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Cingular/HTC 8525 / HSDPA (APPROVED)
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Posted by: Naveen

Quote:

Originally Posted by RF9

Yes. In fact there are some models of Pocket PC that don't have a slide out keyboard at all, so the only way to type text is with a software keyboard or handwring recognition. Still though, the Treo design is VERY convenient. I'm also swtiching form the Treo to the 8525 so the keyboard factor will take a little getting used to. But I've been paying atteniont to my usage and it turns out I do quite a lot without the keyboard on a Treo. When I do need to type, two hands on the keyboard wouldn't be such a chore.
But If you get one of those cases where you have to flip open a flap before you can slide out the keyboard, then yeah, that'll be a huge pain.

the software keyboard is really not that difficult to use. for short emails or short text it will do the job. for longer text the slide out will be very convienent

Posted by: gravejoker

Is there some voice recognition software for PPC? You just speak and it can convert it to text?

Posted by: electrician

can anyone help me test call a video call ?

hi there , i just purchased a htc tytn and would like to know if anyone else has got it too, i am intersted in making a video call to test the phone, my email is electric4u@gmail.com , if you have a tytn conected to 3g cingular , please leave me your number and i will try to make a video call attempt

Posted by: gravejoker

Mate .. As goestoeleven already said, it doesnt work .. haven't heard anyone test it successfully ..

Posted by: Sgt_Strider

Quote:

Originally Posted by goestoeleven

and no front camera that we hope will soon be Skype-enabled...

Are there even any gurantees that Skype will support the front VGA camera for video conferencing? If not then I think it's time to put that issue to rest.

Posted by: Sgt_Strider

Quote:

Originally Posted by GSMspot

Head: 1.16
Body: 0.78
Measured in: 1900 MHz

http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/HTC...one-p_1636.html

Are those real pictures of the Cingular 8525? Or its a rendering?

Posted by: smokeyb111

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sgt_Strider

Are there even any gurantees that Skype will support the front VGA camera for video conferencing? If not then I think it's time to put that issue to rest.

I made this suggestion before. I think a third party app would be needed. Not sure if there is one available.

Posted by: aadadams

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sgt_Strider

Are those real pictures of the Cingular 8525? Or its a rendering?

Those appear to be photoshop'ed renderings. The circle covering the camera is a giveaway.

Posted by: gravejoker

check a few pages back in the thread ... someone posted real pics of the 8525 ..

Posted by: penguinsfan

Quote:

Originally Posted by GSMspot

Head: 1.16
Body: 0.78
Measured in: 1900 MHz

http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/HTC...one-p_1636.html

Thanks -- I guess that's not too bad or too great. Not enough to keep me from buying, that's for sure.

By the way, for anyone who's interested, I found this when looking up SAR (specific absorption rate -- i.e., radiation emitted) information: http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-6602-5020355.html?tag=lnav

Enjoy!

Posted by: kirbo20

I just found this on CSP however still no specific launch date.

"Cingular 8525 is $399.99 after $50 MIR, PDA Connect Plan, Voice Plan $59.99 and higher, and 2-year contract agreement"

Posted by: RF9

Quote:

Originally Posted by kirbo20

I just found this on CSP however still no specific launch date.

"Cingular 8525 is $399.99 after $50 MIR, PDA Connect Plan, Voice Plan $59.99 and higher, and 2-year contract agreement"

That's $50 lower than what was previously posted. An earlier post quoted "$449.99 with 2yr after $50 mail in rebate"
Anyway, Hope that's right. This is good news assuming I can get the same price for an 'upgrade' through the premiere site.
Thanks for posting that.

Posted by: kirbo20

These pics were off of Cingular University so I would think this is what it is going to look like.

• Full QWERTY keyboard, without sacrificing a large screen and trackwheel for ease of navigation

• All of the capabilities of a phone with Push-to-Talk (service will require a software upgrade in 2007), camera (Cingular 8525) or no camera (Cingular 8500) and many accessories

• Numerous connection capabilities - integrated WiFi(802.11b/g), Bluetooth 2.0 (to support additional Bluetooth profiles and multiple pairings), infrared or tether to a PC and use the Cingular 8500/8525 device as a modem

• GPS capabilities with TeleNav service subscription

• Sync and play MP3s and other music and video files with Windows Media Player 10 Mobile

• Multimedia support for MP3s and other music files, video, MobiTV, 2.0 MP camera with video

• Additional storage - up to 2 GB - via MicroSD card slot

Posted by: baller4ever85

so what type of plan do you have to get to get the rebate? 59.99 just for voice?????? if so thats too much for me, and i think ill just get an unlocked tytyn.

Posted by: berdinkerdickle

What's the Advantage of waiting for the 8525 over Tytn?

Posted by: RF9

Quote:

Originally Posted by berdinkerdickle

What's the Advantage of waiting for the 8525 over Tytn?

1) Price $400 upgrade after rebate, $600 no contract price. TyTn is [EDIT] $700
2) Garunteed to work with Cingular with no issues.
3) 30 day return policy
4) Warantee
5) Push to talk feature (future)
Otherwise none.

Posted by: goestoeleven

The 8525 price is total conjecture at this point... it may well be higher...

The average price for a TyTn is now around $700 (unlocked and no contract, but certainly lacking in the carrier support & warranty).

Posted by: RF9

Quote:

Originally Posted by baller4ever85

so what type of plan do you have to get to get the rebate? 59.99 just for voice?????? if so thats too much for me, and i think ill just get an unlocked tytyn.

Qualified voice plan is $40 or higher. Must also have the $40 unlimited data plan for the rebate. You can change or remove the data plan after you get the rebate check.

You can forgo the $50 rebat if you don't want the data plan or want MediaMax instead. It's still $100 to $250 cheaper than the TyTn.

Posted by: RF9

Quote:

Originally Posted by goestoeleven

The 8525 price is total conjecture at this point... it may well be higher...

The average price for a TyTn is now around $700 (unlocked and no contract, but certainly lacking in the carrier support & warranty).

Then get the TyTn.
I'd rather pay $500 or less than $700 since I qualify for an upgrade. Especially since I'll be buying 2 (My wife wants one now.)

I just checked the price, you're right. I'm seeing $700 for the first time now (not bad!) At that price it's hard to argue for waiting for the 8525, especially if you're paying the no-contract full price ($100 diff.)

I don't think the price is conjecture since it's in the CSP. It has dropped $50 in CSP in the last week or so (so you're absolutely right, it could always change.) What the "upgrade" discount price (not new contract) is, however, unknown. I know Premiere always matches new contract price, but not everyone has premiere.

Posted by: goestoeleven

News to me re: CSP (hopefully they're getting closer to figuring out what they'll really be charging...

)

Posted by: RF9

Quote:

Originally Posted by goestoeleven

News to me re: CSP (hopefully they're getting closer to figuring out what they'll really be charging...

)

See post 1211 higher on this page ^^^^
An earlier post several pages back said $50 more than that when they checked CSP.
Earlier post quoted:
$600 no contract. $500 2year price. $450 after mail in rebate.
Latest post: $450 2year price. $400 after $50 mail in rebate. (no mention of no-contract price, I assume still $600. But it could have been lowered to $550... but I doubt it.)

Posted by: kirbo20

Quote:

Originally Posted by RF9

Qualified plan is $59.99 or higher

Posted by: goestoeleven

sounds like a good deal (let's hope they ship sometime before the holidays!)

Posted by: kirbo20

Quote:

Originally Posted by RF9

No Contract price is currently set to $599.99 on most recent price sheet dated 10/01/2006.

