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Posted by: goldenrod9494

I'm a long time lurker with 30 years experience in IC marketing & computer graphics system design. The same guys that are pushing for an early release without adaquate quality and system testing will be the same ones that start complaining as soon as they encounter a problem. If you cant wait for a thoroughly tested device . . . buy a TyTn . . . or . . . wait in line with the rest of us. I'm willing to wait but I hate having the crippled camera! Oh well!

Posted by: richy240

Quote:

Originally Posted by teknics

Which is why I said AS LONG AS.

I am still on the fence, because I am going on a business trip November 1st. Come the 23rd and no news - I am going to order up a refurb 8125 and then give it to my girlfriend after the 8525 comes out.

Good point.

You could always get one of these, and sell your refurbished 8125 on eBay...

Posted by: FungFlex

Now I definetly am one of the screw it release it now bandwagon members. However its only because I know I will be reflashing the OS as updates are released, both with cingular and the fine gentlemen over at XDA. The only reason I am not considering the tytn variants is because its more money for less support just to have a feature that I cant even promise will work ever with Cingular.

But I am losing it here, I sold my 8125 so that I wouldn't be stuck with it after the 8525 drops and the 8125 has no more value too it, but until this phone drops I have only a d900 to enjoy my unlimited data.

Posted by: Jakaroe808

I for one am going down with my 8125.. I'm not going to sell this thing until the 8525 drops and by then the value will have dropped so low that I'll most likely just end up giving it to my brother-in-law. I just cant part with it until I at least know a definite date, and I dont think that will happen until we have it in our hands..

Posted by: PickleHat

Sheesh.

Back in July we had some issues with phones, and I got an opportunity to do an early upgrade. I was torn between getting an 8125 for myself, or something for my darling wife. I did a little digging, and saw that the tytn was on its way, and was a shoo-in for being picked up by cingular. 3g, 400mhz, 2 cameras, jog dial, etc. Looked great. The only downside I saw anyone commenting on was the memory card, and since I don't have any sd cards at all (everything is Sony/SE, so nothin' but Memory Sticks in my house) it didn't seem to be an issue for me.

So, dw got herself a new SE phone, and I began frequenting Howard Forums.

In the interim, the 8525 has been threatened and withdrawn so often I have psychological whiplash. The challenge of video calling was vanquished by deleting the front camera, apparently because Cingular isn't going to do video calling. A convenient programmable side button was hijacked for push to talk, with coding so insidious even the best crackers have been left scratching their nether regions pondering the destructive path wrought by Cingular engineers.

Still, delays, innuendos, broken promises and rumors floated around.

Rumors that 3g features would be available on the 2.5g network surfaced. Rumors that the push-to-talk integration would be done some time in February bobbled up to the surface. Further rumors whispered forth that video calling was in progress, and would probably be live within a year.

Various random outbursts from Cingular indicated a release date some time between yesterday and early 2007. In the midst of this fear, uncertainty and doubt, Roc A Fella reached down from his steel tower and gifted us all with the glimmer of hope.

However...

I fully intend to have my next phone for two years. Despite the obvious need for the latest technomarvel, I have a bit more difficulty convincing DW that a new phone trumps more mundane expenses like food and baby diapers (especially diapers!) With this in mind, I want to have the best device I can get today, because in a couple of years it will probably degrade to 'average.' If instead I opt for some crippled, pitiable shell of a device, with all its naughty bits ripped out and replaced with defective dlls, in a couple of years it will seem even more a hinderance.

My further concern with the general idea of the 8525 release can be summed up easily. Cingular deliberately removed the front facing camera, allegedly because they did not want to release a device with an utterly useless feature. If they release it before the Push-To-Talk feature works, they will be shipping a device with an utterly useless feature. A feature, I might add, which they forced into what was previously a perfectly serviceable device. This only leaves a handful of logical conclusions:

1) Cingular is announcing Push-To-Talk very soon (doubtful)
2) The 8525 will not ship with a push-to-talk button (again, doubtful)
3) The 8525 will not release until Push-To-Talk is announced (allegedly, February 2007, and I'd tend to believe the Fella fellow, making this doubtful as well)
4) Cingular's decision making process is either insane or mildly retarded

What I find most amusing is that everyone seems to be hoping for the last.

Posted by: cshehan

Quote:

Originally Posted by PickleHat

Sheesh.

Back in July we had some issues with phones, and I got an opportunity to do an early upgrade. I was torn between getting an 8125 for myself, or something for my darling wife. I did a little digging, and saw that the tytn was on its way, and was a shoo-in for being picked up by cingular. 3g, 400mhz, 2 cameras, jog dial, etc. Looked great. The only downside I saw anyone commenting on was the memory card, and since I don't have any sd cards at all (everything is Sony/SE, so nothin' but Memory Sticks in my house) it didn't seem to be an issue for me.

So, dw got herself a new SE phone, and I began frequenting Howard Forums.

In the interim, the 8525 has been threatened and withdrawn so often I have psychological whiplash. The challenge of video calling was vanquished by deleting the front camera, apparently because Cingular isn't going to do video calling. A convenient programmable side button was hijacked for push to talk, with coding so insidious even the best crackers have been left scratching their nether regions pondering the destructive path wrought by Cingular engineers.

Still, delays, innuendos, broken promises and rumors floated around.

Rumors that 3g features would be available on the 2.5g network surfaced. Rumors that the push-to-talk integration would be done some time in February bobbled up to the surface. Further rumors whispered forth that video calling was in progress, and would probably be live within a year.

Various random outbursts from Cingular indicated a release date some time between yesterday and early 2007. In the midst of this fear, uncertainty and doubt, Roc A Fella reached down from his steel tower and gifted us all with the glimmer of hope.

However...

I fully intend to have my next phone for two years. Despite the obvious need for the latest technomarvel, I have a bit more difficulty convincing DW that a new phone trumps more mundane expenses like food and baby diapers (especially diapers!) With this in mind, I want to have the best device I can get today, because in a couple of years it will probably degrade to 'average.' If instead I opt for some crippled, pitiable shell of a device, with all its naughty bits ripped out and replaced with defective dlls, in a couple of years it will seem even more a hinderance.

My further concern with the general idea of the 8525 release can be summed up easily. Cingular deliberately removed the front facing camera, allegedly because they did not want to release a device with an utterly useless feature. If they release it before the Push-To-Talk feature works, they will be shipping a device with an utterly useless feature. A feature, I might add, which they forced into what was previously a perfectly serviceable device. This only leaves a handful of logical conclusions:

1) Cingular is announcing Push-To-Talk very soon (doubtful)
2) The 8525 will not ship with a push-to-talk button (again, doubtful)
3) The 8525 will not release until Push-To-Talk is announced (allegedly, February 2007, and I'd tend to believe the Fella fellow, making this doubtful as well)
4) Cingular's decision making process is either insane or mildly retarded

What I find most amusing is that everyone seems to be hoping for the last.

