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Posted by: oturn

Go get yours!...

ftp://ftp.clubimate.com/

Posted by: captainmicahp

I downloaded the rom upgrade for my sp5 but i dont know how to put it on my phone. I dont want to mess anything up. how do you load it on the phone.

Posted by: radeon_x

Quote:

Originally Posted by captainmicahp

I downloaded the rom upgrade for my sp5 but i dont know how to put it on my phone. I dont want to mess anything up. how do you load it on the phone.

Um, you just run the setup installer on your PC and it guides you through the steps.

For those who have installed it: If you used the WWE version, do you have the EDGE "E" icon?

Posted by: kaplanfx

WWE = World Wide English? What does NRE = ?

-Kap

Posted by: ilvla2

I was wondering that too, maybe North American?

Posted by: radeon_x

Quote:

Originally Posted by kaplanfx

WWE = World Wide English? What does NRE = ?

-Kap

Something like North European... Basically just have different languages (but also includes US English). With the old ROMS, only this one had the capability of showing the EDGE icon whereas the WWE one didnt' (although they both have EDGE speeds).

Posted by: ilvla2

Cool, thanks radeon! By the way, what are the advantages/disadvantages to me flashing my T-Mobile SDA with the iMate SP5m ROM? I know it would probably void the warranty, but would it make much of a difference over the T-Mobile one? Would the settings be easy to put back in? I'm coming from a Treo 650, so I'm not that familiar with flashing Windows Mobile phones, I've done it successfully on the Palm though.

Posted by: naptownman22

How do I tell what ROM version I have in my just delivered 2 days ago SP5 and which one is the latest on the ftp site?

Posted by: oturn

Yes, the WWE version has the E icon. However, you have to enable it:
Set EnableDifferGprsEdgeIcon value in HKLM\Drivers\BuilIn\RIL to 1.

Unfortunately, the Wireless LAN Utility application that was present in the old NRE ROM, wlanutil.exe, is still missing in the new WWE ROM. This is a very nice tool. I wonder why it isn't present in the WWE ROM? Because of this, and because the NRE ROM is a slightly higher version 2.5.333.1 (the WWE version is 2.5.331.2), I'm thinking about switching to the NRE version.

Posted by: radeon_x

Good to know, thanks oturn.

What exactly does that wlanutil.exe do?

Posted by: Sgt_Strider

Any Qtek 8310 users that have tried out this new ROM? If so, can you post instructions on how to flash this to your phone? Thanks.

Posted by: iJITSU

Doesn't work for the Qtek or 2125.

Posted by: iJITSU

Ah, maybe I'm wrong. Try this:

http://www.modaco.com/Got_the_I_mat...K_-t238381.html

Posted by: iJITSU

Just followed those instructions and was able to load the SP5 ROM to my 2125. IE works fine as does calls. I'll play more and see if I can find something that doesn't work, but right now IE is working great and supports frames. Nice.

Posted by: oturn

Quote:

Originally Posted by radeon_x

Good to know, thanks oturn.

What exactly does that wlanutil.exe do?

It shows details for available wireless networks, connection status, link quality, channel, etc....and it's not in the new NRE ROM either! Anyone with the old NRE ROM care to post wlanutil.exe? The file is located in the Windows folder. Please PM me if you don't want to send it here.

Posted by: veloearl

Where do we find a list of improvements in the new ROM?

Also, does it have support for push email?

Posted by: radeon_x

http://www.smartphonethoughts.com/i...d7daeb8cb759590

Posted by: ilvla2

Where do you get the wlanutil?

Posted by: ilvla2

Well, I took the plunge, followed all the instructions for before, during and after, and it went GREAT! I am very impressed with this ROM, a few things I've noticed is that it starts up and shuts down quicker, the menus and apps are faster and it uses a lot less memory, I am glad I did this! All aps re-installed fine except for Battery Pack Pro, it says it installs fine, but when I try and run it it says it can't load the needed files, any ideas? Should I try another program? Thanks!

