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Posted by: rjk6w4

Not sure if this is known yet, but I have good word that the HTC Star Trek will hit Cingular sometime this fall (possibly September) and be known as the Cingular 3125. Just figured some of you would like to know, as this looks to be a super-hot phone. No word on pricing just yet...

Posted by: CPcrazyfly

well im convinced!

Posted by: rjk6w4

I wasn't trying to convince anyone - just getting some information out there that I figured someone would find useful. Make sure to return to this thread in the fall though, ok? You will see.

Posted by: eimajuno

Only time will tell. I hope that it does not become another mpx220 fiasco.

Posted by: CeluGeek

Wasn't it going to be named Cingular 6500?

Posted by: I have a phone

Quote:

Originally Posted by WM4me

Wasn't it going to be named Cingular 6500?

not this one

Posted by: cjasus730

You might be referring to the Ipaq...lol.

Posted by: CeluGeek

Quote:

Originally Posted by cjasus730

You might be referring to the Ipaq...lol.

No, I was refering to the Cingular/HTC 6500 that appears on this page in the list of phones that don't qualify for insurance.

Posted by: .7

I am posting this thread so we can keep the conversation on this device organized. I hate to post a sticky without conformation from my sources but I think you guys are going to want to discuss it.

Usual rules apply, eveyone play nice with eachother when it comes to release dates.

Ill post some more pics and info soon.

engadgetmobile new post

Posted by: rjk6w4

My prognostication and the time-frame look to have been accurate if the "boy genius" engadget post is correct. Now we'll have to see if they stick with the 3125 nomenclature, or could this possibly be Cingular's first HTC branded device? They would obviously have to come up with something other than star trek to avoid litigation...

Posted by: KikoKazuma

It's been confirmed a long time ago.

Posted by: mshelby

The StarTrek is the 3125, the 6500 can either be the name for the Hermes or Oxygen...then again could just be misplaced on there.

Posted by: rjk6w4

Quote:

Originally Posted by KikoKazuma

It's been confirmed a long time ago.

When exactly was this confirmed and when was it known this was going to be the 3125? Link, perhaps?

Posted by: hitechy

Whatever happened to HTC having their own brand?

Posted by: KlamshellKing

6500 is the hermes

Posted by: hylton

Quote:

Originally Posted by hitechy

Whatever happened to HTC having their own brand?

HTC is still moving to their own brand, but not on this phone, it will remain the Qtek 8500 and Dopod S300 in non-carrier channels...and whatever Cingular names it.

Also, HTC will continue carrier branded business...so all the players that have things now, VZW, Sprint, Cingular, TMo, etc, will still have those and continue to pick up new stuff under their own branding w/ HTC products...they are only moving to a single brand outside of carrier business...so no more Qtek and supposedly no more Dopod.

Jury is still out on I-mate, w/o HTC they kinda go defunct IMO, but I guess they'll pick up another OEM or someone pull this out to continue rebranding HTC products, but I doubt the latter.

Chris

Posted by: iamthedudeman

Any new info on this Phone? When is it coming, I don't know if I want to wait. This thread has been dead for some time. Any new info would be appreciated.

Posted by: Michael95GT

Unless you buy alot of stuff from Cingular(tones,wallpapers,etc) I would go with the Qtek 8500/Dopod S300/Imate Smartflip. I'm loving my 8500 (No, i'm not experiencing the "missed call" problem) I thinking seriously about putting the trusty V3i on Ebay, as I think I've found it replacement (Beauty & Brain's in one package)

Also if ppricing is anything like what we've heard the Cingular V3i is supposed to be, it will actualy be cheaper to buy the Unlocked/Unbranded version.

Posted by: badgermac

So where could you pick up one of these Michael95gt? It's very intruiging!

Posted by: Michael95GT

I got mine off Ebay

Posted by: rperalta

Quote:

Originally Posted by badgermac

So where could you pick up one of these Michael95gt? It's very intruiging!

I got mine from www.smart-mobile-gadgets.com. They got the 8500 first in North America and they they take care their customers (call, email, new ROMS, etc.).

Regards,

Posted by: Michael95GT

Quote:

I got mine from www.smart-mobile-gadgets.com. They got the 8500 first in North America and they they take care their customers (call, email, new ROMS, etc.)

Yeah, thats who I got mine from too. I just got mine from one of his eBay listings instead of the website, and yeah enough can't be said about the fantastic service and fast shipping. I bought mine with a "Buy It Now" and I had an email with all my shipping/tracking info within an hour!!!

Posted by: larry dean

I have been lead to beleive that Cingular is going the call this their Cingular 3125

Posted by: badgermac

SO thus far, for those have used teh QTEK version, is it worth it?

Posted by: rperalta

Quote:

Originally Posted by badgermac

SO thus far, for those have used teh QTEK version, is it worth it?

Yes.....and no contract required from carriers!!!

Posted by: nskgti23

There are a number of these around my office right now...

Posted by: AMSguitarist

The 3125 is on the new rebate form beginning July 23rd... so I'm assuming this is going to be released shortly (or at least they're planning to release it very soon)

Posted by: hitechy

Quote:

Originally Posted by nskgti23

There are a number of these around my office right now...

What's your office?

Posted by: nskgti23

Quote:

Originally Posted by hitechy

What's your office?

I don't work in a store...

Posted by: rjk6w4

Quote:

Originally Posted by CPcrazyfly

well im convinced!

Convinced yet? 3125 is showing up on the rebate forms, as someone stated a few posts back. Anyone seen or heard anything on pricing?

Posted by: anubis9278

a clamshell 2125....pass

Posted by: CeluGeek

I hope Cingular's version of the star-trek doesn't have the ugly round keys ala Nokia 3595.

Posted by: nskgti23

Quote:

Originally Posted by WM4me

I hope Cingular's version of the star-trek doesn't have the ugly round keys ala Nokia 3595.

It doesn't....

Posted by: hylton

Quote:

Originally Posted by nskgti23

It doesn't....

so what exactly can you share on this device...if folks have this where you are, the Cingular branded version, do they have missed call issues, can you confirm the 'non-camera' version, release date, anything ???

I know, you are probably sworn to secrecy, but you did post about it...haha...

chris

Posted by: Nastronomical

http://www.gizmodo.com/gadgets/cell...-8th-190062.php

Posted by: LoFo

For you guys that already have this phone. Can you play protected WMA files in it?

I'm assuming yes, because of the Media Player 10, but you never know these days.

Thanks

Posted by: Michael95GT

Quote:

the Cingular branded version, do they have missed call issues, can you confirm the 'non-camera' version, release date, anything ?

