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Nokia 6126 (RELEASED)
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Posted by: Topsales

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Originally Posted by bobolito

Are you sure? I don't see the 6126 on Suncom's website.

However, they did beat Cingular with the W810, plus they also have the Sidekick which Cingular never wanted to carry.

Remove the link if necessary:
http://www.letstalk.com/product/product.htm?prId=31576

Posted by: bobolito

Yeah, but that's Let's talk selling the phone, not Suncom. Doesn't mean that Suncom released it.

Posted by: Slowpoke SS

Man, the Nokia 6270 looks sweet. I had to take my gf to SFO today then went down to a couple of import stores in Burlingame and saw the 6270. I was going to pick it up too but the salesperson said that I should wait until my contract expires then sign up for new service (probably didn't want to sell it and lose commission).

Posted by: I have a phone

as they say on Mythbusters: Busted!

Posted by: I have a phone

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Originally Posted by Slowpoke SS

I was going to pick it up too but the salesperson said that I should wait until my contract expires then sign up for new service (probably didn't want to sell it and lose commission).

way to help churn

Posted by: Topsales

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobolito

Yeah, but that's Let's talk selling the phone, not Suncom. Doesn't mean that Suncom released it.

But it means it has been released by Nokia, or am I wrong on that too?

Posted by: I have a phone

Quote:

Originally Posted by alevin

But it means it has been released by Nokia, or am I wrong on that too?

nokia will release anything that they think will make them a few bucks

Posted by: Slowpoke SS

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Originally Posted by I have a phone

way to help churn

I'm not getting it IHAP :P
I was ready to pay for it out the door at $330 but he suggested that I get it with a new line - which I wouldn't do anyhow.

Posted by: I have a phone

sorry, I meant the salesperson

Posted by: Slowpoke SS

To be honest if it does get out Aug 16 the 6126 is an excellent deal too at $249 NC.

Posted by: bobolito

Quote:

Originally Posted by alevin

But it means it has been released by Nokia, or am I wrong on that too?

Maybe Nokia is starting to ship it to the resellers before they start selling it directly.

Posted by: Antioch18

That would make me happy. Im running on a temp, crappy phone right now just waiting to grab a 6126...

I hope it comes out within the next few weeks.

Posted by: Ronin317

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobolito

Maybe Nokia is starting to ship it to the resellers before they start selling it directly.

Working in the CE industry, this is pretty much a given...

Posted by: bobolito

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slowpoke SS

To be honest if it does get out Aug 16 the 6126 is an excellent deal too at $249 NC.

I wouldn't count on that date.

Posted by: Topsales

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Originally Posted by bobolito

I wouldn't count on that date.

Hey Bobo, the phone is available through Amazon with a Cingular contract. They even show Cingular branding on it. You are probably right for Cingular to carry them though.

Posted by: vitin

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antioch18

That would make me happy. Im running on a temp, crappy phone right now just waiting to grab a 6126...

I hope it comes out within the next few weeks.

sold my moto v557 for nokia 6126

Posted by: Topsales

OOOO...Amazon says 1-2 weeks to ship. Didn't notice that at first. Another pre-order?

I called letstalk, they said they had the units in hand. I have heard that before. They are locked to SunCom.

Posted by: Soopafly

Current status: TBD

Yeah, its not coming this month... LOL

Posted by: damba98

AAARgh! ;(................................................ .....

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Originally Posted by Soopafly

Current status: TBD

Yeah, its not coming this month... LOL

Posted by: ejb5oh

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Originally Posted by cingular_hitman

This phone will not make retail in August.

The rumor floating around HOFO was that the phone might be cancelled and the battery was awful. I felt that was weird as they have no problem releasing LGs with poor batteries....

Anyways, the phone was sent back to Nokia because the plastic that protects the external display was getting scuffed and cracked!!! It had to be redesigned. It was a Nokia problem, not Cingular holding it up.

The phone is first week of September at the earliest. Cingular market communications make it out to be possibly late August but thats not likely, much less even possible as I say this in the first week of August already.

I'd look for approval towards the END of the 3rd week of August and retail availibility in the 1st or 2nd week of September. I also would NOT buy a 6131 as I'm willing to bet it has the faulty outer display. Just my two cents. Good luck.

What a shocker to hear! I have the Nokia 6131 and it is awesome. Great phone with no complaints, other than low volume in the ear piece. I am pretty sure to say that the 6126 is the same build and same great phone, maybe even has the ear piece fix on it.

Also, I have noticed that the phone is for sell on Amazon and Suncom. Phone has not been taken off the market there.

Ejb5oh

Posted by: coldblood333

Does the Nokia 6131 sync up with Outlook? Will the 6126 then? 3rd party software is fine too for syncing, I am just wondering if anyone is able to do that as of now. I know nothing about Nokia phones, so sorry if this is a dumb question.

Posted by: Topsales

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Originally Posted by coldblood333

Does the Nokia 6131 sync up with Outlook? Will the 6126 then? 3rd party software is fine too for syncing, I am just wondering if anyone is able to do that as of now. I know nothing about Nokia phones, so sorry if this is a dumb question.

You should be able to do that with Nokia PC Suite, available free from Nokia.

Posted by: Rcadden

After a delay like this, I wish they'da put UMTS/HSDPA on it. now THAT would be pimp.

Posted by: Topsales

Any truth to the rumor of a 8/14 release date?

Posted by: Rcadden

current retail pricing on CSP expires 8/16 or something like that, and doesn't have it listed, however, it's on all the back to school stuff.

Posted by: nlwalker1

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rcadden

current retail pricing on CSP expires 8/16 or something like that, and doesn't have it listed, however, it's on all the back to school stuff.

i'd look more towards sept..

Posted by: Soopafly

There's actually no date at the moment... there used to be and it was changed to TBD.

Posted by: alexasha

Amazon offers 6126 for 0.01
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...1529610?ie=UTF8
I called them today and it is available. The only problem is I would like to upgrade, not buy the new plan

Posted by: Soopafly

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexasha

Amazon offers 6126 for 0.01
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...1529610?ie=UTF8
I called them today and it is available. The only problem is I would like to upgrade, not buy the new plan

Good luck to you, it's not available, that is why it says ships within 1 to 2 weeks. That would be placing a pre-order for a item they do not have in stock. People who shop Amazon.com already know this....

Posted by: inurb

If I buy a 6126 from cingular will I have to pay extra to have the phone unlocked so I can use an italian TIM sim card in it? Or will cingular simply give me the unlock code if I ask them for it? I want to make sure that if I buy a world phone from Cingular that it will work overseas without having to pay some crazy unlock code price.

P.S. I know the phone isn't out for cingular yet but I just want to make sure as I am in upgrade status currently.

Posted by: HGinNYC

Quote:

Originally Posted by inurb

If I buy a 6126 from cingular will I have to pay extra to have the phone unlocked so I can use an italian TIM sim card in it? Or will cingular simply give me the unlock code if I ask them for it? I want to make sure that if I buy a world phone from Cingular that it will work overseas without having to pay some crazy unlock code price.

P.S. I know the phone isn't out for cingular yet but I just want to make sure as I am in upgrade status currently.

