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Well i'm off to the dark side!
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Posted by: awdbiturbo1

Friday i will be the proud owner of a PPC 6700. Just sick and tired of the little problems i had with my treo 650. Well atleast i will try something new

Posted by: viper_2_4

you'll be back...I ventured into the PPC area, then wnet back to Palm....simplicity is awesome

Posted by: Prom1

Surprised you didnt get the Treo 700 since your going to Verizon, unless its Sprint your venturing too.

Posted by: eimajuno

Sprint sells the ppc-6700 also.

Posted by: Tastypeppers

Been there and back on T-Mo. Treo 650 --> MDA --> Blackberry --> new Treo 650. My wife has my old one and won't let it go.

The grass is always greener on the other side of the fence.

But yeah. Next new doo-dad on the market, I'm buying it. :-)

Posted by: tartis

Tried the 6700 on Sprint for 13.5 days and took it back. It is cool, but sucks as a phone. I was missing my Treo 650 mini keyboard, and one handed use. I about crashed my car and had a horrible death trying to use the PPC-6700 while driving. Let us know how you like it.

'T'

Posted by: Kabuk1

Lol, have fun dude. I went down that route last December & will NEVER have another WM phone again.

Some perks you can look forward to with the 6700;

Constant lock-ups & freezing
your hair growing faster than the processor processes
flimsy slide & cheap plastic housing
No MMS
low-res screen
crappy signal
odd glitches
manually resetting 3-5 times a day
having to hard reset to fix said odd glitches
and finally- the horrors of windows mobile 5

ENJOY!!! And please let us know when you come crawling back to your Treo. We won't mock you or say "I told you so"(well, maybe some of us will), we will welcome you back with open arms.

Posted by: lilchucks

dont forget the touch screeeenn uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu its touchy touch uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu lol jp but yea most people dont know my treo 650 is touch screen but yea my treo does get kinda anyoing when it resets its self but its ok i respect its optiion lol

Posted by: E92Vancouver

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Originally Posted by awdbiturbo1

Friday i will be the proud owner of a PPC 6700. Just sick and tired of the little problems i had with my treo 650. Well atleast i will try something new

If you think the palm has problems, wait until you get the 6700. That unit takes minutes to turn on and off. The Wifi is weak and rapidly consumes the battery. The processor is 33% slower than the Treo 650 and the screen has less resolution. The other thing is forget about typing an email or text message with one hand. Other than that, it is pretty cool. I almost bought one and used it for a day.

Posted by: Surfermobile200

i just joined the treo side

Posted by: Tastypeppers

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Originally Posted by Surfermobile200

i just joined the treo side

I am returning to the Treo 650 after trying out the MDA and a Blackberry.

Posted by: maceyr

This will be interesting to read as time goes on.

Posted by: MO3iusONE

Man alot of people talking trash cause he going to Windows? tsk tsk tsk..Good luck, I was thinking about the 6700 but I might wait and see what Sprint offers in a few more months..let me know how it goes.

Posted by: phaijai

I also recently tried to jump over to the Cingular 8125 and just noticed that it took too much to make it usable. Mind you, all the registy edits that you have to perform in order for it to be usable is not worth it to me. Then you have the slow processor. The resets were not as much as people make it out to be but even with a Treo, its best to soft reset occassionally. The wi-fi was a pain to set up, and for me, the sliding keyboard was an inconvenience as well. I came back to Treo for the simplicity and really don't see myself going back.

Posted by: Kabuk1

Man, the resets drove me NUTS. At least when the Treo resets, it resets ITSELF, with WM you have to manually reset it whenever it effs up. I missed an antire day's worth of calls one day b/c it locked up while in my purse & I didn't know it. And I had to hard reset 3 or 4 times in less than 4 weeks because something would screw up & become unfixable. One time it was because my font size in IE set itself to such a microscopic size that I couldn't even read it.

The only thing I hate more than Windows Mobile is animal abuse. And maybe diarrhea.

Posted by: E92Vancouver

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Originally Posted by alanw2009

Was just using a 6700 outside. In daylight, the screen is useless!

Posted by: awdbiturbo1

True that.

Posted by: E92Vancouver

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Originally Posted by awdbiturbo1

True that.

