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AT&T 3G Rollout - Latest markets launching

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Posted by: cingular#1

Quote:
Originally Posted by djDiZZyD
Cingular#1 i`m joining the bandwagon, any word on Richmond, VA being on 3g all weekend in DC has kinda spoiled me


Richmond should be around October.

3G has been live in some areas in sacramento, its just a couple of towers for 2-3 hours a day, that are tested. So you have to be at the right place at the right time. Im thinking End of sept for Sacramento.

Charlotte and Raliegh- should be officially launched very very very soon



Posted by: walkguru

Quote:
Originally Posted by cingular#1
yes soon, don't know a date.

thanks, im checking ever day,



Posted by: Bpt_Flames

Wirelessly posted (SonyEricssonW600i/R7CA Browser/NetFront/3.3 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 UP.Link/6.3.0.0.0)

When they say metro areas do they mean only downtown areas or the whole city



Posted by: bradbradstreet

Quote:
Originally Posted by cingular#1
Charlotte and Raliegh- should be officially launched very very very soon

Raleigh is on 3G now.



Posted by: cingular#1

yes i know that i mean OFFICAILLY launching



Posted by: bradbradstreet

Quote:
Originally Posted by cingular#1
yes i know that i mean OFFICAILLY launching

Ah. I understand. There is working - and launching - and officially launching.

When I see the blue sections mapped out on the coverage site, then I will understand for real.



Posted by: kevink1

Quote:
Originally Posted by cingular#1
yes soon, don't know a date.


I sure hope so, WRT Oklahoma, since I bought my CU500 on eBay for use when visiting family in Tulsa. I'm aware that my home of Lawton is not on the schedule for some time (though, eventually, hopefully). The data is more useful when visiting family anyway since my sister refuses to get anything faster than Dialup.



Posted by: djDiZZyD

Quote:
Originally Posted by cingular#1
Richmond should be around October.


thanks for the news.....i will now do a happy dance



Posted by: formercanuck

Quote:
Originally Posted by cingular#1
Markets in CT will be launched in October. I'm just saying... all metro areas will be up by the end of the year. say if the launch all metro areas tomorrow (they won't im just using this as an example) then they can say that had all metro areas by ther end of the year....

I assume that one of those listed as 'end of year' will be Los Angeles. I don't really expect them to be much sooner. I just saw a site being retrofitted from single panel to 4 panels/sector as many have done over the past year.



Posted by: kevink1

Quote:
Originally Posted by formercanuck
I assume that one of those listed as 'end of year' will be Los Angeles. I don't really expect them to be much sooner. I just saw a site being retrofitted from single panel to 4 panels/sector as many have done over the past year.


I thought there were posts about LA already being upgraded. Unless it is just not official, and still spotty.



Posted by: jmac823200

Cingular#1 Any word on Jacksonville?



Posted by: Dancing Bear

Quote:
Originally Posted by bradbradstreet
Raleigh is on 3G now.


Charlotte is live also.



Posted by: baller4ever85

cingular#1, do you know anything about kansas city? thanks.



Posted by: Jakaroe808

Anyone hear anything about the "Harley" Market in PA?



Posted by: calh22a

I'm in Philly right now and I just noticed the 3g icon about a week ago. My phone still switches between 3g and Edge sometimes. I actually had problems making calls with my phone on 3g network this pass weekend. Are there bugs with the network that have to be tweaked out or you guys think there are problems with my phone? Anyone else experience this? Thanks for any input



Posted by: kobe833

Any word on the Palm Springs area?



Posted by: Bacco

OT -- all I can say about UMTS is wow!!!

It's so nice having such speed.



Posted by: kevink1

I saw the 3G indicator on my phone for the first time today in the Dallas-Fort Worth airport.

I was underwhelmed by the speed and service, I had to Refresh several times to get pages up, and overall wasn't as smooth as Edge is on my phone. Admittedly, it may just be the location.

Arrived at LA later. Saw 3G on the plane after they said we could use cell phones. Got to the terminal, it showed E, with 0-1 bars, and G (GPRS). Arrived to my hotel in Torrance, and I only get a strong Edge signal.



Posted by: J.D.M.

Any word on Albuquerque/Santa Fe, NM?



Posted by: formercanuck

Quote:
Originally Posted by kevink1
I thought there were posts about LA already being upgraded. Unless it is just not official, and still spotty.

I haven't seen any 3G on my ZX-20 throughout the San Fernando Valley.



Posted by: only1chip

I've had 3G at home (Duluth, GA) since I got my CU500 (about a month ago).

Today, for the first time, I have 3G in and around the office in Cumming, GA. Cumming is a far northen suburb of Atlanta, on GA 400 @ GA20, near Lake Lanier.



Posted by: StattlichPassat

The launch of the new smartphone today lacking 3G made me come back here to find out, why? Where is the rampout we've been expecting since the first of the year? It seems like it's lost importance, or hopefully we're just on the cusp of a large announcement that several more cities have been turned online.



Posted by: Bacco

On my train ride home today I noticed that 125 St had UMTS coverage. Once the train crossed into the Bronx, there continued to be UMTS for a little bit.

So, Cingular is expanding their coverage.



Posted by: Quatre

so Philly is 3g with hsdpa data for some time now right? what about the surrounding phila area and suburbs. I'm waiting till its covering a larger area of Phila and So. jersey before switching my pda phone from cdma evdo to cingular which i already have for voice.

prob look into the TyTn but might want something more one handed like a gsm Q or one of the many phones coming out that are like it(samsung and htc have or are putting out Q like device). i love the pull out keyboard of the htc wizard and apache (have an xv6700 apache) but need the one handedness of the Q (Treos etc).

Q is only wm for smartphone so i have to admit i may want to go back to a treo. maybe a wm treo instead of palm since i need the multi tasking but only if they make one with wifi.



Posted by: Jayden0606

Quote:
Originally Posted by jkb246
Its funny NJ and the rest of NYC one of the richest areas in the Country will barely have 3G minus 2 cities by the end of the year. What are they doing


Playing it safe. Why would you want it in tri-state ( mainly NYC / NJ ) and there lots of bugs? Lots of people would be happy. In the small towns, it does not matter as much. Lose millions or couple hundred?



Posted by: ilvla2

Small towns want 3G as much as the big cities, the type of thinking that says they don't is incorrect and biased. We can always cut off your food, water and power I was born and raised in a large area, but live in a rural area now, I am constatly saddend, but not surprised at the bias and wrong ideas cities have about small town America, and the ones small town America have about cities.

Thankfully, this area is served by a smaller, regional carrier, Edge Wireless (Cingular Affiliate), and they care more about our area than the big guys. The other two carriers here, US Cellular and Verizon don't have 3G either yet, but Verizon plans to by next summer or fall.



Posted by: formercanuck

I don't think Cingular, or any big company looks through your perspective. They look at the bottom line, and typically deploy where its most profitable first, then can deploy in other areas from profits made in the large areas. For example, I don't expect Grass Valley or Boron to be high up on the list, while the top 100 markets are.



Posted by: ilvla2

I know they don't, that's why smaller and regional carriers usually deploy these areas faster than the big guys, we're their bread and butter Edge is going to get UMTS here pretty soon, though USCC has no schedule that I know of for EVDO, and like I said Verizon will have EVDO here by next summer or fall.



Posted by: omoba

Quote:
Originally Posted by aadadams
I don't if my Baton Rouge LA query caught your eye or not, but assuming it didn't do you have any idea on our timeline. TIA

Just FYI- I talked to a rep at the Gonzales, LA corp store yesterday, 9/13/06 and he advised that the area should be up and running by end of October. Don't know how reliable his info was but it was exciting to know that it could be soon.



Posted by: cemmerich

Cingular#1,

Is there any indication on when Minneapolis/St. Paul will get 3G!????!?

Thanks,
Craig



Posted by: aadadams

I have spoken to reps all over the city and gotten different answers that vary from Oct. 06 to March 07 and all months in between. I was hoping Cingular#1 had a better handle on the launch.