Cingular has been good about requesting a manufacturer's unlock code for customers if they have international calling on their phone and have been fairly long-term customers. It usually takes a few days and they email it to you. This is what happened with my Samsung a few months ago (pity - I hated that phone, which is why I bought the 6131, which I love). I was not charged for the code.

Posted by: vitin

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rcadden

current retail pricing on CSP expires 8/16 or something like that, and doesn't have it listed, however, it's on all the back to school stuff.

see promo in local corporate store and nokia 6216 review in www.cnet.com

Posted by: bluesman78

End of summer or end of August??? September 23rd or August 31st!!!

I'm wating this becuase I'm about to Migrate to GSm and don't want to get the RAZR if I can wait a bit longer and get this phone..... I wonder if the Nokia will have bugs though initialy. RAZR seems to have gone though the bug phase.

Posted by: inurb

I was at a cingular store tonight and they had this promo advert with a photo of the 6126 as being offered for cingulars back to school sale.

Posted by: bobolito

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rcadden

After a delay like this, I wish they'da put UMTS/HSDPA on it. now THAT would be pimp.

The phone already has horrible battery life as it is. Adding HSDPA would probably cut down its battery life to about 5 minutes total talktime per full charge.

Posted by: bobolito

Quote:

Originally Posted by inurb

I was at a cingular store tonight and they had this promo advert with a photo of the 6126 as being offered for cingulars back to school sale.

They were supposed to remove that promo from the stores.

Posted by: bobolito

Quote:

Originally Posted by vitin

see promo in local corporate store and nokia 6216 review in www.cnet.com

It's the first time I read someone saying the phone has a great battery life. It is in the user review at the end of the article.

Posted by: stevefo

I almost bought the unlocked version a while back and decided not to with all the reported problems with call volume and battery life. I was going to wait and buy it when Cingular releases it. I guess I will wait until all the bugs have been hammered out.

Posted by: barrister68

A friend of mine just bought the 6126 on Amazon. No shipping confirmation yet. I'll report back after he gets it.

Posted by: Topsales

Best Buy is showing it in their cellular ad for Cingular.

Posted by: daviddsims

Barrister keep us posted on this I am curious if amazon gets it and if so how long.

Posted by: maverick22

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Originally Posted by alevin

Best Buy is showing it in their cellular ad for Cingular.

what zip code? It wasn't in my ad for Dallas, TX. Are you sure you weren't mistaken for the 6103 or 6102i?

Posted by: Topsales

Quote:

Originally Posted by maverick22

what zip code? It wasn't in my ad for Dallas, TX. Are you sure you weren't mistaken for the 6103 or 6102i?

Here is a link:
http://bestbuy.shoplocal.com/bestbu...61&pagenumber=6
I tried to buy it, but it wouldn't let me. I just thought it was interesting to find.

Posted by: maverick22

Quote:

Originally Posted by alevin

Here is a link:
http://bestbuy.shoplocal.com/bestbu...61&pagenumber=6
I tried to buy it, but it wouldn't let me. I just thought it was interesting to find.

Okay, cool. Yeah, won't let you buy it.

Hope it's comin' soon...kinda doubt it though.

Posted by: rlan214

Quote:

Originally Posted by maverick22

Okay, cool. Yeah, won't let you buy it.

Hope it's comin' soon...kinda doubt it though.

time to call my friend that works in bestbuy(metro detroit area) to see if they have it also

Posted by: Tjash2010

Hmm....

This is worth a trip down to my local bestbuy to have a chat with a sale associate about this phone.

I really want this phone and probebly will buy it at the No Contract Price just like I did my Cu500 which I alredy sold for a V3i D&G phone.

Posted by: Antioch18

Ah, I hope this bad boy comes out within a week or two. I've been itching for it for a long long time now.

Posted by: cellmet

I've called 3 different Cingular stores in my area (Utah County, Utah) this morning and no one has even heard of the 6126. 2 of them said they didn't even see it on the upcoming phones list. Are they just feeding me a line because they are supposed to keep hush-hush, or do they really have no idea? Kind of frustrating.

Posted by: inurb

store associates usually have no idea of upcoming phones.

Posted by: maverick22

Best Buy got their dummy phones in for the 6126. The girl didn't know when the actual phones were going to be available. She didn't have the pricing for it either.

How long are ya'll guessing since they got the dummies in...or is this not a very good indication of when the phone will be available?

Posted by: cellmet

Actually called another store this afternoon in Orem, UT, I think it's an authorized retailer, but it's just like a Cingular corporate store; I was told they were expecting them by the end of the month. We'll see.

Posted by: Antioch18

Unfortunately this phone took so long to get to market, it's no longer the best phone out there. Sure its packed with features, but it's fat. Look at the LG Chocolate, the Samsung D900 or evne the Motorola RAZR. They're all just as good as the 6126 but a LOT thinner.

My roommate actually has a Chocolate, and it feels really nice and solid. Opens very smoothly as well. Feels like a really nice phone.

Posted by: ejb5oh

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antioch18

Unfortunately this phone took so long to get to market, it's no longer the best phone out there. Sure its packed with features, but it's fat. Look at the LG Chocolate, the Samsung D900 or evne the Motorola RAZR. They're all just as good as the 6126 but a LOT thinner.

My roommate actually has a Chocolate, and it feels really nice and solid. Opens very smoothly as well. Feels like a really nice phone.

You cannot even compare the 6126 or 6131 to the moto razr. Nokia is a class of its own where there are no other comparisons. I have been the owner of the Razr. The Razr is an over priced 1999 model phone. Lousy phone. Furthermore, the Chocolate and Samsung are not even in the same class for comparison.

Posted by: composmentis

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Originally Posted by ejb5oh

Furthermore, the Chocolate and Samsung are not even in the same class for comparison.

I will have to disagree with your point that these phones aren't in the same class. The 6126 isn't a Symbian phone and it's not a high-end Nokia. To compare the Chocolate or one of the many Samsung A-series is perfectly reasonable. I had high hopes for the 6126, but Cingular took WAY too long to release it and I jumped on the CU500 the minute it came out.

Posted by: ejb5oh

Quote:

Originally Posted by composmentis

I can understand where you are coming from. I am a die hard Nokia fan. And, by using other brands, ie Moto, LG, Samsung, etc., I have only found my loyalty to Nokia strengthening.

I could not wait for the 6126 either. Therefore, I just went ahead and purchased the 6131. However, I never keep my new phones all that long, as I am constantly wanting to try out the newest badest phone on the market. I am currently looking at trading in my 6131 now for the E50.

Posted by: nlwalker1

ok i talked to a nokia rep and here is the reason for the long wait. The 6126 was not going to have a protective screen over the internal lcd. The Cingular Phone gods didn't like that. they had nokia take the phone back and design a protective screen to go over the internal lcd to protect it. hmmm

why not do this from the beginning?

Posted by: inurb

Quote:

Originally Posted by nlwalker1

ok i talked to a nokia rep and here is the reason for the long wait. The 6126 was not going to have a protective screen over the internal lcd. The Cingular Phone gods didn't like that. they had nokia take the phone back and design a protective screen to go over the internal lcd to protect it. hmmm

why not do this from the beginning?

