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Posted by: manmanman

1. Besides the Nokia 6282 and LG CU500, are there any other 3G phones coming to Cingular this year?

2. Is the N80 coming anytime this year, or probably Q1 next year? And to Cingular?

3. Should I buy the Nokia 6282 or LG CU500? Or wait for Cingular's other 3G offerings?

Thanks!



Posted by: CrunchDude

I'd love to know when there will be a 3G Treo coming out.



Posted by: Rcadden

1. As of right now those are the only ones that have been confirmed.

2. The N80 with European UMTS (but still quad band GSM) is actually out now, or will be in the next couple of weeks. The version with American UMTS, well, I wouldn't look for it till probably around August, and even that would be a push. I doubt it'll be on Cingular, and if it does ever come, it'll be so late you won't care anyways. A'la 9300.

3. I personally will be getting the 6282 as a backup to my 6682. I'm not a fan of LG's, never have been, never will be. I've seen too many of them returned. I'm a confessed Nokia fanboy, but for a reason. Nokia ONLY makes cell phones. When they put out an inferior product, it hurts them. LG (and Samsung, Motorola, etc.) make all kinds of other stuff. Heck, LG even makes refrigerators. If they put out a crappy cell phone, they don't care all that much, it doesn't hurt their bottom line near as much.



Posted by: manmanman

Thanks for the help.

Anyway, am I the only one, or is the 6682 back on Cingular's site?



Posted by: helpermonkey

Quote:
Originally Posted by manmanman
1. Besides the Nokia 6282 and LG CU500, are there any other 3G phones coming to Cingular this year?

2. Is the N80 coming anytime this year, or probably Q1 next year? And to Cingular?

3. Should I buy the Nokia 6282 or LG CU500? Or wait for Cingular's other 3G offerings?

Thanks!


1. also the Samsung ZX20
2. No idea
3. I like the LG CU500. I like the form factor, the build quality is reasonably good, it will play music and the like if that is your thing and it has HSDPA.

Isn't the Nokia only 1900 UMTS? I am not sure, but think it is.



Posted by: Rcadden

Quote:
Originally Posted by helpermonkey

Isn't the Nokia only 1900 UMTS? I am not sure, but think it is.


*sigh* This whole UMTS-850 thing is really starting to annoy me. Helpermonkey, I'm seriously not trying to flame you, please don't take it that way.

Cingular's UMTS network is presently ONLY 1900. Period. Given that they pretty much use 850 as a backup in major cities and as a primary only in rural areas, I HIGHLY doubt that a UMTS phone lacking 850 will make a huge difference even in a year and a half. People are making a MUCH bigger deal about UMTS 850 than need be, I think.



Posted by: helpermonkey

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rcadden
*sigh* This whole UMTS-850 thing is really starting to annoy me. Helpermonkey, I'm seriously not trying to flame you, please don't take it that way.

Cingular's UMTS network is presently ONLY 1900. Period. Given that they pretty much use 850 as a backup in major cities and as a primary only in rural areas, I HIGHLY doubt that a UMTS phone lacking 850 will make a huge difference even in a year and a half. People are making a MUCH bigger deal about UMTS 850 than need be, I think.


Rcadden, don't worry about me taking it the wrong way, it completely understand what you are saying. But I don't see it from the same angle as you. 850 is not used as a backup in Major cities, at least not the ones I know of (you could be completely right on all the others I don't know about, I am not arguing that). 850 should, from my perspective, be used as the main coverage spectrum, 1900 should be used for capacity (regardless of technology). Or how about "could be used" instead of "should be used" for those who disagree? 850 has better in-building penetration etc. It is just better for overall coverage when sites aren't really dense. You could also be right that UMTS will not be on 850 in any of the Cingular markets for over a year or a year and a half. On the other hand 850 would be the ideal way to get UMTS coverage areas to the maximum footprint. Would you rather build sites in rural areas at 1900 spacing or at 850? If the coverage is already 850, you would have to build new sites just to get the same coverage in 1900 UMTS. ATTWS deployed GSM when it was still only available in 1900 in markets that only had 850 TDMA coverage, without building new sites at first. Coverage problems were the result. Anyway I think it would be a bum deal to have a 1900 only UMTS phone and then have your market deploy UMTS in the 850 band. In any case it will likely be gradual though (who knows only one radio is needed to make the switch).

Just some ideas.

Oh yah, your points are completely valid too. Maybe even more so with the phone switching addicts that tend to hang on these forums. Everyone may switch their UMTS phone out before 850 even deploys.





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