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Originally Posted by lax2tlv
Well 6pm Fri still great hand-down UMTS reception, still drops as soon as data transmission ceases, still no ability to register the phone to a UMTS tower...
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Originally Posted by rpmura
Since nobody posted anything, maybe nothing happened today. So what else is new, huh?
It gets to where I don't even care anymore. The excitement wears off and by the time anything happens, I'm like "oh that's nice". |
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Originally Posted by rpmura
Supposed to be a partial launch today, 7/13 in the L.A. area. Don't know exactly where. It was supposed to be 6/29, but the iPhone launch moved it out to 7/13.
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Originally Posted by lax2tlv
Well 6pm Fri still great hand-down UMTS reception, still drops as soon as data transmission ceases, still no ability to register the phone to a UMTS tower...
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| They are already testing it in various markets, and plan on rolling it out across their markets within the next year, why is a big, rich company like AT&T being outdone by their smaller affiliate? |
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Originally Posted by formercanuck
How so ? AT&T (AT&T Wireless actually) has had 3G for a couple of years in many areas. Edge Wireless probably has as many sites total as Los Angeles. |
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Originally Posted by buffsrule76
any idea when the twin cities metro area is getting 3G?? why ATT started with a rural area like Rochester Minnesota is beyond me
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Originally Posted by neilson
I explained it a couple of pages back.
The old AT&T Wireless had 850 spectrum down there which was ample enough to allow for the new at&t/Cingular to launch 3G on 1900. The Twin Cities have always been spectrum starved for AT&T Wireless/Cingular/at&t. Pending the transfer of extra 1900 spectrum from Edge Wireless, at&t will have enough Mhz of 1900 available to launch 3G without completely clogging the network. |
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Originally Posted by formercanuck
Not sure, however, I suspect that deploying in some cities are not quite as easy as others.
Today, on my trip south into the San Fernando Valley / Fry's Woodland Hills, I had 3G from Valencia down to Northridge (between Nordhoff and Roscoe), and regained it for a bit in Van Nuys just to lose 3G completely before hitting 101, and having no 3G service from Burbank Blvd./405 to 101/Canoga Park (aka Frys). In the past I've had weak service along parts of 101 from the 405 to as far as Winnetka, and when service originally first went live, I had 3G service at Victory/Canoga, and once or twice in Frys itself. Its sad to see that its been +6 months before service has changed in this area, especially with the amount of traffic on 101 towards Ventura. |
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Originally Posted by lax2tlv
Im on the 405 on the way back from san diego and let me tell u, the southern-most coastline of cali is COVERED with 3G! nothing under -90dbm anywhere from north of Carlsbad to south of downtown sd... amazing! now when is the valley gonna join the 21st century??
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Originally Posted by formercanuck
Everyone knows that the San Fernando Valley is the red headed stepchild of Los Angeles
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Now, if you want a REAL Valley, the San Gabriel Valley is the one, I'm partial to Covina 
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Originally Posted by ilvla2
San Fernando Valley, bwah, why don't they just break off from L.A., so they can complaining and be done with it?
Now, if you want a REAL Valley, the San Gabriel Valley is the one, I'm partial to Covina As to Red Headed Stephchildren, I know about that, Mendocino and Lake Counties aka RSA 344 are Verizon's Red Headed StepCounties |
Yep, the San Gabriel Valley, the best valley in SoCal, a little SoCal geography lesson-
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Originally Posted by ilvla2
Calm down, I was just joking with Canuck
Yep, the San Gabriel Valley, the best valley in SoCal, a little SoCal geography lesson-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Gabriel_Valley It's all good though, I just happen to like the SGV, it's my home after all |
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Originally Posted by ilvla2
San Fernando Valley, bwah, why don't they just break off from L.A., so they can complaining and be done with it?
Now, if you want a REAL Valley, the San Gabriel Valley is the one, I'm partial to Covina As to Red Headed Stephchildren, I know about that, Mendocino and Lake Counties aka RSA 344 are Verizon's Red Headed StepCounties |
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Originally Posted by formercanuck
I always considered the 'San Gabriel Valley' (or at least what's in Wiki) to be part of the Los Angeles basin. The valley isn't all that distinct. From what I see on Google Earth, I'd consider the San Gabriel Valley the area from Pasadena to San Bernardino as SGV. That aside, I _really_ don't care much for many parts of the SFV or SGV. Arcadia, La Canada would be some of the nicer parts of SGV. I wish the SFV would break from Los Angeles... or at least Los Angeles Unified School district - the most corrupt, money wasting school district in the country.