That makes sense, as the 6131 did not have the protective screen and it stained very easily. The LCD was a pia to clean and even a reviewer said the LCD stained just minutes after touching it.

I forgot to ask. When cingular does release the 6126, how long afterwards do you think we'll be able to find unlocked unbranded 6126 versions? Does it take a while to pop up on ebay and websites?

Posted by: macizcool

So do you guys who already have the 6131/6126 think that it is durable? Most Nokias are, but I would like to make sure things haven't changed before I get this one for my dad.

Posted by: bobolito

Judging by the pictures I've seen, it looks like the rubberized finish tends to peel off easily.

Posted by: Coastal

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobolito

Judging by the pictures I've seen, it looks like the rubberized finish tends to peel off easily.

Although it hasn't been mentioned as one of the issues responsible the delay, I'm really hoping it's on the list of things Cingular is having Nokia fix/improve before releasing the phone.

Posted by: damba98

Most of those tiny screens 'stain' per se. You just need to clean off the cheeto residue and oils from your hands/skin etc. before reviewing a new handset

. How well it cleans off is another issue obviously. [What did they use to clean it off??]

-Pedro

Quote:

Originally Posted by inurb

That makes sense, as the 6131 did not have the protective screen and it stained very easily. The LCD was a pia to clean and even a reviewer said the LCD stained just minutes after touching it.

Posted by: Topsales

Quote:

Originally Posted by damba98

Most of those tiny screens 'stain' per se. You just need to clean off the cheeto residue and oils from your hands/skin etc. before reviewing a new handset

. How well it cleans off is another issue obviously. [What did they use to clean it off??]

-Pedro

Another reason why my monitor smells like coffee.

I have had no problem cleaning the screen with glasses cleaning cloths.

Posted by: Serifan

Quote:

Originally Posted by composmentis

The 6126 isn't a Symbian phone and it's not a high-end Nokia.

No Symbian = no smartphone, but otherwise, it's fairly high-end.

Posted by: I have a phone

Quote:

Originally Posted by freck

but otherwise, it's fairly high-end.

with the "chrome" wearing off you could have fooled me

Posted by: Serifan

Quote:

Originally Posted by I have a phone

with the "chrome" wearing off you could have fooled me

I wasn't referring to the build quality. My point was that just because a phone doesn't have Symbian that doesn't mean that it's not high-end.

Posted by: I have a phone

yes, I agree with you there.

Posted by: Topsales

IHAP or anyone else, any updates on Cingular's release date? 30 days or less?

Posted by: bobolito

Well, at least we know the release was not the 17th.

Posted by: macizcool

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobolito

Well, at least we know the release was not the 17th.

I have insider information that says the release date is Aug. 17th.

Posted by: I have a phone

Quote:

Originally Posted by macizcool

I have insider information that says the release date is Aug. 17th.

you might want to double check that source

Posted by: Topsales

Quote:

Originally Posted by macizcool

I have insider information that says the release date is Aug. 17th.

Aug. 17th or Sept. 17th?

Posted by: anubis9278

Quote:

Originally Posted by macizcool

I have insider information that says the release date is Aug. 17th.

i have a question...when you say insider information who are you referring to? don't name names just title or something...like an ram, rae, rss, css, rfe, dts, b2b, or agent.

cause everyone that works for / with Cingular knows 6126 is TBD a week ago.

Posted by: I have a phone

agent? Someone like Maxwell Smart?

Posted by: Topsales

Quote:

Originally Posted by I have a phone

agent? Someone like Maxwell Smart?

Wife, get me a towel please! I just spit beer at my monitor again!

Posted by: bobolito

Quote:

Originally Posted by macizcool

I have insider information that says the release date is Aug. 17th.

....which is TODAY!

So that insider information is outdated.

Posted by: anubis9278

Quote:

Originally Posted by I have a phone

agent? Someone like Maxwell Smart?

more like Johnny English.

Posted by: bluesman78

Shoot, is this phone even worth waiting for? What about the LG phone. I just have brand loyalty to Nokia.. I am going to get a decent discount for migrating to GSM so I want to use this one time deal right now!

Posted by: macizcool

Quote:

Originally Posted by anubis9278

Actually, it was the salesperson selling GoPhones at K-Mart.

Posted by: Coastal

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobolito

....which is TODAY!

So that insider information is outdated.

He didn't say what year. 2007? 2008??

Quote:

Originally Posted by bluesman78

I just have brand loyalty to Nokia.. I am going to get a decent discount for migrating to GSM so I want to use this one time deal right now!

Same here! I've been sticking it out with TDMA waiting (and waiting, and waiting) for this phone, but with service that's detiorated to what I'd expect from 2 tin cans and some string and getting the notice about the $4.99 charge for staying on TDMA starting next month, I've decided that if the Cingular 3125 comes out first I'll give it a shot.

Posted by: helpermonkey

Quote:

Originally Posted by bluesman78

Shoot, is this phone even worth waiting for? What about the LG phone. I just have brand loyalty to Nokia.. I am going to get a decent discount for migrating to GSM so I want to use this one time deal right now!

In short I would say NO it is not worth waiting for, that is why it is taking so long anyway (in my oppinion).

Posted by: bluesman78

Yeah but someone said in the thread I posted in the main forum "Told to migrate of leave Cingular" that they saw the phone in Bestbuy on display without an advertised price...

Posted by: FormulaNY

Yup that was me

. I saw the phone this Monday 8/14/06 at the Best Buy (in Queens NY) display table. I asked about pricing but the best buy agents said they wont know until this weekend when the phone will be for sale. They said they had the phone in stock but could not sell it till this weekend.

Posted by: maverick22

Quote:

Originally Posted by FormulaNY

Yup that was me

That's good to hear! Hopefully it WILL be this weekend.

I've gone to two Best Buys in my area (Dallas), and they both have received the dummy phones, but not the actual phones to sell. They had no idea about the pricing/release date though.

Posted by: .7

thread title updated to reflect new info from my sources.

I will update as soon as I hear more info.

Posted by: Rcadden

Wow. Yet another phone whose unbranded counterpart has done exceptionally well, but for some reason, Cingular seems to butcher. Come on, really.

The list thus far:

6230
6126/6131
RAZR V3i
v600
a630 - well, I guess the unbranded didn't do all that well, either.

Posted by: DigiPilot

<tinfoil_hat_mode=on>

Has anyone else seen a theme amongst practically all the US wireless phone service providers this summer, where all the coolest phones with all the most desireable geek features, are almost making it to release, but getting shot down in the 11th hour, or otherwised delayed for what seems indefinitely?

Nokia high-end phones seem to be catching the worst of it, but a more common theme is any phone that easily interfaces with a PC to copy audio & video files back & forth (BT, IR, USB) and phones that can record videos and phone conversations to a large (1GB or 2GB) flash memory removeable card.

<tinfoil_hat_mode=off>

Posted by: Rcadden

.7, can you share any deets on why it's delayed/cancelled?

Posted by: Joe Kewl

Nokia 6282 also... F'n Cingular....

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rcadden

Wow. Yet another phone whose unbranded counterpart has done exceptionally well, but for some reason, Cingular seems to butcher. Come on, really.

