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Posted by: gravejoker

Quote:

Originally Posted by charlie8525

Well I ordered my Orange M3100 over the weekend and it should be here on Wednesday. Same form factor as the 8525 but HAS the front camera. I got it brand new for a hell of a price $575 US. I talked to the guy and he has more so if anybody else can't wait let me know and I'll give you thes scoop.

Isn't the Orange M3100 sim locked? How are you going to use it in the US?

Posted by: RF9

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Originally Posted by gravejoker

AWESOME man!! This is lovely!! absolutely great !! breathtaking .. Gotta check it out once I have my phone ..

Did you do anything special or it worked out of the box?

You were responding to my WebVPN success right?
No, I did nothing special. Just out of the box. Just aimed Pocket IE to the webvpn login page.
Now we have a Juniper Networks WebVPN server (I'm not sure if other products use a "webvpn" name."
I tell you, sometime's I'm just SHOCKED when things actually work.

Posted by: gravejoker

Quote:

Originally Posted by RF9

Yes I was .. thanks for trying it out ... me too ...

Posted by: Daniel Y

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Originally Posted by RF9

Hows the phone quality? I've read that the 8125 is not such a great cell phone. Is that true? If true, then I'm waiting for the 8525.

Posted by: skidpalace

Well, I'm back to add another release date candidate.
FWIW, I just finished up a consultation with a new client who happens to be a high level marketing exec at Cingular. I wish I could tell you his exact position, but that would be extremely uncool.
Anyway, he sits down and the first thing I notice is that he has two unreleased phones on his hip. He has the LG CU400 and the Crackberry "Pearl" 8100.
They are both sweet little phones, but topics for other threads.
I asked him what the deal was on the 8525, and he said without hesitation "end of this month". I mentioned that my freind (his boss) told me just a few days ago Late Nov/early Dec, and he says "Well, maybe early November".

So I ask, what is the delay about, and he says, "What delay? We're right on schedule".
I almost wonder if he's giving me the "official line", but my friend his boss gave me the real deal.
I'm still sayin November at the earliest.
The bottom line is that he said there will be a "bunch" of new handsets out very soon.

Posted by: gravejoker

Quote:

Originally Posted by skidpalace

Well, I'm back to add another release date candidate.
FWIW, I just finished up a consultation with a new client who happens to be a high level marketing exec at Cingular. I wish I could tell you his exact position, but that would be extremely uncool.
Anyway, he sits down and the first thing I notice is that he has two unreleased phones on his hip. He has the LG CU400 and the Crackberry "Pearl" 8100.
They are both sweet little phones, but topics for other threads.
I asked him what the deal was on the 8525, and he said without hesitation "end of this month". I mentioned that my freind (his boss) told me just a few days ago Late Nov/early Dec, and he says "Well, maybe early November".

Man!! You got contacts in such high places ..

Posted by: Sleuth255

@RF9:

Get yourself a copy of smartskey for your 8125. It's over on xda-developers in the Wizard forum. Smartskey gives you windows and close/ok keys by mapping these functions to press-and-hold on the softkeys. You can also use it in conjunction with another nice little app called OmapClock to overclock your device to 240MHZ. This provides a dramatic speedup w/o sacrificing any additional battery life. Voila! Your chief detractions will be rectified. Smartskey is must-have software for the 8125 IMO.

Posted by: SrchingForSignl

Quote:

Originally Posted by skidpalace

So I ask, what is the delay about, and he says, "What delay? We're right on schedule".
I almost wonder if he's giving me the "official line", but my friend his boss gave me the real deal.

In fairness, Cingular has never committed to a release date, let alone even officially acknowledged the EXISTENCE of the phone.

WE are the salivators, the shorters of keyboards, the pants-stretchers, the tapping-impatients, the piners and the no-lifers. The "delay" exists only in our dark, twisted, space-time continuum. Can anybody else hear the howling, or is it just me?

Posted by: skidpalace

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Originally Posted by gravejoker

Man!! You got contacts in such high places ..

Yeah, it's nice. I just hope that they don't read hofo. I don't want to put them in a bind, and jeopardize my supply of free phones/devices.

Posted by: KlamshellKing

If this phone is released this month I think I will end up getting it. It will last me the longest... My 30 day return policy will end on like November 1st i think. Does anyone know if its from the original purchase or from the second purchase with the return policy?

SO my point of this... is i this phone going to be released this month????????????

Posted by: gravejoker

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Originally Posted by SrchingForSignl

Damn man!! How can you come up with stuff like this?

Posted by: URPREY

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Originally Posted by charlie8525

I really like the 3100. It's the same as the 8525 but with the front camera. Can you share some more information on how you got the phone? There are already unlocking services out there so that shouldn't be a problem.

Posted by: mark8525

SPV M3100 unlock here: http://www.imei-check.co.uk/m3100unlock.php . . Let me know how it works ? I would be interested in getting one myself. I like the design better than the TyTN and you can always put the latest HTC ROM on it once it is unlocked.

Posted by: smokeyb111

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Originally Posted by SrchingForSignl

Wow.....the FUNNY part, is that he's right. lol

Posted by: RF9

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sleuth255

@RF9:

Get yourself a copy of smartskey for your 8125. It's over on xda-developers in the Wizard forum. Smartskey gives you windows and close/ok keys by mapping these functions to press-and-hold on the softkeys. You can also use it in conjunction with another nice little app called OmapClock to overclock your device to 240MHZ. This provides a dramatic speedup w/o sacrificing any additional battery life. Voila! Your chief detractions will be rectified. Smartskey is must-have software for the 8125 IMO.

LOL. Everyone tells me that. Thanks for the tip!

I did get smartskey once I finally found out where to download it. Odd, the post on that thread says .53 is the latest but .52 is what's for download. For some reason Smartskey doesn't re-map my buttons. I can't figure it out. It re-maps the slider for the page scroll, so I know it's working, and I'm using the default ini file which is configured right. It's odd.
The instructions say "Tap and hold". So maybe I'm doing it wrong? What does "tap and hold" mean? Does it mean tap-release-Press/hold. Or does it just mean press/hold?
In any case, you don't really need smartskey for the buttons. I just remapped them in start>settings>Buttons.
I mapped button 4 for to <ok/close> and hold-4 for <start>. I like it this way it works well. Besides I like my right button for the comm manager.
I also mapped my camera key to <rotate scree>. I don't need a dedicated camera key, and this re-map is really handy for slingbox and even web browsing (so i don't have to open the keyboard.)

Smartskey is supposed to close all applications for you, but I must be retarted bucause I have no clue how to activate this function.
It does keep OmapClock running, which I'm using (launching manually.)

But that asside, I'm looking forward to the start and ok/close buttons being at the BOTTOM of the device where I can use them with my thumb. The way it is now, on the side, it's a bit of a reach in between using the D-Pad.
Also the scroll wheel on the TyTn will take care of what smartskey does to remap the volume slider.

Posted by: danbuhler

Quote:

Originally Posted by charlie8525

Wow. I'm not a Cingular customer so that looks like a pretty good deal. Any idea how the warranty would work on the Orange M3100?