What is with Active Sync 4.1???? It took mw 20 hours to sync 4,000 contacts. Palm syncs in like 8 minutes!!!!!!! What was I thinking. The keyboard on the Qtek sucks too. What is with having to press the function key to get a period?????

The mini keyboard on the Treo rocks. Also, alot of functions and menus on the Qtek needs a frikkin stylus! With the Palm, you can use the rocker button for everything if you do not feel like not having to use a stylus.

Posted by: petriljoe

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Originally Posted by KabukiAssassin

Lol, have fun dude. I went down that route last December & will NEVER have another WM phone again.

Some perks you can look forward to with the 6700;

Constant lock-ups & freezing
your hair growing faster than the processor processes
flimsy slide & cheap plastic housing
No MMS
low-res screen
crappy signal
odd glitches
manually resetting 3-5 times a day
having to hard reset to fix said odd glitches
and finally- the horrors of windows mobile 5

ENJOY!!! And please let us know when you come crawling back to your Treo. We won't mock you or say "I told you so"(well, maybe some of us will), we will welcome you back with open arms.

I hate to bring up an older post, but could someone (Or the poster) tell me what this NO MMS means? The 6700 can do MMS messages, can't it?

Posted by: Kabuk1

MMS is multimedia messaging, like pics/vids & whatnot. The option is there on the 6700, but its been disabled for some reason that even the Sprint tech guy couldn't explain to me. So if you wanna send your friends blurry, out of focus pictures of yourself drunk at the bar, you have to email them :/

Posted by: petriljoe

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Originally Posted by KabukiAssassin

MMS is multimedia messaging, like pics/vids & whatnot. The option is there on the 6700, but its been disabled for some reason that even the Sprint tech guy couldn't explain to me. So if you wanna send your friends blurry, out of focus pictures of yourself drunk at the bar, you have to email them :/

Oh don't be silly, I know what MMS is, I just didn't know what you meant by " NO" MMS.

That's strange that they disabled it. Have they done this with Verizon? I have Verizon and I know that you can send pictures and that you can't send them as MMS messages, you may only send pictures as DATA messages. It kind of forces you to get a data plan if you plan on doing anything other than TXT messaging. I thought you were saying you couldn't send a picture at all.

Oh well, thanks for the response!

-Joseph L

Posted by: E92Vancouver

awdbisexual is conspicuous by his abscense! I will bet you dollars to donuts he regrets his purchase and is now trying to sell hi Qtek on Ebay.

Posted by: tkoz

You have GOT to be joking. As for the 6700, I can't comment since I don't own one. As for the Qtek, this is an outstanding machine. I have in front of me a month old MDA (Qtek, Wizard, whatever flavor you choose) and a brand spanking new unlocked Treo 650. I've fooled with the Treo for an entire day, loading up all the basic programs, getting email setup, etc. and putting it through it's paces. Simply put, the Treo is a good phone with pda capabilities. The MDA is a computer with a built in phone. What are the bonuses of the Treo? Better one handed use, quicker responding OS, and a higher res screen. The bonuses of the MDA? Wifi, oustanding keyboard, more robust OS (the email and internet browsing experience on the Treo doesn't even come close), built-in stereo speakers, better camera and the list goes on. I bought the Treo thinking that with so many businesses buying this for their employees, as a business person I might be missing something by not having the Treo. That's what I get for following the herd.

Someone earlier mentioned things such as one-handed use on the MDA being a pain. Get a couple simple, small, free programs (Smartskey, Magic Button or In Close, and OmapClock) and the Qtek becomes a COMPLETELY different machine. Does the Qtek require tweaking and additional programs to get it working to it's potential? Absolutely, just like every Palm I've ever owned over the past 5 yrs. Yes, 5 yrs. with Palm - this is my first WM device and I'm surprised I've waited so long. But then again, they didn't have this form factor in this size before.

Don't get me wrong, I think there is definitely a place for both. And even as I'm typing this, I'm still drawn a bit toward the Treo. Maybe it's the familarity with Palm. Maybe it's the simplicity. Maybe it's having a shiny new device in front of me again. But for me, the Qtek is a very powerful little device. And to the OP, just remember, you're posting on a Palm OS forum, so weigh the comments carefully.

