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AT&T 3G Rollout - Latest markets launching
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Posted by: forecheck

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Originally Posted by tealnet

3G in Sacramento, CA is hot!!! YAY!! Only tested in South and North Sac but I'll be all over tomorrow and I'll see how far out it goes.

I have had 3G since I returned home Friday night. This weekend I was in Folsom, Fair Oaks, Roseville, and Citrus Heights and had 3G everywhere I went.

Posted by: formercanuck

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Originally Posted by ilvla2

I wouldn't exactly call Cingular's rate of 3G in CA hot, but it's getting a bit warmer anyway

Verizon's rate is a lot hotter, Bakersfield, Fresno, Stockton, Visalia, Corcoran, Modesto, Redding, Anderson, Red Bluff, Chico, Oroville, Yuba City and Marysville (and many of the areas in between, mostly farms and small towns) all going live very soon. Cingular's Affiliate here, Edge Wireless will have 3G (UMTS) on soon as well, so things are looking up for those of us in their markets (CA,OR,ID,WY).

Its still cold here in Los Angeles

Posted by: exchguy

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Originally Posted by formercanuck

Its still cold here in Los Angeles

Same thing here in Denver. It sounds like that the transition to 3G requires a lot more spectrum to be consumed than before, so possibly the reason for slow rollouts to some key markets like LA, Denver and others are because Cingular has not had the necessary spectrum required to make the transitions.

I think Verizon and Sprint have not had to do as much rework on a CDMA system to implement EVDO and that's why they are a lot further ahead than Cingular in the rollout of high speed data.

Posted by: formercanuck

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Originally Posted by exchguy

Yes... that's part of it.
UMTS requirements = 5 MHz paired of clean spectrum for BOTH voice and data
EVDO requirements = 1.25 MHz paired for clean spectrum for ONLY data. Voice uses 1x.

Personally, I think L.A.'s upgrade is slow, as they required a ton of new sites to be built for GSM alone. AT&TWS has a fairly sparce network in So. Cal, and sliced up 850/1900 didn't _really_ help much. Buildout was required just to give some areas decent coverage.
Having Cingular's + AT&TWS customers on that site really puts the test on how well an 850/1900 network would work (or lack there of). 850 gets saturated, and some overflow (when it works) hits 1900. I select 1900 MHz only on my ZX-20 just to not have to deal with a crowded 850 and excessive handoffs. Los Angeles market is quite large, but they _should_ be not that far behind. I suspect that So Cal, in general is one of Cingular's largest markets (outside of NYC), but is spread out quite a bit. Since I have seen the 'newer' cell panels out for about a year in most places, with a few monopoles upgraded recently, I can only suspect that its still being worked on. In typical fashion, as this is both voice and data, I suspect a fairly large deployment when it goes live, otherwise it will be handoff city for those with 3G phones.

Posted by: tminutes

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Originally Posted by pcmike

Where are you located?

Thanks

West Palm Beach...sorry for not stating that in my original post (I actually had written that post three times, but kept messing up w/the axim---hitting the 'refresh' button and losing all my work LOL)

Posted by: amheck

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Originally Posted by iamthedudeman

How about clearwater. I have it right across the causway, but thats it.

You would think that the whole St.pete,Tampa,Clearwater area would be 3g as this the second largest metro area in florida. And Pinellas county is the most populated.

Tampa-St. Petersburg-Clearwater, Florida, Pop:2,589,637

Store mgr of one of the St. Pete stores told me Oct 15th was the date he heard. So we'll see.....I want to pick up a new phone, maybe the new Nokia E62, but lack of 3g makes me a little nervous.

Posted by: lostinphotoland

any updates on St. Louis? NPA's 314 and 636.

I was out around town and didn't notice any new panels on the sites here, but I did happen to notice a black Ericsson van-type vehicle at a local hotel. I believe it said "mobile demonstration unit" on the side of it. I was just riding in the car and only got a glance...sorry

none-the-less...i've been on pre-paid holding off for 3g (no reason to get locked into a contract if i just moved here). Are we getting close or does it look like we'll be delayed for a few months.

Last note I saw was Sept/October timeframe.

Posted by: pcmike

Hate to pry, but where exactly in WPB and how extensively have you travelled in the area? Have you been in Boynton Beach, Lake Worth, Boca, etc? If so have you had 3G signal there? Have you tried doing any speed tests or anything? This is awesome news! Now I just need to decide whether to wait for the 8525 or get a Tytn. Thanks for any information!

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Originally Posted by tminutes

Posted by: outz

Anyone know when Greenville, SC 3G will launch?

Posted by: ilvla2

The big cities are losing out on this? Now that's a switch

Posted by: formercanuck

Personally, I'd laugh my a$$ off if Cingular doesn't have umts live in Los Angeles county by the end of the year. I do believe that Cingular stated they'd have the top 100 markets live in 2006.

Posted by: ilvla2

El Nino is coming too, they better get their rain gear out

Rain likely (snow at the highest elevations) up here Tue, Wed and Thur, it's gonna be a bumpy ride this winter (it's already starting here, trees and vineyards turning colors, Poison Oak in full color, COLD nightime and daytime temps)

Posted by: exchguy

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Originally Posted by formercanuck

Personally, I'd laugh my a$$ off if Cingular doesn't have umts live in Los Angeles county by the end of the year. I do believe that Cingular stated they'd have the top 100 markets live in 2006.

I could believe it. For it already being October, they've still got a LONG ways to go if they expect to get top 100 markets by the end of the year.

They are still missing lots of the key markets with many that do not even have any mention of even testing. The sad reality is that by the time Cingular meets this goal (mid-end of 2007), the boys and Sprint and Verizon will have Evdo-rev a out there streaming HDTV video, while many of us are still limping along on EDGE!

Cingular/ATTWS had years to get this upgrade going and they are still way behind the ball. Its been said before that Cingular is more interested in provide voice service in rural parts of the country to say they are the biggest, instead of providing more advanced capabilities in shorter order.

Posted by: formercanuck

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Originally Posted by ilvla2

El Nino is coming too, they better get their rain gear out

It never gets _really_ cold in most of California. A little wet, maybe. A little snow in the hills, sure.

Also...

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Along with funding integration, Cingular is currently deploying its 3G UMTS/HSDPA (Universal Mobile Telephone System/High Speed Downlink Packet Access) network throughout the country. The 3G service, which offers mobile wireless broadband connections averaging 400-700 kilobits per second (Kbps), is available in 105 markets (populations of 100 thousand or more) in and around 44 major metropolitan cities. Customers can use the 3G connections to access e-mail and information services or watch streaming video clips from some of their favorite entertainment outlets using Cingular Video.

Not sure which 105 markets specifically, but I can say that they aren't the top 105 markets.

Posted by: tsdevine

Got the 3G symbol near Hummelstown (Harrisburg) Pennsylvania today.....couldn't make an outgoing call though. Need to play around a little more, but that seems promising.

-Tim

Posted by: aadadams

I had the outgoing call problem yesterday. The strange thing was that I could call landlines, but I could not get through to other Cingular customers. I tried the same people from my office and got through immediately.

Posted by: enigma99a

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Originally Posted by formercanuck

Its still cold here in Los Angeles

Yeah, LA won't be live until December. Just a little longer!

Posted by: formercanuck

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Originally Posted by enigma99a

Yeah, LA won't be live until December. Just a little longer!

Any idea on how large of an area the LA 3G rollout will be ?

Posted by: tminutes

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Originally Posted by pcmike

Hate to pry, but where exactly in WPB and how extensively have you travelled in the area? Have you been in Boynton Beach, Lake Worth, Boca, etc? If so have you had 3G signal there? Have you tried doing any speed tests or anything? This is awesome news! Now I just need to decide whether to wait for the 8525 or get a Tytn. Thanks for any information!

So far anywhere I've gone it still says '3 G'---Palm Beach Gardens, West Palm, Lake Clarke Shores and Wellington/Royal Palm. I'm going to Boynton next week--can let you know what it says then LOL.

I haven't done speed tests simply cause I don't know where to go...now now, don't shoot me

Hope this helps!

Posted by: bradbradstreet

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Originally Posted by tminutes

Hope this helps!

I use the Vonage speed test because it gives both download and upload speeds. It is at https://www.vonage.com/help.php?art...tegory=73&nav=6

A sample output I got the other day with 3G in Durham NC is:

Posted by: pcmike

Haha, I wouldn't dare shoot the messenger. Thanks for keeping me updated. I think the standard page most people goto for speed testing is http://www.dslreports.com/mspeed. However, I could be wrong so someone else feel free to jump in here.

Your results on the 1MB test would be great as well as any other tests you come across that exceed 1MB.