The list thus far:

6230
6126/6131
RAZR V3i
v600
a630 - well, I guess the unbranded didn't do all that well, either.

Posted by: macizcool

OMG, incredible!

Posted by: pauldg

Posted by: shoman94

I love my 6131.... Pros outway the Cons

Posted by: .7

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rcadden

.7, can you share any deets on why it's delayed/cancelled?

Ill do my best to get some information. However, with stuff like this im really at the mercy of those who feed me the scoop and on this I wasnt given specifics.

Ill see what I can do.

Posted by: helpermonkey

Hmm, and I thought they were ging to pass it! Ha ha, sorry I know a lot of people are upset about it. I can not say I am. It is not an impressive device (nor was the 6282 for those still unhappy about that). Take this oportunity to get a better phone. It is sad that Nokia is not really getting any good product into the stores.

Posted by: maverick22

Dabernit--say it ain't so, .7, say it ain't so!

Posted by: macizcool

I don't see how it could be canceled, since stores are putting out the dummies and Amazon is advertising it. To me, it seems that there was some definite word that it was coming out. Is this wrong to assume?

I am really hoping it comes out before Sept 24th... My dad wants a RAZR for his birthday, and I would much rather get him this Nokia.... And I kinda want it, too

Posted by: macizcool

BTW, I want to thank .7 for putting these stickies up about the latest phones, along with their current status. It really does keep things clean and neat in this forum!

Posted by: maverick22

Quote:

Originally Posted by macizcool

BTW, I want to thank .7 for putting these stickies up about the latest phones, along with their current status. It really does keep things clean and neat in this forum!

Yep...true! Thanks .7

Posted by: maverick22

Quote:

Originally Posted by macizcool

I don't see how it could be canceled, since stores are putting out the dummies and Amazon is advertising it. To me, it seems that there was some definite word that it was coming out. Is this wrong to assume?

I was thinking the same thing. Can't wait to hear .7's update on the phone.

Posted by: Topsales

I, too, can't imagine BB and Amazon spending the money to advertise a phone that was not guaranteed to be released. It must also cost a lot for Cingular to test the phones and to take so long to cancel it seems weird, but I am sure that can happen.

I really don't understand why it would be cancelled. I have had some really bad carrier supplied phones, so their "testing" can sometimes, IMO, be wrong. This phone seems worlds away better than most of the junk I see on all the carriers.

Helpermonkey, you mentioned this is an opportunity to get a better phone. What would be your idea of a better phone?

Posted by: .7

Ive asked my source to clarify but until then I really dont know.

Its possible its just delayed so I deleted the canceled from the title until I hear why.

I guess right now its safe to assume that somethings going on with it that might delay it further.

If anyone in the know would like to confim this or it us up with any info it would be appreicated.

...and you welcome for the stickies

Posted by: Cellwind929

I spoke with my nokia rep. They said they were going to ask approval from cingular on monday 8/21/06. If it passes the phone should be out a week from then, 8/28/06. Thats what I've heard.

Posted by: maverick22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cellwind929

I spoke with my nokia rep. They said they were going to ask approval from cingular on monday 8/21/06. If it passes the phone should be out a week from then, 8/28/06. Thats what I've heard.

I hope you're right!

Posted by: bigmike20

It amazes me how Nokia is the #1 cellphone manufacturer in the world specially w/ their latest Q2 result and Cingular seems to not care and refuse to carry their phones.

Posted by: DigiPilot

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigmike20

It amazes me how Nokia is the #1 cellphone manufacturer in the world specially w/ their latest Q2 result and Cingular seems to not care and refuse to carry their phones.

It's not just a Cingular vs. Nokia thing. It's an "all US wireless carriers" vs Nokia phenominon, and I have a hunch that it has something to do with the legal battles between Qualcomm and Nokia that are going on right now. It's almost as if there's some kind of behind-the-scenes thing happening to harm Nokia's position in the US market by keeping their premium phones from being sold on all the major US wireless carriers.

Posted by: macizcool

Quote:

Originally Posted by alevin

I really don't understand why it would be cancelled. I have had some really bad carrier supplied phones, so their "testing" can sometimes, IMO, be wrong. This phone seems worlds away better than most of the junk I see on all the carriers.

Man, I feel you there! Sometimes I swear that the people testing these phones are drunk and high, as some phones are obviously still buggy upon release.

Posted by: blumoto

I was at best buy on old country road in westbury new york and they have them in stock and will be selling them first thing tuesday morning(according to the sales rep) to coincide with a print ad they will be running in all the major nyc papers, hope this helps my wife really wants one(gotta keep the wife happy), anyhow on the whole nokia vs cing. thing I think cingular is so far up motos a$$ they can't see the light at the end of the nokia tunnel, trust me having to shell out $750 for a n73 with 2100 umts is crazy but these n series models are light years above what everyone else is selling, plus the whole qualcomm thing makes sense too.

Posted by: maverick22

Quote:

Originally Posted by blumoto

I was at best buy on old country road in westbury new york and they have them in stock and will be selling them first thing tuesday morning(according to the sales rep) to coincide with a print ad they will be running in all the major nyc papers, hope this helps my wife really wants one(gotta keep the wife happy), anyhow on the whole nokia vs cing. thing I think cingular is so far up motos a$$ they can't see the light at the end of the nokia tunnel, trust me having to shell out $750 for a n73 with 2100 umts is crazy but these n series models are light years above what everyone else is selling, plus the whole qualcomm thing makes sense too.

It seems if/when the 6126 comes out, Best Buy will carry it. Does anyone know if Radio Shack is going to?

Posted by: helpermonkey

Quote:

Originally Posted by alevin

Helpermonkey, you mentioned this is an opportunity to get a better phone. What would be your idea of a better phone?

Depends on what your idea of a good phone is. I would prefer a smartphone or PDA phone ideally, but I like several phones. I think the Sony Ericsson w810i is pretty nice, the V3i is not bad either. The V3 is a very good performer on the Cingular network and it has much better materials than your typical phone. Its too bad the Motorola OS interface sucks so bad. I also like the Samsung D807, I think it has a great interface, very nice materials and I really like the slide. The D807 is not the best phone around, it is not as loud as could be, as many phones are not, and is not the RF strength champ, but it has served me well. The LG CU500 is nice for a 3G phone currently, but not perfect by any means. I like the Sony Ericsson Z525a PTT as well even if it needs a little work too. I have seen more Nokias that I don't like lately or am dissapointed in, than ones I do like. The 6282 was nothing to write hone about, this phone is not impressive, the 8801 was junk too.

Posted by: sportnmud

ive been following up off and on about the release of the 6126. It seems to be the perfect phone for me. It being a flip phone with microsd, bt, and the small size. I was really looking to upgrade my phone soon and i thought this would be the one. Since no one knows when it will come out, is there anything comparable to this phone out right now or in the near future? any suggestions would be appreciated. I am on the cingular network. Thanks

Posted by: maverick22

Best Buy in Oak Cliff, TX has 2 of them!! Gonna try to pick it up, but my fiance is sick, so not sure if I'm gonna get to.

They're free on a 2 year and 79.99 on a one-year. I'll let ya'll know if I go out there and this is true! I hope they're not confused with another phone.