Posted by: Kabuk1

Ill say to you what I say to all WM converts- if you think WM is far superior to Palm in so many areas, then you do not know how to use a Palm to its fullest potential. For every super feature WM has, there is a hack, program, or add on for Palm. The Treo is also a mini-computer with a phone built in. Don't get me wrong- I OWN a WM device, an iPaq hx4705. I shelled out over $600 for the thing & I am happy with it as a secondary PDA & entertainment center. But even though it runs WM 2003 & has a 624mhz processor, it is still slower & not as stable as my Treo.

This is like the neverending debate over PCs & macs- die hard lovers of one will not be easily swayed to the other. To each his own.

Posted by: sabesh

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Originally Posted by KabukiAssassin

For every super feature WM has, there is a hack, program, or add on for Palm.

OK, Please tell me how to fully multitask with the Treo 650 (IE: Run TomTom with a GPS fix and play SkyForce at the same time -> Not light stuff like play P Tunes or run Chatter in the background etc). Thanks, Sabesh.

PS> And yes, I do have the need to do such things (Ex: being a navigator on a long road trip and killing time with games in between long stretches).

Posted by: sabesh

Quote:

Originally Posted by tkoz

As for the Qtek, this is an outstanding machine. I have in front of me a month old MDA (Qtek, Wizard, whatever flavor you choose) and a brand spanking new unlocked Treo 650.

I've pretty much owned every significant WM device including the Qtek 9100. I sold the 9100 within a month as I found it too slow all-round. The Treo is lightning quick in everything it does and is more useable. A WM5 device may have a lot of features, but it's not very practical to use as a phone due to it's slow speed. Earlier WM2003SE devices like the MPx300 were much better even with the small amount of RAM. Cheers, Sabesh.

PS> I have no "favourite" O/S. I just go with the device/OS combo that works the best for me (I've had/have UIQ, series-60, WM2003SE, WM5, WM smartphones, Palm 4/5 etc etc).

Posted by: Kabuk1

Multitasking is the only thing WM has over Palm still. But I'd bet money that the next incarnation of Palm OS(cobalt perhaps) will have some sort of multitasking ability.

Posted by: Surfermobile200

hey guys you know what?

i dont know either so lets move on

Posted by: Tuanle

tkos,
Do you miss the keyboard on the Treo when using your MDA?

Posted by: tkoz

I do miss the 'always there' keyboard of the Treo. As I mentioned in my previous post, it's this one-handedness of the Treo that really works for it. It truly is an exellent phone. But I also like the keyboard on the MDA. If you don't mind sliding the phone open, the keyboard is outstanding and very comfortable to use. If you don't have a great need to use the device one-handed, you'll be very happy with the MDA.

The things I prefer with the MDA? Wifi, the connection manager (connecting wirelessly to anything couldn't be easier), larger keyboard (although, as I said, not necessarily the placement of it), outlook for email (works VERY good), the camera (although this is a touchy one with many people), an extremely stable OS, and unbelievable voice dialing/navigation (although this is an add-on program, it's worth mentioning).

The things I prefer with the Treo? Palm OS, at least for PIM. It's simple, clean, quick, and easy to operate. Also, the 'always there' keyboard, and although I enjoy the web browsing more on the MDA, web browsing with Opera is quicker. Since my last post, I've had the opportunity to use the newer version of Opera, and it really makes the browsing experience on the Treo very enjoyable.

Both units are very good at what they do, but each has it's tradeoffs. Overall, I think the Treo is a better phone/PIM device. But for it to match what the MDA offers either included or for free, there's so many tweaks, hacks, third-party softwares and add-ons that the Treo needs, that it keeps jacking the price up. And I'm not talking about wants - software for volume, software for grafitti on the screen instead of the keyboard (although this is free), software for text-completion when typing...these should be included, not add-ons.

For everything else, I feel the MDA has it. I don't think they could have packed much more into this thing. It's an amazing device. Although I hate to admit it, the longer I have the Treo and use it, for my NEEDS, the Treo may end up suiting me better. For my WANTS, though, the MDA is it. It is an outstanding PDA with a good phone built in. As other posters have mentioned, for me, it's not the OS issue that matters, its what works that does. It will be interesting to see which wins out.

If you'd like to take a look at an interesting read, check out the following link and read some of the posts about the K-jam vs. Treo debate.

K-jam vs. Treo

Posted by: mvaughanusm81

Nobody mentioned the VIRUSES that windows seems to accumulate. Nasty Varmints!