There isn't a "No Camera" version that I'm aware of.

Quote:

For you guys that already have this phone. Can you play protected WMA files in it?

I'm assuming yes, because of the Media Player 10, but you never know these days

Give an example of a "protected WMA file" I haven't found a WMA file it won't play so far, but mostly all I've messed around with are ringtones. I can say it will play pirated ringtones from Cingulars site!

Posted by: nskgti23

There is a no camera version, I had it in my hand monday... From speaking with my friend who has one, he said it is one of the best/most stable phones he has used... No missed call issues.

As for release dates or any other info... I can't confirm or deny anything.

Posted by: helpermonkey

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael95GT

There isn't a "No Camera" version that I'm aware of.

I think there is.

Posted by: cingtony

The non camera version (3120 ) i believe is going to be FAN's only and by special order.

Posted by: Michael95GT

Quote:

The non camera version (3120 ) i believe is going to be FAN's only and by special order.

Cool, I stand corrected. Are there any pix online anywhere, is it just like the 3125 appearancewise, minus the camera lens?

Posted by: LoFo

Michael, I sent you a pm about the protected wma.

HTC doesn't mention wma+ on their site (http://europe.htc.com/support/faq.html?id=76) so I'm more than skeptical about it now.

Posted by: exander

Any more information about a release date? I saw that one site says August 8 but no one else confirms it so I'm suspicious of the authenticity of that info.

If it won't be out for a while I guess I'll fork out the $400 and get one now but if it's around the corner I'll wait. . . .

Posted by: cingtony

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael95GT

Cool, I stand corrected. Are there any pix online anywhere, is it just like the 3125 appearancewise, minus the camera lens?

I haven't seen any pics so i don't know .

Posted by: .7

Quote:

Originally Posted by cingtony

I haven't seen any pics so i don't know .

stay tuned...one of my sources has a 3125 in hand with Cingular branding. Im not promising anything but we might get some pics.

Posted by: helpermonkey

Quote:

Originally Posted by exander

Any more information about a release date? I saw that one site says August 8 but no one else confirms it so I'm suspicious of the authenticity of that info.

If it won't be out for a while I guess I'll fork out the $400 and get one now but if it's around the corner I'll wait. . . .

That seems a little early, but it could be close. You never know though.

Posted by: TruBlu01

It's looking like August 8th, according to the website: http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/cellphon...-8th-190062.php

Posted by: exander

That's the only website that says that. I can't find any information anywhere else on the net and the Cingular rep I talked to didn't know anything about it. Sounds too good to be true.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TruBlu01

It's looking like August 8th, according to the website: http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/cellphon...-8th-190062.php

Posted by: exander

In case the phone doesn't come to Cingular for a while where is the best place to buy the unlocked phone online?

Posted by: KlamshellKing

all the ppc sellers on hofo

Posted by: exander

Dumb question: What's a ppc seller?

Here's some more info on the release from that same site.
http://www.theunwired.net/?itemid=3210#article

Quote:

Originally Posted by kisher12991

all the ppc sellers on hofo

Posted by: Marianoz

Just spoke to my local store and the guy I talk to told me that the 3125 will be available in late August. This is not a corp store, it is a reseller so I think it is pretty plublic now. He told me that there is no pricing available yet.

Hopefully it will come out relatively "bug free." I had a Qtek 8500 that would miss each and every call if the phone went into the deep sleep....the patch would not work for me as I travel overseas quite often, having the always on setting would rak up my data roaming charges.

Posted by: N7TND

I CID Unlocked my 8500 and am using the iMate ROM; phone works really well.

Good receiver and excellent audio. Should be a winner for Cingular.

Posted by: N7TND

Quote:

Originally Posted by nskgti23

There is a no camera version, I had it in my hand monday... From speaking with my friend who has one, he said it is one of the best/most stable phones he has used... No missed call issues.

As for release dates or any other info... I can't confirm or deny anything.

Do you know if there will be a version of Xpress Mail for it? I have tried to run the 2125 version but it does not work.

Posted by: helpermonkey

Quote:

Originally Posted by N7TND

Do you know if there will be a version of Xpress Mail for it? I have tried to run the 2125 version but it does not work.

Yes there will.

Posted by: elushon

Well we know the phone has to come out soon as it's plopped firmly on the new rebate form, so I'd say will see this as everyone has said in August.

I'm gonna ball park it at right around 200-250 after the 100 MIR.

But I'm purely speculating here guessing it's in the middle, based on the pricing on the 2125 and 8125.

Posted by: Marianoz

You are right about the rebate form listing the 3125, I think that even bigger proof is the fact that the form specially gives "offer good through" dates of July 23, 2006 through September 23, 2006. This logically would indicate that the 3125 will very likely come out anytime between those two dates. Still...sometimes logic doesn't have anything to do with it, but at least shows some intent / posibility to have the phone out during that window of time.

Posted by: SimpleCell

great pics on Msmobiles.com of this phone http://msmobiles.com/news.php/5105.html

Posted by: .7

check OP...Cingular branded device pics

Please dont quote the pics for those who dont have broadband so the pages load quicker

thanks

.7

Posted by: PointZero

I wonder how much this is going to tank the price for the Cingular 2125.

Posted by: .7

Quote:

Originally Posted by PointZero

I wonder how much this is going to tank the price for the Cingular 2125.

The 2125 is pretty low as is after rebate. I believe its $99.

Posted by: dwest218

Anyone know if we will see both black and pink versions?

Posted by: .7

Quote:

Originally Posted by dwest218

Anyone know if we will see both black and pink versions?

I really doubt you'll see the pink one.

Posted by: Michael95GT

I'm patiently waiting for the Cingular ROM

Posted by: exander

I just spoke with a Cingular rep and he said that just because a phone is listed on a rebate form doesn't mean it's going to be released. WTH!

Posted by: hylton

Quote:

Originally Posted by exander

I just spoke with a Cingular rep and he said that just because a phone is listed on a rebate form doesn't mean it's going to be released. WTH!

He's just talking to hear himself talk...99 times out of 100, I doubt seriously a CS rep would know much about upcoming devices.

The phone is coming out...maybe not on the 8th as rumored, but it's coming...

If you recall, when the 2125 and 8125 came out, nobody at Cingular knew what people were talking about even after the phone came out and was being sold on the website, they were still dumbfounded by a 'Cingular branded' phone. It took me over 30 minutes from the time my call was taken by a CS rep one day to actually get to the point where they acknowledged the existence of the 2125, and it had been for sale on Cingular.com for a week or two at that point. They kept asking me for the brand and wouldn't take Cingular as an answer, they said they only sold Nokia, Moto, etc...all the name brands on the website.