Posted by: RF9

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Originally Posted by skidpalace

You should have said:
YOU: "What's the delay?"
HIM: "What delay? We're right on schedule"
YOU: "What delay? The rebate form which expires in mid Oct. has the 8525 on it. That tells me end of the month is behind schedule."

Posted by: RF9

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Originally Posted by Daniel Y

Hows the phone quality? I've read that the 8125 is not such a great cell phone. Is that true? If true, then I'm waiting for the 8525.

Phone quality as in sound, volume, RF? As a phone it's a WM PDA, so phone-usage could be better. That's where Palm went the extra mile and is trying to make the Treo 750 better for phone usage with their customizations. I admit, the 750 is temping for that alone.
But as far as sound quality and earpiece volume, it's great so far. It's way louder than my Treo 650 (volume sucks) and it sounds good to me.
I think the RF on the GSM is a bit weak. I'm coming from the Treo 650 which had excellent RF, so I notice the dip in RF quality.
I hope the RF is better in the 8525. Otherwise I have no complaints about the phone. Not enough to worry about at least.

Posted by: ManOfGod

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Originally Posted by gravejoker

Damn man!! How can you come up with stuff like this?

He probably reads a lot of C.S. Lewis.

Posted by: amheck

8125 refurb is down to $140 on my premiere site, from $185 last week. Maybe they are trying to move stock in anticipation for a new model soon!

Posted by: tremcotexas

I pulled this off Xda developer site with someone claiming that HTC just covered up the video call camera on the 8525...

8525 Camera

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The 8525 has the front camera covered up by the faceplate -- the camera itself is still there, just hidden. They also disable it in their ROM...

(At least that's the case when it comes to the 8525 I saw last week -- we stuck a pocketknife blade under the adhesive metallic faceplate and peeled it up a little)

So.. you're not gaining any extra space under there for a GPS receiver.

Posted by: charlie8525

Quote:

Originally Posted by gravejoker

Isn't the Orange M3100 sim locked? How are you going to use it in the US?

Over at xda-developers they are working on a free crack but in the mean time i will be paying about 30 bucks to get it unlocked. I will try locally first at this place that unlocks phones and if they cant do It i will go to:
http://www.imei-check.co.uk/m3100unlock.php

Posted by: charlie8525

Quote:

Originally Posted by URPREY

I found this guy online that sells them in the UK. I told him that there are probably tons of guys on here that would want one. I should have mine on Wednesday and if all is well I will see about getting between 10-20 of them shipped here to San Diego and then if anybody wants them it will be easier to ship in the states.

Posted by: charlie8525

Quote:

Originally Posted by danbuhler

Wow. I'm not a Cingular customer so that looks like a pretty good deal. Any idea how the warranty would work on the Orange M3100?

From what I have heard Orange is pretty good about taking care of warranty claims....hopefully I won't have to find out

Posted by: maevro

Quote:

Originally Posted by tremcotexas

The 8525 has the front camera covered up by the faceplate -- the camera itself is still there, just hidden. They also disable it in their ROM...

(At least that's the case when it comes to the 8525 I saw last week -- we stuck a pocketknife blade under the adhesive metallic faceplate and peeled it up a little)

Wow, thats pretty nuts. Good find!

Anyway, I have heard so many different release dates from people I know and people in stores it is crazy. As much as I would want the 8525 after having the 8125 for so long, I will not miss the huge phone in my pocket.

Posted by: danbuhler

Quote:

Originally Posted by charlie8525

From what I have heard Orange is pretty good about taking care of warranty claims....hopefully I won't have to find out

I just can't see it being easy to submit a claim overseas! Esp if you don't have an account with Orange!

Posted by: smokeyb111

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Originally Posted by tremcotexas

GET OUT! lol
If this is the case.....and I'm trying not to laugh here, but imagine taking your phone in for a ROM upgrade, they take your phone in the back reflash the ROM and change the faceplate! lol

Cingular is going to be a network of cellphone chop shops! lol

Posted by: ChicagoDrew

what is web VPN?

Posted by: RF9

Quote:

Originally Posted by tremcotexas

I pulled this off Xda developer site with someone claiming that HTC just covered up the video call camera on the 8525...

8525 Camera

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

The 8525 has the front camera covered up by the faceplate -- the camera itself is still there, just hidden. They also disable it in their ROM...

(At least that's the case when it comes to the 8525 I saw last week -- we stuck a pocketknife blade under the adhesive metallic faceplate and peeled it up a little)

So.. you're not gaining any extra space under there for a GPS receiver.

Could it be that just the test/evaluation units have the covered up camera and the production ones have it removed?
Not likely. I'm putting money on the fact that they just cover up the camera, LOL.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChicagoDrew

what is web VPN?

Do you know what VPN is? Normally it's a program you'd run on your computer and it creates and encrypted secure 'virtual private network' to another network (such as my company's network) behind a firewall. So your laptop OR PC that's "VPNed in" acts as if it's right there at work on the network.

So there's a client that runs on the PC. There's a server that you connect in to (through.)

WebVPN is just Juniper Network's version of VPN. What's so great about it is that you don't have to install intrusive software on you PC. You just hit a web site (the VPN server) and it runs a run-time activeX program on your PC for that session when you log in to the web site. That way you can VPN in from any PC from anywhere without installing software (even at a cyber Cafe, for example.)
It's super convenient for VPN users. Anyway, I was sure that there was no chance there would be a version of ths VPN client for WM5. But I guess they got that figured out with this.

There are two ways to log in.
1) you downloade and install an activex program. It's a real VPN client.
2) you log in in "Kiosk" mode which is this version that works with the PocketPC. It's not a real VPN session, it just allows VPN access to web pages through the VPN server.
You can do the kiosk mode from a WindowsXP machine, I just never tried it before I did on the 8125.

Posted by: Quatre

Quote:

Originally Posted by charlie8525

cam in front? its on back on tytn? and 8525 like it is on the apache (and wizard I think)

I was worried the 8525 would be ugly and square and not as nice as tytn the way 8125 was compared to qtek and imte kjam version but if pics show a tytn with cing branding then maybe they kept it same? or did descrip from person just say cing branded tytn making me think it was same but really is diff and person just forgot to say 8525?
I didn't follow link ealrier on thread because I'm on my htc apache and well just didn't feel like it.

I do have two upgrades to use but might have other phones to use those on (samsung i607 and razr maxx) so would be open to importing tytn but not for 700.

so what is diff in looks between orange m whaever ,tytn and 8525?

Posted by: Cansler

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SrchingForSignl: WE are the salivators, the shorters of keyboards, the pants-stretchers, the tapping-impatients, the piners and the no-lifers. The "delay" exists only in our dark, twisted, space-time continuum. Can anybody else hear the howling, or is it just me?

You must be a writer or something. Your every post has been riddled, nay, peppered with hijinks and hilarity! It's good stuff, really.

On to my post. My order for the refurbed 8125 got canceled twice as I stated earlier. So I had to call in. He would not offer me the refurbed unit. So I had to get the new one at a great price of $249. How do I go about getting the rebates?

Quote:

cam in front? its on back on tytn? and 8525 like it is on the apache (and wizard I think)

TyTN has 2 cams, 2MP on back for stills and video, and a smaller one on front (can't remember res) for things like video calling. The cam on the front was removed from 8525 version.

cansler

Posted by: aaronmarks

Quote:

Originally Posted by charlie8525

Can you list an email address of the guy we can email.

