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mounting k750 or w800 back plate on a w810?
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Posted by: _LawmaN_

I was wondering will the back plate from a k750 or w800 be compatible with the w810? I'm wanting to have a lens cover for my phone.

I've never actually seen a k750 in person, but i'm assuming that you manually slide the cover to expose the lens. (I heard that on a k750 it will also boot up the camera mode)
Could somone explain how the lens cover works on the w800? It that switch that just to the left of the flash led? and is it open and close position or a toggle switch?

I know that if it was compatible, it wouldn't automatically boot up the camera mode in my w810. I was thinking that I would just open it up when ever i decided to use the camera.

Posted by: splunk

That's the one thing I don't get about the w810i...why no cover like the w800...

Posted by: Quillz

Quote:

Originally Posted by splunk

That's the one thing I don't get about the w810i...why no cover like the w800...

To reduce the manufacturing costs, and to encourage people wanting a superior camera phone to go for the K790a.

Posted by: zkool448

So is it possible to use back cover of K750i mount to the 810i back for cam lens protection? If so, would someone kindly post a tutorial link on how to do it without breaking my week old 810i?

Posted by: Havo

Quote:

Originally Posted by zkool448

So is it possible to use back cover of K750i mount to the 810i back for cam lens protection? If so, would someone kindly post a tutorial link on how to do it without breaking my week old 810i?

I doubt it. I think the screen on the W810 backplate are located in different spots than on the K750. You would need a different frame and the one from the K750 doesn't fit on the W810 so in simple terms... The answer is no...

Posted by: icecubesyum

Yes you can do it. I did.

Posted by: Havo

Quote:

Originally Posted by icecubesyum

Yes you can do it. I did.

Care to post pics?

Posted by: icecubesyum

I don't have my w810 anymore. I sold it because of school and am getting another one Tuesday. To get it to fit, one of the clips need to be taken off and then it fits. Even if all the clips are taken off a knock off backplate, it mounts with the screws and fits fine. It's been confirmed by many users.

Posted by: zkool448

icecubesyum, was it difficult? I've just placed an order for a k750i back plate and will attempt to install it on my 810i as soon as I get it.

cheers!

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Posted by: icecubesyum

No, just break off a clip on one of the sides, I believe you can break all the clips and just place it on and then screw it on. It's super easy. Beware of non-oem k750 housings though. The lens cover scratched my lens which defeated the purpose. I'm looking into an OEM w800 or K750 rather than aftermarket.

Posted by: zkool448

Thanks! good thing I did order an OEM one.

cheers!

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Posted by: sake_yo

zkool, mind telling me where you ordered the OEM back housing from? Did you have to order the whole housing? Mind posting simple instructions and a pic too? Sorry I'm asking a lot but I'm very interested in changing it too. Thanks

Posted by: glorfingal

got my oem back cover (k750i) from cnn.cn. Fitting couldn't be easier. when you
look at the inside of the 750 cover you'll find a small tab and a hook like clip (secures
to the chassis with this) on the upper right, near the flash led opening that will have to
be removed (sharp knife will do it). After that's cleean and smooth, pop it on from the
top downwards and screw it down - voila job's a good 'un :-)

About 15 mins in all.

Posted by: icecubesyum

so there were no problems with the cover gliding against the lens like with the non oem one i had, correct?

Posted by: zkool448

Quote:

Originally Posted by sake_yo

zkool, mind telling me where you ordered the OEM back housing from? Did you have to order the whole housing? Mind posting simple instructions and a pic too? Sorry I'm asking a lot but I'm very interested in changing it too. Thanks

As glorfingal did, I also ordered mine from cnn.cn. i just have to wait a few more days and will soon find out how well it works. I'll post on this thread as soon as I complete the back cover swap perhaps include some pictures as well.

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Posted by: glorfingal

Nope no probs at all - the oem back cover is raised above the lens, have a look
at this and you'll see what I mean.

http://rapidshare.de/files/25492103/PICT0002.JPG.html

Posted by: zkool448

Quote:

Originally Posted by glorfingal

Nope no probs at all - the oem back cover is raised above the lens, have a look
at this and you'll see what I mean.

http://rapidshare.de/files/25492103/PICT0002.JPG.html

Thanks glorfingal, looks great and seems you're W810 camera lens is now prone from getting scratched or dirty!

Btw, could you tell us if you hear a difference with the volume or sound quality of the handsfree speakers now that they appear to be a tad covered by the new K750i back plate?

thanks.

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Posted by: sake_yo

Thanks for the pic and instructions Glorfingal. A few more questions if you don't mind. Did you order the k750i back plate and battery cover? Because that's 12.99 + 5.99. You could just order backplate set (ie front and back) for 19.99 at cnn.cn. What other tools did you need? ie type of screwdriver? Thanks. Appreciate it.

Posted by: glorfingal

foolishly only the back plate (didn't look), then ordered the battery cover ;-)
Pays to check first eh ??? I've tried to find a version that will scratch the
camera lens a failed so far - anyone got pictures of what NOT to get ??

The speaker aperture is smaller but raised slightly above where the original
810i one was so there's been no noticable difference in sound quality.

Tools wise - all you'll need is a SHARP blade (for trimming the back cover), a
small cross head screw driver (watch makers works well) and a thumb nail to
get the original cover off, although a blunt plastic item similar to a thin spatula
will do it.

Posted by: icecubesyum

wait, so your sliding cover does scratch the lens?

Posted by: glorfingal

nope - it's about 1 to 1.5 mm above the surface - have a look at the image linked above

Posted by: MrDisco1

that looks pretty cool! if someone is doing this could they take step by step pics of the process for newbies (me) on how to do this mod.

Posted by: jyng

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrDisco1

that looks pretty cool! if someone is doing this could they take step by step pics of the process for newbies (me) on how to do this mod.

I was really second guessing if i should get a 810 cause of the lack of a lens protector. This is awesome! Step by step pics would definitely help.

Posted by: glorfingal

I'll see what I can come up with :-) Especially as it took all of 10 mins to mod AND fit !