Contacting the office of the president MIGHT result in some additional information, but they'll probably not disclose anything until it's official or it goes on sale.

Chris

Posted by: exander

Just found this:

HTC Star Trek smartphone and new HP iPAQ Pocket PC phone with GPS are coming to Cingular very soon !

August 01, 2006 [General]
The times when USA was discriminated with regard to Windows Mobile phones are over: not just because Motorola Q and Windows Mobile Treo are available only in USA, but also other Windows Mobile phones are being released in USA in timely manner...

If you are located in USA then you will be able to buy on subscription (meaning: much cheaper) new HP iPAQ Pocket PC phones with built-in GPS and Wi-Fi and the new ultra-stylish HTC Star Trek smartphone (clone of Motorola RAZR but powered by MS Smartphone OS):

the information we just received is pretty solid. Apparently Cingular is going to release the hw6920, 6925 iPAQ next week. Shocking but it apparently is true! Not only will Cingular release the hw6925 iPAQ they will be selling the Cingular 3125 aka HTC Star Trek. We also received notice that some rebates will also be included!! The hw6925 will have a $50.00 rebate and the Cingular 3125 will offer a $100 rebate!

Posted by: TruBlu01

Nice find!

Posted by: helpermonkey

Quote:

Originally Posted by exander

Just found this:

HTC Star Trek smartphone and new HP iPAQ Pocket PC phone with GPS are coming to Cingular very soon !

August 01, 2006 [General]
The times when USA was discriminated with regard to Windows Mobile phones are over: not just because Motorola Q and Windows Mobile Treo are available only in USA, but also other Windows Mobile phones are being released in USA in timely manner...

If you are located in USA then you will be able to buy on subscription (meaning: much cheaper) new HP iPAQ Pocket PC phones with built-in GPS and Wi-Fi and the new ultra-stylish HTC Star Trek smartphone (clone of Motorola RAZR but powered by MS Smartphone OS):

the information we just received is pretty solid. Apparently Cingular is going to release the hw6920, 6925 iPAQ next week. Shocking but it apparently is true! Not only will Cingular release the hw6925 iPAQ they will be selling the Cingular 3125 aka HTC Star Trek. We also received notice that some rebates will also be included!! The hw6925 will have a $50.00 rebate and the Cingular 3125 will offer a $100 rebate!

Don't believe the hype. I think the Startreck is a possibility, but I would bet against the HP next week with no hesitation.

Posted by: robg69

I was just at my local store. The rep showed his new item list briefly. On it was the 3125 with a list of specs and the RAZR V3i. The RAZR will be available next week and the 3125 some time in August depending in test issues. This is roughly what was stated on the sheet.

Posted by: substance12

can someone explain to me the selling point of this phone? is it because of the OS? clam smartphone?

Posted by: KlamshellKing

the selling point of this phone is its small, has great reception/ call quality and yea, because its a smartphone with 3rd party apps... i think i may ditch my 8125 for this phone and then get the hermes when that comes out

Posted by: TruBlu01

I ditched my 8125 and am waiting patiently. The thing is I had the MPx220 and when it worked it was great. But now to have a Razr size smartphone, what more do you need, if you don't want a PDA phone?

Posted by: N7TND

Quote:

Originally Posted by kisher12991

the selling point of this phone is its small, has great reception/ call quality and yea, because its a smartphone with 3rd party apps... i think i may ditch my 8125 for this phone and then get the hermes when that comes out

I was gonna get rid of my Treo 650 when the 8125 hit. When I played with the 8125 I was very disappointed in how it 'felt' and the voice quality when I placed a test call. The fact it was only Edge cinched the deal with me.

I am also waiting for some high-speed handset and really hoping for a treo variant. I guess waiting builds character huh??

Posted by: nskgti23

Why are we talking about the 8125 in the 3125 thread?

Posted by: CeluGeek

So HTC finally managed to get us a smartphone without a hump?

Posted by: helpermonkey

Quote:

Originally Posted by WM4me

So HTC finally managed to get us a smartphone without a hump?

A hump? The extra big battery gives it a hump...

Posted by: Davis2020

Does the 3125 Have any push email functions?

Posted by: TruBlu01

Yes it does, along with the Stereo over Bluetooth Headphones (A2DP is it?)

Posted by: exander

Hope, hope.

http://www.mobilemag.com/content/100/340/C8928/

Posted by: Scotty_T

Can someone post the specs on this thing?

Posted by: LoFo

I'm sure there are other places selling it, but ebay was the quickest I could find.

Posted by: TruBlu01

http://europe.htc.com/products/qtek8500.html

Posted by: puckchump

I just got off the phone with customer care and they said there is no way its coming in the next 30 days but my local cingular store said they will have it by thursday

Posted by: Naveen

the design is great, but i wish the inside screen was a bit bigger

Posted by: helpermonkey

Quote:

Originally Posted by puckchump

I just got off the phone with customer care and they said there is no way its coming in the next 30 days but my local cingular store said they will have it by thursday

Take it from me, that store is wrong and really doesn't know. They may think they are getting it, but I know they are not. It would be at least the end of the month at the soonest.

Posted by: KlamshellKing

Quote:

Originally Posted by Naveen

the design is great, but i wish the inside screen was a bit bigger

exactly... you put in a 2.4" screen and im all over this phone

Posted by: rperalta

How come there's no photo of the 3125 available yet (from people testing) ?

Posted by: exander

Quote:

Originally Posted by helpermonkey

Take it from me, that store is wrong and really doesn't know. They may think they are getting it, but I know they are not. It would be at least the end of the month at the soonest.

Posted by: helpermonkey

Quote:

Originally Posted by rperalta

How come there's no photo of the 3125 available yet (from people testing) ?

I don't know if the test units look the same as the final units, at least some don't.

Posted by: rperalta

Quote:

Originally Posted by helpermonkey

I don't know if the test units look the same as the final units, at least some don't.

How come there is no photos from people testing it? Usually we get pics such as the sytem info or some blurred picture of something.

Posted by: robg69

Quote:

Originally Posted by rperalta

How come there is no photos from people testing it? Usually we get pics such as the sytem info or some blurred picture of something.

Try looking at the first post of this thread.

Posted by: LoFo

Not to mention post #58.

Posted by: exander

Heck with the pictures, I want the phone!

Posted by: Marianoz

Quote:

Originally Posted by robg69

Try looking at the first post of this thread.