Posted by: gravejoker

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cansler

TyTN has 2 cams, 2MP on back for stills and video, and a smaller one on front (can't remember res) for things like video calling. The cam on the front was removed from 8525 version.

cansler

I wouldnt say removed .. not available yes .. most probably hidden as it's too costly to remove the cam .. but then nobody knows for sure ...

Ok guys .. today is the 11th ... not released yet ... still be few hrs left in the day..

Posted by: amheck

Unless my calendar is wrong, I'm pretty sure it's the 10th today

Posted by: Balthazar_B

Quote:

Originally Posted by amheck

Unless my calendar is wrong, I'm pretty sure it's the 10th today

GraveJoker is farther along on the space-time continuum...

Posted by: gravejoker

Quote:

Originally Posted by Balthazar_B

GraveJoker is farther along on the space-time continuum...

Opsssssssssssssss ... guess I was getting too excited and hopeful ...

Wish today was the whatever day when the phone was suppose come out

Posted by: smokeyb111

Quote:

Originally Posted by gravejoker

Wish today was the whatever day when the phone was suppose come out

Maybe it'll release on the 11th! lol

Posted by: Cansler

Quote:

Originally Posted by FungFlex

not to mention that all 12 of those feedbacks are from sellers, and the most expensive item was 1 cent and 5 cents to ship. Including a couple that are just fake ebay transactions. All feedbacks left within the past few days as well, so in other word you bid you might as well just throw that money out the window, so at least you wont be pissed when you dont get anything back.

Kyle

I am 99.99999999999999999999999999% certain this guy is a scammer. I saw one like that last week. the guy had about 10-12 feedback all on 1 cent items. the thing that got me was that all his feedback were purchases and only the last item was from this year, all the others were from '04. Desktop wallpapers and such were what he bought. So I watch the auction and email him (ask seller a question) and tell him to send me a pick of him holding one of the phones. I say, "You buy PC desktop wallpapers for 2 yeaars and suddenly you have all the latest phones for sell, tell me how! I don't even need to see your face, just your hand, the phone, and a piece of paper with today's date and this auction's item number and you got yourself a gauranteed sell."

needless to say, I did not get a response. The next day, I checked to see what the status was, and low and behold, all his auctions have been removed, and the seller is no longer a registered user. You make sure you tell that guy not to pay one red cent!

cansler

Posted by: brainiac978

Hey, do you think that when it finally drops that they will have enough phones for the demand?

Posted by: smokeyb111

Quote:

Originally Posted by brainiac978

Hey, do you think that when it finally drops that they will have enough phones for the demand?

As SrchngForSgnl Said earlier

Quote:

Originally Posted by SrchngForSgnl

WE are the salivators, the shorters of keyboards, the pants-stretchers, the tapping-impatients, the piners and the no-lifers. The "delay" exists only in our dark, twisted, space-time continuum. Can anybody else hear the howling, or is it just me?

On that note....I don't think we guys are going to put a major dent in their supplies. I do remember there was a phone I wanted once before that they ran short on (I think it's my 8125 I have now...could have been another phone I buy so damn many) But basically, even most business cronies who will use/want/need a phone like this, don't know it's about to release.
You have to remember that we LOOK for phones that are to be released. We want to know the components, who makes them, and every innard of the phone before anyone even takes a real picture of the thing. Out of the thousands of members on HoFo you gotta realize we're a small percentage of the entire membership will use/want/need this phone.

I think there'll be enough 8525 goodness to go around for us.

Posted by: brainiac978

Just daydreaming here, but I would love to be the person at Cingular that receives the shipment when finally arrives. Seeing all the 8525 boxes and stuff...

Posted by: Jakaroe808

Quote:

Originally Posted by smokeyb111

As SrchngForSgnl Said earlier

On that note....I don't think we guys are going to put a major dent in their supplies. I do remember there was a phone I wanted once before that they ran short on (I think it's my 8125 I have now...could have been another phone I buy so damn many) But basically, even most business cronies who will use/want/need a phone like this, don't know it's about to release.
You have to remember that we LOOK for phones that are to be released. We want to know the components, who makes them, and every innard of the phone before anyone even takes a real picture of the thing. Out of the thousands of members on HoFo you gotta realize we're a small percentage of the entire membership will use/want/need this phone.

I think there'll be enough 8525 goodness to go around for us.

This is true.. I will have the 8525 when it is released but I already have my eye on the HTC Herald for God's sake.. What is wrong with me?

Posted by: robothero

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cansler

I am 99.99999999999999999999999999% certain this guy is a scammer.

I am 100% certain he is a scammer. There were a bunch of auctions put up in the same style this past weekend. I put in a lowball bid just for kicks, and found that the scam is pretty much two fold - one of the bidders is a scammer that is there just to jack up the price on you, and the seller himself is a scammer.

A few hours later I got an email from ebay saying the auction was removed and the user suspended, and not to pay for anything I had won (if I had won, which I did not).

Always, always check their history of a seller before you buy something from them.

Posted by: jjgainer

I would love more info on how to get one of those M3100's. I actually like the design of those the best of all the TYTN variants. Please let me know how I can get more information from you!

Posted by: jjgainer

Quote:

Originally Posted by charlie8525

Please send me more info on that! I would love to get a M3100 for < $600. You can e-mail me at jjgainer at yahoo dot com.

Posted by: Cansler

Quote:

Originally Posted by robothero

I am 100% certain he is a scammer...

A few hours later I got an email from ebay saying the auction was removed and the user suspended, and not to pay for anything I had won (if I had won, which I did not).

Yeah I got that email too, and all I did was email the guy. I never even bid.

cansler

Posted by: charlie8525

Quote:

Originally Posted by jjgainer

Please send me more info on that! I would love to get a M3100 for < $600. You can e-mail me at jjgainer at yahoo dot com.

I should have the phone by tomorrow. I want to make sure that everything is ok with it before i start recommending this guy. I want to be 100% sure i am not sending you guys to a scammer.

I'll post my findings and images tomorrow when I get the phone.

Posted by: berdinkerdickle

Which one of these Tytn variations (8525/tytn/M3100/imate) could we expect the best Provider Support? (fw/sw Updates)

Posted by: gravejoker

I would guess ..

1. 8525
2. TyTN
3. iMate
4. M3100 ..

Posted by: berdinkerdickle

Yea, I would feel safer with my local Cing Store anyway.

Posted by: CES1951

Quote:

Originally Posted by FungFlex

Quote:

Originally Posted by CES1951

Someone in the US just got it for $190.70. I wrote to him to ask how it goes from here on. I'll post if I get a reply.

I got a response back from the successful bidder:

"Yes I think its a scam. THe seller is asking for a Wire Transfer which is not allowed on eBay. SO I reported him to eBay and Will not pay unless it's paypal. To good to be try I will just wait for the 8525. I'm sure he will be suspended by tonight or Tuesday."

Posted by: Naveen

Quote:

Originally Posted by berdinkerdickle

Yea, I would feel safer with my local Cing Store anyway.

i think many, including myself, are waiting for cingular to release to we have that safety in the back of ur minds that if we have a defective unit we can always go and talk to someone about it. many probably do buy unbranded and unlocked devices, but to have a $750 defective paperweight would be heatache for many.

