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V3 i,c,x,m physical differences?
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Posted by: scorpio333

I've got a V3m and I'm looking around for either a full housing replacement or a snap-on set. Where can I find contrasts/comparisons on the PHYSICAL differences of these models. From what I can gather the outside top plate around the camera hole varies. Also looks like some models use the same battery cover and some don't.

Are the c and the i identical?

Looking at all these ebay listings is complete nonsense, listers simply put V3 in the description. I'm sure many people got burned by this since it's confusing.

Posted by: Cory949

To answer your question, no. The c and i are different phones.

The V, V3c and V3m are of the same design generation. Physical size measurements are (virtually) identical (There is some "rounding" of the thickness in the specs). While the V3c and V3m use the same doors and batteries, Im not certain if they are interchangeable with the V3. A quick trip to BestBuy would answer that.

The specs show the V3c and V3m are 1/2mm thicker than the original V3 which, I believe is due to the stamped bezel around the camera lens.

The V3i series use a longer battery door (almost 1/2") for access to the TransFlash card, and therefore a shorter antenna cover. The screw holes for mounting the covers to the frames are identical for both series.

The location of the external LCD is about 3/8" lower on the V3i than on the V3. If you put a V3i face on a V3, you would not be able to see the top 1/2 of the display. The square that is left unpainted on the back of the plastic bezel (so you can see the display) does not line up, and the LCD location cannot be changed. If you were REALLY good, you could flat-buff the black paint off of the back of the plastic bezel, locate a square of tape the same size as the display in the correct position and respray in black. Buying a V3i is easier... Hope this helps.

RAZR

V3 Original - STANDARD FRAME
Slim Li Ion (740mAh) SNN5777A - Battery
Battery door - SHN8739A
95g 98mm x 53 mm x 13.9 (13.72)mm

V3c Original - STANDARD FRAME
Small raised bezel or “Bump” around lens (Protection? Product Distinction?)
Slim Li Ion (740mAh) SNN5777A - Battery
Battery Door - SHN9781A
99g 98mm x 53 mm x 14.5mm

V3m Original - STANDARD FRAME
Small raised bezel or “Bump” around lens (Protection? Product Distinction?)
Slim Li Ion (740mAh) SNN5777A - Battery
Battery Door - SHN9781A
99g 98mm x 53 mm x 14.5mm

RAZR V3i -

V3i Original - STANDARD FRAME
Longer front bezel, lower mounting point of external LCD
Longer rear battery cover for TransFlash access, shorter antenna cover.
680 mAh Li-Ion BA700 – Battery
100g 98mm x 53 mm x 13.9 (13.72)mm

V3iTunes (V3im)
Original - STANDARD FRAME
Longer front bezel, lower mounting point of external LCD
Longer rear battery cover for TransFlash access, shorter antenna cover.
680 mAh Li-Ion BA700 – Battery
100g 98mm x 53 mm x 13.9 (13.72)mm

Posted by: scorpio333

Cory,

Thanks a ton for that info. I stopped by a kiosk at the mall and was told the v3c faceplates will work on my v3m. It was also pointed out that one of the pieces, i believe the top cover has 3 clips on the i and just 2 for the c and m. This was first time I actually saw the replacements and wasn't too thrilled with the selections and the clip on deals are totally out the equation.

My mission now is to find an all black or all blue housing kit. This looks like a decent deal, but again I'm skeptical it will fit. Were the c/m's even produced in all black or blue?
http://cnn.cn/shop/motorola-razr-co...late-p-627.html

Posted by: Cory949

I have never found housings locally. I order from Denis @ cnn.cn

Posted by: ElusiveElephant

would the keypad from the v3i fit to the v3m/c?

Posted by: Cory949

The keypad would fit, but the V3i has "cut outs" for additional keys such as the center MENU key that the CDMA V3c and V3m do not. There is no problem as the keypad is just a flexible metal fascia.

If you were to press the MENU area on the keypad nothing would happen. There is no corresponding mechanical connection underneath.

I did discover the battery doors are different between the original V3 and the V3c / V3m. The original V3 uses one "tab" centrally located to align the battery door. The V3c / V3m battery door uses two "tabs" that slide into molded slots, so the doors are NOT interchangable.

Posted by: Limegrntaln

Ok first post, ive looked elsewhere. I didnt want to start a new thread with it being my first post and all. Ive been looking at this site all day.

I would like to know the difference in features in the V3 V3i V3C V3M.

I think I have most of it down but I still cant decide what one I want to go with. Im leaning toward the new V3i. I may opt for an unbranded one due to the fact Cingular service/reception sucks in my area. I live about 30 miles west of Phoenix. I have a Tmobile V300 right now and its about time to upgrade service and phones. I have a family plan and my wife and I have the same phones.

Last 2 months Tmobile got me a little flustered so after August 20th contract is up and im moving on. Ive been with them since 1998 (voicestream) I called today to ask when the contract is up and the CSR was worried I was going to cancel right there. I changed my plan a year ago so I was under this new contract. But I had been with Voicestream/TMobile since 1998. He kept asking if I was leaving and kept trying to offer me an "exclusive plan"

So to make a long story short im in the market for a new RAZR please "enlighten" me

Thanks
Gregg

Posted by: Cory949

Easy:
V3c and V3m = Verizon and other CDMA
(Work only in north America and some spotty worldwide connections)
Rather difficult to modify (seem edits, software upgrades)
V3c is essentially the original V3
V3m will allow download of music VCast

V3 and V3i = TMobile, Cingular and other GSM carriers worldwide
(Can roam virtually anywhere on the planet)
Easy to modify, backup, personalize.
V3 has no music storage per se, monaural sound even with stereo headphones.
V3i is a newer technology and different internals than the others, has a better camera, more internal memory, removable TransFlash card (up to 1 Gig tested and working), stereo sound output for DAP or iTunes playback, faster menus and response.

