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Originally Posted by walkguru
i wish that i knew that. we were supossed to get it last year. so tulsa got it instead.
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Originally Posted by brianm0520
Is everywhere supposed to eventually have 3G? If so when do u think this will be completed?
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Originally Posted by exchguy
Given their current 'pace' of rapid deployment to the rest of the top 20 markets like Denver, Minneapolis, Pittsburgh and a decent deployment to L.A., i'd say completion somewhere between when hell freezes over and when pigs fly.
I don't think there has been a single 3G announcement in 2007 yet, IIRC. |
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Originally Posted by mferni
North Jersey, testing? On my 8525 just got 3G icon at about 5:00pm. Did a b/w test and it shows up as 200k or around there, so not quite "full" 3G speeds I am used to. Maybe they are just starting to test it?
Location: Wayne, NJ 07470 |
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Originally Posted by cangular
Does anybody know when western Ma (springfield area) will be turned on? I called cingular yesterday and the woman had no info to offer me...We are usually the last spot in Ma. Its not fair Boston has had it forever now...
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Originally Posted by walkguru
Wirelessly posted (Walkguru's: MOT-RAZRV3xx/96.71.95R BER2.2 Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; 11063081) Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 Opera 8.00 [en] UP.Link/6.3.1.17.0)
i was at a cor store today. oct for okc. darn. |
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Originally Posted by nwok2u
What is the holdup for OKC
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Originally Posted by mferni
North Jersey, testing? On my 8525 just got 3G icon at about 5:00pm. Did a b/w test and it shows up as 200k or around there, so not quite "full" 3G speeds I am used to. Maybe they are just starting to test it?
Location: Wayne, NJ 07470 |
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Originally Posted by havemusic
Cor store told me end of may in okc
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Originally Posted by walkguru
i wish that i knew that. we were supossed to get it last year. so tulsa got it instead.
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Originally Posted by mmaximus
Any word on Denver? Or are we still in the dark?
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Originally Posted by ImmerStark
it's called spectrum shortage, tulsa has plenty 55MHz+, okc not so much.
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Originally Posted by formercanuck
Many areas have had new(er) gear installed over the past couple of years, and are still waiting for 3G. They installed new panels on almost all the sites around here over a year ago... but that was probably part of the Los Angeles $1B upgrade.
Looks like maps now show April 30... but no change in the Los Angeles area. I'll be touring Colorado next week from Denver to Grand Junction to Colorado Springs |
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Originally Posted by ilvla2
I've been that route, the Denver to Grand Junction UP RR (former DRGW) line on Amtrak's California Zephyr, it's a beautiful trip!
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Originally Posted by ilvla2
Cool, actually I've taken it from Chicago all the way to Oakland, it's an awesome trip!
http://www.amtrak.com/servlet/Conte...321209&ssid=133 |
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Originally Posted by ilvla2
It sounds like you've traveled on the train as much as I have! I've been on the San Joaquin's (Martinez to Bakersfield), the San Diegan's/Pacific Surfliner's (L.A. to San Diego) and the Capitol's (Sacramento to Oakland), all tons of times. Long Distance, I've done the Coast Starlight (L.A. to SJ, Sac and Portland), Empire Builder (Portland to Chicago), Broadway Limited (Chicago to Philly), Metroliner's/Acela (Philly to DC), Cardinal (D.C. to Chicago), Pioneer (Salt Lake City to Pocatello, and Pocatello to Portland) and California Zephyr (Chicago to Sacramento). We took a trip a few summers back from Sacramento to D.C., AWESOME!
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Originally Posted by jeffmplsmn
Twice this week on WCCO radio I heard a commercial stating that Cingular now has 3G in the Twin Cities. They didn't say coming soon, but that it was here. Good to know that some people are starting to see signs of it.
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Originally Posted by Daynja
I called cingular today and asked about 3G in minneapolis/st paul. After a while of searching, the guy asked where st paul was and if it was a small town that might be hard to find on the map.......