Posted by: tstaiano

3G is alive & well in Charlotte (as I type this fom my TyTn on I-85). seems to be available everywhere within 485 and around the outskirts.



Posted by: slicric

Quote:
Originally Posted by tstaiano
3G is alive & well in Charlotte (as I type this fom my TyTn on I-85). seems to be available everywhere within 485 and around the outskirts.

Let's see if the video calling feature works!



Posted by: cingular#1

Quote:
Originally Posted by aadadams
I have spoken to reps all over the city and gotten different answers that vary from Oct. 06 to March 07 and all months in between. I was hoping Cingular#1 had a better handle on the launch.


late october november???



Posted by: tstaiano

Quote:
Originally Posted by slicric
Let's see if the video calling feature works!

Tried the video...got the good 'ol tri-tone (line not working)...

Is there any special set-up that has to be used to enable video calling?

Anyone thought about setting up Skype, Yahoo!Msgr, etc. with a TyTn?



Posted by: Jakaroe808

Quote:
Originally Posted by tstaiano
Tried the video...got the good 'ol tri-tone (line not working)...

Is there any special set-up that has to be used to enable video calling?

Anyone thought about setting up Skype, Yahoo!Msgr, etc. with a TyTn?


People have defiantly been talking about it but I dont think there has been any success yet..

Anyone in Philly suburbs? Any 3G out 30 business?



Posted by: KingJ2002

Talked to some data reps today and they informed me that the launch date for 3G in LA is december 15th



Posted by: eagle1

Anyone know when the old Ameritech regions in Cleveland, ohio area will be scheduled for 3g coverage? Even the edge speed in cleveland is spotty. Edge works, but speeds vary greatly depending on where you are in the city...



Posted by: TheChemistRX

I've read some info on here that 3g coverage is coming to Sacramento soon. Will this coverage also cover Yolo county (Specifically Davis, CA)? If so is it still set to roll out by the end of this month? I don't know where you get you information cingular1 but you seem to be the only person that knows anything about the roll out time tables. I originally bought the Sierra Aircard for my PC when I lived in Chula Vista, CA where the 3g network is up knowing that I was going to be moving to Davis. I had only bought it because on the phone they told me that 3g was up and running in Davis. To my surprise I got up here and All I was able to pick was edge. I've been waiting for month now just hoping to see the little 3g symbol pop up on my computer.



Posted by: ilvla2

I hope it covers north to Redding and Chico, Verizon is getting EVDO in the Sacramento and Northern Sacramento Valley soon (the cities of Redding, Anderson, Cottonwood, Red Bluff, Chico, Gridley, Los Molinos, Live Oak, Marysville and Yuba City), and we are supposed to get EVDO here in Mendocino and Lake Counties sometime next summer.



Posted by: Quatre

I'm in philly area where they have it but doesn't sound like its in many areas surrounding the city.

I'm going to wait at least till the new year before switching data from vzw to cing.

not worth switching if coverage isn't going to be as wide spread.

La not till dec. jeesh. I don't want to travle an not have highspeed where as I would with evdo. again ill wait till they are more on par with evdo coverage but afrad they will always be behind as vzw has had evdo for a couple years now and sprint not long after. I know they use diff type (gsm) but regardless cing is way late and tmob is ging to be done other then ppl who just want cheap phone an no web really or least not pda phone.

by keeping data and pda phone on evdo I can enjoy nice looking thin import gsm phones like the moto krzr k1 without worrying or needing it to have hsdpa or not which I will want my secondary non pda phone on gsm to have once I switch to data on cing and little to no import phones will have hsdpa because its only for the US so yeah I'm in no rush.

pda phones on cdma with evdo and use import phones for just voice on gsm at least until cing has equal hsdpa coverage to evdo which sounds like it may be awhile.



Posted by: Wide_opeN

I'm happy to announce that Cingular has expanded their 3G signal to cover all of Snellville, GA now!!!!!!!!!!!



Posted by: enigma99a

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheChemistRX
I've read some info on here that 3g coverage is coming to Sacramento soon. Will this coverage also cover Yolo county (Specifically Davis, CA)? If so is it still set to roll out by the end of this month? I don't know where you get you information cingular1 but you seem to be the only person that knows anything about the roll out time tables. I originally bought the Sierra Aircard for my PC when I lived in Chula Vista, CA where the 3g network is up knowing that I was going to be moving to Davis. I had only bought it because on the phone they told me that 3g was up and running in Davis. To my surprise I got up here and All I was able to pick was edge. I've been waiting for month now just hoping to see the little 3g symbol pop up on my computer.


Davis would be tied to a Sacramento RNC (Dixon and west would be east bay). Which BTW will be launched this year too if anyone cares. The Sacramento launch keeps slipping but just be patient guys! As far as coverage areas, I have no idea since I don't work with the site buildout/planning teams. I can tell you that the switch buildout is substantial.



Posted by: cbcharlie

i thought itd be a nice idea to make a frappr so people can post if 3G is available at there location,

http://www.frappr.com/cingular3gavailability

if you can, add yourself, and for the shoutout message, state if 3G is available or not.

If enough people participate, can become a great resource.



Posted by: Jakaroe808

Good call on that.;. Great Idea.. We need to get this pinned to the first page..



Posted by: FESCSteve

Quote:
Originally Posted by cbcharlie
i thought itd be a nice idea to make a frappr so people can post if 3G is available at there location,

http://www.frappr.com/cingular3gavailability

if you can, add yourself, and for the shoutout message, state if 3G is available or not.

If enough people participate, can become a great resource.


Thanks for doing that - something I've been asking for for a while but didn't have any idea how to do it.

One suggestion - instead of everyone posting if they have 3G or not, perhaps we should just stick with those that can confirm that it does exist? Otherwise we'll have to go through each pushpin and read if it's available or not.

Just a suggestion, but thanks for setting that up!



Posted by: cbcharlie

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jakaroe808
Good call on that.;. Great Idea.. We need to get this pinned to the first page..


thanks you for your support, mayb someone can sticky my post? if not, added to the first page would be nice too. would definitely get this thing moving.

http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1002707

ive updated it so you can add a green pin if 3g is available, and a red pin if it is not.



Posted by: cingular#1

people should only post if they HAVE 3G coverage or if its available in their area



Posted by: cbcharlie

Quote:
Originally Posted by cingular#1
people should only post if they HAVE 3G coverage or if its available in their area


thanks for your input, i changed it, now you can add a green pin if its available, and a red pin if its not. Hope that makes things better



Posted by: cingular#1

thank you..



Posted by: cingular#1

Admin: Please enable at least one Place pin

when i try to add more than one place...this comes up



Posted by: cbcharlie

Quote:
Originally Posted by cingular#1
Admin: Please enable at least one Place pin

when i try to add more than one place...this comes up


done. you can now add multiple places

everybody please participate, http://www.frappr.com/cingular3gavailability



Posted by: cingular#1

Quote:
Originally Posted by cbcharlie
done. you can now add multiple places

everybody please participate, http://www.frappr.com/cingular3gavailability

this guys amazing



Posted by: baller4ever85

Kansas City, MO is scheduled for Phase 1 launch on October 2nd with 93% population coverage.



Posted by: bradbradstreet

Driving through the north side of Canton, Ohio and we just got 3G



Posted by: ILuvMyMac

Any updates for the St. Louis market? Have we been pushed back yet again?



Posted by: cingular#1

yes to september/october



Posted by: Jakaroe808

Quote:
Originally Posted by cbcharlie
done. you can now add multiple places

everybody please participate, http://www.frappr.com/cingular3gavailability


Good work.. This thing is starting to take shape..



Posted by: cbcharlie

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jakaroe808
Good work.. This thing is starting to take shape..


thanks, we just need that url in a sticky'd topic and it'l explode, come on moderators, you know you want to



Posted by: bradbradstreet

Akron, Ohio has 3G



Posted by: xbox360gamer

FYI - the Orlando and Daytona ares (in FL) officially went live two days ago. too bad that its not covering the entire central FL area like I thought it would.



