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Sanyo 5300 and Verizon
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Posted by: nieds

Does anyone know if the Sanyo 5300 will work on the verizon network, and if so, what needs to be done to activate it?

Posted by: longhornfan

I have heard it can be done you will need some one from the inside from both companies. Sprint phones in theory will only work on the sprint network and vice versa, but i have heard of people using sprint phones on verizons network. So a search on both this forum and www.sprintusers.com for more info

Good luck

Posted by: NGeorge

I want to switch my 4900 to Qwest (for a friend who has not 'rode the light'--to Sprint) to replace his 5185i... Qwest is 1900 CDMA, and the Sanyo should work... I thought they gave me the unlock code when I switched it online, but now when I try it, the phone reboots... was thinking maybe if I enter Qwest's info in the programming menu if I was to switch from it to the 5300 online and then try reactivating it online (they'd send another one-time code?) and change the info to his # and home ID? I know Qwest has no problems with entering the correct #s from other providers--and they give out their own unlock codes depending on the CSR.

--Nat

Posted by: SL4

Sprint Phones Work On Sprint Changing The Phone Is Fraud And Against The Law. A Little FYI Stay Legit Or Forfeit Your Freedom. Later.

Posted by: defiant

Typing the first letter of every word in caps is cool.

Don't do it.

Moderator's Note: Let's all play nice and not degrade entire groups of people

Posted by: DaBigBR

It is theoretically possible.

You would most likely need a few things

1) phone (check)
2) cable (easy to obtain)
3) MSL (eaiser to obtain)
4) Sanyo Service Software (good luck)

Just flash in a Vzw PRL and OTA away.

But why? None of the picture uploading would work? There is a post in the Verizon forum where a user "sorta" got an a500 to work.

Posted by: NGeorge

Why would I need the service software/VZW PRL? The Sprint phone roams on the exact same networks in the same order that the Qwest ones do. Only diff is that Qwest defaults to Sprint before analog (in recent PRLs--on older ones they don't)... wouldn't the current Sprint PRL work fine?

--Nat

Posted by: skankboy

Quote:

Originally posted by SL4
Sprint Phones Work On Sprint Changing The Phone Is Fraud And Against The Law. A Little FYI Stay Legit Or Forfeit Your Freedom. Later.

How is it fraud or against the law?

Posted by: Roy

I dont know about VZW vs. Sprint, but the guy from the Radio Shack store said that I could buy the 5300 without a plan for 400 (50 bucks more than with plan) and take it to brazil.

Here it could be activated on the Telesp network... I am not sure of the technicalities of Telesp's network, all I know is that it is CDMA, and that I have gotten a V60c branded by AllTel to work... (Just when the v60 came out and wasnt available in br)

Posted by: shervinf

Quote:

Originally posted by SL4
Sprint Phones Work On Sprint Changing The Phone Is Fraud And Against The Law. A Little FYI Stay Legit Or Forfeit Your Freedom. Later.

Hmm, let's see, you paid 400 bucks for the phone. You didn't get a discount! It's your phone, what you do with it is none of Sprint's business. You're not steeling service, so how is it fraud Mr. Lawyer?

Posted by: hatoncat

There are currently no laws in the United States that prevent you from forcing a cell phone to work on a network other than the one than it was intended for (using a Sprint phone on Verizon or Cingular phone on T-Mobile).

FYI, there is also no laws aginst breaking SIM lock codes on GSM phones either. There is actually legislation in Congress to make SIM locks illegal to impose on phones...

Posted by: Aurora

Quote:

Originally posted by SL4
Sprint Phones Work On Sprint Changing The Phone Is Fraud And Against The Law. A Little FYI Stay Legit Or Forfeit Your Freedom. Later.

I don't think it's against the law.

sry to bust your bubble.

Posted by: hatoncat

You don't need to think. IT ISN'T!

If you buy the phone and ink a contract, you are still responsible for the contract with whatever phone provider you signed up with.

However, the phone is YOURS, you can do whatever you want with. Except use it in an airplane

Posted by: SL4

For The 5300 To Work On Other Networks. You Have To Change The Programming In The Phone To Accept Another Network Instead Of Sprint As The Intented Carrier. Without Permission From Sanyo To Do This Makes It A Crime. Ownership Doesn't exempt You. Laters....