Thanks!

EDIT: Just saw the post above mine, please use that test (the Vonage one)!

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Originally Posted by tminutes

Hope this helps!

Posted by: tminutes

I either don't know what I am doing or am a dork. I went to the vonage site and it doesn't load the whole page---I don't get the nice graph shown in the previous post. I went to the dslreports one and if I select 50k it says it's 'unstable please choose larger file'...if I choose the 100k or above it says that 'this page is too large to be shown'.

I don't know if its cause I only have a 64k sim card and not the 3G one.

Posted by: pcmike

What phone are you using?

Posted by: tminutes

LG Cu320

Posted by: pcmike

Are you able to tether it to your laptop and run a test that way? (It'll be limited by Bluetooth, but still)

Posted by: tminutes

I haven't gotten that technical with my phone yet. I've only had it for almost 2 months.

Posted by: 100thMonkey

Man, I just want more coverage in NYC metro area....I wish that someone knew some deets on Cingy's expansion plans

Posted by: Omega2008

Does anybody know when Cingular will be rolling out 3G in Tampa, Florida? Or even in Florida? I would think that they would have already, once they do and I deem it something that can replace my cable internet access, its game over for RoadRunner.

Posted by: Havoc21

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Originally Posted by tminutes

I haven't gotten that technical with my phone yet. I've only had it for almost 2 months.

Well, you would think that after two months your phone would allow you to get to third base... get that data cable (or bluetooth) and git-r-done!

On a serious note:

Did a speed test via surrealnetworks.net through opera mini, I was inside Disney Quest in Orlando pulling in 1.79 mps.
Is this a realistic speed, or was it thrown off due to me using opera mini?

Posted by: Havoc21

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Originally Posted by Omega2008

Does anybody know when Cingular will be rolling out 3G in Tampa, Florida? Or even in Florida? I would think that they would have already, once they do and I deem it something that can replace my cable internet access, its game over for RoadRunner.

already here, along with orlando and miami

tampa runs from the other side of the causeway to i75 in brandon area, not sure how far it runs north and south

Posted by: formercanuck

Does anyone have the list of top 100 markets? I'm curious to see how many are left.

Posted by: bradbradstreet

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Originally Posted by Havoc21

I use the Vonage speed test as my standard test - laptop - wireless - cable connected - 3G. When on EDGE I was getting 120-130Kbps downloads if i have a solid connection. Normally on 3G I am seeing 650-750Kbps with an odd 800Kbps. The other day I had a couple of very fast 1Mbps and over tests.

By going to one place over time I have an idea of what is the norm for me.

1.79Mbps sounds very high based on my experience in the Boston, Baltimore, DC, Akron and Raleigh 3G areas.

Posted by: enigma99a

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Originally Posted by formercanuck

Any idea on how large of an area the LA 3G rollout will be ?

Los Angeles, Anaheim and Riverside will launch at the same time.

Posted by: skertes

I still can't believe that here in the New York metro area, probably THE # 1 market, Cingular has not made the expansion of it's 3G coverage a priority. They only have 10% of NYC covered, and nothing in Queens, Brooklyn, Long Island, Westchester, New Jersey or any of the other surrounding areas. I know, I know, patience is a virtue and good things come to those who wait, but with Verizon and Sprint soooooo far ahead of Cingular I can't imagine that many people willing to wait. Both Verizon and Sprint rolled out EVDO so quickly around here that it's really making Cingular look bad.

In the meantime, no corporate store around here should be able to show/sell any 3G phone without the coverage in place to support it.

Posted by: formercanuck

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Originally Posted by enigma99a

Los Angeles, Anaheim and Riverside will launch at the same time.

What about areas like San Fernando Valley (technically Los Angeles), Pasadena, Simi Valley, West Lake Village, Santa Clarita, Palmdale, Camarillo, Santa Barbara ?

Quote:

I still can't believe that here in the New York metro area, probably THE # 1 market, Cingular has not made the expansion of it's 3G coverage a priority. They only have 10% of NYC covered, and nothing in Queens, Brooklyn, Long Island, Westchester, New Jersey or any of the other surrounding areas. I know, I know, patience is a virtue and good things come to those who wait, but with Verizon and Sprint soooooo far ahead of Cingular I can't imagine that many people willing to wait. Both Verizon and Sprint rolled out EVDO so quickly around here that it's really making Cingular look bad.

Hey, at least NYC has 3G. Probably what's considered the #2 market (Los Angeles/Orange County) doesn't have any.

Posted by: Mashie

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Originally Posted by skertes

Hey, be glad you have HSPDA in at least 10%. They won't be rolling 3G here until August of 2007!! Sad for a pretty big metro area

Posted by: Bacco

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Originally Posted by skertes

skertes, the entire island of Manhattan is covered as well as some of the Bronx and Brooklyn bordering the island. As for NJ, there are parts there that are covered. Westchester too.

Posted by: skertes

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Originally Posted by Bacco

skertes, the entire island of Manhattan is covered as well as some of the Bronx and Brooklyn bordering the island. As for NJ, there are parts there that are covered. Westchester too.

Show me where on the Cingular coverage maps you are seeing the whole island of Manhattan covered. Unless the maps are completely inaccurate, they are only showing a portion of downtown covered. Midtown and up are all empty. So is 90% of Long Isand and 90% of New Jersey.

Posted by: aadadams

Speaking from an area that is not reporting any coverage I would say that the maps are way behind. We have coverage all over metro Baton Rouge LA, and have had it for several days. Several other areas that are not on the map are alos experiencing 3G. The official launches have not occured in a number of places because they are still tweaking the coverage, I suspect.

Posted by: Bacco

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Originally Posted by skertes

Dude, you're looking at a map as of 8/31...I can tell you that with my phone I get UMTS Cingular throughout Manhattan and in Brooklyn.

But hey, don't take my word for it. You have a TyTN, don't you?

Posted by: skertes

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Originally Posted by Bacco

Dude, you're looking at a map as of 8/31...I can tell you that with my phone I get UMTS Cingular throughout Manhattan and in Brooklyn.

But hey, don't take my word for it. You have a TyTN, don't you?

I do have a TyTn as a matter of fact, but 99% of my time is spent in Nassau County, Long Island. There is ZERO 3G coverage anywhere along my normal travels. Haven't been to the city in a while, so I've been relying on the Cingular coverage maps in the hopes that they would be updated as coverage was added.

Posted by: Bacco

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Originally Posted by skertes

No problem dude...if you trust your fellow posters here, try this link out.

Posted by: skertes

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Originally Posted by Bacco

No problem dude...if you trust your fellow posters here, try this link out.

Wow, that map is pretty cool! You know, I didn't even notice when looking at the official Cingular map that it says "last updated August 31st". I guess I've just been going by my own observations, that 3G does not exist anywhere around me, and then assumed that my experience was in line with their maps. According to the great "frappr" map, it seems that some have indeed experienced 3G closer to me than expected. Hopefully the balance of my area will be blanketed soon!

Thanks for the link!

Posted by: Bacco

It's my pleasure to share what little I have

Hopefully you'll be experiencing 3G soon yourself.

Posted by: exchguy

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Originally Posted by formercanuck

Does anyone have the list of top 100 markets? I'm curious to see how many are left.

Check out this attachment from the FCC. It shows CMA (Cellular Market Area) and numbers:
http://wireless.fcc.gov/auctions/66/fcc06-47-Att-A2.xls

The biggiest that I can see where Cingular doesn't have anything is LA (#2), Pitt (not sure if they are live yet), Miami, Minneapolis, San Diego, Denver

Posted by: FungFlex

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Originally Posted by skertes

I feel I am going to have to dissagree here, when I pull up my CSP map tool all of downtown Manhattan is lit up, and Ive tested it, in the China Town/Little Italy with my cu320. I live in Northern NJ, and my entire county is lit up 3g, and it works in my house and where I work fairly well. Also I havent experience the dropped calls I would have expected to during the UMTS to GSM handoffs. So I have to beg to differ and I say more 3g in more stores

Posted by: formercanuck

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Originally Posted by exchguy

San Diego was one of the original markets back in the AT&TWS days even
I think people have said that Miami is up.. but doesn't look like anything official yet. Haven't heard anything on Minneapolis or Denver.
Thanks for the link.

Update this as you see it/know it. This is only going on what I can see through the forums, web site and releases.