I guess what we want is to see pictures of the "Cingular Branded Version" of the phone and not the Qtek, iMate, or Dopod versions. It is strange that the phone is about to be launch and nobody has posted pictures with the Cingular logo. I think that that in itself is an indication that we are not going to see this phone launch by Cingular for at least a few weeks. I really hope I am wrong.

It would really be nice if it really came out tomorrow. But for that, stores would had to received them already -- so word would have been out by now. Perhaps before September!

Just thinking out loud...maybe it will be available on the web first, I think that is how they launched the 2125.

Posted by: John-Fox

You need to look at Page 1 of this forum to see the pictures of the Cingular branded phone. It took me a few days to figure it out, but they have been there over a week now, or longer.

Though I hope I am wrong, but I have decided this phone is not very close (like a matter of days) to being released, and here are my reasons: there is no www.cingular.com/3125 like there was/still is for the 2125 and the 8125; and often the option to select the phone from a list in the ringtone area of their website is there prior to release, but not on this one. My thoughts ... but I hope they are wrong.

Posted by: helpermonkey

I already said it will not be released before the end of the month. I am not speculating. But continue your speculation on its release date...

Posted by: John-Fox

Sometimes the masses will be convinced with at least half-thought out arguments/observations, rather than a lone person proclaiming "I know."

But for kicks, I am going to start saying it is coming out on Thursday. Anyone else want to help me get under uptight poster's skin?

Posted by: exander

Thursday is good for me.

In fact, I already have like 10 of them in my desk drawer. I use them as paper weights.

Posted by: helpermonkey

Quote:

Originally Posted by John-Fox

Sometimes the masses will be convinced with at least half-thought out arguments/observations, rather than a lone person proclaiming "I know."

But for kicks, I am going to start saying it is coming out on Thursday. Anyone else want to help me get under uptight poster's skin?

The difference between the people guessing and the people knowing is the people knowing can't get into how they know how. What would you like a detailed explanation? Think about how realistic that is. Feel free trying to annoy the people who provide useful information I am sure it will be helpful.

Posted by: exander

Quote:

Originally Posted by helpermonkey

I think he's just joking, I am. We all appreciate any info we can get about upcoming phones.

It's hard to tell sometimes who is in the know and who is repeating something they heard somehwhere. The whole planet is convinced it's coming tomorrow because one site said it would a few weeks back.

Posted by: SHoTTa35

well yeah, i wonder if i'll be able to bill it to my account? I'm deathly ready for it. If it came out now i'd have no choice but to bill it to my account (FAN Account) so hopefully they do it. When the MPx220 came out i paid for it full cash but right now it's the first of the month so bills come first then phones but the bank would have to wait if my girl would allow it. LOL OH man i want this phone so bad. My MPx is giving a few lil issues (mainly battery related) so instead of buying a new one or fixing it i could just get this instead! OMG i can't wait!

The Cingular version on page 1 doesn't look too bad either. NOt that many logos even tho i might strip the one on the outside and just leave it on the inside.

Posted by: exander

How do you get the logo off the phone without scratching it?

Posted by: Marianoz

Quote:

Originally Posted by exander

How do you get the logo off the phone without scratching it?

I have read that some people rub the logo with "sugar cubes", the logo rubs off without damaging the finish.

I stopped by the Cingular corporate store at Fair Oaks mall in Fairfax Virginia this afternoon, I asked the store manager about the 3125 and he told me that for him to be able to sell the phone tomorrow he should have to at least had received it today, he didn't. However, he said that some stores will have it by tomorrow and that the web site will very likely feature it tomorrow as well. Looks promising...I guess that we will find out in less than 24 hours.

Posted by: exander

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marianoz

I have read that some people rub the logo with "sugar cubes", the logo rubs off without damaging the finish.

Sugar cubes?

Posted by: Marianoz

Quote:

Originally Posted by exander

Sugar cubes?

They are not as common nowadays, but you can still find them at the grocery store. Usually we find sugar...and sugar substitutes in little envelopes or we just use a spoon to pour sugar in our coffee. But before all that, people used to just drop a couple of "sugar cubes" in their coffee or tea. Just "google" the words "sugar cubes" and you will find that they are still around. I guess your question pretty muchs gives away your rough age...and I guess my answer gives away mine

Posted by: helpermonkey

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marianoz

The phone is still in field testing.

Posted by: kingbear2

Quote:

Originally Posted by helpermonkey

The phone is still in field testing.

HelperMonkey,

I can't help but ask if you can possibly enlighten all of us as to how you know this information. Many of us are waiting eagerly for this phone to come out, and any additional info would be very helpful.

Posted by: ACHI

Quote:

Originally Posted by helpermonkey

The phone is still in field testing.

Wow, that really made my day.

He comes in here, writes a line and mysteriously leaves. That's phenomenal.

Try backing up your claims up with at least one additional sentence.

Kudos to you and yours.

Posted by: exander

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marianoz

I'm plenty old enough to know what sugar cubes are.

I'm just confused as to how they would be used. Do you just rub them on the phone "dry"?

Posted by: anubis9278

here a one liner....er worder

September

Posted by: exander

Quote:

Originally Posted by anubis9278

here a one liner....er worder

September

So, would you say, early September or late September?

Posted by: exander

Quote:

Originally Posted by ACHI

Wow, that really made my day.

He comes in here, writes a line and mysteriously leaves. That's phenomenal.

Try backing up your claims up with at least one additional sentence.

Kudos to you and yours.

The guy is trying to help us out. Why give him siht?

Posted by: John-Fox

Oh yeah, well, I still say it will be a Thursday. Ha! I hope the ROM that Cingular puts out on it is better than the latest update for the 2125. I think I would give up push-style e-mail to be able to go back to entering words without having buttons stick!

Posted by: anubis9278

i have to ask...why Thursday?

wouldn't u prefer a

Wednesday.

and early sept if all goes well in the upcoming weeks.

Posted by: ACHI

Quote:

Originally Posted by exander

The guy is trying to help us out. Why give him siht?

Why on earth would you claim that it's not coming for a while and not cite your sources?

Oh, wait, because he has no sources and is blindly speaking. That's why.

Ask me again why I give him ****.

Posted by: helpermonkey

Quote:

Originally Posted by ACHI

Why on earth would you claim that it's not coming for a while and not cite your sources?

Oh, wait, because he has no sources and is blindly speaking. That's why.

Ask me again why I give him ****.

Yes it really is that easy. What would you like me to cite? Maybe you would like me to post people's names, phone numbers? Please. And if you don't like the one liners then ignore them. Or would you prefer I back up the wrong information? Can't say I feel like defending myself or my info to you though.