Posted by: monkey28rb

i wonder when cingualr is going to update their coverage maps to show all this new coverage.. ive checked for all these places on their website but nothing



Posted by: Bacco

Monkey, I think they update their maps once a month. That's why the Frapper map was setup to have more current info.



Posted by: shtekler

Just wandering who run Cingular?
AT&T or Cingular,but for sure they are doing what they want not what the public would like.



Posted by: formercanuck

As any large corporation... they would do what is in the company + shareholders best interest.



Posted by: ilvla2

Yep, the customers and employees are an afterthought



Posted by: Jakaroe808

That's how America works... It all runs on the USD..



Posted by: ilvla2

Or how it doesn't work



Posted by: SpiralSlash

Quote:
Originally Posted by baller4ever85
Kansas City, MO is scheduled for Phase 1 launch on October 2nd with 93% population coverage.
Just KCMO or are we talking about the entire KC metro? What about suburbs?



Posted by: pipmaster1971

I've asked before, but no one knew back then...Rather than dates when particular markets will be 3G, does anyone know when Cingular anticipate their 3G roll-out will be complete? Or rather a 3G network that covers an area the same as Verizon or Sprint's EV-DO network?



Posted by: spartanrob

Can anyone confirm a date for the Detroit area.



Posted by: Jakaroe808

Quote:
Originally Posted by pipmaster1971
I've asked before, but no one knew back then...Rather than dates when particular markets will be 3G, does anyone know when Cingular anticipate their 3G roll-out will be complete? Or rather a 3G network that covers an area the same as Verizon or Sprint's EV-DO network?


I would give it at lease a year..



Posted by: TurboDan

"By the end of the month" for Monmouth-Middlesex counties in NJ, according to the rep there today. The Monmouth Mall store is already selling the CU500 and ZX20.



Posted by: Dr. John

I hear "October" for Cincinnati. Can anyone confirm or deny this, or give a better date?

Thanks



Posted by: starjade77

Quote:
Originally Posted by formercanuck
Waiting on Los Angeles as well... No 3G on my ZX-20. I've currently disabled the 850 band to allow my phone to use AMR-full rate (thanks to an empty 1900 MHz band) and roam onto T-Mobile (I can see it through FEM mode on the ZX-20) Believe it or not, -105dBm on GSM 1900 (assumed AMR-full rate) works better than -95dBm on GSM 850 (assumed AMR-half rate).


I live in Orange County and am looking for the ZX-20...Where did you get yours?



Posted by: Gator5000e

Quote:
Originally Posted by xbox360gamer
FYI - the Orlando and Daytona ares (in FL) officially went live two days ago. too bad that its not covering the entire central FL area like I thought it would.


Where are the gaps or the problem areas? Thanks for any information.



Posted by: formercanuck

Quote:
Originally Posted by starjade77
I live in Orange County and am looking for the ZX-20...Where did you get yours?

I got mine through sales (611).



Posted by: cbcharlie

i noticed that 3G was live in NY, long island, along 110, this was also confirmed by my local cingular rep. also for more 3G coverage not listed on cingulars coverage maps, check out my coverage map, controlled by you guys,

http://www.frappr.com/cingular3gavailability

keep adding those locations!



Posted by: berdinkerdickle

Quote:
Originally Posted by cbcharlie
i noticed that 3G was live in NY, long island, along 110, this was also confirmed by my local cingular rep. also for more 3G coverage not listed on cingulars coverage maps, check out my coverage map, controlled by you guys,

http://www.frappr.com/cingular3gavailability

keep adding those locations!


Thanks for the link, I was just looking for something like that.
Oregon City, Or. (just outside portland)

Any other suggests where I can check availabilty for 3g Cing?



Posted by: larz

Getting close to supposed Sept 25th 3G rollout here in Cleveland, OH area. One of the cingular company stores i stopped by had a laptop with data card set up for customers to play with on the 3G network. Download speeds around 140-150 kilobytes/second.

One of the company stores also put a sign up on the door saying that it will be closed on Monday, Sept 25th until 1pm so associates can participate in some training program. Perhaps training about their new 3G products? Anyone else heard of this?



Posted by: macizcool

Quote:
Originally Posted by larz
Download speeds around 140-150 kilobytes/second.


Wow, that is unimpressive. EDGE is capable of those speeds. And I get about 150-225KB/sec with my free 1x on Verizon....



Posted by: cingular#1

i get an average 1.2Mbps on my free cingular 3g.

i also get and average of 2.1Mbps on my free clearwire

not bad

BTW cingular is the only one with 3g here..... vzw, sprint cant compete



Posted by: spartanrob

Just got my TyTn in Michigan. I'm getting 882



Posted by: bradbradstreet

Quote:
Originally Posted by larz
Getting close to supposed Sept 25th 3G rollout here in Cleveland, OH area. One of the cingular company stores i stopped by had a laptop with data card set up for customers to play with on the 3G network. Download speeds around 140-150 kilobytes/second.

I was getting 600-700 Kbps speeds in Akron over the weekend with a 3G PC Card.



Posted by: Gator5000e

I don't know how recent this map is, but it shows 3G in the central Florida cities of Orlando and Tampa. Someone recentoy mentioned that Orlando just went live, so maybe the map is pretty recent. Here is the link:

http://www.cingular.com/b2b/content...ct_Brochure.pdf



Posted by: pipmaster1971

Quote:
Originally Posted by macizcool
Wow, that is unimpressive. EDGE is capable of those speeds. And I get about 150-225KB/sec with my free 1x on Verizon....


I'm impressed, especially since I always thought 1xRTT peak rate was about 150Kbps. Slower in most implementations

http://aboutus.vzw.com/bestnetwork/network_facts.html

My guess is some caching is going on...



Posted by: larz

sorry to be unclear, i was quoting kilobytes per second not kilobits per second.


1 byte = 8 bits so you need to either divide your number by 8 or multiply mine by 8 if you want to compare the two.

nothing fancy, just started downloading an ubuntu iso (image of a cdrom) and reporting what internet explorer told me the download speed probably not the most accurate way to test speed

Quote:
Originally Posted by macizcool
Wow, that is unimpressive. EDGE is capable of those speeds. And I get about 150-225KB/sec with my free 1x on Verizon....







@pipmaster1971

i was trying to get a feel for how cingular's 3g felt for simple web browsing, but the store had some caching/web accelerator enabled. tried connecting with "cingular - non-accelerated" connection but it wouldnt connect.



Posted by: hitechy

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gator5000e
I don't know how recent this map is, but it shows 3G in the central Florida cities of Orlando and Tampa. Someone recentoy mentioned that Orlando just went live, so maybe the map is pretty recent. Here is the link:

http://www.cingular.com/b2b/content...ct_Brochure.pdf


Oh poo bags. I just sold my CU500 a week ago. It must have JUST launched. I wanted to test it out . I have a slow K790a. Oh well, I'll just have to get the RAZR MAXX .



Posted by: DRC72

Quote:
Originally Posted by hitechy
Oh poo bags. I just sold my CU500 a week ago. It must have JUST launched. I wanted to test it out . I have a slow K790a. Oh well, I'll just have to get the RAZR MAXX .

Should of kept it!!!



Posted by: bradbradstreet

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gator5000e
I don't know how recent this map is, but it shows 3G in the central Florida cities of Orlando and Tampa. Someone recentoy mentioned that Orlando just went live, so maybe the map is pretty recent. Here is the link:

http://www.cingular.com/b2b/content...ct_Brochure.pdf

This looks pretty close to what we have not on the Frapper map site.



Posted by: macizcool

Quote:
Originally Posted by cingular#1
i get an average 1.2Mbps on my free cingular 3g.


That sounds a little more impressive.

Quote:
Originally Posted by pipmaster1971
I'm impressed, especially since I always thought 1xRTT peak rate was about 150Kbps. Slower in most implementations

My guess is some caching is going on...


Could be.... It says I am connected at 225KB/sec... But my tests showed about 150KB/sec.... I kinda take it with a grain of salt. Still faster than dialup!

