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Originally Posted by Paco
Regarding the AMR feature that is available, I thought I'd post this here (from the Cingular forum) for reference of Cingular user's. Other carriers may be different, but since I use Cingular, that's the only place I posted:
My question: "Is using AMR bad with Cingular?" From HappyBunny: "*YES*. It gives that lovely garbled voice quality--and Cingular uses it *all* the time on 380 (blue), not just when the network is especially busy. They seem to be doing it because the 380 network does not have enough capacity in So Cal (it may be different where you live), so they compress all the bandwidth to fit everyone on. Result is garbled calls, bad handoffs and one way conversations. The 170 network does not use it all the time. I used to notice it on that one on Sundays, when the network was very busy. I had a phone at the time where I couldnt disable it--and I could hear the quality degradation. But now, no more AMR!" (From HERE> Obviously this is just one person's opinion, but, again, just wanted to share. |
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Originally Posted by simms
Since I first heard about AMR from treatz, I wonder what he'd say about this.. from what I thought AMR was a good thing.
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Originally Posted by Paco
Sounds like the issues some had were all about bad flash files that have now been corrected.
If you care to just flash, 16.3 will work fine. If you want to remove the PlayNow, you'll still need to use 15.94. |
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Originally Posted by eps101
Also, does flashing delete contacts, MMS settings, internet settings, etc?
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Originally Posted by Paco
Yes, it does.
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Originally Posted by r_master78
Hmm weird... I flashed mine through DaVinci before and my CDA is same as Paco's (CDA 102555/15) but right now... my phone says I already have the latest software (R4CK003). I also live in the Bay Area... weird....
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Originally Posted by Paco
I should have mentioned in my first post that my firmware is AMERICA_1. Is yours the same?
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I have yet to hear of anyone using that feature successfully. You have to use the PC software.|
Originally Posted by r_master78
(I only checked it through my phone).
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Originally Posted by Paco
Well there's you problem right there!
I have yet to hear of anyone using that feature successfully. You have to use the PC software. |
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Originally Posted by simms
It's really funny. I had R4DB flashed via davinci, SEUS flashed me back to R4CK when I tried it last night.
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Originally Posted by simms
Apac.
Cda 102555/101 R6a |
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Originally Posted by tdarw
I flashed my phone and I'm still having the same problem, actually I think it's worse now. The flash process was successful.
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Originally Posted by eps101
How did you finally load the driver? I'm also having problems loading the driver.
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Originally Posted by eps101
Got the driver loaded, and successfully flashed with DaVinci.
Now running: W810_R4CK003_MAIN_EU-EMEA-US.DVT W810_R4CK003_FS_AMERICA_1.DVT CDA102555/15 ![]() |
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Originally Posted by Mackie99
I keep getting an "error connecting to server".
I have my firewall and norton security disabled. Why am I having problems? |
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Originally Posted by eg6turbo
me too same problems with everything disabled...maybe the server is down??
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Originally Posted by Mackie99
The server was down last night. It's up now.
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Originally Posted by celluser7
So now this thread is 16 pages long and i DO NOT intend to read thru 16 pages to find my answer so im just gonna ask..
Are there any DOWN falls to this new firmware version..?? I know people were complaining about the light flashing, alarm not working, phone freezing up, etc.. The only problems im having is the dropped calls every once in a while and the phone freeze up at least once per day and i hav had it freeze up on my 7 times in a row..!! If i do this SEUS and upload the newest firmware.. will this mess up anything that worked perfect with the older firmware.?? Thats all i need is to fix the dropped calls, fix the freezing... but then my light will start to flash and alarm not work or speaker volume output goes worse than how horrible it is now.... |
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Originally Posted by celluser7
BUMP
anyone..?? |
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Originally Posted by Non_named
Hi guys,,,
This is my first SE EVER!! Came from Nokia after about 8 years with good experince... I bought W810i of eBay.. I LOVE this phone, but the drop call thing... I read all the 16 pages in this thread, however, i still have some simple questions about the firmware thing, i hope someone will answer my questions... 1- What is the diffrent between MF (Main Firmware) and SF (System Firmware)?? 2- What is CDA stands for and what is it exactly? And why each country have diffrent CDA?? Is the CDA cotains the careir settings (MMS, GPRS..etc)? And what does this number means (CDA102555/15)? 3- Which file should i change to change the diffrent languages?? Should i change the SF or MF or both?? 4- Will I still be able to get the free SEUS after the flash??? 5- What is the diffrent between R4CE, R4CK and R4CF? Is it a languge thing or what?? 6- What does CID-Ignoring means?? Thanks alot guys for all your help, i hope i get the answers for my stupid questions.. I just want to learn more about SE world ![]() |
im new to cingular and SE. Any info is appreciated.