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They are alll close to the mountains, which I like.|
Originally Posted by grafik2
is there any kind of map or guide that has the different areas that is supposed to get 3g and when?
or is protocol just to toss your city up on this thread and hope someone knows? seems like att should be informing people of where/when if they are allowed to claim 3g speeds on ads albany, ny?? (upstate ny) |
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Originally Posted by clauretano
If albany gets it before rochester I'll cry. I'm already tortured by the fact that little old syracuse got verizon fios before rochester :P
why ignore the 3rd largest city in the state? (after nyc (of course) and buffalo (which is barely larger, and much dirtier lol)) 1,039,000 > 93000 :P |
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Originally Posted by eliminator
Buffalo isn't that bad. It's exactly like every other rust belt city. It has old industrial areas that aren't so nice and lots of housing that is outdated. It also has so great neighborhoods, old and new. I live in the middle of downtown and think Buffalo is above average compared to other cities. Really, it's not so bad here.
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Originally Posted by eliminator
Buffalo isn't that bad. It's exactly like every other rust belt city. It has old industrial areas that aren't so nice and lots of housing that is outdated. It also has so great neighborhoods, old and new. I live in the middle of downtown and think Buffalo is above average compared to other cities. Really, it's not so bad here.
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Originally Posted by formercanuck
I'll admit, its probably safer than many parts of Detroit. Only time I've been in a 'Subway' restaurant where the employees were behind 2" plexiglass similar to what's in a bank. After the employee told me that they've been held up 2x, and a store in each corner of the intersection (4mile/telegraph) has been held up at least once / month, I grabbed my sub, and made tracks for Southfield.
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Originally Posted by danny.boi
Driving through Universal City, CA. today, my v3xx didn't find 3G like it normally does and it remained on EDGE. I powercycled and it didn't do anything.
I drove by the same area around 8pm tonight and still no 3G. It's like they took it down. At&t still has a GPRS only spot for about a 1 mile radius near East Los Angeles just north of the 101 FWY. You would think after all this time, that they'd fill in those areas with EDGE by now? I know it's a poor neighborhood, but come on now..... |
I was at a Dr's appointment Saturday morning at Wilshire & LaCienega; where I normally have 3G (And can watch my MobiTV while I'm waiting) but all I got Saturday morning was Edge. I also experienced EDGE only on Sunday in other places were I had previously gotten 3G. 
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Originally Posted by calancaster
There was definitely something going on with 3G in LA this weekend.
I was at a Dr's appointment Saturday morning at Wilshire & LaCienega; where I normally have 3G (And can watch my MobiTV while I'm waiting) but all I got Saturday morning was Edge. I also experienced EDGE only on Sunday in other places were I had previously gotten 3G. One other thing to note; I seem to be able to pick up at least one, sometimes two bars of 3G inside my home late at night (after 11:00), if only for a few minutes; where normally during the day I get EDGE with 4 bars. Also, if I try to force 3G, I get nothing. I'm keeping my fingers crossed for August 2nd as the LA rollout as previously posted. I just hope they're right and the date doesn't get pushed out again. |
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Originally Posted by formercanuck
I'll admit, its probably safer than many parts of Detroit. Only time I've been in a 'Subway' restaurant where the employees were behind 2" plexiglass similar to what's in a bank..
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Originally Posted by ilvla2
I was in a Jack in the Box like that in East L.A., scary.
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However, I did have EVDO from Verizon in Redding, Red Bluff, Corning, Anderson, Gridley, Live Oak and Yuba City, and in many places between, and it had expanded to include Cottonwood. Geez AT&T, let's go a bit slower here
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Originally Posted by formercanuck
Can't say that I've ever visited East L.A., or South Central either - nothing much there for me to do (most of L.A. has nothing for me to do, actually).
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I love history, and there's a ton in that part of El Pueblo de Nuestra Senora la Reina de los Angeles de Poriuncula aka Los Angeles
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Originally Posted by formercanuck
Can't say that I've ever visited East L.A., or South Central either - nothing much there for me to do (most of L.A. has nothing for me to do, actually).