EDIT-I got BatteryPackPro to install, all is well again

Posted by: JBHorner

Quote:

Originally Posted by iJITSU

Just followed those instructions and was able to load the SP5 ROM to my 2125. IE works fine as does calls. I'll play more and see if I can find something that doesn't work, but right now IE is working great and supports frames. Nice.

That's pretty brave. Since the 2125 is based off of a much different platform than the SP5, I would think there would be issues just waiting to happen.

I'm surprised, actually.

Joel

Posted by: Crav4Speed

OK, I upgraded my ROM and everything went smoothly as far as installing it. Now, when i'm using the phone, and have any program running, if i keep it idle for about 10 seconds, it will automatically return to the homescreen. This is really starting to piss me off and if it stays like this, I might have to revert back to the original ROM.

What do you guys think it might be?

Posted by: radeon_x

Quote:

Originally Posted by JBHorner

That's pretty brave. Since the 2125 is based off of a much different platform than the SP5, I would think there would be issues just waiting to happen.

I'm surprised, actually.

Joel

Um no it's not... the 2125 is the HTC Faraday which is essentially the HTC Tornado minus WiFi. They are virtually identical otherwise.

And Crav4Speed, it must be related to a 3rd party app you installed after the update - it's not a problem with the new ROM.

Posted by: ilvla2

I agree, I haven't had that problem at all. By the way, where can I get a copy of wlanutil?

Posted by: richy240

For those of you who think this is difficult, I posted a how-to (so to speak) of my experience loading a sp5m ROM on my T-Mobile SDA... http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=869444 This is a fairly simple process after you get through all the technical crap posted on various sites.

It also includes links to tools, articles, etc. that might be helpful. This was for my SDA, though I assume it also applies to the 2125, as the tools I used work on many HTC phones (from what I read).

Good luck!

Posted by: naptownman22

My SP5 updated no problems and it starts faster and I'm still finding some of the enhancements with the new version. Does anyone know where I can get a copy of the T-Mobile cab with some of their customizations for the SDA?

Posted by: JBHorner

Quote:

Originally Posted by radeon_x

Um no it's not... the 2125 is the HTC Faraday which is essentially the HTC Tornado minus WiFi.

Um...it would be useful for you to have a basis for your comment.

Having compared registries between the two handsets, there are some significant differences. Also, in addition to WiFi (which I would argue is a significant hardware difference), there are fewer buttons on the 2125.

Joel

Posted by: radeon_x

Quote:

Originally Posted by JBHorner

Having compared registries between the two handsets, there are some significant differences.

Oh yeah? Like what?

Quote:

Also, in addition to WiFi (which I would argue is a significant hardware difference), there are fewer buttons on the 2125.

A WiFi module and fewer buttons do not equal a "much different platform". Good try though.

Posted by: JBHorner

Quote:

Originally Posted by radeon_x

Oh yeah? Like what?

A WiFi module and fewer buttons do not equal a "much different platform". Good try though.

Perhaps you can diff the two registries and find out for yourself...or would you rather operate in a mode of gleaning anecdotal information from the Internet and leading others to believe that there empirically would be no issues with having a ROM on a handset that differs from the platform on which it was intended? At a very basic level, take a look at the certificates. How's the Cingular certificate on the SP5 ROM? Other areas would be WAP, MMS, etc. These are not 1-for-1 identical issues in the registries. There will be impacts from this for those who use Cingular. I know. I have personally tested this...unlike you. When I post information, it is based on my own personal experience (unless I otherwise state).

Nice try? Unless you are an engineer that understands the hardware differences between the two (which you obviously are not), and unless you have an understanding of how Windows Mobile handles drivers for hardware that is supposed to be there--but isn't, I don't need to "try" anything. The fact remains that the hardware does differ. It's a pretty simple comparison. It would appear that your view of "significant" would be a different processor, or similar. Translated, it would appear that your only concern is if the handset still has basic functionality.

As I said in my original post, I thought that the individual was brave. There could have been issues that would have rendered the handset as unusable. Fortunately, that didn't happen. But, it doesn't mean tha there will not be consequences going forward.