Posted by: Ihavenosignal

Paying $500 or more for a phone is ridiculous.

Posted by: kirbo20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ihavenosignal

Paying $500 or more for a phone is ridiculous.

It's not just a phone it's much more. 2 years ago people were paying $500.00 for a razr now that was ridiculous. ( I am guilty)

Posted by: Sgt_Strider

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ihavenosignal

Paying $500 or more for a phone is ridiculous.

Your statement is ridiculous.

Posted by: Ihavenosignal

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sgt_Strider

Your statement is ridiculous.

lol alright whatever floats your boat. I'll just lmao at your stupidity. Any one with a brain knows that your getting ripped off when you spend more then $500 on a phone. If you can actually justify it to me and show me how its worth that money then go ahead...

but I'd love to see someones reaction in real life for you telling them that you spent $500 + on your phone hahahaahaahah, they would think your a nerd.

Posted by: berdinkerdickle

Where is this Going?

Posted by: netboy

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ihavenosignal

u are a damn fool! 500$ for a phone, that is nothing! i spent 700$ on a tytn! laught at that! haha

Posted by: CPcrazyfly

if u have the money to do so, go ahead, i certainly dont therefore its hard for me to understand it, doesnt mean i dont believe it happens tho.

Posted by: maevro

I don't have a computer at work, I use my 8125 for my email, my phone, my iPod, internet, IM and games. To me, it was worth every penny that I spent on it. The reason I want to get something like the E62 is because I want something a little thinner for my pocket.

Thats like saying, "You spend $100,000 on a Porsche?? You could have spent $18,000 on a Honda! Man, you got ripped off". It is all relative, like someone said, if you have the money, go for it.

Posted by: baller4ever85

Quote:

Originally Posted by RF9

Can you explain to me what MediaMax is? I would rather pay $650-700 for a phone then spend $20x24=480 more on some plan I couldn't afford over the long term. I am in college and funds are tight but I really want this phone. Im out of contract with Tmobile but I plan on switching to Cingular soon.

Posted by: gravejoker

You need a data plan to enjoy the data capabilities on the 8525/TyTN. Typically people get either MediaNet 200 ($19.99) or PDAConnect ($39.99), with a voice plan.

Posted by: wierdo

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sgt_Strider

Your statement is ridiculous.

It is rather a lot of money. I paid $450 (including shipping) for an E61 less than a week after its release. I thought it was high, but I was still willing to pay because it's exactly what I want in a phone. An extra $150 for HSDPA and a marginally useful touchscreen seems steep. (I don't quite get why it's seen as a good thing to have to break out the stylus most of the times you want to do something with the phone)

$700 for the TyTN is actually more bearable to me, for two reasons, first, it's not carrier branded, locked, or crippled, second, one could have paid that $700 long, long before Cingular released the 8525.

I'm still considering buying the thing, but at that price, I think I'll wait for it to come down a bit before biting. I was considering buying both an E62 and an 8525...

Does anyone have any indication what the retail price on Premier will be? Will it be inflated, or decent?

Posted by: pcman

Quote:

Originally Posted by gravejoker

You need a data plan to enjoy the data capabilities on the 8525/TyTN. Typically people get either MediaNet 200 ($19.99) or PDAConnect ($39.99), with a voice plan.

I have the Unlimited Net plan at $19 for my 8125 .
THis plan was carried over from my 2125 phone which I now use the sim in my 8125.
I don't get text messages or anything like that just the Net.
I can use it with my Laptop etc.
DOes this mean if I get a 8125 /TyTn without a plan and put in my sim card I won't get HSDPA unless I pay for the PDA plan.
As far as I know the network doesn't know what phone I'm using or plan I'm using correct ??

thanks

Posted by: RF9

Quote:

Originally Posted by pcman

You can still use Media Net, and you'll get HSDPA. You could even call and have them convert that media net plan to Media max. Just don't talk about your phone. Say you have a razr if they ask (you got it off ebay.) But they won't ask.

Posted by: gravejoker

Interesting TyTN, P990i and E70 comparision here:

http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/feat...us_HTC_TyTN.php

Posted by: RF9

Quote:

Originally Posted by kirbo20

Qualified plan is $59.99 or higher

Where do you see that? Are we looking at the same rebate form?
The rebate form I'm looking at says "Cingular Voice Plan $39.99 or higher plus Unlimited Data Feature or 1 or 2-year Unlimited Data Rate Plan for modem cards which do not require a voice plan."
It also says:
"***Requires activation on an unlimited data feature/rate plan plus a Cingular wireless voice plan with a monthly access fee of $39.99."
http://onlinestorez.cingular.com/ce...0_5010_1646.pdf

So where does $59.99 come from?

[EDIT] Oh DUH! I just went back to your earlier post where you quote CSP specificying the $60 rate plan.
Still there's a contraditiction with the current rebate form.
Anywho...what if you're on a Family Talk plan?

Thanks

Posted by: maevro

The 8525 has been pushed to Feb 2007 because of issues my buddy who works at a corporate Cingular
has informed me. He has been pretty on point with his info. He used to be a java programmer for Verizon Wireless.

Posted by: RF9

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ihavenosignal

Paying $500 or more for a phone is ridiculous.

While yes, it's ridiculous, not it's not unjustifiable.
1) It's not a phone, it's a computer with built in wireless data. The name "Pocket PC" isn't just cleaver marketing, it's descriptive. Albeit it's a very limited computer compared to a full PC, it does most of the mobile taks one wants or needs.
2) A laptop computer cost $1K minimum (way more if you want something decent.) A pocket PC at $500 doesn't seem disproportional.
3) $500 doesn't feel like a lot of money compared to the prices of other monthly expenses (clothes, shoes, car maintenance, gas, food, home repair, dog food, blah blah blah.) Oh yeah, my mortgage which clocks in close to $4K/month. What can I say, there's no such thing as cheap real estate in California.
4) The money a mobile PC helps me make (or not lose) in the stock market makes up for the $300 extra cost over a normal phone.
5) It's a cool *** toy. An XBOX 360 will set you back $500, one one might get just as much entertainment value out of a PPC than game console.

Finally. Wouldn't posting such a comment on this forum officially be considered trolling?

Posted by: RF9

Quote:

Originally Posted by maevro

The 8525 has been pushed to Feb 2007 because of issues my buddy who works at a corporate Cingular
has informed me. He has been pretty on point with his info. He used to be a java programmer for Verizon Wireless.

You, sir, are pulling our leg. If you can mention some of those issues, I'd be more inclined to believe you.
So are you going to get the TyTn instead? You said you'd probabally do so if the 8525 doesn't come out by Dec.

Posted by: Havoc21

Quote:

Originally Posted by maevro

Until i see something other than heresay.... I call bs, and don't you mean he used to be a java crippler for vzw?

Posted by: RF9

For what it's worth, the poeple over on xda-developers forum are *****ing about the 1.34 ROM being real buggy. So if they hadn't nailed down a release ROM prior to 1.34, then a delay is possible. I still don't know about "pushed back to 2007" considering Cingular "releases a phone when it's ready." Unless they found some huge specific problem this late in the game or decided to wait for PTT to work, I find it hard to believe they've decided to arbitrarily delay it 4+ months.