...anyway...then he said that area wasn't on his list of areas that will be getting 3G. I've heard minneapolis/st paul was supposed to get G3 in 2006, and now this. So I guess I can't believe anyone. |
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Originally Posted by Daynja
I called cingular today and asked about 3G in minneapolis/st paul. After a while of searching, the guy asked where st paul was and if it was a small town that might be hard to find on the map.......
...anyway...then he said that area wasn't on his list of areas that will be getting 3G. I've heard minneapolis/st paul was supposed to get G3 in 2006, and now this. So I guess I can't believe anyone. |
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Originally Posted by rpmura
Minneapolis, 10/15/07, give or take. St Paul, ??
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Originally Posted by ttjohns
October? I was told the end of May...
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Originally Posted by superlftman
Someone mentioned previously in this thread that June was the date slated for MPLS/St.Paul. I guess I will believe it when I see it.
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Originally Posted by bobolito
I remember they promised the top 100 markets by the end of '06.
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Originally Posted by ceric20
Isent there a rail buff web site you guys can chat on? this is a 3G topic not about the railroads....
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Oh, it's I'SNT not Isent, and yes, we know what the topic is about 
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Originally Posted by ilvla2
It sounds like you've traveled on the train as much as I have! I've been on the San Joaquin's (Martinez to Bakersfield), the San Diegan's/Pacific Surfliner's (L.A. to San Diego) and the Capitol's (Sacramento to Oakland), all tons of times. Long Distance, I've done the Coast Starlight (L.A. to SJ, Sac and Portland), Empire Builder (Portland to Chicago), Broadway Limited (Chicago to Philly), Metroliner's/Acela (Philly to DC), Cardinal (D.C. to Chicago), Pioneer (Salt Lake City to Pocatello, and Pocatello to Portland) and California Zephyr (Chicago to Sacramento). We took a trip a few summers back from Sacramento to D.C., AWESOME!
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Originally Posted by cmc0
I've been thinking of using Amtrak more for long distance trips (only my NY-Philly-DC commutes) but when I go to Amtrak.com, ticket prices are more expensive that a flight on Southwest. How come? Or is there any discounts availble on Amtrak?
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Originally Posted by petard
I was talking to a CS and they said it should be up pretty much everywhere by the end of the year... yeah right.
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Originally Posted by Monadi
I'm still waiting for a full 3G deployment here in the San Fernando Valley, CA. I haven't heard of any recent updates around here.
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Originally Posted by petard
3 weeks to june!
Any new 3G sightings in the Twin Cities? |
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Originally Posted by walkguru
okc must be in the bottum 100.
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Originally Posted by DRC72
Nothing yet walk???????
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Originally Posted by ilvla2
Hey AT&T, finish rolling 3G out to Northern California, just covering Sacramento and SF isn't cutting it
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Originally Posted by formercanuck
Well, Davis, Vacaville, Fairfield and Napa are covered...
You could be down in So-Cal, and not have 3G service in Los Angeles proper. |
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Originally Posted by formercanuck
Well, Davis, Vacaville, Fairfield and Napa are covered...
You could be down in So-Cal, and not have 3G service in Los Angeles proper. |
They are going to, and soon I believe, but I can't get any sort of rough idea from them.
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Originally Posted by ilvla2
Or here, and be waiting for Edge to deploy their 3G
They are going to, and soon I believe, but I can't get any sort of rough idea from them.That's good those areas are covered, but it still pales to Verizon's 3G rollout, they have it in Petaluma, Santa Rosa, Healdsburg, Redding, Chico, Marysville, Yuba City and in between too, the only time I see 3G with AT&T is when I'm in Sac (every so often) or SF (very rarely). Verizon will have 3G here in Mendocino and Lake Counties by the end of the year. I want actual, physical coverage, not just tiny slices of cities |
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Originally Posted by ahduke99
charleston, sc is still out of the 3G network. some areas of downtown on the peninsula lack EDGE. i wish they'd update the network around here.
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Originally Posted by exchguy
I'd imagine as soon as this application has been accepted, then we will be closer to having UMTS light up in these markets.