Am I missing something?? I thought Cingular had Push-To-Talk already

http://www.cingular.com/pushtotalk

According to their coverage map unless you live in the boonies you can get PTT. If someone has some info that negates the information on the Cingular site please let me know.

Posted by: richy240

Quote:

Originally Posted by PickleHat

Soooo.....

Posted by: Omega2008

Why does it matter.....it will be out when Cingular releases it. The end, game over, the final word......either wait or get a Hermes varient. Problem solved.

Posted by: richy240

Yeah, screw the 8525 anyway. They crippled the device anyway when they extracted the front camera and software. I am convinced that they did this because they feel their network couldn't handle the bandwidth requirements of all that video calling. Because there's gonna be a ton of it. I'm actually doing it right now.

But, Omega, you could let people anticipate all they want...

Posted by: kenny6774

Quote:

Originally Posted by smokeyb111

Yeah, Honestly, what was the point aside from the slimmer profile no antenna and different colors. Am I NOT getting something here? I hear even the resolution of the camera is lower. (I had read it was simply a VGA camera on Engadget...granted I did'nt read the whole article though.)

WEAK!

Yeah, as I said on my post on Engadget...they are trying to cater to a younger more casual demographic. They certainly aren't catering to the tech heads like us...but really why would I get this and not the Sidekick?? Because of the colors?? I think not...PALM needs to completely rethink their strategy because if they don't they will DIE.

Posted by: PickleHat

Quote:

Originally Posted by cshehan

Uh... I've grown delirious with expectation?

Actually, that does sort of prove my abject disinterest in ptt, doesn't it?

Those two phones shown do look lonely. I'd imagine a PDA to be a welcome addition to the lineup. A good 1/3 of my ravings are now moot. Although I'll still have to carefully consider the Orange before opting for an 8525 with crippled button and deleted camera.

I'm also still not entirely convinced of Cingular's sanity.

Posted by: berdinkerdickle

There seems to be more of these oranges popping up on ebay.
Why are they cheaper than the tytn?

Posted by: smokeyb111

Quote:

Originally Posted by richy240

I am convinced that they did this because they feel their network couldn't handle the bandwidth requirements of all that video calling. Because there's gonna be a ton of it. I'm actually doing it right now.

You're doing WHAT right now. Hogging bandwidth or videocalling?

Posted by: folsomparty

Sooo....anyway. I've never given so much thought to buying a new "cel" phone, but this forum has really opened my eyes. The 8525 and TyTN are still at the top of the list, but this new HTC S620 (Excalibur) is really catcing my eye. The things that turn me off on the 8525 are:

1. It ain't available.
b. No one handed dialing....gotta use a touch screen.
c. The slide out keyboard is cool, but I'm worried about it gettin' all loose and jiggly.
4. It's expensive.

So, I see this new HTC Excalibur. It's already on T-Mobile's website with a release date of 10/26 (why can't cingular do that?). It's only a smartphone, but it's got the wifi I want. It's one solid unit with a keyboard I can use with one hand (man that sound nasty) It's not 3g...bummer. Which leads me to my first question. If I get a 3g pc card can I use that on the same account/line? At the same time I'm making calls? Also, will I be able to view Excel spreadsheets on Windows for smartphone? As always, thanks for the excellent info provided here....Brian.

Posted by: berdinkerdickle

Quote:

Originally Posted by charlie8525

I got my M3100 for about $575. I have sent the guy an email asking him how many more he has so that I can refer you guys to him. He is in England and shipped the same day I paid and even agreed to use my UPS account.

I got the M3100 unlocked in 3 min using the website: http://www.imei-check.co.uk/m3100unlock.php It cost $38 but was easy. I know that xda-developers are working on a free unlock...

I'm getting really close to buying an orange.
Someone please tell my why I shouldn't.

Posted by: iJITSU

Quote:

Originally Posted by berdinkerdickle

I'm getting really close to buying an orange.
Someone please tell my why I shouldn't.

Because a banana is better.

If you are looking for a reason not to get the Orange device, you can consider that it is not a supported device. If it breaks, you cannot walk into a local store and pick another up. You cannot do an exchange by mail within a day or so and will have to send it out for repair (maybe HTC in US or maybe Europe). It will come branded with Orange crap. It will probably have an older ROM than the one on the 8525.

On the other hand, you don't have to wait, you can probably update the ROM if improvements are made, you can always have a spare device to tide you over if you have to send your Orange device in for repair, and not being able to just walk into a store and pick one up is half the fun of having that type of device. Your coworkers and friends are unlikely to have the same shiny eye candy that you have.

Good luck with your decision.

Posted by: ManOfGod

Quote:

Originally Posted by folsomparty

. Also, will I be able to view Excel spreadsheets on Windows for smartphone?.

If I am not mistaken, you can view office docs on Smartphones. You can view and edit with PDA phones.

iJITSU, well done signature.

Posted by: Quatre

Quote:

Originally Posted by roc a fella

I will actually take out the leg work for you

Google Search

hey roca, you have a gsm Q? does it have wifi?

you have gsm k1 and cdma k1m? i have both cdma and gsm but as soon as cing has hsdpa rolled out as much as vzws evdo i will be leaving vzw which i use mostly for voice (some free in calling) and adding data to my cing plan which i use mostly for voice.

i'm still trying to figure out if the Treo 750 for cing will have hsdpa, if not its coming off my wish list. Then i just have to figure out which other phone to use my second upgrade with as my first one will be used on the samsung i607. should prob just import the k1 now while i'm still using cing for just voice.

use first upgrade on the i607 and then wait and see if i like the 8525 compared to the htc tytn which i think is my favorite version besides the black ntt docomo htc z.

but if i do import the k1 then i will have a second upgrade to use and if the treo 750 isn't hsdpa i will have to use it on the 8525

let me know what phones you think are best fo cing and vzw

how soon for the maxx? i bet ppl will import it now that its out even though it doen't have 850 and the highspeed wont work on ours, just like ppl imported the v3x with the same drawbacks. how soon till the maxx is out for cing though or at least an 850 (us hsdpa ) importable version. guess there wont be many of those. the htc tytn was rare i guess to not only have 850 but to have the hsdpa that works in the US, that most dont. what freq hsdpa exactly is it that we need to look for in an import phone if we expect it to work here on cing? hsdpa 1900?

Posted by: emuyshondt

Does anyone know if the Cingular 8525 will work in Japan using UMTS? I have a friend with a German UMTS phone that works there but I'm not sure what frequencies are in use in Japan.

Posted by: hitechy

Quote:

Originally Posted by emuyshondt

Does anyone know if the Cingular 8525 will work in Japan using UMTS? I have a friend with a German UMTS phone that works there but I'm not sure what frequencies are in use in Japan.

Yes, it definately will. The three main carriers in Japan are AU, NTT DoCoMo, and Vodafone/Softbank. Vodafone and DoCoMo both use UMTS 2100 like the rest of Europe. Since the 8525 has triband 850/1900/2100 UMTS/HSDPA, it will definately work. Now, I'm not sure if Cingular has any roaming agreements with DoCoMo or Vodafone, but if you can unlock the phone it will work. In fact, DoCoMo has their own variant of the 8525.