Posted by: RF9

Quote:

Originally Posted by baller4ever85

1) The 8525 should be $450 (based on the latest post about it's price in the Customer Service Portal)
2) You can get the $40 voice plan. You do NOT need to get any add on features like a data plan. If you do this (minimal plan) then you can't get the the $50 mail in rebate. But so what? You're giving up a $50 rebate for $480+ savings over a couple of years.
3) MediaMax200 ($20/month) is an unlimited data plan for phones. It's officially not available for a PDA (You're supposed to get the $40 PDA plan.) However, MediaMax will still work on a PDA just as well if you can get it (not eligible for the mail in rebate.) You just have to be persistent and a tad bit creative to get them to add Media Max to your account to use with a PDA. (you call and ask for it, if and only if they ask what phone you have, tell them you aren't using it with your PDA, that you sold the PDA and got a Razr off of ebay, they'll believe you.)
To use internet data over Cingular on a phone or PDA, you'll pay per KB in data unless you have an unlimited data plan. You do not use voice minutes to access the internet, that's separate.
4) if you want to save money, you can use the WiFi feature on the 8525, but you'll only get internet when near a WiFi free hot spot. WiFi usage is does not go over Cingular's network, it goes over whoever WiFi you're using.

Honestly T-Mobiles is cheaper. You can pay full price for a TyTn and stay on T-Mobile. I think you can still do the proxy workaround on T-Mobile to get unlimited data for $8/month (T-Mobile Web/aka T-Zones.) Also T-Mobile has cheaper rate plans with more minutes.
You won't get to use 3G on T-Mobile, but you may not be able to use 3G on Cingular unless they have 3G where you go to school. T-Mobile will be adding 3G in about a year.
Otherwise $40 voice + $20 Media Max ($60 month) is about the cheapest route you can go on Cingular to have voice and unlimited data. Just forget about the mail in rebate. Also going with Cingular you can get the 8525 for $450 instead of a TyTn at $700, but you have to wait (God knows how long) for it to be released.

Just some suggestions.

Posted by: gravejoker

Quote:

Originally Posted by maevro

Are you serious? Can someone corraborate this information?

If that's the case, I am buying a TyTN ...

Posted by: maevro

Quote:

Originally Posted by RF9

Listen, I cannot say this is 100% accurate what he told me. I went to see the E62 and we were talking about the 8525. He told me that it was originally planned to be released this month, but they had a bunch of issues with software and decided to hold back the phone. He told me by Feb 2007, but you all think I am bs'ing you, so I don't know what to tell you. He has been right before as he told me about the 8125 before it came out and he told me about other info that has been pretty correct.

Why would I bs anyone here? I have no reason to at all, I am just repeating what info he gave to me. I know he was interested in it also and was pretty annoyed with the info. I will ask him what the issues were & if he can get some more info.

I purchased the E62 today instead. I fugure that I can use this for a while and get the 8525 eventually.

You would think that if Cingular stores were getting them this month that they would have a little more info on them, right? Don't shoot the messenger, please - I am only trying to help.

Posted by: RF9

Sorry, my bad. I was just shooting the messenger. I'm angry at the news and my kneed jerk reaction was to "BS!" Sometimes people just post crap like that to get a rise out of us. But you have never done such a thing (and don't believe you did or would) so I have no reason to doubt you. I know you want it too. I apologize
I fear that you're right. I wish we could know definitively so I know to just give up and get a TyTn or something else.

As for "they would have a little more info on them" that's debatable. Some phones drop without any warning to the stores. Additionally, the stores have been saying late October and it's supposedly it's on a sheet. It just seems like everyone is coming on saying the stores are telling them this month. It just seems we keep hearing one thing after another pointing to an Oct. release.

"Feb 2007" just seems so out of the blue and contrary from the trend of rumors. But I'm not surprised. The 8125 had the same thing happen. So this very well could be (as we were warned by the pessimist's.)

#@$!#$@#$!$@$@$@@!$!$!!!$!!$$@$@

Now if we see other people coming on with similar rumors. I'm outa here. I'll just get something else.

Posted by: berdinkerdickle

Where's a Cing 3G Smartphone??? No Where in sight

Posted by: gravejoker

Quote:

Originally Posted by RF9

"Feb 2007" just seems so out of the blue and contrary from the trend of rumors. But I'm not surprised. The 8125 had the same thing happen. So this very well could be (as we were warned by the pessimist's.)

#@$!#$@#$!$@$@$@@!$!$!!!$!!$$@$@

Now if we see other people coming on with similar rumors. I'm outa here. I'll just get something else.

I think we just need to follow the pessimists .. and just get a TyTN .. WTF

Posted by: kirbo20

Quote:

Originally Posted by maevro

That would be 4-5 months down the road how can anyone know that? Cingular doesn't know when they are releasing a phone until it's released so I doubt a sales rep knows. Not to be hasty but I need proof.

Posted by: Jakaroe808

This thread is always such a downer...

Posted by: KlamshellKing

I got a 3125 to keep me busy and to see if I need smartphone or PPC. So that way ill know if i want the i607, treo 750, or the 8525... And so it can keep my sane before these are released

Posted by: Naveen

Quote:

Originally Posted by RF9

For what it's worth, the poeple over on xda-developers forum are *****ing about the 1.34 ROM being real buggy. So if they hadn't nailed down a release ROM prior to 1.34, then a delay is possible. I still don't know about "pushed back to 2007" considering Cingular "releases a phone when it's ready." Unless they found some huge specific problem this late in the game or decided to wait for PTT to work, I find it hard to believe they've decided to arbitrarily delay it 4+ months.

4 months. half of me can belive it because i remember the time it took cingular to get the v3i out. some of the problems were from cingular and some from moto, but i can just imagine how much they need to test on the tytn to make sure it is as perfect as it can be before they start selling it. i hope it is this month because i am sick of every other carrier getting new phones and we as cingular customers have three new phones in the last two months

Posted by: Naveen

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jakaroe808

This thread is always such a downer...

maybe it is time to buy a tytn and stop waiting for the 8525??? i am debating now if i should start saving for a tytn and promise myself not to buy a new phones for the next two to three years

Posted by: berdinkerdickle

If I do decide to buy the Tytn now, where would you guys recommend getting it?

Posted by: RF9

Quote:

Originally Posted by KlamshellKing

I got a 3125 to keep me busy and to see if I need smartphone or PPC. So that way ill know if i want the i607, treo 750, or the 8525... And so it can keep my sane before these are released

So far what's the verdict? I thought of doing the same. I had hoped to get both.
But I may just get the TyTn (the cost of an 8252 + 3125 together. outch)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Naveen

maybe it is time to buy a tytn and stop waiting for the 8525??? i am debating now if i should start saving for a tytn and promise myself not to buy a new phones for the next two to three years

Good point. I had intended this one would take care of me for 2 years. I think it's a bit premature to jump the gun. I'd like to wait a couple of weeks and see how the news flushes out. When a delay becomes definite I'll get the TyTn then.
On the other hand, if I'm going to get the TyTn I hate to wait at all. I just don't want to get the TyTn, then the next week find out the 8525 is coming for nearly 1/2 the price.
I just promised myself I'd get a subsidized one this time and not spend $700 (did that on the last 2 Treos, and still cringe today thinking how much I spent...always X2 (for my wife)) But Feb is out of control, way too long to wait. By then it'll be old and I'll be waiting for the next HTC device to come out.
I'm going to calm down, and try to forget about this for a few days and stay off this thread. Maybe I should just get a refurb 8125 for $200 tide me over. But if I do that I might as well just put that $200 toward the TyTn and get 3G right away. Sigh...