I left Verizon after being with them since 1984! (Pacific Bell, PacBell, Pacific Telesys, AirTouch, Verizon) I don't really know all that much about their service or phones, so I'll leave that response to others.

Posted by: Quiksilver1307

will the Razr V3i faceplates fit my V3c?

http://cnn.cn/shop/motorola-razr-co...late-p-673.html

Posted by: Cory949

"The V, V3c and V3m are of the same design generation."

"The location of the external LCD is about 3/8" lower on the V3i than on the V3. If you put a V3i face on a V3, you would not be able to see the top 1/2 of the display. The square that is left unpainted on the back of the plastic bezel (so you can see the display) does not line up, and the LCD location cannot be changed."

Posted by: Quiksilver1307

thanks for the reply.

so i would need to get a V or V3m faceplate for my V3c?

Thanks-

Posted by: Limegrntaln

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cory949

Easy:
V3c and V3m = Verizon and other CDMA
(Work only in north America and some spotty worldwide connections)
Rather difficult to modify (seem edits, software upgrades)
V3c is essentially the original V3
V3m will allow download of music VCast

V3 and V3i = TMobile, Cingular and other GSM carriers worldwide
(Can roam virtually anywhere on the planet)
Easy to modify, backup, personalize.
V3 has no music storage per se, monaural sound even with stereo headphones.
V3i is a newer technology and different internals than the others, has a better camera, more internal memory, removable TransFlash card (up to 1 Gig tested and working), stereo sound output for DAP or iTunes playback, faster menus and response.

I left Verizon after being with them since 1984! (Pacific Bell, PacBell, Pacific Telesys, AirTouch, Verizon) I don't really know all that much about their service or phones, so I'll leave that response to others.

Sweet, thanks for the breakdown Cory. So all I need to know is basically if I am shopping for a RAZR and I dont care about the carrier. I should be shopping for V3i (and want a GSM carrier) Im already into Tmobile for 8 years they are already GSM so I may as well just switch phones. V3i here I come.

now all I need to do is find someone decent to get one from off Ebay. Cingular service is hit and miss in my neighborhood. Tmobile coverage is great though.

Posted by: Quiksilver1307

anyone know?

so i would need to get a V faceplate for my V3c?

Thanks-

Posted by: Quiksilver1307

pleaseeeee

Posted by: Quiksilver1307

does anyone know?

Posted by: nabeed

Quote:

so i would need to get a V faceplate for my V3c?

enough with the bumps..

what is a V faceplate lol

Posted by: Quiksilver1307

Quote:

Originally Posted by nabeed

enough with the bumps..

what is a V faceplate lol

since there are currently no Faceplates/Housing for the V3c/V3m (verizon's model) would i need to get the Razr V to fit my V3c?

Posted by: solo118

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quiksilver1307

since there are currently no Faceplates/Housing for the V3c/V3m (verizon's model) would i need to get the Razr V to fit my V3c?

try www.cnn.cn they might have a housing for you

Posted by: Quiksilver1307

yea thats where i am planning on getting it but the only problem is that they do not have any for the V3c/V3m so i am still questioning wither the Razr V would fit on mine.

thanks-

Posted by: scorpio333

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quiksilver1307

since there are currently no Faceplates/Housing for the V3c/V3m (verizon's model) would i need to get the Razr V to fit my V3c?

There are faceplates for the V3M and V3C. I saw them at a local mall kiosk. These are the only battery door and front top cover.

I emailed cnn.cn over a week ago about the blue V3 housing and never got a response. I guess that they could care less about my money so I'll wait it out until I can find a complete V3M housing elsewhere.

Nabeed, this should answer your question, take a look:
http://cnn.cn/shop/motorola-razr-c-...7e32cfb5547eb0c

Posted by: sparky672

I'm looking for a new bottom piece like this one here...

Front Bottom Piece

It says - "MOTOROLA RAZR V3 OEM FRONT BOTTOM PIECE
[V3]" without any mention of color. It looks silver in the picture, so if it says V3 OEM, is there only one color it would logically be?

Does anyone know if this item is the same for all V3 RAZRs? I have a Silver V3m from Verizon.

Anyone with experience of this CNN.cn? Can I trust them? - if it says OEM, will I get an item manufactured by the same supplier of the original Motorola parts?

Thanks.

Posted by: sparky672

I'm wondering if CNN.CN is still in business. They haven't responded to my online inquiry nor my email.

Can anyone recommend any other online stores with as wide a selection?

Posted by: Cory949

The battery doors for the V3c and V3m are different than the all other V3's. They have two (2) tabs to hold in the bottom of the battery door. They slide into molded plastic slots on the lower antenna cover on the phone. The tabs are spot welded onto the batter door.

The V3 and V3i have a single spot welded tab on the battery door that fits into that molded plastic antenna cover.

A partial cover including only the door will not work. Visit a Cingular store and take the batter cover off a V3.

Posted by: jasellers300

I know the V3i front faceplate will fit on the V3m but of course there's the problem with the external LCD not lining up and stuff. If I were to buy a V3i external LCD, could I put it on my V3M so the LCD is the correct size and lines up right? Is the v3i LCD compatible with a V3M? If so will the blue M logo light up like it does on the v3i? thanks