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Originally Posted by lax2tlv
I feel you on that... lived here for most of my life and historic shmistoric, this city sucks...
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I find it sad when people turn their noses up at history and heritage, without roots a tree will soon die.
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Originally Posted by lax2tlv
I feel you on that... lived here for most of my life and historic shmistoric, this city sucks...
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| Cannot connect on 3g anymore in Oxnard. Contacted CS and was told tower is being worked on. She also told me another tower will be live in Ventura on the 27th. So it looks like the 27th is a recurring date for a few towers. |
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Originally Posted by ilvla2
El Pueblo de Nuestra Senora la Reina de los Angeles de Poriuncula aka Los Angeles
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Originally Posted by petard
The spectrum transfer
http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/App...466#attachments Just had a new thing added to it (Redlight Review Completed) Does anyone know what this means? |
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Originally Posted by philgsm
Cannot connect on 3g anymore in Oxnard. Contacted CS and was told tower is being worked on. She also told me another tower will be live in Ventura on the 27th. So it looks like the 27th is a recurring date for a few towers.
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Originally Posted by Wrangler3383
Depends on if your current sim is 3G capable. What does it look like?
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Originally Posted by Brock2323
Its a 32KB orange and white SIM. Its a few years old.
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Originally Posted by Radiationman
Then you need the new SIM.
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Originally Posted by Brock2323
Yeah, I figured as much. I'll activate the new SIM tomorrow.
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Originally Posted by snoopdarr
Is there any reason someone would WANT to keep an old SIM active?
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Originally Posted by snoopdarr
Is there any reason someone would WANT to keep an old SIM active?
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Originally Posted by petard
It doesn't even have to be in a phone to activate it.
I called from my cellphone using my old sim to activate the new sim, the person said that I would just be disconnected after she activates the new sim and all I have to do is put the new im in the phone and it worked! |
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Originally Posted by snoopdarr
Is there any reason someone would WANT to keep an old SIM active?
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Originally Posted by wierdo
Why waste a SIM that may come in handy sometime in the future. I have spare phones and SIMs scattered around in different cities. If I forget my phone, I stick a spare SIM in a spare phone and activate the spare. Same goes if I lose a phone or it gets stolen. No waiting, no hurried rush to a store. Just call in any time of the day or night and you're in business.
If I activated every SIM they sent me, I'd have had to spend a hundred bucks on SIMs. Instead, I get them for free. Is there a reason why would anyone WANT to waste a SIM? |
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Originally Posted by Bass10
I don't know what that means but I noticed the Application Status is now: M - Consummated
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Originally Posted by Radiationman
Then you need the new SIM.
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Originally Posted by exchguy
I think Consummated means that the transfer is completed. So now we wait for ATT to fire up the radios and do their testing right? Any engineers out there can confirm the transfer?
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Originally Posted by MCFADONNA
Or actualy what will probably happen is they will find out the install was never completed. Just a bunch of guys putting in time for something they didnt do. Not unheard of.
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Originally Posted by exchguy
I think Consummated means that the transfer is completed. So now we wait for ATT to fire up the radios and do their testing right? Any engineers out there can confirm the transfer?
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Originally Posted by MCFADONNA
I too am waiting for ATT to fire this thing up. Here in the land of no 3g. Of course here in Denver though what can go wrong will go wrong, They will switch it on and BAM! The power thoughout the Metro will go out.
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Originally Posted by mmaximus
I was down in the Lone Tree store a few weeks ago and one of the reps mentioned the ATT corporate office in Inverness has 3G turned on. I wish I had a 3G phone to go swing by there to check it out.
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Originally Posted by Shadowplay
Bah, I feel your pain. I'm actually in Lakewood, too. Sure I get great Edge signal at my house, but I don't *want* that.
Last I squeezed outta someone at Cingular/AT&T is still sometime in October for the front range. |
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Originally Posted by formercanuck
It would be nice to see it in Evergreen, CO
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Originally Posted by mmaximus
I was down in the Lone Tree store a few weeks ago and one of the reps mentioned the ATT corporate office in Inverness has 3G turned on. I wish I had a 3G phone to go swing by there to check it out.
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Originally Posted by Shadowplay
It's hard to guess how expansive initial 3G coverage will be in Colorado. The rep I talked to made a real point of saying they would *not* do it in stages and that they intend to go live with the whole front range - Colorado Springs up to Ft. Collins - when the time comes. Whether that includes areas like Evergreen & Genesee I dunno. It would make sense to have some coverage up I-70 though so... there's still hope.