Posted by: gravejoker

Once again .. here you go ..

a. PSU (PhoneSourceUSA)
b. MMB (MadMonkeyBoy)
c. SMG (SmartMobileGadgets)

Posted by: gravejoker

Quote:

Originally Posted by RF9

So far what's the verdict? I thought of doing the same. I had hoped to get both.
But I may just get the TyTn (the cost of an 8252 + 3125 together. outch)Good point. I had intended this one would take care of me for 2 years. I think it's a bit premature to jump the gun. I'd like to wait a couple of weeks and see how the news flushes out. When a delay becomes definite I'll get the TyTn then.
On the other hand, if I'm going to get the TyTn I hate to wait at all. I just don't want to get the TyTn, then the next week find out the 8525 is coming for nearly 1/2 the price.
I just promised myself I'd get a subsidized one this time and not spend $700 (did that on the last 2 Treos, and cringe today.) But Feb is out of control, way too long to wait. Bu then it'll be old and I'll be waiting for the next HTC device to come out.
I'm going to calm down, and try to forget about this for a few days and stay off this thread. Maybe I should just get a refurb 8125 for $200 tide me over. But if I do that I might as well just pay the extra for the TyTn. Sigh...

dude ... what are we going to do ..

And by Oct/Nov .. all the other HTC devices are getting released .. Trinity, Artemis .. "decisions, decisions .. "

Posted by: berdinkerdickle

Quote:

Originally Posted by gravejoker

Once again .. here you go ..

a. PSU (PhoneSourceUSA)
b. MMB (MadMonkeyBoy)
c. SMG (SmartMobileGadgets)

I'm Sorry

I think i'm getting some sorta Thread Blindness

Posted by: Naveen

Quote:

Originally Posted by RF9

So far what's the verdict? I thought of doing the same. I had hoped to get both.
But I may just get the TyTn (the cost of an 8252 + 3125 together. outch)Good point. I had intended this one would take care of me for 2 years. I think it's a bit premature to jump the gun. I'd like to wait a couple of weeks and see how the news flushes out. When a delay becomes definite I'll get the TyTn then.
On the other hand, if I'm going to get the TyTn I hate to wait at all. I just don't want to get the TyTn, then the next week find out the 8525 is coming for nearly 1/2 the price.
I just promised myself I'd get a subsidized one this time and not spend $700 (did that on the last 2 Treos, and still cringe today thinking how much I spent...always X2 (for my wife)) But Feb is out of control, way too long to wait. By then it'll be old and I'll be waiting for the next HTC device to come out.
I'm going to calm down, and try to forget about this for a few days and stay off this thread. Maybe I should just get a refurb 8125 for $200 tide me over. But if I do that I might as well just put that $200 toward the TyTn and get 3G right away. Sigh...

i totally know what you mean. the last two smartphones that i bought were for full price. the only reason i am hoping that the 8525 drops soon is so that i can sleep at night knowing that i can call someone if my unit begins to go crazy. i am hoping to wait this month out and then if nothing happens i will go for a tytn or a trinity. i just cant wait for cingular to test the crap out of a phone and then keep us waiting and then decide not to carry it and then i am stuck with nothing in my hands. i can understand that cingular wants a near perfect device in our hands but then why can all of the other carriers get phones in their customer's hands so much faster?!?

Posted by: berdinkerdickle

I've just been reading up on what I can find here at hofo on Tytn w/Cing
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=964345

Posted by: RF9

Quote:

Originally Posted by gravejoker

dude ... what are we going to do ..

And by Oct/Nov .. all the other HTC devices are getting released .. Trinity, Artemis .. "decisions, decisions .. "

I'm not worried about the HTC devies that have been announced. None of them are a "better" TyTn, they are all different variations (keyboardless TyTn, a Treo-like device without 3G, etc.) The TyTn remains the 'best' all in one PPC right now and for near future. But if you wait til Feb to get the 8525, you will probably be hearing about the next one. Will we care? You'll still have to wait a long time for it. You can't always just keep waiting.
When the 8125 came out I said "I'll wait for the 3G model." TyTn/8125 is it.
Of course the Samsung i607 smart phone is looking pretty good, I wonder what the price will be?
Again, I'll give this 'til Oct 31 for news either way considering previous news was saying "October." If it's not here by then, we know it has probabally really been delayed 'til next year. I'll see if I can afford anything after puting a new $11K roof on my house.

Posted by: gravejoker

Quote:

Originally Posted by RF9

Again, I'll give this 'til Oct 31 for news either way considering previous news was saying "October." If it's not here by then, we know it has probabally really been delayed 'til next year. I'll see if I can afford anything after puting a new $11K roof on my house.

I think I am going to go the same route .. Tho I can wait only until Oct 15th .. that will be the end of my patience ..

Posted by: KlamshellKing

RF9, i have yet to physically get it (probably around 8 tonight). But i changed my name in honor of getting it. After i play around with it for a week i may do a review and comparison with the 8525... I think i dont need ppc and the touchscreen gets me bothered at times. Thats why i want the i607. And ill be selling either the 8125 or 3125 after i reach a verdict. I would have bought the 8525 had it come out by now. If it comes out on the 5th ill cry. Actually maybe not, because i can sell the 3125 and 8125 for 300 each and get it. We'll see!

Posted by: maevro

Quote:

Originally Posted by KlamshellKing

RF9, i have yet to physically get it (probably around 8 tonight). But i changed my name in honor of getting it. After i play around with it for a week i may do a review and comparison with the 8525... I think i dont need ppc and the touchscreen gets me bothered at times. Thats why i want the i607. And ill be selling either the 8125 or 3125 after i reach a verdict. I would have bought the 8525 had it come out by now. If it comes out on the 5th ill cry. Actually maybe not, because i can sell the 3125 and 8125 for 300 each and get it. We'll see!

You see, I love the E62 I bought today, but I do miss the touchscreen. I don't miss the thickness though...

Why with the 8125 when I goto a website like espn, I get a mobile version page, but when I use the E62, I get a actual web page with pictures and all?

Posted by: KlamshellKing

Quote:

Originally Posted by maevro

I didnt like the e61 too much, although im sorta missing it... weird. but goto google and type in espn ppc... thats what i always use... its the best one for mobiles.

How much did you get the e62 for??

Posted by: RF9

Quote:

Originally Posted by maevro

I read that there's a registry hack for Pocket IE to make it report itself as "Internet Explorer 6.0" instead of "Pocket IE." As a result you get the "real" sites instead of the mobile sites. I'll see if I can find that post. The poster said "It works better after the registry hack."
This might fix your 'problem'.

Well this isn't the post I was referring to, but it talks about the registry edit. You might want to do some more hunting around.
http://www.howardforums.com/showthr...r#post7488 821

You can try the following settings (From Windows XP, IE 6):
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Win32)

Posted by: tremcotexas

I could not wait anymore. I ordered Jasjam and it will arrive tomorrow. Paid $150.00 more versus the Tytn but I like the form factor and from what I have seen the updates from HTC have been even more lacking than what I have seen with I-mate. Anyway, I will let ya know what I think. If the 8525 goes next week I will be a little dissapointed; however, I am convinced Cinuglar is going to launch Video Calling in the next 6 months and I would have to get another up-grade anyways (I really want that feature for the family!). Good Luck To ALL!!!

Posted by: maevro

Quote:

Originally Posted by RF9

Thanks, but I actually did that hack a while back and it still didnt work. Some websites went to the 'actual site', but there still were a few that didn't.

Anyway, the E62's browser is great, I am loving it much more than ie.

Quote:

Originally Posted by KlamshellKing

I paid $200 & I am mailing in a $50 rebate. I have a buyer for my 8125 for $250, so I am all good.