Posted by: shervinf

What are you talking about? Do you even understand what you're writing?

A. The Sanyo phone is designed to work on CDMA! what does that mean, that means that you can use the phone with any carrier in the US that uses CDMA and the 800 or 1900 MHz frequency.

I'm not sure what you're talking about when you say the programming has to be changed! It may not give you all the features that are available on the other carrier's network, but you can use the basics. If what you were saying were true, I would not be able to roam on verizon's network, when I'm travelling!

Nothing illegal here, I have the master lock code for my phone, and I can change it to any carrier that I want, as long as my ESN is added to their system. Nothing illegal here. I've switched my analog phones before from one to another, why is it illegal now that it's digital??

So please clarify what you're talking about!!!!!!

Posted by: hatoncat

SL4 is either lying or has no idea what he is talking about.

Sanyo sells the phone to Sprint. Sprint sells the phone to you. YOU OWN THE PHONE. Prove me wrong, quote me the law, or the part of the manual on the SCP-5300, or any phone that says that Sanyo controls what provider I sign up with the phone.

It makes no sense at all that Sanyo would even care what provider I use. They got their money, and they make no reservation as to what provider I use!

There is no license agreement to the firmware on the phone. This is not like Windows or a standard PC OS. Is it illegal for me to flash the phone to run Linux (example purposes only, there is no Linux for SCP-5300)? No.

ESN numbers are picked up by the service provider upon activation. The MSL code is given to the phone and the phone is given the carrier's code to search for on the bands the phone uses. This leads to time slots, and lots of other things SL4 can't understand...

THE ONLY THING PROGRAMMED INTO THE PHONE IS THE CARRIERS CODES THAT THE PHONE NEEDS. They only program the phone with, in this case, Sprint's, as a convenience so that people can activate without going to the store (over the phone or online). Sanyo does not care nor has any provision against you overriding the phone's provider codes.

SL4, go to law school. You need to. Or at least learn to read a manual...

You know what I hate the most about people like SL4? They respond saying something like "I don't need to quote you the law or terms of service..." and then continue with something unrelated, usually political.

Posted by: JBHorner

Quote:

Originally posted by SL4
Sprint Phones Work On Sprint Changing The Phone Is Fraud And Against The Law. A Little FYI Stay Legit Or Forfeit Your Freedom. Later.

You do not have a clue as to what you're talking about. Furthermore, you post this same nonsense every time someone mentions a thread such as this.

There are a few scenarios that would make tampering with one's owned cell phone a crime. (e.g., modifying it to eavesdrop, modifying it to interfere with the communications of others, whacking someone in the head with it)

Crawl back in your hole.

Posted by: martianviking

Quote:

Originally posted by JBHorner
... There are a few scenarios that would make tampering with one's owned cell phone a crime. (e.g., modifying it to eavesdrop, modifying it to interfere with the communications of others, whacking someone in the head with it) ...

Yup... plus I don't know how many phones would stand up to a good head bashing.

Seriously though, trying to modify your ESN will get you into legal trouble as well.

But, like most people keep saying, just getting your phone activated on another carrier is not a crime. Difficult to do, maybe. A crime, no.

Posted by: hatoncat

Modifing the ESN number on your phone with the intent of stealing phone service is illegal.

But forcing the phone to accept another provider doesn't even touch the ESN, and is totally legit.

Posted by: SL4

So Your Point Is In Theory. Your Ignorance Of The Law Entitles You To Break The Law. I Am Not A Law Student True But At Least I Am Law Abiding Citizen And Know The Difference Between Right And Wrong. Laters, Gone From This Thread On Lawlessness. New Thread

Posted by: hatoncat

WHAT? YOU ARE NOT LISTENING TO ME AT ALL.

I said that if I am wrong, PROVE IT. Show me the law that says that it is illegal!

Don't just tell someone that they are ignorant. If there is a law, then I am guilty of that. Just prove it or get off this post!

Posted by: skankboy

Quote:

Originally posted by hatoncat
WHAT? YOU ARE NOT LISTENING TO ME AT ALL.

I said that if I am wrong, PR0VE IT. Show me the law that says that it is illegal!

Don't just tell someone that they are ignorant. If there is a law, then I am guilty of that. Just prove it or get off this post!

Basically he can't prove it because there is no infraction. Some guy told him that it was illegal and that's all it takes for him to believe it.