Posted by: asto_86

WOOHOO! now we have lens covers! cant wait to do it..

Posted by: glorfingal

Well said i'd have a go .....

http://rapidshare.de/files/26124387...itting.doc.html

Posted by: gdong

Thanks for writing up that guide!

Could you clarify what you mean with this line? "At this stage we’ve done the hard part – all that’s left now I to cut, shape and fit the stockings/tights to the
Speaker grill with the super glue. That’s the somewhat melted looking area in Fig 4".

Additionally, when I do some photoshopping, overlapping a k750 and w810 picture together and making them transparent, the 3 speaker holes don't seem to align up very well. Can you confirm they do?

And finally, would it be possible to take more pictures of the phone? I'd like to see exactly how it'll turn out before I decide to mod, thanks again.

Posted by: gdong

1 more question:

An auction for an OEM k750 housing like this http://cgi.ebay.com/OEM-Sony-Ericss... QQcmdZViewItem should be the same as the housing you'd get from cnn.cn?

Posted by: glorfingal

@gdong - the 750 holes are slightly farther to the left than the 810, but this
doesn't, in my experience, affect the sounds very much. The moulding on the
inside of the cover for the speakers' outline is the same, just the vent grill is in
a different location.
the "hard paart" is the modding of the cover - if you mess up here you'll need
a new cover - if you mess up the stocking cutting then just cut some more -
easy yeh ?
There's a shot of mine earlier in the post as well as the first in the guide.

Like I said took about 10 mins in all, start to finish, and if you don't like the end
result pop the original rear cover back on - best part about not having to mod
the chassis itself :-)

To my eyes that ebay linked item doesn't have the metal sliding lens cover
of a true oem housing, but hey at 6 US you're not going to lose. You'll just
need to compare the locating lugs and clips VERY carefully to the original
from the 810i.

Posted by: asto_86

so what does the stocking over the grill do?

Posted by: zkool448

I think the stocking over the grill is being applied to protect any dust from getting inside your housing once installed due to the somewhat larger grill holes compared to the w810... I think this might be a personal preference, however can someone confirm if their original K750i phone back plate has a cloth (stocking-like mesh) beneath their speaker grills?

I just did this back housing replacement on my W810i with a K750i back plate from cnn.cn. I followed glorfingal's directions exactly (thanks glorfingal!) except I did not place a stocking/cloth to cover over the grill. This mod was very easy to do and quick: took under 10 minutes, perfect fit, and my W810i now has a built-in sliding yet very slick lens cover -- just awesome!

Posted by: gdong

Is there a way to tell if it's OEM or aftermarket? I wouldn't want to purchase one off ebay and have it scratch the lens.

Posted by: zkool448

Here are some pics of the phone after installing a k750i backplate and battery cover:

Posted by: Mervin106

Can someone please post the instructions for this mod? The site hosting glorfingal's instructions has reached it's viewing limit. Thanks!

Posted by: glorfingal

stops dust ingress !

Posted by: gdong

It looks great =)

And 1 final question, although clips were removed from the housing, can you confirm that the phone feels just as sturdy?

Posted by: glorfingal

@gdong - given that the rear cover is raised (or the lens is recessed !)
as shown in some of the shots in this thread I'm finding it difficult to see
how the sliding cover even gets close to the lens cover itself - there has to
be a full 1.5mm from the lens surround (the silver ring) to the lens cover.

Also I've been told that the OEM 750i cover's sliding part is metal (someone
confirm this - btw mine is !) whereas the cheaper replacements are plastic.

it's just one clip so there's no real noticable change, and the clips and tabs
across the top hold everything square.

@mervin - pm me

Posted by: zkool448

Quote:

Originally Posted by gdong

It looks great =)

And 1 final question, although clips were removed from the housing, can you confirm that the phone feels just as sturdy?

Phone feels as sturdy and solid as the time I took it out of its original box, and the sliding cover plate on mine is a brushed metal/material (must be OEM).

For those who are looking for the step-by-step instructions provided by glorfingal I saved the file and can be found HERE. Enjoy!

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Posted by: glorfingal

cheers for the hosting kool :-)

Posted by: P'cisT

Does the camera automatically turn on when you slide the cover? I don't think so?

Posted by: gdong

I don't think so either. What kind of mechanism activates this on the k750? Would it be possible to port this feature over?

Posted by: pseudoo

Quote:

Originally Posted by P'cisT

Does the camera automatically turn on when you slide the cover? I don't think so?

Curious as well

Posted by: glorfingal

no the camera doesn't - there's no switching mechanism in the 810.

That would require some serious work as there are no pcb connections for the
switch and I doubt the firmware has any content for auto switching the
camera either. the 750i back cover in this installation is purely cosmetic.

The Se user guide for the 750i (from their site) says that sliding the cover
activates the camera - would mean that there's a switch involved.

Posted by: gdong

So the k750 housing's lens cover has some sort of switch at the back which interfaces with the pcb on a k750? I'm assuming the w810 has nothing even remotely resembling it?

Posted by: glorfingal

haven't taken a 750 apart so can't confirm/deny this - as the manual says
slide the cover to activate the camera I'm guessing it does. There's nothing
on the 810 for this - that mod would require A LOT of work to the chassis
and pcb - better to buy a 750i.

Posted by: gdong

Exactly what comes with the cnn.cn package?

I'm assuming it also has the part that is sandwhiched by the front and back plate, as well as the keypad and other buttons right?

Posted by: dirtysouth

so the speakers ont he back of the w810 will be covered if i put the w800 or k750 on it?

also, would the k750 back be the same color as the w810,
and i saw on ebay there are jet balck housings for w800, is that the same color as the w810?

i cant really tell from the pictures posted...

ty

Posted by: glorfingal

@gdong - the cnn.cn delivery will depend on what you order ! I only ordered
the back cover and battery cover so no middle bit or front cover (didn't need or
want them) - If you buy a "Full" housing then yes you'll get all the bits.

@dirtysouth - the back cover is EXACTLY (I was very pleasantly surprised) the
same colour as the 810i front, but the battery cover is slightly lighter, and a
little noticable - but I'm not fussed by this.

