! Very curious to see how it holds up over a day or two.

All in all, I'm getting an excellent first impression of 2.21. Also really like this new blue theme! Excellent detail (e.g., pocketbreeze icons smooth, 3d and very readable), and I love the task bar icons. They're larger than the typical Juni icons -- just as pretty, but easier to read an interpret (at least for me, without reading glasses on!). Very polished and complete set.



OK, one of my apps must be sucking the crap out of my RAM. Half way through the day I was at 15.4M Maybe its my tray launcher, or maybe my AEButton plus. I dont know, but its driving me nuts.



Posted by: ilvla2

Hey I3, have you had this happen-my MDA created a new folder on the MiniSD card, labeled "Storage Card", then it relabled the main card to "Storage Card 2", well, the programs I had installed on the MiniSD stopped working due to the path name changing, and I had to reinstall them. Have you heard of this?



Posted by: MadDogX007

Quote:
Originally Posted by robpet2
I just had to say... my OEM mda stylus just broke(the tip that's curved) now I'm down to one... worst comes to worst I'm gonna use a old pen... might go to tmo store and see if they sell oem stylus - don't feel like ordering one w/ shipping being a third of the cost of the stylus


And what ever u do don't buy the one from thepocketsolution.com for the MDA that i posted earlier, I paid 15 bucks and it did NOT come with pen or reset (3 in 1) as they state! Very misleading! Even the box shows pen and reset and a no scratch tip material, but the stylus looks just like the one we have.

I posted this Jonazen on other screen site, see what you think?



Posted by: ilvla2

Quote:
Originally Posted by ilvla2
Hey I3, have you had this happen-my MDA created a new folder on the MiniSD card, labeled "Storage Card", then it relabled the main card to "Storage Card 2", well, the programs I had installed on the MiniSD stopped working due to the path name changing, and I had to reinstall them. Have you heard of this?



Any ideas on this MadDog?



Posted by: MadDogX007

Quote:
Originally Posted by ilvla2
Any ideas on this MadDog?


I can only tell you this bro, computers are the strangest animals. I had this happen to me long time ago, on a regular pc once, a 2nd shortcut link to the C drive. So like, da, I delted the thing, and it delted my C drive...?? Never knew why??

I learned then bro never delete anything recreating the root of something else. Check into it first. Very weird..


I had a nother experience just before bying MDA. I went to a Verizon store to check out the Treo700 when it first came out, before wising up, and put my iPaq SD 1 gig card in Treo to see if it would see all my files, it did. Then pulled it out, back to iPaq, went home, no problems, 1 day later my card was blank?? I never figured out why! Only happy I had just made a complete copy of SD card on PC just a week before incident. People want to know why Im a backup phanatic. My motto has, and will always be, never say never, and it's not a matter of if, but when crap happens with computers.



Posted by: ilvla2

Well, the only thing on the "Storage Card" file are three folders, Mail, Pocket IE, and Temporary Internet Files, which were also created on the Storage Card2. The system created these by itself, how, I'm not sure. I did install a cab to put that stuff on the MiniSD, but why it would create that is beyond me



Posted by: MadDogX007

Quote:
Originally Posted by ilvla2
Any ideas on this MadDog?


What I would do if I were this guy, I would backup my StorageCard2 immediately on pc. rename the storagecard on miniSD to storagecard 3, then rename storagecard2 back to storagecard. If it will not do this, cause if finds some sharing issue, he can reformat miniSD card using SKtools, and restore all his stuff from that pc backup he should have done. This will not effect anything, cause PPC will still be pointing stuff to the storagecard, which will still have all your files again.



Posted by: i3onk

Quote:
Originally Posted by ilvla2
Hey I3, have you had this happen-my MDA created a new folder on the MiniSD card, labeled "Storage Card", then it relabled the main card to "Storage Card 2", well, the programs I had installed on the MiniSD stopped working due to the path name changing, and I had to reinstall them. Have you heard of this?



Actually no I havent heard of anyone doint it, but I can understand it happening. If you relabeled your Storage card then the links in the registry for your apps wont work. The target they are looking for is no longer there. I am not sure what the storage card 2 thing is for. Maybe it is for partitioning a big enough card into two cards. Thats all I can think of. Maybe you should make the new folder storage card 2 instead of storage card. at the least, your apps will work again.



Posted by: ilvla2

Check my most previous post, see if that helps... I didn't explain myself too well, brain is mush today lol



Posted by: MadDogX007

Quote:
Originally Posted by ilvla2
Well, the only thing on the "Storage Card" file are three folders, Mail, Pocket IE, and Temporary Internet Files, which were also created on the Storage Card2. The system created these by itself, how, I'm not sure. I did install a cab to put that stuff on the MiniSD, but why it would create that is beyond me


That is why I would have a backup of your entire storagecard. Really, just copy and paste folder to pc. Then your free to change names, and reformat, what ever. You may even want to copy both as they are, just to play around with idea. You can alwasy copy and paste both storagecard and storagecard 2 back just to see if things are good. No easy answer bro, except to back up storagecard folder.



Posted by: MadDogX007

Quote:
Originally Posted by ilvla2
Well, the only thing on the "Storage Card" file are three folders, Mail, Pocket IE, and Temporary Internet Files, which were also created on the Storage Card2. The system created these by itself, how, I'm not sure. I did install a cab to put that stuff on the MiniSD, but why it would create that is beyond me



Final note: If you have these folders in storagecard2, and done a backup of storagecard2, which is where all ur files are now. I would just delete storagecard, and rename storagecard2, and be done with it.

Update: I put myself on the line for a trooper. I pulled up commander and renamed my storagecard to storagecard2, and it would not let me..



Posted by: ilvla2

EXCELLENT idea guys, gonna do it right now in fact, thanks!!



Posted by: MadDogX007

Quote:
Originally Posted by ilvla2
EXCELLENT idea guys, gonna do it right now in fact, thanks!!


Read previous post!



Posted by: ilvla2

Quote:
Originally Posted by MadDogX007
Final note: If you have these folders in storagecard2, and done a backup of storagecard2, which is where all ur files are now. I would just delete storagecard, and rename storagecard2, and be done with it.



I tried that, but it says I can't delete it, I get this error "Cannot delete 'index':There has been a sharing violation.

The source or destination file may be in use



Posted by: i3onk

OK I just had something really wierd happen. I was installing WAD and a new theme for it. Didnt realise it was a VGA theme till it took up all my memory and froze me up. NP! hard reset and restore right? After restore of latest backup I did this morning, activesync wouldnt work. and everything in my pocketbreeze/contactbreeze was gone. I dont f'n get it. I am doing another hard reset and restore now. Man this better work. How did I get a bad backup? I dont get it.

Update: WHEW!! The hard reset and re-restore worked fine. Thank the gods. I didnt feel like going through all of that install crap again. HEHE!



Posted by: i3onk

Man setting up a WAD with a WAD theme is a pain in the ***, lol.



Posted by: MadDogX007

Quote:
Originally Posted by i3onk
OK I just had something really wierd happen. I was installing WAD and a new theme for it. Didnt realise it was a VGA theme till it took up all my memory and froze me up. NP! hard reset and restore right? After restore of latest backup I did this morning, activesync wouldnt work. and everything in my pocketbreeze/contactbreeze was gone. I dont f'n get it. I am doing another hard reset and restore now. Man this better work. How did I get a bad backup? I dont get it.

Update: WHEW!! The hard reset and re-restore worked fine. Thank the gods. I didnt feel like going through all of that install crap again. HEHE!


Your not alone! That's happened to me before. A restore on first try has not worked, werid popups on restore from MSVC, another other stuff. Then I just restore backup again, and bingo good again. Weird.



Posted by: MadDogX007

Quote:
Originally Posted by i3onk
Man setting up a WAD with a WAS theme is a pain in the ***, lol.



I don't know, your a lot braver then I am constantly trying something else. I m just happy with wht I got, cause its more then I ever thought Id have.





Posted by: MadDogX007

Quote:
Originally Posted by ilvla2
I tried that, but it says I can't delete it, I get this error "Cannot delete 'index':There has been a sharing violation.