Many people read these posts--novice and expert. To the extent as much relevant information is disseminated, the better. Reading the post up to this point, one could have been left with a view that they would have a 100% functioning 2125 on Cingular's network, even after installing the SP5 ROM. The fact is, they won't.

Joel

Posted by: radeon_x

Quote:

Originally Posted by JBHorner

Long post - at first glance one might falsely assume it to have some degree of substance. You're not doing a very good job of proving that the Faraday platform is "much different" than the Tornado. And since you yourself can only offer anecdotal evidence we'll have to go on that. Fact is, there is a lot of anecdotal evidence supporting the theory that the Torndao ROM works absolutely fine on the Faraday as far as hardware compatibility is concerned.

You keep emphasizing that Cingular users will have problems. Well if the GSM radio hardware is functional using the new ROM (and by all accounts it is) then there's no reason to believe that a 2125 running an SP5 ROM would function any differently than an SP5 running an SP5 ROM. Indeed, some users note an improvement in call quality [1]. I'm not saying they're right or that there will be absolutely no problems, I'm just saying that the ROM installs and that there have clearly not been any (minor or major at this point) hardware incompatibilities to speak of.

You make a pretty bold assertion that users will NOT have a 100% functioning phone with the SP5 ROM but again you offer no evidence. I therefore say you're claim is reckless and unsubstantiated. If you want to claim that it's not going to work, fine, but that places the burden of proof squarely on your shoulders.

[1] http://www.smartphonethoughts.com/f...er=asc&start=20

Posted by: iJITSU

For those interested, I have made phone calls, sent text and mms, browsed the internet, played video, recorded video, taken pictures, used bluetooth, and every other thing I do with my smartphone. Everything works as it should, and in fact the ROM has delivered better overall performance than the Cingular ROM that was on there. In short, I've used every single feature of the 2125 using the SP5 ROM mutiple times and have a success rate of 100% so far. Doesn't mean I won't run into some issue later, but after a couple of days all is more than well.

Posted by: JBHorner

Quote:

Originally Posted by radeon_x

As I said...which you obviously failed to read, I post on my own experience, and have compared the registries between the two. There is nothing anecdotal about that. Perhaps you should look up the word to learn the meaning. At best, you're trying to evade the fact that there are differences.

For those on Cingular, they can go to the home deck. Go to a paid service. (In my case I use TeleAtlas Traffic.) It doesn't work when trying to go into the service itself. It states that the content type is unsupported. The home deck is also different, meaning that Cingular's system isn't recognizing the handset, and is defaulting to a "generic" deck. On my handset, it actually breaks the images in odd places (on the "updated" ROM). The original doesn't do this.

My proof, which you seek, is available to all. Dump the registries between the two handsets. Compare them. There are several differences. I already stated areas where it differs. Even a novice, such as you, should understand that at a minimum, the handset identifier will differ. (One effect here is that this is used by services to download the appropriate type of content for the handset.)

I'm not surprised the call quality may be perceived as being different. One plausible explanation for this is that the ENS settings between the two ROMs are different...effectively disabling the ability for the handset to "load balance" between AT&T legacy and Cingular legacy networks. (Which, by the way, I don't necessarily view as a loss of functionality--there are many people, including me, who cannot stand that "feature.") I personally did not notice a change in the call quality.

You may recall that it was you, not I, that brought up "Faraday" and "Tornado." My comment was that there are significant differences in the platform. Platform is inclusive of hardware (missing WiFi is a difference) and software (I've already demonstrated areas that differ.). In your most recent post, you're now back-tracking and limiting your "expertise" to hardware. This said, I see no point to your obvious obfuscating the issue at hand. The platforms differ. Period. Your assertion that a functional GSM radio means the phone is 100% clearly shows a lack of understanding of this handset by you. The GSM firmware code is merely one piece of a flash file. There are also other pieces (a boot loader and OS, for example). I wouldn't imagine that the GSM radio was updated signficantly--and wouldn't think it would differ between the latest HTC Smartphone handsets.

You make an assertion that my claim is reckless. Is is clear that you make this claim because you have no understanding of the technology, or the internals of this phone. I would expect you to make that claim...it is one made out of not understanding the subject matter. That you don't understand what I'm saying doesn't invalidate it---it merely shows your inability to correlate the facts.