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Originally Posted by exchguy
I work in Inverness and have an 8525 so I will stop by there (I think they are in the Dex building near Flemings) and see. There is a tower in Inverness near 100 Inverness Drive East, but they at the ATT office may have a micro tower or something.
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Originally Posted by telarium
Front range, yes. Aspen, Vail, and Steamboat Springs, maybe. Depends on if the deployment comes before winter.
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Originally Posted by exchguy
My understanding is the UMTS Node B's are already deployed to many sites at least in Denver metro and possibly beyond.
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Originally Posted by exchguy
My understanding is the UMTS Node B's are already deployed to many sites at least in Denver metro and possibly beyond.
Cell site at County Line and Holly has an Ericsson UMTS Node B in plain sight. I assume with the spectrum transfer being approved that now we are just waiting for the RF guys to complete the testing and fire up the radios? |
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Originally Posted by telarium
This is, in fact, true. All 3G deployments have stopped. They will resume whenever we feel like it - because us RF engineers were abused before, during, and after the iPhone rollout/EDGE issues. I sure as hell am going to take my sweet time.
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Originally Posted by bfbchief
Looks like there could be more 3G in CT soon...looking at the CT Siting Council Web Site Agenda http://www.ct.gov/csc/cwp/view.asp?a=956&Q=248150 you can see that Att (Cingular) is making a lot of changes to a lot of towers soon. Hopefully this is all 3G realted. Any thoughts?
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Originally Posted by bfbchief
Looks like there could be more 3G in CT soon...looking at the CT Siting Council Web Site Agenda http://www.ct.gov/csc/cwp/view.asp?a=956&Q=248150 you can see that Att (Cingular) is making a lot of changes to a lot of towers soon. Hopefully this is all 3G realted. Any thoughts?
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Originally Posted by formercanuck
It would be nice to see it in Evergreen, CO
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Originally Posted by Codevyper
I received my 8525 while at work today. I quickly installed a Cingular branded 3G sim I had available for my wireless card for my laptop.
I can say that at this moment, I am getting a signal that fluctuates between 3G and H from @ Roxford St. and the 405 freeway in Sylmar, CA up until Soledad Cyn. Rd. on the 14 Freeway in Santa Clarita. From there it falls back to edge until just before Ave. S on the 14 Fwy. coming into Palmdale. I am seeing weak 3G/H signal at my house. Don't know yet if this is a temporary thing or if it's turned up for good as I've only had my phone for a few hours now. But I'm happy it's here. Sorry if this is already been reported. This thread is looooooooong! Cheers! |
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Originally Posted by Codevyper
I received my 8525 while at work today. I quickly installed a Cingular branded 3G sim I had available for my wireless card for my laptop.
I can say that at this moment, I am getting a signal that fluctuates between 3G and H from @ Roxford St. and the 405 freeway in Sylmar, CA up until Soledad Cyn. Rd. on the 14 Freeway in Santa Clarita. From there it falls back to edge until just before Ave. S on the 14 Fwy. coming into Palmdale. I am seeing weak 3G/H signal at my house. Don't know yet if this is a temporary thing or if it's turned up for good as I've only had my phone for a few hours now. But I'm happy it's here. Sorry if this is already been reported. This thread is looooooooong! Cheers! |
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Originally Posted by formercanuck
Sylmar has had 3G service (test mode) for a few months. Over the past few months, I could receieve 3G service at 210/Roxford. Over the past month, Santa Clarita went 'live', and you can typically get a 3G signal off almost any site, except some of the 'mini' pole mounted sites. It hasn't been very stable though. Voice calls typically end up on GSM.
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Originally Posted by Codevyper
That's an awful long "test" phase. Have they been turning it up and down during that time? I live in Palmdale, so was just passing through Santa Clarita and noticed the 3G. I'm really more interested in seeing it in the A.V. where I live and Chatsworth where I work. Anywhere along the route inbetween is just icing on the cake for me at this point.
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Originally Posted by formercanuck
I suspect many sites have been 'testing' since last December. I originally had 3G service last December near the Westfield Mall in Woodland Hills, and in Frys. There hasn't been service since. I suspect they had many issues with the initial rollout in L.A.