The source or destination file may be in use


I posted above that I tried that for you, and commander would not let me rename storagecard to storagecard2. Im thinking the best solution for you is activesync, bckup (copy/paste) storagecard2 folder to pc, then reformat storagecard on MDA, afterwards copy and past ONLY entire content in storagecard2 on pc to MDA newly formatted miniSD. This is quick solution if yo backed up contents as mentioned.



Posted by: ilvla2

Okay, so let me make sure I have this right-

1. Do an ActiveSync
2. Copy/Paste storagecard 2 folder to my pc
3. Reformat MiniSD
4. Copy/Paste ONLY the contents of the Storagecard 2 folder on my pc to the newly formatted MiniSD (known once again simply as "StorageCard".



Posted by: i3onk

Quote:
Originally Posted by MadDogX007
I don't know, your a lot braver then I am constantly trying something else. I m just happy with wht I got, cause its more then I ever thought Id have.



Well I have my Final backup of the way I like my device setup. I figured what the hell. I have actually started to figure it out. Its just going to take a while to get it just right. I may actually make a WAD backup when Im done playing with it for the night, then restore my Final backup until I am ready to start playing with it again. Just go back and forth till I get it right. Only problem is, I may have to uninstall some apps on my device and reinstall them to the minisd. Dont know how much memory this WAD is going to take up. Good times weeeeee



Posted by: jonazen

Quote:
Originally Posted by i3onk
OK, one of my apps must be sucking the crap out of my RAM. Half way through the day I was at 15.4M Maybe its my tray launcher, or maybe my AEButton plus. I dont know, but its driving me nuts.


Well...not necessarily tray launcher or AEButton plus... Now been 10 hours since I last reset the phone. Hardly used it since the last time I reported here, and my memory is down to 15.38MB -- and I don't use either of those apps. So something I'm using is also using up memory. Could be ActiveSync (haven't unhidden that yet in Wisbar's task manager, so I'm not sure). Don't know what to think.

One thing that's very interesting is that my battery is still showing at 100% -- also confirmed by using Voice Command to check the level. Is that weird or what?

Definitely need to experiment and tweak...



Posted by: MadDogX007

Quote:
Originally Posted by ilvla2
Okay, so let me make sure I have this right-

1. Do an ActiveSync
2. Copy/Paste storagecard 2 folder to my pc
3. Reformat MiniSD
4. Copy/Paste ONLY the contents of the Storagecard 2 folder on my pc to the newly formatted MiniSD (known once again simply as "StorageCard".


1 is good.
2. Once you copy/paste storagecard2 to ur pc, it should hve all your content included.
3 is good.
4 is good.
U got it!
Thats about it bro.. I've done it just like tht before.

Update: Think of it this way. If you were upgrading your miniSD to 2GB, like Im going to soon, you would perform same procedure to change all your stuff to new card.



Posted by: MadDogX007

Quote:
Originally Posted by jonazen
Well...not necessarily tray launcher or AEButton plus... Now been 10 hours since I last reset the phone. Hardly used it since the last time I reported here, and my memory is down to 15.38MB -- and I don't use either of those apps. So something I'm using is also using up memory. Could be ActiveSync (haven't unhidden that yet in Wisbar's task manager, so I'm not sure). Don't know what to think.

One thing that's very interesting is that my battery is still showing at 100% -- also confirmed by using Voice Command to check the level. Is that weird or what?

Definitely need to experiment and tweak...


Outside of a freeze that's new when i get out of wi-fi, not sure why, but not often, 2.21 has been much more stable for me with RAM, faster booting, and just seems better all around.

Byway Im on allofmymp3 again buying styx for like .12 cents a song, I love this site bro.



Posted by: ilvla2

Okay, I need to bug yaz one more time MadDog, now, my MindSD will be reformatted, will the programs still work fine, I mean, won't they look for the path "Storagecard2" and not "storage card"? Thanks for the help bro, mucho appreciated!



Posted by: i3onk

OK Im having fun with this now. Im starting to get it pretty good. Well soso, lol. Off to bed I go. Night all.



Posted by: ilvla2

Night i3onk, tata, cheerio and all that sort of rot



Posted by: ilvla2

Quote:
Originally Posted by ilvla2
Okay, I need to bug yaz one more time MadDog, now, my MindSD will be reformatted, will the programs still work fine, I mean, won't they look for the path "Storagecard2" and not "storage card"? Thanks for the help bro, mucho appreciated!


Nevermind, I got it all back to normal, thanks again bro!



Posted by: jonazen

Quote:
Originally Posted by MadDogX007
Outside of a freeze that's new when i get out of wi-fi, not sure why, but not often, 2.21 has been much more stable for me with RAM, faster booting, and just seems better all around.

Byway Im on allofmymp3 again buying styx for like .12 cents a song, I love this site bro.


Yeah - 2.21 "feels" better - even with wisbar loaded, the whole thing feels smoother and a bit quicker. Could be that memory will simply remain in the 16mb range after I've exercised all the apps. That's OK if it's the case. I'll have to wait and see.

Realizing now that things must be better this way -- I was really ready to uninstall Wisbar before, but now everything feels good enough so that it's not a problem.



Posted by: MadDogX007

Quote:
Originally Posted by ilvla2
Nevermind, I got it all back to normal, thanks again bro!


I would like to know what you did to reverse back to normal, it would be helpful to someone one day. Well that's a good questions about whether or not ur applications will find everything considering something changed your storagecard with a 2. Did that change registry?

But if this happens again, cause this could be a simple procedure, if you had a backup of your storagecard folder on PC and registry when all was working. Or it could have been a nightmare.

In a perfect world, here is the logic behind this (Keep in mind I do this quickly in my brain). If this would have heppend to me..

Scenario1: Reformat storagecard. Restore my files and folders (copy/paste) entire content from pc storagecard. Software works? Yes. Im good to go. NO! Restore good registry. Does software work? Yes. Good to go.

Scenario2: No! ... Software did not work. I got a problem! Reformat card again name it back to storagecard2, restore old registry (that i would have backed up again). Software work? Yes! Good. But then i would have to dig deeper, or reformat card and reload everythig again. But I honestly believe the first secenario would have worked right away.

By the way you can use commander to bckup registry, but I had no luck with tht. So I use Kelmist Regedit, cause it does a great job, easier to read registry and edit registry, then commander. But I had it already before the upgrade to 2.17/2.21 which includes Commander. Commander atleast saved me money from having to buy a good FPT, and solid file explorer.



Posted by: MadDogX007

Quote:
Originally Posted by jonazen
Yeah - 2.21 "feels" better - even with wisbar loaded, the whole thing feels smoother and a bit quicker. Could be that memory will simply remain in the 16mb range after I've exercised all the apps. That's OK if it's the case. I'll have to wait and see.

Realizing now that things must be better this way -- I was really ready to uninstall Wisbar before, but now everything feels good enough so that it's not a problem.


Yeah, memory has gone down a bit, but nowhere near what 2.17 was giving me. I now get bout just over 17 on reset, but using SKRam right away, works fast and gets me to over 18, and if I use it again immediately, just over 19. The thing I don't get is, why do we need to use SKRam UP just to get bck that RAM on a softreset in 1st place?

Update: just backup registry again, and softreset, had to use SKRam UP twice to get 19.1. Why need to do that, not sure. But it does't take long to start dropping again, just getting email down to 15MB. Need to use SKRam again lol



Posted by: MadDogX007

I think restoring my email msgs from old 2.17 to 2.21 has messed up my email. Does any one using Spb Diary know how to delete old email accounts. Cause their coming up on my Diary, but not outlook? I restored one with different name, but can't seem to get rid of older ones. I know the email is not functioning cause Diary and Outlook are not syncronizing, or something. I had this happen to me once before, but can't remember wht I did. Thks



Posted by: MadDogX007

Well it looks like Im not alone with this issue... http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=288749. And I too do not want to cold boot and start over with email..



Posted by: MadDogX007

I don't know who on this HOFO thread using Spb Diary daily, but I think if you upgrade to 2.17, or 2.21, I would not suggest restoring your old email accounts, you may have to cold boot to restore ur email again, Pain n The A if you started to reload everything. Some guy in XDA link above post, is trying to get answer from Spb, cause he and others have had same issue using Spb Backup with ROM upgrade and email.