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§ 73.3540 Application for voluntary assignment or transfer of control. (a) Prior consent of the FCC must be obtained for a voluntary assignment or transfer of control. (b) Application should be filed with the FCC at least 45 days prior to the contemplated effective date of assignment or transfer of control. |
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Originally Posted by out_by_50
This piece of regulation seems to indicate
that the transfer takes 45 days +/- to get approved. |
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Originally Posted by exchguy
The app to transfer control of the spectrum was just submitted on 5/11, so they are waiting on the FCC to approve the swap from Edge Wireless who owns the origional C block purchased out of Auction 58.
This is a link to the application that Cingular/ATT has submitted to the FCC to transfer control of those licenses to their control: http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/App...466#attachments Be sure to contact your local FCC commission to give them your support to make this swap happen! |
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Originally Posted by WiWavelength
Oh yeah, nothing warms my heart more than when a filthy rich national carrier, such as Cingular, colludes w/ a small accomplice, such as Edge Wireless, to win closed bidding PCS 1900 MHz spectrum, then hoodwinks the FCC a couple of years down the road by acquiring said spectrum from the accomplice. Shame on Cingular, shame on Edge, which never had any intention of constructing anything more than unusable license saving footprint in Denver, Pittsburgh, or the Twin Cities, et al. That should have been patently obvious. All affected markets are well outside Edge's Pacific Northwest home territory. Those licenses were always going to end up in Cingular's gluttonous maw. This was nothing but an end around FCC rules. Machiavelli, I am sure, would be proud.
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Originally Posted by kevink1
According to the Cingular coverage map, Torrance California doesn't have 3G yet. Does this match reality?
May be spending a few days in Torrance next week in a hotel that charges over $10/day for WiFi, so I'll probably be using my phone again. |
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Originally Posted by kevink1
Guess it doesn't matter. The hotel I was going in doesn't give us a discount anymore, so I'll be in another hotel that provides complimentory wifi for the $110/day rate
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Originally Posted by kevink1
Low end hotels either don't have wifi, or it seems to be free. It is the pricier hotels that seem to think they can surcharge it. The Marriot in Torrence. Casinos in Vegas.
When I travel for work, since we normally qualify for government rates, it seems we stay in the nicer hotels when possible. |
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Originally Posted by formercanuck
Usually, when I corp travel it, all the 'corp' hotels typically have WiFi for free (Residence inn by Marriot or the Marriot are typically the better ones for WiFi).
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Originally Posted by formercanuck
Usually, when I corp travel it, all the 'corp' hotels typically have WiFi for free (Residence inn by Marriot or the Marriot are typically the better ones for WiFi).
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Originally Posted by ilvla2
Holiday Inn Express is great too, they have free WiFi in pretty much all of their hotels, Clarion is great as well as is Best Western. Even a lot of the non-chain hotels have free WiFi around this area now, or free DSL.
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Originally Posted by jkb246
Its funny NJ and the rest of NYC one of the richest areas in the Country will barely have 3G minus 2 cities by the end of the year. What are they doing
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Originally Posted by smokeyb111
There seems to be 3G in Pleasantville NJ now as well. Very spotty though.
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Originally Posted by simbill
second that
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Originally Posted by PhillipD76
How many of you out there live in areas where Verizon and even Sprint both have their VCast and PowerVision up respectively but Cingular 3G is no where in sight?
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Originally Posted by PhillipD76
How many of you out there live in areas where Verizon and even Sprint both have their VCast and PowerVision up respectively but Cingular 3G is no where in sight?