Code:


CMA001	 New York-Newark, NY-NJ 	16,134,166	3G
CMA002	 Los Angeles-Anaheim, CA 	15,620,448	
CMA003	 Chicago, IL 	                 8,091,720	3G
CMA004	 Philadelphia, PA 	         5,036,646	3G
CMA005	 Detroit-Ann Arbor, MI 	         4,775,452	3G ?
CMA006	 Boston-Brockton-Lowell, MA-NH 	 4,279,111	3G
CMA007	 San Francisco-Oakland, CA 	 4,123,740	3G
CMA008	 Washington, DC-MD-VA 	         4,182,658	3G
CMA009	 Dallas-Fort Worth, TX 	         5,120,721	3G
CMA010	 Houston, TX 	                 4,393,382	3G
CMA011	 St. Louis, MO-IL 	         2,518,470	
CMA012	 Miami-Fort Lauderdale, FL 	 3,876,380	3G ?
CMA013	 Pittsburgh, PA 	         2,035,968	
CMA014	 Baltimore, MD 	                 2,512,431	3G ?
CMA015	 Minneapolis-St. Paul, MN-WI 	 2,836,298	
CMA016	 Cleveland, OH 	                 1,863,479	3G
CMA017	 Atlanta, GA 	                 3,751,674	3G
CMA018	 San Diego, CA 	                 2,813,833	3G
CMA019	 Denver-Boulder, CO         	 2,405,327	
CMA020	 Seattle-Everett, WA          	 2,343,058	3G
CMA021	 Milwaukee, WI          	 1,500,741	
CMA022	 Tampa-St. Petersburg, FL 	 2,265,195	3G ?
CMA023	 Cincinnati, OH-KY-IN      	 1,553,843	
CMA024	 Kansas City, MO-KS        	 1,627,081	
CMA025	 Buffalo, NY                   	 1,170,111	
CMA026	 Phoenix, AZ                   	 3,072,149	3G
CMA027	 San Jose, CA             	 1,682,585	3G
CMA028	 Indianapolis, IN            	 1,474,128	3G
CMA029	 New Orleans, LA        	 1,198,637	
CMA030	 Portland, OR-WA          	 1,789,457	3G
CMA031	 Columbus, OH                	 1,394,666	3G
CMA032	 Hartford-Bristol, CT       	 1,148,618	
CMA033	 San Antonio, TX         	 1,559,975	3G
CMA034	 Rochester, NY          	 1,037,831	
CMA035	 Sacramento, CA         	 1,640,558	3G ?
CMA036	 Memphis, TN-AR-MS      	 1,106,808	
CMA037	 Louisville, KY-IN             	   968,313	
CMA038	 Providence-Warwick, RI 	   962,886	
CMA039	 Salt Lake City-Ogden, UT 	 1,374,649	3G
CMA040	 Dayton, OH             	   848,153	
CMA041	 Birmingham, AL         	   940,795	
CMA042	 Bridgeport-Stamford-Danbury CT    882,567	
CMA043	 Norfolk-Virginia Beach, VA-NC 	 1,041,276	
CMA044	 Albany-Schenectady-Troy, NY 	   844,001	
CMA045	 Oklahoma City, OK             	 1,049,422	
CMA046	 Nashville-Davidson, TN 	 1,231,311	
CMA047	 Greensboro-Winston-Salem, NC  	 1,085,874	
CMA048	 Toledo, OH-MI                 	   805,133	3G
CMA049	 New Haven-Waterbury-Meriden CT	   824,008	3G
CMA050	 Honolulu, HI                  	   876,156	
CMA051	 Jacksonville, FL              	 1,122,750	3G ?
CMA052	 Akron, OH                     	   694,960	3G ?
CMA053	 Syracuse, NY                  	   650,154	
CMA054	 Gary-Hammond-East Chicago, IN 	   631,362	3G
CMA055	 Worchester-Leominster, MA 	   750,963	
CMA056	 Northeast Pennsylvania, PA 	   671,232	
CMA057	 Tulsa, OK              	   841,604	
CMA058	 Allentown-Bethlehem, PA-NJ 	   740,395	3G
CMA059	 Richmond, VA           	   865,941	
CMA060	 Orlando, FL            	 1,434,033	3G ?
CMA061	 Charlotte-Gastonia, NC 	 1,009,496	3G
CMA062	 New Brunswick-Perth Amboy, NJ 	   750,162	
CMA063	 Springfield-Holyoke, MA 	   608,479	3G
CMA064	 Grand Rapids, MI       	   812,649	
CMA065	 Omaha, NE-IA           	   673,884	
CMA066	 Youngstown-Warren, OH  	   482,671	
CMA067	 Greenville-Spartanburg, SC 	   744,164	
CMA068	 Flint, MI                  	   507,828	
CMA069	 Wilmington, DE-NJ-MD   	   650,501	
CMA070	 Long Branch-Asbury Park, NJ 	   615,301	
CMA071	 Raleigh-Durham, NC     	   969,387	3G
CMA072	 West Palm Beach-Boca Raton, FL  1,131,184	3G ?
CMA073	 Oxnard-Simi Valley-Ventura, CA    753,197	
CMA074	 Fresno, CA             	   799,407	3G ?
CMA075	 Austin, TX             	 1,159,836	3G
CMA076	 New Bedford-Fall River, MA 	   534,678	
CMA077	 Tucson, AZ             	   843,746	3G
CMA078	 Lansing-East Lansing, MI 	   509,246	
CMA079	 Knoxville, TN            	   576,993	
CMA080	 Baton Rouge, LA        	   602,894	
CMA081	 El Paso, TX            	   679,622	
CMA082	 Tacoma, WA             	   700,820	3G
CMA083	 Mobile, AL             	   540,258	
CMA084	 Harrisburg, PA         	   509,074	
CMA085	 Johnson City-Kingsport, TN-VA 	   480,091	
CMA086	 Albuquerque, NM        	   646,586	
CMA087	 Canton, OH             	   406,934	
CMA088	 Chattanooga, TN-GA     	   476,531	
CMA089	 Wichita, KS            	   512,351	
CMA090	 Charleston, SC         	   549,033	
CMA091	 San Juan-Caguas, PR    	 2,176,135	
CMA092	 Little Rock, AR        	   583,845	3G
CMA093	 Las Vegas, NV          	 1,375,765	3G
CMA094	 Saginaw-Bay City-Midland, MI 	   403,070	
CMA095	 Columbia, SC           	   536,691	
CMA096	 Fort Wayne, IN         	   464,066	
CMA097	 Bakersfield, CA        	   661,645	3G ?
CMA098	 Davenport-Rock Island, IA-IL 	   359,062	
CMA099	 York, PA               	   473,043	
CMA100	 Shreveport, LA         	   392,302

Posted by: nigglesnsf

I'm from jersey city, nj...

I went to the local cingular in my city and they said 3G is up and running, can anyone confirm?

Posted by: 100thMonkey

yup, its running in Jersey City

Posted by: Omega2008

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Originally Posted by Havoc21

already here, along with orlando and miami

tampa runs from the other side of the causeway to i75 in brandon area, not sure how far it runs north and south

Really! I had no clue.....is there a map or anything that could show how far its reach is? If it is really here in Tampa, then my day has finally come free from the cable!

Anyone else in the Tampa area care to comment on where you are getting 3G access?

Posted by: amheck

Quote:

Originally Posted by Omega2008

Really! I had no clue.....is there a map or anything that could show how far its reach is? If it is really here in Tampa, then my day has finally come free from the cable!

Anyone else in the Tampa area care to comment on where you are getting 3G access?

I was in the Cingular store by the Citrus Park mall today over lunch and asked if 3g will reach to St. Pete (where we are moving) and the guy told me it works everywhere in this area, and stops around Ft. Meyers.

FWIW.....

Posted by: Omega2008

Thats good to hear, its not offical on Cingulars site nor the Broadband coverage maps as of yet.

Posted by: Havoc21

Quote:

Originally Posted by amheck

the dude is full of it, 3g is not in st pete yet (unless it was not active when i went yesterday)

and as far as it extending all the way to ft meyers.... yeah edge goes that far, 3g... not yet

Posted by: Omega2008

I am talking about UMTS/HSDPA not EDGE. No matter, I will get a hold of a UMTS handset and use it around the bay area and see if I pick up anything.

Posted by: iamthedudeman

Quote:

Originally Posted by Omega2008

I am talking about UMTS/HSDPA not EDGE. No matter, I will get a hold of a UMTS handset and use it around the bay area and see if I pick up anything.

Its in Tampa now. I live right across the causway on Drew street and I get 3g here in Clearwater off and on throught out the day. Never always on. I work in Dunedin and don't have it there. So I am guessing they are working on it here in Clearwater and certainly would have it in St Pete before Clearwater. Since this the second largest metropolitian area in Florida, I would suspect the whole area will have it and not just Tampa.

Posted by: guapinoy

sucks that tampa has it before jax. i guess maybe it's worth a trip to go visit my parents just to see if the cu500 can pick up the 3g!!! Go Bucs/Jags!!!

