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Nokia 6126 (RELEASED)
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Posted by: helpermonkey

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Originally Posted by dlsnyder

Look how fast they brought out the ZX20, which is really no better feature wise than the 6126 - except it has HSDPA.

The ZX-20 was not quick to market, where did you get that idea? I just never saw any threads on hear about it until it was close to passing testing. That doesn't mean it passed really quickly though.

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Originally Posted by hitechy

I am not shocked its canceled. One out of of every 3 Cingular phones seem to get canceled. I mean at one point we were actually going to get good phones. I remember a list of phones that were supposed to come out last January which included the Samsung P857 and Nokia N80. Both canceled. Once again another example of horrible communication between Cingular/manufacturer. They must be wasting a lot of money on preparing phones for release that get canceled.

I can only think of two phones that have been canceled this year that have made it to field testing (both Nokia). One out of three is ridiculous.

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Originally Posted by bella172

Okay I just noticed something. The Nokia N80 and the Nokia 6126 were both cancelled, right? Okay they are BOTH quadband phones!!! I see a problem, folks. I think what a Cingular rep told me 6 mths ago was true. Cingular gets paid a bucket load of money from Motorola to sell THEIR quadband phones. In other words, no competition!! If Cingular doesn't have a quadband Nokia phone to sell to a customer, what is the customer going to buy? MOTOROLA!!! I feel robbed and shafted!! It's not a hardware problem, it's greed, money and office politics!! I used to work for AT&T Wireless before it was acquired by the evil empire and let me tell you. These two phones would have been released and would have worked great!!! I HATE CINGULAR!! Don't listen to the lies about software, hardware issues. It's a money issue. Cingular gets paid by Motorola to only carry THEIR quadband phones. I'm buying a 6131, screw Cingular. I've had it with them!!

Wow! That is just plain crazy. That is a serious allegation based on the fact that a phone got cancelled. Please.

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Originally Posted by blumoto

The 6131 is a great phone my sis n law has had it for about a week now and my wife loved i just bought her one from amazon the build quality is superb the rf was top notch and os was smooth(gotta love the s40) so i am led to believe it is all cing why is it that nokia can get phones out the door in every other country but here i can see cing having nothing but ms smart phones and razrs and crappy made sam and lgs

So it is great based on a week's experience? Nice reference. Yah I got this great phone two minutes ago too, it hasn't had any problems since I got it either. Sorry to be so sarcastic, but you should have realized yourself that what you posted isn't that valuable as far as performance goes. Phones are tested for months at least before being released. Nothing that isn't a huge problem should show up in testing right away.

Posted by: Eaton

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Originally Posted by alevin

Those on Cingular who have the VMI problems have switched their sims to the 64k 3g sim and it has seemed to solve the problem.

I am in the same boat. Is there anyone out there who is using the 6131 with their old ATT blue SIM? I have the ATT blue SIM and want to get the N6131, but won't if I have any voicemail problems, etc. Please let me know.

Also - do Cingular blue folks have the popping sounds too?

Posted by: hitechy

I said it seems like one out of three phones get canceled. I didn't mean in field testing though, I mean phones they planed on carrying like the P857, N80, and Nokia 6282. Obviously not 1 out of every 3, but more than any other carrier for sure.

Posted by: Rcadden

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Originally Posted by hitechy

I said it seems like one out of three phones get canceled. I didn't mean in field testing though, I mean phones they planed on carrying like the P857, N80, and Nokia 6282. Obviously not 1 out of every 3, but more than any other carrier for sure.

Hate to do this but the N80, afaik, was never intended by Cingular to be carried. Nokia branded a few units to show off, but as far as I have ever heard, Cingular was NEVER considering it. Heck, even some of the branded ones are UTMS 2100, I've seen it myself.

Posted by: I have a phone

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Originally Posted by shoman94

Wirelessly posted (Nokia 6131: Opera/8.01 (J2ME/MIDP; Opera Mini/2.0.4509/1316; en; U; ssr))

I blame cingular for the vmi not working

why is that? Is it there fault that your phone doesn't meet their requirements for the icon trigger?

Posted by: I have a phone

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Originally Posted by hitechy

I mean phones they planed on carrying like the P857, N80, and Nokia 6282.

check that boss. Only the 6282 was ever under serious consideration

Posted by: bigmike20

I was ready for this phone for a while,been a Nokia fan for years but decided to jump boat.Got the CU500 and couldn't be more happy.So disappointed of Cingular.

Posted by: SVphone

That's a real bummer. I wonder what'll be next. I really like the Nokia UI and would rather not have to go to Moto or LG.

Posted by: blumoto

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Originally Posted by helpermonkey

The ZX-20 was not quick to market, where did you get that idea? I just never saw any threads on hear about it until it was close to passing testing. That doesn't mean it passed really quickly though.

I can only think of two phones that have been canceled this year that have made it to field testing (both Nokia). One out of three is ridiculous.

Wow! That is just plain crazy. That is a serious allegation based on the fact that a phone got cancelled. Please.

So it is great based on a week's experience? Nice reference. Yah I got this great phone two minutes ago too, it hasn't had any problems since I got it either. Sorry to be so sarcastic, but you should have realized yourself that what you posted isn't that valuable as far as performance goes. Phones are tested for months at least before being released. Nothing that isn't a huge problem should show up in testing right away.

actually I used one for about a month at the end of may and it was a great preformer in all areas, the little crack would come through the speaker on an incoming call but would be gone by the third ring or so, its just that I prefer a smart phone, so I ended up sending it to my cousin in italia and she loves it, ironically my wife hated it at the time and was content with her 6102, but after seeing it again decided she had to have it(go figure). I should have included this before but was posting from my mobile and was rushing, it still does nothing for the fact that nokia seems to get phones 3g and gsm mobiles out all over the world but when cing. gets involved something gets screwed up, more than likely in my opinion it has more to do with politics, I remember reading somewhere that cings relationship with nokia and moto was at a all time low, why? not sure, but I bet it has to do with them getting handsets out on time and although I think that my cu500 is a good phone it is loaded with bugs and the build quality is lacking especially the flip hinge, but that seemed to get released.

Posted by: Bostongarden

Oh well...back to the drawing board for something that will take the place of my dearly departed 6230.
6126, wish I would have had the chance to get to know you.