Posted by: emuyshondt

Thanks for the response. Now if I could only get this phone before I leave for Japan on Nov. 5

Is it true that the HTC TyTN is quad band for UMTS (800, 850, 1900, 2100 MHz) while the Cingular phone is triband (no 800 MHz)? I saw this while comparing the specs of the phones on PDAdb.net.

Where is the 800 MHz band used for UMTS and what would I be giving up if I don't have it while traveling internationally?

Posted by: pcman

FYI
THe 5 TyTn phones I won on ebay I knew was bogus (china/Germany)
the seller is now suspended (thanks to me he he).
FYI ebay doesn't even allow cash payment unless paid in person.
$950 total was to good to be true
I did not pay nor was I intending to pay unless it was with paypal and Escrow he wanted Wire Transfer which is not allowed or safe on ebay.
So buyers beware and just wait for the 8525 better support and warranty.

Posted by: hitechy

Quote:

Originally Posted by emuyshondt

Thanks for the response. Now if I could only get this phone before I leave for Japan on Nov. 5

No, you're a little confused. You see, the phone has Quadband GSM which includes the 850/900/1800/1900 bands in addition to UMTS/HSDPA 850/1900/2100. The 800 band is the same thing as 850, but some people use 850 to be more specific. All you need to know is that this phone has every single band and mode available in the world (excluding CDMA of course). You can travel to any country in the world and use this phone.

Posted by: SrchingForSignl

Quote:

Originally Posted by PickleHat

Sheesh.

My further concern with the general idea of the 8525 release can be summed up easily. Cingular deliberately removed the front facing camera, allegedly because they did not want to release a device with an utterly useless feature. If they release it before the Push-To-Talk feature works, they will be shipping a device with an utterly useless feature. A feature, I might add, which they forced into what was previously a perfectly serviceable device. This only leaves a handful of logical conclusions:

1) Cingular is announcing Push-To-Talk very soon (doubtful)
2) The 8525 will not ship with a push-to-talk button (again, doubtful)
3) The 8525 will not release until Push-To-Talk is announced (allegedly, February 2007, and I'd tend to believe the Fella fellow, making this doubtful as well)
4) Cingular's decision making process is either insane or mildly retarded

Mr. Pickle,

Do not discount the qualitative delta between the two disabled features. If there is an apparent camera that apparently does nothing, the masses will be reduced to quivering heaps of flavored gelatin.

If there is an apparent button that apparently does nothing, it's just another button... "Hm, perhaps it's one of those programmable dealies... No matter."

The price for enabling the PTT button on the phone later is very low. The price for releasing a device with a visible camera that does nothing is very high.

/Mr. Relish

Posted by: SrchingForSignl

Quote:

Originally Posted by emuyshondt

Does anyone know if the Cingular 8525 will work in Japan using UMTS? I have a friend with a German UMTS phone that works there but I'm not sure what frequencies are in use in Japan.

And while we're on the topic, does anybody know offhand if the 8525 will work in Australia?

Posted by: wizard8125

Ok.. 8525 is supposed to have cingular video/mobitv? If I acquired a Tytn variant.... Does the rom thats floating about for 8525 have mobitv included?

Posted by: conekkted

If you go to cingular.com and type in "8525" in the Search at top right, the first returned item is a pdf called "Great Rebates from Cingular". It includes the 8525. Offer is good from 9/24 thru 10/16.

Posted by: RulinSmoove

Quote:

Originally Posted by conekkted

If you go to cingular.com and type in "8525" in the Search at top right, the first returned item is a pdf called "Great Rebates from Cingular". It includes the 8525. Offer is good from 9/24 thru 10/16.

that means nothing. they have that on there incase they are able to get the phone out during those periods of time. how many times did we see the 8125 on the rebate sheet... id say for about 2-3 months.

Posted by: RulinSmoove

The 8525 does not have a PTT button. The button that you think is the PTT is really the Voice Dail button... hence the same icon as we see on the 8125.

Posted by: berdinkerdickle

So what will we use for 'Voice Dial'?

Posted by: emuyshondt

Quote:

Originally Posted by hitechy

PDAdb.net lists the GSM frequencies separate from the UMTS frequencies. The GSM frequencies are the same, the UMTS frequecies are listed as 800, 850, 1900 and 2100 MHz for the TyTN and 850, 1900 and 2100 MHz for the Cingular 8525. I don't know how accurate PDAdb is, but that's what they show on their site. They definitely make a distinction between 800 and 850 for UMTS.

Posted by: RulinSmoove

Quote:

Originally Posted by berdinkerdickle

So what will we use for 'Voice Dial'?

the voice dial button. the old renderings you saw of the 8525 showed a ptt button. in reality that ptt button got replaced with the voice dial button. there is not ptt button on the 8525, but that doesnt mean you cant set one of the buttons to use ptt. somebody over at the cingular.com forums sucessfully used ptt on a phone that had no dedicated ptt button.

Posted by: jglev

Quote:

Originally Posted by RulinSmoove

However, on the 8525, the PTT button is locked to PTT and no one at xda developers has found a way to reclaim that button and reasign it to voice dial (at least not since the last time I checked) or any other function. Basically, it is a lost hard button.

Posted by: URPREY

Quote:

Originally Posted by jglev

Sleuth255 hacked this yesterday...

Posted by: berdinkerdickle

Quote:

Originally Posted by RulinSmoove

Good!

I havn't been keeping close eye on this thread, so i missed that.

So we now know that there is no dedicated ptt button?

Posted by: berdinkerdickle

Quote:

Originally Posted by jglev

Are we all not sure about this so called dedicated ptt button?
Does the 8525 have it or not?

Posted by: Petrkovarik

Quote:

Originally Posted by berdinkerdickle

Are we all not sure about this so called dedicated ptt button?
Does the 8525 have it or not?

The 8525 has a dedicated PTT button...however, it has recently been hacked. The ability to remap it to other functions now exists. See this link to the forum...http://forum.xda-developers.com.

Also, got a reply from the contact in England regarding the SPV M3100's he has for sale. He has the ability to get more. Unfortunately, he is going on vacation and will not be back until the 30th.

So, if the 8525 gets released before then, great! If not, going to order a M3100 in early November.

Posted by: berdinkerdickle

Quote:

Originally Posted by Petrkovarik

Good News!

Posted by: berdinkerdickle

Nice Comparison - Tytn/M3100
http://www.tracyandmatt.co.uk/blogs...htc_tytn_review

Posted by: Mashie

Quote:

Originally Posted by Petrkovarik

This is exactly what I have been waiting for and will upgrade to the Cingular rom now

Posted by: Sleuth255

I'll have a CAB based installation ready before the 8500 series drops....

Posted by: SrchingForSignl

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sleuth255

I'll have a CAB based installation ready before the 8500 series drops....

You'd better hurry, you only have four months left...

Posted by: gravejoker

good one!!!