The key thing with Spb Diary, my opinion, if u upgrade ROM versions is to restore from a custom Spb Backup for contacts, my documents, but NOT email. This way Diary email is clean, and you can setup ur accounts manually with outlook, after that start backups again with email. Cause this is way to frustrating, and Spb Diary and Outlook need to sync. Even if you use a 3rd party emailer, for emergency purposes, if u had too, why I keep a 3rd party mail editor on miniSD, u can set it up for email, but will not work with Dairy. Just incase your away and need email. Cause I cannot get email with Diary now, not till I figure out how to create new accounts with outlook. I created one, but not easy to get outlook up now to setup new accounts, and even harder to delete the old accounts from db on Diary.



Posted by: MadDogX007

Spb Diary/ Outlook/ ROM Upgrade update:

I seem to be working on my own problem here, cause no time to wait for answers.

I decided to remove Spb Diary. Now WM5 is not exactly a science when it comes to removing apps, but it did, and several questions poped up in reference to keeping old Diary configuration for future use, i simply said NO. Cause I will re install Diary, and it will pickup contacts and new email accounts, which I will 1st configure with out look now. Better then cold boot bro's.

Well this worked, and oulook popped up and I setup my accounts again. Hard lesson to learn. Next ROM upgrade I will NOT restore my old email accounts before setting them up with outlook, then re installing Diary.



Posted by: stalsania

k , can n e one plz help me,
i m new in the MDA thing
my problem is tht everytime i delet programm through remove programms tht comes w/ phone, it doesnt delet most of the time.
thn whn i go through activesync add/remove programm, also it doesnt remove from my phone.
at the end whn i go to files n programm n delet the folder of tht programm thn it erase, but still logo of tht software stays in my prgramms.

can n e one help me in tht one
plz
thx



Posted by: jonazen

Quote:
Originally Posted by MadDogX007
Well it looks like Im not alone with this issue... http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=288749. And I too do not want to cold boot and start over with email..


So...I followed your link to xda-developers and noticed a bunch of posts that sounded like the exact same problem you were describing...THEN I notice that the poster is...MadDogX007...

Ah well. Just me being a tad slow on a Sunday night.

Switching topics a bit:

I restarted my MDA again a few hours ago, only I did NOT have it plugged into my pc at the time or since. Still showing 19.8 MB free RAM, and I haven't run FreeUp RAM. Really thinking that ActiveStink is a major culprit. I may try the advice re: temporarily adding a new server, setting the sync to manual instead of automatic, etc, etc, etc. Alternative might be to browse the registry entries for ActiveSync to see if I can figure out where it's tripping the auto sync...



Posted by: i3onk

Quote:
Originally Posted by jonazen
So...I followed your link to xda-developers and noticed a bunch of posts that sounded like the exact same problem you were describing...THEN I notice that the poster is...MadDogX007...

Ah well. Just me being a tad slow on a Sunday night.

Switching topics a bit:

I restarted my MDA again a few hours ago, only I did NOT have it plugged into my pc at the time or since. Still showing 19.8 MB free RAM, and I haven't run FreeUp RAM. Really thinking that ActiveStink is a major culprit. I may try the advice re: temporarily adding a new server, setting the sync to manual instead of automatic, etc, etc, etc. Alternative might be to browse the registry entries for ActiveSync to see if I can figure out where it's tripping the auto sync...


i have tried that once, only found one entry refering to activesync. Hope you have better luck than I did at it.



Posted by: nyvram

Maddog, that is exactly why I don't worry about a backup & just reinstall all those apps fresh..dont want any nagging 'sync' problems or anything..I figure if 221 is nice & fresh...my apps should be too! ;-P

So I guess I'm the only one who hasn't installed 221 yet huh? Geez, I go camping for a few days & this is what happens...!

PS 5 sec delay on wisbar didn't solve it for me either..but 10 secs does! My 'bottom' buttons are back now. I'll keep taht in mind when I go to 221 as well.



Posted by: JVCX007

Quote:
Originally Posted by i3onk
i have tried that once, only found one entry refering to activesync. Hope you have better luck than I did at it.


Hey troops Im baaaaaaack. Hofo locked me out again! Hehehehehe. Nothing worse then commuication with webmaster on hofo bros. Forget it. I can only hope the site sends me email some day soon. Had to change my email again in HOFO, and system, again, will not send me confirmation to click back and log in. I dreaded that, but had no choice.

Your friendly MadDogX007



Posted by: JVCX007

Quote:
Originally Posted by jonazen
So...I followed your link to xda-developers and noticed a bunch of posts that sounded like the exact same problem you were describing...THEN I notice that the poster is...MadDogX007...

Ah well. Just me being a tad slow on a Sunday night.

Switching topics a bit:

I restarted my MDA again a few hours ago, only I did NOT have it plugged into my pc at the time or since. Still showing 19.8 MB free RAM, and I haven't run FreeUp RAM. Really thinking that ActiveStink is a major culprit. I may try the advice re: temporarily adding a new server, setting the sync to manual instead of automatic, etc, etc, etc. Alternative might be to browse the registry entries for ActiveSync to see if I can figure out where it's tripping the auto sync...


Me again!! Locked out again!! Well the original posts on XDA were not mine, but I contributed later. I had to cold boot device again in reference to those posts, cause I realized I had not made a copy of phase 1, as I have talked about so much. Anyway, had to change email, and did not want to keep using email from HOFO, so Im locked out again.



Posted by: JVCX007

Quote:
Originally Posted by stalsania
k , can n e one plz help me,
i m new in the MDA thing
my problem is tht everytime i delet programm through remove programms tht comes w/ phone, it doesnt delet most of the time.
thn whn i go through activesync add/remove programm, also it doesnt remove from my phone.
at the end whn i go to files n programm n delet the folder of tht programm thn it erase, but still logo of tht software stays in my prgramms.

can n e one help me in tht one
plz
thx


Welcome to the world of WM5 bro. Un installing apps is no science and most of time does not work correctly. Send gates a letter of frustration. To delete apps in WM5 requires a masters degree.

Remove from un install list, remove from Windows/Startup, remove registry associations, delete folder, and maybe, just maybe you got a clear un install.



Posted by: i3onk

Hey MadDog/JVC lol Damn skitzo. HAHA!!

Just thought I would elt you know. I just took a look at your site. (Thanx for the mentions ) The KB skin doesnt work on the MDA. Not sure why, but I have tried a few times and they just dont work. Now if you have Resco KB, then you can install Resco KB skins and those work fine.



Posted by: JVCX007

Quote:
Originally Posted by nyvram
Maddog, that is exactly why I don't worry about a backup & just reinstall all those apps fresh..dont want any nagging 'sync' problems or anything..I figure if 221 is nice & fresh...my apps should be too! ;-P

So I guess I'm the only one who hasn't installed 221 yet huh? Geez, I go camping for a few days & this is what happens...!

PS 5 sec delay on wisbar didn't solve it for me either..but 10 secs does! My 'bottom' buttons are back now. I'll keep taht in mind when I go to 221 as well.


Yeah it's MadDogX007 Mad that HOFO locked me out again . So you don't believe in backups ha, good, cruising for a bruising bro. Restoring a backup after a ROM upgrade is not something I would do. I screwed up with email restoring from 2.17, but not to do backups of different phases? Im pretty good at restoring myself after cold boots, but frankly I'd take a self extracting backup anytime, especially one that took me long, long, time to configure properly. I for one feel it's tidious to go through hacks, and owner info, and configurations, yada,yada, ... I'd rather be fishing, and restoring quickly from backup.. But that's me dos centavos bro.



Posted by: JVCX007

Quote:
Originally Posted by i3onk
Hey MadDog/JVC lol Damn skitzo. HAHA!!

Just thought I would elt you know. I just took a look at your site. (Thanx for the mentions ) The KB skin doesnt work on the MDA. Not sure why, but I have tried a few times and they just dont work. Now if you have Resco KB, then you can install Resco KB skins and those work fine.