Posted by: nskgti23

Quote:

Originally Posted by ACHI

Why on earth would you claim that it's not coming for a while and not cite your sources?

Oh, wait, because he has no sources and is blindly speaking. That's why.

Ask me again why I give him ****.

You don't have a clue what you are talking about... Helper Monkey is by all my estimates correct. I'm guessing our sources are different, but I'll go out out on a limb and say his sources are easily as accurate as mine. And I'm almost always on target with these things...

Posted by: helpermonkey

Thank you.

Posted by: kingbear2

Well, it's the morning of August 8th and still nothing. I may just resort to buying this phone on e-bay as a QTek 8500.

Posted by: exander

Quote:

Originally Posted by kingbear2

Well, it's the morning of August 8th and still nothing. I may just resort to buying this phone on e-bay as a QTek 8500.

Don't do it! You can make it! Hold on!

I'm tempted myself but I figure the Cingular phone should have all the bugs worked out and I'll be able to get support from them.

Posted by: TruBlu01

If you have the extra $200 then go for it. I have a SLVR for now, works for me

Posted by: lopezpm

How long does a phone go through field testing?

Posted by: Marianoz

Quote:

Originally Posted by exander

I'm plenty old enough to know what sugar cubes are.

I'm just confused as to how they would be used. Do you just rub them on the phone "dry"?

Yes you do, there is a thread here in HoFo detailing the process. I think people used this method to get the logos off their Jams and / or K-Jams.

Posted by: exander

I see a few Qtek 8500s on ebay for about $200 for those that can't wait.

Posted by: Willie3White

The phones on ebay for 200 are a fake they want you to western union them the money, and they are in romania

Posted by: exander

Quote:

Originally Posted by Willie3White

The phones on ebay for 200 are a fake they want you to western union them the money, and they are in romania

Here's one from the US - http://cgi.ebay.com/Brand-new-Qtek-...1QQcmdZViewItem Right?

Posted by: hylton

Quote:

Originally Posted by exander

Here's one from the US - http://cgi.ebay.com/Brand-new-Qtek-...1QQcmdZViewItem Right?

That one's not a 'buy it now', it's just currently @ $200 in the bidding, still 12 hours to go, no way it'll sell for $200, or even $300.

Posted by: exander

You are right. But it might be worth watching!

Posted by: TruBlu01

They sell on Ebay for around $400.

Posted by: kingbear2

Quote:

Originally Posted by exander

Don't do it! You can make it! Hold on!

I'm tempted myself but I figure the Cingular phone should have all the bugs worked out and I'll be able to get support from them.

In a way I agree with you, that getting the cingular model will allow me better support and warrantee (which I've been using a LOT of with my current MPx220), but then again, Cingular warranty is not such a big deal. I can probably send them a Qtek and they wouldn't realize. I've sent back MPx's with Chinese firmware, and other one's that I've bricked by playing with the firmware and never had a problem. Well, at least those said Cingular on them. I don't know. If someone tells me for sure that they are coming out soon, I will wait, but otherwise, it's gonna be like the Cingular 8125 which dragged on forever.

And also in regards to the bugs, big deal! I'll just CID unlock it and install the Cingular ROM when it comes out. In the actual hardware I doubt there will be any differences. Does anyone know otherwise?

Posted by: hylton

Quote:

Originally Posted by exander

You are right. But it might be worth watching!

True...and there is a buy it now from what looks to be a reputable individual, for $375, which is a decent price, but you can buy from SMG or MMB for not much more than that and be sure to get support for returns and such during the warranty period.

I personally would not buy from ebay unless it was also one of these guys that have gotten good reviews from members here.

Chris

Posted by: TruBlu01

If you have sent your MPX220 back to XBM 3 times or more for issues, if you complain enough, they will upgrade you to one of the latest WM5 devices for free or at least at a very cheap price.

Posted by: kingbear2

Quote:

Originally Posted by TruBlu01

If you have sent your MPX220 back to XBM 3 times or more for issues, if you complain enough, they will upgrade you to one of the latest WM5 devices for free or at least at a very cheap price.

They were more than willing to many times, but they would only let me upgrade to the 2125 which I did once and promptly returned it. I hate that phone.

Posted by: kingbear2

Quote:

Originally Posted by hylton

Whoa! SMG and MMB allow returns? AND support the warranty? How do you know? If so I'm buying one right now from them!

Posted by: exander

Quote:

Originally Posted by kingbear2

They were more than willing to many times, but they would only let me upgrade to the 2125 which I did once and promptly returned it. I hate that phone.

What didn't you like about the 2125?

Posted by: kingbear2

Quote:

Originally Posted by exander

What didn't you like about the 2125?

I guess it's the candybar issue. I really like a flip. I've been through the StarTac years ago, and the V60 for a very loing time, and now the Mpx220 for the last year and a half. I really like flip phones. I'm not a fan of having to lock my keys and be nervous that I'm calling someone by mistake. If I wouldn't mind the candybar, I would jump at the HTC Meteor, which is UMTS. Awesome! But I guess not yet. Maybe in a year.

Posted by: hylton

Quote:

Originally Posted by kingbear2

Whoa! SMG and MMB allow returns? AND support the warranty? How do you know? If so I'm buying one right now from them!

Sorry, no I'm not saying they honor the warranty or anything, and for the record, I have not bought from either of them (yet)...I'm still waiting on the issues w/ the 8500 to iron out and then I'm gonna have to pick between it and the S200.

What I'm saying is that they (according to posts here on HoFo) have excellent return policies, and regularly have gone out of their way to help their customers correct issues, right down to defective units...again, this is only going on what I've read, not personal experience. SMG has also proved his claim to be able to get devices early, offer an excellent price, and provide ROM support (which is more what i meant by support).

You should make your own decision, and you might want to read thru some posts here from people who have purchased from them, and then talk to both of these guys before you buy, but compared to dealing w/ a huge vendor and/or an unknown entity on Ebay, I'd definitely give one of these guys some consideration. They both have prices that will compete or beat anything you'll bid on w/ ebay.

That's all I was saying...

Chris

Posted by: hylton

Quote:

Originally Posted by exander

What didn't you like about the 2125?

I also used to prefer candybar over flips, but after owning the SMT5600 and dealing w/ that terrible rocker switch, I switched to the MPx220 while awaiting the 2125 release. When the 2125 came out, and after playing w/ it and not being overly impressed w/ that control mechanism either, then reading about joysticks going bad, I decided to stick w/ the MPx220 and it's awesome d-pad until something else came out. That's why I got so excited about the 8500, it's too bad it's turning out to have some major issues out of the chute.