Posted by: Naveen

Quote:

Originally Posted by berdinkerdickle

Nice Comparison - Tytn/M3100
http://www.tracyandmatt.co.uk/blogs...htc_tytn_review

i like the color on the Orange unit

Posted by: berdinkerdickle

I have to keep telling myself to wait for Cing.

Posted by: Naveen

Quote:

Originally Posted by berdinkerdickle

I have to keep telling myself to wait for Cing.

i think that is what i am going to do. i am going to try my hardest. i keep on thinking it may be time to bite the bullet and buy a tytn but i really do not want to face the hassle of setting up the device to work correctly. i will just be patient as much as my mind lets me. i try my hardest not to come here to look for new news now, so the temptation is fadding

Posted by: robothero

I saw a PTT commercial for cingular today.

Posted by: SrchingForSignl

Quote:

Originally Posted by Naveen

i like the color on the Orange unit

HEY EVERYBODY!!

NAVEEN LIKES THE COLOR OF THE ORANGE UNIT.

Posted by: Havoc21

Quote:

Originally Posted by robothero

I saw a PTT commercial for cingular today.

I've seen them for the past year... what's your point?

Posted by: ManOfGod

Quote:

Originally Posted by SrchingForSignl

HEY EVERYBODY!!

NAVEEN LIKES THE COLOR OF THE ORANGE UNIT.

You, sir, are wet with sarcasm.

Posted by: gravejoker

Quote:

Originally Posted by ManOfGod

You, sir, are wet with sarcasm.

I think he is losing his touch ... what else can happen when hanging with losers like us ..

Posted by: jimalaiyah

Quote:

Originally Posted by Havoc21

I've seen them for the past year... what's your point?

I saw my first yesterday, too... and I watch quite a bit of television (not healthy)

Posted by: jimalaiyah

and the point would be that they're expanding and intensifying the ptt campaign... possibly to whet our appetites.

Posted by: MHC48

If I were to bite the bullet and buy an unlocked 8525:

1) where/who would be the best place to do so;

2) would it take much fiddling and tweaking to get it to work after inserting my current sim?

Posted by: pcmike

How are you gonna get an unlocked 8525 if they're not even released yet?

Posted by: txschafers

Quote:

Originally Posted by MHC48

If I were to bite the bullet and buy an unlocked 8525:

1) where/who would be the best place to do so;

2) would it take much fiddling and tweaking to get it to work after inserting my current sim?

I asked this question on the XDA Developers forum and the same "free" software that unlocks an 8125 and a TYTn will work on the 8525. I am planning on unlocking it that way since it worked perfectly on my old 8125.

Posted by: maevro

Quote:

Originally Posted by MHC48

If I were to bite the bullet and buy an unlocked 8525:

1) where/who would be the best place to do so;

2) would it take much fiddling and tweaking to get it to work after inserting my current sim?

If you use cingular as your carrier, why would you buy the phone unlocked?

Posted by: txschafers

Quote:

Originally Posted by maevro

If you use cingular as your carrier, why would you buy the phone unlocked?

If you travel alot internationally you can use local SIM cards in the phone. I do that sometimes so the folks I am working with locally can call me on a local number versus making a long distance call back to the states that I get hit with a riaming charge on.

Posted by: Sleuth255

Over at xda-developers, they're are working on SIM unlocking hermes devices but are not there yet. Here's a relevant thread on this:

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=273643

Posted by: maevro

Quote:

Originally Posted by txschafers

Gotcha, that makes sense. Thanks for the info.

Posted by: phillyfan

I went to get my sim replaced yesterday. I went to a corporate and non-corporate store and both said they will get the 8525 1 Nov. So if that is true Business cutomers should be getting it 1 - 2 weeks ahead of the stores.

Posted by: jimalaiyah

I'm sorry for my potential ignorance... but don't all Cingular phones come unlocked... if I'm not mistaken, and I might be, that was one of their original claims to fame. I've never had a problem using foreign sims in my Cingular branded MPX220.... Europe, Middle East, South America.

Posted by: aaadock

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimalaiyah

I'm sorry for my potential ignorance... but don't all Cingular phones come unlocked... if I'm not mistaken, and I might be, that was one of their original claims to fame. I've never had a problem using foreign sims in my Cingular branded MPX220.... Europe, Middle East, South America.

before the ATT merge... now they are locked.

Posted by: RF9

If you can wait 3 months after you get the 8525, you should be able to call and get the unlock code from Cingular CS.

Posted by: MHC48

Quote:

Originally Posted by phillyfan

I went to get my sim replaced yesterday. I went to a corporate and non-corporate store and both said they will get the 8525 1 Nov. So if that is true Business cutomers should be getting it 1 - 2 weeks ahead of the stores.

I hate myself for doing this and joining in the rampant quoting of CingularStore wombats, but this jibes with what I was told yesterday at a local Cingular retail outlet. I was there to buy a charger for my daughter's Razor and so "innocently" asked about a rumored replacement that was coming for the 8125. They told me third week of November.

I've been using a pda of some sort since 1990 (started with Sharp Wizards > Zauruses > Palms > Ipaq. But I lost my last Ipaq about a month ago and decided this time to only replace it with a phone version. But the wait and disruption to my normal mode of doing things without a pda is killing me)

Posted by: DemonPPC

The guy at my local cingular store told me end of Nov too . . . but he gives me a different story each time I go in there (about once a week to casually check on the 8525). I think he's just filling me with BS. I don't ask rudely and never argue about what I'm reading here (I don't even tell him that I'm reading anything on the net), which is why I'm not going to buy it from him when it finally does arrive!
Sorry dude, all you had to do was be straight with me and you would have had a guaranteed sale!

Posted by: Cansler

Quote:

Originally Posted by phillyfan

Phillyfan, could you give the link to where I could go to learn about overclocking and tweaking my 8125? I just got it. Or could you tell me how? my email is canslers at yahoo dot com.

cansler

Posted by: robothero

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimalaiyah

and the point would be that they're expanding and intensifying the ptt campaign... possibly to whet our appetites.

DING DING DING... bob, show him what he's won!

Posted by: ASimpleFarmer

Quote:

Originally Posted by DemonPPC

The guy at my local cingular store told me end of Nov too . . . but he gives me a different story each time I go in there (about once a week to casually check on the 8525). I think he's just filling me with BS. I don't ask rudely and never argue about what I'm reading here (I don't even tell him that I'm reading anything on the net), which is why I'm not going to buy it from him when it finally does arrive!
Sorry dude, all you had to do was be straight with me and you would have had a guaranteed sale!

were you goin to upgrade with atleast PDA connect or if you were buying it outright adding on PDA connect or better?
because if you did neither, that rep could care less. just being straight with you
if you say that you are going to upgrade 4 lines and still no pda connect...that rep still cant care less

Posted by: gravejoker

Quote:

Originally Posted by txschafers

Somebody probably didnt knew or was just messing around ... There's NO free tool available to unlock the TyTN .. the only people who can unlock your TyTN are imei-check ...