My conspiracy theory: Cingular must have known that people wanted this phone, so, they cancelled it.
Crazy way to make business decisions!

Posted by: Rcadden

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Originally Posted by blumoto

it still does nothing for the fact that nokia seems to get phones 3g and gsm mobiles out all over the world but when cing. gets involved something gets screwed up,

I have to agree with this. let's not forget Nokia was the first manufacturer in the world (I believe) with a 3g phone to market (6630) 3G being defined as UMTS, of course.

I think Nokia does have some fault (not including 850 UMTS, for instance) but I think the majority of these non-3G phones has to do with Cingular being a PITA.

Posted by: DaveTreo300600

i got my Nokia 6270 about 6 mos ago and love it it is a great example of series 40 version 3 - the VMI does NOT work but I still love the phone

Posted by: shoman94

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Originally Posted by I have a phone

why is that? Is it there fault that your phone doesn't meet their requirements for the icon trigger?

Funny it works using the Cingular 3g SIM and it works fine using Unicel and Tmobile.

More like a provider issue...

Posted by: bobolito

Suncom is supposed to carry the 6126. Rogers/Fido is also testing the phone. So it is not the end of the world if Cingular doesn't carry it. We will see it on Ebay either branded by another carrier or unbranded.

Posted by: shoman94

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Originally Posted by Eaton

Yes...ATT blue sim...no vmi icon.

I get popping once in a while but I think its only in a 1900/850 mixed area. It doesn't happen in a 1900 only areas and 850 only areas.
I'd rather have the popping once in a while to the motorola's amr-hr word outs.

Posted by: shoman94

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Originally Posted by bobolito

Suncom is supposed to carry the 6126. Rogers/Fido is also testing the phone. So it is not the end of the world if Cingular doesn't carry it. We will see it on Ebay either branded by another carrier or unbranded.

I really don't care if they carry it or not.... I just hate the bs surrounding it. I own the phone and put it through its paces. No phone is perfect but this one is alot closer than many others released by Cingular.

Posted by: bobolito

I have to agree with that. Cingular has released much worse phones than the V635, yet it never made it.

Posted by: shoman94

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Originally Posted by bobolito

I have to agree with that. Cingular has released much worse phones than the V635, yet it never made it.

Exactly... instead of just not carrying it...they go as far as listing it on rebate sheets and stuff..... word getting out there for the anticipation...then boom...they blame it one something dumb so they don't look bad.

Posted by: I have a phone

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Originally Posted by shoman94

Funny it works using the Cingular 3g SIM and it works fine using Unicel and Tmobile.

More like a provider issue...

your ancient blue SIM does not have the ability to accept the triggers used by Cingular. Both Unicel and TMo use an older approach that (I think) is a limitation of their network vendor's equipment.

but then again, why should they support it if you're not using an approved mobile?

Posted by: I have a phone

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Originally Posted by shoman94

they blame it one something dumb so they don't look bad.

what exactly was it blamed on? That still remains to be seen here

Posted by: ace587

cingular needs to get its act right, its unfair for us nokia lovers. But i dont like cingular branded phones anyway, the 6131 still owns the 6126, since i use the FM a lot

Posted by: Ihavenosignal

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Originally Posted by ace587

cingular needs to get its act right, its unfair for us nokia lovers. But i dont like cingular branded phones anyway, the 6131 still owns the 6126, since i use the FM a lot

yeah man!! that phone OWNS that other phone!!

/end sarcasm

I love seeing nerds talk like that lol

Posted by: ace587

i love sarcastic people

Posted by: shoman94

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Originally Posted by I have a phone

Unicel I'm sure is not using older equipment since Its new within the last year or so.

Unapproved mobile.... I can't argue that...I'm not sure how other Nokia's act with my ancient blue sim. Something as easy as a vmi not working is just dumb.

Posted by: shoman94

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Originally Posted by I have a phone

what exactly was it blamed on? That still remains to be seen here

Going by the speculation of a hardware problem which a few have been mentioned is what I'm basing that on. You still haven't provided anyone with any real info.....

Then again..... I guess I've gotten what I expected....

Posted by: beatniks3

maybe something with cingulars firmware?

the 6131 is taking some knocks in this thread and the other long thread up in the nokia section but if you really read into these threads a fair number of people, myself included, are very happy with the 6131.

Posted by: Eaton

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Originally Posted by shoman94

So my guess is that they had trouble with the 850 band which caused the popping sound.

ALSO - so I understand, if I purchased the 6131 and used my ATTWS blue SIM and if someone called and left a voicemail, I would not have the little indicator on the phone, I would have to randomly check to see if I had a voicemail message - correct?

Posted by: Topsales

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Originally Posted by Eaton

It is a regional issue. The VMI may or may not work with the blue SIM.

Posted by: Eaton

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Originally Posted by alevin

It is a regional issue. The VMI may or may not work with the blue SIM.

What about the DC area, Philly and surrounding burbs and the general mid-atlantic region?

Posted by: Topsales

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Originally Posted by Eaton

What about the DC area, Philly and surrounding burbs and the general mid-atlantic region?

I don't know, since I don't live there. You may want to ask the question about VMI in your area in the Nokia 6126/6131/6133 thread.

Posted by: I have a phone

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Originally Posted by shoman94

Unicel I'm sure is not using older equipment since Its new within the last year or so.

let's not confuse things more here. I said they are using an older approach, not equipment - big difference.

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Originally Posted by shoman94

Unapproved mobile.... I can't argue that...I'm not sure how other Nokia's act with my ancient blue sim. Something as easy as a vmi not working is just dumb.

What's dumb is that the mobile vendor could not make their "unbranded" sw work properly with all infrastructures. Makes one wonder why certain operators brand the devices with specific feature requests

Posted by: shoman94

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Originally Posted by I have a phone

let's not confuse things more here. I said they are using an older approach, not equipment - big difference.

Ok... an older approach that actually works.....

What's dumb is that the mobile vendor could not make their "unbranded" sw work properly with all infrastructures. Makes one wonder why certain operators brand the devices with specific feature requests

I have no knowledge is this....it's out of my league.