Posted by: Omega2008

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Originally Posted by iamthedudeman

Thats good to know, thanks for the info.

Posted by: tminutes

I noticed yesterday that several of my calls were being dropped and my network would change to "G" from "3G" on my CU320.

Today there is no more 3G on my phone

guess they are just testing and working out kinks? At any rate, obviously not a reliable availability right now.

Posted by: tminutes

Quote:

Originally Posted by Havoc21

Well, you would think that after two months your phone would allow you to get to third base... get that data cable (or bluetooth) and git-r-done!

Heehee...the only reason I got this phone was I broke the screen my SE z520A. Dropped it too much and had lines going across the top half of the phone. I had to practically beg hubby to let me buy a new phone (considering I had only had the SE for 5 months or so).....baby steps...got the phone...got him to agree to add the unlimited media plan....data cable is down the road

Of course, right now it doesn't matter, since "3G" disappeared for me

Posted by: chadbaby

I was driving through Oregon today and I realized that I had a U! The weird part is that I was in a small town called Canyonville and the only thing here is an Indian casino. There are only about 5,000 people that live there and the U was gone in about five minutes of driving. I found this odd because I couldn’t get 3g in Salem (the capitol) or even Eugene, which are the second and third largest cities. Anyway, 3g might be moving its way south of Portland soon.

Posted by: player911

I live in Cincinnati, OH and awaiting the 3G service. I see on that listing above that its not quite here yet. I wonder what the hold up is? We got EDGE pretty fast.

I gotta keep up on it because I disabled my 3G on my Cu500 for stability because it kept dropping calls and missing SMS messages. So once it goes 3G I'll have to enable it again.

Posted by: ScruffyGuy

How can I tell when Pittsburgh, PA is going to get the 3G?

Thanks
Tom

Quote:

Originally Posted by formercanuck

Code:


CMA001	 New York-Newark, NY-NJ 	16,134,166	3G
CMA002	 Los Angeles-Anaheim, CA 	15,620,448	
CMA003	 Chicago, IL 	                 8,091,720	3G
CMA004	 Philadelphia, PA 	         5,036,646	3G
CMA005	 Detroit-Ann Arbor, MI 	         4,775,452	3G ?
CMA006	 Boston-Brockton-Lowell, MA-NH 	 4,279,111	3G
CMA007	 San Francisco-Oakland, CA 	 4,123,740	3G
CMA008	 Washington, DC-MD-VA 	         4,182,658	3G
CMA009	 Dallas-Fort Worth, TX 	         5,120,721	3G
CMA010	 Houston, TX 	                 4,393,382	3G
CMA011	 St. Louis, MO-IL 	         2,518,470	
CMA012	 Miami-Fort Lauderdale, FL 	 3,876,380	3G ?
CMA013	 Pittsburgh, PA 	         2,035,968	
CMA014	 Baltimore, MD 	                 2,512,431	3G ?
CMA015	 Minneapolis-St. Paul, MN-WI 	 2,836,298	
CMA016	 Cleveland, OH 	                 1,863,479	3G
CMA017	 Atlanta, GA 	                 3,751,674	3G
CMA018	 San Diego, CA 	                 2,813,833	3G
CMA019	 Denver-Boulder, CO         	 2,405,327	
CMA020	 Seattle-Everett, WA          	 2,343,058	3G
CMA021	 Milwaukee, WI          	 1,500,741	
CMA022	 Tampa-St. Petersburg, FL 	 2,265,195	3G ?
CMA023	 Cincinnati, OH-KY-IN      	 1,553,843	
CMA024	 Kansas City, MO-KS        	 1,627,081	
CMA025	 Buffalo, NY                   	 1,170,111	
CMA026	 Phoenix, AZ                   	 3,072,149	3G
CMA027	 San Jose, CA             	 1,682,585	3G
CMA028	 Indianapolis, IN            	 1,474,128	3G
CMA029	 New Orleans, LA        	 1,198,637	
CMA030	 Portland, OR-WA          	 1,789,457	3G
CMA031	 Columbus, OH                	 1,394,666	3G
CMA032	 Hartford-Bristol, CT       	 1,148,618	
CMA033	 San Antonio, TX         	 1,559,975	3G
CMA034	 Rochester, NY          	 1,037,831	
CMA035	 Sacramento, CA         	 1,640,558	3G ?
CMA036	 Memphis, TN-AR-MS      	 1,106,808	
CMA037	 Louisville, KY-IN             	   968,313	
CMA038	 Providence-Warwick, RI 	   962,886	
CMA039	 Salt Lake City-Ogden, UT 	 1,374,649	3G
CMA040	 Dayton, OH             	   848,153	
CMA041	 Birmingham, AL         	   940,795	
CMA042	 Bridgeport-Stamford-Danbury CT    882,567	
CMA043	 Norfolk-Virginia Beach, VA-NC 	 1,041,276	
CMA044	 Albany-Schenectady-Troy, NY 	   844,001	
CMA045	 Oklahoma City, OK             	 1,049,422	
CMA046	 Nashville-Davidson, TN 	 1,231,311	
CMA047	 Greensboro-Winston-Salem, NC  	 1,085,874	
CMA048	 Toledo, OH-MI                 	   805,133	3G
CMA049	 New Haven-Waterbury-Meriden CT	   824,008	3G
CMA050	 Honolulu, HI                  	   876,156	
CMA051	 Jacksonville, FL              	 1,122,750	3G ?
CMA052	 Akron, OH                     	   694,960	3G ?
CMA053	 Syracuse, NY                  	   650,154	
CMA054	 Gary-Hammond-East Chicago, IN 	   631,362	3G
CMA055	 Worchester-Leominster, MA 	   750,963	
CMA056	 Northeast Pennsylvania, PA 	   671,232	
CMA057	 Tulsa, OK              	   841,604	
CMA058	 Allentown-Bethlehem, PA-NJ 	   740,395	3G
CMA059	 Richmond, VA           	   865,941	
CMA060	 Orlando, FL            	 1,434,033	3G ?
CMA061	 Charlotte-Gastonia, NC 	 1,009,496	3G
CMA062	 New Brunswick-Perth Amboy, NJ 	   750,162	
CMA063	 Springfield-Holyoke, MA 	   608,479	3G
CMA064	 Grand Rapids, MI       	   812,649	
CMA065	 Omaha, NE-IA           	   673,884	
CMA066	 Youngstown-Warren, OH  	   482,671	
CMA067	 Greenville-Spartanburg, SC 	   744,164	
CMA068	 Flint, MI                  	   507,828	
CMA069	 Wilmington, DE-NJ-MD   	   650,501	
CMA070	 Long Branch-Asbury Park, NJ 	   615,301	
CMA071	 Raleigh-Durham, NC     	   969,387	3G
CMA072	 West Palm Beach-Boca Raton, FL  1,131,184	3G ?
CMA073	 Oxnard-Simi Valley-Ventura, CA    753,197	
CMA074	 Fresno, CA             	   799,407	3G ?
CMA075	 Austin, TX             	 1,159,836	3G
CMA076	 New Bedford-Fall River, MA 	   534,678	
CMA077	 Tucson, AZ             	   843,746	3G
CMA078	 Lansing-East Lansing, MI 	   509,246	
CMA079	 Knoxville, TN            	   576,993	
CMA080	 Baton Rouge, LA        	   602,894	
CMA081	 El Paso, TX            	   679,622	
CMA082	 Tacoma, WA             	   700,820	3G
CMA083	 Mobile, AL             	   540,258	
CMA084	 Harrisburg, PA         	   509,074	
CMA085	 Johnson City-Kingsport, TN-VA 	   480,091	
CMA086	 Albuquerque, NM        	   646,586	
CMA087	 Canton, OH             	   406,934	
CMA088	 Chattanooga, TN-GA     	   476,531	
CMA089	 Wichita, KS            	   512,351	
CMA090	 Charleston, SC         	   549,033	
CMA091	 San Juan-Caguas, PR    	 2,176,135	
CMA092	 Little Rock, AR        	   583,845	3G
CMA093	 Las Vegas, NV          	 1,375,765	3G
CMA094	 Saginaw-Bay City-Midland, MI 	   403,070	
CMA095	 Columbia, SC           	   536,691	
CMA096	 Fort Wayne, IN         	   464,066	
CMA097	 Bakersfield, CA        	   661,645	3G ?
CMA098	 Davenport-Rock Island, IA-IL 	   359,062	
CMA099	 York, PA               	   473,043	
CMA100	 Shreveport, LA         	   392,302

Posted by: exchguy

We wait until Cingular says its ready..

