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AT&T 3G Rollout - Latest markets launching

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Posted by: bobolito

Quote:
Originally Posted by myke81
I wonder if they are only doing the 'affluent' areas, decently populated areas with the notion of business people who'd be willing to spend extra to use the service. Come to think of it, the only areas around here, on 3G, are main thoroughfares for commuters, Routes 35/36, the Parkway and Rt 9. Just like most of the North Jersey suburbs are sleepy little commuter towns, Cingular, without a doubt is using some sort of demographics/research when it comes to where and when they'll be filling in the gaps.

That's definitely true. If you look at the current 3G coverage in NJ/NYC, they have most of the business traveler areas (where you have major hotels and airports) are all covered: Parsippany, Jersey City/Newark, and all 3 major airports, plus the lower half of Manhattan which is where most business users would be most of the time. Plus there is 3G in White Plains, NY as well. I don't think phase 2 will hit this year in our area.

Needless to say, central NJ is an important business/commercial area and it is currently getting 3G. So you can definitely see the pattern. Having said that, I get the feeling that where I live won't get any 3G for a long time.


Posted by: Eric5273

I wonder how long until Rockland County is covered. We already have EVDO from both Verizon and Sprint.


Posted by: Razor1973

Quote:
Originally Posted by Steven2420
Cingular Offers HSDPA in Southern Markets

WORKS GREAT ON MY TYTN-AWESOME SPEEDS!!!


I envy you! Come on, Cingular! Release the 8525 already!


Posted by: myke81

and bobolito, where in the nyc metro are ya? i gotta tell you though, i was surprised to find 3G service had advanced as far south into Monmouth Co. as quick as it did. It was just two weeks ago, give or take, that 3G was live at the Menlo Park Mall or the Woodbridge/Amboys/Edison area.


Posted by: Jayden0606

I was just in a 3 hour meeting and verified today that 3G was officially launched in 3 more markets and they are as follows:

Cincinnati
Memphis, TN
St Louis, MO

Lots of markets now are actually capable of 3G, but are still in the testing stages. If you have a 3G device in a market that has not officially launched, you can verify if it is close to being available in your markets by testing your speeds every two hours as they are testing it are various points of the day. The blackjack will be officially launched, hopefully with the Cingular 8525 on the 16th.


Posted by: aadadams

I used 3g in Memphis on Friday last. The speed was good. I was at the airport and my connecting flight was 3 hours late.....If it were not for my 3G TyTN I would have had to pay for WiFi.


Posted by: dictoresno

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fire14
From my understanding Rt 78/24 up to Springfield/Summit does have 3G coverage and even parts of Millburn up Rt 24.
I know we have it here in Union per Cingular reps & the map. It's funny if you look at the map and see the gap between Springfield & Millburn for 3G coverage.


yea im in short hills and i noticed that. i couldnt believe how stupid the coverage looked. and you guys in union are lucky, you have solid coverage through the whole town. we are very spotty with service in SH


Posted by: DRC72

Well I finally got a chance to test out 3g in Boston. Although it wasn't a very consistent 3G signal. I would jump from 3G to GSM and vice versa a lot. Also I didn't notice any issues with the handoffs. In fact I started a call in 3G and ended it in GSM. But at the end of the day the 3G signal disappeared completely. I take 3G is still in the testing phases in Boston?
Quote:
Originally Posted by ilvla2
Are you taking Amtrak or driving in your caw? Sorry, a little Bawstun accent funny lol I gawt ta get in my caw, and drive very faw

No I drove. I had business out that way.


Posted by: aadadams

I think I renmember reading that the hand-offs from 3G to GSM were fine, but the reverse scenario presented problems resulting in a dropped call.


Posted by: jeffro01

anyone anywhere have any news for wichita ks??? i know we are small but...

Jeff


Posted by: jettie1767

East Brunswick area, Rt 18 has 3G for the last 2 weeks.