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Out of the three carriers here, Verizon, US Cellular and Edge Wireless (AT&T Affiliate), only Verizon promises "by the end of the year", I can't get any info on a schedule out of USCC or Edge (who both are planning to roll out 3G here).|
Originally Posted by calancaster
I just got a Treo 750 less than 2 weeks ago and while I love the device itself, I am disappointed in AT&T's coverage. At my home just a couple of blocks west of Pico & Fairfax, 3G is really sporadic. For instance, I'll have 3-4 bars of EDGE and then it will switch to 1 bar of UMTS. it constantly does this. If I'm close enough to a cell site to get a pretty decent EDGE signal, why wouldn't I get a UMTS signal with equivalent strenghth? Odd?!?!? Another thing, everyday during my commute I drive by an AT&T Building,(I think it's a switching station) at the corner of Melrose and Crescent Heights and I can see the cellular attennaes on the building and I STILL only get ONE bar of UMTS signal strength and that is right under their attennae. What's up with that? So far I have found only one area in LA with consistent UMTS coverage and that is in Universal City where I work. Everyplace else within a 5-7 mile radius of my home is really spotty. If AT&T doesn't improve soon, I may just go back to T-Mobile and wait for them to start rolling out their 3G later this year.
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Originally Posted by PhillipD76
How many of you out there live in areas where Verizon and even Sprint both have their VCast and PowerVision up respectively but Cingular 3G is no where in sight?
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Originally Posted by ScruffyGuy
Anyone know when Pittsburgh PA will get 3G? I've only had a 3G phone for a year.
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Originally Posted by formercanuck
I do... however, it is in sight, roughtly 5-10 miles south, into the southern half of the San Fernando Valley.
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. Good speed too, had 896kbs on dslreports 
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Originally Posted by 6Spd Menace
Had 3G in the North East SFV for about an hour last night, Then POOF gone
. Good speed too, had 896kbs on dslreports . |
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Originally Posted by 6Spd Menace
Had 3G in the North East SFV for about an hour last night, Then POOF gone
. Good speed too, had 896kbs on dslreports . |
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Originally Posted by colione
That means they are testing it. You should have access to it in the not to distant future.
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Originally Posted by formercanuck
I've had that kind of access in Sylmar area since December... the valley hasn't really expanded coverage since last year. They can't really consider Los Angeles live until there's coverage in more than just I-5 (Burbank/Glendale/Studio City/Encino/Sherman Oaks). Sylmar is a bit up on the hill, as has a bit of a clear line of site to far away sites.
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. Got down to Rinaldi and Sepulveda and was on Edge 
. BTW i'm in Mission Hills.
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Originally Posted by exchguy
See: http://www.howardforums.com/showpos...&postcount=1861
Denver, Minneapolis, and Pittsburgh are all in the same boat. No 3G until the 1900Mhz spectrum transfer has been approved. Cingular doesn't have the spectrum rights to turn on UMTS until they get these transfers approved. You can thank the GSM->UMTS migration path for this, especially in these markets where Cingular had limited spectrum as it was. From what other posters have said, these transfers can take approximately 45 days to get approved from when they are submitted. Then, assuming time for cingular to actually turn it on, etc. |
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Originally Posted by rpmura
That site you see at Melrose and Crescent Hts is a T-mobile site, even though it's an AT&T building. It's a holdover from before the buyout of att wireless. I think the closest cells there are on the corner of Melrose and Fairfax, and then again at Melrose and LaCienega.
Phase 2 launch is set for July. If you can wail til then, maybe the 3G service will improve for you. There will also be a phase 3 and 4, but phase 2 is the biggest. |
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Originally Posted by rpmura
That site you see at Melrose and Crescent Hts is a T-mobile site, even though it's an AT&T building. It's a holdover from before the buyout of att wireless. I think the closest cells there are on the corner of Melrose and Fairfax, and then again at Melrose and LaCienega.
Phase 2 launch is set for July. If you can wail til then, maybe the 3G service will improve for you. There will also be a phase 3 and 4, but phase 2 is the biggest. |
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Originally Posted by calancaster
Thanks for info. I will hold out until July. By the way I live off Pico between Fairfax and Crescent Heights. I only get 1 to 2 bars and sometimes 3 bars in my house. Do you happen to know the closest cell site covering that area and will Phase 2 improve coverage for that area?