Posted by: ChicagoDrew

with many states and cities like Chicago with a intrusive govornment that has laws about using a phone while driving, that stipulate that you must use hands free device and use voice dialing. Wouldn't it be a bad and possibly a potential litigation issue with Cingy for permently converting a button for Voice Dialing with PTT??

Posted by: teknics

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChicagoDrew

with many states and cities like Chicago with a intrusive govornment that has laws about using a phone while driving, that stipulate that you must use hands free device and use voice dialing. Wouldn't it be a bad and possibly a potential litigation issue with Cingy for permently converting a button for Voice Dialing with PTT??

No, they provide you with more than enough ways to use a cell phone while driving. Litigation issue, there are too many REAL problems in the world to even worry about people blaming everyone else but THEMSELVES for their own actions or negligence.

Posted by: gravejoker

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChicagoDrew

It was hacked by Sleuth255 .. a few daya back .. check out the xda-developers.com TyTN sub-forum ...

Posted by: gravejoker

http://www.howardforums.com/showpos...&postcount=1200 ...

This thread has more than 670 posts in just 2 weeks or so ... THAT'S REALLY IMPRESSIVE ..

Posted by: DemonPPC

Quote:

Originally Posted by ASimpleFarmer

Not really sure I'm following your reply. I didn't discuss details of plans because it never got to that stage. (I will be getting some sort of data plan though, btw) Just that I currently have Sprint, that my office uses Cingular and that we just bought two 8125's and that I will also buy one if they can tell me when the 8525 is coming out. The last three times I checked (usually no more than once per week) they gave three wildly different timeframes (ranging from 3-4 weeks to 2-3 months). I can understand that they don't know and then I would just have to live with "we just don't know" (which is what they told me the very first time). As I said before I am going to get the 8525 no question, so I just have to wait. I just don't appreciate the BS answers and unecessary attitude that I've been getting.

Posted by: christian15213

I don't know much but I do know this... This phone will be out before December 25th... I will gaurantee you 5 billion dollars this phone will be out before Christmas.

With that said here is a couple things to consider.

1. The rebate form, yes the bogus form everyone keeps talking about... not saying it is bogus but I am saying it is invalid with no phone out there. This form is actually on the Cingular.com website. meaning before when i would type in 8525 there was nothing but some addy in texas and now it is that rebate form.

2. Someone who works at Best Buy says it is in there system slated for October...

3. More and more pics popping up on the internet.

4. There is a good chance that the phone will be out before the November 26th (AKA Black Friday) due to hyped up Holiday shopping... meaning no one would want to release a phone after the fact of every family in America is pretty much going to be broke come the end of November.

With all of these points... I am going to say the end of October, HIGHLY likely... First week of November second most likely... and anything after that Highly UNLIKELY and completely RETARDED by cingular / bell south / att<<who is this company again... lol, I mean all att has to do now is by Verizon and they will have effectly built a bigger monopoly than the one they created before they got split up by the DOJ...

Posted by: smokeyb111

Quote:

Originally Posted by christian15213

I don't know much but I do know this... This phone will be out before December 25th... I will gaurantee you 5 billion dollars this phone will be out before Christmas.

With that said here is a couple things to consider.

1. The rebate form, yes the bogus form everyone keeps talking about... not saying it is bogus but I am saying it is invalid with no phone out there. This form is actually on the Cingular.com website. meaning before when i would type in 8525 there was nothing but some addy in texas and now it is that rebate form.

2. Someone who works at Best Buy says it is in there system slated for October...

3. More and more pics popping up on the internet.

4. There is a good chance that the phone will be out before the November 26th (AKA Black Friday) due to hyped up Holiday shopping... meaning no one would want to release a phone after the fact of every family in America is pretty much going to be broke come the end of November.

With all of these points... I am going to say the end of October, HIGHLY likely... First week of November second most likely... and anything after that Highly UNLIKELY and completely RETARDED by cingular / bell south / att<<who is this company again... lol, I mean all att has to do now is by Verizon and they will have effectly built a bigger monopoly than the one they created before they got split up by the DOJ...

WOW deja vu. I thought I was reliving the 8125 release...............

Posted by: jimalaiyah

I'm guessing.. if Roc a fella's wrong about the 10/23 date... which I hope he's not... last year Thanksgiving (3rd Thursday of November) was a day that a bunch of phones, including my MPx220, were released... so consider this a bet in the Black Friday or even the day before pot.

---- praying for sooner...

Posted by: MrTrunks

My gf knows a guy whos brother is district manager or some crap for cingular. My gf asked the guy to ask his brother when the 8525 will come out. he said to his brother who told my gf who told me that he said the release date is 10/21...I guess we will all see if the I said she said he said he said is true

Posted by: Slimsaturn

Quote:

Originally Posted by txschafers

let me know how you like your new $700 brick when you do this

Posted by: gravejoker

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slimsaturn

let me know how you like your new $700 brick when you do this

Exactly .. tho only a 450$ brick .. if that's a consolation .. that you only bricked 450$ ..

Posted by: christian15213

I have a couple questions... Because you can use this phone as a modem... Will I be able, when 3g comes to my hood, cut comcast off because I won't be needing them any longer...

As well, will I be able to buy and unlimited data plan for the 40 50 or 60 bucks and buy the "card" edge or whatever for now and use that in my pc and lap top when I need too? meaning, will it still be the same one price data plan. If so i can't wait to save 50 bucks a month by dropping comcastic highspeed broad band when 3g comes to me.

Posted by: wierdo

Quote:

Originally Posted by MHC48

I've been using a pda of some sort since 1990 (started with Sharp Wizards > Zauruses > Palms > Ipaq.

Sorry to go OT again, but mmmm...Zaurus! Me likey Zaurus. Too bad they never made a phone out of one of those guys.

Posted by: txschafers

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slimsaturn

let me know how you like your new $700 brick when you do this

Well my 8125 worked perfectly after unlocking it. However, I am a little smarter then to load something unproven. Actually I have had no problem having my Cingular phones unlocked due to my international travel. cingular unlocked my Treo's as well as my current 8700. My first stop will be Cingular for the unlock code. My first 8125 was unlocked by the XDA program. I sold it since I got another one REAL cheap via premier and had Cingular unlock that one.

Posted by: RulinSmoove

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slimsaturn

let me know how you like your new $700 brick when you do this

the program works fine. you're only going to bring your phone if you don't know what you're doing... in which you shouldn't be using the programs anyway.

Posted by: gravejoker

Quote:

Originally Posted by RulinSmoove

the program works fine. you're only going to bring your phone if you don't know what you're doing... in which you shouldn't be using the programs anway.

Have you tried unlocking a 8525/TyTN with the "free program" available on xda-developers.com?

I dont think we are talking about unlocking a 8125 over here ...

Posted by: mentalcase

I'm playing with the 8525 as we speak and let me tell you its awesome. First off it looks much better in person then in the pictures also it is slightly smaller then the 8125 and you can tell by holding it. The PTT is disabled on the one I'm holding. Right now I'm on UMTS and I tested at about 330 kbps. Once I get home ill post some pictures that I took of it.