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Originally Posted by Paco
1. The MAIN is the core firmware. A single MAIN will often cover many regions. The FS is the language and customizations files. Simplified, with the FS you are choosing the languages you want on your phone. The latest Davinci client makes it very simple. Do not worry about MAIN and FS. Just choose the firmware you want, and the client will download the correct matching pair.
2. The CDA refers to the region you want your phone associated with. This is used by SEUS to determine if you need a firmware update. Typically you would choose a CDA that corresponds to the firmware you chose. So for example, if you are in the USA and installed AMERICA1 generic firmware, you would likely want a CDA for Generic USA, which happens to be 102555/15. Again, the latest davinci client includes a list of CDAs for the W810 that you can just choose from. 3. See item #1. From the Davinci firmware list, just choose the one for the appropriate languages you want, and the client will download the correct file pair. Some firmware pairs are obvious what languages they include, like CHINA, but others are not entirely clear, like EU1, EU2, EU3, etc. If you know what languages you want, but not sure which firmware pack includes it, ask, and hopefully someone will have the answer ![]() 4. Yes. If you choose a correct CDA, and firmware becomes available via SEUS, you will be able to download it. Flashing does not make SEUS not work. It is only when people use an incorrect CDA that problems occur. 5. Version numbers. They are sequential, so R4DBxxx is the latest. 6. This option is only in the 15.xx versions of the client. Ignore it, do not check it. Also, do not check the Increase SMS inbox volume option. If you are planning to do just a simple flash, you can use 16.3, which does not include those options. Hope that helps. Other should please correct any inaccuracies. |
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Originally Posted by simms
I've got R4CK with AMR right now. If I flash with 16.3, do I need to refinalize a second time with AMR options to keep my AMR?
Or can I just use one credit, flash to R4CE GENERIC AMERICAS1 and I'll still have AMR because it was on my phone before? |
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Originally Posted by Paco
16.41 is now out. Comments say '-AMR customization improved'. Hopefully that means that the program is more logical about it.
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Originally Posted by simms
Let's hope so.. I'm going to give wotan a try and see how easy their process is.
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Originally Posted by Non_named
Paco,
I have a question about the CDA... What will happen if you choose a CDA for the states and FW/SF for another reagion (China for example)?? Will the phone update or not?? If yes, will it update accourding to the CDA (USA) or the SF/FW (China)?? Thanks!! |
I started out with R4CK with the singapore CDA and now its fully converted to American english and firmware. So to answer the question, SEUS will update your phone according to what CDA you have.

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Originally Posted by bjai02
Sorry for the noob question.
I would liek to flash my w810i with firmware that fix the drop call problems, but I would like to retain the Chinese input that it comes with... 1) Do I still need to use the third party flash other than the SEUS connects me to? 2) If so, which region should I pick if I want to fix the drop calls and also keep the Chinese and English input? |
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Originally Posted by simms
It depends. What FW are you running right now? If you already have Chinese you could use SEUS to update the FW.
Otherwise, you will need to get FW APAC with Main CHINA to get both English and Chinese and use Davinci or Wotan to flash. |
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Originally Posted by bjai02
I don't have my phone with me now (currently on business trip with my business phone) so I can;t check the firmware. Yes, I bought this phone from HK, so it already has Chinese and English installed. But since I live in the US and using Cingular, it drop calls like everyone else. Does it mean all I need is to update the firmware with SEUS, and choose HONG KONG when choosing this region? Or I must choose USA as my region if I want to fix the problem?