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Originally Posted by lax2tlv
Now, I have 2-3 bars inside the house! Ran speed tests and got some of the highest I've seen in SoCal --> consistently 800-850kbps! I just hope they end this "TEST MODE" ******** that kicks me off the tower soon!
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Originally Posted by RogerPodacter
damn you guys got hsdpa phone. now i'm jealous with the n75
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Originally Posted by Codevyper
At least where I live in Palmdale I see a strong 4 bar 3G signal. When I get into my house however, it fluctuates between 1 and 2 bars. Haven't ran any test speeds yet to see what I'm looking at for network speeds.
In Chatsworth there's nothing, at least not at the corner of Nordhoff and Mason where I work. It's straight Edge. I usually go out for lunch around the area but today I didn't take my phone with me to see if I picked up 3G signal anywhere in the vicinity. |
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Originally Posted by Monadi
Has anybody got a 3G signal in Reseda yet?
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Originally Posted by MCFADONNA
Hey AT&T have you forgoten something? Say something small like COLORADO! Turn the freakin thing on !
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Originally Posted by Cstrife2
I can confirm that in chatsworth where I work on the corner of nordhoff and corbin there still is no 3g service. has anyone in the west san fernando valley been able to pick up a 3g signal? I know people are stating they can see a test signal. is there anyway I could check that on my 8525?
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Originally Posted by formercanuck
Nordhoff and Corbin has a strong site (ontop of the bank - not Wamu, next to Mimi's cafe). I used to work at Corbin/Prarie.
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Originally Posted by lax2tlv
If you're talking about UMTS signal, you are referring to a "test" signal, correct?
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Originally Posted by Duke5150
So, what's going on in Los Angeles? Coverage with the new 64k chip sucks.
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Originally Posted by Cstrife2
I can confirm that in chatsworth where I work on the corner of nordhoff and corbin there still is no 3g service. has anyone in the west san fernando valley been able to pick up a 3g signal? I know people are stating they can see a test signal. is there anyway I could check that on my 8525?
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Originally Posted by exchguy
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Any AT&T RF engineers have any testing info for Denver now that the spectrum is approved? |
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Originally Posted by telarium
Also, large portions of LA are about to go live.
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Originally Posted by Wrangler3383
I can only hope. They should just blanket the state already
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Originally Posted by telarium
Yep. It's being tested.
Also, large portions of LA are about to go live. |
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Originally Posted by telarium
Yep. It's being tested.
Also, large portions of LA are about to go live. |
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Originally Posted by lax2tlv
When exactly is "about to"? As u can read in my previous posts, I've been able to maintain an HSDPA connection through the whole San Fernando Valley but since its not "live" I can't register onto it or maintain it without an active data call....
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Originally Posted by calancaster
Telarium,
I don't mean to sound ungrateful for the update about LA "going live", but if you know more, can you go into detail? Is this happening within the next couple of weeks, months? Los Angeles is a VERY big county encompassing over 4000 square miles. Any specific areas within Los Angeles? Or within the CITY of Los Angeles? |
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Originally Posted by calancaster
I've been hearing "about to go Live" ever since I switched to Cingular back in May. I was even going to cancel within my 30 day period but someone on this forum said to wait until the end of June and 3G coverage would improve.
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Originally Posted by calancaster
It is now the end of July and 3G, (at least where I live, just south of the Fairfax district) is still non-existent.
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Originally Posted by calancaster
Any specific info would be appreciated.
signed, Frustrated with 3G In LA |
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Originally Posted by RogerPodacter
Dont know if its been posted yet. But Ventura, CA is now live with 3G!! just got home for the weekend and i did a double take looking at my phone and saw the 3g icon. so now my work (temecula) and home (ventura) both have 3g!! also, i have 3g all the way home on the freeway along ontario. I have a feeling that LA is gonna go live very soon for some reason...
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| I know you're frustrated, but most of the issues lie with the FCC and lack of spectrum. The old TDMA holdouts also pushed back the migration. Contractually (in California, at least) we were required to provide them with service until x date. Thank you, California. |
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Originally Posted by formercanuck
That's a long commute.