Posted by: sharksfan7

i just did a search on amazon for the 6126 and it no longer shows up. the page was there as of this afternoon, stating "usually ships in 1 to 2 weeks". i guess one can take that as confirmation that it was, in fact cancelled. of course they do still offer the 6131. has anyone ordered one of these through amazon? are they selling the european or asian version, or both?

Posted by: barrister68

the firend that ordered on amazon called and they said it had been sent to the warehouse and that he could not cancel. we will see.

for a cancelled phone nokia sure is advertising. a Wired magazine insert had a full page ad for the 6126 and cingular.

Posted by: ace587

at least we got ebay and other gsm importers who have the 6131

Posted by: bodeh6

Nokia has had some bad luck in North America in the last year or so. The N80, 6282, and 6126 all cancelled. All they have been releasing is low end phones like the 6102, 6102i, 6030, 6060, etc.

Sony Ericsson for life baby.

Posted by: ace587

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Originally Posted by bodeh6

Nokia has had some bad luck in North America in the last year or so. The N80, 6282, and 6126 all cancelled. All they have been releasing is low end phones like the 6102, 6102i, 6030, 6060, etc.

Sony Ericsson for life baby.

6282 cancelled too, and N80 too??? oh the horror... no 3G nokias for US for a while

WTH is wrong with cingular, stop receiving bribes from moto!!

Posted by: I have a phone

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Originally Posted by ace587

6282 cancelled too, and N80 too??? oh the horror... no 3G nokias for US for a while

WTH is wrong with cingular, stop receiving bribes from moto!!

get up to speed before posting crap like "stop receiving bribes from moto"

Posted by: ace587

sorry, got a little bit over there, i guess cingular and nokia have some differences that need to be worked out

Posted by: what_up

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Originally Posted by ace587

6282 cancelled too, and N80 too??? oh the horror... no 3G nokias for US for a while

WTH is wrong with cingular, stop receiving bribes from moto!!

Didn't they cancel V635 from Moto? Haven't they been taking forever to release V3i? It's just their testing standards. Maybe, these phones did not meet their standards.

Posted by: DigiPilot

Phones from most major manufacturers meet technical standards just fine, or else the FCC would never approve them. Also the engineers from Nokia, Moto, Samsung, et al, are not dummies. After researching some disturbing trends in US wireless phone carriers for the past half-year or so, I highly suspect the biggest reasons why US carriers, (all of them are guilty), fail to allow certain new phones on their network in recent times is almost always tied to either things like issues for customer support (e.g. the phone is too complicated and the average joe sixpack idiot customer will have problems operating the thing and it is perceived to be an source of endless support calls) or the phone flat outright has advanced features that the carrier does not wish for its customers to have unless they can figure out some way of creating a revenue stream for each and every use of those advanced features in a pay-per-use manner, or else cripple them out of the phone.

Posted by: Topsales

Now that the 6126 is officially dead to Cingular, can anyone disclose the REAL reason it failed?

Posted by: bobolito

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Originally Posted by DigiPilot

..... I highly suspect the biggest reasons why US carriers, (all of them are guilty), fail to allow certain new phones on their network in recent times is almost always tied to either things like issues for customer support (e.g. the phone is too complicated and the average joe sixpack idiot customer will have problems operating the thing and it is perceived to be an source of endless support calls)...

I'm not sure I follow you. They wouldn't have PDAs and smartphones if that were the case. The 6131 is easier to use that any Motorola according to everyone that has used it. The 6126 should be no different.

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..... or the phone flat outright has advanced features that the carrier does not wish for its customers to have unless they can figure out some way of creating a revenue stream for each and every use of those advanced features in a pay-per-use manner, or else cripple them out of the phone.

Anything can be blocked out from a phone. It's just software.

Posted by: Eaton

does anyone have any intel on whether or not we will be able to buy an unlocked Nokia 6126?

Posted by: bodeh6

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Originally Posted by Eaton

does anyone have any intel on whether or not we will be able to buy an unlocked Nokia 6126?

You can buy a unlocked 6131 right now. Same phone pretty much.

Posted by: DigiPilot

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Originally Posted by bobolito

I'm not sure I follow you. They wouldn't have PDAs and smartphones if that were the case.

The 6131 is easier to use that any Motorola according to everyone that has used it. The 6126 should be no different.

PDAs and smartphones are in a different class all together due to 1) large & bulky size and 2) people buying them for Internet/websurfing, etc, and will generally be buying a data plan to go along with the voice plan, hence the enhanced revenue stream already there.

I guess I should have been clearer about "regular" phones... nice small lightweight compact ones without full qwerty keypads... with advanced features (MP3 player, long-length voice/conversation & video recording, custom ringers and video ringers that the customer can make themselves and load into the phone with their own PC over BT/IR/USB without paying the carrier each time (VZW-bashing here).

I wish we had the opportunity to have seen the 6126/6131, but alas we don't.

Posted by: b0stonirishguy

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Originally Posted by bobolito

Bobo, what's on the horizon for you now? Wait to see if any 6126s turn up on letstalk, etc., or grab a 6131? Or wait for another Cingular phone?

p.s. can we update the thread title to "cancelled" with two "L's"? Sorry, the editor in me couldn't help it.

Posted by: awj223

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Originally Posted by alevin

It is a regional issue. The VMI may or may not work with the blue SIM.

What is the issue with Blue and VMIs? From other posts, it seems that something about the way Blue handled VMIs in the interaction between the network, SIM card, and phone is antiquated, and that the newer Nokia phones aren't backwards compatible with this old method.

I've also seen problem reports from people with older 32K Orange SIMs, the difference being that Orange customers can upgrade the SIM and keep their plans.

Pure speculation: I wouldn't be surprised if the 6126 had the same problems (if it ever sees the light of day). Couldn't Cingular have just been planning to adopt a Company policy that all customers buying 6126 phones would be given 3G SIM cards?

Posted by: bodeh6

The Voice Mail indicator problem is not limited to just Blue SIMS. Another Nokia S40.V3 phone, the 6270, had the same issue with Cingular and T-Mobile SIMs. It is just a Nokia thing.

Posted by: Acme

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Originally Posted by bostonirishguy

p.s. can we update the thread title to "cancelled" with two "L's"? Sorry, the editor in me couldn't help it.