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Originally Posted by simms
You can't change the region on your phone unless you flash your phone using a 3rd party app like wotan or davinci.
If you try to plug it into SEUS, SEUS will just update you to the latest FW. There are no options to choose from. |
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Originally Posted by pinoytoy
whats the difference between america1 and america2??
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Originally Posted by pinoytoy
So confused now... i downloaded the client... which application do i use??
davinciflasher or DVTupdate |
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Originally Posted by mbeutler
Do you have a genuine Sony memory stick?
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Originally Posted by brownafroduck
I read all the pages in this huge thread... And if I'm not mistaken, I believe that I read that when you flash your phone, your contacts are deleted.
Can I back them up somewhere? Also, should I just flash to the latest firmware (R4DB, I believe) or should I go with R4CK003 since so many people who have Cingular like me have used that one and it has worked? |
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Originally Posted by mbeutler
You need to change the CDA, but you do not need to flash anything. However, this will still cost 1 credit. If you go in the advanced options of the davinci software you will see an option to not flash the phone, which should be checked. I don't see the program on my computer anymore or I would tell you exactly what I did. Anyway, hope this helps.
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Originally Posted by Logi7
do you haev the 1gb model?
i hear the 512s will play them as theyre older firmare |
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Originally Posted by Paco
Flashing is safe. Tons of us have flashed with no problems whatsoever. But like anything in life, things can happen. I stand by my original comment. If your phone works fine, and if something bad should happen when flashing and you can't afford to replace it if it does (assuming SE won't fix it), then don't flash.
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Originally Posted by runkelb
I just flashed my phone using the instructions in this thread (R4CK003) and everything worked. However, I just realized that that there is a newer firmware (R4DB005). When I tried using the phones Update Service, it tells me I have the latest software, when I know that is not true.
Under Software Info: Customization CDA102555/15 R6A cxc1250324 R4CK003 ZEOW AMERICA_1 Please help. Thanks. |
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Originally Posted by tha_dream
hi im a newbie wiith the w810 i. im getting a new w810i from rogers this week and i need the phone unlocked. i was wondering if flashing the phone does this, or do i need to get it unlocked seperately. and should i get the phone unlocked before or after flashing (does it make a difference). and what is the latest version of the firmware that i should be using. and i think that flashing the phone will de-brand all the rogers stuff from the phone, can anyone confirm. any help would be appreciated. im not the greatest with understanding all this flashing stuff, so im sure ill be posting again if i come across some problems when i get the phone.
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Originally Posted by Antioch18
How can you tell which languages come with which firmware?
I'd like to get the firmware with English/Chinese support (in an attempt to be able to browse Japanese webpages, as works with my Nokia with English/Chinese language support). Thanks a ton. Is there any other way to flash, like an official SE piece of software? |
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Originally Posted by demon87
Hy
I really got a huge problem with my w810i. I think its because i didnt stop the usb drivers but pulled out the cable from the phone. It turned off like it always does when unpluging the usb cable,it turn on by itself,but then it turn off again and started to turn off and on again over and over and over again. i cant do anything know. The pc doesnt recognize the phone because its keeping turning on and off. I really need some help with this guys please help me Is there any free software for repairing the phone. I cant use Davinci because i dont have a PayPal acount and cant make any because i dont have a credit card. Please help me |
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Originally Posted by demon87
It doesnt helps when taking out the sim card,when taking out the memory card or both.
I tried much things. When i turn the phone on it displays the welcome menu where i can either put in my pin and use all phone features or just the walkman feature. When i put in my pin it starts then serches for a network and as soon as it find the network it turns off,and then on...and off again........and so on, but when i use the walkman feature in the startup it works fine. Is there any free software for repairing it |
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Originally Posted by demon87
It doesnt helps when taking out the sim card,when taking out the memory card or both.