Its obvious that cingular is missing some key markets for the 'end of 2006' self-imposed deadline (for the top 100 markets) rollout. One can assume that one or more things have happened to delay 3g deployment in many of these markets:
* Not enough spectrum to deploy due to lack of licensing or other issues. I was told that it takes about 10mhz of free spectrum to deploy UMTS/3g services. In some areas, Cingular just doesn't have that avaliable currently. Recent FCC auctions will help in the 1700-2100mhz bands but it is going to take time to move existing gov't users off.
* Haven't completed tower or facilities buildout, due to lack of equipment or lack of people to deploy it..especially in larger metro areas

At least for my market (Denver), I've confirmed that its been due to a lack of avaliable spectrum here and we won't see it until at least mid-2007. Other larger markets that have yet to be deployed might be experiencing the same issues.

Posted by: formercanuck

Quote:

Originally Posted by player911

I live in Cincinnati, OH and awaiting the 3G service. I see on that listing above that its not quite here yet. I wonder what the hold up is? We got EDGE pretty fast.

I gotta keep up on it because I disabled my 3G on my Cu500 for stability because it kept dropping calls and missing SMS messages. So once it goes 3G I'll have to enable it again.

EDGE was a software enhancement to GPRS to enable approximately 3x the performance. This is something completely different, where both voice and data change from a TDMA/FDMA based air interface of 200 kHz to a WCDMA based air interface of 10 MHz (5MHz paired), with devices that must support both, and be able to handoff between the 2.

Posted by: pcmike

FYI: I just went into a Cingular RETAIL store down here in Boynton Beach, FL complaining of a bad sim card in my Nokia 6230 (the phone kept locking up randomly) and the guy replaced my SIM with a 64K 3G sim card at no charge. I then asked him about 3G signal down here and he said "yes we have it" and then he showed me his LG CU500 showing a 3G signal. I then asked him when they're going to be selling that phone and he said Nov. 1st. I also asked about the 8525 and he said Nov. 1st for that one as well. He said it was suppose to be Oct. 16th, but it got pushed back. I'd like to believe him (when it comes to the phones)! Either way, Boynton Beach has 3G signal!

Posted by: scottjhl

Any word on when West Palm Beach / Boca Raton will have 3g?

Posted by: cingular#1

back again with some news!

Raleigh official launch is Monday

Charlotte official launch is 11/1 (don't ask me why)

Greensboro Delayed til mid november!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: outz

greenville, sc news?

Posted by: Gok

anyone know the LA, CA launch date? for approx. launch period? or is it here already?

Posted by: formercanuck

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gok

anyone know the LA, CA launch date? for approx. launch period? or is it here already?

Most likely sometime between now and Dec 31, 2006.
I would _hope_ for Cingular's sake that they launch before U.S. Thanksgiving, as they'll miss out on a lot of holiday sales opportunities if they don't.

Posted by: CaliSurfer008

Irvine/ Orange County?

Posted by: MDDrew

Baton Rouge 3G is online, i have a CU500

Posted by: tminutes

Quote:

Originally Posted by pcmike

FYI: I just went into a Cingular RETAIL store down here in Boynton Beach, FL complaining of a bad sim card in my Nokia 6230 (the phone kept locking up randomly) and the guy replaced my SIM with a 64K 3G sim card at no charge. I then asked him about 3G signal down here and he said "yes we have it" and then he showed me his LG CU500 showing a 3G signal. I then asked him when they're going to be selling that phone and he said Nov. 1st. I also asked about the 8525 and he said Nov. 1st for that one as well. He said it was suppose to be Oct. 16th, but it got pushed back. I'd like to believe him (when it comes to the phones)! Either way, Boynton Beach has 3G signal!

Maybe I should go into a store and see if they can give me a 3G SIM

At any rate, 3G coverage has been on and off for the last few days. I have noticed A LOT more dropped calls now, and 99% of the time it's when my phone went from 3G to G. In a few areas it even lost cingular service all together.

Posted by: pcmike

It already does.. please see my posts and others.

Quote:

Originally Posted by scottjhl

Any word on when West Palm Beach / Boca Raton will have 3g?

Posted by: junkboy

Greensboro, NC has 3g now. My lg CU500 shows 3g now.

Posted by: wanga

anyone know about when 3g Is gonna roll out in Brooklyn NY? I get 3g in manhattan.

Posted by: Havoc21

Wirelessly posted (LG-CU500 Obigo/WAP2.0 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 UP.Link/6.3.0.0.0)

Temple terrace / USF area is included in the tampa 3g area

Posted by: formercanuck

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaliSurfer008

Irvine/ Orange County?

I suspect most of So. Cal. (Los Angeles/Orange Counties) will be turned up at the same time.

Posted by: ilvla2

You forgot Riverside, San Bernardino, Ventura, Santa Barbara, Imperial, Kern and San Diego Counties

Posted by: formercanuck

Quote:

Originally Posted by ilvla2

You forgot Riverside, San Bernardino, Ventura, Santa Barbara, Imperial, Kern and San Diego Counties

Well, I did say 'most', and I suspect that will include the IE (Inland Empire for those not in So Cal)... the Empire strikes back

According to http://wireless.fcc.gov/auctions/66/fcc06-47-Att-A2.xls
These are the CMA's for California
CMA002 Los Angeles-Anaheim, CA
CMA007 San Francisco-Oakland, CA
CMA018 San Diego, CA
CMA027 San Jose, CA
CMA035 Sacramento, CA
CMA073 Oxnard-Simi Valley-Ventura, CA
CMA074 Fresno, CA
CMA097 Bakersfield, CA
CMA107 Stockton, CA
CMA111 Vallejo-Fairfield-Napa, CA
CMA123 Santa Rosa-Petaluma, CA
CMA124 Santa Barbara, CA
CMA126 Salinas-Seaside-Monterey, CA
CMA142 Modesto, CA
CMA150 Visalia-Tulare-Porterville, CA
CMA175 Santa Cruz, CA
CMA215 Chico, CA
CMA254 Redding, CA
CMA274 Yuba City, CA

Posted by: baaadandy

I haven't seen it mentioned yet, but the Scranton/Wilkes-Barre area now has 3G! For those familiar with the area, it stretches from Mountain Top to near Carbondale and west over to Clarks Summit.

Posted by: CaliSurfer008

Quote:

Originally Posted by formercanuck

I suspect most of So. Cal. (Los Angeles/Orange Counties) will be turned up at the same time.

which will be whenn?? ha

what umts phones are even currently avail?

Posted by: ilvla2

Quote:

Originally Posted by formercanuck

Well, I did say 'most', and I suspect that will include the IE (Inland Empire for those not in So Cal)... the Empire strikes back

According to http://wireless.fcc.gov/auctions/66/fcc06-47-Att-A2.xls
These are the CMA's for California
CMA007 San Francisco-Oakland, CA

That's our CMA, Mendocino and Lake Counties also make up their own market within that CMA, we're RSA (Rural Service Area) 344.

Posted by: djDiZZyD

anybody now if Richmond, VA is still on track for this month?

Posted by: formercanuck

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaliSurfer008

which will be whenn?? ha

what umts phones are even currently avail?

I'm only going to assume that it will be before 2007.
I purchased a Samsung ZX-20 through customer service (aka 611) when I did my migration from AT&TWS to Cingular last month... I'm in Los Angeles county, and don't have 3G.
I also unlocked my old AT&TWS V505 so that I could use AMR -full rate until 3G arrives.
If I can purchase a 3G phone.. so can anyone else. Just use a zipcode on (94085) to see what's available.

Posted by: z-extreme

I am in Green Bay, WI and we don't have any "3G" on any carrier (except for local Cellcom) I would love to see 3G roll out up here. My Sprint contract expires in May and I am going to switch to Cingular. I am looking for a PDA phone so please 3G rollout the barrel!!!

Posted by: justind01

I'm showing 3G now on my CU500 in Tulsa, Oklahoma. I don't know the boundaries yet (I'm north of downtown during the day), but I just noticed that it switched over from Edge in the last hour.

I can't wait to get home and test some download speeds!

Posted by: amheck

For anyone in the St. Pete FL area, I was in the store on 4th St. N yesterday and played with the CU500. 3g was active. Didn't seem a whole lot faster surfing then with Edge on the Nokia E62, but the phone was definitely showing it was active.

Posted by: kevink1

Quote:

Originally Posted by justind01

I'm showing 3G now on my CU500 in Tulsa, Oklahoma. I don't know the boundaries yet (I'm north of downtown during the day), but I just noticed that it switched over from Edge in the last hour.

I can't wait to get home and test some download speeds!

I hope that southern Tulsa, around 81st and Memorial, works well. I spend a weekend there about once a month.