Posted by: charlie8525

Here comes my phone:
LOUISVILLE,
KY, US 10/10/2006 4:11 P.M. DEPARTURE SCAN
10/10/2006 2:02 P.M. IMPORT SCAN
10/10/2006 5:01 A.M. REGISTERED WITH CLEARING AGENCY;SHIPMENT SUBMITTED TO CLEARING AGENCY
10/10/2006 5:01 A.M. REGISTERED WITH CLEARING AGENCY;RELEASED BY CLR AGENCY. NOW IN-TRANSIT
EAST MIDLANDS AIRPOR,
GB 10/09/2006 8:13 P.M. EXPORT SCAN
DEWSBURY,
GB 10/09/2006 5:34 P.M. THE PACKAGE WAS SUBJECT TO AN X-RAY INSPECTION PRIOR TO DELIVERY; A DELAY MAY RESULT;DELIVERY RESCHEDULED
10/09/2006 5:24 P.M. ORIGIN SCAN
10/09/2006 12:24 P.M. PICKUP SCAN
GB 10/09/2006 12:48 P.M. BILLING INFORMATION RECEIVED

Sorry couldn't help it

I've been tracking it all day

Posted by: berdinkerdickle

Quote:

Originally Posted by charlie8525

Here comes my phone:
LOUISVILLE,
KY, US 10/10/2006 4:11 P.M. DEPARTURE SCAN
10/10/2006 2:02 P.M. IMPORT SCAN
10/10/2006 5:01 A.M. REGISTERED WITH CLEARING AGENCY;SHIPMENT SUBMITTED TO CLEARING AGENCY
10/10/2006 5:01 A.M. REGISTERED WITH CLEARING AGENCY;RELEASED BY CLR AGENCY. NOW IN-TRANSIT
EAST MIDLANDS AIRPOR,
GB 10/09/2006 8:13 P.M. EXPORT SCAN
DEWSBURY,
GB 10/09/2006 5:34 P.M. THE PACKAGE WAS SUBJECT TO AN X-RAY INSPECTION PRIOR TO DELIVERY; A DELAY MAY RESULT;DELIVERY RESCHEDULED
10/09/2006 5:24 P.M. ORIGIN SCAN
10/09/2006 12:24 P.M. PICKUP SCAN
GB 10/09/2006 12:48 P.M. BILLING INFORMATION RECEIVED

Sorry couldn't help it

I've been tracking it all day

CONTENTS: 1 PAPERCLIP

Posted by: gravejoker

Quote:

Originally Posted by berdinkerdickle

CONTENTS: 1 PAPERCLIP

PRICELESS!!!

Posted by: cingular#1

end of november launch

Posted by: gravejoker

Quote:

Originally Posted by cingular#1

end of november launch

can you pls post more details???

Posted by: charlie8525

Quote:

Originally Posted by berdinkerdickle

CONTENTS: 1 PAPERCLIP

I hope not...I have been waiting too long for this phone. But if it is then I'm glad I used my AMEX so I can dispute it....UPS says the box weighs 2 Kgs so it is either a really big paperclip or a rock

Posted by: bobbypilsner

More fodder from Gizmodo:

The upcoming Cingular 8525, a phone you may know better from by its maiden name, the HTC TyTN, is supposedly being released some time in the next 30 days.

Cody writes:

I dropped by a Cingular store this evening and inquired about when the Cingular 8525 was going to be released. They smiled and said they didn't know but pointed to an empty display and told me they already had an area set aside for it. He said he expected it to come out within the next 30 days.

When I asked if he knew more or less how much it will cost, he went to his computer and pulled up the official price list. It listed it as $474.95 with a two year contract or $424.95 if you factor in the $50 mail-in rebate.

Well there you have it. Kinda pricey compared to the Cingular 8125 (HTC Wizard), but being on the bleeding edge costs ya. – Jason Chen

Posted by: mark8525

Quote:

Originally Posted by charlie8525

Or a tasty Orange

Let us know as soon as you get it man . . . I'm in . .

Posted by: cingular#1

Quote:

Originally Posted by gravejoker

can you pls post more details???

i don't have any

all i know is that the palm 750 and the htc 8525 will launch around the end of november if everything goes the way it should

Posted by: gravejoker

Quote:

Originally Posted by cingular#1

i don't have any

all i know is that the palm 750 and the htc 8525 will launch around the end of november if everything goes the way it should

Interesting ... very interesting ..

Posted by: KlamshellKing

Quote:

Originally Posted by gravejoker

Interesting ... very interesting ..

it is indeed

Posted by: FungFlex

I think as far as every source I talked too, with the exception of Cingular Premier (who said the 8125 released awhile ago in a snooty tone.) thinks this device should greenlight on October 29th.

Question for those premier if I were to upgrade to the 8525, how long do I have to wait before cingular premier web ordering will allow me to process another cell phone upgrade, (ala i607)

Posted by: brainiac978

Damn I was hoping tomorrow would be the day...

Posted by: jetfxr

This thing is turning into the V3i. By the time it makes it. Who's gonna care.

Posted by: gravejoker

Quote:

Originally Posted by jetfxr

This thing is turning into the V3i. By the time it makes it. Who's gonna care.

NOBODYYyyyyyyyyy...

Posted by: TiLoBrown

Ok, I know I'm new and this is my first post, but eh. Anyway, Everyday for almost 3 weeks I've went in to work (Best Buy) to see if any new phones have entered our system. Today, finally the 8525 showed up

. So maybe we are getting closer.

Oh yea, the release date said 11-05, but we aren't the best when it comes to release dates.

Posted by: KlamshellKing

the price is supposed to be 475.99 with a two year contract according to good ol gizmodo... little too steep for 3g IMO. Im all over this e62, and ill like the i607 alot too... so no mo ppc fo me

Posted by: maevro

Quote:

Originally Posted by KlamshellKing

the price is supposed to be 475.99 with a two year contract according to good ol gizmodo... little too steep for 3g IMO. Im all over this e62, and ill like the i607 alot too... so no mo ppc fo me

As much as I would love to get the 8525, I am so happy with my e62. Just the fact that it is so slim makes me never want to go back to a phone that thick again. I am very happy with the Symbian OS and thats why I am staying away from the Samsung, plus it looks very long.

I have gone into plenty of Cingular stores and they have said so many different dates that I will believe it when I see it. Lets just hope 30 days doesnt turn into months.

$425 after a rebate is not bad since I paid more for my 8125 when it 1st came out. They had better worked out the major kinks in this release.

Posted by: RF9

OK folks following this thread. What are you?
Here are the highlights, you people MUST read this:
• 90% of users are lurkers (i.e., read or observe, but don't contribute).
• 9% of users contribute from time to time, but other priorities dominate their time.
• 1% of users participate a lot and account for most contributions: it can seem as if they don't have lives because they often post just minutes after whatever event they're commenting on occurs.
http://www.useit.com/alertbox/parti...inequality.html
I think I can officially call myself a 1%er on here.

Posted by: ChrisMc73

So if I'm trying to decide between say 3 phones, what helps me make my decision?