Posted by: gravejoker

Quote:

Originally Posted by mentalcase

I'm playing with the 8525 as we speak and let me tell you its awesome. First off it looks much better in person then in the pictures also it is slightly smaller then the 8125 and you can tell by holding it. The PTT is disabled on the one I'm holding. Right now I'm on UMTS and I tested at about 330 kbps. Once I get home ill post some pictures that I took of it.

Whohhhhhhhhhh!!! How come you have a 8525? Please post more details, pictures .. any info that you have ..

Posted by: Theprezodent

Quote:

Originally Posted by mentalcase

Mentalcase, I see with your sprint phone you are using slingmobile. I have been looking all over the internet for people who have posted video of the slingmoble or Orb usage on the 8525 (or one of its siblings) using HSDPA and I would love to know if you are putting that piece of software on the phone and if you do how good does it work? AND if you wanted to post video somewhere that would make my week

The only reason I am concerned is the built in stacked ATI graphics processor with the samsung main processor has caused some playback problems with programs such as Coreplayer because programmers have to update the software to make it work correctly with the ATI chip. Link to the issue is here: http://www.corecodec.com/forum/index.php?topic=3046.0

Anyway, any info is appreciated!!!! .....Like how the heck do I get an 8525 for testing early !!!!

Posted by: mentalcase

Its not my device so I can throw my slingplayer on it, I'm only using it for a few hours today so I can't really answer your question.

Posted by: tremcotexas

Once this thing launches... You power users better get a 2nd battery. I can tell you that I use this thing for a phone a ton and then use mobile explorer & tether depending on how I am traveling; UMTS is on most of the time and it sucks the life out of the battery. I have not purchased a second battery; but I'm going to!! Don't get me wrong though, the device is by far superior to the 8125...I think it is by far the best device I have owned (Treo 650, Qtek 9100, 8125 and numerous other junk phones).

Posted by: txschafers

Quote:

Originally Posted by tremcotexas

Once this thing launches... You power users better get a 2nd battery. I can tell you that I use this thing for a phone a ton and then use mobile explorer & tether depending on how I am traveling; UMTS is on most of the time and it sucks the life out of the battery. I have not purchased a second battery; but I'm going to!! Don't get me wrong though, the device is by far superior to the 8125...I think it is by far the best device I have owned (Treo 650, Qtek 9100, 8125 and numerous other junk phones).

How about an expected launch date? My Cingular rep has inidcated a while back two weeks which would have been late last week early this week.

Posted by: robothero

127 pages and counting should let you know that nobody knows when it will launch yet.

Posted by: tremcotexas

Quote:

Originally Posted by txschafers

How about an expected launch date? My Cingular rep has inidcated a while back two weeks which would have been late last week early this week.

I don't know and I apologize for the confusion; I have the Jasjam. I could not wait after all the pushed dates with the 8125. Trust me though... If you are in a 3G area and talk on the phone a bunch... Get a second battery! Or you will end up like me with my Jasjam plugged into my lap-top, trying to get that last call in while waiting in line for an airplane in Tulsa, Oklahoma!

Posted by: gravejoker

Quote:

Originally Posted by mentalcase

I think txschafers was talking about this post ..

Posted by: SoberGuy

The best I have is:
"I was on a call yesterday and the mentioned that the 8525 would be out next month. Just in time for the holidays."

This will not drop before November 1. I don't have an exact date (yet, working on that). But I do trust the source.

Posted by: Theprezodent

Quote:

Originally Posted by mentalcase

Its not my device so I can throw my slingplayer on it, I'm only using it for a few hours today so I can't really answer your question.

Well thats ok, I am sure we will all be waiting for your report later on today anyway.

If anyone has seen video or a review commenting on how Slingplayer Mobile or Orb is working on the TyTN or any other variant I would love to know.

Hope you guys are all working hard and not refreshing this forum every 15 minutes all day like I do!!!

Posted by: kenny6774

I want my FU***** 8525!!

Posted by: RulinSmoove

i dont. i want the o2 trion. i dont feel like spending $$$ and having a phone crippled with no 2nd camera. cingular will support video calling when they are ready. so i might as well get a camera that isnt crippled.

Posted by: DemonPPC

Or just get the 8525 now (now meaning whenever the hell it's actually released!) and then upgrade if/when they do upgrade to video calling . . .

Posted by: ASimpleFarmer

Quote:

Originally Posted by RulinSmoove

i dont. i want the o2 trion. i dont feel like spending $$$ and having a phone crippled with no 2nd camera. cingular will support video calling when they are ready. so i might as well get a camera that isnt crippled.

is video calling THAT big of a deal to you? I say if it makes the phone a lil bit cheaper for us, then i am all for it

Posted by: txschafers

Quote:

Originally Posted by ASimpleFarmer

is video calling THAT big of a deal to you? I say if it makes the phone a lil bit cheaper for us, then i am all for it

I would never use video calling so could care less about the feature. Just something else that can go wrong on the phone IMO.

Posted by: berdinkerdickle

http://cgi.ebay.com/SPV-M3100-PDA-k...1QQcmdZViewItem

Posted by: robothero

Quote:

Originally Posted by berdinkerdickle

http://cgi.ebay.com/SPV-M3100-PDA-k...1QQcmdZViewItem

It's a scammer, look at their rating and what they bought.

Posted by: berdinkerdickle

Here's another one:
http://cgi.ebay.com/SPV-M3100-PDA-k...1QQcmdZViewItem

What's with these Oranges?

Posted by: txschafers

Quote:

Originally Posted by berdinkerdickle

http://cgi.ebay.com/SPV-M3100-PDA-k...1QQcmdZViewItem

It does not say if it is used, new, unlocked....etc...

Posted by: brainiac978

Quote:

Originally Posted by berdinkerdickle

http://cgi.ebay.com/SPV-M3100-PDA-k...1QQcmdZViewItem

I smell a scam.

Posted by: Theprezodent

Quote:

Originally Posted by brainiac978

I smell a scam.

it is ABSOLUTELY a scam. Guy has only been a menber for 40 days and has only bought things that are .01 cents.

SACM, SCAM, SCAM

Posted by: cshehan

Quote:

Originally Posted by berdinkerdickle

http://cgi.ebay.com/SPV-M3100-PDA-k...1QQcmdZViewItem

Can you say scam???? I knew you could. Check this guys Ebay feedback. All from 1 cent auctions he has won in the last week. I would steer far clear of this auction!!!!

Posted by: robothero

If it looks like a rat, and it smells like a rat.... you know the rest.

Posted by: cshehan

Quote:

Originally Posted by cshehan

Can you say scam???? I knew you could. Check this guys Ebay feedback. All from 1 cent auctions he has won in the last week. I would steer far clear of this auction!!!!

LOL!!! In the time it took me to read the original post, look at the auction and write a response like 6 people replied and called it a scam.

Posted by: berdinkerdickle

So, do you guys think it's a scam?