I know that bro, you made it clear the other day, just havent the time to remove them yet. Im hoping to find an answer somewhere.. Did you ask that guy you were talking too about the MDA and KB skins



Posted by: JVCX007

Quote:
Originally Posted by i3onk
Hey MadDog/JVC lol Damn skitzo. HAHA!!

Just thought I would elt you know. I just took a look at your site. (Thanx for the mentions ) The KB skin doesnt work on the MDA. Not sure why, but I have tried a few times and they just dont work. Now if you have Resco KB, then you can install Resco KB skins and those work fine.



Links, links bro to resco kB? Im just a substitute for MadDogX007 who is mad at HOFO again



Posted by: changogrande

Quote:
Originally Posted by i3onk
Hey MadDog/JVC lol Damn skitzo. HAHA!!

That's funny, i3onk!



Posted by: JVCX007

Quote:
Originally Posted by MadDogX007
Well it looks like Im not alone with this issue... http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=288749. And I too do not want to cold boot and start over with email..


Hey MadDog your incredible, your amazing, oh it's me..



Posted by: i3onk

Quote:
Originally Posted by JVCX007
Links, links bro to resco kB? Im just a substitute for MadDogX007 who is mad at HOFO again



Resco KB

http://www.resco.net/pocketpc/keyboard/default.asp

nice app, built in calculator and a few other nice features including skins.



Posted by: JVCX007

Quote:
Originally Posted by i3onk
Resco KB

http://www.resco.net/pocketpc/keyboard/default.asp

nice app, built in calculator and a few other nice features including skins.


Dang bro, nice KB's. But 20 Bucaroos. By time Im done with this thing, it will have cost me fortunes. Got to think about this, but KB's are nice.

MadDogX007 over and out



Posted by: i3onk

Quote:
Originally Posted by JVCX007
Dang bro, nice KB's. But 20 Bucaroos. By time Im done with this thing, it will have cost me fortunes. Got to think about this, but KB's are nice.

MadDogX007 over and out



I actually got a Resco package deal. Included KB pro, explorer(ftp and reg editor included), and photo viewer. Was like $40.



Posted by: i3onk

Ok I have been doing some playing around with the Silverado WA2 theme. Do you like it better with the startmenu button on the right or no start menu button at all?



I actualyl don't even need a startmenu button. I never use it. You can also leave the title bar to open the startmenu on tap. I have my left soft button mapped to open the startmenu on a double tap. (God I love AEButton Plus)



Posted by: ilvla2

Quote:
Originally Posted by MadDogX007
I would like to know what you did to reverse back to normal, it would be helpful to someone one day. Well that's a good questions about whether or not ur applications will find everything considering something changed your storagecard with a 2. Did that change registry?

But if this happens again, cause this could be a simple procedure, if you had a backup of your storagecard folder on PC and registry when all was working. Or it could have been a nightmare.

In a perfect world, here is the logic behind this (Keep in mind I do this quickly in my brain). If this would have heppend to me..

Scenario1: Reformat storagecard. Restore my files and folders (copy/paste) entire content from pc storagecard. Software works? Yes. Im good to go. NO! Restore good registry. Does software work? Yes. Good to go.

Scenario2: No! ... Software did not work. I got a problem! Reformat card again name it back to storagecard2, restore old registry (that i would have backed up again). Software work? Yes! Good. But then i would have to dig deeper, or reformat card and reload everythig again. But I honestly believe the first secenario would have worked right away.

By the way you can use commander to bckup registry, but I had no luck with tht. So I use Kelmist Regedit, cause it does a great job, easier to read registry and edit registry, then commander. But I had it already before the upgrade to 2.17/2.21 which includes Commander. Commander atleast saved me money from having to buy a good FPT, and solid file explorer.



As soon as I can write up what I did, I will put it up. I have to remember it, let's see, first I cursed my MDA out then...lol

Great tip on Commander, thanks bro! What program do you use to backup your MDA? I am looking for a good one, but I haven't done so yet.



Posted by: i3onk

Damnit I just cant stop, lol. I just installed newmenu for WM5. Mapped it to my right softkey since I dont use the contacts buton. Thats what contact breeze is for right?

Getting ready to test out the Treu Toolbar from MadJvc's site, lol.


Update:: Ok I dont really have a use for True Toolbar. It sets my leftsoftkey to phone and I like it set to resco. Not too mention I already have 2 task managers running already, lol. One from WA2 and one from AEButton plus. I liek the AEButton task manager better. I have it mapped to left soft key triple tap. Scroll to the app I want to close and hit Right D-pad, and it closes. You guys HAVE to check out AEbutton Plus. Especially if you are using smartskey. You will wonder why you ever wasted yout time with smarts key.

Alexander (creator of AEButton Plus) just relewased a new version that lets you map your red phone key. Single tap closes active app, double tap runs the momory panel, triple tap shows today screen (minimizes active app). You can map any button to do anything you want. You can map to single tap, double tap, triple tap and tap and hold. While it does cause about a .5-1 second delay in the button response, it is well worth it considering the one handed funcionality it gives you.

And since I am such a damn sweetheart........

http://www.savefile.com/files/2075656



Posted by: ilvla2

RIght on, thanks sweetheart! (Don't be getting poofy ideas from that either ) Will that program work okay with Smartskey, or is there really any need for it with this program?



Posted by: nyvram

I'd still like OMAP to run on startup and soft-reset as well. Can aebutton do that? That's the main reason I like smartskey is the way it manages OMAP.



Posted by: intothevoid

Hi,
I just got myself the Tmobile MDA and so far its working quite all right. Waiting on my mini SD Card in the mail. Can't wait to install some more pograms. Just wanted to know if there is any specific posts with all the tips and tricks that have been discussed in this extremely long discussion?, I am assuming there is no AKU2 update for the MDA as of yet is there?. And any suggestions for prolonging battery life ??



Posted by: ilvla2

I agree nyvram, that's one of the reasons I have Smartskey.



Posted by: i3onk

Quote:
Originally Posted by ilvla2
RIght on, thanks sweetheart! (Don't be getting poofy ideas from that either ) Will that program work okay with Smartskey, or is there really any need for it with this program?


With AEButton Plus there is no need for smartskey


Quote:
Originally Posted by nyvram
I'd still like OMAP to run on startup and soft-reset as well. Can aebutton do that? That's the main reason I like smartskey is the way it manages OMAP.


Thats easy man. Find the desired clcok that you wish to run OMAP at then create a shortcut with this inside of it

40#"\Program Files\OmapClock\OmapClock.exe" -clock 216

change the 216 to the speed you want it to run at. Then just paste the shortcut into your windows\startup folder.

Everytime you reboot the device OMPA will run at the speed you want it too.

****WARNING**** Test the speed you want to run at unless you know what is stable on your device before doing this. You dont want to boot up at a speed that is unstable causeing your device to reset after every reboot.



Posted by: i3onk

OK this ia a really nice find. Something that I missed on the MDA that I had on my A630

I miss having individual ringtones for text messages. Camt believe they exluded this from the MDA. But here is an app that will bring it back. Its a beta version, but so far seams to work great for me. The only problem I have with it, is it uses wav files that you pu tin your windows folder. Im going to email mort and see if he can make it compatible with mp3's in the rings folder also.

http://www.savefile.com/files/1451691

Enjoy



Posted by: djayrage

Quote:
Originally Posted by ilvla2
Okay, so let me make sure I have this right-

1. Do an ActiveSync
2. Copy/Paste storagecard 2 folder to my pc
3. Reformat MiniSD
4. Copy/Paste ONLY the contents of the Storagecard 2 folder on my pc to the newly formatted MiniSD (known once again simply as "StorageCard".


Unnecessary, I have the same problem happen to me very often (about once a week, usually overnight). What I do to fix it is simple remove the minisd card, open up file explorer, and delete the /storage card folder that is on the device itself (it should be empty). Reinsert the minisd card & you should be good to go.



Posted by: i3onk

Hey MadJvc, LOL that kills me.

Do you have the problem with the siverado WA2 skin, where when you go to landscape mode it turns the top bar blue?

