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Posted by: BXNYC

Does anyone have any mobile games that you can only get exclusively from downloading from Vodafone? Is it possible to uplink them for download? I really want the INITIAL D 3 RESTORE game. INITIAL D ON YOUR PHONE? C'MON SOMEBODY, ANYBODY!



Posted by: lamplighter

BX.. I just looked on my phone in Voda.. live games and there is no game with that name ??
LL-



Posted by: BXNYC

>Vodafone live!>Menu list>Games>Racing>Initial D
(Only available in Japanese)



Posted by: lamplighter

Yeah, no luck mate.
The only thing that sounds close is one we have called:
The Fast & Furious- Tokyo Drift !!!
I'm more of a puzzle game person myself.

LL-



Posted by: foo_mark

He is talking about the Japanese Vodafone Live. Initial D is only available in Japan, which they actually preinstalled the game onto the 905SH. Somehow I am rather frustrated that we can't seem to get anybody to leak some content from Japan.



Posted by: UncleAllEvil

Well, there`s a trick that might be used to download games to computer from vodafone jp website (or any other pay site with games for mobile phones). However, somebody will have to pay for this game in order to download game first time. After game is downloaded once, I can host it on my web so anybody can download this game for free.

You will need Firefox with User Agent Switcher (UAS) extension v0.6.8+.
Than in UAS options you have to add new user (IE 6, Netscape 4.8 and Opera 8,51 are preset) that will be used to fake mobile phone.

OK, details for 902:
click on User Agents in options, than add
in Description type: Sharp902SH
in User Agent type: Vodafone/Sharp902SH/SHG002/1.0 Browser/UP.browser/7.0.2.1 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 Ext-J-Profile/JSCL-1.2.2 Ext-V-Profile/VSCL-2.0.0

When UAS is set, in Firefox Tools->User Agent Switcher menu change agent to Sharp902SH than go to website with games and you should be able to access mobile web site as Sharp 902 and download games through firefox now

Can anybody post link to vodafone live japan?



Posted by: dav34

http://ptl/menu/ for 902SH
But, I don't think it'll work, since they only let Vodafone Live! subscriber to access it... I think they have some kind of authentification when you access it... like they check your number or SIM card number...



Posted by: foo_mark

How can that even work, I don't mind paying for the games, just where does it prompt me to pay with my credit card? Ain't this is tied in with Vodafone JP's billing system. I mean if I decide to buy a game it would be billed straight onto my wireless statement instead of being directly to my credit card?

By the way, I did try last night with the whole User Agent thing using the Open Wave WAP Browser SDK and it didn't work for wap.box.panasonic.com which has a couple of QVGA game demos that you can download for free for your VS series phone. I tried to get into the site using panasonic's User Agent, which is right here: http://mobileinternet.panasonicbox....prof/VS3/R1.xml

Hey, I dunno, probably I am doing something wrong on my side when I try to use their User Agent Profile, but I certainly couldn't get to their log-in screen and download any demo content that I want. Try it out yourselves with Firefox and tell me how you did it, because I know the demo's they have on their site would work best on the Sharp handsets.



Posted by: BXNYC

I don't care how we're gonna do this. I'm willing to help pitch in for purchasing vodafone games as long as the people I'm sending $$$ to are trustworthy. We all need to team up and make this happen for real! I WANT THAT INITIAL D GAME DAMMIT!



Posted by: AL9999

I'm pretty sure the http://ptl/menu/ link is an internal intranet link, such an internet link isn't possible at all...



Posted by: totaltoanage

yeah japan has some really cool games, like resident evil. if you need money, i have some to spare. this needs to be a group effort.



Posted by: sketch143

i'm willing to chip in too.. =o

well..

once we confirm get the 904 unlocked and once timmy starts working on the sync function



Posted by: AL9999

Here's a link for you to try. I got it out of a QR Code in the Vodafone June catalogue.

Tetris Black by G-Mode:
http://vodafone.iwdasp.com/SC/0606012.php



Posted by: UncleAllEvil

Quote:
Originally Posted by foo_mark
How can that even work, I don't mind paying for the games, just where does it prompt me to pay with my credit card? Ain't this is tied in with Vodafone JP's billing system. I mean if I decide to buy a game it would be billed straight onto my wireless statement instead of being directly to my credit card?

When I think of this now, It will not work with voda KK site
Same situation is with "3" portal, you don`t have to send sms or pay with credit card, all expenses goes to your phone bill. That`s probably the main advantage of all 3G networks...
But it should work with sites where you`re paying for game via SMS and then you`re reciving link to game or code to download games. You have to do this on your phone first (to get link and code). You can download game, there`s always some period of time (usually 4-12h) when you can download same file again and again. I used that trick even in "3" network when I was putting my SIM card to my friends phone and he was downloading files that I bought before for free.