Posted by: brainiac978

Quote:

Originally Posted by berdinkerdickle

So, do you guys think it's a scam?

If it sounds too good to be true... it is!!

Posted by: Havoc21

He doesnt have a real picture of the phone that is "in his possession".

They are all pics you can find on the net.

Posted by: RF9

Well if we're really looking at a possible (some time) in November realease, I'm sure as hell glad I didn't hold off getting an 8125 refurb for $200 for "in the mean time." WM5 rocks (compared to PalmOS on my Treo 650.) This thing is so cool I can't wait to see what the 8525 is going to be like.
There is a silver lining in a later than sooner release. At least if it comes out about the same time as the Treo 750 I'll be able to compare the two and help me decide. I know, I should be shot for even suggesting there is any reason the release should delay.

Posted by: brainiac978

Yeah, I brought back my 8125 because I didnt want to get "stuck" with it (was still in 30 day trial, aka buyers remorse LOL). So now I'm impatiently waiting for the 8525. I thought about getting another phone to tide me over but I didnt find anything I liked. Oh well LOL

Posted by: robothero

You're lucky RF9, because I honestly couldn't wait, which is why I got a TyTN. No issues with it so far, knock on wood, so hopefully I made the right choice.

Posted by: ChicagoDrew

Quote:

Originally Posted by teknics

I agree I was just pointing out an issue for having a Voice Comand button instead of PTT. So I guess I will be getting the hack so I can have that function or something.

Posted by: DemonPPC

I thought it was pretty funny that the ebay scammer selling Oranges had "sold" pictures of apples in his two most recent sales: Photo of an Apple

Posted by: wizard8125

C'mon, if you are buying anything on ebay and you can't pay using paypal..(with paypal you can actually trace the payee/payer...) So a scam artist would use "other means of payment". Absolutely do not make that purchase.

Anyhoo, no one commented on my question about the 8525 rom having cingular video/ mobitv...

I'm in philly.. so today on primiere I bought the lg cu500 for $78.00 (hopefully they don't cancel my order) to test the true 3g availabilty in my city, before i take the plung, cingular is sitting on her rump on this one.. Her employees are clueless too.

Posted by: Slimsaturn

Quote:

Originally Posted by gravejoker

Have you tried unlocking a 8525/TyTN with the "free program" available on xda-developers.com?

I dont think we are talking about unlocking a 8125 over here ...

Some person said the unlocked would work on their 8525. It will brick it. But you can try it..Just tell me when you do so I can laugh.

Posted by: Slimsaturn

Quote:

Originally Posted by Theprezodent

Orb works great on my 8125 and MDA. Listen to music, video and pictures with out a problem

Posted by: gravejoker

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slimsaturn

Some person said the unlocked would work on their 8525. It will brick it. But you can try it..Just tell me when you do so I can laugh.

That's exactly what I was saying .. to that guy ..

Posted by: Slimsaturn

Quote:

Originally Posted by gravejoker

That's exactly what I was saying .. to that guy ..

I know I meant to say thanks to you

Posted by: mentalcase

Quote:

Originally Posted by ASimpleFarmer

is video calling THAT big of a deal to you? I say if it makes the phone a lil bit cheaper for us, then i am all for it

Video calling will not be possible till hsupa. While the download speeds for HSDPA (the D stand for downlink) are nice and fast, the upload speeds for it are still rather slow. We need to wait for HSUPA (U stands for uplink) to be able to do that.

Posted by: mentalcase

There wasnt many other programs then what the 8125 comes with. I did not see any links for mobitv but then again this was only a tester.

PS sorry for the double post.

Posted by: gravejoker

Awesome pics man!! Really awesome!! It looks so beautiful .. cant get it out of my mind ..

Any updates regarding where is the phone in the release cycle? When will it be released?

Posted by: wizard8125

Quote:

Originally Posted by mentalcase

There wasnt many other programs then what the 8125 comes with. I did not see any links for mobitv but then again this was only a tester.

PS sorry for the double post.

what about cingular video? (could you remove the cover and see if the front facing camera is under da hood?

)

I AM SOO IN LOVE. Thanx for the pics tho:

Posted by: berdinkerdickle

Quote:

Originally Posted by mentalcase

There wasnt many other programs then what the 8125 comes with. I did not see any links for mobitv but then again this was only a tester.

PS sorry for the double post.

Looks like you were at dslreports getting 921kbs

Posted by: mentalcase

Quote:

Originally Posted by gravejoker

Awesome pics man!! Really awesome!! It looks so beautiful .. cant get it out of my mind ..

Any updates regarding where is the phone in the release cycle? When will it be released?

No one wants to give me a definate release date due to the possibility of it being pushed back. BUT last i hear was october 25. Take that with a grain of salt though because it most likely will change.

Posted by: cshehan

Quote:

Originally Posted by berdinkerdickle

Looks like you were at dslreports getting 921kbs

Looks like you're good at pointing out the completely obvious!!

Posted by: tremcotexas

Some guy on Cingular forum said he got the 8525... Not sure but you never know.

http://forums.cingular.com/cng/boar...id=19783#M19783

Posted by: mentalcase

Quote:

Originally Posted by tremcotexas

Some guy on Cingular forum said he got the 8525... Not sure but you never know.

http://forums.cingular.com/cng/boar...id=19783#M19783

I call bs on that one. Guy has like 2 posts.

Posted by: berdinkerdickle

Quote:

Originally Posted by cshehan

Looks like you're good at pointing out the completely obvious!!

Posted by: cshehan

Quote:

Originally Posted by tremcotexas

Some guy on Cingular forum said he got the 8525... Not sure but you never know.

http://forums.cingular.com/cng/boar...id=19783#M19783

Once I see some pics of him holding it next to todays newspaper I'll believe, otherwise I think he's just yanking our chain. With all the people on this forum who either work for Cingular, or have Cingular contacts we would already know if this was available in a store.

Posted by: prateeko

...

Oh God, I want this thing

But I'm so close to getting a K790a!!

Posted by: chymmylt

Well finally got the TyTN I ordered - I'm amazed it got here before the 8525 got released - not my typical luck! Less then 15 hours playing with it but it's great - I think I'm glad I finally got off my backside and said screw waiting! I also had fun when I went to pay my bill because every time I go into the store I nag them about when the 8525 is coming out and this time when I walked in the door the guy said - hey good news (I thought oh no - they released it) and then he said - I got to play with the 8525 the other day - it should be out by the begining of next month - I got to say - even better news - I don't need it and showed him the TyTN. He said after playing with mine for a few minutes that it was very similar (there's a surprise) but he seemed to thing the TyTN's performance was slightly better and after playing with both he would probably get a TyTN himself instead of the 8525 so coming from a guy who had now had hands on with both - I was happy to hear that.

I doubt that the TyTN actually preforms any better - I suspect that either the 8525 he played with had lots of programs actively running/installed on it or that it's just happened to be the one he most recently played with so it just seemed better (kinda like if you're buying a car you are most likely to buy the last one you test drive) - I don't know.