And Broken Arrow. I visit there regularly too. Though that isn't as important, since my friend there just bought a wireless router. I would just have to help him configure it for wireless (security, etc).

Posted by: tminutes

Quote:

Originally Posted by pcmike

It already does.. please see my posts and others.

I went to the cingular store over the weekend b/c I needed to up my plan. I asked about getting a 3G sim and they don't have them yet

Hopefully I will get a free one once 3G is officially out

BTW---3G signal more stable now, I don't have as many dropped calls from 3G 'disappearing'

Posted by: brunoflipper

Quote:

Originally Posted by kevink1

i did not have it at 61st and yale but i do at 21st and peoria...

Posted by: URPREY

I was at the Cingular store today to check on 3G availability, and they advised me that 3G launched in Louisville, KY on October 1st. Unfortunately they only have 1 3G phone, the LG CU500. No news on the 8525 yet. Coverage is supposed to be inside of I-265 all the way to downtown.

Posted by: kevink1

Hopefully it comes on those other sites. It wouldn't seem likely they would just turn in on downtown.

Posted by: DRC72

I'm now hearing that CT will definitely have 3G by December, possibly November.

Posted by: walkguru

i hope so, drc72,

Posted by: eagle1

More info on cleveland ohio area. UMTS is almost everywhere in cleveland. Strong signal on east and west side. Drove to Akron, ohio today down I77 (a hour a way). 3G all the way to Akron and back. Download speed anywhere from 300+ to 900+ (as measured by dslreports/mspeed)

Posted by: truthful

Add Greensboro,Winston Salem, Burlington,High Point, NC and Columbia, SC to the 3G list.

Posted by: drakmog

Cleveland is well covered, there are 'dead' spots here and there like in Euclid, parts of Parma, etc... but overall good, seems like they are still working out the quirks in the system because I randomly loose all 3g signal then after 45 seconds or so it jumps back to full bars (even while stationary)

HSDPA speeds are amazing in cleveland I have used my USB cable with my MacBook Pro and have been getting consistant rates of 1.2 MBPS with burst up to 1.35 MBPS which is amazing.

Im loving the 3G, its the most surperior by FARRRRR!!!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by eagle1

More info on cleveland ohio area. UMTS is almost everywhere in cleveland. Strong signal on east and west side. Drove to Akron, ohio today down I77 (a hour a way). 3G all the way to Akron and back. Download speed anywhere from 300+ to 900+ (as measured by dslreports/mspeed)

Posted by: sharpboy

has it been released into NJ yet? im also wondering, when they release 3G will they also carry 1900mhz frequency in some areas that they dont do right now? so should i go for a k800 or k790a? cuz my w900 jusst says searchinga ll the time, due to the lack of 1900mhz in my area thanks for the info in advance

Posted by: larz

Same experience as drakmog. regarding coverage in cleveland. There are definitely a few tower still being tested..particularly one on 271 between mayfield rd exit and brainard. whenever i get handed off to that tower, 3g goes from full bars straight to gsm.

there's no 3g from north end of i-271 where it enter i-90 east at all. however oh-2 which runs parallel a few miles north has 3g for over 10 more mile east...at least out to the perry nuclear power plant.

Was out on Lake Erie doing a bit of sailing over the weekend and was able to get a strong 3G signal as far as about 6.5 nautical miles offshore of grand river, OH (lat/lon 41.48.19N, 81.24.98W) (didnt go any further...assume it would keep working for much further). At that distance offshore, calls on cingular gsm and verizon would garble significantly. no problems at all with cingular 3g. Streaming videos, however, sometimes had to re-buffer in mid play despite being on HSPDA. Maybe there's a higher error rate due to something like multipath interference caused by reflection off water or something (i'm not an engineer). Do any other markets have significant over water 3g coverage?

Quote:

Originally Posted by drakmog

Cleveland is well covered, there are 'dead' spots here and there like in Euclid, parts of Parma, etc... but overall good, seems like they are still working out the quirks in the system because I randomly loose all 3g signal then after 45 seconds or so it jumps back to full bars (even while stationary)

HSDPA speeds are amazing in cleveland I have used my USB cable with my MacBook Pro and have been getting consistant rates of 1.2 MBPS with burst up to 1.35 MBPS which is amazing.

Im loving the 3G, its the most surperior by FARRRRR!!!!

Posted by: larz

drove to columbus this evening on 271 to 71. Had 3g in mayfield...lost it when i got on 271 until i got to chagrin blvd (422) where it came back and had it all the way to where 271 ends at 71. Hit 3G in columbus around the rest area that's just before i-270 on i-71.

Quote:

Originally Posted by eagle1

Posted by: CaliSurfer008

ha so the only 3g phone offered currently is the LG CU500??

Posted by: hatoncat

No, both the Samsung ZX20 and Cingular 3125 are both UMTS.

Posted by: hrb

Quote:

Originally Posted by hatoncat

No, both the Samsung ZX20 and Cingular 3125 are both UMTS.

The Cingular 3125 is 2.5 G, means EDGE, not UMTS
Cheers
hrb

Posted by: hatoncat

You're right, it is not UMTS, I was thinking of its replacement (which should be out sooner rather than later). However, the point still stands, there are multiple UMTS devices and more will be out before year's end.

Posted by: Bacco

Quote:

Originally Posted by DRC72

I'm now hearing that CT will definitely have 3G by December, possibly November.

Well that stinks DRC72, I was hoping for Oct.

Posted by: jdwebie09

Quote:

Originally Posted by larz

Same experience as drakmog. regarding coverage in cleveland. There are definitely a few tower still being tested..particularly one on 271 between mayfield rd exit and brainard. whenever i get handed off to that tower, 3g goes from full bars straight to gsm.

there's no 3g from north end of i-271 where it enter i-90 east at all. however oh-2 which runs parallel a few miles north has 3g for over 10 more mile east...at least out to the perry nuclear power plant.

Was out on Lake Erie doing a bit of sailing over the weekend and was able to get a strong 3G signal as far as about 6.5 nautical miles offshore of grand river, OH (lat/lon 41.48.19N, 81.24.98W) (didnt go any further...assume it would keep working for much further). At that distance offshore, calls on cingular gsm and verizon would garble significantly. no problems at all with cingular 3g. Streaming videos, however, sometimes had to re-buffer in mid play despite being on HSPDA. Maybe there's a higher error rate due to something like multipath interference caused by reflection off water or something (i'm not an engineer). Do any other markets have significant over water 3g coverage?

any word on youngstown??

Posted by: DRC72

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bacco

Well that stinks DRC72, I was hoping for Oct.

Me and you both. November is a possibilty.

Posted by: cingular#1

i highly doubt it will be november.

deffinatley december. Look for official launch around christmas?

and 3g turing on in early december

Posted by: Bacco

WHy are they falling so far behind in CT cingular#1?

Posted by: cingular#1

minor network problems and sometimes it just happends..

unfortunately

Posted by: Bacco

Thanks CIngular#1, it's just when you experience it, you tend to appreciate it. I downloaded a 2.7MB file in 40 seconds the other day...sweet!

Posted by: DRC72

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bacco

Thanks CIngular#1, it's just when you experience it, you tend to appreciate it. I downloaded a 2.7MB file in 40 seconds the other day...sweet!

You did that on EDGE speeds?

Posted by: Bacco

No DRC72, that was in NYC on Cings UMTS network. I'm in the City everyday, so I'm getting used to UMTS more and more.

Posted by: DRC72

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bacco

No DRC72, that was in NYC on Cings UMTS network. I'm in the City everyday, so I'm getting used to UMTS more and more.

Oh I see. What speeds are you getting?

Posted by: Bacco

Generally around 700kbit/sec.

Not as much as others I've seen, but still great. I use dslreports.com to test.

Posted by: bradbradstreet

Quote:

Originally Posted by DRC72

Oh I see. What speeds are you getting?

Using Vonage's speed test site this is what I got the other day in the Durham, NC 3G area.

Posted by: rtfulk

Winston-Salem area update. I was driving by downtown on Hwy 52 and all I got was searching for signal. When I got to Patterson Ave. 3G poped up it stayed 3G along Hwy.8 until about 3 miles from Germanton. When I reached Walnut Cove 3G was coming and going(I guess they may be testing it there). Here in Pine Hall my speed has been bouncing from the normal 15kB to somtimes 175kB I am hoping it will be here soon.

Has anyone heard when Richmond Va. will go 3G (mainly the West side)? I will be there working Nov. and Dec.

Randy

Posted by: formercanuck

Cingular's online coverage maps have been updated to Sept 30, but show Raleigh NC, Detroit, MI, Fresno, CA, Stockton, CA, Indianapolis, IN, etc.