Chris

Posted by: kingbear2

Quote:

Originally Posted by hylton

That's why I got so excited about the 8500, it's too bad it's turning out to have some major issues out of the chute.

I've read here on HoFo that there is a fix to that problem - some type of app you install that pings the phone every 5 minutes to wake it up - no?

Alternatively, keeping the GPRS on also helps, and I will be doing that anyway since I use push e-mail with exchange.

Have you heard of any other problems?

Posted by: hylton

Quote:

Originally Posted by kingbear2

The missed call thing you are referring to is the biggest issue, and yes, the app that keeps the system awake (StayConnected for around $8) seems to work, but there is a discussion regarding this and I haven't been keeping up w/ it...not sure if this work-around works over the long-haul or it just seemed to work for some folks for awhile...might want to check more into that.

When either a new ROM from Qtek comes out, or the CID unlock app is finished and released from XDA, this will resolve the problem w/ the missed calls.

The other problem (which would be HUGE for me) is the limited memory. The ROM and the OS eat up all of the available ROM memory, leaving (according to posts from a couple people, DarkJedi in particular) only about 5mb of application space available. The only solution is to install apps on the SD card, but that doesn't work w/ certain apps (some don't run from SD). Also, I don't want my applications installed to SD either, in case I decide to swap SD cards out at some point.

Anyway...those are the two biggest issues...if the 3125 comes w/ a decent amount of available memory (more than 10mb) and the missed call issue doesn't exist w/ the Cingular ROM, then I'll definitely be getting it. Otherwise, I'll be waiting or considering the Qtek S200.

Chris

Posted by: kingbear2

Quote:

Originally Posted by hylton

When either a new ROM from Qtek comes out, or the CID unlock app is finished and released from XDA, this will resolve the problem w/ the missed calls.

Chris

How will the CID unlock help? Is there an updated ROM already available? From who? (I also havent been keeping up with this)

Posted by: Ihavenosignal

Quote:

Originally Posted by hylton

I'm pretty sure there will be no missed call problem with the Cingular release. And who needs to swap a card when your using 1 gb? Seriously... think about it...

Posted by: helpermonkey

Quote:

Originally Posted by lopezpm

How long does a phone go through field testing?

Phones take as long as it takes to get all the bug (that are known) serious enough to prevent release worked out. There is no set amount of time. SOme devices are fairly quick, others seem to take forever. These device is nearing the end of field testing (it seems). Device approvals are usually pushed back as new bugs are found. That is what happened here apparently.

Posted by: N7TND

I have about 6.5Meg of free memory on mine (iMate ROM). I have a bunch of applications loaded (all on SD card) and the phone runs very well.

Great call quality; good data rate (for EDGE at least) and solid RF.

I am very happy with the unit - I will be completely 'happy' once Cingular releases an Xpress Mail client for the phone.

Posted by: kingbear2

Quote:

Originally Posted by helpermonkey

So any idea of an approximate release date, now that we know it's not gonna be the 8th?

Posted by: kingbear2

Quote:

Originally Posted by N7TND

I have about 6.5Meg of free memory on mine (iMate ROM). I have a bunch of applications loaded (all on SD card) and the phone runs very well.

Great call quality; good data rate (for EDGE at least) and solid RF.

I am very happy with the unit - I will be completely 'happy' once Cingular releases an Xpress Mail client for the phone.

You paid imei-check to CID Unlock it?

Posted by: hylton

Quote:

Originally Posted by kingbear2

How will the CID unlock help? Is there an updated ROM already available? From who? (I also havent been keeping up with this)

1. it'll be free as oppposed to paying $40 for it currently.

2. yes, there are imate and dopod ROMs out there that do not have the missed call problem that you could flash to the phone. the qtek ROM is the only one w/ the issue.

Posted by: hylton

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ihavenosignal

I'm pretty sure there will be no missed call problem with the Cingular release. And who needs to swap a card when your using 1 gb? Seriously... think about it...

I agree, hopefully somebody field testing this w/ Cingular knows about the missed call issue and will get it addressed before the phone comes out.

You may be right about not needing to swap the card, particularly w/ the HTC phones where the card is buried down in the phone. But I do swap my 1gb cards out depending on what I'm doing. I have nav maps, backup software CABs on 1 card, movies and music on another card. But w/ the MPx220, swapping the card is really easy.

Still, even w/ the card inside the phone, if I'm traveling on vacation, I want to pop the card w/ maps into my phone. Otherwise, I want my music when I'm working. 1gb isn't enough and 2gb doesn't work in my phone. I would think the new 2gb microSD will work in the 8500, but that card JUST hit the market and honestly I'm not even sure if you can buy one yet. That would provide enough space for me to just work w/ one card.

Early on in the rumors, I was dying to get this phone, but the benefit of the 8500 as it stands today is (for me) less than the drawbacks of it in it's current form. I may spring for one w/ my contract renewal in Nov, when I can get it for less than a couple hundred bucks, but at $500, nah.

Chris

Posted by: Ihavenosignal

Quote:

Originally Posted by hylton

It'll be $200 with 2yr agreement, just in time for my September upgrade date!

Posted by: Serifan

Quote:

Originally Posted by hylton

I would think the new 2gb microSD will work...I'm not even sure if you can buy one yet.

You can, just trek to your local VZW store or Circuit City.

Posted by: mulletwireless

I just placed an order for the Qtek star trek. I should get it soon. I like the idea of an smart phone thats not big and bulky like the treo or them HP POS handhelds. I was loving the world when moto launched the MPX family! This looks like a winner factory unlocked it runs $599.99.

Posted by: kingbear2

Quote:

Originally Posted by mulletwireless

I just placed an order for the Qtek star trek. I should get it soon. I like the idea of an smart phone thats not big and bulky like the treo or them HP POS handhelds. I was loving the world when moto launched the MPX family! This looks like a winner factory unlocked it runs $599.99.

I also just purchased the Qtek instead of waiting for the Cingular version. I didn't pay that much, but I too am looking forward to it.

Posted by: N7TND

Quote:

Originally Posted by kingbear2

You paid imei-check to CID Unlock it?

Yes I did. It was $28. The result, no deep sleep and other 'crash' issues. Money well spent for me - phone was un-reliable (missed calls) otherwise and the 'stay connected' band-aid did not work for me.

When/if the Cingular ROM comes out I may flash to it; have to see. The iMate ROM has been kind to me.

