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Posted by: bobcatsystems

Hi there guys,
The i530 manual (Page 69, also pasted excerpt below) clearly shows GPS + Delorne/Microsoft GPS Software Support via USB. As shown here:
Quote:
Using GPS with Map Software
You can use the GPS feature of your phone to
provide approximate location data to a laptop
computer or similar device that is running interactive
map software such as that made by DeLorme or
Microsoft. This way, if your phone has good access
to GPS signals, your approximate position on a map
can be made available as you travel in a vehicle.
To do this, connect your phone to your laptop (or
other device) with a data cable and set your phone
to transmit data (see “Getting Started” on page 70).
Your phone then provides your approximate location
to the device running the map software, which
displays your location on a map. Your phone
provides an updated location every second and the
map software displays your changing location on its
map.
See “Enhancing GPS Performance” on page 66 for
more details on obtaining good location information.

I own Microsoft Streets and Trips 2006 with USB support, however, I am not getting the phone to be detected by the software even after following the guidelines in the manual. I did notice the manual makes no mention of any drivers that may be required? are there some? or is this NMEA communication take place without drivers once the pc/laptop detects the phone (which it does once connected/powered on via USB cable).

Definately a useful topic/tool for this phone. Would love to get this working as described in the manual. Hope someone can help fill us all in on this neat feature. Thanks for your time and assistance.



Posted by: 189nextel

You need to use a serial data cable, usb doesn't work unless you have a serial to usb converter cable in the mix.



Posted by: Jasonslan

Quote:
Originally Posted by 189nextel
You need to use a serial data cable, usb doesn't work unless you have a serial to usb converter cable in the mix.


I believe that is the only correct answer to this question. . . .



Posted by: bobcatsystems

would a regular usb to serial converter work or is there special pin outs that factor in? Thanks for the input thus far.



Posted by: 189nextel

I used the nextel serial cable attached to the phone and then just a cheapo serial to usb converter I got at best buy. I think any kind of serial adapter will work, something about it eliminates one of the wires in a usb cable. Someone had posted a way to modify the usb cable once.



Posted by: MotoMobile

I just grounded pin 10 on my i530's USB data cable and NMEA out works with all GPS software. No need for a serial port or serial cable.



Posted by: BigMac546

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Quote:
Originally Posted by MotoMobile
I just grounded pin 10 on my i530's USB data cable and NMEA out works with all GPS software. No need for a serial port or serial cable.


How do you go about doing that?



Posted by: YoDude

Quote:
Originally Posted by BigMac546
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How do you go about doing that?



What he^ said ... Post detailed instructions, pics if possible and we will give it sticktion in the software forum.



Posted by: MotoMobile

Couldn't be easier. Rip open your USB data cable, the part that goes to the phone. My cable had a nice end that pried open easily and went back together, no problems. On the left side, count down from the end. 14, 13, 12, 11, 10. The 10 pin. You'll see it isn't connected to anything. Run a very small wire from that to the right side where there is a black ground cable. Voila. Set your privacy to unrestricted and set NMEA to OUT. Plug that biotch into your laptop and you're good to go. Cheap and Easy in-car GPS. I'll have to mod that cable to shoot power from USB to the phone now...



Posted by: OldOne

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Thanks for the info. I have USB cable that charges. I will try this with it. I have been using a serial cable with a charging port and my car charger and it works great with Streets and Trips.



Posted by: mgman71

Hi, i just got an i580 and tried the USB cable mod. But cant get it to work, is there a different mod for this phone, or is the serial cable the only way?



Posted by: MSkates

What drivers do you use once the mod is done? Just standard modem drivers for i530? Hope someone can fill me in.



Posted by: MSkates

Hi guys,
Can someone please advise on what drivers to use? or what the setup process is once you have modified the usb cable adapter as described?
Thanks. Greatly appreciate any feedback.





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