Posted by: USCMeche

Quote:

Originally Posted by tremcotexas

I could not wait anymore. I ordered Jasjam and it will arrive tomorrow. Paid $150.00 more versus the Tytn but I like the form factor and from what I have seen the updates from HTC have been even more lacking than what I have seen with I-mate. Anyway, I will let ya know what I think. If the 8525 goes next week I will be a little dissapointed; however, I am convinced Cinuglar is going to launch Video Calling in the next 6 months and I would have to get another up-grade anyways (I really want that feature for the family!). Good Luck To ALL!!!

Let us know how the form factor is. I played with the Tytn and the buttons weren't that bad. I am curious to see how the jasjam is, plus I love the black color. Thanks!

Posted by: gravejoker

Quote:

Originally Posted by tremcotexas

Where did you get your JASJAM from?

Posted by: tremcotexas

Quote:

Originally Posted by gravejoker

Where did you get your JASJAM from?

GBT Mobile. Egadgetdepot has the best deal at 849.00 with Car Charger & Screen Protector but will not have it until Friday. I got too impatient. I do not see how imatephonestore sells much with their prices compared to the others.

Posted by: maevro

Quote:

Originally Posted by tremcotexas

God stuff man, congrats. Please tell us how it is once you get it & post some pics!

Posted by: inexco

Cingular messing with the TyTn (removing the front camera)
may have been enough to delay production / delivery to U.S.

I cursed Cingular with the above opinion.

I really don't want the keyboard on the 8525 / TyTn.
I really just want a HTC Trinity.

Interesting price has been $150+ more than TyTn. and Trinity does not
have a keyboard.

I am waiting for the 8525 to re-up a contract. Son had phone stolen at school and I now have a 2 year committment (tail) on the plan he is on.

I could not run my business the way Cingular/ATT/T-Mobile/Verizon do.
They all complain and pay lip service to Churn and do nothing to keep the customers they have.

Posted by: kirbo20

My guy at the Cingular warehouse is still saying Oct 4 as the day to be able to order it.

Posted by: RF9

I think the Trinity is more expensive than the TyTn because it's newer. The TyTn was $900 about 1 month ago, now it's $700.

Posted by: charlie8525

Quote:

Originally Posted by kirbo20

My guy at the Cingular warehouse is still saying Oct 4 as the day to be able to order it.

I hope that you are right...I have been waiting a long time. Are you a Cingular employee? Is your warehouse guy usually right and when does he think the stores will get them?

What about all of the ROM issues we keep reading about?

Thanks...

Posted by: gravejoker

Quote:

Originally Posted by kirbo20

My guy at the Cingular warehouse is still saying Oct 4 as the day to be able to order it.

Well .. 10/4 is just around the corner .. so need not wait that long .. let's see my friend what happens ..

Posted by: I have a phone

Quote:

Originally Posted by kirbo20

My guy at the Cingular warehouse is still saying Oct 4 as the day to be able to order it.

so that makes the day it's actually available as???

Posted by: wierdo

Quote:

Originally Posted by maevro

Thanks, but I actually did that hack a while back and it still didnt work. Some websites went to the 'actual site', but there still were a few that didn't.

Many sites (Google is the one that bothers me most) detect Cingular's NAT pool addresses and send requests from those addresses to their WAP search. It was a source of constant frustration for me before I lost my E61.

Most maddeningly, it worked perfectly over WiFi, since Google didn't know to be too smart for their own good in that case.

Posted by: kirbo20

Quote:

Originally Posted by charlie8525

Yeah he was right about the E62 and the W810i. Our warehouse that we order from is shut down this week for training. So early this morning we placed an order and included the 8525 he still can't order them. He said he would try and get in Wednesday and place our order for the 8525. So unless something changes between now and Wednesday I expect them Friday.

Posted by: I have a phone

Quote:

Originally Posted by kirbo20

So unless something changes between now and Wednesday I expect them Friday.

I would strongly suggest you not promise that to your customers

Posted by: Naveen

Quote:

Originally Posted by kirbo20

i really hope it comes out this week. my wife thinks i am a bit obsessed about this phone. i need some

from cingular on this one!

Posted by: RF9

Quote:

Originally Posted by kirbo20

My guy at the Cingular warehouse is still saying Oct 4 as the day to be able to order it.

Feel free to keep posting this stuff. It's the only thing keeping my sanity. I think Me, Naveen, Gravejoker, and a few others need to attend group therapy.
I guess we'll know in 3 days.

Posted by: Naveen

Quote:

Originally Posted by RF9

Feel free to keep posting this stuff. It's the only thing keeping my sanity. I think Me, Naveen, Gravejoker, and a few others need to attend group therapy.
I guess we'll know in 3 days.

its the truth. i dont know what will happen this month if the 8525 does not come out.

Posted by: SrchingForSignl

Quote:

Originally Posted by RF9

Feel free to keep posting this stuff. It's the only thing keeping my sanity. I think Me, Naveen, Gravejoker, and a few others need to attend group therapy.
I guess we'll know in 3 days.

We don't need therapy, we need a prayer:

Oratio Herminica
Our device, which art in Warehouse,
Hallowed be thy ship date.
Thy featureset come.
Thy will be mine, in earth as it is in daydreams.
Give us this day our daily optimistic postings.
And forgive us our lustings as we forgive them who lust after square, untouchable screens.
And lead us not into Symbation; but deliver us from Palm.
For thine is the HSDPA, the QWERTY, and the 802.11g forever.
Amen.

Posted by: RF9

Quote:

Originally Posted by SrchingForSignl

We don't need therapy, we need a prayer:
Oratio Herminica
Our device, which art in Warehouse,
Hallowed be thy ship date.
Thy featureset come.
Thy will be mine, in earth as it is in daydreams.
Give us this day our daily optimistic postings.
And forgive us our lustings as we forgive them who lust after square, untouchable screens.
And lead us not into Symbation; but deliver us from Palm.
For thine is the HSDPA, the QWERTY, and the 802.11g forever.
Amen.

Dude! That is Huh-larious! "...but deliver us drom Palm." .... BAHAHAH!

Posted by: anubis9278

this phone/pda will not support ptt until 2007? whats up with that

Posted by: D0lphin

I think you need to need to add a couple Hail Mary's prayers to that.

Posted by: berdinkerdickle

Quote:

Originally Posted by anubis9278

this phone/pda will not support ptt until 2007? whats up with that

Would you rather they hold of releasing it until they get ptt worked out?

Posted by: gravejoker

Quote:

Originally Posted by D0lphin

I think you need to need to add a couple Hail Mary's prayers to that.

I am not even commenting on what might be required to have this one released ..

I think I am pretty close to taking the plunge now ..

Posted by: charlie8525

what needs to happen for this tread to go from "testing" to "approved" to "released" how do the mods know when the next step happens? Is it hearsay, rumors, or actual facts from cingular themselves?

Posted by: berdinkerdickle

I say the mods start a new Sticky Thread entitled: "Cingular Released the 8525"
And ask all to not post in it unless they have facts that it's available.
And then we can subscribe to that Thread and choose 'Instant Notification', and as soon as someone posts in it saying it's released, we can all continue our conversation over there. And we won't have to keep checking over here.

Posted by: ManOfGod

Quote:

Originally Posted by SrchingForSignl

I have been following this thread as a spectator for a few months now. Just like the rest of you, I await the 8525's arrival.

However, it is this very post above that got me to throw in my hat and register. SrchingForSignl, you gave me my laugh for the day. A little sacrilegeous, but well thought out!