Posted by: TruBlu01

Good Lord, $600 for a friggin phone that will be $200 in a few weeks or so. Some people have money to burn huh?

Posted by: hylton

Even w/o waiting for the Cingular version which will be loads cheaper, $600 was still $150-$200 more than it could be purchased for from MMB or SMG.

I think $400 for this phone is reasonable, $600 is way to much.

Chris

Posted by: TruBlu01

$400 is reasonable for a phone that has NO PROBLEMS! This has to be unlocked, then update the ROM, then whatever else too.

Posted by: iJITSU

Quote:

Originally Posted by mulletwireless

$600? It is available unlocked at much cheaper prices from several on line retailers.

Posted by: kingbear2

This may have been said before, but can someone tell me where I can get the iMate ROM from? I ordered my phone last night from phonesource-USA on ebay for $365, and I want to immediately unlock it and load the new ROM.

Thanks

Posted by: iJITSU

Quote:

Originally Posted by kingbear2

This may have been said before, but can someone tell me where I can get the iMate ROM from? I ordered my phone last night from phonesource-USA on ebay for $365, and I want to immediately unlock it and load the new ROM.

Thanks

Go to Bengalboy.com. There is a sticky on how to do it and it may include where to get the ROM.

Posted by: Ihavenosignal

This phone is definitely not worth $600. But hey if you go the money to burn, more power to ya.

Posted by: iJITSU

I'm going to buy another 8500, unlock it, load the imate ROM, and be done with it. I don't like the Cingular logo all over the phone (Qtek logo is smaller) and I don't want to wait.

Posted by: N7TND

You won't regret it.

Posted by: N7TND

Quote:

Originally Posted by TruBlu01

Good Lord, $600 for a friggin phone that will be $200 in a few weeks or so. Some people have money to burn huh?

$200 if you are willing to sign a 2 year contract. It will be about $400 without a contract - which is what you can get the QTek version for now.

Posted by: hylton

Quote:

Originally Posted by N7TND

You won't regret it.

Slightly OT, but what does the imate rom have for 'free memory' after a hard reset?

Chris

Posted by: agent2099

I have not seen anyone comment on this yet I don't see it listed anywhere.

Does the Star Trek have a speakerphone? And more importantly is the speakerphone quality any good? Comming from a SMT 5600 this is a very important feature to me, can current users give any input?

Posted by: Michael95GT

Yes it has a speakerphone. I never had a 5600 so I can't compare them, but I can say it isn't as loud as my V3i, if that helps any.

Posted by: TruBlu01

Quote:

Originally Posted by N7TND

$200 if you are willing to sign a 2 year contract. It will be about $400 without a contract - which is what you can get the QTek version for now.

I've been with C for about 7 years, I don't plan on switching providers, so it's no big deal to me.

Posted by: Marianoz

I called around to three or four of my local Cingular stores and was given roughly the same answer. One said that it would definetely be out within the next 90 days, another one said not before September 1st, another one said that anytime between now and September, and almost all said that the phone will be available on the web before they get it in the stores.

This is an improvement from when I called around last week, where they didn't even know what the 3125 was and keep on correcting me and telling me that I was talking abou the "2125". Still, it would be nice if it is available in August rather than in September.

I am so impatient that it is tempting to buy a Qtek 8500 and update the ROM; however, I don't feel confortable doing those things and had a Qtek for one day but ended up returning it when I discovered the "deep sleep issue".

Besides, even if I buy the phone at full price from Cingular, I at least have the option to do an warranty exchange for up to a year. Something that for me personally might prove too disruptive with an iMate or Qtek where you would have to ship the phone to a service center somewhere and wait until it is fixed.

Posted by: TruBlu01

I hear that!

Posted by: Ihavenosignal

I've decided to get this phone over the w810 now, now only if they had a qtek 8500 avatar...

Posted by: SymbianBlack

Whats The Craze Over Windows Mobile??????

Posted by: N7TND

Quote:

Originally Posted by TruBlu01

I've been with C for about 7 years, I don't plan on switching providers, so it's no big deal to me.

It is for me since I am on a legacy data plan (Unlimited MEdia Net, 1,500 Text Messages and 200 MMS) for $19.99 a month. If I 'renew' they have told me they will take me off that plan...

Posted by: TruBlu01

Quote:

Originally Posted by SymbianBlack

Whats The Craze Over Windows Mobile??????

Bill Gates supporter

I like the fact of syncing with Outlook. Windows Mobile Smartphones are usually as small as regular phones with the added features, unlike Pocket PC phones which are usually too large for the pocket.

Posted by: Marianoz

Quote:

Originally Posted by N7TND

It is for me since I am on a legacy data plan (Unlimited MEdia Net, 1,500 Text Messages and 200 MMS) for $19.99 a month. If I 'renew' they have told me they will take me off that plan...

I guess I will too have to pay full price for the phone, as I am also on the legacy $19.99 / month plan.

Posted by: dwest218

Quote:

Originally Posted by SymbianBlack

Whats The Craze Over Windows Mobile??????

hmm... my Qtek 8300 WM Smartphone reminds me of my Windows laptop in the size and convenience of a phone.

But this thread is about the 3125!!

Posted by: rkorzuch

I want my 3125 and I want it now.

Posted by: TruBlu01

Mee Tooooo!

Posted by: helpermonkey

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marianoz

I called around to three or four of my local Cingular stores and was given roughly the same answer. One said that it would definetely be out within the next 90 days, another one said not before September 1st, another one said that anytime between now and September, and almost all said that the phone will be available on the web before they get it in the stores.

This is an improvement from when I called around last week, where they didn't even know what the 3125 was and keep on correcting me and telling me that I was talking abou the "2125". Still, it would be nice if it is available in August rather than in September.

.

The store who said not before the 1st of Sept. is probably closes to right, if there are no more delays in release do to field trials (which there always could be).

Posted by: Shukoroshi

Pardon my ignorance. I saw posted earlier that the 3120 will be avail via special order and FANs. What does FAN exactly stand for? Reason being is that I am looking into purchasing the non-camera version of the 3125.

Posted by: Marianoz

Quote:

Originally Posted by helpermonkey

The store who said not before the 1st of Sept. is probably closes to right, if there are no more delays in release do to field trials (which there always could be).

Helpermonkey:

Do you know if that date of "not before September 1st" would apply to online only? Or to the stores?