Posted by: dirtysouth

i read the word document, so basically remove the 3 clips o fthe k750 with a knife and it will fit the w810 perfectly? so i assume same goes for the w800 back will be the same as the k750..remove the 3 clips?

and what is the nylon stuff for? do i really need that?

Posted by: Desert_Fox

sir, when I get a w810, this will mod will be done immediately.

Posted by: glorfingal

@dirtysouth
it's one vertical tab and one clip, not sure about the 800 back - there's a thread about
for that conversion. he nylon is only for dust protection (on the inside of the speaker
grill).

Posted by: icecubesyum

Man, Im even too broke to do this mod... hehe.

Posted by: kenken325

another mod successful thx glorfingal!

Posted by: JordanEsh

ok so i know this has probably already been answered and im sure it doesnt work but i was wondering if i had a k750 if i could use the w810 middle black strip and put it with the k750 boards, and the front and back housing...

im guessing since the boards arent the same like the k750, d750, w800 were that this wont work... but i just thought id check to see...

thanks to anyone who can answer this for me...

Posted by: glorfingal

hhmmmm - just compared images (from cnn.cn) of a 750 middle and a 810 middle.
They appear to be broadly identical - there are a couple of points where locating tabs
don't line up (the 810's aren't symmetrical !) - so theorhetically the 810 centre could
be "adjusted" to accept the 750 bits.

Posted by: buster

Thanks to glorifingal!! Another successful w810 conversion completed.
Works perfect!

Posted by: _LawmaN_

after seeing the pics posted, of the k750 backing on the phone, I thought it was pretty slick, so changed my black w800 backing and slapped on the k750.

i guess I should edit my signature now. (I'm just too lazy atm.)

Posted by: dckl

Quote:

Originally Posted by glorfingal

@dirtysouth
he nylon is only for dust protection (on the inside of the speaker grill).

By covering up the speaker grill with superglue, wouldn't that muffle the sound coming out of the phone if turning on the speaker or listening to music on the speakers?

Posted by: glorfingal

nah - 2 little dabs, one in each corner to stop it falling away from the grill is all that's
needed.

Posted by: _LawmaN_

has anyone tried prying off the mirror on the k750 backplate? I'm thinking of replacing it with the orange mirror from the 810 backplate. if it doesn't fit.. I'll glue it lol. Because I'm trying to figure a way of give the back some sort of orange accent to match the rest of the phone.

Posted by: UCLAKoolman

@glorfingal: thanks a lot for the tutorial on this mod. I just ordered the components from cnn.cn, and am looking forward to putting it together!

Even though this mod will ensure proper lens protection, I'm more excited about having a unique-looking w810 by the time Cingular releases it.

Posted by: glorfingal

@uclakoolman - you're welcome dude.

@lawman - the orange one on the 810 back is the cover plate for the external aerial - so
you'll end up cutting it about and glueing it onto the 750 back.

Posted by: p51d007

Since it is coming from overseas, anyone who's purchased from cnn.cn tell
how long it takes for an order (k750i case) to arrive in the USA?

Posted by: glorfingal

@p51d .... honk kong to uk in 5 days.

Posted by: p51d007

thanks, it's just been a week for me, might take longer to go through US
customs...everything coming in takes longer since Sept 11th

Posted by: agraham

Could you use the W800 backplate too?

edit... http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=926442

Posted by: glorfingal

i was toying with the 800 back, but couldn't get it in black so opted for the 750,
as I didn't get hold of an 800 cover I can't confirm/deny how easy it is to mod,
unlike the 750 ! If it uses the same clip/tabs locations as the 750 back then it
will be a fairly easy mod.

Posted by: _LawmaN_

Well I finally added the orange mirror to the backing now:

It was a pain in the @$$ to remove the rubber backing from the old w810 antenna cover. Luckily it was exactly the same diameter as the original k750 one. Then I just glued it to the back.

Posted by: phattbam

nice mod.. Was it hard to remove that piece?

Posted by: _LawmaN_

Quote:

Originally Posted by phattbam

nice mod.. Was it hard to remove that piece?

The hardest part was just trying to hold the piece while I cut the rubber backing off it. What I resorted to doing was laying the mirror on its shiny edge and stabbing the rubber with one of my tiny screwdrivers. Then slice the rubber off it the same way you would fillet a fish lol.

The original mirror comes off the same way the orb logo comes off. On the inside of the cover there is a tiny hole in the area where the mirror sits. Just poke a needle through it and it will come off. The original glue holding it isn't that strong.

Posted by: glorfingal

@lawman - cheers for that insight ...... where's that scalpel gone :-)

Posted by: phattbam

must do this mod once the white w810i housings are released.. gonna be clean

Posted by: glorfingal

ooooohhhhh - white housing mod - I MUST HAVE :-)

Posted by: gbadude

Is it hard to do these the back housing mod? I just got my 810i last night, but I saw the pictures of the mods and it looks gorgeous. I want to do it, but I'm afraid of messing up.

Posted by: kenken325

Quote:

Originally Posted by gbadude

Is it hard to do these the back housing mod? I just got my 810i last night, but I saw the pictures of the mods and it looks gorgeous. I want to do it, but I'm afraid of messing up.

no worries everything is just simple and easy. if u're in Vancouver BC i dun mind giving u a hand

Posted by: phattbam

Quote:

Originally Posted by glorfingal

ooooohhhhh - white housing mod - I MUST HAVE :-)

I went the short route and should be getting my aftermarket white w810i housing soon. along with my K750i white housing too. I'll post pics and perhaps a DIY if you guys/gals would like.. I think it's been posted already though. It's gonna be slightly different than most would think.. just sit back and wait... I'm anxious to get them in the mail.

Posted by: supermauerbros

So where are you getting your white housings from? Cnn.cn only has black w810 housings and only black and silver for the k750. Ebay?

Posted by: phattbam

yeah. I posted that I went the aftermarket route for now. Waiting for the official white w810i to release and someone track down a white k750i which I have yet to find. I just hope the two housings match up in color. Yes they are both white but the finish might be different. wish me luck. I'll post up results since another member has done the DIY for it. unless someone wants me to do it with pics?