Update:: Nevermind I foudn the problem. was missing an image name in the skin file, under the topbar section. should say

Landscape=silverado_titlebar_landscape.png



Posted by: Scaw

Quote:
Originally Posted by i3onk

40#"\Program Files\OmapClock\OmapClock.exe" -clock 216

change the 216 to the speed you want it to run at. Then just paste the shortcut into your windows\startup folder.

Everytime you reboot the device OMPA will run at the speed you want it too.

This works for reboots, but does not work when your device wakes up from stand by.

Nyvram, you may want to have a look at this article on the HTC Wizard Web. If you register there (free), you'll find OMAPclock as well as Smartskey attached to the article. The article itself gives some pointers about the installation and the configuration file. Included with the Smartskey is a PDF with instructions.

Smartskeys lets you run OMAPclock after reboots as well as after waking up from stand by. The only other way to do that is using Memmaid, which is payware and somewhat more complicated.



Posted by: i3onk

Here is also a pretty detailed instruction on how to set up OMAP using memmaid if you choose to do so. Ther is a wordpad doc inside the zip.

http://www.savefile.com/files/2960352



Posted by: nyvram

Ok, at what point did I miss the exodus from SPB diary to PocketBreeze? Suddenly it looks like everyone has migrated to SBSH software instead of SPB and didn't tell me.

Am I going to have to go buy that now too to keep up with the Jones'es (or Maddog'es or i3onkses or the jonazenses)?



Posted by: nyvram

Quote:
Originally Posted by i3onk
Hey MadJvc, LOL that kills me.

Do you have the problem with the siverado WA2 skin, where when you go to landscape mode it turns the top bar blue?

Update:: Nevermind I foudn the problem. was missing an image name in the skin file, under the topbar section. should say

Landscape=silverado_titlebar_landscape.png


My Silverado does that too...weird blue stuff when I swtich to landscape. Where did you find the missing file?



Posted by: i3onk

Actually MadJvc loves his SBP Diary. I prefer pocket/contact breeze, but I stilluse SBP pocket plus. I believe Jona is an SBSH man. We all use SBP backup. Its just personal preference man.



Posted by: nyvram

Ah..ok well you're helping the OCD side of me feel better. ;-)

I guess I hadn't noticed Jonazen had been using Pocketbreeze all along..it does look very similar to 'diary'.

PS I'm also curious what functionality you gain with the 'contactbreeze' app if you're using MSVC? I guess I'm spoiled but I don't call anyone except by MSVC. If it brings back 'contact groups' to send mms or sms or emails to groups of people with one entry selction, I would buy it in a heartbeat.

I'm still surprised no one has found a way to email multiple people at the same time using some type of trick with a contact but so far nothing. I even tried to set up my gmail to auto forward certain emails I send to it to a group of people but that wouldn't work either.

There has to a solution to this issue. I don't like having to manually select 5-6 emails when sending an mms..with my old nokia i could take a pic & send it to 6 people all with one hand in about 3 seconds. WIth the MDA it takes me 1-2 minutes to complete that process since I have to select each contact individually and its such a pain to get to them. (Ie having to use the stylus to click on the 'to' text to bring up the contacts...terrible terrible UI oversight by MSFT.



Posted by: JVCX007

Quote:
Originally Posted by i3onk
Actually MadJvc loves his SBP Diary. I prefer pocket/contact breeze, but I stilluse SBP pocket plus. I believe Jona is an SBSH man. We all use SBP backup. Its just personal preference man.


But there was a difference if I recall. Maybe you guys can set me straight on this.. but. If I recall the reason I chose Spb Diary over PB was the links on the emails did not work for me with PB. But worked for me with Diary.

Remember I3onk. We had that issue with Opera as default browser and links would not work, except you found out, they work if you don't use default with opera. But it worked for me anyway after I installed Diary.

In otherwords, with PB on today when you clicked on email, you get same popup window with email, but there is no links with PB. With Diary, it gives you links and links to opera easily.

Anway, not an argument, just a point of view here..

Still MadDogX007 Mad at no access!!



Posted by: nyvram

PS Jonazen etal, whenever I exit the 'comm manager' in 217 it also goves to the 'activesync' screen automaticaly so its not something new with 221.



Posted by: JVCX007

Quote:
Originally Posted by nyvram
My Silverado does that too...weird blue stuff when I swtich to landscape. Where did you find the missing file?


Interesting! I have not used landscape mode in quite a while, not sure why, too lazy I guess. i will try know and report..

Update: Wow that is quite interesting. Blue top!

Lets check into this.. Maybe its' the graphic file for landscape?


MadDogX007



Posted by: i3onk

For the fix for Silverado, open the skin file. Towards the top is the topbar section. The landscape should read,

Landscape=silverado_titlebar_landscape.png

That will fix it.



Posted by: i3onk

Quote:
Originally Posted by JVCX007
But there was a difference if I recall. Maybe you guys can set me straight on this.. but. If I recall the reason I chose Spb Diary over PB was the links on the emails did not work for me with PB. But worked for me with Diary.

Remember I3onk. We had that issue with Opera as default browser and links would not work, except you found out, they work if you don't use default with opera. But it worked for me anyway after I installed Diary.

In otherwords, with PB on today when you clicked on email, you get same popup window with email, but there is no links with PB. With Diary, it gives you links and links to opera easily.

Anway, not an argument, just a point of view here..

Still MadDogX007 Mad at no access!!



You are right. That is why you stuck with Diary and I did not. I didnt open Opera for me as default, but it did for you. Im still puzzled on that one, lol.



Posted by: nyvram

Thanks i3onk.

Technically its a file you're editing, not a folder. go here:

/program files/lakeridge/sa_silverado/skin.tsk (I think thats the right extension)

Open that w/ a text editor then cruise down until you see the landscape section i3onk is talking about and make the tweak to the filename.

I'm currently rebooting (closing & reopening wisbar didn't fix it) so I'll let you know shortly if that fixed it for me.



Posted by: i3onk

Quote:
Originally Posted by nyvram
Thanks i3onk.

Technically its a file you're editing, not a folder. go here:

/program files/lakeridge/sa_silverado/skin.tsk (I think thats the right extension)

Open that w/ a text editor then cruise down until you see the landscape section i3onk is talking about and make the tweak to the filename.

I'm currently rebooting (closing & reopening wisbar didn't fix it) so I'll let you know shortly if that fixed it for me.


LOL I dont know why I typed folder instead of file HAHA! I fixed that.

It will work, I did it this morning.



Posted by: nyvram

Nope..didn't work for me. I even rebooted it. Let me look again carefully..hopefully total commander changed my settings.

PS I'm testing it by opening & closing the camera app since the camera forces the phone to landscape mode.



Posted by: nyvram

oh wait..there's another place in the file where it says 'landscape=[blank]'

Is that where I should have enetered that pic? argh! Now i screwed up something else in the file I think b/c adding that fixed it.

i3onk..can you cruise about 1/2 down in the skin file & tell me what the 'landscape=' says under the [Today Menubar] section? I changed that & don't know what it was originally now.



Posted by: i3onk

I just changed it on my desktop then copied the file into the silverado theme folder.



Posted by: nyvram

i was able to edit it successfully using total commander right on the phone itself..but i changed it in the wrong place in the file



Posted by: i3onk

haha Woops



Posted by: nyvram

WOW.

Hey guys (and gals).

I just noticed that Wisbar is 'skinning' the little dialogs that come up & say 'you have mail.'.

Check it compared to the older one.

I wonder if this is due to the '10 second delay' I put in the startup..could be that several of my app components were not skinning correctly b/c now I see skinned buttons all over the dang place on the phone where I didn't before!

Coolness! Now if we can get rid of that BLACK & WHITE keyboard....





Posted by: JVCX007

Quote:
Originally Posted by nyvram
WOW.

Hey guys (and gals).

I just noticed that Wisbar is 'skinning' the little dialogs that come up & say 'you have mail.'.

Check it compared to the older one.

I wonder if this is due to the '10 second delay' I put in the startup..could be that several of my app components were not skinning correctly b/c now I see skinned buttons all over the dang place on the phone where I didn't before!