Quote:
Originally Posted by larz
sorry to be unclear, i was quoting kilobytes per second not kilobits per second.


1 byte = 8 bits so you need to either divide your number by 8 or multiply mine by 8 if you want to compare the two.


I said KB... which =kilobytes.



Posted by: drakmog

3G / HSDPA - IN CLEVELAND IS WORKING NOW WITH LG CU500 JUST CONFIRMED, ACTUAL STORE LAUNCH DATE ACROSS ALL OF CLEVELAND IS THIS COMING MONDAY FOR SURE!!!!!! FINALLY!! WHOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!



Posted by: Dr. John

Dammit! When is Cincinnati going to get some 3G love?





Posted by: guapinoy

come on jacksonville!



Posted by: superceleb

Quote:
Originally Posted by drakmog
3G / HSDPA - IN CLEVELAND IS WORKING NOW WITH LG CU500 JUST CONFIRMED, ACTUAL STORE LAUNCH DATE ACROSS ALL OF CLEVELAND IS THIS COMING MONDAY FOR SURE!!!!!! FINALLY!! WHOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!


It's been working on my cu500 in Cleveland for about a month now...it just hasn't officially launched yet.



Posted by: ScruffyGuy

Anyone know when its comming to Pittsburgh, PA?



Posted by: cingular#1

sooner than expected



Posted by: pcmike

cingular #1,

What's clearwire?



Posted by: cingular#1

Quote:
Originally Posted by pcmike
cingular #1,

What's clearwire?


clearwire is wimax. Some people call it 4G. its twice as fast, and HALF the price.

For more info www.clearwire.com



Posted by: pcmike

Gotcha, thank you.



Posted by: whitebengal

Indianapolis launched today, Sept 24, 2006.
LG CU500 is $149.99 with 2 year agreement.

Coverage is Marion County and parts of the adjacent counties.
I know for a fact that the Southern most coverage stops at SR 144 and Sr 37.



Posted by: formercanuck

Quote:
Originally Posted by cingular#1
clearwire is wimax. Some people call it 4G. its twice as fast, and HALF the price.

For more info www.clearwire.com

Problem with WiMax is that coverage is extremely limted. For example, in California (population over 30 million), coverage is limited to a few smaller cities (Redding, Modesto, Stockton, Merced, Visalia and soon Chico). No Los Angeles, San Jose/ San Francisco, Los Angeles, San Diego, Bakersfield, etc. ? Twice as fast, half the price, but not available in over 90% of the population that matters won't do any good. Also, speed only goes 'up to' 1.5Mbps according to their own service plans.



Posted by: formercanuck

Quote:
Originally Posted by macizcool
That sounds a little more impressive.



Could be.... It says I am connected at 225KB/sec... But my tests showed about 150KB/sec.... I kinda take it with a grain of salt. Still faster than dialup!



I said KB... which =kilobytes.


Don't forget 225Kbytes / second ~= 1.8 Mbps / second, and 150 KBytes / seconds ~= 1.2Mbps. 1x isn't any good beyond ~ 120kbps. You must be on EVDO, or have your data cached (or is compressible text).



Posted by: macizcool

Quote:
Originally Posted by formercanuck
Don't forget 225Kbytes / second ~= 1.8 Mbps / second, and 150 KBytes / seconds ~= 1.2Mbps. 1x isn't any good beyond ~ 120kbps. You must be on EVDO, or have your data cached (or is compressible text).


It was definately 1x... I haven't worked on my phone yet to get EVDO DUN. And I used Google to convert the speed

Anyways, I was just saying that 3G should be faster than 150KB/sec... Is this not true?



Posted by: walkguru

okc is ready for some 3g love.



Posted by: eagle1

Quote:
Originally Posted by superceleb
It's been working on my cu500 in Cleveland for about a month now...it just hasn't officially launched yet.


What speeds are you getting in cleveland? What is the area? West side suburbs and/or east side suburbs?



Posted by: formercanuck

Quote:
Originally Posted by macizcool
It was definately 1x... I haven't worked on my phone yet to get EVDO DUN. And I used Google to convert the speed

Anyways, I was just saying that 3G should be faster than 150KB/sec... Is this not true?


CDMA 1x has a physical maximum of 153 kbps (19.1 KB/second) with enhanced offering approximately 307 kbps (38.4 KB/second) which gives a real world (i.e. including overhead) of less than that.

http://www.cdg.org/technology/3g/re...dvantage_1x.asp

Looks like Little Rock and Indianapolis are officially live.

http://cingular.mediaroom.com/index...eases&item=1687
http://cingular.mediaroom.com/index...eases&item=1685



Posted by: Quatre

wimax is the future



Posted by: DRC72

Quote:
Originally Posted by walkguru
okc is ready for some 3g love.


We need some loving here in CT.



Posted by: ilvla2

Quote:
Originally Posted by formercanuck
Problem with WiMax is that coverage is extremely limted. For example, in California (population over 30 million), coverage is limited to a few smaller cities (Redding, Modesto, Stockton, Merced, Visalia and soon Chico). No Los Angeles, San Jose/ San Francisco, Los Angeles, San Diego, Bakersfield, etc. ? Twice as fast, half the price, but not available in over 90% of the population that matters won't do any good. Also, speed only goes 'up to' 1.5Mbps according to their own service plans.


Finally, the smaller, rural areas get some hi tech before the big guys We matter as much as those big cities by the way, maybe we'll revolt one of these days and cut off your food, water and power



Posted by: formercanuck

just make sure that the spinach supply is cut off



Posted by: Willie3White

So at my local store and my friend the assistant manager said that the 8525 was coming out oct 3rd and i said i thought it wouldn't launch here till we got 3G and he said they should also launch the 3G at the same time. He got all the information from what looked like and excell spreadsheet that listed all types of information. Can anybody confirm? this would make my day because my birthday is like 4 days latter so i could get myself and early present



Posted by: Flyer00

A Cingular business rep I spoke to today confirmed a mid-November 3G launch for the Cincinnati area. I just thought I'd pass it on since some of you were asking about Cincy.



Posted by: Dr. John

Quote:
Originally Posted by Flyer00
A Cingular business rep I spoke to today confirmed a mid-November 3G launch for the Cincinnati area. I just thought I'd pass it on since some of you were asking about Cincy.


I really, really, really, really hope you're wrong. I've heard mid to late-October from Cingular reps, and mid-November would really suck. I'd like to pick up the 8525 in a store, but I won't be able to do that unless Cincy launches 3G.

Thanks for replying though.



Posted by: bradbradstreet

Quote:
Originally Posted by eagle1
What speeds are you getting in cleveland? What is the area? West side suburbs and/or east side suburbs?

Last week we were in Akron and almost out to Medina on route 18. Had a good solid 3G signal all over. I use the Vonage speed test site and was getting 650Kbps - 700Kbps downloads and 300Kbps - 350Kbps uploads.



Posted by: Havoc21

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gator5000e
I don't know how recent this map is, but it shows 3G in the central Florida cities of Orlando and Tampa. Someone recentoy mentioned that Orlando just went live, so maybe the map is pretty recent. Here is the link:

http://www.cingular.com/b2b/content...ct_Brochure.pdf

Was in downtown Orlando and by the airport this morning... Nothing.
Also was in downtown Tampa this afternoon... Nothing as well.



Posted by: formercanuck

That adds a few new places to the map...
Detroit,
Cleveland,
Philadelphia,
Fresno,
Tampa,
Orlando
Charlotte,
Raliegh

Others such as Columbus, Indianapolis, Little Rock, Tucson have been posted through Cingular's newsroom site.

The pdf looks like an early template, as the 1-800 number and url are left blank at the bottom.



Posted by: ilvla2

It's still way behind Verizon's EVDO in CA, it's launching soon in Bakersfield, Hanford, Visalia, Corcoran, Fresno and all the little farming towns in-between, also in the Stockton to Merced area and on up to where it ends south of Sacramento, as well as in Redding, Red Bluff, Corning, Anderson, Cottonwood, Chico, Gridley, Yuba City and Marysville and in-between all those areas as well. We are not supposed to get it up here in Mendocino and Lake Counties until next spring at the earliest.