Well, I gave you only "tool", I mean UAS + 902 config, not full solution. Main idea came from russian site where they used this trick to download content for Motorola E1000. Now everybody has to think hard and try how to use this "tool" for Sharp phones

http://mobileinternet.panasonicbox....prof/VS3/R1.xml
I think this xml script is only checking if your phone is Panasonic VS3.



Posted by: Timsta

ahh.. this is what mark was talking about on msn last night. i'll chip it too.. i'll just juimmy's piggy bank for this



Posted by: dav34

Quote:
Originally Posted by AL9999
I'm pretty sure the http://ptl/menu/ link is an internal intranet link, such an internet link isn't possible at all...

That's true... but that's what the phone says and we can't really get the actual address...



Posted by: foo_mark

Anybody who is actually in japan that can fetch off the games and just synch it with their SD card? Or is it one of those forward-lock enabled games.



Posted by: UncleAllEvil

Sync function is not really the best way to get files.
Games in .jar can be used be any 3G Sharp (and Toshiba) user. Games in .huf can be used only for those with 903 and twisted fw. So I would like to see games in native java format.



Posted by: foo_mark

Right, actually JAR can be used on just about any device, just that the Sharp and Toshiba models are using a completely different java library to create their games. So I guess the only way is for someone who has an account in japan which can use the User Agent to trick the system from thinking that it's actually a real phone and we would just forward the money straight to the person who downloaded the entire batch of games.



Posted by: UncleAllEvil

I`ve never had java game created for Sharp. Games on my site are/has to be MIDP2 with no phone specific code because I always test them on emulator so they should work on any phone with QVGA screen. That`s probably why these 3D games aren`t using bilinear filtering

I have found interesting site but it`s in japanese and google translator is not good enough to translate this page so I can fully understand this. Maybe somebody will find some usefull information and share with us.

http://memories.cocolog-nifty.com/d...fone_902sh.html
http://translate.google.com/transla...Dof f%26sa%3DG

http://memories.cocolog-nifty.com/d.../12/post_6.html
http://66.249.93.104/translate_c?hl...Dof f%26sa%3DG

and more:
http://memories.cocolog-nifty.com/d...fone_902sh.html
http://66.249.93.104/translate_c?hl...Dof f%26sa%3DG

conclusion from this: User Agent profile that I`ve posted before is probably for euro 902 not japanese!



Posted by: scotttttttttt

Well, reading through that..

▼User Agentは?
Vodafone/1.0/V902SH/SHJ001/SN*************** Browser/UP.Browser/7.0.2.1 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 Ext-J-Profile/JSCL-1.2.2 Ext-V-Profile/VSCL-2.0.0
※「***」部分は端末IDなので伏せてあります。
とうとうUser AgentからJ-PHONEの文字が消えました(T_T)

I wonder if the SN********* is how they bill you? Match your serial number to your SIM from when you signed the contract? But then.. if you sold your phone, some other guy would DL games and it would go on your bill. Anyway, why else would you put a serial number in the User Agent field?



Posted by: UncleAllEvil

Thanks for translation

So billing system is checking phones IMEI in order to verify phone. This can be used as aditional security. We can try with random IMEI number for 902SH (in that case it has to be jap version).


On this site I`ve found another info about .HUF files:
http://www2.starcat.ne.jp/~empty/sh53/
http://translate.google.com/transla...Dof f%26sa%3DG

"As for the file where " .HUF " has been attached to the rear of the extension, those which are encoded by contract telephone number." (google translation)

Does this mean that huf files are somehow encoded using phone number?

Java SDK for vodafone phones:

http://66.249.93.104/translate_c?hl...Dof f%26sa%3DG
http://66.249.93.104/translate_c?hl...Dof f%26sa%3DG

Have to register in order to get this, can`t do this because I don`t speak japanese.

Interesting tools (for 3G Sharp users):
V application software development tools (JSCL 1.2.2 SDK) Ver1.0.1
V application software development tools (Sun Java Wireless toolkit for Vodafone VFX) Ver.20051111
Spy sea dog builder 3 for V application
and v-appli emu.

Interesting forum:
http://fc2bbs.com/bbs?uid=12744&c=1
http://translate.google.com/transla...Dof f%26sa%3DG
(again, for somebody who can read japanese)


Than now, how to get some huf files
http://66.249.93.104/translate_c?hl...Dof f%26sa%3DG
Kutar games:
http://66.249.93.104/translate_c?hl...Dof f%26sa%3DG

Have fun

What can I say about google translation?
Doesn`t have nothing in common with real translation...