Posted by: UCLAKoolman

Just modded my w810... piece of cake.

Posted by: phattbam

Quote:

Originally Posted by UCLAKoolman

Just modded my w810... piece of cake.

any pics??

Posted by: sake_yo

To all those that converted to the k750 lens cover does your cover screatch your lens? I tried placing it on but I couldn't, for the life of me, close the cover b/c it would just hit the lens. Was there a step I was missing? Thanks for any help.

Posted by: glorfingal

@all - I see there's silver as well as white (and some other tacky colours) available
now !!!

@sake_yo - the sliding cover is ABOVE the lens protector and the lens itself so it can't
get anywhere close ! Post some pics of what you've got .... and have a look at
post 16 on page 2 - the picture of mine.

Posted by: UCLAKoolman

Posted by: gbadude

Well that last picture is just a huge tease! Look at the beautiful phone on top of the beautiful... o.O

I mean uhh nice phone.

Posted by: sake_yo

I managed to get the back cover on and the lens cover can open and close but it seems to get caught in the middle when closing. It'll close with a lil more effort but just wondering if anyone else has this problem. Wondering if the spring (that's connected to the back and the lens cover) is getting caught? Anyways, I can't seem to upload the pic but any help would be appreciated. Thanks

Posted by: gdong

Yep I got the same problem. When I open it's fine but when I close it feels like there's a small hump half way that I need to overcome.

Posted by: glorfingal

That'll be the spring going over "dead centre". This allows the same spring to hold
the slide in either open or closed position. Take the cover back off and
watch the mechanism as you slide the lens cover open and shut.

Posted by: sake_yo

Thanks for your help. I understand what you mean by "dead center" as I've seen the spring in the back. But it feels like an obstruction...as if the spring is stuck on something. i have to use considerably more force to close it past the halfway part after it gets stuck. I just don't get what's it's stuck too as the battery is right underneath. Anyways, I appreciate the help. I'd lilke it to be perfect but I can live with it now.

Posted by: gdong

I wouldn't say mine requires "considerably more force" to close. This is a "problem" that I'm perfectly content with.

Posted by: phattbam

nice to see some pics of the mod.. I can't wait to get mine in.

Posted by: glorfingal

@sake_yo and gdong .....

Just took the back off mine again and had a look. I can't see anything the slide spring
(or its associated parts) would be catching on .... Wonder if the sticking ones are non-
oem and therefore slightly different design ????

Posted by: phattbam

so the non OEM ones have this "bump" while sliding the lens cover? I thought the problem was that it scratches the lens. can't see that happening from the pics. the lens seems to be recessed in the housing.

Posted by: slim724

An outstanding and easy mod! Whenever I was on the phone, my right index finger would always find its way into the hole on the back and smudging the lens! Not any more! Excellent quality backplate from cnn.cn. Hardest part was removing rubber from the back of the orange mirror, that took ten minutes by itself using a scalpel blade! I also used the black speaker mesh from original backplate, it has a much finer mesh than nylon and already had adhesive lining the edge.

Posted by: phattbam

have any pics slim724?

Posted by: gdong

It's definitely not scratching the lens because the lens is recessed by quite a bit.

Posted by: slim724

How do you post larger pics? I cannot post the pics because the files are too large.

Posted by: slim724

I should've cleaned the mirrors first, but it was late.

Posted by: slim724

ok I must be doing something wrong, I can only attach a link to 1 tiny pic that I resized. Somebody please help.

Posted by: gdong

imageshack.us

Posted by: koshiw

Question for you modding experts.

1. What about the LED lights, does the k750 backplate obstruct the original LED lighting or are they perfectly matched? Just making sure before I order from cnn.cn.

2. Is it necessary to use adhesives or just the screws will hold the backplate securely? If I use adhesive, not sure if it can be taken off easily later.

Posted by: UCLAKoolman

Quote:

Originally Posted by koshiw

Question for you modding experts.

1. What about the LED lights, does the k750 backplate obstruct the original LED lighting or are they perfectly matched? Just making sure before I order from cnn.cn.

2. Is it necessary to use adhesives or just the screws will hold the backplate securely? If I use adhesive, not sure if it can be taken off easily later.

1. The k750 backplate does not obstruct the original LED. (I just blinded myself while double checking)

2. It is not necessary to use any adhesive for this mod. The backplate fits snug and securely.

Posted by: koshiw

Great, thanks UCLAKoolman. Will be letting my friends with w810 know about this cool mod as well

Posted by: slim724

First 2 were taken with mirror, which causes the slight double exposure, and the mirrors were dirty. The third pic is dismantled W810i backplate, so I could use the original mesh for speaker grill.

http://img128.imageshack.us/my.php?...dsc00158fb6.jpg
http://img214.imageshack.us/my.php?...dsc00159wr5.jpg
http://img214.imageshack.us/my.php?...dsc00165xi3.jpg

Posted by: UCLAKoolman

that picture of the dismantled backplate looks really sad to me... where are my meds?

Posted by: the watcher 23

i read through the thead and found a few ppl asked the Q but dind't see a clear answer. since the 3 speaker holes are covered up with the K750 backplate wouldn't it muffle the sound?
some guy said it didn't but then where the sound come out of?

Posted by: the watcher 23

Quote:

Originally Posted by the watcher 23

i read through the thead and found a few ppl asked the Q but dind't see a clear answer. since the 3 speaker holes are covered up with the K750 backplate wouldn't it muffle the sound?
some guy said it didn't but then where the sound come out of?

forget my Q i didn't see the speaker holes in the K750 plates

Posted by: EX5TASY

sweet mod! i'm really considering doing this mod, however coming from a k750i, it will be kind of boring to me if my w810 looks the same.. obviously the lens can get kinda scratched up from normal use, but i heard somewhere that it doesnt affect the quality of the pictures. any truth to that?

also, are all the things on cnn.cn OEM? i'm thinking about just buying their silver k750i backcover for 12 bucks

Posted by: schumy7

I found this item on ebay which is considerably cheaper than others. Has anyone got this?

gdong has asked the same question and no follow up. So I'm wondering if it is any good. ie. Is the sliding part plastic or metal? does it have the spring problem?

http://cgi.ebay.com/OEM-Sony-Ericss...1QQcmdZViewItem

Posted by: the watcher 23

Quote:

Originally Posted by schumy7

I found this item on ebay which is considerably cheaper than others. Has anyone got this?

gdong has asked the same question and no follow up. So I'm wondering if it is any good. ie. Is the sliding part plastic or metal? does it have the spring problem?

http://cgi.ebay.com/OEM-Sony-Ericss...1QQcmdZViewItem

anyone know if i would get charged duty if i get this sent to me by registered mail?