As for UMTS here, I know Edge Wireless is working on testing and deploying it, I don't have a schedule on it. I wrote them a couple of weeks ago, but never received a reply.


Edit-To me, it seems like Verizon is giving us rural and smaller towns much more attention than Cingular, boo on you Cingular. I think Verizon understands that a lot of people in Central and NorCal live and work outside the major cities and/or travel routinely via train or car between the biggier cities and want broadband to follow them. A good example would be here, we are a major wine vineyard and wine producing area, and the owners often travel from the heart of SF to the rural, vineyard areas of Sonoma, Napa, Lake and Mendocino in their jobs, and having broadband access only in their offices in SF isn't gonna cut it. Why is Cingular so slowwwwww to roll it out outside of the big cities?



Posted by: formercanuck

I don't know about that... Sprint's street level coverage map hits some places with EVDO, but then misses other areas completely (i.e. Saugus isn't covered, neither is parts of Porter Ranch). While Cingular covers areas of the central valley (i.e. Fresno) but nothing between Kern County and San Diego county. VZW shows most of 99 as future VCast coverage (EVDO) but not much on I-5. Sprint ends coverage altogether before Chico.



Posted by: ilvla2

Sprint has no coverage at all between Cloverdale (about 35 miles south of me) and Eureka (I'm in that corridor, about 115 miles north of SF and 150 miles south of Eureka), and even in Eureka it's a TINY sliver.

That 99 area is where most of the farms, freight and passenger rail lines, towns and cities, food production, etc is, so I'm sure that's why it's getting more attention. Now, that partially true for 99 up here in NorCal, though a lot of farms, production and an important rail line run along the west valley and I-5 area, areas being mostly ignored right now.



Posted by: ilvla2

Here's a map of Verizon's current and coming soon EVDO coverage, the red star is where I live Currently, EVDO ends 45 miles south of me, in Healdsburg, but it'll be here by next Summer, maybe next Spring.





Posted by: macizcool

Quote:
Originally Posted by bradbradstreet
Last week we were in Akron and almost out to Medina on route 18. Had a good solid 3G signal all over. I use the Vonage speed test site and was getting 650Kbps - 700Kbps downloads and 300Kbps - 350Kbps uploads.


Cingular has Medina covered very well (better than even Verizon), so it wouldn't surprise me at all if 3G was solid and fast throughout Medina.



Posted by: Jakaroe808

Harley Market? Anyone know about Eastern PA?



Posted by: monstera4

What about Atlanta?? Anybody know when 3G is going live?
Tired of waiting!!!



Posted by: superceleb

Quote:
Originally Posted by eagle1
What speeds are you getting in cleveland? What is the area? West side suburbs and/or east side suburbs?


I'd have to check on the speeds, but I live downtown and it is working great. Seems like it is good in the inner ring suburbs (Lakewood, Brooklyn, Cleveland Heights, Shaker Heights, etc), but switches back to EDGE beyond that.



Posted by: monkey28rb

Atlanta has been live for about 2 months now.. it still has some dead spots around but they have been working on it and it should be fixed by the end of the year



Posted by: drakmog

REGARDING CLEVELAND 3G COVERAGE + SPEED TESTS!
(Topics covered: East and Westside, And SPEED TESTS)


COVERAGE:
Well I live near Mayfield Heights (I live in Gates Mills) there is no coverage in Mayfield Heights, but if you take 271 South from Mayfield Exit (toward Beachwood) you pickup coverage immediately, and 3G coverage remains full bars all the way through 271 SOUTH of Mayfield and then all the way through 480 going West, the furthest I have taken it is out to Parma (RIDGE ROAD EXIT) and getting full bars the whole way on 271 and 480, I have Very GOOD 3G Coverage Past Ridge Rd. & Snow Rd. and have only gone to About 1 Mile Before Parma Mall, But it works Really Well throughout Parma.

As for the East Side, Beachwood works fully, Cleveland Heights, The Cell @ Richmond Mall is 3g So Coverage is anywhere on Wilson Mills Rd. WEST of Brainard (It just drops out after you cross Brainard on WilsonMills Rd. Going East) Works into South Euclid and west toward Cleveland, and then works on 90 But not until after 260th Street Exit (90 West going toward Cleveland).

SPEEDS:
Quote:
Originally Posted by eagle1
What speeds are you getting in cleveland? What is the area? West side suburbs and/or east side suburbs?


As For SPEEDS, I tried to Test them with the Handset (LG CU500), but I was getting Errors, So I hooked it up to my MacBook Pro via Bluetooth and Was getting Average Download Speeds of 740 kbps (85.0 kb/s) and UPLOAD SPEEDS Averaging 350 (42.0 kb/s) I Tried speedtests on NYC.SPEAKEASY.NET, FTP TESTS WITH MY WEBSERVER, and Bandwidthplace.com/speedtest all the results were uniform and my FTP tests bursted to 98.0 kb/s (ALMOST A MEGABIT!!!!) and all this through bluetooth v1.2


ONE REALLY WEIRD THING w/ 3G COVERAGE on THE EAST SIDE of CLEVELAND, OHIO
PLEASE READ and Respond if you can TEST this or HAVE EXPERIENCED IT!

ALL IN ALL WORKS VERY WELL, but one Really weird thing, if I go from a Fully Covered 3G Area and am using my laptop to Tether and talking on the phone (voice) at the same time, then drive into Mayfield Heights for example (NON-3G Coverage), the 3G Coverage Stays Active and I can Use VOICE And DATA SIMULTANIOUSLY until Either The VOICE or DATA connection is disconnected by me, then it reverts to EDGE. I am not sure HOW OR WHY THIS happens but it is a TRUE 3G connection as I have tested the SPEEDS (SAME AS ABOVE) in Mayfield while on a VOICE CALL. Let me know if you guys are seeing the same thing happen I Would Appreciate it, or if anyone has any insight on how to KEEP that 3G Connection Active in Mayfield Heights. THANKS!!!! AND HOPE THIS INFORMATION HELPS FEEL FREE TO GET IN TOUCH WITH ME WITH ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS via Private Message or Email: jkhf (AT) drakmog (DOT) endjunk (DOT) com - HOPE TO HEAR FROM YA!



Posted by: kodiak42

I've had UMTS in the orlando area since yesterday - I noticed it this morning on the way to work and when I showed it to my coworker, he told me that he's had the long-awaited 'U' since yesterday morning. I'm working in the Lake Mary/Heathrow area (15 mins north of orlando). I haven't done a speed test - I'll do one and will post the results.



Posted by: larz

I'm in the same area as you at the moment and experienced the same thing. Most likely it is because 3g is being barred (meaning the 3g equipment is installed and turned on, but engineers are still testing it) on cells in areas like mayfield etc that are "non-3g." This means that a call can hand off to it but access will be prevented once the call ends.

I actually found that on 271 coming from mayfield area, I don't pick up 3g till i pass the chagrin blvd exit. Chagrin blvd from 271 all they way to the end of the van aken rapid line didn't have 3g enabled. Drove down lee road from chagrin blvd and cu500 didnt switch back to 3g until harvard road (cell# 203). Driving back on 480 to 271 i was able to hold a call on 3g all the way into mayfield area.


Quote:
Originally Posted by drakmog
REGARDING CLEVELAND 3G COVERAGE + SPEED TESTS!


[SIZE=4]
ONE REALLY WEIRD THING w/ 3G COVERAGE on THE EAST SIDE of CLEVELAND, OHIO
PLEASE READ and Respond if you can TEST this or HAVE EXPERIENCED IT!