Coolness! Now if we can get rid of that BLACK & WHITE keyboard....



Hey that skin looks good on left bro, where'd ur get it? Kidding. Haha.

I pulled up Silverado to see all the graphic files, not sure where that darn blue top bar is coming from in landscape, but you get stuck with it after that, unless you go back to settings? I emailed Author LightMan. Hope he has a clue?

If not I am going to try to play around with it, just to see if I get rid of it, cause it will haunt meeeeeee! And I hate being haunted See what u come up on ur end. Cause if I can't figure this out, which is rare, but not a genius, or I will have to change skin. I tried other skins, like Metallic, and more, non do that, only Silverado. It figures only the skin I like..



Posted by: i3onk

Quote:
Originally Posted by JVCX007
Hey that skin looks good on left bro, where'd ur get it? Kidding. Haha.

I pulled up Silverado to see all the graphic files, not sure where that darn blue top bar is coming from in landscape, but you get stuck with it after that, unless you go back to settings? I emailed Author LightMan. Hope he has a clue?

If not I am going to try to play around with it, just to see if I get rid of it, cause it will haunt meeeeeee! And I hate being haunted See what u come up on ur end. Cause if I can't figure this out, which is rare, but not a genius, or I will have to change skin. I tried other skins, like Metallic, and more, non do that, only Silverado. It figures only the skin I like..


The blue topbar is due to the landscape image not being referenced in the skin file. If you reference it like i posted previously it will fix it no problems at all.



Posted by: i3onk

Well here is what i settled on. I like the way it looks and works. Would be nice if he would have skinned those other two tabs on the pocket breeze but thats OK I guess.



I changed the text on my bottom buttons to make the GF happy. I told her, see if I didnt spend all the time on this thing that I do, I wouldnt have known how to do this. LOL she gave me that look like she knew I was trying to get over on something, then she smiled HEHE.



Posted by: JVCX007

Quote:
Originally Posted by i3onk
Well here is what i settled on. I like the way it looks and works. Would be nice if he would have skinned those other two tabs on the pocket breeze but thats OK I guess.



I changed the text on my bottom buttons to make the GF happy. I told her, see if I didnt spend all the time on this thing that I do, I wouldnt have known how to do this. LOL she gave me that look like she knew I was trying to get over on something, then she smiled HEHE.


What skin is this? Looks familiar..



Posted by: i3onk

Silverado with the chormium background. There is a sweet Chromuim WAD skin in the lakeridge forums, but its only for VGA and the guy wont make a QVGA one :s ******* lol. He did a great job on the VGA one.



Posted by: i3onk

WOW! Chekcing my savefile statistics, I see alot of you liked the idea of the Mort Ringer. Glad I could put up apps that people like.



Posted by: JVCX007

Quote:
Originally Posted by i3onk
Silverado with the chormium background. There is a sweet Chromuim WAD skin in the lakeridge forums, but its only for VGA and the guy wont make a QVGA one :s ******* lol. He did a great job on the VGA one.


Got that from my ftp? Then ur having same issue in landscape that top bar changes to blue? If yes what are u doing about this bro?



Posted by: nyvram

Maddog, its a simple fix..you can do it with total commander:

/program files/lakeridge/sa_silverado/skin.skin

open the skin file. Towards the top it says:

landscape=

Change that to:

Landscape=silverado_titlebar_landscape.png

Hit 'save' and its fixed. I don't think you even have to restart wisbar.



Posted by: JVCX007

Quote:
Originally Posted by nyvram
Maddog, its a simple fix..you can do it with total commander:

/program files/lakeridge/sa_silverado/skin.skin

open the skin file. Towards the top it says:

landscape=

Change that to:

Landscape=silverado_titlebar_landscape.png

Hit 'save' and its fixed. I don't think you even have to restart wisbar.


Crap now you tell me.. I just finished renaming all the proper icons graphic files for top bar from Silverado to my last skin whihc is metalic and I liked it, and goes well with theme and silverado buttons. Now Im testinng new silverado...Oh well, if this doesn't work I'll do what u said.

I screwed something up doing what I did, so had to copy/paste the silverado again. Got it back, but I don't see this file skin.skin?? /program files/lakeridge/WisBar Advance/ Then I got another folder named Themes (were themes are) and a bunch of files strting with config.ini... Somethings weird with our setups.

You got WA2, not another version>?



Posted by: nyvram

no no..sorry. Its called 'silverado.skin'.

/program files/lakeridge/wisbar/sa_silverado/silverado.skin

For instnace, the default file is this:

/program files/lakeridge/wisbar/waDefault/waDefault.skin

Where do you hvae yours installed at on your phone?

I think I left out a directory inthe path before...



Posted by: JVCX007

Quote:
Originally Posted by nyvram
no no..sorry. Its called 'silverado.skin'.

/program files/lakeridge/wisbar/sa_silverado/silverado.skin

For instnace, the default file is this:

/program files/lakeridge/wisbar/waDefault/waDefault.skin

Where do you hvae yours installed at on your phone?

I think I left out a directory inthe path before...



So far what ur saying makes more sense, cause I do have up to this point. /program files/lakeridge/wisbar/ After wisbar\ there is a \Theme folder were I placed my "silverado" skin. But in the wisbar folder there are a bunch of files, about dozen or so, but NO waDefault.skin. lol

In the silverado folder, I don't have a waDefault.skin? I do have a Silverado.skin but can't open with commander?

Update: Wait a minute.... I do have in the Wisbar Advance\Theme a folder called WADefault. In that folder I do have a file called WADefault.skin but can't open with commander. That's the Wisbar default skin, if you got no other skins.. Common bro, your close.. but no cigar..

Update. Updated. O.K. the file was named sliverado.skin. And it's found for me in the \Theme\Silverado folder. To edit this file you can't clidk on it, you got to highlight it, then use the word pad icon on commander. Yes, then I see the line: landscape=0 But that did not work for me immediately after saving, again using the floppy icon, I am resetting to see.. O.K. very cool bro.... It worked, but had to soft reset.

I should have seen that coming, instead of waisting all that time doing icons for another skin, cause i have used configure files before, but did not think clearly to do that..

MadDogX007 over and mad at HOFO out!!



Posted by: braddah_man

everytime i try to log onto AIM it gives me a communication error message and to check my settings. can someone help me out with this?



Posted by: i3onk

OK for those of you who are having the issue with the Silverado skin just DL this file and put it in
program files\lakeridge\wisbaradvance\themes\silverado

http://www.savefile.com/files/8476223

That will fix the blue top bar problem.



Posted by: JVCX007

On good notes i got credit on the stylus i bought and was told to keep it. Justice does exist. Also their going to change the wordings on site in ref to stylus having s pen. So my opinion of the vendor has changed big time.



Posted by: jonazen

Quote:
Originally Posted by JVCX007
On good notes i got credit on the stylus i bought and was told to keep it. Justice does exist. Also their going to change the wordings on site in ref to stylus having s pen. So my opinion of the vendor has changed big time.


Excellent - good to hear it! That's a happy ending.

Well...big changes for me. Started a new job today, and was, of course, issued a company phone -- a blackberry... Still carrying the MDA for a while, since there are about 300 friends and former clients who generally reach me that way. But I have a feeling that my MDA time may be winding down soon! (aaak!). Just when I'm getting it really hammered into shape. For now I'll carry both... Ah well...



Posted by: nyvram

Jon...say it ain't so!! Oh nooooo! We *NEED* you here. Don't be a crackberry head...they're just plain evil.



Posted by: jonazen

Quote:
Originally Posted by nyvram
Jon...say it ain't so!! Oh nooooo! We *NEED* you here. Don't be a crackberry head...they're just plain evil.


We'll see. Wild environment I just jumped into. Have to see how much room there is for me to influence the operation as opposed to getting swept up in their storm of the way they do things now. For now, I'll keep the MDA and T-Mo accounts (one of the lines is on contract for another 18 mos anyway!). Just have a feeling that my time here will be sparse for a while...



Posted by: i3onk

Well congrats on the new job Jona.



Posted by: JVCX007

Quote:
Originally Posted by jonazen
Excellent - good to hear it! That's a happy ending.