Posted by: Marianoz

Just noticed that in the main Cingular page they are advertising the Cingular 2125 for $49.99 (I have actually seen that price for a few days now). It says that the offer ends Aug. 21. Last time I saw something like that was when Cingular was getting rid of their inventory of SMT 5600 smartphones for $27 in order to start selling the 2125. So I guess they want to offload as many of their 2125 in order to start selling the 3125. That is actually a very sweet price for the 2125!

Posted by: TruBlu01

Yeah, I noticed that also. 50 bucks for that phone IS A DEAL! I think I read if you install the QTEK rom and then the Cingular one, the phone has WiFi.

Posted by: Shukoroshi

Quote:

Originally Posted by TruBlu01

Yeah, I noticed that also. 50 bucks for that phone IS A DEAL! I think I read if you install the QTEK rom and then the Cingular one, the phone has WiFi.

really? Is there anyway that you can verify this?

Posted by: Marianoz

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shukoroshi

really? Is there anyway that you can verify this?

There have been multiple threads, including one I started myself about this phone having Wifi dissabled by Cingular. A few people were able to prove that this rumor is false, as the phone lacks the Wifi hardware. The T-Mobile version, I think called SDA, does have the hardware for Wifi, but not the Cingular version.

Posted by: TruBlu01

I just did some research over on modaco, I think it works on the TMobile SDA. my bad.

Posted by: helpermonkey

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marianoz

Helpermonkey:

Do you know if that date of "not before September 1st" would apply to online only? Or to the stores?

My understanding is that the device should finish testing in about 2 weeks, if the date is not pushed back, that would mean early sept I would think before it is out. Make what you want of how fast it can be sold, I wouldn't really know. Once again the timeframe I gave is the current target, not a date set in stone, it could easily slip, or finish.

Posted by: Michael95GT

Quote:

It is for me since I am on a legacy data plan (Unlimited MEdia Net, 1,500 Text Messages and 200 MMS) for $19.99 a month. If I 'renew' they have told me they will take me off that plan...

As long as you don't change plans, you WILL NOT lose you "GOOD" MediaWorks plan, just by renewing your contract. I did it earlier this year.

Posted by: N7TND

Hum.....I may give it a try then when the Treo '750' hits. Did you try this at a local store or online?

Posted by: Marianoz

Quote:

Originally Posted by helpermonkey

Thanks for the info...one thing is for sure, we are on the last stretch then. So I guess with luck we will be picking our 3125's up right after Labor Day!

Posted by: LoFo

Would anyone know what features have been crippled in the Cingular version of the 8500?

I'm specifically concerned about quad-band and voice dialling. But it would be nice to know of any other missing features as well.

Thanks

Posted by: ACHI

I certainly thought this would be out before the v3i, but maybe not.

Posted by: Marianoz

Quote:

Originally Posted by ACHI

I certainly thought this would be out before the v3i, but maybe not.

I read somewhere today (don't really remember where as I visited many different forums) that Cingular wants to launch the V3i before the 3125, as they don't want to have two music phones competing with each other.

According to what I read, Cingular's priority would be to first sell as many V3is as they possibly can before launching the 3125 -- if they don't meet their target of V3i sales for a given pre-established period, then they will further delay the 3125. Supposedly Cingular purchased more V3is than 3125s and are interested in selling more of the first.

Again, I am only relaying something that I read in a different forum, I really hope that it is not true -- even though it kind of makes sense.

Posted by: ACHI

It makes sense not to put up two music phones up against each other, but they seem to be neglecting the fact that:

1) The 3125 is a smartphone and has a relatively small market compared to a standard phone.

2) You can automatically assume that the V3i will outsell the 3125, based primarily on the popularity of the RAZR line.

With that said, whether Cingular releases the V3i first or not, it really won't matter. They should be no less than a month apart, anyway, so before you know it, both will be on the shelves.

I do hope, however, that the 3125 can ensure a successful line of future WM phones. If there is any phone out there to promote WM and boost it's popularity, the 3125 is the perfect candidate.

Many, like myself, are turned off from WM phones because of size. You can't say the same about this one however. Besides little hickups here and there, the phone is damn near perfect.

Posted by: Michael95GT

Quote:

According to what I read, Cingular's priority would be to first sell as many V3is as they possibly can before launching the 3125 -- if they don't meet their target of V3i sales for a given pre-established period, then they will further delay the 3125. Supposedly Cingular purchased more V3is than 3125s and are interested in selling more of the f

That could possibly be true, because from what has been posted; pricewise after rebates, etc the 3125 will actually be cheaper than the V3i!!

Posted by: Marianoz

Quote:

Originally Posted by ACHI

It makes sense not to put up two music phones up against each other, but they seem to be neglecting the fact that:

1) The 3125 is a smartphone and has a relatively small market compared to a standard phone.

2) You can automatically assume that the V3i will outsell the 3125, based primarily on the popularity of the RAZR line.

With that said, whether Cingular releases the V3i first or not, it really won't matter. They should be no less than a month apart, anyway, so before you know it, both will be on the shelves.

I do hope, however, that the 3125 can ensure a successful line of future WM phones. If there is any phone out there to promote WM and boost it's popularity, the 3125 is the perfect candidate.

Many, like myself, are turned off from WM phones because of size. You can't say the same about this one however. Besides little hickups here and there, the phone is damn near perfect.

I agree with you, I love my K-Jam as a PDA....but it is not a convenient phone. Smartphones are in my opinion the best compromise between PDA functionality and a real usuable phone. As for V3i vs 3125, I read someone else's post. It does make sense, but it could have just been someone's thoughts and not insider's knowledge.

Posted by: ACHI

I wonder when we'll get a flip phone with touch screen capabilities? That would be sweet.

I should be a hardware engineer.

Posted by: Marianoz

Quote:

Originally Posted by ACHI

I wonder when we'll get a flip phone with touch screen capabilities? That would be sweet.

I should be a hardware engineer.

The closer we ever got to that was with the MPx (a.k.a. MPx300), that unit only saw a very limited launch in Asia before Motorola completely pulled the plug. There are still some floating around, I believe you can still find them on EBAY. As for plans of coming up with a new one...I have not heard anything.

Posted by: VerizonGuy1

so do we have any updates on the release date for the 3125? i've never really considered the smartphone OS before as i've always been a pocket pc person (i'm on my 2nd ipaq now, neither were phones though) but i'm seriously considering this phone.

Posted by: iamthedudeman

So am I. If anyone has a update that would be appreciated. Also, are most okay with not having 3g and only EDGE. I don't care that much for videoclips on my CU500 and 3g right now is not that important and I would probably use this phone to sync data with my PDA and my Laptop for business purposes. What do you guys think that already have 3g on getting this phone. Thoughts?