ALL IN ALL WORKS VERY WELL, but one Really weird thing, if I go from a Fully Covered 3G Area and am using my laptop to Tether and talking on the phone (voice) at the same time, then drive into Mayfield Heights for example (NON-3G Coverage), the 3G Coverage Stays Active and I can Use VOICE And DATA SIMULTANIOUSLY until Either The VOICE or DATA connection is disconnected by me, then it reverts to EDGE. I am not sure HOW OR WHY THIS happens but it is a TRUE 3G connection as I have tested the SPEEDS (SAME AS ABOVE) in Mayfield while on a VOICE CALL. Let me know if you guys are seeing the same thing happen I Would Appreciate it, or if anyone has any insight on how to KEEP that 3G Connection Active in Mayfield Heights. THANKS!!!! AND HOPE THIS INFORMATION HELPS FEEL FREE TO GET IN TOUCH WITH ME WITH ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS via Private Message or Email: jkhf (AT) drakmog (DOT) endjunk (DOT) com - HOPE TO HEAR FROM YA!




Posted by: drakmog

Thanks for the Post Larz, Today I noticed that 3G didn't pickup until Chagrin Blvd. Exit (heading South on 271 from Mayfield), whereas yesterday it was from just after Brainard/Cedar Rd. Exit (same heading). I think they must be testing/rebooting/diagnosing those UMTS/HSDPA towers and hardware. When I was in Mayfield Today I brought a Date/voice connection on 3G in from Richmond Heights and my Phone was still Hooked onto CELLID: 503 ( I wrote down all the specs from that connection) and the 3G connection was working perfectly using the phone with voice and getting 85.5 kb/s via bluetooth on my macbook pro, I tried to Manually find the 503 Cell tower entering the 2945#*# code once inside the engineering menu (277634#*#) and then Switching Network from Automatic to Manual. But the CellID 503 doesn't show up, only Tmobile 2G and Cingular 2G for some reason. if there is a way to force the Cu500 to Connect to a specific CellID, and that CellTower only (i.e. 503) we could have 3G all over mayfield/Gates mills/Hunting Valley. So if anyone can get that working please let me know!

Thanks!


Quote:
Originally Posted by larz
I'm in the same area as you at the moment and experienced the same thing. Most likely it is because 3g is being barred (meaning the 3g equipment is installed and turned on, but engineers are still testing it) on cells in areas like mayfield etc that are "non-3g." This means that a call can hand off to it but access will be prevented once the call ends.

I actually found that on 271 coming from mayfield area, I don't pick up 3g till i pass the chagrin blvd exit. Chagrin blvd from 271 all they way to the end of the van aken rapid line didn't have 3g enabled. Drove down lee road from chagrin blvd and cu500 didnt switch back to 3g until harvard road (cell# 203). Driving back on 480 to 271 i was able to hold a call on 3g all the way into mayfield area.




Posted by: larz

drakmog....

drove around a bit more this evening with cu500 trying out what you described...starting a call in 3G area and holding it into non-3g. I was able to start a call at bishop rd & i-90 in 3G (cu500 -> 277634#*# -> modem -> network mode -> 3G Only) and hold it from there to OH-2...all the way up oh-2 to OH-44 by painesville....across oh-44 to i-90 east....i-90 east all the way to mile marker 209 right by madison twp border where the 3G call dropped. I got no signal until i went back into the engineering menu and set the phone from 3G only back to dual mode. Looks like 3G launch in cleveland...at least on the east side is going to be comparable in footprint to the footprint of the unlimited local wireless calling carrier (used to be northcoast pcs...not sure what they call it now) once they unbar the rest of these 3G cells. call quality was pretty impressive.




Quote:
Originally Posted by drakmog
REGARDING CLEVELAND 3G COVERAGE + SPEED TESTS!

[SIZE=4]
ONE REALLY WEIRD THING w/ 3G COVERAGE on THE EAST SIDE of CLEVELAND, OHIO
PLEASE READ and Respond if you can TEST this or HAVE EXPERIENCED IT!

ALL IN ALL WORKS VERY WELL, but one Really weird thing, if I go from a Fully Covered 3G Area and am using my laptop to Tether and talking on the phone (voice) at the same time, then drive into Mayfield Heights for example (NON-3G Coverage), the 3G Coverage Stays Active and I can Use VOICE And DATA SIMULTANIOUSLY until Either The VOICE or DATA connection is disconnected by me, then it reverts to EDGE. I am not sure HOW OR WHY THIS happens but it is a TRUE 3G connection as I have tested the SPEEDS (SAME AS ABOVE) in Mayfield while on a VOICE CALL. Let me know if you guys are seeing the same thing happen I Would Appreciate it, or if anyone has any insight on how to KEEP that 3G Connection Active in Mayfield Heights. THANKS!!!! AND HOPE THIS INFORMATION HELPS FEEL FREE TO GET IN TOUCH WITH ME WITH ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS via Private Message or Email: jkhf (AT) drakmog (DOT) endjunk (DOT) com - HOPE TO HEAR FROM YA!




Posted by: drakmog

larz, try the samething, but this time leave your phone in BOTH 2G and 3G automatic mode and right after you make your call (with 3G Coverage), press the Task button (left side of phone under the volume buttons) and open up a web browser, if you keep your voice call on speaker phone you can do this at the same time. just casually click on links while talking on the phone, and watch how far your 3G service goes then. I tried to do what you did, by switching the phone to 3G ONLY and it cut out, the voice call and the data both died instead of swiching over to CELL 503 as it does when 2G and 3G are enabled. So try it that way and see what happens, if you can tether your phone to a laptop while on a voice call, do that its much easier and that way you can keep testing the speeds (on a site like nyc.speakeasy.net). let me know! thanks for the update.

Quote:
Originally Posted by larz
drakmog....

drove around a bit more this evening with cu500 trying out what you described...starting a call in 3G area and holding it into non-3g. I was able to start a call at bishop rd & i-90 in 3G (cu500 -> 277634#*# -> modem -> network mode -> 3G Only) and hold it from there to OH-2...all the way up oh-2 to OH-44 by painesville....across oh-44 to i-90 east....i-90 east all the way to mile marker 209 right by madison twp border where the 3G call dropped. I got no signal until i went back into the engineering menu and set the phone from 3G only back to dual mode. Looks like 3G launch in cleveland...at least on the east side is going to be comparable in footprint to the footprint of the unlimited local wireless calling carrier (used to be northcoast pcs...not sure what they call it now) once they unbar the rest of these 3G cells. call quality was pretty impressive.




Posted by: Justin5117

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jakaroe808
Harley Market? Anyone know about Eastern PA?

I would like to know about Eastern Pa, Philadelphia to.



Posted by: formercanuck

According to this...
http://www.cingular.com/b2b/content...ct_Brochure.pdf
Philly is listed. Still nothing on there for places like Los Angeles, Denver, OKC, Tulsa or NOLA.



Posted by: Havoc21

3g is up and running in downtown tampa and orlando



Posted by: iamthedudeman

Quote:
Originally Posted by Havoc21
3g is up and running in downtown tampa and orlando


Still not fully active in Clearwater. I have partial 3g some of the time as I live right across the causeway. Hopefully not long before its over here too.



Posted by: supercop360

Whats up with Ft. Lauderdale/Miami Florida? We need some 3g love too



Posted by: formercanuck

Quote:
Originally Posted by supercop360
Whats up with Ft. Lauderdale/Miami Florida? We need some 3g love too

Probably the same thing that's up with Los Angeles/So Cal. Slow buildout due to size (hopefully that's it).



Posted by: ScruffyGuy

When is sooner than expected (with reference to the 3G coming to PGH PA)?


Quote:
Originally Posted by cingular#1
sooner than expected




Posted by: amheck

will the Tampa 3G reach to St. Pete?



Posted by: 100thMonkey

I want to know when Jersey is gonna get some more 3g Luv...I want more than newark and Parsippany!



Posted by: exchguy

Quote:
Originally Posted by formercanuck
According to this...
http://www.cingular.com/b2b/content...ct_Brochure.pdf
Philly is listed. Still nothing on there for places like Los Angeles, Denver, OKC, Tulsa or NOLA.


Has anyone else heard status for Denver? Mashie and I have talked to a few stores and all we have heard is Q3 of 2007!! WTF? Supposedly, the spectrum issue was resolved for Denver.