Well...big changes for me. Started a new job today, and was, of course, issued a company phone -- a blackberry... Still carrying the MDA for a while, since there are about 300 friends and former clients who generally reach me that way. But I have a feeling that my MDA time may be winding down soon! (aaak!). Just when I'm getting it really hammered into shape. For now I'll carry both... Ah well...


Sad day when your gone bro, but the truth is, nothing is for ever. Were all here by some magical moment for a time. This has been the best board/thread i have had the experience of joining, but who knows wht the future has for anyone of us. Good Luck on the job, I am sure your excited. Blackberry ha? Oh well.



Posted by: JVCX007

Quote:
Originally Posted by braddah_man
everytime i try to log onto AIM it gives me a communication error message and to check my settings. can someone help me out with this?


Not sure what ur asking. Give some information. Are you using Wi-Fi with AIM? Are u using Edge/Gprs with AIM? What AIM version? The TMO version? The Internet version? Are you setup properly to get online? Have u tested other things like email, or other software that get online using Wi-Fi or gprs/edge?

Not sure if i have the answer, but more info u give better chances of someone responding.

Just food for thought



Posted by: braddah_man

Quote:
Originally Posted by JVCX007
Not sure what ur asking. Give some information. Are you using Wi-Fi with AIM? Are u using Edge/Gprs with AIM? What AIM version? The TMO version? The Internet version? Are you setup properly to get online? Have u tested other things like email, or other software that get online using Wi-Fi or gprs/edge?

Not sure if i have the answer, but more info u give better chances of someone responding.

Just food for thought

sorry about that. i'm using the regular edge/gprs, i think in the area i'm generally in it's usually gprs, and it's the tmo version that comes on the handset. i appear to be setup properly. i have the total internet add-on, my internet works fine, and i tried yahoo messanger and it worked fine. it was kind of lagging though a lot, and when i tried to sign out of yahoo it wouldn't let me. it was taking way too long. could it be a handset defect?



Posted by: i3onk

Quote:
Originally Posted by braddah_man
sorry about that. i'm using the regular edge/gprs, i think in the area i'm generally in it's usually gprs, and it's the tmo version that comes on the handset. i appear to be setup properly. i have the total internet add-on, my internet works fine, and i tried yahoo messanger and it worked fine. it was kind of lagging though a lot, and when i tried to sign out of yahoo it wouldn't let me. it was taking way too long. could it be a handset defect?



Ok, there you have it. It is the OZ Pocket messenger you are using that is the problem. There are so many issues with it, too many to list here. if you are looking for just an AIM program, try the AIM 2.0 on jvc's ftp. if you are looking for a multiplatform messenger, you want to look into Agile messenger or IM+. I personally prefer IM+ because it is a lot less buggy than Agile. You will have to test them both and see which one you prefer.



Posted by: JVCX007

Quote:
Originally Posted by braddah_man
sorry about that. i'm using the regular edge/gprs, i think in the area i'm generally in it's usually gprs, and it's the tmo version that comes on the handset. i appear to be setup properly. i have the total internet add-on, my internet works fine, and i tried yahoo messanger and it worked fine. it was kind of lagging though a lot, and when i tried to sign out of yahoo it wouldn't let me. it was taking way too long. could it be a handset defect?


Try the AIM i have on FTP. http://www.jcvlending.com/maddogx007/index.html Good luck.



Posted by: JVCX007

Hey I3onk did u ever find out anything about those KB skins and why they don't work with MDA? Not talking about Resco, but the otherones I have on FTP.. thks



Posted by: sinvicious

I know skype has been discussed in this thrad, but its almost 4000 posts, how would I find it or can someone tell me if its possible to run it?



Posted by: i3onk

Quote:
Originally Posted by sinvicious
I know skype has been discussed in this thrad, but its almost 4000 posts, how would I find it or can someone tell me if its possible to run it?


I know there are people that run skype. I dont think we have done too much dicussion about it in this thread. You might want to check the TMO mda/sda forum as a whole. I think you will get better ideas on Skype there.

http://www.howardforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=324



Posted by: jonazen

Quote:
Originally Posted by i3onk
Well congrats on the new job Jona.


Thanks! Gonna keep me busy...and the BB really is convenient as an "Outlook appliance" - but the experience is lacking when compared to the MDA. Gonna keep the MDA for the moment - way too much fun to let go of, and we're on contract for a while. Also - my wife and son are on T-Mo, so we're not going anywhere for now.

Just have to pare down my MDA playtime to the weekend (for the most part!)



Posted by: jonazen

Quote:
Originally Posted by JVCX007
Sad day when your gone bro, but the truth is, nothing is for ever. Were all here by some magical moment for a time. This has been the best board/thread i have had the experience of joining, but who knows wht the future has for anyone of us. Good Luck on the job, I am sure your excited. Blackberry ha? Oh well.


Still will be around - just less often. Busy week days now (and some on weekends also, I'm sure). Blackberry really seems well-mated to exchange, but the device is pretty bare bones compared to the MDA for everything else. So far, I'm carrying both - but I'm beginning to feel like Batman with his utility belt...



Posted by: jakeypoo

rofl hello batman



Posted by: djayrage

Congrats & good luck on the new job Jon.

On another note, Mort Ringer works really well. Too bad it doesn't work with emails as well as text messages. I made a few custom voice notifications for various groups & messages using the following.
http://public.research.att.com/~ttsweb/tts/demo.php



Posted by: Philnhot101

are you sure? cant you just convert the file as a WMA?



Posted by: JVCX007

Quote:
Originally Posted by jonazen
Still will be around - just less often. Busy week days now (and some on weekends also, I'm sure). Blackberry really seems well-mated to exchange, but the device is pretty bare bones compared to the MDA for everything else. So far, I'm carrying both - but I'm beginning to feel like Batman with his utility belt...



I know. I felt that way when I had a problem with MDA battery, remember? And I had my older TMO Pocket PC. I had both on my belt not to loose the MDA. Felt like cable man. Good glad ur still going to be around. You have way too much input on this thread to loose you. I still stand to my words, nothing is for ever, though



Posted by: JVCX007

Quote:
Originally Posted by djayrage
Congrats & good luck on the new job Jon.

On another note, Mort Ringer works really well. Too bad it doesn't work with emails as well as text messages. I made a few custom voice notifications for various groups & messages using the following.
http://public.research.att.com/~ttsweb/tts/demo.php


Very interesting, entising to make commercial, but nono! But interesting product.



Posted by: jonazen

Quote:
Originally Posted by JVCX007
I know. I felt that way when I had a problem with MDA battery, remember? And I had my older TMO Pocket PC. I had both on my belt not to loose the MDA. Felt like cable man. Good glad ur still going to be around. You have way too much input on this thread to loose you. I still stand to my words, nothing is for ever, though


Thx M.D., djay, et al - fun here, and I've learned a lot. Will still visit when I can. New job is great - but there's a LOT to do there, along with long hours and a pretty long commute. I'll be around - just have to figure out how to juggle the new schedule.





Posted by: bxbigt

what is a mda is is any where near a side kick 2 with web and aim and how much does it cost for prepaid



Posted by: i3onk

Quote:
Originally Posted by bxbigt
what is a mda is is any where near a side kick 2 with web and aim and how much does it cost for prepaid


MDA is nowhere near the sidekick. It is far above it. MDA is a pocket PC. I dont know about prepaid with it. I dont think that works, but you would have to talk to TMO about that.



Posted by: JVCX007

Quote:
Originally Posted by bxbigt
what is a mda is is any where near a side kick 2 with web and aim and how much does it cost for prepaid


The SKII came out 2 years ago, while the MDA is a new device on market, so comparing both could be like comparing apples and oranges.

Sidekick2 pros:
Sync on the fly is great if you lose your SK2. Means if you loose it, just plug in your Sim and you got everything back again. Neat feature.
comes with email address.
I hear it's the best IM of any mobile device period.
Easy to navigate.