There are too many posts here where people do something to their handsets that causes grief going forward. Some of them do this because they see people like you claiming that there are no differences, and that of course everything will be fine. Why not give them information that at least provides an ability to make an informed decision? You apparently have an issue with showing both sides of the coin.

Joel

Posted by: JBHorner

Quote:

Originally Posted by iJITSU

For those interested, I have made phone calls, sent text and mms, browsed the internet, played video, recorded video, taken pictures, used bluetooth, and every other thing I do with my smartphone. Everything works as it should, and in fact the ROM has delivered better overall performance than the Cingular ROM that was on there. In short, I've used every single feature of the 2125 using the SP5 ROM mutiple times and have a success rate of 100% so far. Doesn't mean I won't run into some issue later, but after a couple of days all is more than well.

Have you had a chance to test the Direct Push feature for Activesync? I would like to see some feedback on this. (From anyone.) I upgraded my Sprint PPC6700, and have had issues with the Direct Push. Before I actually set up my SP5 to synchronize, I want to make sure it's going to work well.

I have no issues with my 2125 (upgraded, and then downgraded) with the "traditional" SMS-based OTA ActiveSync---so I'm wondering if the Pocket PC upgrade may differ in such a way that it has issues that the Smartphone will not. Thx.

Joel

Posted by: radeon_x

Okay, clearly we're arguing two very different things here. Your initial posts indicated that you were surprised that the SP5 ROM worked on the 2125 because the SP5 was "based off a much different platform than the 2125". My point has always been that, because of the similarity between the Faraday and Tornado, the SP5 ROM on a 2125 would behave just like the SP5 ROM on the SP5 (WiFi not withstanding) - and I think that point has clearly been validated by iJITSU and others.

Had I realized your argument was based on WAP/MMS settings and device identifiers (sorry, not included in my definition of “platform”) I wouldn't have wasted my time here, believe me. Cingular users, please consult Joel for a detailed list of service incompatibilities when using an unbranded handset.

Back on topic, I’ve noticed with the new ROM a few occasions where my WiFi automatically enables itself. For example, on a number of occasions after disabling the modem link (over ircomm) the WiFi automatically activates despite the fact is was previously disabled. In fairness this did happen to me once or twice with the old ROM, but it seems more frequent now… anybody else having that issue?

Posted by: amg212

Chiming in with one more end-user experience.

I flashed my Cingular 2125 with the SP5m ROM.

The performance is exceptional.

The hardware differences between the 2125 and the SP5m really consist of two items - there is no WiFi on the 2125, and there are additional buttons on the SP5m (primarily for additional flexibility with multimedia applications).

The lack of the "extra" buttons on the 2125 does not preclude use of this ROM. It just means you don't have them to use. No biggie.

The lack of WiFi in the hardware also does not preclude the use of this ROM. It just means that if you try to enable WiFi using the Comm Manager, you'll get an error that there is a missing driver (no WiFi hardware, no WiFi driver).

That's it. No other differences. When the 2125 is flashed with the SP5m ROM, it "thinks" it is an imate device and (with the exception of having WiFi) behaves exactly as an imate would.

Any other differences between the 2125 and the SP5m are based on carrier customized ROM's. If you flash a SP5m with the 2125 ROM, it will behave like a 2125 and work beautifully with Cingular. If you flash a 2125 with the SP5m (like I did) it will work with Cingular for most apps, but will require some tweaking (as with any other non-Cingular phone - which is what I've turned my 2125 into).

I've had no problems getting my flashed 2125 to work with Cingular for everything that I do - others may find limitations that don't affect me. Having the push email feature of the MSFP is worth any other theoretical limitations.

Having said that, the moment HTC America releases the 2125-specific ROM update (which will presumably be more-or-less feature equivalent to what I put on my phone) I'll reflash the phone back to the 2125 ROM - if for no other reason than if I do have a problem in the future, I don't want Cingular blaming it on the non-Cingular approved ROM.

