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Posted by: goatcheese47

does anyone know if it's possible to flash the 6256i with the 6255i OS? i hate the os on my 6256i. lots of options are missing such as the option to set your own personalized shortcuts with the scroll keys. 6256i's caller id is a HUGE ANNOYANCE. so names are displayed and some just display the number of the caller. what good is that? plz. help me out guys. if possible can someone go as far as to email or somehow post the 6255i flash file or link me to it or something. PLZ! thank you

Posted by: HC - NO "i"

goatcheese47,

It is not as simple as you may think. The firmware of both models could have same MCU and PPM, however, the PRI is carrier-dependent. If you carrier has request Nokia for specific customization, then you would expect things you would / would not like.

And, if a Nokia comes a specific PRI, it will not let you to flash with a different one - unless you totally blast the handset with completely different set of files in order to totally decustomize. But then, you have to put the right provisioning settings and PRL file of your carrier back in there.

Posted by: PriusChat

I have to admit that I'm nowhere near as knowledgeable about this as you appear to be so excuse me if I ramble on here sounding a bit naive.

There seem to be a ton of Verizon customers with V710s, V3cs, and other handsets who have flashed their phones with another carrier's firmware to get some additional features (primarily Bluetooth or java). From what I've read, the process certainly does not appear to be all that complicated......just a matter of connecting the phone and locating the appropriate flash file. I have a V710 and, although I haven't flashed it with a different flex, I have made modifications (seem edits) and those were relatively straightforward and, again, rather simple.

I also have a 6256i and have noticed that the music player and equalizer (present on the 6255i model) are missing. It's difficult for me to believe Nokia actually modified *hardware* to accomplish that. I mean, I'm pretty sure that would be technically possible but it seems like an awful lot of work just to disable a couple of features at a carrier's request. Wouldn't they be able to accomplish that at the firmware level? If so, then wouldn't flashing a 6256i with a 6255i flash file restore those features?

Posted by: HC - NO "i"

PriusChat,

Hey, I just like you and others who learn things everyday.

But first, you have to understand the way of things between Motorola and Nokia is quite different. Motorola CDMA has been using Qualcomm chipset (their last very own CDMA chipset is Wally). In the world of BitPim, MotoX, etc., editing / customizing FLEX, SEEM or even bootloader is not as impossible. Flashing / FLEXing a Motorola with its PST / RSD is not as hard either. Finding the official files is easy.

Now, back to Nokia... I have NEVER said it is or it is not the case for Nokia to cripple this and that at hardware level. But, I did tell that the key is held in the MCU and the PRI (not PRL) in the firmware! And, you should understand access to Diego or Pheonix - even with PKD-1 or FLS-4 dongles physically attached is only part of the big picture. Attempt to flash a 6256i with 6255i firmware is NOT necessarily bring victory to what we want! You can try but once it detects you have a specific PRI before, it will abort. Some may ask, what about a total rebuild with the kind of flash from nothing? Yes, go ahead and try to flash one! Then educate me with your findings. I have done similar thing to DCT3 generation Nokia CDMA but I have yet to replicate the success with DCT4 models with confidence.

No hard feeling. I do not pretend I know everything, just that I have found that over the years Nokia CDMA is pain in the butt to deal with any other way than Nokia's very own. Meaning... Nice try

Posted by: PriusChat

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Originally Posted by HC - NO "i"

...Attempt to flash a 6256i with 6255i firmware is NOT necessarily bring victory to what we want! You can try but once it detects you have a specific PRI before, it will abort...

See, you just set forth the missing piece of the puzzle, for me at least. I was unaware that the flash would abort if a specific PRI was detected on the phone. Thanks for the information. It wasn't exactly what I wanted to hear but, well, now I know *why* the procedure won't work.

Posted by: HC - NO "i"

PriusChat,

Do not get me wrong. I always think many things are possible. Just that how much time and effort would be needed. And, to me, time is money. Sometimes, it is just not worth it. There are many "what-if" and I am asking the same often. However, if you are familiar with the Nokia stuffs, you should understand the risk and hassles involved.

In this case with the possibility of flashing 6256i with 6255i firmware... I think the right "what-if" to ask would be "what if we can get a 6256i firmware with generic build of MCU + generic PRI (or at least, a more hack-friendly PRI)?"

Posted by: Freddy Flash

Oh oh oh oh oh oh! I can add to this discussion!

LOL anyways....

When you load a DCT4 CDMA Nokia for flashing in Diego or Phoenix it picks the flash files you can use via the Product Code. It's like six or seven numbers (I forget which and I don't have any flashing software installed on my home PC right here and now) that're put into the phone similar to how the flash is. BUT Nokia makes it much more difficult to change this than to flash a phone. You have to have the fun hardware

And assuming you had this hardware (I do) you probably wouldn't need to just change the product code to do the flash, you could do both at the same time.

Moving right along! Diego won't do this for you. You need Phoenix, and an older version at that because, as stated, it's not as easy as just a quick flash. I don't know what the version is specifically off the top of my head but it's like blah blah blah blah_98.something

Ok, so you got the software and the hardware. Great. Get Phoenix to recognize the phone via the connection manager. Then hit CTRL+F. It'll pop up advance flash. Hit the revive dead phone button (or whatever it says, almost same difference) and you'll get a purty little window asking for a product ID and a NFP. Knowing the product ID you want is nice here, it'll tell the flash package to load the content file that's in the NFP (Nokia Flash Package). If you don't know what it is, no worries just put in something random (just numbers though). Pick the NFP, they're all stored in pretty much the same directory. How do you get it? Probably just like you got that version of Phoenix. It either came with your dongle support or you found another source. Then you install the EZ Flash package for the 6255 and it'll put the NFP in one of the directories you have.

ANYWAYS yeah, product code, NFP, hit the "restore user data" button if you want (I've never tried it) and hit OK. Watch and smile.

It's a beautiful thing. I've been drinking tonight. A lot. So forgive me for being incoheriant

OH yeah! Why you need that older version of Phoenix! When your phone restarts you'll see it'll be searching for service. Load your PRL to it (remember to copy it from your phone before doing this BTW) and then do Troubleshooting, RF, Read Parameter. It'll bring up a fun little window, click on "Load file" or whatever looks like that, wait till it tells you it can't find the file itself and then find your tuning file (another one to save before the flash!). Write it to the phone.

How do you save yourself a PRL? Pull up the PRL option in the menu and hit the read button. After it's done it should "ungray" the save button. Save it were you can find it.

How do you save yourself a tuning file? Do that Troubleshooting, RF, Read Parameter. There should be a button in the new little window that says "Read all from phone" or something similar. Do that. When it's done do "Save file" and save it somewere you won't lose it.

Yeah, that's pretty much it. You'll need to reprogram your phone, and edit the PRI for whatever you want it to be like. But that's what you have to do in a blender.

Posted by: HC - NO "i"

Freddy Flash,

It works even better (and more simple) with DCT3 models in the good ol' days of WinTesla

Seriously, getting the right set of drivers for Phoenix is very important. Without it, you are going anywhere.

Anyway, the "panic" / rebuild mode works with older versions. If you have tried with newer models with newer versions of Phoenix, the trick may not work.

Posted by: Freddy Flash

I'd been told of how friendly WinTelsa was by some of the gents who trained me. That guy could do almost anything with just an FLS-4. Beautiful stuff