Posted by: gravejoker

Quote:

Originally Posted by chymmylt

Well finally got the TyTN I ordered - I'm amazed it got here before the 8525 got released - not my typical luck! Less then 15 hours playing with it but it's great - I think I'm glad I finally got off my backside and said screw waiting! I also had fun when I went to pay my bill because every time I go into the store I nag them about when the 8525 is coming out and this time when I walked in the door the guy said - hey good news (I thought oh no - they released it) and then he said - I got to play with the 8525 the other day - it should be out by the begining of next month - I got to say - even better news - I don't need it and showed him the TyTN. He said after playing with mine for a few minutes that it was very similar (there's a surprise) but he seemed to thing the TyTN's performance was slightly better and after playing with both he would probably get a TyTN himself instead of the 8525 so coming from a guy who had now had hands on with both - I was happy to hear that.

I doubt that the TyTN actually preforms any better - I suspect that either the 8525 he played with had lots of programs actively running/installed on it or that it's just happened to be the one he most recently played with so it just seemed better (kinda like if you're buying a car you are most likely to buy the last one you test drive) - I don't know.

Where did you buy it from?

Posted by: wizard8125

so cingular primier shippipped my lg cu500... I should get it tomorrow (already tracking my baby). $78.00 is a sweet deal.. .lets see if we have 3g in philly. then i'll be happy to take the plung down tytn or 8525 which ever comes to me first.

Posted by: robothero

Hey wizard, I'm in philly as well (or I should say just outside) and am pretty sure we have 3g.

Posted by: pcman

OK I haven't been on the board in a week and as much as I would love to read through 35 pages of nonsense I just don't have 2 hours to burn.
So is there a release date yet for the 8525.
I'm in S. Jersey 10 miles out of Philly and also waiting I was told in NOV. for 3G

Also on the eBay phones don't pay for any item unless its with paypal or an escrow service.
I won 5 phones ($950 for 4 Tytn and a Sony) which I knew was going to be fake but I bid anyway to see what would happen and to get him suspened and just as I expected the seller requested a wire transfer and could not produce any REAL pictures of the item.
This was my way of getting this seller suspended. I reported him to ebay and with a few days he was suspended LOL

.
I hate eBay scammers

thanks

Posted by: skidpalace

Quote:

Originally Posted by mentalcase

There wasnt many other programs then what the 8125 comes with. I did not see any links for mobitv but then again this was only a tester.

PS sorry for the double post.

Looks like we need to get used to seeing that battery meter with the big-a$$ exclamation point on it, don't we.

Posted by: richy240

Quote:

Originally Posted by gravejoker

Where did you buy it from?

Got mine from http://www.phonesource-usa.com/

Good experience all around.

Posted by: gravejoker

Quote:

Originally Posted by richy240

Got mine from http://www.phonesource-usa.com/

Good experience all around.

And what's the serial # range of your TyTN?

Posted by: richy240

Quote:

Originally Posted by gravejoker

And what's the serial # range of your TyTN?

Well, I guess now that I look at it, it is in the HT62XXX range, but they assured me that their latest batch was tried and true.

I guess we'll see if any problems pop up. I've had the device since Saturday... This would prove to be a bad experience if something went wrong with this device.

Posted by: robothero

One thing thats wierd about the TyTN... on these forums noone ever seems to have a problem with their device and all they can do is praise it. On XDA-Developers, everyone has SA problems and everyone hates HTC for having the problems.

Posted by: robothero

Quote:

Originally Posted by richy240

Well, I guess now that I look at it, it is in the HT62XXX range, but they assured me that their latest batch was tried and true. I guess we'll see if any problems pop up. I've had the device since Saturday.

from another thread:

Quote:

the serial number means ONLY: HTC(factory)6(year)XX(week of production)xxx(progressive unit number), nothing about enhancements or fixing

Quote:

If you are thinking of buying an HTC TyTN, make sure you get an HTC636 or higher serrial number. Avoid S/N HTC62XXX and HTC63[1-5]XXX

Posted by: richy240

Yeah, but there have been problems with some TyTNs, and they were traced back to a certain rage of serials. I suspect mine falls in that range, though I have had no problems thus far.

Posted by: Theprezodent

Ok Roc a fella,
We all know you have the inside line....so what are you hearing? Monday the 30th still holding up as a good date?

Its ok for you to tell us what is not confirmed, I wont be like some of the others and bash you if the date is wrong....I promise

Posted by: chymmylt

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Originally Posted by gravejoker

Where did you buy it from?

Phonesoure-USA

Posted by: mush10

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so cingular primier shippipped my lg cu500... I should get it tomorrow (already tracking my baby). $78.00 is a sweet deal.. .lets see if we have 3g in philly. then i'll be happy to take the plung down tytn or 8525 which ever comes to me first.

3G is certainly live in Philly.......LG is a decent phone if you remember you are getting what you pay for, but that is for another thread........

I am patiently waiting for the 8525 and some of the other new 3G phones on the horizon

Posted by: exchguy

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Originally Posted by Theprezodent

Ok Roc a fella,
We all know you have the inside line....so what are you hearing? Monday the 30th still holding up as a good date?

Its ok for you to tell us what is not confirmed, I wont be like some of the others and bash you if the date is wrong....I promise

Yep, I am wondering if anyone has heard anything about release. I'm hoping we see something pop up on Premier in the next few weeks for the 8525. I think Roc a fella last said that he thought it could be the 23rd (next Monday). He was going to speak with a contact of his at Cingular today for an update.

Posted by: SoberGuy

Won't be released until November. I don't have an exact date (yet), but it will not drop this month.

Posted by: Naveen

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Originally Posted by SoberGuy

Won't be released until November. I don't have an exact date (yet), but it will not drop this month.

where did you get this new information from?

Posted by: benfica88

I'm pretty sure my last post will hold up pretty good (Dec. release). All the sources are now shooting for November. Before you know it rumors will be flying of a December date...

Posted by: SoberGuy

Naveen, I posted this information yesterday. My contact works in government solutions for Cingular. When I needed something taken care of, the VP of government solutions asked my contact to address the issue for me.

Posted by: hope4jsl

I have a contact at a Cingular store who says that they are having a big meeting on Wednesday to look at new products and meet with sveral venders. She is already expecting me to call first thing Thursday to see whats up. I will let you guys know if I hear anything for sure....

As of right now she is saying 6 weeks, but she said hopefully she will know more Wednesday...

Posted by: skidpalace

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Originally Posted by hope4jsl

I have a contact at a Cingular store who says that they are having a big meeting on Wednesday to look at new products and meet with sveral venders. She is already expecting me to call first thing Thursday to see whats up. I will let you guys know if I hear anything for sure....

As of right now she is saying 6 weeks, but she said hopefully she will know more Wednesday...

Six weeks is exactly what my guy said two weeks ago. He said late November/early December.

Posted by: pcmike

Cingular is retarded.. this phone should of been ready long time ago. This waiting game is freaking stupid..

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