One tip for anyone thinking of doing this flash...

The 2125 shows different icons for GPRS versus EDGE. The worldwide English (WWE) ROM - that most people would download in the US - for the SP5/SP5m only has a GPRS icon (which means, if you use that particular ROM, you'll lose the ability to visually determine whether you're on EDGE). The Northern Europe (NRE) version has both GPRS and EDGE icons, but there are some registry hacks you need to go through to enable it. I recommend going that route. (Keep in mind that if you buy an imate phone, you'd be in the same situation). If you do that, keep in mind that the NRE ROM defaults to UK English as its language and location - this can be changed to US in the settings menu.

Good luck!

Posted by: radeon_x

Good info thanks amg. Just want to point out that in the new sp5 rom at least the edge indicator is present in both the wwe and nre roms.

Posted by: amg212

Quote:

Originally Posted by radeon_x

Good info thanks amg. Just want to point out that in the new sp5 rom at least the edge indicator is present in both the wwe and nre roms.

Didn't know that part -

However, I've heard that the NRE ROM seems to leave slightly more free space on the device as compared to WWE - Not sure if that is true since I went right to NRE...

Posted by: HalM

FWIW, I just loaded the WWE SP5m ROM on my partner's phone. It too is enabled for the Edge icon.

Posted by: radeon_x

Anyone else notice that the default font in java midlets is now incredibly small and difficult to read? It also seems as though the registry keys in the old rom that controlled the font sizes within the intent JVM are no longer there...

Posted by: kaplanfx

Quote:

Originally Posted by radeon_x

Anyone else notice that the default font in java midlets is now incredibly small and difficult to read? It also seems as though the registry keys in the old rom that controlled the font sizes within the intent JVM are no longer there...

I had this problem on the T-Mo SDA US rom that I came from, and now on the imate WWE rom. Never heard of these registry keys but I will dig around for them tonight.

-Kap

Posted by: iJITSU

Quote:

Originally Posted by JBHorner

No, sorry. I have't tested the push feature. In fact, I'm not sure how to set it up. If anyone cares to post instructions I'd be glad to check it out.

Posted by: nokiaMUT

I flashed the iMate SP5 (WWE) ROM to my QTEK 8310 this morning. So far, all is working beautifully. Simple to do as well - downloaded the ROM from ftp.clubimate.com; unzipped on PC, ran the software which walks step by step through the process. The only glitch is that it asked me to read the readme.doc, but reported an error when I tried to do so.

Posted by: Crav4Speed

Quote:

Originally Posted by JBHorner

My office is running Windows Exchange Server 2000 and my SP5 does not automatically sync when a new item arrives. The only time it will sync is at the scheduled times I have it set to. It's been like this with both the old and new ROM's so it's definitely not a ROM issue. We're installing Windows Exchange Server 2003 in a few weeks, so I'll see if that cures the problem I'm having.

Posted by: radeon_x

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crav4Speed

Direct Push was introduced in Exchange Server 2003 SP2.

It works fine on my SP5... But as others have pointed out, I find that the heartbeat uses a fairly significant amount of data (well its significant if you don't have an unlimited data plan anyway).

Posted by: hsv5_0

I am going to give this a go on my XPhone IIm but I was wondering about the back out path if it does not work? Can you restore the phone to the Windows Mobile 2003 software that it came with from anywhere?

The last thing I want to do is try it out and then if it does not work (not that I dont trust this thread! Just want to be safe) have no option of restoring what I had in the first place!

Suggestions on how I can restore what I have now in the events of failure would be most appreciated!

Cheers.

Posted by: belliott71

Anyone having connection issues after upgrade? Before upgrade I could listen to internet streams at work without interuption, and now it will cut off after about 5 minutes and will not let me reconnect. I cant even pull up any internet pages after it cuts off.

Posted by: radeon_x

Quote:

Originally Posted by belliott71

Anyone having connection issues after upgrade? Before upgrade I could listen to internet streams at work without interuption, and now it will cut off after about 5 minutes and will not let me reconnect. I cant even pull up any internet pages after it cuts off.