Posted by: AsianChexMix

I also did the mod today but that slider is getting stuck. I bought mine off ebay (same price as cnn.cn) and he said it was OEM parts. I installed it and looks hot. Can we say pocketable now?

Posted by: MrDisco1

Quote:

Originally Posted by AsianChexMix

I also did the mod today but that slider is getting stuck. I bought mine off ebay (same price as cnn.cn) and he said it was OEM parts. I installed it and looks hot. Can we say pocketable now?

so are you saying the one you bought on ebay doesn't work properly?

Posted by: the watcher 23

Quote:

Originally Posted by schumy7

ordered this one finally, will let you guys know how it works out

Posted by: MrDisco1

heh think black and red would look good?

http://cgi.ebay.com/OEM-Sony-Ericss... QQcmdZViewItem

Posted by: schumy7

Quote:

Originally Posted by the watcher 23

ordered this one finally, will let you guys know how it works out

Thx man. Waiting for good news

Posted by: getagrip15

Does anyone have a DIY guide for disassembling the W810's housing? I've been thinking about doing this mod, but now I'm thinking about waiting and just replacing the whole housing with a new white one once they are available( sometime within a week from cnn.cn)

Posted by: phattbam

I just took mine apart and did a full non OEM white on it.. didnt bother taking pics but I was very careful in removing ribbons and connections.

Posted by: getagrip15

Quote:

Originally Posted by phattbam

I just took mine apart and did a full non OEM white on it.. didnt bother taking pics but I was very careful in removing ribbons and connections.

Do mind posting some pics of the finished product?

Posted by: Daemos

I just did it today

easy easy easy, I used sandpaper after using a knife, so I could smooth things out.

Only issues is the mirror on the backplate I have is kinda messed up, but no big

Anyone want to send me their silver mirror if they arn't using it?

Posted by: Steady Eddie

Hi,

I have a couple of questions...

1. How much nylon do you need to stick on? One sheet?

2. Is there any other material that is better to use than nylon?

3. Can't you just use the w810 battery cover with the K750 back plate? This would solve the problem with the k750 battery cover being a slightly different colour to the rest of the phone.

Thanks a lot.

Posted by: glorfingal

@steady - you don't have to use the nylon (and only a tiny amount 25mm x 15mm) as
it's really a dust guard. You can't use the 810 battery cover s it has a different joint
face. The 750 back is straight across the battery cover joint and the 810 is wavy.

Posted by: djego

hey can you plz repost the link for the manual, the last link has exceeded its download limit

thanks

Posted by: supermauerbros

Quote:

Originally Posted by phattbam

I just took mine apart and did a full non OEM white on it.. didnt bother taking pics but I was very careful in removing ribbons and connections.

I need some clarification. Instead of adding a white aftermarket k750 backplate to a white w810, you purchased an entire white aftermarket w810 housing?
If that's the case I'm bummed. I really wanted to know if housings like this would match with Sony's OEM white color. Either way, post some pics and let us know where you purchased your housing.

Posted by: phattbam

ebay... sold the phone. but I did take some quick pics..

Posted by: the watcher 23

i'm getting the back plate to do the mod soon, but what can i use to clean the lense before doing the mod because there is some dust on it right and i don't want to damage the lense.

Posted by: phattbam

microfiber towel

Posted by: shadowgerm

is this mod interchangeable? My GF got the k750 so if we were to swap back covers... hybrid technology!

Posted by: glorfingal

the only mod's are to the 750i back cover, and they are minor so it'll pop back onto
the 750 or the 810 with equal ease and snugness :-)

Posted by: Ben-

Just a thought, for those who did this mod, is it possible to trade/sell my the orange mirror on the back of your w810?

Posted by: y2bandit

I plan to do this mod when i get my w810i in October (once my nextel contract is over), but I would like to know..if I was on the phone would the cover slide open easily or do it require a little force? I ask because if I'm on the phone, I dont want to accidently open the cover thus exposing it.

Posted by: phattbam

it shouldnt slide that easily. it 'clicks' into the lock position.

Posted by: y2bandit

Thanks. I noticed that cnn.cn, has the silver k750 housing. Would the color match the white w810 or at least come close to it? My gf plans on getting the white

Posted by: _LawmaN_

Quote:

Originally Posted by y2bandit

Thanks. I noticed that cnn.cn, has the silver k750 housing. Would the color match the white w810 or at least come close to it? My gf plans on getting the white

why dont you use the w800 back cover, its already pretty close to white and it will fit just the same.

Posted by: glorfingal

Now the fun is really going to start.
Which colour combination to go for white, black, silver, mix of all three :-)
Then there's which back cover and what colour .... decisions, decisions !!!!!

I think silver middle, black 810 front with white buttons, black 750 back ... or .....

Posted by: y2bandit

Quote:

Originally Posted by _LawmaN_

why dont you use the w800 back cover, its already pretty close to white and it will fit just the same.

Because I want a cover that covers the lens that is like the k750. Since the w800 doesnt have a cover for the lense, theres no need to swap it on the w810

Posted by: phattbam

just have a blast and make sure the fitment doesn't give you any issues.

Posted by: phattbam

actually I think the w800 has a small lens cover that discretely slides over it.

Posted by: y2bandit

Hmmm...thanks.

Posted by: dav

Quote:

Originally Posted by phattbam

actually I think the w800 has a small lens cover that discretely slides over it.