Posted by: Havoc21

Wirelessly posted (Opera/8.01 (J2ME/MIDP; Opera Mini/2.0.4719/1316; en; U; ssr))

Quote:
Originally Posted by amheck
will the Tampa 3G reach to St. Pete?


i dont think the current setup has it going that far. i will check this weekend.



Posted by: hitechy

Quote:
Originally Posted by formercanuck
Probably the same thing that's up with Los Angeles/So Cal. Slow buildout due to size (hopefully that's it).


No, I think it's more which is highest on the priorty list. You can easily imagine cities like Atlanta and Orlando to get it before others because they are huge hotspot for business and tourism (more so than others).



Posted by: hitechy

Quote:
Originally Posted by kodiak42
I've had UMTS in the orlando area since yesterday - I noticed it this morning on the way to work and when I showed it to my coworker, he told me that he's had the long-awaited 'U' since yesterday morning. I'm working in the Lake Mary/Heathrow area (15 mins north of orlando). I haven't done a speed test - I'll do one and will post the results.


Have you been to Winter Park? I live in the southern part of Winter Park closer to downtown Orlando so I imagine I'm in coverage.



Posted by: ibkiss

With my TYTN, got 736kbits in downtown Princeton and in the Best Buy shopping mall on Route 1.

I did notice the U showing up a few weeks ago at the hooters on route one, but it would change to Edge when trying to connect to the net.



Posted by: Havoc21

Quote:
Originally Posted by hitechy
Have you been to Winter Park? I live in the southern part of Winter Park closer to downtown Orlando so I imagine I'm in coverage.
Yes it is covered, my fiance went up to Sanford yesterday called and told me she had 3g.



Posted by: Gator5000e

Quote:
Originally Posted by Havoc21
Yes it is covered, my fiance went up to Sanford yesterday called and told me she had 3g.


Slightly off topic - sorry - but what kind of 3g phones do you Central Florida folks havel? I need one bad, but really don't want to pay the big bucks for an unlocked one. Thanks.



Posted by: Havoc21

I cheated and picked up a LG CU500 in atlatna on my way back from vacation one week after it came out. You can try and get an upgrade over the phone through customer service since 3g is on in Orlando now.



Posted by: shortyd999

Wirelessly posted (LG-CU500 Obigo/WAP2.0 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 UP.Link/6.3.0.0.0)

My phone says 3G!!!!!! Birmingham is online! Its fast too! yay!!



Posted by: 100thMonkey

good for you shorty!!!!



Posted by: hitechy

I know Cingular's 3G has been static for a year now, but it seems this month Cingular is really picking up the pace with 3G rollout. There have been so many people from different cities reporting 3G this month. I guess its just taken a while for gradual build out in each city and they're all starting to be finalized now.



Posted by: shortyd999

Wirelessly posted (LG-CU500 Obigo/WAP2.0 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 UP.Link/6.3.0.0.0)

OMG im postiog this WHILE talking on the phone at the same time! Its much cooler to do than just talking about it!



Posted by: jonathanlord

3G in Miami is now on !!



Posted by: formercanuck

Quote:
Originally Posted by hitechy
I know Cingular's 3G has been static for a year now, but it seems this month Cingular is really picking up the pace with 3G rollout. There have been so many people from different cities reporting 3G this month. I guess its just taken a while for gradual build out in each city and they're all starting to be finalized now.

Don't forget, unlike EVDO, UMTS requires larger amounts of spectrum and has to be able to do both voice and data. Since the majority of plans are fixed around voice, and a dropped call is more likely than a retry on sms or download. Missing 1-2 seconds of a call is more noticeble than a lag on surfing/downloading, especially during handoffs. I'd still like to see Los Angeles area umts through.



Posted by: DRC72

Quote:
Originally Posted by shortyd999
Wirelessly posted (LG-CU500 Obigo/WAP2.0 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 UP.Link/6.3.0.0.0)

OMG im postiog this WHILE talking on the phone at the same time! Its much cooler to do than just talking about it!


Oh Man!!! I can't wait to test out 3G on my LG cu500 when it hits CT.



Posted by: shortyd999

Wirelessly posted (LG-CU500 Obigo/WAP2.0 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 UP.Link/6.3.0.0.0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by DRC72
Quote:
Originally Posted by shortyd999
Wirelessly posted (LG-CU500 Obigo/WAP2.0 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 UP.Link/6.3.0.0.0)

OMG im postiog this WHILE talking on the phone at the same time! Its much cooler to do than just talking about it!


Oh Man!!! I can't wait to test out 3G on my LG cu500 when it hits CT.


You`re gonna love it!



Posted by: ilvla2

I can't wait for it here either! Edge Wireless, Cingular's Affiliate is working on it, I hope to see some next summer



Posted by: DRC72

Quote:
Originally Posted by ilvla2
I can't wait for it here either! Edge Wireless, Cingular's Affiliate is working on it, I hope to see some next summer


Next summer is a long way off.



Posted by: ilvla2

Not really Verizon should have EVDO here by next summer or fall too, you just gotta be a little more patient with getting hi-tech here than in the dense urban areas, I know though, it would be a long time for an area like you live in. I didn't even get broadband until 2002, when Adelphia (now Comcast here) launched cable modem service.

Speaking of EVDO, US Cellular is launching it next year in select locations, I don't know when they'll bring it to this market though. I've waited this long, I guess I can wait a little longer lol



Posted by: DRC72

My 3G indicator should turn on anytime now. October is the target date for Hartford, but I heard it might be pushed back slightly.



Posted by: ilvla2

Right on, I bet you are getting stoked! I still need to get a 3G UMTS PDA or phone, I have EVDO on my v3m, but my SDA and MDA only do EDGE.



Posted by: DRC72

Quote:
Originally Posted by ilvla2
Right on, I bet you are getting stoked! I still need to get a 3G UMTS PDA or phone, I have EVDO on my v3m, but my SDA and MDA only do EDGE.


I'm ready for it dude. I suffered with GPRS/EDGE speeds long enough.



Posted by: ilvla2

Yeah, I hear ya, while EDGE is okay, I really notice the slowness when I go from WiFi to EDGE on my MDA or SDA, it's like going from broadband to kinda fast dial up

OT Oh, I didn't kill your signed Sir Beavis photo off, I was messing around with my sig, and deleted the link and can't find it now



Posted by: pcmike

Quote:
Originally Posted by jonathanlord
3G in Miami is now on !!


Can anyone confirm 3G in the WPB area?



Posted by: shortyd999

The 3G network must be only on 1900 right now because at my house I only get 2-3 bars on UMTS but when I was on GSM/EDGE, I had five bars. Although 1-2 bars on UMTS works a whole lot better that 1-2 bars on GSM



Posted by: hatoncat

GSM and UMTS are measured differently... you can't compare GSM bars to CDMA/W-CDMA bars, due to pure dbm, and other factors... A Sprint and Cingular phone would report different bars when talking to the exact same tower.



Posted by: DRC72

Quote:
Originally Posted by ilvla2
Yeah, I hear ya, while EDGE is okay, I really notice the slowness when I go from WiFi to EDGE on my MDA or SDA, it's like going from broadband to kinda fast dial up

OT Oh, I didn't kill your signed Sir Beavis photo off, I was messing around with my sig, and deleted the link and can't find it now


LOL! Don't worry about it.



Posted by: cingular#1

Quote:
Originally Posted by cingular#1
Just Got and Update!!!!

Birmingham has been set for Mid October.......

Quote:
Originally Posted by shortyd999
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My phone says 3G!!!!!! Birmingham is online! Its fast too! yay!!




[/QUOTE]

hey shortyd999, im i good or what. Expect official launch in about 2 weeks.

DRC72 you may have to wait longer than expected..sorry



Posted by: Captain_Eric

Quote:
Originally Posted by hatoncat
GSM and UMTS are measured differently... you can't compare GSM bars to CDMA/W-CDMA bars, due to pure dbm, and other factors... A Sprint and Cingular phone would report different bars when talking to the exact same tower.


Just curious: how is it different? Does one always show more bars? Does it flucuate, if so why?