If anything mine actually works better after the upgrade and i use orb and internet radio a lot

Posted by: chris_c28

Quote:

Originally Posted by hsv5_0

I am going to give this a go on my XPhone IIm but I was wondering about the back out path if it does not work? Can you restore the phone to the Windows Mobile 2003 software that it came with from anywhere?

The last thing I want to do is try it out and then if it does not work (not that I dont trust this thread! Just want to be safe) have no option of restoring what I had in the first place!

Suggestions on how I can restore what I have now in the events of failure would be most appreciated!

Cheers.

Do not do it! The Xphone IIm is NOT a similar device to the T-Mo SDA and i-mate SP5m (Tornado). They might look similar, but they are totally different. To start with, they have different screen resolutions, different processors, different cameras, etc. etc.... Flashing the Faraday with i-mate ROMs work because they have similar architecture.

Posted by: CoolVanilla

Hi all. I've gone ahead and updated, and all seems well save one issue: I cannot connect to EDGE anymore. Maybe I missed it, but what is it I need to do in order to connect via EDGE on my 2125?

Also, I've read more than once how registry tweaks are needed; adding a flag, editing a flag... what editor are you using to do this?

Thanks much!

Posted by: radeon_x

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoolVanilla

Hi all. I've gone ahead and updated, and all seems well save one issue: I cannot connect to EDGE anymore. Maybe I missed it, but what is it I need to do in order to connect via EDGE on my 2125?

Also, I've read more than once how registry tweaks are needed; adding a flag, editing a flag... what editor are you using to do this?

Thanks much!

What makes you think you cannot connect to EDGE? Or do you just mean your GPRS indicator is always "G" instead of "E"?

If you're referring to the latter case, yes, you do need to registry edit. Easiest option is probably just to use the desktop-based Mobile Registry Editor: http://www.breaksoft.com/Blog/Utili...try_Editor.aspx.

And, off the top of my head, it's:

HKLM/Drivers/BuiltIn/RIL/EnableDiffGprsEdgeIcon

Set that that value to "1".

Posted by: CoolVanilla

raeon, thanks for the reply.

When I try to connect to an internet site, I get the following error: Cannot connect. Verify you have network coverage and try again. I've tried this in many locations and still, the same error.

Also, when I try to use the registry editor you linked to, I get an error message stating the registry has been locked. Any thoughts on how to unlock it?

Thanks again. I look forward to your response!

Posted by: hsv5_0

lucky I asked! Normally I just install these things and off I go but after having a laptop failure this week - I am a little more careful! At least for the next couple of weeks! ;-)

Thanks for the heads up Chris!

Posted by: jenya2k

CoolVanilla:

search hofo or modaco for regeditstg, put it on your device and run it from your device. You need to mofidfy two strings in the registry in order to be able to edit your registry from external registry editor...

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Security\Policies\Policies
change 00001001 to "1" and 00001005 to "40"

Posted by: Swivel

Is it just me, or are the modaco forums down? I can't find regeditstg anywhere else. Just updated to the latest sp5m rom on my SDA and I'd like the edge icon.

Posted by: Ainvar

SO what is the diffrence between WWE and NRE. I have not found a good detailed explantation for this.

I have tried both and seen a few diffrences in menus but have not found anything worth while.

Which is better and which one prefered over the other?

Posted by: radeon_x

Other than the languages available, I don't think there are any major differences between NRE and WWE as far as the new ROMs are concerned.

Such was not the case with the previous release, but I think they're pretty much evened out now - from my experiece anyway.

Posted by: wenlez

where can i get the original tmobile SDA ROM ?

Posted by: ilvla2

http://www.htcamerica.net/support/SDA_Clearvue.htm

There ya go

Posted by: wenlez

cool cool, thanks!

Posted by: ilvla2

De nada!

Posted by: Swivel

? Who the hell asked for ClearVue?

It blows anyway. We need a true Pocket Word, Excel and Power Point. I mean, how the hell hard could it possibly be for Microsoft to port and release them?!