The editor in you apparently doesn't know that "canceled" is the preferred spelling in American english. Spelling it "cancelled" is like spelling "theater" as "theatre". It's a spelling seen more in the queen's english. As far as I'm concerned we kicked their arses back to England in the 1700s so we get to decide how things are spelled here. "Canceled" is correct.

Posted by: experiment626

Cingular needs to hurry up and implement that name change back to "at&t wireless" because as it stands now the only word people associate Cingular with is "Dropped "!

Posted by: helpermonkey

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Originally Posted by DigiPilot

Phones from most major manufacturers meet technical standards just fine, or else the FCC would never approve them. Also the engineers from Nokia, Moto, Samsung, et al, are not dummies. After researching some disturbing trends in US wireless phone carriers for the past half-year or so, I highly suspect the biggest reasons why US carriers, (all of them are guilty), fail to allow certain new phones on their network in recent times is almost always tied to either things like issues for customer support (e.g. the phone is too complicated and the average joe sixpack idiot customer will have problems operating the thing and it is perceived to be an source of endless support calls) or the phone flat outright has advanced features that the carrier does not wish for its customers to have unless they can figure out some way of creating a revenue stream for each and every use of those advanced features in a pay-per-use manner, or else cripple them out of the phone.

Well I can assure you that this phone failed to be released due to any of the reasons you have mentioned. Nor have any of the other recent failures I know of for Cingular.

Posted by: Topsales

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Originally Posted by experiment626

Cingular needs to hurry up and implement that name change back to "at&t wireless" because as it stands now the only word people associate Cingular with is "Dropped "!

Comments like this keep making my monitor smell like beer.

Posted by: I have a phone

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Originally Posted by experiment626

Cingular needs to hurry up and implement that name change back to "at&t wireless" because as it stands now the only word people associate Cingular with is "Dropped "!

you think a name change is going to bring back the old days where AWS released anything they could get in bulk?

Posted by: shoman94

At least they carried more of an actual selection....

Posted by: ace587

at&t was awesome, but i cant complain abt cingular, as long as cingular doesnt bother me with reception

Posted by: I have a phone

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Originally Posted by shoman94

At least they carried more of an actual selection of crappy phones....

there I fixed it for you

Posted by: shoman94

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Originally Posted by I'm a retard

there I fixed it for you

There I fixed yours...

Seriously though I rarely had issues with phones ATT had.... If I did it was dumb stuff....

Cingular has about 15 phones available and 5 of them are razrs, 2 are slvrs and the Samsungs and LG look and work all the same with just some different features....

Posted by: I have a phone

oh well, time for you to go to another operator if you don't like their selection

Posted by: shoman94

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Originally Posted by I have a phone

oh well, time for you to go to another operator if you don't like their selection

No...I just keep my ATT plan with the NA package and buy unlocked phones that do everything I want.

Posted by: experiment626

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Originally Posted by I have a phone

oh well, time for you to go to another operator if you don't like their selection

Yea,Go to a company which seems to have no problem adding phones to their line up.A company like,say,.......SunCom?

Seriously,if SunCom can get these phones(like the 6126 for one) what's holding up Cingular?Sun Com might not have the network to compete now but if T-Mobile buys them out,as many have predicted, the combined carriers would offer a serious challange to Cingular's position as the no.1 GSM provider in the US.

Posted by: ace587

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Originally Posted by I have a phone

oh well, time for you to go to another operator if you don't like their selection

too bad if u base an operator solely on phones offered

Posted by: bobolito

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Originally Posted by bostonirishguy

I am more inclined for the 6131 now due to the fact that it has more features. We'll see.

Posted by: helpermonkey

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Originally Posted by experiment626

Yea,Go to a company which seems to have no problem adding phones to their line up.A company like,say,.......SunCom?

Seriously,if SunCom can get these phones(like the 6126 for one) what's holding up Cingular?

What IS holding up Cingular? Cingular doesn't release a phone (this phone) because it does not meet the standards that Cingular requires of it. That is completely different from what you are implying.

Posted by: bobolito

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Originally Posted by experiment626

Yea,Go to a company which seems to have no problem adding phones to their line up.A company like,say,.......SunCom?

LOL!

Suncom? A company that loses money quarter after quarter with churn higher than T-Mobile? LOL!

A Suncom + T-Mobile merger will still be a distant #4. If Sprint/Nextel is not really a challenge for Cingular then what makes you think a T-Mobile/Suncom combination will shake the ground.

Posted by: anubis9278

since the 6126 is now dead, i can wish for a cingular branded nokia n75 for xmas.

Posted by: experiment626

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Originally Posted by bobolito

LOL!

O.K. maybe I'm being a bit overly optimistic about a SunCom & T-Mobile merger.But my point was how can a company like SunCom have the phone lineup they have (which is pretty nice) while Cingular seems to struggle?

BTW,I have no idea who,if anyone,is really threatened by the Sprint/Nextel merger.

Posted by: bodeh6

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Originally Posted by anubis9278

since the 6126 is now dead, i can wish for a cingular branded nokia n75 for xmas.

Yeah maybe in 2010.

Posted by: bobolito

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Originally Posted by experiment626

BTW,I have no idea who,if anyone,is really threatened by the Sprint/Nextel merger.

By what I've been reading, Suncom is not too happy with the 6126 either. They may not release the phone either just like Rogers in Canada probably never will. Sounds to me it is not a Cingular problem this time.

Posted by: SE Aholic

My understanding was a major issue was the inside screen. Now I have never scene or played with one in person but just what was explained to me. The inside screen basically has no protection between the screen and the user. In other words you could push your finger against the screen and see the bleed/color fade like you could on some computer monitors. Cingular asked for this item to be fixed and nokias response was something to the effect of they wont fix it but will warranty it for 1 year against bleeding/fading I guess. Now remember cingular doesnt like phone issues coming back to bight them especially when they know the issue before approving. So they decided to uphold there name instead of purchase a phone that may lead to a bad reputation. How many times does anyone here YOU sold me this phone ? The common customer associates the carrier as the bad guy when something effecting the phone goes wrong with there phone even though we all know they didnt produce it.

Posted by: experiment626

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Originally Posted by bobolito

I stand corrected.

I was under the impression that the 6126 had already been released by SunCom,which it has not.That screen design is odd but of all the complaints I've read about from owners of the 6131 the screen has not been one of them.Still doesn't seem to be an issue that can't be easily addressed by Nokia.Was it really worth cancelling the phone over?