Posted by: docvenom04

Most of Florida including most Tallahassee now has 3G coverage.


Posted by: Jayden0606

Quote:
Originally Posted by DRC72
Well I finally got a chance to test out 3g in Boston. Although it wasn't a very consistent 3G signal. I would jump from 3G to GSM and vice versa a lot. Also I didn't notice any issues with the handoffs. In fact I started a call in 3G and ended it in GSM. But at the end of the day the 3G signal disappeared completely. I take 3G is still in the testing phases in Boston?

No I drove. I had business out that way.



That is probably the reason for that. Lots of markets are capable, just on when it is going to be released. Some real cool stuff is coming for Cingular.


Posted by: ilvla2

Quote:
Originally Posted by Razor1973
I envy you! Come on, Cingular! Release the 8525 already!


The 15th of November is what I have heard, that's only an hour and a half away for me


Posted by: Jayden0606

Quote:
Originally Posted by ilvla2
The 15th of November is what I have heard, that's only an hour and a half away for me



The 16th was Cingular official press release date.


Posted by: ilvla2

THey changed it then, because I saw the 15th allover the web.


Posted by: Fire14

Quote:
Originally Posted by dictoresno
yea im in short hills and i noticed that. i couldnt believe how stupid the coverage looked. and you guys in union are lucky, you have solid coverage through the whole town. we are very spotty with service in SH


I think part of the reason you have the spotty coverage in parts of Short Hills/Millburn are the NIMBY people, once you get off the main roads like Morris Ave and Millburn Ave you get into the mansions and these people don't want towers in their multi-million dollar neighborhoods. We happen to have a decent town that doesn't fight the towers as much (Or our resident's are clueless when the zoning meetings happen & what is brought up in them)

I am suprised some area's don't have good coverage, like the train station off Short Hills Ave. They could throw antenna's on the railroads electrical towers to provide coverage. At least most of South Mountain has coverage.

But I agree they could do better if they really wanted to up there, and I believe most carriers are this way in Millburn/Short Hills.


Posted by: Razor1973

Quote:
Originally Posted by docvenom04
Most of Florida including most Tallahassee now has 3G coverage.

And yet, no 3G phone is being offered here by Cingular.


Posted by: 100thMonkey

c'mon Union county!


Posted by: bigddybn

Quote:
Originally Posted by docvenom04
Most of Florida including most Tallahassee now has 3G coverage.


Neither Martin nor St. Lucie counties have it. I don't believe Indian River does either. I'm sure there are MANY MANY more places in FL that don't have it as there are many counties much less populated then these in the state.


Posted by: bobolito

The NJ 3G thread has been merged here.

Quote:
Originally Posted by myke81
and bobolito, where in the nyc metro are ya? i gotta tell you though, i was surprised to find 3G service had advanced as far south into Monmouth Co. as quick as it did. It was just two weeks ago, give or take, that 3G was live at the Menlo Park Mall or the Woodbridge/Amboys/Edison area.

I am usually in the Passaic County surroundings.


Posted by: myke81

i was reviewing the post from the guy that traveled to boston and i happened to notice the same issues with the 3G. I've been traveling up and down the highways here noticing that my phone's 3G w/ full bars. I try to connect to CV or anything and my connection goes to G or E, even sometimes kicks out altogether. I've noticed that if I turn my power cycle the phone, I'm getting 3G upon initial connection. If it's on during day and every few minutes my phone registers itself with God only knows what, I'm still stuck on E or G. The voice quality I haven't taken much notice to, primarily because I don't think HSDPA/UMTS has any true advantage, it's all based off of the GSM platform, then again, I've used Samsungs for years and always experienced a good clarity.
I still wish Cingular would update their embarassing coverage maps.


Posted by: kilovolt

agreed. i had the opportunity to try out an A-707 for a couple of days. The phone was impressive - great screen, lots of neat features, comfortable to hold. But the 3g service coverage was lousy. Almost all of my calls handed off to GSM at some point during the call. The handoffs were fine, but I did lose about a half a word when it did. I could tell a difference between UMTS codec and GSM (with the crappy AMR-HR codec). UMTS was certainly much clearer.