Posted by: foo_mark

Actually, I have download those SDK's a long time ago already from the links that you have provided. From what I see, if you want the actual Upload tool, you would have to sign in as some publisher or developer with lots of money and serious business.

Those SDK's provide access to the JSCL libraries to most of these phones which gives you access to certain features not available in MIDP 2.0 such as Mascot Capsule 3D API, location based API and stuff accessing the external LCD display.



Posted by: Timsta

another develop on another thread was lookin for an emulator for sharp.. is there one?



Posted by: foo_mark

There is no emultor per se exactly for the Sharp devices, the Vodafone SDK comes with their generic model of an emulator made for their devices. If you want device specific, you might have to be part of their Global partner program or local developer program in order to receive those tools. Either than that, you can download the SDK on this site for free (just requires you to fill in a bit of information): http://developers.vodafone.jp/dp/



Posted by: Timsta

ahhh.. okay cool. i'll pass that along



Posted by: UncleAllEvil

foo_mark, looks like you are experienced in java so maybe you can give me an answer
I was wondering, is it possible to add a class that will enable bilinear filtering in java 3D games that weren`t designed for sharp but are working (like games on my site). It is possible to force game to run in different resolution and with different keymap so I`m curious if same can be done with this function.



Posted by: foo_mark

Unfortunatly my experience with JSR-184 (a.k.a Mobile 3D) is not there. At the moment our company is working on MIDP 2.0 2D games, we should be moving soon towards 3D in the next month. So I wouldn't be able to say for sure how would you do it. Faking it is out of the question (unless you have a lot of RAM or CPU power). Are you making your own 3D game or are you trying to hack a game to do Bilinear filtering ?



Posted by: UncleAllEvil

I`m not java developer. I`m just trying to hack game



Posted by: foo_mark

Hehe, then I suggest you use a Java Decompiler or Byte Code Generator. Look up for DJ Java Decompiler, it reveals the nice code in Java and you can rewrite the code and recompile back into bytecode classes and repack into the JAR.



Posted by: shimazu

does any one have any games at all on their phone? where can i download them? and how can i put them in my phone?



Posted by: kaizoku_san

Quote:
Originally Posted by shimazu
does any one have any games at all on their phone? where can i download them? and how can i put them in my phone?


Yes, many of us have games on our phones. Are you using a 903? Depending on which firmware version you have, there's a way to synch the phone with your memory card and play games in HUF format (if you can get ahold of them).

Otherwise, the normal way is to download them through WAP. If you want some, UncleAllEvil's site has 'em, I believe.



Posted by: UncleAllEvil

Always online
First site with older games, no actualization coz I forgot password to my account :P
http://republika.pl/sharp902/
new site, all new games comes here:
http://republika.pl/uncleallevil/



Posted by: Timsta

remember.. fi your downlaoding via wap.. altho the games are free. .the downloading is not



Posted by: UncleAllEvil

Quote:
Originally Posted by foo_mark
Hehe, then I suggest you use a Java Decompiler or Byte Code Generator. Look up for DJ Java Decompiler, it reveals the nice code in Java and you can rewrite the code and recompile back into bytecode classes and repack into the JAR.

Thanks for advice, I will look for those programs, maybe I will learn something new



Posted by: foo_mark

It's probably the taboo way of understanding or revealing industry secrets on how to create a game. But I normally do that during desperate measures and when I am currently can't afford to hire a pro.



Posted by: sketch143

I have an idea... i'm not sure if it's possible.. but with Tim's Sharp knowledge and modding skills and the number of java people we have here, i think we can all work on this...

I think.

Anyways.. you know how we have webpages in our hard drive.. and with the right address, we can access it on internet explorer.

YOu guys think this is possible with our sharp phones? O_o

Hosting wap files on the other documents folder and accessing it internally through opera,netfront or whatever browser the sharp phones have. i dunno, i think we can figure out the address if we check out code that directs the browser on where to save the downloaded applications to.

Iono, just something i thought of.. anyone wanna shoot down my idea with facts that i don't know of yet?



Posted by: dav34

http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=828422



Posted by: AL9999

Yeah it's been tried before but didn't work.



Posted by: sketch143

ah... i'm pwned then.. =\

lol.. =)



Posted by: sketch143

WAIT~! I know this problem!

=D

you guys are missing one more file that should translate what jar files are!!

i tried this before by hosting my own webpage and putting java games on it! it was online but it didn't work.. i did my research and i found out the i'm missing one more file that will make the html into a wapsite.. it'll translate jar files and what not so the phone can recognize it!