Posted by: crusader33x

so which model are we getting exactly? is it going to have stereo FM radio?

Posted by: .7

I for one would LOVE to see these phones at Best Buy, or even a picture of one with Cingular branding.

Posted by: helpermonkey

Quote:

Originally Posted by .7

I for one would LOVE to see these phones at Best Buy, or even a picture of one with Cingular branding.

I don't know where it would show any branding. I certainly haven't seen one with it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by crusader33x

so which model are we getting exactly? is it going to have stereo FM radio?

What do you mean? If anyone gets a model from Cingular at all it will be the 6126. I didn't see an FM radio function (with a wired headset attached). Maybe I am not looking in the right place? I don't have a stereo headset that works with the connection anyway.

Posted by: maverick22

Quote:

Originally Posted by maverick22

Best Buy in Oak Cliff, TX has 2 of them!! Gonna try to pick it up, but my fiance is sick, so not sure if I'm gonna get to.

They're free on a 2 year and 79.99 on a one-year. I'll let ya'll know if I go out there and this is true! I hope they're not confused with another phone.

FALSE alarm--went up there, waited for the girl to help for like 30 minutes, she finally got to me, and then she was like "Oh, I thought you were talking about a Verizon phone," when I specifically asked her on the phone before I drove up there about the details 2X!

Some of these Best Buy people just kill me

I knew it was too good to be true though. I thought that 79.99 was too cheap. Sorry for the false alarm.

Posted by: Topsales

Quote:

Originally Posted by .7

I for one would LOVE to see these phones at Best Buy, or even a picture of one with Cingular branding.

The Amazon model shows Cingular's branding on the front of it, but it could be just an overlay over the lower part of the front LCD on the frame.

Posted by: Naveen

now this phone is having problems?!? the v3i might be a sucess for cingular then---!

Posted by: crusader33x

in the phonescoop article it mentions that some versions will have radio

Posted by: .7

I did hear from my source that is was indeed canceled but I will wait for a conformation from a 2nd source. I was not given a reason.

Something happened and thats as much as I know.

Posted by: maverick22

Quote:

Originally Posted by .7

I did hear from my source that is was indeed canceled but I will wait for a conformation from a 2nd source. I was not given a reason.

Something happened and thats as much as I know.

Awwwwwwww crap!!

Posted by: daniel501

For what it's worth, there's a prominent multi-page Cingular ad in the "Fashion Rocks" supplement that came with this September's "Wired" magazine. It features several phones, each with their own page, and guess what?, the Nokia 6126 on a page with the band "Blue October".

Maybe this is old news, I don't know. Just a data point.

Posted by: Angelsnitch

Quote:

Originally Posted by maverick22

It seems if/when the 6126 comes out, Best Buy will carry it. Does anyone know if Radio Shack is going to?

From what I have seen (don't shoot me for this but I work for RS) we might get this model AFTER both BB and Cing have had it for a while.

BB won the right to exclusive on this one unfortunately. Course that is IF it ever comes out

Angel

Posted by: CaptShadow

Quote:

Originally Posted by daniel501

For what it's worth, there's a prominent multi-page Cingular ad in the "Fashion Rocks" supplement that came with this September's "Wired" magazine. It features several phones, each with their own page, and guess what?, the Nokia 6126 on a page with the band "Blue October".

Maybe this is old news, I don't know. Just a data point.

This wouldn't be the first or last time that advertising is released ahead of the actual phone. You would think after embarrassing themselves like this before, Cingular would have figured out a way to avoid it. It's a juggling act though, trying to balance advertising with tentative release dates. Ad spaces in certain media are bought well in advance according to these tentative dates and any major delay and/ or cancellation sets Cingular up for a pie in the face.

Posted by: helpermonkey

I don't think it is an embarisment for Cingular at all, maybe Nokia though.

Posted by: DigiPilot

Quote:

Originally Posted by .7

I did hear from my source that is was indeed canceled but I will wait for a conformation from a 2nd source. I was not given a reason.

Something happened and thats as much as I know.

It was cancelled because it was the only possible phone Cingular was tentatively plannning on offering that I would consider having for myself in order to not leave Cingular for USCC. Cingular hates me since I'm still on TDMA, so they killed the 6126 for everybody.

j/k, but it's as plausible as the conspiracy theory that all the US wireless providers are orchestrating a plot to drive Nokia out of the country.

Posted by: Cellwind929

Cingular wants us to shut up and buy another razor. : /

Posted by: ItalianAngel831

but it's as plausible as the conspiracy theory that all the US wireless providers are orchestrating a plot to drive Nokia out of the country.
^^^^^^ hey i wouldn't mind seeing nokia leave after the 6230 all there phones since have been crap mayb we can get somoene else here to sell the phones. one of those japanese sellers.

Posted by: maverick22

Don't know if this means a darn thing or not, but Cingy lists the 6126 on their 'mobile email' page. This just might not be frequently updated though:

http://www.cingular.com/media/mobile_email?&dsessionid=GyGwGvBYVGlvfJR46Qnc4hRwySTlzM6zJ7Ltrbf vW20SHQDzvsT6!252750350!1156089584082

Posted by: daftgem

Ive had one in my hand, Cingular branded and all. This was in early July. However I don't think that means anything as for the actual release date.

Posted by: macizcool

Quote:

Originally Posted by helpermonkey

I don't think it is an embarisment for Cingular at all, maybe Nokia though.

No, it's definitely an embarrassment for Cingular. The phone has already been released for a while now from Nokia (as the 6131) with no problems. The phone went to Cingular so that they could put their own firmware on it and test it. Obviously, they weren't able to get their crappy firmware to work well with the phone. So, instead of just giving up and being satisfied with only the Cingular logo on the front, they canned the phone all together... After telling Amazon and Best Buy that it was coming (plus their own advertising).

Posted by: bluesman78

Wait, I don't get it, has the phone been canned then??

Posted by: sharksfan7

Hi Folks,

Forgive my ignorance, but I'm a bit confused. If the 6126 was cancelled by Cingular, is there a chance Nokia will still release an unlocked/unbranded version of it? Or was it cancelled completely by Nokia?

Posted by: Topsales

IMO, if no carrier picks up the phone than there is no chance of it being released by Nokia. The 6126 is a region specific model, not like the 6131, so it would not make business sense to release a model to sell a few thousand units. A carrier can generate 10s of thousands of sales with just in store POP, where Nokia would have to spend mega bucks to advertise the unit.

They may sell the few units they have in inventory to places like LetsTalk and Best Buy just to get rid of the stock, but I doubt you will see widespread sales of the units if a carrier doesn't pick it up.

We are all assuming that the unit has been cancelled, but until it is confirmed we can hold up hope.

Posted by: I have a phone

Quote:

Originally Posted by macizcool

No, it's definitely an embarrassment for Cingular. The phone went to Cingular so that they could put their own firmware on it and test it. Obviously, they weren't able to get their crappy firmware to work well with the phone.

it should be an embarassment for Nokia, they failed

Posted by: shoman94

Quote:

Originally Posted by I have a phone

it should be an embarassment for Nokia, they failed

The 6131 is hands down better than any flip Cingular currently has. If the 6126 is different we won't know if it isn't released. Definitely not an embarrassment for Nokia. It's too bad these companies consistent with releasing phones.