The future certainly looks bright for UMTS, but the original 850 markets (1900 overlay) probably need some more UMTS buildout, or wait until they open up UMTS850. At least in the Bay Area.

I'm interested in hearing about other people's experiences in 1900-only markets that now have UMTS (Phoenix, the Carolinas, Toledo and other parts of Ohio). Are you seeing areas where UMTS hands off to GSM, despite both technologies running at 1900?

I read an interesting article from Bechtel about UMTS network layout, and it definitely has it's own propogation qualities...they try to minimize the cell overlap to prevent heightened noise levels (thus improving data throughput speeds), but also fight pilot pollution like standard CDMA. Perhaps UMTS still has coverage limitations similar to GSM that force handoffs, regardless of tower spacing and frequency.

Thoughts?


Posted by: CTwires

CT is up...nice!


Posted by: phonefriend

3G has been live in Boston and surroundings for a year. Unless you are traveling in areas where Cingular is expanding 3G coverage, I am surprised at your experience. It makes me think twice before upgrading to a 3G device.


Posted by: Bacco

Quote:
Originally Posted by CTwires
CT is up...nice!


Which parts? I'll check on my ride home. I hope it's my home area.


Posted by: chymmylt

Quote:
Originally Posted by CTwires
CT is up...nice!


Thanks - confirming something for me I just upgraded from the TyTN rom to the Cingular rom (1.31) last night and I didn't know if it was a coincidence or if it had something to do with the rom

Stamford, Norwalk and Darien (spotty) are working around here


Posted by: Bacco

Quote:
Originally Posted by chymmylt
Thanks - confirming something for me I just upgraded from the TyTN rom to the Cingular rom (1.31) last night and I didn't know if it was a coincidence or if it had something to do with the rom

Stamford, Norwalk and Darien (spotty) are working around here


Thanks, I'll look for it while on the train. Upgrading to Cingular ROM shouldn't have made a difference. I'm using stock ROM and have always had UMTS while in NYC and other cities that have coverage.


Posted by: chymmylt

I had UMTS when I was in NYC too but it just seemed like an extreame coincidence that it happened right after I upgraded the rom - but coincidences do happen (case and point!)


Posted by: stlsingledad

St. Louis is up. Just got my CU500 today, activated it and it's 3G all the way. Haven't driven around with it yet to test it out, but here at home it rocks.


Posted by: Bacco

For DRC and anyone else interested in CT...along Metro North route from Old Greenwich to just past Darien is up. Also, on 95 fromabout exit 25 N to 27A then onto 8/25 all the way to exit 9 (Trumbull) is up.

I'm typing this from my house on the phone using UMTS...yeah baby.


Posted by: DRC72

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bacco
For DRC and anyone else interested in CT...along Metro North route from Old Greenwich to just past Darien is up. Also, on 95 fromabout exit 25 N to 27A then onto 8/25 all the way to exit 9 (Trumbull) is up.

I'm typing this from my house on the phone using UMTS...yeah baby.

Cool!!! The Hartford area shouldn't be long now.


Posted by: Bpt_Flames

Bpt Is Up, Now Just Need My N75 And I Will Be Good


Posted by: sonichrome

orlando is spotty too. millenia mall area, outside my apt im 3g in my living room im on edge, the bedroom is gprs. c'mon cingular, raise the bar here! its a highly populated area and considered an upscale neighborhood, im definitely surprised.


Posted by: smush401

Hey looks like 3G is now up and running in the Lehigh Valley PA. Coverage map has been updated and all the 3G handsets are showing on the website for my zip. Including by the way the Blackjack


Posted by: myke81

i see now they updated the Lehigh Valley and Scranton/WB area. It'd be nice if they updated the coverage map date and updated the Central NJ region.