I tried much things. When i turn the phone on it displays the welcome menu where i can either put in my pin and use all phone features or just the walkman feature. When i put in my pin it starts then serches for a network and as soon as it find the network it turns off,and then on...and off again........and so on, but when i use the walkman feature in the startup it works fine. Is there any free software for repairing it |
and solved the issue!
I was afraid you'd say that.|
Originally Posted by eagg1269
Hi all, just need helps!!!!!
I just got my new w810i couple days ago from howardforums.com.com. It came with the newest firmware R4DB005 with CDA102555/6 R2A. However, I can definitely tell that the phone was made for Mid East region by checking the CDA from the table as well as the Mid East Lauguage pack from the language menu. I wanted to flash the firmware so that I can load it with the firmware with Chinese Language pack, as well as change the CDA to american one 102555/15 so that I can get all the latest US reginon update from SEUS. My questions are: 1. Can I choose a firmware pair that is with Chinese language pack (such from China or HK version of R4DB005), but with the American CDA 102555/15? 2. If I could, after flashing it, can I still get the update for US region from SEUS? From reading your post, I thought I could since SEUS will read a US CDA from my phone after flashing it, and then will allow me to update. 3. If I just change the CDA, then can I get rid of the Mid East language pack from my phone and update them with either American or Asian version? |
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Originally Posted by sifatshah
I finally went ahead an flashed my phone through WotanServer first to R4CK003, and then to R4DB005. It didn't help at all. So I starting using my T610i again just so I wouldn't miss any important calls from my office. I think this is a carrier related issue (I'm on Fido). I know a girl that lives spitting distance from my house and she seems to be having the same problem. Only she has a QuadBand Nokia and I have an SE W810i. If I use a Triband phone I have no problem at all.
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It does not do this for me, but it snaps pictures fine. My button feels very soft and I'm wondering if this is a physical hardware problem. Thanks.
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Originally Posted by fred109
I just picked up a w810i today and would like to flash through the Wotanserver (seems easier than davinciteam to me) but I have a concern on the warranty. Will this void it at all?
I want to take off all the cingy branding and allow support for flash themes! |
P.S. When you press the dedicated silver camera button from the main menu, does it take you to the camera screen? It does not do this for me, but it snaps pictures fine. My button feels very soft and I'm wondering if this is a physical hardware problem. Thanks.
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Originally Posted by Fidget
hey guys, i want to buy the w810 but i dont really want to flash or anything, is there anywhere i can buy the phone where it is already updated so it doesnt have droped calls.......thanks
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Originally Posted by dashakes
I just did my first flash, and for some reason i'm not getting any voicemail alerts anymore. and is there a reason why i'm not getting voicemail alerts?
Thanks! |
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Originally Posted by celluser7
Flashing wont void the warranty but taking off the cingy brand will if u report it as damaged for a replacement. Then they will want to see it in person b4 they exchange it... "from personal experience"
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If there isn't a way to do this, then would I be able to flash back to Cingular firmware?|
Originally Posted by celluser7
U must push it ALL the way down and hold it there for about 1 full second. Pushing it only half way will NOT activate the camera... u must push it all the way down.
Once the camera is active... pushing it half way down will do the auto-focus, then u push it all the way to snap the shot |
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Originally Posted by fred109
Is there any way to activate Flash menus w/o debranding all the logos? As long as I can get the Flash Lite menus working I'll be happy, damn cingy.
If there isn't a way to do this, then would I be able to flash back to Cingular firmware? |
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Originally Posted by DjShiznit
Anyone know if this resolves the restriction on using MP3 songs as ringtones?
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Originally Posted by wcl884
I debranded my Cingular W810i.
It was good and bad. I had to look for the MediaNet settings (got them through Cingular and SE Websites). What I wasn't sure about is that the Medianet setting is labeled "Cingular GPRS" and whether the phone will take advantage of EDGE. The Camera snap sound is gone. The Right button with the Cingular Jack is now enabled as a short cut menu. The phone does not drop calls. The ear piece sound is really low. I can use MP3 as ringtones. There are no static sounds when I place MP3. |
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Originally Posted by wcl884
No - I tried to flash back to the cingular theme - but can't (unless you have the file saved before flashing) - don't ask me how - I wish I had done that before.