1. 3125
2. 8525
3. Palm Treo 750

Posted by: maevro

Quote:

Originally Posted by RF9

OK folks following this thread. What are you?
Here are the highlights, you people MUST read this:
• 90% of users are lurkers (i.e., read or observe, but don't contribute).
• 9% of users contribute from time to time, but other priorities dominate their time.
• 1% of users participate a lot and account for most contributions: it can seem as if they don't have lives because they often post just minutes after whatever event they're commenting on occurs.
http://www.useit.com/alertbox/parti...inequality.html
I think I can officially call myself a 1%er on here.

Well, I post a lot and thats all ill say

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisMc73

So if I'm trying to decide between say 3 phones, what helps me make my decision?

1. 3125
2. 8525
3. Palm Treo 750

What are you looking for in a phone? Anything is a step up from your RAZR, but there is a huge difference between the 3125 and the other two. I take it you want a WM5 phone, because you did not mention a Nokia e62.

Posted by: pcmike

The local Cingular store here said Nov. 1st.. so to hear the end of Nov is very disappointing. I'm getting to the point where I'm about to just say F-it and wait for something better to come along....

Posted by: DemonPPC

Quote:

Originally Posted by RF9

I'm a reformed 90%er!

Posted by: smokeyb111

Quote:

Originally Posted by RF9

I don't get it.............

Posted by: smokeyb111

Quote:

Originally Posted by pcmike

The local Cingular store here said Nov. 1st.. so to hear the end of Nov is very disappointing. I'm getting to the point where I'm about to just say F-it and wait for something better to come along....

This reminds me of the months, weeks, days before the release of the 8125.

Posted by: aadadams

Although I am a little late posting in this thread I consider myself a 1%er. My TyTN battery died as I tried to reply while walking through Wal-Mart picking up a few knick-knacks.

Posted by: RF9

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisMc73

So if I'm trying to decide between say 3 phones, what helps me make my decision?

1. 3125
2. 8525
3. Palm Treo 750

Allow me to give you some guidance.
History: I'm coming from 3 years of Treo 600 and Treo 650. I'm a huge fan of the form factor....I mean the front facing keyboard when I say that.
I got an 8125 to hold me over while I wait for the 8525, I just couldn't deal one more day with PalmOS.
I've been agonizing over the Treo750 vs. the 8525. Here's what it comes down to:

The 750 is superior in design for use as a Phone+PDA. Even the size and shape is small enough to call a phone. Palm even did some customization to the software to make it better for phone use. I would strongly recommend it
Unless.......
1) You're heavy in to... Web browsing, TV watching, Movie watching, or Excel/Word document editing.
Why? The screen size. The 320x240 screen makes a big difference, particularly for looking at web pages.
2) You want Wifi. Don't care, get the Treo. I found I really like WiFi.
3) Processor is slower on the Treo. But I hear it's not an issue. The 8525 will be a little faster rendering web pages..etc. But this all goes back to how much of a power user are you. Don't think the Treo 750 is slow, it's not.

I let my Wife try out the 8125. Her reaction was that she'd rather have the 750 because it's more like a phone in shape/size, and likes the front keyboard for one handed texting. And I agree. She also tried the 8125 and she can't get her fingers on the top row of keys because she has long finger nails (the body of the device is in the way.)
Also, she web browses rarely, and only when she has to "look something up" when out and about. Not like me. I'll be surfing this forum while waiting for her to try on dresses in a mall for example (ok bad example, but I do things like this.) But you can deal with the inconvenience of the 240x240 pixel display if you do things like this on occasion. But if you do it a lot, you'll prefer the 320x240 display.

So 8525 for: The power user. Primarily for the screen size.
750 for: No fuss great phone/PDA. You do a lot of text messaging.

Now for the 3125.
Same software (smartphone version of Win Mobile 5).
You have a 320x240 screen...so you have the pixel real-estate of the 8525. Screen resolution is a non-issue here.
The main thing to consider with the 3125:
*No touch screen. Not a big deal in my opinion, you can do everything without a touch screen. Some apps, however, it's conveient to just tap the screen. Cut and paste is the one function I haven't figured out on the smartphones without touchscreen.
*No querty keyboard. That's up to you, some people prefer T-9 typing and a keypad.
*Slower processor (eg: web page rendering will be slower than Treo and 8525)
*Thin, flip phone. This is the strongest reason. I think about getting a 3125 to supplement 8525 because it's a great looking thin phone. It's a little large for flip phone (size of the RAZR when closed, but longer when open because RAZR has a shorter lid) Also a bit heavy. But I wouldn't replace the 8125 or 8525 with the 3125 outright.

It's a matter of how you'll use it. I admit it took some getting used to the slider keyboard. And I still prefer the Treo keyboard. But I don't want to give up the screen, processor, and wifi. So it's 8525 for me.

On the Troe 750 forum, someone just posted a link to a guy that reviewed it and says it has horrible reception. Keep an eye on this. I can't believe it's really as bad as he said it was. Maybe it's a defective phone. Just keep an eye on that issue. I hope it's not true as I still plan to get one for my wife.

Posted by: RF9

Quote:

Originally Posted by smokeyb111

I don't get it.............

Did you read the article? (link) It about participation with online communities.

Posted by: ca_newf

Quote:

Originally Posted by RF9

• 90% of users are lurkers (i.e., read or observe, but don't contribute).

The reason why I'ma 90%er is I'd rather post useful info than ramble on and get a post count up. I enjoy reading what "plugged in" folks have to say...thus the lurker. I'm fine with that.

When I do have something useful to post, I'll be sure to post it though.

Even still...I sooooo cannot wait for this phone to release. I have a LG CU500 that my fiancee loves. I used my upgrade to get the LG due to other phone issues. Since she loves this phone and is due for an upgrade, I'll use her upgrade for the 8525 and then we'll switch. Unless it's cheaper thru the Corp Sponsorship...then I'll simply get it thru there.

OK...enough rambling. Release this damn phone Cingular!

Posted by: Naveen

Quote:

Originally Posted by jetfxr

This thing is turning into the V3i. By the time it makes it. Who's gonna care.

i kind of disagree with you, but i know where you are coming from. the v3i was delayed beyond belief. if the 8525 is delayed it is because there are so many things going on with the 8525 that cingular has to make sure come out near perfect for the end users. is cingular takin a long time, hell yes. will it be outdated, i doubt it, just look at the specs of the 750, and rethink that thought

Posted by: ChrisMc73

Thanks for all the information on my 3 phones I'm trying to decide between.
It would seem that for what I like in phones, the 3125 is the only option, because of what features I look for in a phone:

1. Slim, trim, can fit in my pocket and not even hardly notice it.
2. WM5 so I can store some files, wmas, pics, etc...

But...I'm also a bleeding edge techy fan, so I love the idea of all the stuff the others have as well, so I'm considering giving up the slim/trim stuff for a bit more bulk with more power. I guess I just need to sit down and see what is really important to me or not.

WiFi explain how it works, just in hot spots? I guess I can connect to my wireless home network? I seem to be fine with browsing the web via my PCs at work and home, not sure I need it in my cell phone, but the option sounds fab!