Posted by: bluesman78

I have looked back at the recent posts in the thread and I have no idea why people think the phone has been canceled... Is this just an insude rumor?

Posted by: .7

Quote:

Originally Posted by bluesman78

I have looked back at the recent posts in the thread and I have no idea why people think the phone has been canceled... Is this just an insude rumor?

Yes its inside info. Time will tell but my sources haven't been wrong yet.

I dont get the most bleeding up to date info all the time but when I do get it its legit.

Posted by: shoman94

So far it is rumored but .7 is usually pretty accurate.

Posted by: blumoto

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So what about the ones best buy has r they gonna have to send them back or what?

Posted by: .7

Quote:

Originally Posted by blumoto

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So what about the ones best buy has r they gonna have to send them back or what?

already posted as a false alarm

http://www.howardforums.com/showpos...7&postcount=514

Quote:

Originally Posted by maverick22

I knew it was too good to be true though. I thought that 79.99 was too cheap. Sorry for the false alarm.

Posted by: I have a phone

Quote:

Originally Posted by shoman94

Definitely not an embarrassment for Nokia..

it is when the biggest operator in North America isn't carrying it

Posted by: CaptShadow

Quote:

Originally Posted by I have a phone

it should be an embarassment for Nokia, they failed

It doesn't matter who threw the pie (Nokia in this case), it's still on Cingular's face. They are the ones who have to face the customer and give this excuse for the phone's demise. The average customer doesn't understand the testing/approval phase. All they know is they saw the phone advertised and they want it.

Posted by: macizcool

Quote:

Originally Posted by I have a phone

it is when the biggest operator in North America isn't carrying it

IHAP, you should know that a phone goes to Cingular, working perfectly fine, and then Cingular puts all of their crap on it and test it. So I still don't see how it is an embarrassment towards Nokia.

Posted by: I have a phone

Quote:

Originally Posted by macizcool

and then Cingular puts all of their crap on it and test it.

problem here is, sw had nothing to do with it.

y'all can continue to grouse about it, I'll just sit here and read

Posted by: .7

Quote:

Originally Posted by macizcool

IHAP, you should know that a phone goes to Cingular, working perfectly fine, and then Cingular puts all of their crap on it and test it. So I still don't see how it is an embarrassment towards Nokia.

While I dont know how the system works, I dont think Cingular is interested in the phone failing. Sure, they might have some requirements as to how phones work with their MediaNet DL's, MMS, and how they work with the towers, ect but I dont think its their goal to ruin it. I mean, Samsung, Pantech, LG, Sonyericsson as of late have realeased new models, so its not like it cant be done and done the way Cingular wants it done. The way I see it, with what little I know, if those vendors can figure it out, why cant Nokia?

Ive been told from numerous sources that the phone failed some critical final tests...and failed them pretty bad. What these tests are, or if anything is being done to correct the issues I have no information. What I just posted is literally the extent of what I know.

Posted by: bsannich2

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptShadow

the only thing about that is that the vast majority of people just do not care. it's too bad that a larger number of cingular customers aren't like many of us, and are really excited about this phone. maybe that way they would try a little harder to get phones such as the 6126 to market. i just think that the number of actual phone enthusiasts that give a damn make up such a tiny, tiny percentage of their customer base, cingular just doesnt try hard to please us.

Posted by: vorpalwombat

Quote:

Originally Posted by bsannich2

not just don't care, but don't *know* in the first place - at *best* we're talking a few advertisements, maybe paid attention to by "normal" people (read: non-hofo-ers) - if you don't know a phone is supposed to be coming in the first place, you can't be dissappointed when it doesn't show up

Posted by: helpermonkey

Quote:

Originally Posted by shoman94

Yah, well I would say that it is not. It depends on your criteria. For performance I would say it is not going to be as good as a phone like the V3. Nokia has made several stinkers lately. As .7 said earlier, if every other phone maker has been able to get their phones released, and not even released flawlessly mind you, why the heck can't Nokia? They are the only one with the problem it seems....

I wish everyone crying could just buy one from Cingular and that would be that. I bet a bunch of people would be back on hear talking smack about what a crap phone Cingular let pass testing though. You can't win in a situation like this.

Quote:

Originally Posted by macizcool

IHAP, you should know that a phone goes to Cingular, working perfectly fine, and then Cingular puts all of their crap on it and test it. So I still don't see how it is an embarrassment towards Nokia.

Well macizcool, apparently you don't know, and I think IHAP might agree that he doesn't know what you are saying either. You have already drawn you conclusions, probably from much real world forum post reading. The vendor has to meet the requirements of Cingular, if they can not, it seems to be their fault. It isn't as if the requirements change from month to month. How many phones have you tested pre and post Cingular software? I know it is "common knowledge" around here that it is always Cingular, and of course all the vendors make only the highest quality gear... what crap. Both sides are responsible at the least, I would say the vendor is by far more responsible for the product they are selling, carrier firmware or not.

Posted by: shoman94

Quote:

Originally Posted by helpermonkey

I've owned the v3 and still do. Yes it is a very good performing phone and RF performance on the 6131 is as good as the v3....software on the phone though out shines the v3 by a mile.

Quote:

Quote:
Originally Posted by I have a phone
it is when the biggest operator in North America isn't carrying it

Lots of phones are not carried by a provider..... That makes them all screw ups.... make no sense.

Posted by: Topsales

Quote:

I wish everyone crying could just buy one from Cingular and that would be that. I bet a bunch of people would be back on hear talking smack about what a crap phone Cingular let pass testing though. You can't win in a situation like this.

I agree with that. Ultimately, it is Cingular that would have to deal with any issues, so if it fails their test, than so be it. I would not want to sell an item that had known problems.

I do wish the vendors would support phones purchased overseas, at least for warranty. Oh well, I can dream can't I?

Posted by: inurb

looks like I'm buying a 6131 on ebay.

Posted by: anubis9278

if anybody has a 6131, try something for me...this may ruin your phone though. the cover over the pop port, pull it back and hold it there for ten seconds. when finished does it fit back in the phone correctly, mine didn't.

Posted by: Carini

Quote:

Originally Posted by anubis9278

if anybody has a 6131, try something for me...this may ruin your phone though. the cover over the pop port, pull it back and hold it there for ten seconds. when finished does it fit back in the phone correctly, mine didn't.

uh yeah so what? They released the V220 that had a crummy rubber cover for the data port.
Hey, they even released that phone

Posted by: anubis9278

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carini

uh yeah so what? They released the V220 that had a crummy rubber cover for the data port.
Hey, they even released that phone

i was actually being serious.

my cover didnt fit back in. now i have to replace it. i wanted to know if it was just mine or cheap plastic. i could give a _ _ _ _ about a V220. i haven't found a battery cover yet under $24.00.

Posted by: I have a phone

I've had that cover extended for much longer than 10s and just shoved it back into the opening

Posted by: anubis9278

then its just mine. darn thing keeps popping out and wont stay in. only used a data cable in it, oh well, what $25 bucks for a replacement door. i hate when i mess mine phones up.

thanks!!