Posted by: shoman94

I don't know what the problem with the screen is.... doesn't make sense to me. The keypad never touches it like every other flip phone I've owned.
Razr phones get marked and filled with dust...but that OK?

Posted by: b0stonirishguy

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Originally Posted by Acme

I never said the spelling was incorrect. Both spellings are acceptable. I was stating personal preference. My sn will explain why.

Posted by: Acme

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Originally Posted by bostonirishguy

I never said the spelling was incorrect. Both spellings are acceptable. I was stating personal preference. My sn will explain why.

LOL -- I didn't catch that before. My bad.

Posted by: dday64

I can't believe this phone was cancelled. I'm glad I bought the 6131 now.

And the best part is that I've had the 6131 for two months now, and it works great. Everything connects to the internet (Google Mobile, Opera, SMS, MMS, etc), reception is great, everything is great. The only problem is the lack of an IM program (and no one can name one one to download

).

So I can't imagine it not passing for any of those reasons..

As for the screen.. I didn't even realize the inside screen was like that until I just read this thread (and I've had it two months). It's pretty much like a laptop screen, although it takes more pressure than a laptop to make any lines. And it's embedded a bit, so the keys never hit the screen. You'd have to be really abusive to mess the screen up, and that goes the same with every phone.

Definitely a disappointment this phone didn't make it out, because I think it's a great phone and would have been a great sell for Cingular.

Posted by: flnsx

How can they have canceled this phone?

I saw the DEMO unit at Best Buy in West Palm Today!!

I think you guys are wrong. I asked the guy and he said next week arrival.

Posted by: anubis9278

4 real!!! i'm gonna drive down cause they the only ones that have it.

Posted by: flnsx

Yes they have a plastic demo phone. Just saw it an hour ago.

Posted by: I have a phone

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Originally Posted by flnsx

How can they have canceled this phone?

I saw the DEMO unit at Best Buy in West Palm Today!!

I think you guys are wrong. I asked the guy and he said next week arrival.

He must be smokin' some of that sticky bud. There's nothing arriving next week

Posted by: Topsales

Quote:

Originally Posted by I have a phone

He must be smokin' some of that sticky bud. There's nothing arriving next week

Yea and Amazon took it off their site. Nothing is coming next week and probably ever.

Posted by: awj223

Someone on the phonescoop forums just posted that the 6126 was not canceled, but "pushed back indefinitely". Who knows what that means. The person speculates that it means "at least sometime into the 4th quarter". Hmm, didn't I hear Q2 2006, then it got pushed back to Q3...maybe that means next year.

By the time they get that phone released, if ever, it's going to be obsolete. Nokia released triband phones just in time for quad band. Nokia is starting to release quad band phones just in time for 3G. They'll probably release their first North American HSDPA handset just in time for HSUPA.

Posted by: Topsales

Quote:

Originally Posted by awj223

Someone on the phonescoop forums just posted that the 6126 was not canceled, but "pushed back indefinitely". Who knows what that means. The person speculates that it means "at least sometime into the 4th quarter". Hmm, didn't I heard Q2 2006, then it got pushed back to Q3...maybe that means next year.

If and that is a big IF the 6126 is released, it will have to be released by Nokia without a major carrier. The N80 was just released for NA by Nokia, without a major carrier picking it up. IMO I don't think that will happen.

Posted by: awj223

Quote:

Originally Posted by alevin

Is the NA N80 version WCDMA 1900 or 2100? I'm seeing 2100 on the US Nokia website...not sure why they'd expect anyone here to buy it if it can't do 3G here.

Posted by: Topsales

Yes, it is 2100. For those of us on T-mo we won't have 3g for a long time, so it won't matter. Most of us will move on to another phone by than.

Posted by: experiment626

Quote:

Originally Posted by awj223

Someone on the phonescoop forums just posted that the 6126 was not canceled, but "pushed back indefinitely". Who knows what that means.

It means "soon" after the Motorola V3i is released.

Posted by: Joe Kewl

Quote:

Originally Posted by alevin

Where can buy an N80 without getting ripped off in the states?

Posted by: DonaldMick

You can buy it direct from Nokia if you don't consider $599 a ripoff.

Posted by: helpermonkey

Quote:

Originally Posted by flnsx

How can they have canceled this phone?

I saw the DEMO unit at Best Buy in West Palm Today!!

I think you guys are wrong. I asked the guy and he said next week arrival.

Yah I am sure that guy knows something... sorry but he is wrong. At least they will not be getting any Cingular branded ones because Cingular has canceled the phone and stopped field testing of the device. It couldn't be more clear than that.

Quote:

Originally Posted by awj223

Someone on the phonescoop forums just posted that the 6126 was not canceled, but "pushed back indefinitely". Who knows what that means. The person speculates that it means "at least sometime into the 4th quarter". Hmm, didn't I hear Q2 2006, then it got pushed back to Q3...maybe that means next year.

The only way that would make any sense is if Nokia is trying to change the
hardware on the device to make Cingular happy. No idea if there is any truth to that or not.

Posted by: fourfone

Quote:

Originally Posted by shoman94

I don't know what the problem with the screen is.... doesn't make sense to me. The keypad never touches it like every other flip phone I've owned.
Razr phones get marked and filled with dust...but that OK?

http://www.mobile-review.com/review/nokia-6131-en.shtml

The LCD does NOT have a clear glass/plastic cover on top of it like most phones (and most LCD applications) - you are touching the glass of the LCD itself. The LCD is sealed to the bezel of the flip - any flexing can break the seal and allow stuff - liquid, dust, dirt - inside the phone. On many phones with clear, plastic covers, they are integrated into the casing and can flex somewhat while the LCD is actually 'floating' in the case. That is not the case with the 6126/6131.

Posted by: bobolito

I just repaired a V600 earpiece that had too much dirt which caused it to malfunction, but the screen on those phones have the protector. Whether there is a protector or not, you wouldn't believe the amount of junk that gets in the phone anyways!

Posted by: bluesman78

So is the Nokia 6126 OFFICIAL dead? I need to move on from this heartbreak. Right now living in denial. Have to move to a <gasp> Moto.

Posted by: Superpimp

Why did that cancel this sweet azz phone?