It is also the world's worst lens cover. Every time I take the phone out of my pocket it opens. Sigh!

Posted by: y2bandit

Quote:

Originally Posted by dav

It is also the world's worst lens cover. Every time I take the phone out of my pocket it opens. Sigh!

Hmmm..got me thinking now.

BTW, how easy it to take the back cover of the w810 off? Do I need the pry tool?

Posted by: p51d007

Just got my 750i cover from cnn.cn Start to finish, took about 15 minutes.
Easy mod, two screws, then I used the edge of a knife to pop the sides
loose, and then rotate the back up and off. Couple of minutes to whittle
down the tab on the 750 cover, pop it back on, replace the screws, sim
card, battery and snap on the 750 battery cover and done. Easiest mod
I've ever done. I've seen some threads where you need to put a grill over
the speaker area. Mine came with a fine mesh on inside back cover where
the speaker sits. Not sure if the original covers or maybe it was the non
OEM covers that didn't have these, but at least mine did.

Posted by: glorfingal

@y2bandit - nope, it's a synch - you can just about do it with a finger nail, but a pry
is easier.

Posted by: y2bandit

Quote:

Originally Posted by p51d007

Just got my 750i cover from cnn.cn Start to finish, took about 15 minutes.
Easy mod, two screws, then I used the edge of a knife to pop the sides
loose, and then rotate the back up and off. Couple of minutes to whittle
down the tab on the 750 cover, pop it back on, replace the screws, sim
card, battery and snap on the 750 battery cover and done. Easiest mod
I've ever done. I've seen some threads where you need to put a grill over
the speaker area. Mine came with a fine mesh on inside back cover where
the speaker sits. Not sure if the original covers or maybe it was the non
OEM covers that didn't have these, but at least mine did.

Hmmm..hopefully when I order mine, it will come with the mesh. As for popping the sides, any specific area such as the location of the tabs or something?

Posted by: y2bandit

Quote:

Originally Posted by glorfingal

@y2bandit - nope, it's a synch - you can just about do it with a finger nail, but a pry
is easier.

Thanks. I was thinking of getting the pry but if I dont need it, I wont spend the $4-7 on it.

Posted by: blueb0x

just ordered the 750i housing, cant wait

from cnn.cn after a few declines of my card and the bank calling me from their fraud dept. they manually let the charge go through. anyways thanks for all the info guys, i just bought my w810i and i dont want the camera lens to get messed up.

Posted by: B0000rt

Question about something I'm planning to do.

The differences between the battery cover of K750 and W810, could you dremel the W810 battery cover so that it doesn't curve upwards on the edges, and use that with a K750 back plate?

Or is the inner part (the thinnest part) of the W810 battery cover smaller than the length of the K750 battery cover?

Posted by: gbadude

man I want to mod my phone so badly. I want a 750i housing on my w810i! The problem is I don't have the tools to mod it. And I'm in college with no, it's hard to go out and buy the materials.

Posted by: B0000rt

Tools? All you need is a small Philips head screw driver. The back cover is only $7.99 and the battery cover is only $3.99 at www.cnn.cn ... Shipping is $5.

$16.98 total. I'm sure you spend more than that on beer in a week.

Posted by: glorfingal

@boooort - no you can't - at the longest the 810i cover is the same length as the
750's - to make it match the 750 back you'd have to ADD material on .....

Posted by: B0000rt

Quote:

Originally Posted by glorfingal

@boooort - no you can't - at the longest the 810i cover is the same length as the
750's - to make it match the 750 back you'd have to ADD material on .....

Ah that totally sucks, the battery cover for the W810i is more fitting to the phone

Posted by: a9ballbr8k

Quote:

Originally Posted by B0000rt

Tools? All you need is a small Philips head screw driver. The back cover is only $7.99 and the battery cover is only $3.99 at www.cnn.cn ... Shipping is $5.

$16.98 total. I'm sure you spend more than that on beer in a week.

Most likely true......hmmmm......beer....case....beer....case. ......BEER!! LOL

Posted by: p51d007

Quote:

Originally Posted by y2bandit

Hmmm..hopefully when I order mine, it will come with the mesh. As for popping the sides, any specific area such as the location of the tabs or something?

The tabs are easy to pop. I just used a thin screwdriver, and started gently
prying the edges starting at the holes for the screws. It will be easy once
you see how it fits together to figure out where to pry. Don't sweat it.
It is like any electronic device that has friction locking tabs. A gentle tug
and they will pop right off. I popped the left & right side, then you can "unhinge" it from the bottom up, popping off the tabs on the top of the back
cover.

Posted by: w810inewb

Quote:

Originally Posted by phattbam

ebay... sold the phone. but I did take some quick pics..

hey, how is the colour difference between the k750 silver back cover and the w810 white front?
also, your k750 battery cover seems a little off, is that just the picture?.

please and thanks.

Posted by: B0000rt

Quote:

Originally Posted by w810inewb

hey, how is the colour difference between the k750 silver back cover and the w810 white front?
also, your k750 battery cover seems a little off, is that just the picture?.

please and thanks.

HIs K750 back cover isn't a real one, it's not oem. Just look at the SE symbol

Posted by: phattbam

Quote:

Originally Posted by B0000rt

HIs K750 back cover isn't a real one, it's not oem. Just look at the SE symbol

correct, plus it's all white... poor lighting. But it's long gone to another person now. I'm looking to maybe get a fusion white w810i soon. After my 8801 comes through. I'll decide if I miss the w810 or not.

Posted by: Willbur

hey guys, i wanna mount a k750 backcover on, but i wanna paint the sliding camera cover black. what's the best kind of paint to use?

Posted by: peryus88

Quote:

Originally Posted by Willbur

hey guys, i wanna mount a k750 backcover on, but i wanna paint the sliding camera cover black. what's the best kind of paint to use?

Automotive paint. Also try lexan paint, it's normally used for RC's.

Posted by: MrDisco1

are people still having issues with their orders from cnn or should i just pickup a backplate from ebay?

Posted by: mikysee

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrDisco1

are people still having issues with their orders from cnn or should i just pickup a backplate from ebay?