Anyway, now that I have jumped in the pool with you groupies, I thought I would share what the word on the street is in my locale. October is the word. I have casually visited three different stores in my market and had a few conversations with customer service and they concur. I have not yet heard of any delays because of ROM or testing issues. I suppose such delays are possible because history (8125) has a tendency to repeat itself.

So, basically, I am just adding one more member to the waiting party.

Posted by: Tastypeppers

Quote:

Originally Posted by berdinkerdickle

I say the mods start a new Sticky Thread entitled: "Cingular Released the 8525"
And ask all to not post in it unless they have facts that it's available.
And then we can subscribe to that Thread and choose 'Instant Notification', and as soon as someone posts in it saying it's released, we can all continue our conversation over there. And we won't have to keep checking over here.

Berd . . .

No baseless speculation? No self-induced hysteria? No logging in 3 times an hour just in case something might have happened?

Where's the fun?

Posted by: mentalcase

Quote:

Originally Posted by anubis9278

this phone/pda will not support ptt until 2007? whats up with that

The training course i took the other day for it said that it was going to be enabled. They would have atleast put a little asterik in the course.

Posted by: berdinkerdickle

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tastypeppers

Berd . . .

No baseless speculation? No self-induced hysteria? No logging in 3 times an hour just in case something might have happened?

Where's the fun?

What Was I Thinking!

Posted by: Nastronomical

Think it will be below 499?

Posted by: goestoeleven

There's really no reason to price it this low (let alone lower). It's a premium device that people will pay a premium for... I'd be as happy as the next guy if they did, though!

Posted by: ManOfGod

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nastronomical

Think it will be below 499?

$449 -$50 MIR with 2 yr and data plan would be ideal. It is also a number I have seen thrown around as a likely scenario.

Posted by: RF9

Quote:

Originally Posted by ManOfGod

$449 -$50 MIR with 2 yr and data plan would be ideal. It is also a number I have seen thrown around as a likely scenario.

2 days ago, Kirbo20 said:
"I just found this on CSP however still no specific launch date.
"Cingular 8525 is $399.99 after $50 MIR, PDA Connect Plan, Voice Plan $59.99 and higher, and 2-year contract agreement""
http://www.howardforums.com/showpos...&postcount=1211
It was later confirmed the no-contract price is still $599
However, what will the "Upgrade" price will be? I know I can get a 3125 through premiere for $95 with a new contract & data plan, but it's $285 as an upgrade.
If it'll be more than $500 'upgrade' price, then I can't for the life of me figure out why I'm waiting for the 8525 instead of buying a TyTn.

Quote:

Originally Posted by berdinkerdickle

Would you rather they hold of releasing it until they get ptt worked out?

Are you crazy man!? Have you gone Mad? If they waited for PTT to work we wouldn't see this phone for 6 months!

Seriously, though, I'm glad they aren't waiting. They'll ship a software update for PTT later when they get it ironed out. I can wait for PTT myself.

Posted by: berdinkerdickle

Earlier someone said they were getting a jasjam over a tytn.
Because of HTC not giving very good support for their devices.
Why, support & update wise, is one a better choice over the other?,
Isn't the Tytn, jasjam, & 8525 all made by HTC? And so all be the same reliabilty wise?

Posted by: anubis9278

Quote:

Originally Posted by mentalcase

The training course i took the other day for it said that it was going to be enabled. They would have atleast put a little asterik in the course.

i must have read it wrong. i thought it said it was enabled but wouldn't work until software upgrade in 2007.

Posted by: RF9

Quote:

Originally Posted by anubis9278

i must have read it wrong. i thought it said it was enabled but wouldn't work until software upgrade in 2007.

I think you're correct, that you'll need a software upgrade for it to work.
Kirbo20's post http://www.howardforums.com/showpos...&postcount=1213 from Cingular university states "...with Push-to-Talk (service will require a software upgrade in 2007),"
But this contradicts what mentalcase got in training.
So who's info is more up to date?

I guess we'll have to wait and see??

Posted by: tremcotexas

Quote:

Originally Posted by berdinkerdickle

Earlier someone said they were getting a jasjam over a tytn.
Because of HTC not giving very good support for their devices.
Why, support & update wise, is one a better choice over the other?,
Isn't the Tytn, jasjam, & 8525 all made by HTC? And so all be the same reliabilty wise?

It was me. And yes the jasjam is charging as I type this. I got the Jasjam because I liked the form factor more and from what I have read the service direct with HTC was no different than what I had originally seen with I-mate (rom-updates, forums, etc..); knowing full well whatever update I-Mate does-HTC must do first. Hey, it's my preference.. If Cingular launches the 8525 I'll buy it on premier and sell it on e-bay to get my extra $150 back I spent between the Tytn and the Jasjam price. Still Charging....I'll let ya know if the "U" comes on!

Posted by: goestoeleven

Quote:

Originally Posted by berdinkerdickle

I wouldn't buy anything from i-mate right now: they just got the Heismann from HTC and will likely not be selling anything manufactured by them in the future. In light of this fact (as a company historically 100% dependent on HTC), it is not outrageous to question their viability as an ongoing concern.

And yes, all the phones are made by HTC with different sets of lipstick...

Posted by: kirbo20

Another heart breaker, my RAE just showed me an email with the release date of the 8525. It says .................................................. .. 10/24/2006 so it looks like we have to be patient for a few more weeks.

This is my last post about the projected release date of the 8525. If it changes again I will keep it to myself.

Posted by: gravejoker

Quote:

Originally Posted by kirbo20

Another heart breaker, my RAE just showed me an email with the release date of the 8525. It says .................................................. .. 10/24/2006 so it looks like we have to be patient for a few more weeks.

This is my last post about the projected release date of the 8525. If it changes again I will keep it to myself.

What's an RAE?

Posted by: danbuhler

Quote:

Originally Posted by kirbo20

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

my wife is probably rejoicing somewhere!

Posted by: RF9

Hey, at least it's not Feb '07!! I'll take this date. At least it's consistent with "late Oct." which is what everyone else has been saying.
Although waiting does suck.

Posted by: ManOfGod

Quote:

Originally Posted by RF9

what will the "Upgrade" price will be? I know I can get a 3125 through premiere for $95 with a new contract & data plan, but it's $285 as an upgrade.
If it'll be more than $500 'upgrade' price, then I can't for the life of me figure out why I'm waiting for the 8525 instead of buying a TyTn.

I have had service with Cingular since they were Bellsouth Mobility, who I used to work for back in the mid 90's. My "inside information" to customers was that if you call and remind them of how much you spend, how long you have been with them, blah blah blah, you will eventually get the new customer price.

I have never paid full or upgrade pricing. Then again, I do not move between phones nearly as often as some of you folks.

Posted by: tremcotexas

I got the U! As this is not the right forum to post I can just say that the device will be worth the wait! Much better than the 8125. My first speed test!

Mobile speed test
774 kbit/sec
0.342s latency
10.92s d/l time.again.

Posted by: ManOfGod

RF9:

for example, the new customer price on a 3125 is $149 after rebates. Its not the same deal as premier, but you should be able to get this as your upgrade price if you engage in some intense fellowship over the phone. The stores will not do this, but if there are notes on your account from cust service, then you are good to go.

Posted by: benfica88

Quote:

Originally Posted by kirbo20
Another heart breaker, my RAE just showed me an email with the release date of the 8525. It says .................................................. .. 10/24/2006 so it looks like we have to be patient for a few more weeks.