Posted by: Bigrock

Manager at Corp store tells me that St Louis is now set for end of November

Posted by: formercanuck

Somebody's got some high speed connectivity through dslreports.com

Code:

kbps	Latency/Sz		Domain	User agent
1908	0.288s (1024k)		mycingular.net	Opera/8.01 (J2ME/MIDP; Opera Mini/1.2.3214/1372; en; U; ssr)
1809	0.297s (1024k)		mycingular.net	Opera/8.01 (J2ME/MIDP; Opera Mini/2.0.4719/1372; en; U; ssr)
1334	0.481s (1024k)		myvzw.com	Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 1.1.4322)
1181	0.614s (1024k)		spcsdns.net	Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 4.01; Windows CE; Sprint:PPC-6700; PPC; 240x320)

http://www.dslreports.com/mspeed?results=1

Posted by: hitechy

Quote:

Originally Posted by formercanuck

Somebody's got some high speed connectivity through dslreports.com

Code:

kbps	Latency/Sz		Domain	User agent
1908	0.288s (1024k)		mycingular.net	Opera/8.01 (J2ME/MIDP; Opera Mini/1.2.3214/1372; en; U; ssr)
1809	0.297s (1024k)		mycingular.net	Opera/8.01 (J2ME/MIDP; Opera Mini/2.0.4719/1372; en; U; ssr)
1334	0.481s (1024k)		myvzw.com	Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 1.1.4322)
1181	0.614s (1024k)		spcsdns.net	Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 4.01; Windows CE; Sprint:PPC-6700; PPC; 240x320)

http://www.dslreports.com/mspeed?results=1

The only way speeds could reach that on Cingular is if someone is using a new 3.6 Mbps Category 6 HSDPA device. Since it is Opera Mini, this obviously means it is on a phone, not a PC card. It's exciting to see someone is testing these new HSDPA phones. It is very possible it is the RAZR MAXX which is the only phone I know of in Cingular's "tentative" line up with 3.6 Mbps. Either this or the result is skewed by DSLReport's servers. Probably so.

Posted by: be_favre

I have been getting a 3G signal in Eastern Palm Beach and Broward Counties for about a week now but lose 3G signal from Belle Glade to the west. Hopefully we will get a full rollout down here soon, coast to coast.

Posted by: pcmike

I just got confirmation from a friend of a friend that the official Launch in So. Fla. is Monday the 16th. Makes sense... does that match up with your information Cingular #1?

Posted by: cingular#1

as of right now, if everything goes the way its planned, we will see cingular official launch of So. Fla around monday, oct, 16th,

Posted by: pcmike

Thank you.

Posted by: dmunjal

Hey, I just noticed I got a 3G signal with my AirCard today in Dublin, CA. That is the East Bay region of the SF Bay Area. Is there a new map anywhere?

Posted by: Havoc21

they have recently expanded the 3g coverage in orlando on 528 heading east from the airport to at least 417... maybe further

anyone noticing any expansions in tampa?

Posted by: PostDeals

They got it in Atlanta and I know I got the best signal because their Corporate head quarter is only 4 miles from my home and their R&D and Sales hub is 2 miles. I bought a SGH-ZX20 for my sister today and it has 3G.

Does anyone know when there will be a 3G PDA/PHONE? I am waiting on that, I can't deal with slow speeds on 8125.

Posted by: Dr. John

Anyone heard anything about 3G launching in Cincinnati?

Posted by: Havoc21

Quote:

Originally Posted by PostDeals

Does anyone know when there will be a 3G PDA/PHONE? I am waiting on that, I can't deal with slow speeds on 8125.

There's one out now It's called HTC Tytn, the Cingular version which is called Cingular 8525 will be out sometime between now and Christmas. (have heard October 25th, November 1, Mid November... hence the sometime between now and Christmas)

http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=945066

Posted by: hitechy

Quote:

Originally Posted by Havoc21

they have recently expanded the 3g coverage in orlando on 528 heading east from the airport to at least 417... maybe further

anyone noticing any expansions in tampa?

Someone posted earlier that they were getting 3G all the way up in Lake Mary. I'm surprised at how large of an area the 3G coverage is in the Orlando area. I'm most definately in coverage as I am in the southern part of Winter Park about a mile from downtown Orlando.

The three main areas I would imagine Cingular would target would be Disney/Universal/Seaworld, the Airport, and downtown.

Posted by: Havoc21

Quote:

Originally Posted by hitechy

The three main areas I would imagine Cingular would target would be Disney/Universal/Seaworld, the Airport, and downtown.

Seaworld, Disney, downtown, and half of the airport property were part of the original 3g coverage area... i was really surprised when they expanded earlier this week, I wouldn't be surprised if Orlando had the largest 3g coverage area out of the current available markets.

Posted by: hitechy

Quote:

Originally Posted by Havoc21

Lucky for us Floridians

. I wish they would update their stupid maps though. They only update once a month

Posted by: dahruj

Quote:

Originally Posted by hitechy

Are you getting HSDPA speeds? Or is it still UMTS? Thanks...

Posted by: ilvla2

How is it at Orlando's Amtrak station?

Orlando, FL (ORL)
1400 Sligh Blvd.
Orlando, FL 32806

Station Services
Station Hours
Ticketing Hours
Checked Baggage Hours
Help with baggage during baggage hours
Enclosed Waiting Area
Restrooms during station hours
Payphones during station hours

Served by-

Silver Service / Palmetto
Sunset Limited

Posted by: Nautilus Man

I have had the 3G Sierra Wireless Data Card using EDGE service only here in Denver since 3/06. 3G was said to be due in May. Then it was backed up until 8/06. Then I was told it would be 10/06. I went into a local store today and was now told that due to some corporate level screw up with the FCC, Cingular does NOT have enough licensed spectrum here in Colorado to allow them to switch on 3G until a full year from now!!

Has anyone else in Denver heard of this? Denver is not the largest Metro area but certainly more of a priority than Oklahoma, etc. This is unforgivably ridiculous and if this is true, I have a huge incentive to do the $150 ETFcancellation and get a data card with Verizon who have had 3G here locally for almost a full year now.

Boo on Cingular for LOWERING the Bar!!

-THP

Posted by: BrantB8771

It'll be in JAX sometime this week! :-)

Posted by: exchguy

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nautilus Man

I have had the 3G Sierra Wireless Data Card using EDGE service only here in Denver since 3/06. 3G was said to be due in May. Then it was backed up until 8/06. Then I was told it would be 10/06. I went into a local store today and was now told that due to some corporate level screw up with the FCC, Cingular does NOT have enough licensed spectrum here in Colorado to allow them to switch on 3G until a full year from now!!

Has anyone else in Denver heard of this? Denver is not the largest Metro area but certainly more of a priority than Oklahoma, etc. This is unforgivably ridiculous and if this is true, I have a huge incentive to do the $150 ETFcancellation and get a data card with Verizon who have had 3G here locally for almost a full year now.

Boo on Cingular for LOWERING the Bar!!

-THP

Yes, see this thread that I started about it: http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1014070

I've heard the same thing. Seems to be a lack of spectrum issue and something related to TDMA holding things up. The question is around the supposed FCC screwup (why its not documented as public record on the FCC site) and why they are saying a year.

Posted by: Razor1973

Quote:

Originally Posted by cingular#1

as of right now, if everything goes the way its planned, we will see cingular official launch of So. Fla around monday, oct, 16th,

OK, so it is Monday, Oct. 16th. in South Florida. Where's 3G?

Posted by: pcmike

We got it up here (Boynton Beach).. and have for little over a week or two....

Posted by: Havoc21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Razor1973

OK, so it is Monday, Oct. 16th. in South Florida. Where's 3G?

My dad says he has it now in Pompano, but if you are waiting for an official word from Cingular... I wouldn't hold your breath.

Posted by: Razor1973

Screw official word! I can't wait to see the actual coverage. 9:40 PM and no 3G icon...

Posted by: pcmike

What phone are you using for 3G coverage?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Razor1973

Screw official word! I can't wait to see the actual coverage. 9:40 PM and no 3G icon...

Posted by: Razor1973

Quote:

Originally Posted by pcmike

What phone are you using for 3G coverage?

Nokia E61. It won't work on the U.S. HSDPA band, but at least it "sees" it and notifies me with a 3G icon in the top left corner. I had it in Boston.

However, I am pleased to announce that my EDGE speeds have increased considerably. I used to average 100-120 kbps. Today, I ran the DSLReports tests again and the average of 3 runs with a 1 MB file is 255!!!

Posted by: formercanuck

I am not sure how it would 'see' it, if the phone does not support UMTS 850/1900, but supports UMTS 2100.