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Originally Posted by thedrod
Ok people are telling me the cable used to flash the W810i is not the USB cable that ships with the phone. Is this true? I purchased my W810i from Cingular.
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Originally Posted by stevemurphy_21
i already set up the entire thing with the right internet settings, but still reading "connection failure, if problem persists, contact operator for support".
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Originally Posted by infernal21
I just finished flashing my w810 without removing sim/mem card even tho im suppose to. Will anything happen to my phone?
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Originally Posted by makoona
After unbranding with wotan, the voicemail icon doesn't tell me how many messages I have waiting with the tiny number anymore.. anyone else lose this feature after unbranding and flashing?
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Originally Posted by skorpiond
Guys, I have a davinci credit for sale $10
Reason: I bought a credit this morning and after I applied to my phone (forgot to click the finalization option) and credit was used, but phone gave me an error saying "Configuration error. Please contact your network operator or service centre" I emailed them, but didn't get a reply back on time, so I bought a 2nd credit and fixed the problem. I spoke with davinci support directly using MSN and they gave me an extra credit; see below: Dannye says: Hi there Dannye says: I need URGENT Help, can you please assist? GsMen says: hi GsMen says: tell me Dannye says: well, I just purchased a third credit and solved the issue!Dannye says: can I get a refund for the 2nd credit? GsMen says: I can give you 1 new credit GsMen says: we not refund moneys Dannye says: uhm I was afraid you'd say that.Dannye says: alright send me the credit then Contact me if interested. Thanks, Dannye |
vuala . Got a new debranded w810. its amaizing all the stuff cingular take off on this phone . cingular are very stupid company, branded phone will keep costumers scare out to buy the w810.|
Originally Posted by daxfx
I follow step by step , download files you said ,, and flash the phone. When finish flashin and turn on the phone said configuration error.. I olmost take out my gun and shoot the pc and the phone .. try a 2nd time and the same result. Mine was cingular branded and really suck compare with original w810. So what I do,, forgot you F%^$ step by step instruction and go the way by miself. I download the latest logger client 17.3 went to flashes tab, select " W810 R4EA031/R4ED001:AMERICA 2: AE PB XL " press on "get files" when finish download went to flash tab , select the firmware and use the "CDA 102555/15 - generic usa" start flashing ..
vuala . Got a new debranded w810. its amaizing all the stuff cingular take off on this phone . cingular are very stupid company, branded phone will keep costumers scare out to buy the w810.P.D. sorry about the (F%^$) word but I almost kill my self when I read (configuration error please contact service provided) the first thing that come to my mind was I kill my one week new phone and warranty won't cover me for do a debrand jeje happy that at the end gotit debranded.. 2nd P.D someone know how to configure IM to use with MSN, Hotmail, Windows live whatever. 3rd P.D Pardon my english , not american: Puerto rico BORICUA DE PURA SEPA |
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Originally Posted by Ronin317
From what I'm reading that others have said (as I have not done this myself, and probably won't for the time being), you'll need to reset the web settings for your phone to Cingular settings, which can be sent to your phone either from the Cingular site or SE usa site. It's somewhere in the debranding thread...sorry I don't have a direct link (I've spent the last hour reading on stuff to do with this phone...)
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Originally Posted by thov00001
I just finished doing this, and am getting this message now:
"Configuration error. Please contact your service provider or service center." How do I fix this? |
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Originally Posted by thov00001
I just finished doing this, and am getting this message now:
"Configuration error. Please contact your service provider or service center." How do I fix this? |
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Originally Posted by testing01225
hey guys... quick question:
the current version on my w810 has always been R4CK003 |
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got loads of stuff extra and all the vodafone crap has gone,just need to work out internet settings on PAYT now as I`ve lost all my downloaded games and browser settings.For some reason Ive tried to upload pictures via the cable and they`re not there, even tho my computer says they are and I can view them thru my PC??
any ideas?
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