Posted by: ilvla2

If you click on the link, you will discover that both Clearvue AND the original T-Mobile SDA ROM are on that page, perhaps it would pay to calm down and not get so excited

Posted by: FungFlex

Does anyone know for sure if since if im not mistaken A2DP is functional on the update of the sp5m, that if I install the SP5m rom and update on my 2125 if I will have functional A2DP on the 2125?

Kyle

Posted by: kronus

Quote:

Originally Posted by FungFlex

Does anyone know for sure if since if im not mistaken A2DP is functional on the update of the sp5m, that if I install the SP5m rom and update on my 2125 if I will have functional A2DP on the 2125?

Kyle

They haven't given us a2dp yet in a release.

Posted by: kronus

Quote:

Originally Posted by Swivel

? Who the hell asked for ClearVue?

It blows anyway. We need a true Pocket Word, Excel and Power Point. I mean, how the hell hard could it possibly be for Microsoft to port and release them?!

Umm, it's pretty hard to put desktop apps on a little device like this. Besides the small screen and usability issues, you have to deal with the basic mobile operating system and control issues. It's pretty complex to have these apps usable on a totally different and tiny device like this. It might be called Windows, but it's windows Mobile.

Posted by: radeon_x

Quote:

Originally Posted by kronus

He means port the "Pocket" version from the Windows Mobile for Pocket PC edition. And yeah, there's absolutely no reason why they couldn't bring a Word, Excel and PPT viewer to the Smartphone edition (I say viewer, because if you've ever used the PPC version you'd know that editing would be a b*tch without touchscreen and pen or keyboard input). I suspect Microsoft doesn't want to and won't do it for some time in order to avoid blurring the lines between the Smartphone and PPC editions. Until the two platforms do merge completely, they need something to differentiate the two to consumers.

Posted by: kronus

Quote:

Originally Posted by radeon_x

Ah ok, thought he was referring to fully featured apps. On another note, I think the line between smartphone and ppc is already blurred, with the terms used interchangeably constantly by even people in the industry. It's a big headache to me when I hear someone referring to an MDA for example as a smartphone. While it is a phone, and it is "smart," it's not a Smartphone; please say PPC. Read walter mossbergs article in the wsj about the mda and sprints offering.

Posted by: dwest218

Quote:

Originally Posted by radeon_x

I am and I have the original Qtek ROM. The way I fixed it was to set my WIFI Automatic Turn off settings to OFF. Meaning it wont turn the WIFI OFF automatically because of lack of use or timeout. Fixed that problem you described for some strange reason.

Posted by: mbranscum

OK guys...I upgraded to the sp5m rom. I see the push mail indicator in my connections manager menu but cannot highlight it to activate. Can someone tell me what I'm doing wrong?

Posted by: jenya2k

You can only activate it / deactivate it after you configure activesync with your exchange server...

Go to the activesync app and do the configure exchange server option and the push mail feature is enabled by default. After you set it up, using comm manager you can enable/disable it...

Posted by: 5ilex

So the concensus is do the WWE rom since it takes up less space and has all the features of the NRE anyways?

Posted by: 5ilex

Decided to run the NRE. Seems to work great so far! Hope I made the right choice.

Posted by: Swivel

Weird. Not sure why you did that.

Posted by: lslavick

I have read all I can...

Does anyone have a step-by-step guide for updating my 2125 with the iMate rom. I have tried many times and can't get my phone to accept it.

Thanks!

Posted by: Swivel

Download it from imate's ftp site, then double-click the setup icon.

Posted by: kronus

Quote:

Originally Posted by dwest218

I had the same problem, and that fixed it for me too, how weird. So you have to disable automatic OFF for it to stay OFF.

Posted by: teckhwee

Got a dopod 577w. wish to change to sp5m rom but need to know something inportant to me first. Are we able to choose a large font size under settings - assesability? My dopod 577w dont have this option and default is small.....

Posted by: LIVEFRMNYC

I just installed WWE_2.5.331.2. Everything works perfect, but I'm missing the Etrust Antivirus.

Is WWE_2.6.331.2 better? Does it also include anti virus?

I hate to reload all my setting if their the same.

Ohyea I working with a SP5