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Originally Posted by bigb252
Does anyone know when it will reach the Virgin Islands in the caribbean? We're really close to Puerto Rico, and if you call Cingular, they start speaking Spanish.
I know it won't be anytime soon but does anyone have a clue of when it might reach down here? |
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Originally Posted by bigb252
Does anyone know when it will reach the Virgin Islands in the caribbean? We're really close to Puerto Rico, and if you call Cingular, they start speaking Spanish.
I know it won't be anytime soon but does anyone have a clue of when it might reach down here? |
But considering coverage in LA is spotty, north of San Francisco is almost non-existent, and nothing in Denver... I just don't see USVI happening in the near future.
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Originally Posted by Radiationman
Sorry, I know what the suspense is like, truly I do. But considering coverage in LA is spotty, north of San Francisco is almost non-existent, and nothing in Denver... I just don't see USVI happening in the near future. |
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Originally Posted by ilvla2
GSM service is not "almost non-existent" north of San Francisco, I live 115 miles north of SF (in Redwood Valley, about 8 miles north of Ukiah here in Mendocino County) and have excellent service via their affiliate, Edge Wireless. Yes, we have our share of dead spots (mainly in a few spots between Fort Bragg going north and south on 1, a few spots between Laytonville and Eureka on 101, and in a few spots between Potter Valley and Williams on 20). You need to re-examine your sources on how things are up here in Northerwestern California
Edit-Edge Wireless will be rolling out 3G soon, so that will be good too |
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Originally Posted by ScruffyGuy
What really sucks is Cingular selling 3G phones and pushing 3G when they know they won't have it in these areas for a long time. I understand they want to have the 3G phones in place when they have 3G service, but this is ********. I have never met a phone company like Cingular who screws people like they do. I can see AT&T falling in the same tracks as Cingular.
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Originally Posted by petard
I dont know if everyone will have 3G.
It is taking forever for us (twin cities, MN) to get 3G and we are the 14th largest market! |
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Originally Posted by Gilitar
Anyone know when Mobile, AL will have 3G? We were supposed to get it back in January/February but still nothing.
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Originally Posted by ilvla2
DOH I just realized that, my bad
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Originally Posted by tendura
Springfield, MO?
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Originally Posted by Joel954
It's almost June and we still don't have it. What happened to Q1?
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Originally Posted by Shadowplay
For what it's worth, I just got off the phone with my AT&T/Cingular business rep and she said they are being told internally that Denver will be switched on in October of this year (2007). Supposedly it will be the whole state (within reason of course) and all switch on at the same time.
She kept going on about how they have had to wait until the numbers add up to justify switching to 3G because so many people are still on the older GSM... uhm... yeah maybe if 3G was actually available then more people would, ya know, buy 3G devices! |
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Originally Posted by telarium
Springfield, MO is coming soon. Equip and backhaul are in place. Tests are going on in Rogersville currently for cartographic, landmass RF. Some sort of regulatory approval is holding up the works in Jeff City.
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Originally Posted by PhillipD76
How about Springfield, MA
I have heard from someone that their Cingular Rep said rumour is end of June. Who knows if they know what they are talking about. Although we have had some wierd stuff happening with towers around here like less service in areas where we would normally and then back sometimes. |
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Originally Posted by PhillipD76
How about Springfield, MA
I have heard from someone that their Cingular Rep said rumour is end of June. Who knows if they know what they are talking about. Although we have had some wierd stuff happening with towers around here like less service in areas where we would normally and then back sometimes. |
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Originally Posted by DRC72
I thought Springfeild had 3G... 3G launched in Hartford late last year.
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Originally Posted by PhillipD76
Doesn't seem so yet. Well at least the map has not been updated with it, and it was last updated in April. I have no way to really tell since i dont have a 3G handy. I have been wanting to upgrade but have been waiting.
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Originally Posted by andlastly
I asked a cust rep on the cing site. They said, anytime you want to know something about 3G in your area the best thing to do is call your nearest cing store and ask them. Or go in and ask. They would know.