This is my last post about the projected release date of the 8525. If it changes again I will keep it to myself.

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH !!!!!!!!!!!WTF

Posted by: RF9

Oddly the new customer price on premiere on the 3125 is $120. Then you get $25 off when ordering through the web site ($95 total before the $18 upgrade fee.) An 'upgrade only' on the other hand is $285.
WFT? That's more than double.
I'm going to call XBM and see if I can Sweet talk convince them that it's just a site glitch that won't give me the right price (since I meet the qualifications of the price anyway.) But when calling, you can't get upgrades as often, so I have to be careful and use the call in selectively. When you order through the premiere site, so far you can 'upgrade' as often as you like. But on the phone they won't always put the order through if you upgraded recently (I think every 6 months.)
I'm trying to pull off a 3125 and an 8525 for decent prices

So I am trying to work the system here (so I shouldn't complain.) I'd rather not screw up my ability to 'upgrade' to the 8525 by getting a 3125 today, but screw it, I don't care. I'll pay full price if I have to. Somehow I can reluctantly go up to $600 (ouch) but $700 for the TyTn is just feels too far over the reasonable limit. Don't ask me why I think this way.

Thanks for the tips you guys. I'll keep them in mind. Massage the system.

10/24/06 it is. On 10/26/06 I order a TyTn if the 8525 isn't out.

Posted by: KlamshellKing

RF9... wow. For the first hour I was about to cry i hated the 3125 so much. Now im hooked. I dont miss the keyboard too much. I think itll do everything i want it to do. Im thinking of getting rid of ppc all together and getting the i607. I only miss the slightly bigger screen. I wish it had 3g tho. the 3125 is awesome. I definitely recommend it. It does everything i need it to. Email, texts, phone, web, and otherstuff i havent even gotten to yet, and its small and a flip. Now i know why its recieved great reviews by mobiletechreview... i really like those guys' reviews alot. I would reccommend it, and enjoy it for a few months till the 8525 comes out. And sell your ridiculously old treo already

Posted by: RF9

Quote:

Originally Posted by KlamshellKing

RF9... wow. For the first hour I was about to cry i hated the 3125 so much. Now im hooked. I dont miss the keyboard too much. I think itll do everything i want it to do. Im thinking of getting rid of ppc all together and getting the i607. I only miss the slightly bigger screen. I wish it had 3g tho. the 3125 is awesome. I definitely recommend it. It does everything i need it to. Email, texts, phone, web, and otherstuff i havent even gotten to yet, and its small and a flip. Now i know why its recieved great reviews by mobiletechreview... i really like those guys' reviews alot. I would reccommend it, and enjoy it for a few months till the 8525 comes out. And sell your ridiculously old treo already

Thanks. That's why I'm interested in the 3125. It does everything I think I want.
I know I still want the 8525 for Wifi, larger screen (even though same res,) keyboard, and most important 3G. But I thought the 3215 would be PERFECT for much of the time. The only reason I held off was that I wanted to see if hte 8525 came out around now. I was going to try to get the 8525, then the 3125 a few days later on premiere. But the way things have shaped up, I'm giving in and just getting the 3125 now. I figure it will relieve my obsession with when the 8525 will come out, I'll be able to wait as long as I have to.
The Treo 650 pisses me off a little more each day. I've litterally had it with this thing. I'm days away from throwing off the roof of our 4 story office building.
Now.... how to explain to my wife that I'm buying the 3125 as well as the 8525 when we really just need a new couch.
I guess I'll just have to get that couch.

Posted by: SoberGuy

My wife's 3125 came yesterday. I had to swap everything from her 2125 to the 3125, played with her settings a bit, etc. Made a test call. Told her she needed to go get herself a new phone, and stuck the 3125 in my pocket. Too bad she didn't go for it. But it's nice, and I like it...

Back to the topic at hand... I'll probably wait for the 8525 to come out. I like having Cingular support if there's any issues, and I really can't justify any more than what Cingular pricing is being guesstimated at. I can barely justify that. Besides, we've heard it's off til the 24th, which is probably a tentative date (again). If someone confirms early next year, I may consider other options.

Kirbo, why no more posts about changes in date?

RF9: My wife gets couches like I get phones... Keeps us both happy I guess.

Posted by: kirbo20

Quote:

Originally Posted by SoberGuy

My wife's 3125 came yesterday. I had to swap everything from her 2125 to the 3125, played with her settings a bit, etc. Made a test call. Told her she needed to go get herself a new phone, and stuck the 3125 in my pocket. Too bad she didn't go for it. But it's nice, and I like it...

Back to the topic at hand... I'll probably wait for the 8525 to come out. I like having Cingular support if there's any issues, and I really can't justify any more than what Cingular pricing is being guesstimated at. I can barely justify that. Besides, we've heard it's off til the 24th, which is probably a tentative date (again). If someone confirms early next year, I may consider other options.

Kirbo, why no more posts about changes in date?

RF9: My wife gets couches like I get phones... Keeps us both happy I guess.

I don't want to keep posting things that are not confirmed.

Posted by: gravejoker

The date will only be confirmed when I see it with my own eyes ..

Posted by: ManOfGod

It sounds like Premier is the way to go based on the discounts you mentioned, RF9. You should have no problem getting under $400 with the 8525.

Unfortunately, I do not have a corporate account with Cingular.

RF9, you might need that couch for yourself to sleep on if the wife is against your spending spree.

kirbo20, it appears your info is right on with the reps I have spoken to here in South Florida. Oct 24 was what I just heard moments ago from one of three local stores I keep tabs with. He had me on speakerphone while he was looking at something related to the delay of the 8525's release. I asked about price and he had no comment after a short pause.

Relentless, I called national telesales as if I were getting new service. The guy I spoke to gave some clue as to pricing, but he was guessing at best. He said look for a $50-100 increase because it is brand new and "they know people have been asking for it like crazy". It makes me wonder if all the inquiries we are making is driving the price up. Is that possible?

Posted by: Prometheus2k2

8525 is hot.

Community, which is our device launch list says no phone launches in October.

I'm just about gonna guarantee that it'll be out by December, but I highly doubt an October Launch.

Stranger things have happened.

One Love,
Prom

Posted by: jahern

Basically, I am buying whichever one I can get my hands on first. I would love 3G, but I would also love to have a phone keypad again, as I can not stand dialing on the screen.

So, if nokiausa.com gets the E70-2 back in stock before the 8525, I will get that. If the 8525 pops up first, I will buy that.

Can you say time to market?

Posted by: anubis9278

umm concerning launch date. hasn't it been slated for the third week of october, tentatively, since september.

Posted by: Naveen

Quote:

Originally Posted by RF9

Hey, at least it's not Feb '07!! I'll take this date. At least it's consistent with "late Oct." which is what everyone else has been saying.
Although waiting does suck.

you, me and gravejoker can last till the 24th. after that there may need to be a sacrifice or mob uprising of some sort. my wife saw this thread and says that i need to keep my distance from here till october. i am wondering if that is legal or can i fight her on that

Posted by: SoberGuy

Let the wife win on that one. It's already October, no need to keep distance.

Posted by: berdinkerdickle

On one hand, I would hate to order the Tytn, and then a couple weeks later Cing releases the 8525.
But on the other hand, we need to quit letting these carriers give us the run-around, besides; often when they finally release it, they cripple certain features anyway.
On even another hand, (3-hands)
If we keep waiting long enough, something even better will come out.
So I save a couple hundred dollars waiting. Why? Man! I should have just bought the Tytn a long time ago. I've been packin around this ol beat-up treo long enough. (I posted pics at TC)
Ok, I like these ones who have posted a personal ultimatum, like: 'If the 8525 isn't out by such-&-such date, I'm buying the Tytn.'
Infact that's my new resolve. Anytime a cool new phone comes out that gives me what I want, I won't be waiting. Nope! never again will I desperately linger around these forums, hoping & waiting. Nope, No more!
Someone said they will wait until the 26th. Well, me too, I'm with you.