Posted by: daniel501

Is it a given that Cingular's true reason for canning the 6126 (if it's true) is that it couldn't pass their tests?

What if Cingy ultimately decided that it would cannibalize sales of, say, a more profitable V3i Razr? Perhaps they want the V3i life cycle to run it's course before they bring out a thin Nokia flip with better features? Maybe it's the bean counters and not the engineers that canned the 6126?

Posted by: Carini

"it should be an embarassment for Nokia, they failed"
and
"problem here is, sw had nothing to do with it."

C'mon IHAP, throw us a bone here...
What did Nokia fail? What is the problem if s/w had nothing to do with it?

Posted by: I have a phone

Quote:

Originally Posted by anubis9278

then its just mine. darn thing keeps popping out and wont stay in. only used a data cable in it, oh well, what $25 bucks for a replacement door. i hate when i mess mine phones up.

thanks!!

warm it up a little to make it pliable then stick it back in

Posted by: helpermonkey

Quote:

Originally Posted by shoman94

I've owned the v3 and still do. Yes it is a very good performing phone and RF performance on the 6131 is as good as the v3....software on the phone though out shines the v3 by a mile.

Coverage is not all performance is, call reliability, like drops is important too. As is other things like battery life... Yes Motorola software / interface sucks. It seems reliable if ugly though.

Posted by: helpermonkey

Quote:

Originally Posted by daniel501

Is it a given that Cingular's true reason for canning the 6126 (if it's true) is that it couldn't pass their tests?

What if Cingy ultimately decided that it would cannibalize sales of, say, a more profitable V3i Razr? Perhaps they want the V3i life cycle to run it's course before they bring out a thin Nokia flip with better features? Maybe it's the bean counters and not the engineers that canned the 6126?

I would say that is not likely given this phones testing track record.

I doubt IHAP is willing to air Nokia's dirty laundry in this forum. I can't blame him.

Posted by: damba98

Quote:

Originally Posted by shoman94

I've owned the v3 and still do. Yes it is a very good performing phone and RF performance on the 6131 is as good as the v3....software on the phone though out shines the v3 by a mile.

Not to mention the somewhat tired UI of the Moto v3. IMO that's one part Nokia doesn't have to work too hard to beat it by a country mile. But to each his own, I suppose.

Quote:

Lots of phones are not carried by a provider..... That makes them all screw ups.... make no sense.

I was thinking the same thing. Not sure about it being an issue with Nokia per se either.

A friend of mine might be able to shed some more light on the testing process of Mobile phones, as he does it personally for one of the larger manufacturers. I would interested in hearing more about what he has to say on who'd more at fault. My gut feling is the carrier but maybe there is some merit to suggestions that Nokia may be rushing this particular model(?) Granted, it's not the 6126 but I did however really like the 6131 I saw in person...

best,
Pedro

Posted by: ejb5oh

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carini

uh yeah so what? They released the V220 that had a crummy rubber cover for the data port.
Hey, they even released that phone

I second this opinion. What kind of question was that?

Posted by: bluesman78

Man, i'm thinking of abandoning this phone all around given the negative hype...

Thinking about the Samsung Slider phone, any opinions??

Posted by: macizcool

Quote:

Originally Posted by helpermonkey

Well, I must admit that I don't know anything hardcore, but I am concluding this based on the fact that the 6131 (which is the same phone) seems to be working fine. So I don't see how Nokia could send the 6126 to Cingular with all of these supposed "non-firmware" problems.

IHAP, can you share with us the serious hardware problems this phone is having? I would be interested to know.

Also, wasn't it the v635 that didn't successfully ship from Cingular because it failed testing? Yet, the unbranded one worked fine? Oh, and lets not forget the 6230.... Piece of crap and canned by Cingular. Yet, by doing an unbranded flash makes the phone completely different. So how can you say that Cingular doesn't mess up phones?

Posted by: Soopafly

Quote:

Originally Posted by daniel501

Nope, it didn't pass testing, although it almost got the clear...

The v3i is a totally different price range and the Moto relationship is not any better than the Nokia right now. The 6126 was going to be our heavily advertised phone for this quarter along with a decent marketing campaign for it but the Pantech has now taken its place.

If I had to bet I would say its not coming. Now if the v3i does not come out, it would likely be a business decision for a campaign toward a newer HSDPA version which we could see by year end.

Posted by: shoman94

Quote:

Originally Posted by helpermonkey

Coverage is not all performance is, call reliability, like drops is important too. As is other things like battery life... Yes Motorola software / interface sucks. It seems reliable if ugly though.

So what are you saying....

I have nothing to complain about with the above except for better battery life....but then again...mine stays up for almost 2 days now.....my Razr went for almost 3 days...not much better....

I charge it every night....no biggie for me. They could easily make a better battery. Why can't you share exactly why is was back doored.

Posted by: daniel501

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soopafly

Nope, it didn't pass testing, although it almost got the clear...

The v3i is a totally different price range and ...

Is it though? I mean, it ought to be, but word on the street (this board) was that the V3i would be around $199 with a 2 year contract. And that's what we've been hearing about the 6126 as well. Eyeballing the street prices for these phones unlocked, the 6126 (6131) is around $250 and the V3i about $225.

Posted by: maverick22

Cingy obviously hasn't updated amazon with the info. that the phone has been canceled, if that's in fact true.

Amazon applied their newest rebate to the 6126 today, making the phone -$19.99 after rebates!! (It's always a good deal when you get paid to buy a cell phone, isn't it?!) That is an awesome deal...wish this phone would actually become available, especially at that price.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...1698351?ie=UTF8

Posted by: dlsnyder

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soopafly

That's what I was thinking. Verizon (and even Sprint) have beaten Cingular to the punch on 3G service. It has taken the 6126 and V3i so long to come out of testing, and they do so little to add to ARPU, that Cingular made a business decision to pass them over in favor of 3G models. This really makes sense if you think about their push to find/retain "profitable" customers. Phones that make best use of their new or upcoming 3G services fit better with their business plan.

Look how fast they brought out the ZX20, which is really no better feature wise than the 6126 - except it has HSDPA.

Posted by: bobolito

I am willing to speculate it was cancelled due to durability issues (black soft layer wearing off, screen cover), and battery life. Plus, when a phone spends so much time in testing, it simply misses the opportunity window to market and becomes obsolete.

But still, customers get what they want, so I think I'll just buy the unbranded version somewhere.

Posted by: shoman94

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bobolito

I am willing to speculate it was cancelled due to durability issues (black soft layer wearing off, screen cover), and battery life. Plus, when a phone spends so much time in testing, it simply misses the opportunity window to market and becomes obsolete.

But still, customers get what they want, so I think I'll just buy the unbranded version somewhere.

So far my only issue with the housing is with the chrome ring around the keypad. All else is mint. I blame cingular for the vmi not working. Otherwise the best phone I've owned so far. I kinda like others not having it. People are always checking it out.

Posted by: awj223

Quote:

Originally Posted by shoman94

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So far my only issue with the housing is with the chrome ring around the keypad. All else is mint. I blame cingular for the vmi not working. Otherwise the best phone I've owned so far. I kinda like others not having it. People are always checking it out.