Umm - 3G issues in So-Cal are not due to TDMA holdouts. If that were the case, Burbank, Glendale, and other parts of L.A. wouldn't have gone live last year. L.A.'s issues were the upgrade of the original 310-380 from old AT&T Wireless (spent +1billion in upgrades during the past 2 years), then adding 3G onto it. Spectrum in L.A., is no different than most other parts of So-Cal and central Cal, and even Nor-Cal on 310-380. |
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Originally Posted by formercanuck
That's a long commute.
Umm - 3G issues in So-Cal are not due to TDMA holdouts. If that were the case, Burbank, Glendale, and other parts of L.A. wouldn't have gone live last year. L.A.'s issues were the upgrade of the original 310-380 from old AT&T Wireless (spent +1billion in upgrades during the past 2 years), then adding 3G onto it. Spectrum in L.A., is no different than most other parts of So-Cal and central Cal, and even Nor-Cal on 310-380. |
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Originally Posted by telarium
Didn't realize you worked for AT&T. PM me.
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ha! no way would i commute that. my company puts me up in a hotel down there during the week. could never understand how they had 3g down there in the middle of nowhere yet places near la had nothing. |
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Originally Posted by formercanuck
Many will say that its about time... 2nd largest city is years behind the rest of the nation.
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Just a lil shot im just poken fun.
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Originally Posted by MCFADONNA
Well there is still no Footbal team either so what ya gonna do ! J/K
Just a lil shot im just poken fun. |
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Originally Posted by telarium
Days if all goes well. I don't know the exact layout of LA, but it should be comprehensive. I'm also fairly certain that it is being presumptuous to assume LA is 4000 square miles.
Well I wasn't that someone so I don't know what to tell you. I don't know LA so I don't know what to tell you. I know you're frustrated, but most of the issues lie with the FCC and lack of spectrum. The old TDMA holdouts also pushed back the migration. Contractually (in California, at least) we were required to provide them with service until x date. Thank you, California. |
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Originally Posted by formercanuck
That's a long commute.
Umm - 3G issues in So-Cal are not due to TDMA holdouts. If that were the case, Burbank, Glendale, and other parts of L.A. wouldn't have gone live last year. L.A.'s issues were the upgrade of the original 310-380 from old AT&T Wireless (spent +1billion in upgrades during the past 2 years), then adding 3G onto it. Spectrum in L.A., is no different than most other parts of So-Cal and central Cal, and even Nor-Cal on 310-380. |
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Originally Posted by telarium
That wasn't the only reason, however. Indeed the T-mobile swap certainly didn't help move things along. (On the GSM side).
Further, there are significant spectrum differences throughout California, both in quantity and quality. Yeah, you don't work for AT&T, I do. Does that mean I'm omnipotent, certainly not - but most of the time, I know what I'm doing. |
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Originally Posted by formercanuck
That's a long commute.
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Originally Posted by ilvla2
Especially by Sloway err I mean Freeway
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Originally Posted by lax2tlv
Since the turn off-topic from "3G" to "LA+3G in LA with a side of 3G elsewhere" happened way back, I thought I'd share my "sloway" experience from last weekend. Last Friday I left work early (1pm) to make it to a cruise in Long Beach that left @ 5:30pm. Usually it takes me 15-20 min max to get from my house to LAX; last Friday, when I left home @ 1:30, the clock showed 3:10 as I passed LAX. Me and my girl were the last to board the ship in Long Beach @ 4:35, 10 min before the no-refund cutoff time. Just a personal reflection on the freeway that's been named the busiest in the world, the 405 (or locally known as the 4-5 [hours]). If I hadn't cut to the 105-->110-->405(again)-->710 I wouldn't have made it on time. Gotta love LA, the only place in the world where the same exact drive can take 45 minutes at one time, and over 2 hours at another.... O BTW... to the poster who claimed something about the 27th-29th, WHERE THE FK IS MY 3G????
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Originally Posted by formercanuck
I had 3G from Valencia to 405/Victory today, and from 118/Balboa to Valencia w/o any real issues (other than the traditional every 1-2 hour boot off of 3G service)
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Originally Posted by garrym13
For anyone in the Oklahoma city area, I got a G on my phone for like 5 minutes.
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Originally Posted by garrym13
For anyone in the Oklahoma city area, I got a G on my phone for like 5 minutes.
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Originally Posted by lax2tlv
That's all on the east side of the valley tho....
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Originally Posted by walkguru
man, where you at? ive been looking for that g since forever. or at least it seems like it. |