My work email is not Exchange server, so really a SmartPhone such as the 3125 seems to have enough of the WM5 features I need...email, light browsing, etc...but all the options of the other two sound and might be great, but maybe overkill...I just don't know.

Its another $50 each month for the unlimited data...as well right? Where with a smartphone its only $20 for unlimited...that is really only $10 more for me as I have a $10 text plan now, so that would go away and combine to the data plan.

Maybe I just need to play with each one and see for myself.

Does anyone know when the 8525 or 750 will be at Cingular? Are these 3G phones? (another reason I'd take these over 3125)

The phone I really want is not available here in Oklahoma City, the Motorola Q, has all I want/need in a phone, but we don't have Verizon here.

Posted by: RF9

Sounds like the 3125 is perfect for you, Treo 750 if you want 3G. If you can deal with the size of the Treo it's nice if you like a keyboard and touch screen. But the treo is going to cost more. Also the 3125 is well designed for playing music (external play controls) so it makes a better MP3 player replacement.

3G is very nice. EDGE is adequate for most email web stuff though.
You can get your PDA on the $20 plan too, they all work the same. You just have to call and ask for the plan as if you don't have a PDA. Switch to the MediaMax200 plan after you get your rebate, it's the best value. The data is identical to the $20 smartphone plan + you get more messaging. And most people don't need the extra data access point that the $40 PDA plan comes with.

Wifi, yeah just to use with your wifi access points at home or at work, or wherever there's a free wifi spot. It's just faster than using the EDGE or 3G data over the phone. It's not, and I repeat, NOT NECESSARY. I just like it for the convenience when at home or work.
Here's a random example. I was at a hockey game. I was able to attach to an open wifi access point in the arena SSID:"Guest". I was able to watch replays on my 8125 during time outs and period breaks on SLingbox mobile (playing off my TiVo at home.)
The Wifi was better for the TV than EDGE data. I can't imagine most people do this though.

Posted by: MrTrunks

Quote:

Originally Posted by RF9

Yes, I am one of the lurkers since page 1! I have just been too lazy to register until you RF9 made me feel like a pos... Thanks.

Posted by: jimalaiyah

First-time poster...

as far as the breakdown of who's posting and who's lurking... do you really want everyone's experiences? Redundancy? I've been lurking for a while now... (great work everyone, btw) and when it's question/statement time... we'll come out...
Couple Questions:
1) There was some discussion about Cingy's data plans... Smartphone vs. PDA...
Aside from price, what are the differences? Someone mentioned an extra access point. Please elaborate.

2) Those Tytn/M3100/etc. users out there... How's the battery doing? What have your experiences shown? Can it last a day or more of constant power use?

3) I was an HP hw6925 groupie for a long time. Any experiences out there with Bluetooth GPS devices that I could hook up to my 8525 (for which I will wait until MPX220 (piece o' poop) dies)? Can I use the Bluetooth GPS receiver with multiple devices?

Keep up the good work!

Posted by: gravejoker

Quote:

Originally Posted by RF9

Nice stats .. I think I belong to remaining %age of users

.. tho seriously .. I dont know belonging to the 1% age group is a good thing or bad ..

Quote:

Originally Posted by RF9

Sounds like the 3125 is perfect for you, Treo 750 if you want 3G. If you can deal with the size of the Treo it's nice if you like a keyboard and touch screen. But the treo is going to cost more. Also the 3125 is well designed for playing music (external play controls) so it makes a better MP3 player replacement.

Just remember that nobody knows for sure if 750 will have HSDPA and doesnt have wifi ..

Posted by: gravejoker

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimalaiyah

Re-posting from my other post ..

a. PDAConnect - Costs you 40$, no SMS messages included. You get a static IP address (no DHCP crap).Goes through ISP.CINGULAR .. Some people have found this to work better. Some apps require static IP.

b. MediaNet/SmartPhoneConnect - Costs 20$ (200 messages for MediaNet 200, donno about SmartPhoneConnect). Dynamic IP address. Goes through WAP.CINGULAR ... performance gets impacted if you have high load on the network ..

People use both but technically you are suppose to use PDAConnect with the TyTN ...

Posted by: ManOfGod

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrTrunks

Yes, I am one of the lurkers since page 1! I have just been too lazy to register until you RF9 made me feel like a pos... Thanks.

Good job, RF9, for getting all the lurkers to come out of the alleyways. I too was a long time lurker until SrchingForSignl's beguiling poem ensnared me.

MrTrunks, welcome to the club.

Naveen, love your current phone.

Posted by: robothero

smoke signal machine is cutting edge.

on the topic of MediaNet vs PDAConnect... I'm hoping to be able to use my TyTN as a HSDPA modem for my laptop soon for while I'm at work (our network is SLOW and blocks all personal email etc.)... just waiting for a good expresscard to come out... I'm going to go ahead and assume that when I get this, I should switch over to PDAConnect?

Posted by: skidpalace

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimalaiyah

First-time poster...

as far as the breakdown of who's posting and who's lurking... do you really want everyone's experiences? Redundancy? I've been lurking for a while now... (great work everyone, btw) and when it's question/statement time... we'll come out...
Couple Questions:
1) There was some discussion about Cingy's data plans... Smartphone vs. PDA...
Aside from price, what are the differences? Someone mentioned an extra access point. Please elaborate.

2) Those Tytn/M3100/etc. users out there... How's the battery doing? What have your experiences shown? Can it last a day or more of constant power use?

3) I was an HP hw6925 groupie for a long time. Any experiences out there with Bluetooth GPS devices that I could hook up to my 8525 (for which I will wait until MPX220 (piece o' poop) dies)? Can I use the Bluetooth GPS receiver with multiple devices?

Keep up the good work!

I am very interested in the bluetooth GPS capabilities of the 8525 also. I am using my HP 6515 as my navigator and I will miss that feature for sure.
Anyone running a GPS unit with their TyTN variant?

Posted by: cshehan

To answer question 3:

I have a GlobalSat BT-338 bluetooth GPS receiver. I have used it with my old MPX220 (and yes it was a piece of poop), an HP IPAQ HX4705, and with my current phone a Cingular 8125. I rarely take any trip without it, and would highly recommend this receiver to anyone. Yes you can use a bluetooth GPS with as many different devices as you like, but only one device at a time.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimalaiyah

Posted by: aadadams

I use a GlobalSat BT-338 that I have used with iguidance v3 and TTN 6. iguidance is horrible on the TyTN as it is presently available. They are in the process of patching the software however so it may become a more viable option in the future. On the other hand TTN 6 is very nice and functions as intended on the TyTN.

Posted by: amheck

I use iG and a BT-338 on my Dell Axim and have been really happy with it, FWIW

Posted by: Naveen

Quote:

Originally Posted by ManOfGod

thats what i am stuck with until i get my 8525

Posted by: pgray007

Quote:

Originally Posted by skidpalace

I've used a Holux GPSlim 236 with TomTom on my 8125 for over a year, and it is quite good. The GPSlim uses the same charger as the 8125/TynTyn so you can bring one adapter, and it runs about 8-10 hours on a full charge. I bought mine from buygpsnow.com I think, they have nice "mix and match" packages where you can select the software and receiver you want, and they kick in a car mount all at a good price.