Maybe the 6126 was delayed/cancelled because the VMI wouldn't work?

Posted by: bobolito

I would sell it on Ebay and get a 6126. I can't have that VMI not working.

Posted by: awj223

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobolito

I would sell it on Ebay and get a 6126. I can't have that VMI not working.

Bobolito: Do you have a reason to believe that the VMI on the 6126 works properly, unlike the 6131?

Posted by: shoman94

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Seams the 3g sim has a working vmi but i'm still using an att sim.

Posted by: shoman94

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bobolito

I would sell it on Ebay and get a 6126. I can't have that VMI not working.

I get used to checking it every so often now. No one knows he the vmi works find with my sim and 6126

Posted by: bobolito

Quote:

Originally Posted by awj223

Bobolito: Do you have a reason to believe that the VMI on the 6126 works properly, unlike the 6131?

No, it is purely speculation. The VMI issue is purely a software incompatibility issue. The 6126 software will probably have a different firmware than the 6131 even though they may look exactly the same. Because of this, there's a chance there may not be a VMI issue on Cingular. But then again, the VMI issue does not affect everyone using the 6131 on Cingular. So if I were to get a 6131, there's always the chance I may never have a problem with the VMI just like I never had an issue with the Motorola V635.

Posted by: Topsales

According to a tread in Phonescoop the 6126 has been pulled from Cingular's dealers list.

Posted by: .7

One of my sources has confirmed that the phone is offically been pulled from Cingular's lineup and testers have been told to stop testing and send back their devices. The issue Ive been told is HADWARE related, not software/firmware as previously speculated. The phone is dead issue and it will not be released by Cingular.

I dont know specifcs and I dont know anything more than what I just posted.

Sorry to deliver the bad news.

Posted by: Eaton

Quote:

Originally Posted by .7

One of my sources has confirmed that the phone is offically been pulled from Cingular's lineup and testers have been told to stop testing and send back their devices. The issue Ive been told is HADWARE related, not software/firmware as previously speculated. The phone is dead issue and it will not be released by Cingular.

I dont know specifcs and I dont know anything more than what I just posted.

Sorry to deliver the bad news.

That is terrible. Does anyone know what the exact issues were/are relating to the hardware? I am thinking about buying a 6131 on ebay, but I don't want to get one if there are known hardware issues. Anyone?

Posted by: backno37

If this is true (which I assume it is) then what alternatives from nokia and/or other manufacturers are coming to Cingular in the near future?

Posted by: RogerPodacter

if it really is a HW issue, maybe it has something to do with the 850 band reciever/transmitter. If the 6131 is being released in other 900/1900 only countries, and it suddenly is not released in an 850/1900 country, what other discrepency could there be?

Posted by: boston_errol

Quote:

Originally Posted by RogerPodacter

if it really is a HW issue, maybe it has something to do with the 850 band reciever/transmitter. If the 6131 is being released in other 900/1900 only countries, and it suddenly is not released in an 850/1900 country, what other discrepency could there be?

probably poor build quality with materials peeling off, like others have suggested.

Posted by: Rcadden

This really annoys the piss out of me, both at Cingular AND at Nokia.

@ Nokia, for not giving the carrier a better product

@ Cingular, for not looking towards the myriad other acceptable *recent* Nokias, such as 6270, 6131 (apparently doesn't have the same issues) to get Nokias back on the shelf.

Posted by: RogerPodacter

Quote:

Originally Posted by boston_errol

probably poor build quality with materials peeling off, like others have suggested.

i was thinking that it was related to that popping noise, not the paint wear. that seems insignificant, but maybe not.

Posted by: hitechy

I am not shocked its canceled. One out of of every 3 Cingular phones seem to get canceled. I mean at one point we were actually going to get good phones. I remember a list of phones that were supposed to come out last January which included the Samsung P857 and Nokia N80. Both canceled. Once again another example of horrible communication between Cingular/manufacturer. They must be wasting a lot of money on preparing phones for release that get canceled.

Posted by: blumoto

Wirelessly posted (LG-CU500 Obigo/WAP2.0 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 UP.Link/6.3.0.0.0)

The 6131 is a great phone my sis n law has had it for about a week now and my wife loved i just bought her one from amazon the build quality is superb the rf was top notch and os was smooth(gotta love the s40) so i am led to believe it is all cing why is it that nokia can get phones out the door in every other country but here i can see cing having nothing but ms smart phones and razrs and crappy made sam and lgs

Posted by: b0stonirishguy

I've had a 6131 since May, with really no issues (VMI, build quality, etc.). The "popping or clicking" does occur, but only while the phone is ringing before the call is answered. It's a shame that Nokia couldn't get it right.

Posted by: bella172

Okay I just noticed something. The Nokia N80 and the Nokia 6126 were both cancelled, right? Okay they are BOTH quadband phones!!! I see a problem, folks. I think what a Cingular rep told me 6 mths ago was true. Cingular gets paid a bucket load of money from Motorola to sell THEIR quadband phones. In other words, no competition!! If Cingular doesn't have a quadband Nokia phone to sell to a customer, what is the customer going to buy? MOTOROLA!!! I feel robbed and shafted!! It's not a hardware problem, it's greed, money and office politics!! I used to work for AT&T Wireless before it was acquired by the evil empire and let me tell you. These two phones would have been released and would have worked great!!! I HATE CINGULAR!! Don't listen to the lies about software, hardware issues. It's a money issue. Cingular gets paid by Motorola to only carry THEIR quadband phones. I'm buying a 6131, screw Cingular. I've had it with them!!

Posted by: stepchild

Isn't the LG CU500 quadband?

Posted by: CeluGeek

Cingular has other non-Motorola quad-band phones. The 2125 and 8125 are both quad band, and so is the iPAQ 6515. If I'm not mistaken the SonyEricsson Z520 and/or the Z525 are also quad-band.

Posted by: vitin

Quote:

Originally Posted by bella172

Okay I just noticed something. The Nokia N80 and the Nokia 6126 were both cancelled, right? Okay they are BOTH quadband phones!!! I see a problem, folks. I think what a Cingular rep told me 6 mths ago was true. Cingular gets paid a bucket load of money from Motorola to sell THEIR quadband phones. In other words, no competition!! If Cingular doesn't have a quadband Nokia phone to sell to a customer, what is the customer going to buy? MOTOROLA!!! I feel robbed and shafted!! It's not a hardware problem, it's greed, money and office politics!! I used to work for AT&T Wireless before it was acquired by the evil empire and let me tell you. These two phones would have been released and would have worked great!!! I HATE CINGULAR!! Don't listen to the lies about software, hardware issues. It's a money issue. Cingular gets paid by Motorola to only carry THEIR quadband phones. I'm buying a 6131, screw Cingular. I've had it with them!!

i hate motocrap

Posted by: b0stonirishguy

Cingular's phones are only going to use 850 and 1900 anyway in NA. It doesn't really matter if it's quadband. The other bands only come in handy when travelling.

Posted by: awj223

Quote:

Originally Posted by bostonirishguy

Cingular's phones are only going to use 850 and 1900 anyway in NA. It doesn't really matter if it's quadband. The other bands only come in handy when travelling.

Yeah, but Cingular does have worldwide