Posted by: Topsales

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superpimp

Why did that cancel this sweet azz phone?

It didn't pass Cingular's testing.

Posted by: ace587

lol, the phone was designed to reject cingular crapware

Posted by: helpermonkey

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superpimp

Why did that cancel this sweet azz phone?

Maybe because the phone was azz... go complain to Nokia for making a poor quality phone (if indeed they did make it, maybe it was Ben-Q who I have read makes the other cheap Nokia flips - and it shows).

Posted by: mendel

What's the next best phone, in quality, that I can get from Cingular???

Posted by: alexasha

Quote:

Originally Posted by mendel

What's the next best phone, in quality, that I can get from Cingular???

I would like to know that too. My v551 is at the death steps. I am considering SE 525z but very open to suggestions. The most important for me is good reception. Other things are secondary

Posted by: flnsx

Me too. RF is the MOST important thing.

Maybe the ONLY phone is the 6230. What else has reception like that?

Can a person buy a non Cingular 850mhz phone and still get good RF on the network?

Posted by: Serifan

Quote:

Originally Posted by mendel

What's the next best phone, in quality, that I can get from Cingular???

...maybe the SE W810i.

Posted by: alexasha

Quote:

Originally Posted by freck

...maybe the SE W810i.

How about in the flip phone category?

Posted by: Topsales

Quote:

Originally Posted by flnsx

Me too. RF is the MOST important thing.

Maybe the ONLY phone is the 6230. What else has reception like that?

Can a person buy a non Cingular 850mhz phone and still get good RF on the network?

As long as the phone has both 850 and 1900 you should be fine. The 6131 is a nice phone. There are many on Cingular who use and love it.

Posted by: Serifan

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexasha

How about in the flip phone category?

3125, but it's a smartphone, if that matters.

Posted by: Michael95GT

Quote:

Can a person buy a non Cingular 850mhz phone and still get good RF on the network?

Yes!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Serifan

Quote:

Originally Posted by flnsx

Can a person buy a non Cingular 850mhz phone and still get good RF on the network?

It depends on where you live. In some areas, you will get no reception at all.

Posted by: inurb

How come you can't find any 6126 on ebay? Plenty of 6131 but no 6126...

Posted by: Serifan

Quote:

Originally Posted by inurb

How come you can't find any 6126 on ebay? Plenty of 6131 but no 6126...

...because it was never officially released. Sometimes test models and prototypes get into the hands of certain people who then sell them on eBay, but the 6126 is a slightly stripped down 6131.

Posted by: inurb

Quote:

Originally Posted by freck

...because it was never officially released. Sometimes test models and prototypes get into the hand of people and they sell them on eBay, but the 6126 is slightly stripped don 6131.

thanks, so it was never released on the market anywhere in the world. 6125 here I come

Posted by: ace587

Quote:

Originally Posted by inurb

thanks, so it was never released on the market anywhere in the world. 6125 here I come

i asked abt the 6131 in my contacts in Asia, theyve never heard of the phone

Posted by: AMSguitarist

Shouldn't the title of this thread be Nokia 6126 (cancelled) not Nokia 6126 (canceled)sp??

Posted by: manhole

Quote:

Originally Posted by inurb

thanks, so it was never released on the market anywhere in the world. 6125 here I come

I'm not sure why nobody talks about the 6125. It seems to be a very good alternative to the 6230. Feature wise it seems to be just about perfect, if only the screen resolution was a tad bit better

-Manhole

Posted by: KiSsTiNe

holy crap. this sucks. i was saving my upgrade for this phone.

Posted by: macizcool

Quote:

Originally Posted by AMSguitarist

Shouldn't the title of this thread be Nokia 6126 (cancelled) not Nokia 6126 (canceled)sp??

No.

And we have already gone through that.

Posted by: awj223

Quote:

Originally Posted by freck

Canceled has one "l".

This is like "gray" and "grey". Both spellings are correct.

Posted by: AMSguitarist

Sorry, did realize it would start a debate. I always believed that cancel(l)ed was spelt cancelled. I did a google search and it's about 50/50 with everybody claiming that both are the correct spelling.

On topic:

Hopefully the V3i is canceled along with the 6126.

Posted by: Serifan

Quote:

Originally Posted by AMSguitarist

Hopefully the V3i is canceled along with the 6126.

It's certainly starting to look that way.

Posted by: ace587

hopefully, so its gonna be more rare

Posted by: flnsx

I had a D600 and it had major problems on the Cingular network. It would drop calls all the time and just plain sucked. On T mobile it was fine. It wasn't the phone, it was the network.

If I get a 6131 will I have the same problems?

Hmmmmmmm

Posted by: Serifan

Quote:

Originally Posted by flnsx

I had a D600 and it had major problems on the Cingular network. It would drop calls all the time and just plain sucked. On T mobile it was fine. It wasn't the phone, it was the network.

If I get a 6131 will I have the same problems?

Hmmmmmmm

If you can determine for sure that it is, in fact, the network, then the answer is obvious. If the network sucks, the phone is not going to make it any better.

Posted by: helpermonkey

Or it was the phone's interaction with the network, which makes it the phone.

Posted by: Topsales

Quote:

Originally Posted by helpermonkey

Or it was the phone's interaction with the network, which makes it the phone.

Correct. The 6131 seems to work better on T-mobile than Cingular. That is why it is hard to make a judgement on a phone unless you get confirmation from others ON THE SAME NETWORK.

Posted by: flnsx

Alevin,

How does your 6131 work? It must not be that bad if you keep on using it.

Posted by: Topsales

I'm on T-mobile and it works great. I was one of the early adopters on HoFo and one of the 6131s loudest supporters. I have been following the saga of the 6131 from the day of its release and have noticed more people have had problems with it on Cingular than T-mo. This is only my observation, not scientific fact.

Posted by: b0stonirishguy

I've had my 6131 since May 12, and I've really had very few issues with it on Cingular. My VMI works fine. I do hear the "clicking" noise, but only when placing a call and the phone is ringing before it's answered.

Posted by: alexasha

Quote:

Originally Posted by freck

3125, but it's a smartphone, if that matters.

It does not look like flip phone nor smartphone.

