w810 and the mp3 player!!!!

Originally Posted by HappyScrappy

All in all, the mp3 player is disappointing.

In the main "now playing" screen it doesn't scroll the titles? But at the top of the screen it does. And the sorting. Bleh.

And when you tap the Walkman button, the Walkman app takes about 1.2 seconds to come up. Why so slow? Worse yet, if you press and hold the Walkman app (perhaps you thought you had to hold it until it comes up), it will NEVER come up, it's like you didn't press the button at all!

Also, despite the seemingly good idea of the microphone "yoke" that lets you connect earbuds to the phone to listen to music, they don't work out in some ways. If you use that adapter to hook your phone up as an mp3 player in your car, the audio will come out the car speakers, and if the phone rings, the call will too! But, the microphone isn't near your neck and picks up echoes and so in reality if a call comes in you have to scramble to unhook the setup so you can accept the call. Bummer.

And woe to you if you were to select all songs and set your phone to shuffle, because it thinks your ringtones are songs and will shuffle them in. Can I relocate the ringtones on the phone (or mem card) so that the phone doesn't think they are music, yet still work as ringtones?

I like the phone, but it would never tear me away from my iPod.

Originally Posted by HappyScrappy

All in all, the mp3 player is disappointing.

In the main "now playing" screen it doesn't scroll the titles? But at the top of the screen it does. And the sorting. Bleh.

And when you tap the Walkman button, the Walkman app takes about 1.2 seconds to come up. Why so slow? Worse yet, if you press and hold the Walkman app (perhaps you thought you had to hold it until it comes up), it will NEVER come up, it's like you didn't press the button at all!

Also, despite the seemingly good idea of the microphone "yoke" that lets you connect earbuds to the phone to listen to music, they don't work out in some ways. If you use that adapter to hook your phone up as an mp3 player in your car, the audio will come out the car speakers, and if the phone rings, the call will too! But, the microphone isn't near your neck and picks up echoes and so in reality if a call comes in you have to scramble to unhook the setup so you can accept the call. Bummer.

And woe to you if you were to select all songs and set your phone to shuffle, because it thinks your ringtones are songs and will shuffle them in. Can I relocate the ringtones on the phone (or mem card) so that the phone doesn't think they are music, yet still work as ringtones?

I like the phone, but it would never tear me away from my iPod.

Originally Posted by randomtask77

This is one of my gripes with the newer SE phones. It doesn't seem to be a good way to organize your MP3 file and keep it the way you organize them.

Plus if you transfer your music in two different ways, it screws it up even more. Apparently sending it via BT and using the data cable has it's own way of placing the MP3 in the folder.

Originally Posted by shaolinmonk

some of the things you mention are dated.. what phone are you using? w800i??

the w600, w900, w810 have improved walkman apps but still not perfect



bluetooth will build folders in folders like disc to phone...
best way it to use a card reader

Originally Posted by shaolinmonk

some of the things you mention are dated.. what phone are you using? w800i??

the w600, w900, w810 have improved walkman apps but still not perfect



bluetooth will build folders in folders like disc to phone...
best way it to use a card reader

Originally Posted by HappyScrappy

I'm using the w810i, I hadn't used the music player in the w800i until after I already used the one in my w810i. Honestly, I can't tell the difference between the two.

I don't mind folders in folders, I don't care about the actual file system organization (used to iTunes which ignores it), but I would like to have ringtones that aren't seen as songs.

For that matter, why can I not make the phone play the name (voice command) of a caller when I receive a call over the earbuds? I hope it works over Bluetooth.

Thanks randomtask77 for the tip, but I'm not investing any more dough in this thing as a music player. Buying the cable won't fix the other problems with the music player, so I'm sticking with my iPod, which I already have a cable for. (What's with all the custom cables nowadays?)

Originally Posted by shaolinmonk

the ringtone thing you can move the tones to a ringtone folder on the phone and it should not pick them up anymore...

Originally Posted by Bingley Joe

Hi all

Figured it was high-time I hauled myself out of lurk-mode and got in on the w810i discussions -- just got myself one two days ago, and while it's been mostly a joy to use so far, there are a few quirks here and there that are bugging me..

This MP3 sorting issue has to be top of the list. It's just WAY too annoying to have the phone throwing its #@%&@ protected MP3s into the middle of the actual music I've loaded on there.

I've managed to delete all but three audio files so far, and since two of those are MIDI ringtones, there's only one M4A file remaining on the phone to torment me..

