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Posted by: inspector

I have had razr for the past year...and just got the d807 - I have it for free - TRUST ME - A VERY LONG STORY - in any case here is my opinion

Razr felt a LOT LOT sturdier - more of steel feel, solid phone feel - this one feels like a cheap plastic toy.

VERY VERY VERY low voice...can barely hear anything....I certainly think that motorola was much more louder.....

The menus are nicer...but all my life I have used motorola - and I know I will be shot down for say thins - I think the UI of motorola was more simpler...again - this can certainly be because of my experience with the motorola phones......

WHEN THE phone is closed - the bottom part sort of wobbles and the same thing happens to the top part when the phone is open......

I REALLY REALLY REALLY think that the phone has a very cheap feel to it.....
now my question is - since I have this for free...should I return this and keep my razr or keep this and return the razr...???

Posted by: nokia4life

keep using the razor and sell this one to ebay or craigslist or something...

Posted by: inspector

well - I got the 807 as a exchange for razr....

Posted by: cjmedina

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sell it to me

Posted by: I have a phone

So the V3 feels more sturdy? I'm interested to hear how you judge sturdiness. Please. Expound

Posted by: tdawgmd

Ihap--That's a pretty easy subjective measure --like driving a mercedes v. a kia--you know immediately which is more solid--No need for tests of tensile strength.

Posted by: inspector

well - i would beg to differ respectfully....first the phone itself feels heavier...and when I squeeze the phone - razr does not give way..and on to top it all - there is no wobbling present with razr...

when I hold the 807 - it feels like its a fake phone...especially the buttons on the top part of the slider....

Posted by: inspector

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Originally Posted by cjmedina

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sell it to me

I would love to but the problem is that then I won't have anything...its either I keep the 807 or razr...

Posted by: mb1

i think my d807 feels solid enough. i wasnt too happy with it being all plastic at first also, but now i absolutely love the phone.

Posted by: helpermonkey

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Originally Posted by tdawgmd

Ihap--That's a pretty easy subjective measure --like driving a mercedes v. a kia--you know immediately which is more solid--No need for tests of tensile strength.

It IS a very subjective matter. I can't say I agree with the original poster either. The D807 has some wobble to it as he mentioned, but I think that is due to design and not a big issue for me.

In your example it isn't a good comparison, the D807 is not a Kia and the V3 is not a Mercedes or the other way around. It might hold true if we we comparing a V3 and a free phone or go phone, but not here.

Posted by: Arden

I agree with the original poster and would like to add that the Razr's reception and sound quality is better.
Motorolas UI although dull and boring is alot simpler and straight forward but like the OP said maybe im just used to it.

that being said im not totally dissapointed in D807 it is growing on me and besides i wont be getting rid of my RAZR, i'll be using both so its ok.

Posted by: k3n85

I feel some of the same thoughts, mostly still on the issue of volume in the ear piece. As I really only use my phone for calls not too much msging/games/mp3 call quality is iffy sometimes but the sturdiness is okay.

Posted by: inspector

Now that you mention it - and I have had it for less than 24 hrs - I realize that the reception really is not up to par...and RAZR is much much better...even at places where I work - I used to get a couple of bars - with 807 - I can't even make any phone callls......

I don't know why but I remember reading that 807 was better than razr - I truly don't think so....

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Originally Posted by Arden

I agree with the original poster and would like to add that the Razr's reception and sound quality is better.
Motorolas UI although dull and boring is alot simpler and straight forward but like the OP said maybe im just used to it.

that being said im not totally dissapointed in D807 it is growing on me and besides i wont be getting rid of my RAZR, i'll be using both so its ok.

Posted by: chonga

motorola UI is simple and easier?!?!?!

hahahahahahahaa

a girl in my office just got a razr and she said for two days now she could not figure out how to change her ringtone. i don't blame her even though i've had motorola before so i could show her quickly. she still has to memorize the steps to get into there.

Posted by: Arden

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Originally Posted by chonga

motorola UI is simple and easier?!?!?!

hahahahahahahaa

a girl in my office just got a razr and she said for two days now she could not figure out how to change her ringtone. i don't blame her even though i've had motorola before so i could show her quickly. she still has to memorize the steps to get into there.

is she blond?

Posted by: tdawgmd

helper--you misunderstand the point. Point is, if you hold 2 phones, you know which one feels more solid in your hands. I'm not comparing samsungs to yugos etc--but if you buy a well made car, you know when you drive it that the build quality is better than other cars you've driven. It doesn't take car and driver road tests to figure that out--it's pretty immediate, and I dare say consistent between users. If you have a razr v. a 6102, you know immediately which one feels more well built.

To the OP--Razr's are solid, so it will be difficult to beat that feeling in any other phone in the cingular lineup.

Posted by: Scotty_T

I've only had the d807 for two days, but so far I prefer it over the Black Razr.

Feels solid to me, the UI is better and the camera is actually usable.