Posted by: vorpalwombat

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexasha

It does not look like flip phone nor smartphone.

original poster was referring to the not yet released Cingular 3125: http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=899

*not* the nokia 3125:
http://www.nokia-asia.com/nokia/0,,56178,00.html

Posted by: alexasha

Quote:

Originally Posted by vorpalwombat

original poster was referring to the not yet released Cingular 3125: http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=899

*not* the nokia 3125:
http://www.nokia-asia.com/nokia/0,,56178,00.html

My bad. The phone looks nice, but it is again unavailable. ANy thoughts on SE 525z?

Posted by: shoman94

Quote:

Originally Posted by alevin

Correct. The 6131 seems to work better on T-mobile than Cingular. That is why it is hard to make a judgement on a phone unless you get confirmation from others ON THE SAME NETWORK.

I was in an area that used tmobile this weekend and it worked the same for me on both Cingular and tmo.

Posted by: hitechy

Funny thing, I just got a Cingular brochure in the mail with the 6131 in it

. You think maybe they could make up there minds to sell it before they do all the marketing

. Don't you just love vaporware.

Posted by: alexasha

I called cingular store yesterday and they told me that they expect 6126 anytime

Posted by: substance12

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexasha

I called cingular store yesterday and they told me that they expect 6126 anytime

no offense to anyone but my experience has been that the knowledge of cingular store reps has varied signficantly.

Posted by: alexasha

That all means that I will probably hold on with upgrade for another month or so.

Posted by: kirbo20

According to my sources at the Cingular warehouse where we order our phone from say that the Nokia 6126 will be available around the first week of September. However I am well aware of Cingulars ability to release a phone when they say they are going to so who knows.

Posted by: bluesman78

Would you guys seriously touch this phone with all the controversy?? Especially if you don't get a discount! Might as well buy an unlocked 6131

Posted by: kirbo20

I actually just bought a Motorola A1200 but yes I would carry the 6126. It will be in my opinion the best phone that Cingular has released to date. (as far a a regular cell phone and not a PDA)

Posted by: helpermonkey

People (kirbo20), the 6126 has been canceled. It is not even being field tested any more. It was not approved. It will not be released. And even if it would be, it would require new Nokia hardware and ALL new testing again, so you would see it in like 4-6 months or something like that and none of you would want it then anyway.

I highly doubt it would be anywhere near the best phone Cingular has ever release Kirbo20. Do you even have experience with one to make such a claim? If not, it is a pretty empty statement. I will say for my part that it is not even impressive. Just another phone.

Posted by: kirbo20

Quote:

Originally Posted by helpermonkey

People (kirbo20), the 6126 has been canceled. It is not even being field tested any more. It was not approved. It will not be released. And even if it would be, it would require new Nokia hardware and ALL new testing again, so you would see it in like 4-6 months or something like that and none of you would want it then anyway.

I highly doubt it would be anywhere near the best phone Cingular has ever release Kirbo20. Do you even have experience with one to make such a claim? If not, it is a pretty empty statement. I will say for my part that it is not even impressive. Just another phone.

I spent an afternoon playing with this phone and I can say that it may be the best phone that Cingular has released to date. The screen is by far the best I have ever seen. (Even better than the D807) This thing is packed full of features and the only thing it lacks is UMTS. If it does get released even though you say it won't what would you consider a better phone?

Samsung ZX20-Little Screen
Samsung D807-Lots of Bugs
LG CU500-LG

My Opinion but like everyone says; "Opinions are like Buttholes everyone has one but nobody wants to see them or hear them"

Posted by: shoman94

Quote:

Originally Posted by kirbo20

I agree........

Posted by: I have a phone

Quote:

Originally Posted by kirbo20

If it does get released...

there's no reason to hypothesize anything. It's dead

Posted by: KlamshellKing

i think if cingular released this phone, it would have sold more than the v3i... everyone i know that has a razr hates it, so why buy another??

Posted by: ace587

now get the 6131

Posted by: helpermonkey

Quote:

Originally Posted by kirbo20

Well I agree, the ZX-20 is not great, for more reasons than the small screen. The D807 as much as I like it, has volume issues and some other things. The CU500 is buggy too, but likely to be a better UMTS performer than the Samsung. I would take the W810i over the 6126. I would even take the W810i's little brother over it too. I would take the V3i too probably. I would take the Star Treck over it for sure! I was not impressed with the Nokia at all. It was a big let down. I had expected more from Nokia after being a big Nokia fan since the TDMA days. I was wrong, it is not that impressive. It may have been good or ok, but I would not say any better.

Posted by: ace587

Quote:

Originally Posted by helpermonkey

i dnt think it was ever designed to compete with those phones.... the 6126 belongs to a different class

Posted by: manhole

Quote:

Originally Posted by I have a phone

there's no reason to hypothesize anything. It's dead

It will get released, just not by Cingular. This phone is already available through LetsTalk.com for Suncom. Fido is releasing it on September 6th, and it shouldn't be long after that you will be able to buy the unbranded unlocked version.

I can only hope the 6126 will not have the VMI problem that the 6131 has. Since I am using an AT&T Wireless sim card in California I would probably not have a voice mail indicator if I get the 6131, so I have to wait

Posted by: ace587

i have a 64K sim card from cingular no VMI problems whatsoever

Posted by: bobolito

Those with no VMI issues using Cingular, can you specify your location?

Posted by: manhole

Quote:

Originally Posted by ace587

i have a 64K sim card from cingular no VMI problems whatsoever

It seems that all of the ones without the VMI issue have the 64K sim card. However that is not an option for me because I am on an AT&T Wireless plan with an AT&T Wireless sim card

Posted by: grdella

i was using the 6131 in CT with a 64K NON 3g sim and VMI worked fine. this phone is not all it is made out to be. scratches very easily on inside and a lot are having problems with chipping paint on the outside. I sold mine after a week and got a SE w810i and am MUCH happier with it. To each their own though

Posted by: helpermonkey

Quote:

Originally Posted by ace587

i dnt think it was ever designed to compete with those phones.... the 6126 belongs to a different class

What class is that? It doesn't look or work any different from any other plain old phone I have used really.

Posted by: sr1329

Quote:

Originally Posted by helpermonkey

You want a Nokia at that level then find yourself an N73 or N93.