I ordered mine on 8/24 and I got them 9/5. So it took about 12 days.

Posted by: sst_

Are the speakers covered by the faceplate??

Posted by: mayoke

a friend told me he had problems with dust getting on the inside of the screen when he modded another phone (not w810i) by changing the entire housing... is this an issue here? Does removing the back faceplate undo some sort of airtight seal that prevents dust from getting onto the screen? Is adding the mesh necessary to protect from dust or is it being overly precautious?

Posted by: glorfingal

@sst - not entirely (and not enough to affect sound)

@mayoke - no seal break - and yes the mesh is purely for the "paranoid" :-)

Posted by: mayoke

excellent! just finished the mod! my first ever! works like a charm! didn't put in the stockings/mesh

Posted by: tha_dream

i really like how these k750 backplates look on the w810. i wanted to see if there was any way that i could get the silver middle part along with the 750 backplate to fit on my 810. has anyone done this before? apparently the backplate isnt too hard to do, but i dont think anyone has mentioned about the middle piece. also, are the ebay auctions such as thisebay auction the real oem parts or are the rip offs? any help would be great. thanks

Posted by: y2bandit

http://www.cnn.cn

Posted by: phattbam

Quote:

Originally Posted by tha_dream

i really like how these k750 backplates look on the w810. i wanted to see if there was any way that i could get the silver middle part along with the 750 backplate to fit on my 810. has anyone done this before? apparently the backplate isnt too hard to do, but i dont think anyone has mentioned about the middle piece. also, are the ebay auctions such as thisebay auction the real oem parts or are the rip offs? any help would be great. thanks

once you can find the piece it's just a matter of carefully removing the board and ribbons. I've done it.. it's stuck on pretty tight with the adhesive they used.

Posted by: agraham

As requested earlier, here's my W810i with the 750 backplate, silver middle part and silver buttons.

Ghetto fabulous!

Please excuse the crappy screen protector. I cut down a PSP protector and taped it on until I get a real one.

edit: 750, not 790

Posted by: phattbam

typo ^ 750 backplate..

Posted by: tha_dream

looks fantastic...i think im gonna get the silver middle piece, might also get the silver keypad too, but i may just stick with the black.

Posted by: tha_dream

i just wanna make sure i am getting the right part for the silver middle piece...on cnn.cn it is called the middleplate, correct?

Posted by: y2bandit

Where did you get the silver buttons? I assume its aftermarket?

Posted by: B0000rt

Has some with a W810 w/ K750 back plate tried to buy a crystal case for the phone (obviously a w810 front w/ k750 back) yet?

Posted by: agraham

Quote:

Originally Posted by tha_dream

i just wanna make sure i am getting the right part for the silver middle piece...on cnn.cn it is called the middleplate, correct?

Yeah. This is the middleplate:
http://cnn.cn/shop/sonyericsson-k75...late-p-425.html

Don't make my mistake and buy it if you're buying the complete 750 faceplate set, because it comes with the middleplate anyway. That's $1 US down the drain, which is like $1.20 Canadian.

All that money.

Down the drain.

*sigh* I could have bought one fourth of a mocha frappuchino with that money.

Posted by: agraham

Quote:

Originally Posted by y2bandit

Where did you get the silver buttons? I assume its aftermarket?

No, they are actually K510i buttons.
http://cnn.cn/shop/sonyericsson-k51...ypad-p-830.html

I wouldn't recommend them tho. They look the same as the W810i buttons on the site, but actually they are about 5mm farther apart so you have to cut them from the sheet, and they are about 2mm too tall so you have to shave the rubber off of them except where they contact the switches and they are about a micron too narrow so they have a bit of play in the holes. You can see in the picture that they don't sit perfectly straight in the holes.
And after all that they are hard plastic too instead of rubbery like the W810 buttons so they aren't as tactile.
I should probably put the black ones back in, but gosh darn it we have to suffer a bit for fashion's sake, don't we?

Posted by: glorfingal

@b0000rt - had one case for the 810 and a friend had a 750 version.
The clips don't line up unfortunately.

Posted by: y2bandit

Quote:

Originally Posted by agraham

Thanks for the heads up. I guess I'll leave it black.

Posted by: B0000rt

Quote:

Originally Posted by glorfingal

@b0000rt - had one case for the 810 and a friend had a 750 version.
The clips don't line up unfortunately.

Ah thanks, but are they different 'brands'?

Posted by: a9ballbr8k

@agraham

So it's safe to assume you can use the silver 750 middle plate on the 810 guts? How hard was it to transfer the board over to the 750 plate? I have seen some complete housings in silver color for the 810 on ebay. I emailed the guy to see if he would just sell me the keypad. If anyone else is interested let me know and I'll get the info for ya. I want my phone to have black front, silver middle, black 750 backplate with orange mirror. I think this is the best color combo just like agraham has. Get back to me soon agraham if you can I cant wait to get my 810 tuesday and I will be ordering the parts from cnn.cn and from that guy on ebay.

Posted by: a9ballbr8k

Oh yeah and was that a GUN in the pic you took of your 810. I see the hammer.

Posted by: P'cisT

If anyone is modding their W810i with the silver middle housing, and would like to sell their existing black one, let me know as I am interested.

Posted by: phattbam

Quote:

Originally Posted by P'cisT

If anyone is modding their W810i with the silver middle housing, and would like to sell their existing black one, let me know as I am interested.

I have a full OEM housing if you're interested. PM if you are.

Posted by: phattbam

Quote:

Originally Posted by a9ballbr8k

@agraham

So it's safe to assume you can use the silver 750 middle plate on the 810 guts? How hard was it to transfer the board over to the 750 plate? I have seen some complete housings in silver color for the 810 on ebay. I emailed the guy to see if he would just sell me the keypad. If anyone else is interested let me know and I'll get the info for ya. I want my phone to have black front, silver middle, black 750 backplate with orange mirror. I think this is the best color combo just like agraham has. Get back to me soon agraham if you can I cant wait to get my 810 tuesday and I will be ordering the parts from cnn.cn and from that guy on ebay.

the middle housings should be the same. they appear to be interchangeable with an exception of a tab or two.