I wasn't expecting the RF to be better than the Razr (which is known to have great RF) and too soon to comment on the earpiece volume (I use bluetooth headset almost exclusively).

Don't think at all it has a cheap feel to it. My slider doesn't "wobble" either.

Posted by: chonga

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Originally Posted by Arden

is she blond?

no but it's not the most intuitive way to change the ringer either.

i mean to copy and paste a name from sim to phone is a journey itself.

don't even get me started with how slow the UI is either. granted symbian for nokia isn't the fastest thing, but it's much faster than moto.

Posted by: killah21

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Originally Posted by chonga

It's easy to do if your smart....

Posted by: killah21

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Originally Posted by Scotty_T

I've only had the d807 for two days, but so far I prefer it over the Black Razr.

Feels solid to me, the UI is better and the camera is actually usable.

I wasn't expecting the RF to be better than the Razr (which is known to have great RF) and too soon to comment on the earpiece volume (I use bluetooth headset almost exclusively).

Don't think at all it has a cheap feel to it. My slider doesn't "wobble" either.

Why don't you comment on that. Because everyone is saying that the earpiece volume is very low on your new phone.

Posted by: inspector

now after 24 hrs...its final...even the battery is not so great...so to cap it so far
1. not good batter
2. not good build quality
3. low volume
4. my opinion is biased as I have only used motos...the UI is not so great...
5 --..READY??????????????...today I just bent over to pick up the empty boxes at work - and the 807 got out of my pocket and fell on the concrete - about 1.5 feet above the ground...and THERE IS ALREADY A DENT ON IT...I have dropped razrs from greater height..and not a scratch.........
I think I am going to return it and ask for the razr after all ....

Posted by: Tjash2010

Yea I would have to agree with some of the things you pointed out --

It isnt very durable at all. I mean i set it down on a tile table and it made a few big scratchs on the back of it...I wasnt very happy about that. Also this thing slides open and shut to easily. I will be talking on it and it will fall on the floor when I am bending over and slide shut and hang up my call....

The earpiece volume is a little low. I wouldnt say alot for me, but defiently not as loud as it could be...

I own this, the razr and a C300 and i find myself only carrying this when I want to listen to my Mp3s. For times I think the phone might get damaged or stolen I use the C300 and for all other times which is 75% of the time I use my Razr.

Defiently not the best phone but I guess it works...

Posted by: Scotty_T

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Originally Posted by killah21

Why don't you comment on that. Because everyone is saying that the earpiece volume is very low on your new phone.

As a followup, the earpiece volume seems fine to me. I don't have any issues hearing with it.

When I'm driving, however, I always use a bluetooth headset because I drive a truck with a lot of road noise. Same thing I did with my Razr.

Its still early, but everything points to this being a nice upgrade over my Razr, and I can't see switching back.

Posted by: 0freespirit0

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Originally Posted by inspector

Now that you mention it - and I have had it for less than 24 hrs - I realize that the reception really is not up to par...and RAZR is much much better...even at places where I work - I used to get a couple of bars - with 807 - I can't even make any phone callls......

Sounds like you need to get a different phone then. If you can't use it where you need to, and you know it's the phone, then it's just not for you.

Posted by: calichik120

i find this phone's ear piece volume leaps and bounds better than my old v600. never had a razr and i never will, so i can't compare. but i don't think this phone is as bad as everyone says. haven't dropped it yet, but then again, i don't usually drop my phones.

Posted by: didefresh2006

The d807 might just have a few bugs in it like the razr did when it first came out. I think as long as you have insurance on the phone and the 1 year warranty (btw--purchase a leather case-i did and you can keep a phone in tip top shape longer and if you use a bluetooth headset, you're less likely to drop it) you'll be alright. I am still planning on purchasing the d807 phone because I had the razr for 1 year now and it's time for a phone upgrade.

I have looked at one lately and it is much sturdier than the p777 (which I had for about a month--then lost it), has better reception, a better speaker and looks a lot sleeker.

You might just need to switch phones or something. It's under your 30 day trial with cingular to trade phones. If you have the chance, get insurance. It's $3.99 a month and well worth it.

Posted by: inspector

well...the issue is this - I have razr..and due to many problems with it - they upgraded it to d807....now the question is do I really need to keep 807 or ask for a new razr kit..???

Posted by: tuolumne

One thing is for certain.

Samsung knocks Motorola out of the ballpark when it comes to the UserInterface of the D807. V3 can suck it, it is terrible in every dimension; Slow, ugly, unintuitive, old.

I happen to like the D807's build quality as well. The huge piece of cool to the touch alloy on the front feels great, as do the front key buttons. The rear is made of plastic, but it is very high quality, much moreso than the cheap garbage Motorola uses on the RAZRs bottom half.

Posted by: inspector

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Originally Posted by tuolumne

One thing is for certain.