Posted by: helpermonkey

Quote:

Originally Posted by sr1329

You want a Nokia at that level then find yourself an N73 or N93.

Well the N93 looks very nice, but I prefer my 3G phone to actually have 3G where I am using it (in the US NOKIA!). Buying a 3G phone just to get 2G service is just backwards. That is my current impression of Nokia.

Posted by: beatniks3

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobolito

Those with no VMI issues using Cingular, can you specify your location?

midwest, WI, no problems here.

Posted by: Michael95GT

Quote:

Those with no VMI issues using Cingular, can you specify your location?

The south; Memphis, Tn market. No problems

Posted by: ace587

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobolito

Those with no VMI issues using Cingular, can you specify your location?

Miami, FL no problems

Posted by: b0stonirishguy

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobolito

Those with no VMI issues using Cingular, can you specify your location?

Boston, MA

Posted by: charlyee

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobolito

Those with no VMI issues using Cingular, can you specify your location?

SE Wisconsin-No Problems.

Posted by: Eaton

Anyone from Philly to DC having problems?

Posted by: NS4683

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobolito

Those with no VMI issues using Cingular, can you specify your location?

32k SIM in New Jersey and no VMI problems.

Posted by: barrister68

Slightly OT, but the 6126 has been released for Cincinnati Bell Wireless. $149. Cincinnati Bell does not have contracts, but it locks the phone to its network. So do I switch, or do I buy it and unlock it and stick with Cingular (if it can be unlocked?)?

Posted by: alexasha

Quote:

Originally Posted by barrister68

Slightly OT, but the 6126 has been released for Cincinnati Bell Wireless. $149. Cincinnati Bell does not have contracts, but it locks the phone to its network. So do I switch, or do I buy it and unlock it and stick with Cingular (if it can be unlocked?)?

Just went ot Cincinnati Bell Wireless website. I can not find any trace of 6126.

Posted by: barrister68

http://www.cincinnatibell.com/consu.../?id=nokia_6126

Posted by: inurb

Is that cincinatti bell store a joke or something? they are selling the 6126

without contract for 149>!>!>!>?!?!

Is this a scam or something?

n/m they want you to start a contact with them

Posted by: barrister68

No contract amigo -- CBW does not have contracts. $149 out the door (but you have to signup for service, and to sign up for service you have to live in the tri-state or Dayton).

CBW service wise, is probably the best cell phone company out there.

Posted by: mendel

how does the LG CU500 compare?

Posted by: b0stonirishguy

Quote:

Originally Posted by mendel

how does the LG CU500 compare?

In what way(s)? I have both, and would recommend them.

Posted by: mendel

Quote:

Originally Posted by bostonirishguy

In what way(s)? I have both, and would recommend them.

feature wise, and in general Nokia RF and reliability

Posted by: ace587

youll never go wrong with nokia in terms of RF and quality

Posted by: b0stonirishguy

Quote:

Originally Posted by mendel

feature wise, and in general Nokia RF and reliability

The CU500 is the best LG I've owned. The 3G is fast, as is the EDGE. Call quality and RF seems to be equal to the 6131. There are some negatives, though. The confirmation tone and the Java permissions issue are annoying.

The 6131 to me is the a flip phone version of the 6270, which I also found to be a good mobile. RF is typical Nokia—good. I have noticed the "popping" or "clicking" noises mentioned by others, but only when initiating a call.

Posted by: ace587

Quote:

Originally Posted by bostonirishguy

i was very curious, and i tried initiating calls around like 10 times to test the popping or clicking noises, mine doesnt have it, where were those 6131's made?, mine was made in hungary

Posted by: b0stonirishguy

Quote:

Originally Posted by ace587

i was very curious, and i tried initiating calls around like 10 times to test the popping or clicking noises, mine doesnt have it, where were those 6131's made?, mine was made in hungary

Mine is "made by Nokia." I'd guess China or maybe Hong Kong.

The noises appear to occur when using 850.

Posted by: Topsales

Quote:

Originally Posted by ace587

i was very curious, and i tried initiating calls around like 10 times to test the popping or clicking noises, mine doesnt have it, where were those 6131's made?, mine was made in hungary

Mine was made in Hungary and it has the popping sounds. IMO it is a regional network interation situation. I pretty much ignore the sounds, as they only seem to occur when dialing or with long pauses in the conversation. They are really quite soft sounds.

Posted by: ace587

Quote:

Originally Posted by bostonirishguy

Mine is "made by Nokia." I'd guess China or maybe Hong Kong.

The noises appear to occur when using 850.

update: yes i do hear sounds on mine too, its when a call starts, but its very very little, im jst gonna ignore it, doesnt seem like a big problem to me

Posted by: shoman94

Wirelessly posted (Nokia 6131: Opera/8.01 (J2ME/MIDP; Opera Mini/2.0.4509/1316; en; U; ssr))

I hear it during conversion.... Only i can hear it... And it verys from call to call. Mine was made in hungary... 3.50 firmware.

Posted by: dday64

Are we talking about the popping sounds?

I do hear them every so often but it's not a big deal to me. My home line sounds worse with static.

Of course it was funny trying to use Fedex's voice operated system one time with the pops. Fedex had a fit and kept choosing random things.

Posted by: PhantomFone

Quote:

Originally Posted by .7

One of my sources has confirmed that the phone is offically been pulled from Cingular's lineup and testers have been told to stop testing and send back their devices. The issue Ive been told is HADWARE related, not software/firmware as previously speculated. The phone is dead issue and it will not be released by Cingular.

I rarely share my reliable source info b/c everyone wants to give you the 3rd degree when do.

But I thought I'd mention that the 6126 was pulled due to what Cingular considers lack of quality. So yeah, def a hardware issue.

Posted by: dday64

I don't doubt what you say, it's just very strange. I don't notice anything wrong with my 6131, and it definitely works a lot better than previous phones I've had (like the v551)

Posted by: ace587

yea, me too, the 6131 is an awesome phone for me, how bt the suncom 6126's what the news with them? i think canadian gsm providers will release it

Posted by: KingJ2002

strange... i just talked to my nokia rep and it's still on the way... pushed back into late september. The phone is basically done and we already have marketing tools for the phone.

Posted by: Antioch18

Nice. Nice. It was cancelled so I folded and bought the 6131. Real nice. Crap.

Hmm