Posted by: DRC72

Quote:
Originally Posted by cingular#1
DRC72 you may have to wait longer than expected..sorry

I'm not surprized, but I would rather have it done right anyways. The wait continues!!!



Posted by: pcmike

Cingular #1,

Can you comment on 3G in WPB? It's been reported that its active down in MIA, and from what I heard locally its been installed and been tested in the WPB for some time now. Any idea if its open to customers now? Some zipcodes for you: 33401, 33463 (incase you have access to some maps we dont).

Thanks for any information.



Posted by: hatoncat

Quote:
Originally Posted by Captain_Eric
Just curious: how is it different? Does one always show more bars? Does it flucuate, if so why?


Each can appear stronger than the other from time to time. CDMA has a breathing effect that affects reception, and dbm is sampled differently. Essentially, two bars on W-CDMA can be more effective than four on GSM...



Posted by: cyberenz

Well, today Sept. 30, 2006, my trusty TyTN tells me that UMTS is alive and working in S. Florida, Ft. Lauderdale, to be exact. Calls and Internet access go through what the phone reports as UMTS Cingular. Speeds are incredible using Internet and Email. Voice is still the same. That's my 2 cents.



Posted by: eej2580

just noticed 3G icon on CU500 yesterday, tested speed on cnet's bandwidth meter: 555.3 kbps! watching Cingular Video is crazy fast.



Posted by: garyg2k

3G is now available in Birmingham, AL.

Just got home from the Cingular store in Trussville, AL on Gadsden Hwy. I picked up a LG CU500, since it's the only 3G phone being sold as of 9/30/2006. Props to my sales rep, Lane, he actually what he was talking about. In fact, today marks the first time in a very long time that I walked out of a Cingular store without the feeling that I knew more than anyone working there. Lane told me that they just finished upgrading the towers yesterday.



Posted by: pcmike

UGH.. drive up to WPB PLEASE! I really want to know if 3G is working around here so I can decide on buying a TyTn or not!

Quote:
Originally Posted by cyberenz
Well, today Sept. 30, 2006, my trusty TyTN tells me that UMTS is alive and working in S. Florida, Ft. Lauderdale, to be exact. Calls and Internet access go through what the phone reports as UMTS Cingular. Speeds are incredible using Internet and Email. Voice is still the same. That's my 2 cents.




Posted by: aadadams

As the title indicates the switch must have been flipped today sometime. Performed the speed test and consistently got about 650kbps on www.dslreports.com/mspeed.



Posted by: enigma99a

Sacramento market launched offically.



Posted by: shortyd999

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Quote:
Originally Posted by cingular#1
Quote:
Originally Posted by cingular#1
Just Got and Update!!!!



Birmingham has been set for Mid October.......



Quote:
Originally Posted by shortyd999
My phone says 3G!!!!!! Birmingham is online! Its fast too! yay!!












hey shortyd999, im i good or what. Expect official launch in about 2 weeks.



DRC72 you may have to wait longer than expected..sorry [/QUOTE]

U are good. I just stop by the store and they had a board that said 3G is now available and they had the LG CU 500 for sale.



Posted by: tminutes

Quote:
Originally Posted by pcmike
Cingular #1,

Can you comment on 3G in WPB? It's been reported that its active down in MIA, and from what I heard locally its been installed and been tested in the WPB for some time now. Any idea if its open to customers now? Some zipcodes for you: 33401, 33463 (incase you have access to some maps we dont).

Thanks for any information.

Idon't know about being tested for sometimebut I did notice yesterday that my cu320 showed "3G" instead of "G" bythe bars. so i played a play house disney episode (laugh it up ,but itcomes in handy) and noticed a BIG difference usually there was a lot of buffering in the middle of the video,but not thistime. So far I haven't noticed a call quality difference but definitely in the video and email. I do not have a 3G sim-just a 64k.Sorry for typos OR format errors- I. am using my axim LOL



Posted by: Bpt_Flames

Quote:
Originally Posted by DRC72
I'm not surprized, but I would rather have it done right anyways. The wait continues!!!



So whats the new launch date for CT, it would suck if they messed up and we need to wait another month, waiting for it to turn on is a bit#%.



Posted by: ilvla2

Quote:
Originally Posted by enigma99a
Sacramento market launched offically.


When did they announce it? I still don't see it on the availability page

http://www.cingular.com/media/cingu...eo_availability



Posted by: Havoc21

anyone know if the lauderdale area covers pompano as well?



Posted by: pcmike

Where are you located?

Thanks

Quote:
Originally Posted by tminutes
Idon't know about being tested for sometimebut I did notice yesterday that my cu320 showed "3G" instead of "G" bythe bars. so i played a play house disney episode (laugh it up ,but itcomes in handy) and noticed a BIG difference usually there was a lot of buffering in the middle of the video,but not thistime. So far I haven't noticed a call quality difference but definitely in the video and email. I do not have a 3G sim-just a 64k.Sorry for typos OR format errors- I. am using my axim LOL




Posted by: enigma99a

Quote:
Originally Posted by ilvla2
When did they announce it? I still don't see it on the availability page

http://www.cingular.com/media/cingu...eo_availability


Never seen that page, I just know what's going on in the switch.

It took a while to launch because of E911 issues but those were worked out and Ericsson got the job done.



Posted by: Havoc21

Quote:
Originally Posted by ilvla2
When did they announce it? I still don't see it on the availability page

http://www.cingular.com/media/cingu...eo_availability
I honestly think that Cingular has forgotten about that page.



Posted by: iamthedudeman

Quote:
Originally Posted by Havoc21
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i dont think the current setup has it going that far. i will check this weekend.


How about clearwater. I have it right across the causway, but thats it.

You would think that the whole St.pete,Tampa,Clearwater area would be 3g as this the second largest metro area in florida. And Pinellas county is the most populated.


Tampa-St. Petersburg-Clearwater, Florida, Pop:2,589,637



Posted by: Havoc21

No sign of 3g life in St. Pete or ClearH20 yet...

It does however extend to the extreme western side of Brandon (dies out at about I-75 on the Crosstown)



Posted by: Its_Smee

Quote:
Originally Posted by drakmog
REGARDING CLEVELAND 3G COVERAGE + SPEED TESTS!
(Topics covered: East and Westside, And SPEED TESTS)


COVERAGE:
Well I live near Mayfield Heights (I live in Gates Mills) there is no coverage in Mayfield Heights, but if you take 271 South from Mayfield Exit (toward Beachwood) you pickup coverage immediately, and 3G coverage remains full bars all the way through 271 SOUTH of Mayfield and then all the way through 480 going West, the furthest I have taken it is out to Parma (RIDGE ROAD EXIT) and getting full bars the whole way on 271 and 480, I have Very GOOD 3G Coverage Past Ridge Rd. & Snow Rd. and have only gone to About 1 Mile Before Parma Mall, But it works Really Well throughout Parma.

As for the East Side, Beachwood works fully, Cleveland Heights, The Cell @ Richmond Mall is 3g So Coverage is anywhere on Wilson Mills Rd. WEST of Brainard (It just drops out after you cross Brainard on WilsonMills Rd. Going East) Works into South Euclid and west toward Cleveland, and then works on 90 But not until after 260th Street Exit (90 West going toward Cleveland).

SPEEDS:


As For SPEEDS, I tried to Test them with the Handset (LG CU500), but I was getting Errors, So I hooked it up to my MacBook Pro via Bluetooth and Was getting Average Download Speeds of 740 kbps (85.0 kb/s) and UPLOAD SPEEDS Averaging 350 (42.0 kb/s) I Tried speedtests on NYC.SPEAKEASY.NET, FTP TESTS WITH MY WEBSERVER, and Bandwidthplace.com/speedtest all the results were uniform and my FTP tests bursted to 98.0 kb/s (ALMOST A MEGABIT!!!!) and all this through bluetooth v1.2


ONE REALLY WEIRD THING w/ 3G COVERAGE on THE EAST SIDE of CLEVELAND, OHIO
PLEASE READ and Respond if you can TEST this or HAVE E