I remember this coz i got the same kinds of errors.. we can make this work people!

EDIT: oh wait.. nevemind.. read the whole thread.. xD gah.

EDIT mo ichiro!: I dunno if this will work but, i remember seeing a way to specify MIME types for jar and jad with the use of a *.htaccess file that you need to put in the main folder where the page is hosted...



Posted by: foo_mark

It would be nice to know how would you do it internally inside the site instead of the webserver, as I have heard about Sharp phones can actually read actually internal webpages inside the SDCard.



Posted by: sketch143

Exactly, they were able to do it.. but they the MIME type problem came up and i know that it can be solved! i can't do it myself since i don't have much java knowledge.. i need someone's help here

http://www.gamedev.net/community/fo...=59&gforum_id=0

use this for reference..

if we can just get all the right files into one folder in the other documents in the SD card.. we shouldn't get an error


Quote:
How directives are applied

The configuration directives found in a .htaccess file are applied to the directory in which the .htaccess file is found, and to all subdirectories thereof. However, it is important to also remember that there may have been .htaccess files in directories higher up. Directives are applied in the order that they are found. Therefore, a .htaccess file in a particular directory may override directives found in .htaccess files found higher up in the directory tree. And those, in turn, may have overridden directives found yet higher up, or in the main server configuration file itself.

Example:

In the directory /www/htdocs/example1 we have a .htaccess file containing the following:

Options +ExecCGI

(Note: you must have "AllowOverride Options" in effect to permit the use of the "Options" directive in .htaccess files.)

In the directory /www/htdocs/example1/example2 we have a .htaccess file containing:

Options Includes

Because of this second .htaccess file, in the directory /www/htdocs/example1/example2, CGI execution is not permitted, as only Options Includes is in effect, which completely overrides any earlier setting that may have been in place.




Posted by: foo_mark

Yah, but how can this even work locally on the SDCard? I mean this thing is not equiped with an IIS server or Apache server on board, cuz these settings are hardwired into the phone, unless you can do them directly through HTML, I do not see how you can circumvent this.

By the way, this has nothing to do with java knowledge, mostly need experienced HTML or experienced web coders that knows their syntax, cuz in order to have it work, the MIME has to be embbeded in the link and not in the server settings.



Posted by: sketch143

Quote:
Apache Configuration

* Apache web servers have two main places for configuration information:
o httpd Config files (typically located somewhere like /etc/httpd/)
o Per-directory .htaccess files
* Usually only the administrators of a server have access to the httpd config files. Individual users are able to place .htaccess files in their individual directories in order to override the options in the httpd config files.
* .htaccess files are reread upon every hit within that directory. In fact, the web server will look for these .htaccess files on every access to the web server.


=\ pretty self explanitory...

From what i understand, browser looks for the *.htaccess files everytime you load a page.. =\ i maybe wrong but iono



Posted by: sketch143

Quote:
Yah, but how can this even work locally on the SDCard? I mean this thing is not equiped with an IIS server or Apache server on board, cuz these settings are hardwired into the phone, unless you can do them directly through HTML, I do not see how you can circumvent this.


I just talked to someone who's experienced w/ webhosting and such and i've learned that you don't need a server to specify those MIME types. You can do it manually by putting the .htaccess file on every directory where the files are stored where, in this case, is the sd card. All the browsers check for this .htaccess file everytime a new page is loaded, i'm hoping that our built in browsers can do this as well. I'm still asking other web developers for more insight on this matter. =o

correct me if i'm wrong though, i'm not really knowledgable and i'm only absorbing what i understand.

Edit: ah, i guess it didn"t work.. =\



Posted by: sketch143

How about using metatags on xhtml document to specifiy MIME types? can this be done?



Posted by: Timsta

need more a web developer/server guru here



Posted by: UncleAllEvil

.htaccess file is not working and I didn`t expect this to work. This file works only when it`s sent from web server.
I`ve tried once to specify meta type for jar and jad but it didn`t worked. Maybe I did something wrong, I don`t know. Try, maybe you will find the way to do it right.

Here is example for MIME-MAPPING:

<wml>

<mime-mapping>
<extension>jad</extension>
<mime-type>text/vnd.sun.j2me.app-descriptor</mime-type>
</mime-mapping>

<mime-mapping>
<extension>jar</extension>
<mime-type>application/java-archive</mime-type>
</mime-mapping>

</wml>

but it`s not working
Any ideas?



Posted by: Timsta

well.. its good that you guys are tryin.. i don't have hte patience



Posted by: sketch143

i'm still trying, gah.. this is stressful... =\



Posted by: Timsta

hjaha. keep at it sid





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