I use this setup a lot when travelling since it's compact and easy to move into a rental car. I got TomTom since it was a better deal when buying maps of the US and EU and I travel in both. TomTom is a little funky, but the software itself been 100% reliable and operates very quickly on the 8125 once it is started (takes about 20 seconds to startup). Google around to find software you like, but I'd highly recommend the GPSlim from holux. You can bring one charger for the car and keep both the PDA and GPS charged even on >10 hour trips (just swap the charger every couple of hours). TomTom and the 8125 also continue to work for phone calls, even with a BT headset. It's ultra-cool to see the little "Someone is calling" window pop up, take the call on the BT headset, and have TomTom automatically mute but otherwise keep the navigation going. I never knew BT could handle multiple devices until this happened.

I also have Garmin and Acura navigation systems, and each has its strengths and weaknesses. Do some research primarly on the software. Other than charging cables and size, the BT GPS receivers are all more or less the same and most use an SiRF chipset which is very good. The holux I have is almost comically small (a bit bigger than a book of matches) so these things rock if you travel a lot, or some people "hardwire" them into their cars and just take the PDA when they go.

Posted by: bobbypilsner

just to jibe with the OT vibe of GPS...

Most BT GPS receivers with the SirfIII chipset work quite well. There is a great site with tons of reviews and discussions about PDA GPS software:

www.gpspassion.com

Check the PDA software forum. You'll find that every mapping package has pluses and minuses. I have tried iGuidance, TomTom and OCN5. All do the job but all have quirks. I agree that TTN is the most polished package (albeit using Telenav maps). My experience is on a WM2003SE PPC.

Posted by: skidpalace

Looks like AT&T has been granted DOJ approval for the merger with BellSouth.
One more vote tomorrow by the FCC will seal the deal.
A new thread has been started HERE
The reason I am bringing this up again is the following hunch:
Could perhaps the reason all these phones are conveniently slipping into late October/November be due to a rebranding to at&t Wireless?

Posted by: ChrisMc73

Quote:

Originally Posted by skidpalace

Looks like AT&T has been granted DOJ approval for the merger with BellSouth.
One more vote tomorrow by the FCC will seal the deal.
A new thread has been started HERE
The reason I am bringing this up again is the following hunch:
Could perhaps the reason all these phones are conveniently slipping into late October/November be due to a rebranding to at&t Wireless?

Does this mean Cingular will no longer be Cingular? I'm confused, I used to be AT&T, then it got bought out, so I switched to what appeared to be the best in Oklahoma, Cingular, and I've had it a while, so now does this mean Cinuglar will be AT&T? Taking me back to AT&T? Or am I just a conused idiot?

Don't answer that!

Posted by: ManOfGod

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisMc73

Don't answer that!

I hope we can keep rollover minutes....

Posted by: Havoc21

Quote:

Originally Posted by ManOfGod

I hope we can keep rollover minutes....

yeah me too, i worked hard to get my family plan up to 76,000 rollover minutes

but as far as the branding goes, i would much rather have a at&t branded 8525 rather than a cingular one

Posted by: gravejoker

Quote:

Originally Posted by skidpalace

Re-branding could mean a lot of delay .. not just a month or two ..

Posted by: RulinSmoove

doesnt this remind you of the old 8125 thread. how many posts did it reach before the 8125 was released?

Posted by: Midnight Jazz

Good grief, there are a bunch of lemmings in this thread. It's funny how anyone can pull a date from their rear ends and post it as a release date, and it's almost guaranteed that a few will follow up looking for details.

In fact, I'm willing to bet that even after posting this, if I come back a few pages later and post a date and nothing more, SOMEBODY will get excited and ask for info...

Posted by: amheck

Quote:

Originally Posted by Midnight Jazz

Good grief, there are a bunch of lemmings in this thread. It's funny how anyone can pull a date from their rear ends and post it as a release date, and it's almost guaranteed that a few will follow up looking for details.

In fact, I'm willing to bet that even after posting this, if I come back a few pages later and post a date and nothing more, SOMEBODY will get excited and ask for info...

I doubt anyone is actually making up dates. All these dates seem to be from higher ups at Cingular, or account rep, or whatever. Just goes to show the ammount of mis-inforamtion out there.

Posted by: robothero

Only one way to test that theory...

Posted by: smokeyb111

Quote:

Originally Posted by amheck

I doubt anyone is actually making up dates. All these dates seem to be from higher ups at Cingular, or account rep, or whatever. Just goes to show the ammount of mis-inforamtion out there.

Yeah, doubt people actually MAKE tihngs up...but then again, it takes all types to make the world go around.

I always wondered though, that when an account rep, or manager, or whoever passes on a release date, are they PURPOSELY getting different information to keep ther release dates secret? Sounds like an old Counter-Intel tactic if you ask me.

Posted by: Krash7172

For all of you waiting patiently, I was just invited to the launch of HSDPA in Kansas City on the 19th. They will demo it on an 8525

Posted by: jimalaiyah

I've seen conflicting reports on the media...

miniSD or microSD

it appears half of the sites posting specs show one, half the other.

Posted by: robothero

the TyTN is microSD, i don't think the 8525 would be different. However, since it hasn't been officially announced I could be wrong.

Posted by: Naveen

Quote:

Originally Posted by Krash7172

For all of you waiting patiently, I was just invited to the launch of HSDPA in Kansas City on the 19th. They will demo it on an 8525

maybe you can ask about a launch date for all of your friends here

Posted by: charlie8525

I just got my new M3100

Man it is cool!!!! The only thing is I can't find the cingular 3g internet settings. Does anybody know it off hand so that i can test the 3G?

Posted by: smokeyb111

Quote:

Originally Posted by Krash7172

For all of you waiting patiently, I was just invited to the launch of HSDPA in Kansas City on the 19th. They will demo it on an 8525

Do me a favor and pry open that faceplate for me! LOL I hear that second camera is in "hiding".

Posted by: untoldfate

Quote:

Originally Posted by charlie8525

I just got my new M3100

Man it is cool!!!! The only thing is I can't find the cingular 3g internet settings. Does anybody know it off hand so that i can test the 3G?

congradulations, now you might want to change your s/n (charlieM3100)

Posted by: skidpalace

Quote:

Originally Posted by smokeyb111

Do me a favor and pry open that faceplate for me! LOL I hear that second camera is in "hiding".

Pay close attention to it when you go throught the airport xray scanners... see if you can detect the camera lens

Posted by: Jakaroe808

The whole hidden camera thing is so bizarre to me.. The craziest thing about it is that I believe Cingular would definitely do this to save money and it's funny that so many people got irate about not having the camera when in fact it may have never left.. It's just bizarre.. Hiding a camera on a device.. You know at some point, some guy is going to drop his 8525 and the darn metallic strip will pop off and he'll wonder what the hell a camera was doing hiding in his device...

Posted by: ChicagoDrew

Quote:

Originally Posted by RF9

3G is very nice. EDGE is adequate for most email web stuff though.
You can get your PDA on the $20 plan too, they all work the same. You just have to call and ask for the plan as if you don't have a PDA. Switch to the MediaMax200 plan after you get your rebate, it's the best value. The data is identical to the $20 smartphone plan + you get more messaging. And most people don't need the extra data access point that the $40 PDA plan comes.