Posted by: Razor1973

I don't know either, but as soon as I landed in Boston and turned on my phone, I got a little 3G icon where the GPRS icon normally is.

Posted by: cyberenz

I have a TyTN and when I'm on 3G it shows a U instead of a G on the screen. I haven't seen a U in Pompano, but it's alive and working in Boca Raton, Ft. Lauderdale everywhere, Plantation, in Sunrise to the edge of the Everglades, in Aventura and in Miami. It sucks in Hollywood, very low signal and Cingular is the worse in that city anyway, G or U.

Posted by: formercanuck

3G should be live in Orlando

Cingular Fulfills the Need for Speed in Orlando With Ultra-Fast Wireless Broadband Service
3G Network Delivers Average Data Speeds of 400-700 Kbps

http://cingular.mediaroom.com/index...eases&item=1716

Posted by: Razor1973

Now I can't wait for Cingular to release a decent HSDPA smartphone, i.e. Treo 750v! Hopefully very soon, as I want to start enjoying those speeds!

Posted by: RipRorn

Quote:

Originally Posted by formercanuck

I am not sure how it would 'see' it, if the phone does not support UMTS 850/1900, but supports UMTS 2100.

Whenever I use a Euro UMTS phone in NA and it loses GSM signal, it shows the '3G' icon (Though no signal) briefly before reacquiring GSM signal. I am assuming this is because it defaults to the Euro 2100 band 3G network prior to switching to GSM, therefore not likely seeing the NA 3G bands.....

Posted by: Razor1973

Yeah, that's what I got. The icon was there for just a second or two. It doesn't happen in areas where there's no 3G coverage, though.

I just turned off and back on my E61 and still no 3G coverage in Miami.

Posted by: kevink1

Quote:

Originally Posted by Razor1973

Now I can't wait for Cingular to release a decent HSDPA smartphone, i.e. Treo 750v! Hopefully very soon, as I want to start enjoying those speeds!

I may go back to the Treo when the prices drop (so, no early adopter again), and when my Dell wears out.

I just get mixed feelings. I like a phone smaller than the Treo, but since I end up carrying a PDA now, it would overall be less to carry.

Posted by: Razor1973

Did you know the 750 is smaller and lighter than than the 650? Not only that, but it also has rounder edges, which make it look even smaller than it is.

Posted by: formercanuck

Quote:

Originally Posted by RipRorn

Must be a bug in their software somewhere, as the Euro 2100 band does not exist in NA.

Posted by: pcmike

Did you know it has no Wifi, no touchscreen, weird screen dimensions, looks like a Q, etc..? Most everyone following this thread is highly interested in 3G AS WELL AS Wifi on the HTC.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Razor1973

Did you know the 750 is smaller and lighter than than the 650? Not only that, but it also has rounder edges, which make it look even smaller than it is.

Posted by: Dr. John

Quote:

Originally Posted by pcmike

Did you know it has no Wifi, no touchscreen, weird screen dimensions, looks like a Q, etc..? Most everyone following this thread is highly interested in 3G AS WELL AS Wifi on the HTC.

Where did you hear that the 750 doesn't have a touchscreen? AFAIK, the 750 runs the PPC version of Windows Mobile 5.0, which requires a touchscreen. Correct me if I'm wrong here.

Posted by: iamthedudeman

Its everywhere in clearwater, from the causeway to the beach. Same in St Pete. Too bad I moved two miles away to Dunedin, no 3g there yet.

Posted by: pcmike

Sorry, I stand corrected on that issue.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr. John

Where did you hear that the 750 doesn't have a touchscreen? AFAIK, the 750 runs the PPC version of Windows Mobile 5.0, which requires a touchscreen. Correct me if I'm wrong here.

Posted by: Quatre

sucks tmobile is getting the htc s620/excalibur as the tmob dash.

its a Q like smartphone but with wifi and better in other ways but just doesn't have highspeed data as tmob doesnt' have any,

i'm waiting for the samsung i607, another Q like smartphone but like the cdma Q it doesnt' have wifi and i prefer wm for ppc with touchscreen. there was a rumor that the gsm Q would have wifi but i bet that will only be if it doesnt' have highspeed and/or is for tmob.

am going to look at the new treo 750 as it is the wm for ppc i prefer and form factor i'm starting to think is better witht the exposed keyboard for better one handed use as compared to the htc wizard, apache, and tytn devices with slide out keyboard.

but no wifi on the treo so bleh. prob get the samsung i607 and the tytn for a good combo since the tytn has wifi and the i607 has the thin form factor i like.

if the treo was a little thinner like the Q, i607, htc excalibur, and had wifi , it would beat all those smartphones as it is wm for ppc with touchscreen and it would beat the tytn becaue of the better one handed use exposed keyboard form factor.

and i would get the treo instead of those other choices. now they did make it a little sleeker then old treos so thats a start but its not thin as the Q , i607, or excalibur, somethign i would overlook if it had wifi

but they are too dumb to finally ever add wifi in the new treo. we should all boycott any smartphone or ppc phone that doesn't have wifi and just buy the ones that do. then watch how fast they add it.

Posted by: Razor1973

If you really like the Q (which I personally don't) and really want Wi-Fi, look at the Q Pro. It should include HSDPA and maybe even Wi-Fi.

That being said, of all bunch of phones coming out for T-Mobile or Cingular I probably like the Samsung i607 best. Granted, it's not Symbian (I am a Symbian freak), but:

- It's a Smartphone, not PPC, i.e. no stylus, which I like (one-handed use)
- Has a really nice form factor (by my standards, at least)
- Quad-band
- HSDPA
- Wi-Fi
- Bluetooth and IrDA (not like anyone uses IrDA anymore)
- microSD & TransFlash
- USB

What I find disappointing in this phone is:

- Only 65K colors (probably my biggest pet peve)
- Camera is only 1.3 MP
- Processor could be faster (ARM core @ 220 MHz)

Posted by: Eagle117

UMTS is launching in St. Louis on November 14th apparently. I'm going to their lunch and learn.

You are invited to join
Cingular Wireless’ Business Markets Group
November 14th
St. Louis Broadband UMTS / HSDPA

Posted by: Havoc21

Quote:

Originally Posted by iamthedudeman

Its everywhere in clearwater, from the causeway to the beach. Same in St Pete.

Awesome, thanks for the update.

Now all they need to do is s t r e t c h out to Plant City and Lakeland.

Posted by: Razor1973

. . . a n d M i ami. Longer stretch, but highly desired.

Posted by: ilvla2

My boys here are allover it Razor

Posted by: Quatre

Quote:

Originally Posted by Razor1973

If you really like the Q (which I personally don't) and really want Wi-Fi, look at the Q Pro. It should include HSDPA and maybe even Wi-Fi.

That being said, of all bunch of phones coming out for T-Mobile or Cingular I probably like the Samsung i607 best. Granted, it's not Symbian (I am a Symbian freak), but:

- It's a Smartphone, not PPC, i.e. no stylus, which I like (one-handed use)
- Has a really nice form factor (by my standards, at least)
- Quad-band
- HSDPA
- Wi-Fi
- Bluetooth and IrDA (not like anyone uses IrDA anymore)
- microSD & TransFlash
- USB

What I find disappointing in this phone is:

- Only 65K colors (probably my biggest pet peve)
- Camera is only 1.3 MP
- Processor could be faster (ARM core @ 220 MHz)

i dont realy like the Q. i got it free along with ot ht820 stereo bt headset throught mot v710 class action suit. they calling it the Q pro? it wasnt definite they are adding wifi for gsm version.

speaking of wifi. it was said that the i607 does not have wifi and none of the test prototpe arly models ppl had does. i doubt they will add it for final release though id love to pleseantly surprised.

also i cnt imagine the i607 having two types of removable meia/memory card. its one or the other though moicro sd is transflash though you wrote it as two sep things. add that t the list of cons because mini sd that other ppc phones ane even thin smartphones like the Q use mini sd instad of inferior micro sd transflash.

i agree colors, camera & processor is disappointing but what i disagree is that smartphone is prefera ble to wm for ppc.

just because it hs touch screen & ability to use stylus doesnt mean its not one haned. treo is plenty one handed. its the keyboard and form that make it not great for one handed use like the htc wizard, apache and tytn devices with slide out keyoard which is great but not good for one handed.

many like myself preer wm for ppc over smartphone. why woud you want a lite or limited wm for smartphone that cant do all thatat wm for ppc can. touchscreen doesnt mean you have to use stylus its just an extra option. cant edit docs/text on smrtphone, it sucks. and typing this on Q keyboard sucks

so to me treo 750 would be great as its wm