Posted by: agraham

Quote:

Originally Posted by a9ballbr8k

I used this guide for disassembling a K750i:
http://forums.se-nse.net/index.php?showtopic=1195
It's pretty much the same as the W810i.
It's not difficult. If you've ever added ram to a laptop you've done half the job. The toughest part for me was just getting the front plate off without forcing anything.
The whole job took me at least a couple of hours I think, but I was very gentle and meticulous.
Oh, and the guide doesn't mention how to get the mem stick cover off. It has a sort of arrowhead that sticks through a slot in the middleplate. Compress it from one side with a flat screwdriver and you can pull it out.
Since you'll be using the back and middle from the K750i, you won't have to mod the middleplate to make it fit the back, however the front plate matches the 750 middle only 99%. You will have to make a little notch in the middle plate at the top near the power button to accomodate a tiny flange on the 810 front. It's no problem. In fact, I couldn't find my exacto, so I did it with a steak knife and it was still dead simple, and as long as you dont let the knife mar the ******d facing edge you can butcher the inside edge and noone will ever see it.
One potential drawback of the 750 middleplate is that it doesn't have the walkman logo on it. Someone on this board has a hybrid with a silver middleplate that does have the logo, but I'm not sure which phone it came from.

Posted by: phattbam

wow.. a couple hours?? I guess didn't care when I did the full k750 housing swap yesterday. I just pulled everything off and put it back in like 15mins.

Posted by: agraham

Quote:

Originally Posted by a9ballbr8k

Oh yeah and was that a GUN in the pic you took of your 810. I see the hammer.

Desert Eagle baby! Fo' bustin' caps in suckaz dat try to jack mah W810i!
Actually just airsoft, but I could bust an airsoft pellet in dey azz and make da painful weltz and bruizez.
W810i in da hizzie!

Posted by: agraham

Quote:

Originally Posted by phattbam

wow.. a couple hours?? I guess didn't care when I did the full k750 housing swap yesterday. I just pulled everything off and put it back in like 15mins.

Yeah, I'd just got the phone, and I had visions of tearing up hundred dollar bills everytime I heard little crack.

Posted by: glorfingal

@agraham - a phantom or razor back are much, much better for fending off would be
810 thieves, especially at .68 cal :-)

Posted by: craft_deception

hey I'd like to do this mod as well--except I want to use the red k750i backplate. cnn.cn doesnt seem to have it, so i guess ill have to get it from ebay--can anyone recommend a seller? I guess i'm looking for the best fake here. thanks alot!

Posted by: y2bandit

I'm going to be ordering the k750 backing for my soon to be purchased w810i. I want to change the mirror from the silver on the k750 to the orange. How easy is it to pop out the mirror? And to make it stick, crazy glue should be used?

Posted by: p51d007

The orange one is a "button", the orange is glued/stuck to a white piece of plastic.
I think you would have to figure out how to get that off first. Personally, I left the silver
on, since 99% of the time it's covered up with the 750i lens cover...but to each his
own. Enjoy your w810i with the 750i back cover. I haven't heard anyone that has
the w810i that does not like it, me included

Posted by: y2bandit

Quote:

Originally Posted by p51d007

The orange one is a "button", the orange is glued/stuck to a white piece of plastic.
I think you would have to figure out how to get that off first. Personally, I left the silver
on, since 99% of the time it's covered up with the 750i lens cover...but to each his
own. Enjoy your w810i with the 750i back cover. I haven't heard anyone that has
the w810i that does not like it, me included

I ask because cnn.cn sells it for 0.99

Posted by: glorfingal

I bought one so I could still have the original back in stock form when (if ever)
I sell my beloved 810i.
Also got a white oem housing so we'll see what sort of mix and match I can come
up with :-)

Posted by: gbadude

so what exactly are the tools that you'll need to do the mod? i ordered the parts, and received them a few days ago, but my T6 screw driver didn't arrive.

Posted by: n8_da_gr8

Does anyone know if you can fit a front w810i crystal (hard plastic) case with a back k790 piece? I'd like to do this mod, but want to use a crystal case for protection.

Any feedback would be appreciated... it looks like to would work with certain cases... some cases look different than others....

Posted by: y2bandit

Quote:

Originally Posted by n8_da_gr8

Does anyone know if you can fit a front w810i crystal (hard plastic) case with a back k790 piece? I'd like to do this mod, but want to use a crystal case for protection.

Any feedback would be appreciated... it looks like to would work with certain cases... some cases look different than others....

No. This was mentioned in one of the threads. even if you took the crystal case of the w810i and k750 and mix and matched (front plastic of w810i and back plastic of k750), it wouldnt fit as the joints that connect to each other are different (in location I think).

Posted by: griffin7

Why has no one ever responded to questions posted here on whether or not the k750 "OEM" housings sold on ebay by china_store are really OEM or not?! It's been asked multiple times and some said they ordered and would compare but no word.
Thanks.

Posted by: agraham

Quote:

Originally Posted by gbadude

so what exactly are the tools that you'll need to do the mod? i ordered the parts, and received them a few days ago, but my T6 screw driver didn't arrive.

A T6, a jeweler's phillips and a credit card.

Posted by: sst_

is a T6 the one with 6 points and looks like a star, cuzz the screws on the back of my w810 r just really small cross head screws,

Posted by: Ben-

@sst_
yeah the t6 is a 6 point star screw head piece.

For those who ordered a k750 plate set from cnn.cn, did it come with that fine mesh over the speaker grill and the earpiece grill?
Well mine didn't so i have to add my own mesh (thinking of cutting up a piece of nylon stocking and cover it up). Are there any other better subsitute objects to replace the mesh?

Opening the housing took me a long time too, i was too paranoid to scratch up my w800. The "cell phone opener" proved to be useless in prying open the front plate = =

Posted by: starman_dx

which one would look better??

just modding the back of my w810i with the k750i back
or
white w810i middle, front, keypad with silver k750i back...

Posted by: gbadude

so why do we need the T6?