What is the extra data access point? Compared to the Media Max200?

Posted by: Quatre

they aren't going to c hange anything from the tytn. that costs money. they even just covered up the front camera for vid calling instead of removing it.

they wont change the memory card format. All i know is it better have wifi and i might stil import a diff version if i dont like the looks

the 8125 was ugly compared to the imate and qtek versions

saw/heard about this ATT Bell south merger but didn't think it would have anything to do with Cingular.

i thought they were going to concentrate on other stuff like cable tv and such. that would be a mess for cing to change back to att after only a few years of just the opposite which was a big enogh pain for everyone and the company.

Posted by: Quatre

Quote:

Originally Posted by gravejoker

good info. so there is some benefit to using pda connect and to justify it costing more.

i know a lot of ppl used to get away with just having cheaper media net with treo 650 on cing and then i dont thin there was much if any diff.

i guess now wiht hsdpa though you have to have a special plan to make use of that right? or no , i guess if your phone is hsdpa and you have a 3g signal it will be those speeds, your data plan can't stop that, but like you said one goes through wap.cingular which can be slower then isp.cingular.

makes sense. interesting, but sucks, i dont want ot have to pay more for data.

btw since i may not be waiting for cing release and just import the tytn, i will have to get a new 3g sim card though right from cing? they will charge for that? i guess it will pay to get at least one hsdpa phone from cing store so i get the 3g sim card with it that i can then use in other import hsdpa phone though i guess there arent many cus the euro hsdpa is difff hten ours but import tytn is same hsdpa as ours.

maybe i'll wait for the samsung i607 from cing to get the 3g card and then get then import the tytn if its not out in cing by then or is not as good in some way as import tytn.

i have 2 upgrades to use but nothing worth using it on right now and i'm not getting the lG cu500, eff that.

may just import a krzr for now to use while i'm still only using cing for voice.

then i'll be lookin to get the i607 , cing 8525 (or import tytn) and the moto razr maxx with hsdpa.

Posted by: mark8525

Quote:

Originally Posted by charlie8525

I just got my new M3100

Man it is cool!!!! The only thing is I can't find the cingular 3g internet settings. Does anybody know it off hand so that i can test the 3G?

try here: https://cingular.atgnow.com/cng/tutorials/KB56475.html

How about hooking the rest of us up with your contact ? ? ?

Posted by: CES1951

I got a glitzy mailing at home last night pushing the 8125. Couldn't believe it. Called, and just got off the phone with, my Cingular B2B representative. He said that they will not release the 8525 till they deplete the stocks of 8125's. They're even having a contest in his office today to see who can palm off (no pun intended) the most 8125's. His bottom line is that no one knows when it will really be released. He got tired of waiting and bought himself an unbranded HTC TyTN on eBay. Which he loves . . .

Posted by: berdinkerdickle

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Originally Posted by CES1951

...clip...He said that they will not release the 8525 till they deplete the stocks of 8125's. ...clip... .

Well,

p**s on them.

Posted by: folsomparty

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Originally Posted by CES1951

...He got tired of waiting and bought himself an unbranded HTC TyTN on eBay. Which he loves . . .

I'm getting close to pulling the trigger on a TytN too. I see there are many versions of this phone...m3100, imate jas-something. Are there any significant differences in these?

Posted by: pdausr1

Cingular settings for TyTN/ m3100
Access point name: wap.cingular
Username: WAP@CINGULARGPRS.COM (case sensitive)
Password: CINGULAR1 (case sensitive)
Also go into advanced on username screen check boxs 4 software and IP headerCompression.
tap server tab and mark use spcific server address
settings are DNS 4.2.2.2
alt DNS 4.2.2.1 leve WINS AND Alt WINS. Hope this helps.

Posted by: RF9

After all of the whining and belly aching on here about the 8525 coming out, I've decided I'm getting the Treo 750 instead. My experience with the refurb 8125 I got a week ago and test driving a Treo 700 last night helped me concluded this with about 85% assurance
While I'll follow this thread with great interest. But it looks like I've got my sights set on the Treo 750 at this pont.
I'll have some time to wait and think about it. In the mean time we'll see if I don't really fall in love with this 8125 and change my mind betwee now and when these things are available. But the longer I have the 8125 the more I'm convinced that I want the Treo 750.
If anyone wants to know why, I posted here on Treo Central:
http://discussion.treocentral.com/s...287#post1101287
Of course, the way things are going, I might end up buying both. But I now the 750 will be the first and primary device.

Posted by: kenny6774

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Originally Posted by RF9

After all of the whining and belly aching on here about the 8525 coming out, I've decided I'm getting the Treo 750 instead. My experience with the refurb 8125 I got a week ago and test driving a Treo 700 last night helped me concluded this with about 85% assurance
While I'll follow this thread with great interest. But it looks like I've got my sights set on the Treo 750 at this pont.
I'll have some time to wait and think about it. In the mean time we'll see if I don't really fall in love with this 8125 and change my mind betwee now and when these things are available. But the longer I have the 8125 the more I'm convinced that I want the Treo 750.
If anyone wants to know why, I posted here on Treo Central:
http://discussion.treocentral.com/s...287#post1101287
Of course, the way things are going, I might end up buying both. But I now the 750 will be the first and primary device.

Well if you really like the 750 I hope you get it...I hope a lot of people get Palm devices. I own stock in the company and the share price has taken a beating so obviously I'm biased. However this 8525 is a thing of beauty and has taken all my attention...shame I have to stay with Cingular to get it. Palm is releasing a new phone tommorow...damn I wish it was the 8525!! It's not looking too good for the company though cause HTC is bringing the heat.

Posted by: kenny6774

Went into the Cingular store on Wall St. on Tuesday...asked the girl about the 8525 and it's release date...surprisingly she said 3 weeks....surprisingly because these sales people generally don't know what the F they're talking about and certainly not about a phone that has yet to be officially announced. However she did jokingly caution that 3 weeks could turn into 3 months. FYI...Cingular is having their 3rd qtr. conference calls for investors on the 19th... http://www.cingular.com/investors

they usually don't announce new phones this close to these calls or during these calls but rather a few weeks after. So it's looking good for a last week Oct....1st week Nov. launch.

Posted by: CES1951

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Originally Posted by folsomparty

I'm getting close to pulling the trigger on a TytN too. I see there are many versions of this phone...m3100, imate jas-something. Are there any significant differences in these?

Here's a link to a comparison chart.

http://www.pdadb.net/index.php?m=pd...pe=HTC%20Hermes

I'm thinking the best deal is an unbranded HTC TyTN with HTC international warranty. They seem to go for a bit more, but I'd like to think you can get support for them. The support for a Vodaphone or T-Mobile German handset might be dicier.

Posted by: Miamifan1354

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Originally Posted by kenny6774

Well if you really like the 750 I hope you get it...I hope a lot of people get Palm devices. I own stock in the company and the share price has taken a beating so obviously I'm biased...snip

On that note, please buy all of your devices with your mastercard!!

Anyway, with all of the pages we have to look through, and the obvious fact that this phone isn't out now, and most likely won't be any time soon, what's the best place to buy a tytn?

Posted by: Theprezodent