Sidekick2 cons:
Lack of expandable memory.
No video record or playback.
No audio or mp3 player (playing amr's from email dont count)
Can't customize in anyway (5 second 1.99 ringtones from the catalouge dont count)


Mda pros:
Video cam.
1.3 megapixel camera.
Literaly thousands of apps out there.
Expandable memory (works with up to 2gb mini sd cards). So sky is limit.
Email, text message, phone , and picture/video storage only limited by size of memory card.
Pdf viewer, pocket word, excel etc...
Ay mp3 can be used as a ringtone.
Serious MP3 player with Stereo speakers and stereo headphones.
Any picture can be used as wall paper
totaly customizable... the list goes on.
Wi-Fi/Edge/Bluetooth
Can change skins to any look, customize with themes and apps to make it a better and more fun windows environment.


Mda Cons:
Doesn't come with email address (you have to set up a account from another provider). Not a problem with me cause I use my own POP accounts any how. So you see it's lifestyles.
proccessor is a little sluggish when watching video or a lot of apps open at once.
The built in IM is strickly sms based and is slow. However, I don't use IM sms, I use the internet version that does not charge me for anything on Wi-Fi.
It does freeze sometimes, but that's cause it's a real computer, not just a dumb terminal style system, not to insult anyone! Bu dumb terminals in offices have served a great purpose to the companies who used them.
It's not a "plug and play device'.
It's not always "online", although using GPRS/EDGE can get you email/Internet access any where, just about anytime without Wi-FI.

Final: The MDA is a more of a geek device, and has many more features. But the SKII holds it's ground with it's simple features that serve a great purpose for some without the complications of the MDA. Facts is not everyone is a candidate for an MDA. I have many friends who use blackberries, and SKII's for business, and love them, cause they are not of a geek nature, and really don't care for all those features we use.

In the end, why do we have these devices, phone, contacts, and email, bottom line. The rest of the stuff is fun, but sometimes very productive to use PDF files, and other tech stuff offered by the MDA.



Posted by: JVCX007

Questions for anyone using Spb Diary.

Q. Can you customize the today screen "Diary" contacts to get a company name, instead of a person. I have been a little frustrated with Diary lately, cause I have had to jump to contacts to get my info faster.

I know how to use, from contacts/ drop down like, "No grouping", "By company", or "By category". I know.. But what bugs me is, if I use "By comany", I can only look up peoples names. But I can't seem to look them up by "Company name". I can scrawl down alphabetically to that company, but if you have lots of companies, that can be tidious. What if I want to look up the company name, not some guy working for that company. Cause sometimes i can remember a company name eaiser then the person in that company contacts.

Has anyone played around with Diary like this?



Posted by: shackk

Quote:
Originally Posted by JVCX007
Questions for anyone using Spb Diary.

Q. Can you customize the today screen "Diary" contacts to get a company name, instead of a person. I have been a little frustrated with Diary lately, cause I have had to jump to contacts to get my info faster.

I know how to use, from contacts/ drop down like, "No grouping", "By company", or "By category". I know.. But what bugs me is, if I use "By comany", I can only look up peoples names. But I can't seem to look them up by "Company name". I can scrawl down alphabetically to that company, but if you have lots of companies, that can be tidious. What if I want to look up the company name, not some guy working for that company. Cause sometimes i can remember a company name eaiser then the person in that company contacts.

Has anyone played around with Diary like this?



Yes and I belive you have to change the "file as" in Outlook to the specific company name in order to search for it that way.

I dont use the contact portion in spb diary because of reasons like this.



Posted by: JVCX007

Quote:
Originally Posted by shackk
Yes and I belive you have to change the "file as" in Outlook to the specific company name in order to search for it that way.

I dont use the contact portion in spb diary because of reasons like this.


Yeah Im afraid someone was going to say that. I know about changing it in contacts. Oh well..



Posted by: eep02b

Ok guys, i have 2 questions. Both are app questions.
1. Whats a good small, free, rss reader??
2. Whats a good program for streaming audio from your comp to the phone over wi-fi??



Posted by: JVCX007

Quote:
Originally Posted by eep02b
Ok guys, i have 2 questions. Both are app questions.
1. Whats a good small, free, rss reader??
2. Whats a good program for streaming audio from your comp to the phone over wi-fi??


RSS.. This should help you. http://palmtops.about.com/cs/produc.../Pocket_RSS.htm

I have used Free Bee: http://pda.jasnapaka.com/prssr/

For streaming audio to your ppc I am checking out Windows Media Encoder.

http://www.jakeludington.com/ask_ja...ia_encoder.html

Of course once you get Windows Media Encoder configured on your desktop, on the Pocket PC end I would probably not use Windows Media as the link above recommends, I would use TCPMP instead (google it). Or download it here.. http://www.jcvlending.com/maddogx007/index.html

Windows Media Encoder download. You will need a geniun windows product.

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...spx&ps=0&prs=95

Good Luck

MadDogX007 still mad at HOFO for now responding!



Posted by: JVCX007

If this isn't a bunch of *(* crapola! Check out my card, got corrupted somehow. Im still functioning, but cannot delete these crapola folders I have seen before on a desktop pc. On properties they say removable storage, and only feature is to reformat. I'll bet this will wipe out my card. Very weird sht!! After that post of "ILVLa2" when card got renamed to storagecard2, I decided to make current backup of my card, but it was giving me problems draging storage folder from ppc to desktop, so I had to backup individual folders instead to storagecard folder on desktop. I wonder if that was the beginning of the issue..?? All this



I can't emphesize it enouph, backup your crap troops! And your little card too!!

UPDATE: Boy when it rains it shts too.. I had electrical problem in neighborhood this morning, all power was dead. The pc I backed up my card too seems dead too.. Man o man, what a world, what a world..



Posted by: djayrage

Wow sorry to hear that. Sounds like you may need to invest in a surge protector for you PC.

As far as the storage card2 problem, I posted a quick fix for that a few pages back. Simply remove the card, delete the "Storage Card" folder on your ppc, and re-insert your card & you should be good to go.

Good luck with everything, & if there's anything I can help ya with let me know.



Posted by: nyvram

Quote:
Originally Posted by eep02b
Ok guys, i have 2 questions. Both are app questions.
1. Whats a good small, free, rss reader??
2. Whats a good program for streaming audio from your comp to the phone over wi-fi??


1. http://pda.jasnapaka.com/prssr/

I used this for awhile but had some problems with it connecting which I don't know was based on my phone acting up or something else. Give it a try. The 'today screen' feature is super-cool. Shows you a rotating list of top stories that you can then click on to read more.

2. www.orb.com/

Accept no substitutes. ORB rocks and its all you need. Check out the 'control my webcam' feature...that's almost cooler than the streaming audio.



Posted by: nyvram

Dag yo Maddog,

That sucks. I am with you..due to storms passing through our area my 9550 videocard barfed (the DVI output no longer works but the VGA does) and my DVD writer stopped working.

Oh well, it was only a 4x writer! Guess I'll have to pick up an internal 16x DVD writer at Walmart now & I"m still trying to figure out if Radeon/Gigabyte will fix the video card for free.

Yes, buy a dang surge protector. You'll be sorry if you don't..i know I am. I'm checking out edealinfo.com as we speak looking at prices.



Posted by: Giedrys

Quote:
Originally Posted by nyvram
1. http://pda.jasnapaka.com/prssr/


2. www.orb.com/

Accept no substitutes. ORB rocks and its all you need. Check out the 'control my webcam' feature...that's almost cooler than the streaming audio.


Thansk for sharing this, nyvram.Amazing software



Posted by: SuperRob64

I use Pocket IE to get to my Google Reader (http://www.google.com/reader/m) feeds. Web Services FTW.



Posted by: nyvram

Yeah, but can you see your feeds on your 'today screen' without having to wait 2 minutes for pIE to fire up & load the page with your feeds?

Can you see a summary of the article (with pics!) from the today-screen item without having to fire up pIE?

Can you mark the items as 'read' and get new ones every [x time interval you set] without ever having to launch pIE?

Can you? Can you? Can you?



Posted by: nyvram

PS New version just came out! I'll have to try it

http://pda.jasnapaka.com/prssr/changelog.php#v1-3-1



Posted by: SuperRob64

I like to keep my Today screen pretty clutter-free.





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