Posted by: gravejoker

Quote:

Originally Posted by Naveen

I am already sleeping on the couch ...

old phone dying .. dont know can wait for how long ..

old phone stay until 8525 released ..

Posted by: skidpalace

On Sunday, I'm meeting with someone extremely high up the food chain at Cingular and I will not rest until he gives me the straight dope on the 8525.
My only concern is that he is sooo high up that he might not be concerned with the release dates of all the specific phones.
He knows I want one, so I hope he is familiar with the status by the end of the week.
Then again, I hope it's a moot point and he puts an 8525 in my hand on Sunday.

Posted by: Naveen

Quote:

Originally Posted by skidpalace

On Sunday, I'm meeting with someone extremely high up the food chain at Cingular and I will not rest until he gives me the straight dope on the 8525.
My only concern is that he is sooo high up that he might not be concerned with the release dates of all the specific phones.
He knows I want one, so I hope he is familiar with the status by the end of the week.
Then again, I hope it's a moot point and he puts an 8525 in my hand on Sunday.

i would ride him for the info, as much as you can before driving that guy nuts! i asked some friends also at cingular that are pretty high up and they had no clue even what the 8125 was so it really depends upon who you talk to. hopefully you can get the info for all of us so we can make some decisions. i am beginning to wonder if i should start looking at the hp which is now approved, or should i wait for the 750, or look at the trinity. i think though the tytn (8525) and the trinity are the best out there and we should be patient. i am going to try and wait till the end of october and then make my decision.

Posted by: SrchingForSignl

Quote:

Originally Posted by skidpalace

Then again, I hope it's a moot point and he puts an 8525 in my hand on Sunday.

And... where could we find you on Sunday, if, say, we just wanted to look at your new phone???

Posted by: SrchingForSignl

This is probably a post for another thread, but I feel so loved here that I just want to ask you guys.

I'm currently a Verizon customer. My wife is a Cingular customer and has her own account. My mother has Cingular but I get her bill since I set up her account (I know, I'm a model son.)

My plan was to slam my Verizon number over to Cingular and get a brand new account. I really feel I am a new customer. THEN I'd add my mom and wife onto my account as part of a family plan.

Will that work? Will they balk when they see that I'm already getting a Cingular bill at my address? Will my pleas that I've never made a Cingular call in my life fall on deaf ears?

See what the 8525 is doing to us???

Posted by: Prometheus2k2

Well what do you want?

A free 8525? They're gonna laugh you out the door.

Contracts, as I tell everyone, are on a line by line basis. Meaning, you're a new activation, meaning people drool over you.

Bottom line: You can get something for whatever price you want as long as you are good at what you do. If you know what I mean.

I saw a guy get 6 SLVRS for 29 bux so anything is possible.

One Love,
Prom

Posted by: Balthazar_B

Quote:

Originally Posted by berdinkerdickle

If we keep waiting long enough, something even better will come out.

Like the HTC Herald.

A lighter, thinner TyTN with GPS. Then the cycle starts all over again!

Posted by: mbn

Was reading this thread since early september - I went ahead and bought an 8125 back then to get used to WM in preparation for my 8525 (coming from a Treo 650). Now I'm glad I got the 8125 (using my wifes 50% FAN discount) when I did- I feel for you guys that are not yet using a WM5 device. Although I want the 8525 bad, I'd rather ALL, well, maybe most of the bugs be worked out before it drops because I recently had to hard reset my 8125 due to a bad Goodlink install and it was a royal pain in the a** tweaking it over again. It's no fun customizing these suckers over and over and over.

Just remember that an extra week or two of testing another ROM could be the difference between endless time on hold with data support...

Posted by: Prometheus2k2

HOLY CR*P THIS THREAD IS 90 PAGES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

One Love,
Prom

Posted by: Tastypeppers

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prometheus2k2

HOLY CR*P THIS THREAD IS 90 PAGES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

One Love,
Prom

That's why we need the Search Police -- to chase poor new HoFo-ers into the 90-page swamp, never to be seen again. Otherwise any sane person would give up and ask a question.

Posted by: gravejoker

Quote:

Originally Posted by SrchingForSignl

This is probably a post for another thread, but I feel so loved here that I just want to ask you guys.

I'm currently a Verizon customer. My wife is a Cingular customer and has her own account. My mother has Cingular but I get her bill since I set up her account (I know, I'm a model son.)

My plan was to slam my Verizon number over to Cingular and get a brand new account. I really feel I am a new customer. THEN I'd add my mom and wife onto my account as part of a family plan.

Will that work? Will they balk when they see that I'm already getting a Cingular bill at my address? Will my pleas that I've never made a Cingular call in my life fall on deaf ears?

See what the 8525 is doing to us???

Payback time now for all those hilarious posts .. I wouldnt do this for anyone else ..

- I was able to get two different accounts/lines at the same addr with same SSN... I dont think they really care ..

- I was also able to combine those lines later into a family plan, without losing a single rollover min from both those lines ...

- Now the 2 yr contract is per line in the family plan .. and each line becomes eligible for upgrade independently .. the way you are going .. you will be eligible for a total of 3 upgrades .. obviously at some point of time in the future ..

Hope this answers what you are trying to figure out .. otherwise pm me.. and we can talk some more ..

Posted by: skidpalace

Quote:

Originally Posted by SrchingForSignl

And... where could we find you on Sunday, if, say, we just wanted to look at your new phone???

You can bet your a$$ that I will be posting to this forum from the club seats at Gillette Stadium if I have a new 8525 in my hand. Although it will be at EDGE speeds from Foxborough

Posted by: gravejoker

Quote:

Originally Posted by skidpalace

You can bet your a$$ that I will be posting to this forum from the club seats at Gillette Stadium if I have a new 8525 in my hand. Although it will be at EDGE speeds from Foxborough

you, sir, might be the lucky one to put us out of our misery ... please keep us posted ..

Posted by: mentalcase

Im going to be working tomorrow so i will try and find the skinny on the 8525. Everything is pointing to a release date that is close. Its on our pricing sheets, Rebates, and there a training course. Keep in mind guys the new blackberry 8100 was originally supposed to come out for Cingular on october 15th and it was just pushed back. Just to clarify pricing 599 is full retail. If you sign up for a 2yr then the price is 449.99. The 50 dollar mail in rebate then applies if you take the data plan and have a voice plan of 39.99 or higher (family plans apply also). Im waiting for this one, too. Im definately hoping push to talk is enabled from the get go.

Posted by: maevro

Quote:

Originally Posted by mbn

I feel for you guys that are not yet using a WM5 device. Although I want the 8525 bad, I'd rather ALL, well, maybe most of the bugs be worked out before it drops because I recently had to hard reset my 8125 due to a bad Goodlink install and it was a royal pain in the a** tweaking it over again. It's no fun customizing these suckers over and over and over.

Just remember that an extra week or two of testing another ROM could be the difference between endless time on hold with data support...

Yeah, I thought that too, but then I got my e62 and I could care less about WM5.

Posted by: ManOfGod

Quote:

Originally Posted by maevro

Yeah, I thought that too, bu