Samsung knocks Motorola out of the ballpark when it comes to the UserInterface of the D807. V3 can suck it, it is terrible in every dimension; Slow, ugly, unintuitive, old.

I happen to like the D807's build quality as well. The huge piece of cool to the touch alloy on the front feels great, as do the front key buttons. The rear is made of plastic, but it is very high quality, much moreso than the cheap garbage Motorola uses on the RAZRs bottom half.

Again - I would beg to differ....with samsung i could tell its plastic...razr on the other hand - I still think its steel/metal...

Posted by: tuolumne

You think the bottom half of the RAZR's base lip is metal?

Posted by: helpermonkey

The battery cover is metal, the antenna cover is plastic on the Razr.

Posted by: justinb181

I disagree with the OP, my black razr is old and outdated, the UI is pure crap, my d807 while not the best phone in my opinion is better than a razr. Oh and earpiece volume is fine for me, i talked on it in a noisy bar last night with no problem (no i was not drunk)

Posted by: mckinnie08

I have had a razr. Actually I had 7. Or 8. I lost count. Long story. Lets just say thank god for XBM. And this was all in 4 months. I got the d807 and it is MUCH BETTER than the razr by far! The reception isnt quite as good as the razrs, but it is a more stable phone. The RAZR to me seemed like tourretts, it would go off anytime and mess up. The D807 however is a great phone. I like it better than any phone I have ever had. Slvr, razr, w600i, 6682 etc.

Posted by: certel

I replaced my RAZR with the D807 and I hated it. The back light stayed on while charging and I always sleep with my phone beside me. It had some navigation features that I didn't like. You couldn't save a phone number from the text messaging menu. One thing I did like was it had amazing reception. Clearest of all phones I've used. I ended up taking it back for a SLVR.

Posted by: mckinnie08

Thats odd, becuase I took my SLVR back for a d807. My speakers would constantly just stop working on my SLVR. Not dropped, never any liquid damage or nothing. Just flat out quit working. In 14 days. Got my samsung d807, nice phone.

Posted by: fretster

As I said. I had a SLVR for a day and returned it; horrible phone. I just got the D807 and I'm enjoying it a great deal thus far. Although I'm spoiled cause I've been using SEs for a while; the UI isn't that bad and is definitely leaps and bounds better than any Motos that I have used. Although there isn't a ton of customization on it, it's a fun little phone which I enjoy a lot thus far. Same with my SE z520a; really nice little phone.

Posted by: mckinnie08

Hmm 2 of the people i Know that use z520's said that theirs were giving them SIm Card reading problems? Has yours had this trouble?

Posted by: inspector

Did you have to ask for d807 in XBM?
Did they send you a full kit with the batter and charger or just the phone itself??
I think this thread is pushing me towards keeping my d807 and returning the v3.....

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Originally Posted by mckinnie08

I have had a razr. Actually I had 7. Or 8. I lost count. Long story. Lets just say thank god for XBM. And this was all in 4 months. I got the d807 and it is MUCH BETTER than the razr by far! The reception isnt quite as good as the razrs, but it is a more stable phone. The RAZR to me seemed like tourretts, it would go off anytime and mess up. The D807 however is a great phone. I like it better than any phone I have ever had. Slvr, razr, w600i, 6682 etc.

Posted by: fretster

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Originally Posted by mckinnie08

Hmm 2 of the people i Know that use z520's said that theirs were giving them SIm Card reading problems? Has yours had this trouble?

Never had an issue with mine, and it's a refurbished model as well.

Posted by: mckinnie08

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Originally Posted by inspector

Did you have to ask for d807 in XBM?
Did they send you a full kit with the batter and charger or just the phone itself??
I think this thread is pushing me towards keeping my d807 and returning the v3.....

Well, I didnt get the d807 through XBM. I am on a different plan. My sis never uses her phone and still uses a lg c1300 I bought on ebay way back when. She is on a different plan than me and she was able to upgrade. So She upgraded to a Samsung D807 and gave that phone to me and continued using her c1300.

Posted by: chonga

i have to say, after being a long time symbian user and visiting the cingular store this weekend that the d807 UI is impressive. I think it is very much improved over your old typical samsung and leaps and bounds over moto UI.

i think those people who think samsung is still a clunker phone of the past should check this one, along wiht other newer samsungs out. I may look into getting this phone as a weekender phone.

Posted by: mckinnie08

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Originally Posted by chonga

i have to say, after being a long time symbian user and visiting the cingular store this weekend that the d807 UI is impressive. I think it is very much improved over your old typical samsung and leaps and bounds over moto UI.

i think those people who think samsung is still a clunker phone of the past should check this one, along wiht other newer samsungs out. I may look into getting this phone as a weekender phone.

I don't think you will be dissappointed. It is a great phone.

The samsung UI is MUCH better than Motorola's by far. And I have used a lot of motorolas. C331g, v400, v551, razr, slvr, etc.