Unfortunately shaolinmonk's suggestion above won't work as it's a "Protected File". Cannot be moved, renamed, or deleted (merely purchased and despised for hundreds of dollars, apparently).

I must kill this file. Any ideas?



FWIW, these are the files that don't seem to be moveable for me:

Greeting.m4a
Ringlord.mid
Sony Ericsson.mid

Originally Posted by shaolinmonk

the walkman app should not detect mid files..

Originally Posted by Bingley Joe

It doesn't detect them, I only mentioned them in the off-chance someone knows how to blow them away as well.. I suppose that wasn't entirely clear from the way I worded things..

Anyway -- as far as the MP3 player goes, there is only the one M4A file (Greeting.m4a) remaining on the phone to torment me..

Any ideas?

Originally Posted by shaolinmonk

you cannot remove protected ringtones/wallpapers/ etc...

Originally Posted by Bingley Joe

So, basically we're screwed, right?

I know protected files are nothing new, and TBH, I would be quite happy to ignore Greeting.m4a if it didn't have to show up in the Walkman app.. But it does. WTF is the sense in that?

Given that this phone is part of the "Walkman" product line, doesn't this seem like an odd move on the part of SE? What's the situation for owners of their other Walkman phones? Does everyone just accept the presence of these crap files and make playlists so they aren't heard or something?

Originally Posted by shaolinmonk

you should be able remove from the walkman app.....

Originally Posted by Phat^Trance

its basicly the same as w800 but the "sorting" doesnt seem to work...

Originally Posted by Bingley Joe

Thanks very much for your continued help here, shaolinmonk, but sadly no.

The only place in the Walkman app I can delete it from is "Now Playing", which isn't exactly helpful since it comes right back the next time I launch the Walkman..

If I try to remove it from under "Tracks" or "Artists", the phone simply says "Failed" (which makes sense as the #$^&@#$% thing is a protected file).

Am I missing something ridiculously obvious here, or am I correct in thinking that the ONLY way to prevent that track from being played is to work strictly from playlists I create for myself?

Originally Posted by scraejtp

That sounds pretty crappy, I assume the W800 has the same problem then?

Originally Posted by cam'ron

To avoid having the protected songs play, just make a play list with all songs you want in it.

Originally Posted by shaolinmonk

ok something is wrong here.. i picked up a w600i on the weekend...

when you first start the phone... the artist sony is there.. and there's like 10 sample songs... if you delete them from now playing they come back.. but if you delete them from artist, sony (press c) they don't come back.

secondly.. if i play my own song.. then pause and exit the walkman app.. next time i start it will resume where i left off in that track,

the walkman app no longer pics up the ringtones even though they are still on the phone..

i don't have a w810 at the moment i sent my back.. but the w600 should be the same though....





sound quality on the walkman phones is very good.. i have no complaints whatsover and i haven't seen any threads saying the mp3 quality is poor..
in terms on cellphones IMO sony has currently surpassed all

we'll see how the nokia 3250 and rokr e2 perform though.

i don't sort so i don't know what everyone is talking about...

but random will not play my ringtones anymore.

Originally Posted by mmccking

All but the @#$^*!& hiss which I'm surprised doesn't bother people!

Try playing an MP3 at low volume (1 bar) and you'll hear what I'm talking about. I've tried 3 Cingular W600i phones, all crap!

Originally Posted by shaolinmonk

ok something is wrong here.. i picked up a w600i on the weekend...

when you first start the phone... the artist sony is there.. and there's like 10 sample songs... if you delete them from now playing they come back.. but if you delete them from artist, sony (press c) they don't come back.

Originally Posted by Phat^Trance

am i the only one that have problem to sort the mp3 files after the date?? everytime i sort the files no matter if i choose title or artist or date it automaticly sorts the file after artist.... or am i doing something wrong?

Originally Posted by Phat^Trance

am i the only one that have problem to sort the mp3 files after the date?? everytime i sort the files no matter if i choose title or artist or date it automaticly sorts the file after artist.... or am i doing something wrong?

Originally Posted by chestofwishes

...i have w810i....i think its like teh same anyways ok the files u have on ur computer u right click on one of them and go to properties then u have to go to summary ...

Originally Posted by Tom-182

I personally think that mp3 sound quality in W810 is really fairly good enough. Sometimes I plug my W810 to an external speaker to play mp3s.