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Originally Posted by DRC72
You'll have to come down the I91 corridor if you want 3G right now....
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Originally Posted by Radiationman
Maybe out by you, because out here they don't have a clue. The last date they had was March '07 for my area - and we don't have 3G. Last time I was in the store about a month and half ago, the response I got was "your guess is as good as ours..."
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Originally Posted by PhillipD76
What area are you in?
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Originally Posted by ilvla2
Hey fellow Northcoaster! I'm in Redwood Valley, about 8 miles north of Ukiah up here in Mendocino County
Edit-I'm exactly 68 miles north of Santa Rosa |
I only use the Santa Rosa corp store and not the Petaluma one. Petaluma refused to sell me two phones when I told them I wanted to be post-paid and not on contract and was willing to pay full price for the phones.
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Originally Posted by Radiationman
Actually I'm a bit further south in Petaluma,
I only use the Santa Rosa corp store and not the Petaluma one. Petaluma refused to sell me two phones when I told them I wanted to be post-paid and not on contract and was willing to pay full price for the phones.Santa Rosa on the other hand, sold me phones, kept me post-paid - and still got me rebates on the phones (I didn't even ask for them...) BTW what's somebody doing working for Amtrak and living up there? There's no rail service up there... is there? |
This time, they have REAL money (including 7.5 million released to them by the state last month, and 1.5 million in March) and REAL support, and REAL railroader's running the show The head of the NWP RR Co. got the Caltrain service started in the Bay Area in the mid 80's, when they took over the Peninsula Commute from the SP RR. Work has already started on the South end arond your area. Also, the SMART trains bond got passed (By a HUGE majority I might add), those will start up between Cloverdale and Larkspur in 2009. Amtrak serves us, by thru-way busses that connect with the Capitol's and San Joaquin's at Martinez.|
Originally Posted by bfbchief
Is 3G in CT on 1900? The minute I walk into a building I almost always lose 3G and go back to Edge.
I work in New Britain and this happens and I have noticed it happens at places inside Mohegan Sun. |
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Originally Posted by shtekler
3G in CT is verey spoty it's good close to I91 line
and in Mohegan Sun consicreat on the gambeling,you can't hear the phone anyway |
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Originally Posted by shtekler
3G in CT is verey spoty it's good close to I91 line
and in Mohegan Sun consicreat on the gambeling,you can't hear the phone anyway |
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Originally Posted by colione
Alot of cities are launching at 1900 MHz only. Once Spectrum is freed up from TDMA and other uses 850 will be added.
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Originally Posted by bfbchief
You are not kidding it is spoty...I am not sure how it is towards NY...but like I said in New Britain or even Newington when I walk into a building back to edge...driving home in my car in Hartford it is great...
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Originally Posted by DRC72
From what I hear it's strickly 1900MHz at this point.... I'm hoping they get some 3G on the 850MHz band eventually.
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Originally Posted by bfbchief
Hopefully they will get on 850MHz soon and roll it out to the rest of the state of CT. Not sure why it is taking so long...but with things like video calling coming very soon...you would think they get going.
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Originally Posted by bfbchief
You are not kidding it is spoty...I am not sure how it is towards NY...but like I said in New Britain or even Newington when I walk into a building back to edge...driving home in my car in Hartford it is great...
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Originally Posted by Wrangler3383
On the coast on 95 the coverage is awesome from Guilford all the way to NY. The coverage then picks up again in New London. Dont know why they decided to leave a 20 mile gap, kind of irritating. However I live next to the Mohegan Sun and catch 2 bars of 3G signal in my back yard, and thats from accross the river! Your actually having issues keeping 3G signal in the casino? As soon as I cross onto the reservation I have full 3G service. I havn't had an issue with coverage on reservation since they first went live with it last year. I just want them to cover the rest of 95 and 395 in CT. Then I'll be happy.
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Originally Posted by Wrangler3383
Its possible that the 1900 only is the issue. One would think that with an area as high trafic as Mohegan Sun, they MIGHT want to make the network appear to be stable.
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