Posted by: bobolito

All of Manhattan and part of the Bronx in NYC now shows 3G. The east coast of northern NJ is also covered, like Fort Lee. Other areas like Trenton have also been added to the map.


Posted by: liquidsg

Quote:
Originally Posted by myke81
i see now they updated the Lehigh Valley and Scranton/WB area. It'd be nice if they updated the coverage map date and updated the Central NJ region.


i concur! central NJ pleaseeeee.


Posted by: myke81

i'm about to draw my own map, hell, it would probably far more accurate than the online garbage. at least i'd factor in real coverage. i won't use stupid, justifying disclaimers like, foliage, handset, time and temperature and other various things like, nuclear warfare might hinder your coverage experience nonsense. cingular's really being generous with their 'predicted' coverage. if they really knew just how poor it was in certain places, they'd be removing a lot of orange and adding a bit more white.


Posted by: wtxn

I am using Cingular 3G here in Canton, OH, 5+ miles south from marked 3G coverage on the map...


Posted by: bobolito

Quote:
Originally Posted by myke81
i'm about to draw my own map, hell, it would probably far more accurate than the online garbage. at least i'd factor in real coverage. i won't use stupid, justifying disclaimers like, foliage, handset, time and temperature and other various things like, nuclear warfare might hinder your coverage experience nonsense. cingular's really being generous with their 'predicted' coverage. if they really knew just how poor it was in certain places, they'd be removing a lot of orange and adding a bit more white.

Wow! let us know when you finish drawing it and make sure to post it here. I can't wait for that big day.

Let's show Cingular anyone can make better maps!


Posted by: vietalogy

anyone know when its goin to be released in grand rapids, MI?


Posted by: myke81

Quote:
Originally Posted by bobolito
Wow! let us know when you finish drawing it and make sure to post it here. I can't wait for that big day.

Let's show Cingular anyone can make better maps!



all i need is to do a little driving, grab 5 handsets and a nice big crayons. i'll make it actual and pretty...pretty ugly.
yes, cingular's got great coverage, i just haven't found it yet. haha.


Posted by: CTwires

Download Speed: 1432 kbps (179 KB/sec transfer rate)
Upload Speed: 348 kbps (43.5 KB/sec transfer rate)


Posted by: myke81

If only the 3G would stay on long enough before kicking back to GPRS and EDGE, only staying on EDGE. No wonder they won't update central NJ on the coverage maps. Cingular's probably ashamed to even acknowledge it being available. If it wasn't so damn sporadic, I'm sure I and other disgruntled Cingular customers would be just a tad bit happier.


Posted by: SD69

Quote:
Originally Posted by bobolito
If you look at the current 3G coverage in NJ/NYC, they have most of the business traveler areas (where you have major hotels and airports) are all covered: Parsippany, Jersey City/Newark, and all 3 major airports, plus the lower half of Manhattan which is where most business users would be most of the time. Plus there is 3G in White Plains, NY as well. I don't think phase 2 will hit this year in our area.
They seem to be doing it strictly in stages. Cingular installed a new BS at the Scarsdale Train Station (directly south and contiguous to White Plains 3G coverage) about a month ago and apparently DID NOT TURN ON 3G! What a lousy deal. It seems like it would be easy enough for them to do it then. Plus, a lot of power users at that location (at least during commuting hours).


Posted by: cingular#1

Quote:
Originally Posted by DRC72
Cool!!! The Hartford area shouldn't be long now.



remember that surprize?

more CT to come soon and some other markets like Los Angeles


Posted by: DRC72

Quote:
Originally Posted by cingular#1
remember that surprize?

more CT to come soon and some other markets like Los Angeles

It's funny you mention this because this morning I was making a call to voicemail when I noticed the 3G indicator was on. My first call on 3G in CT!!! Although the call did drop and my phone went back to EDGE/GSM mode. The 3G indicator did not now show up anymore today, but I guese that means my area is in the testing phase and it shouldn't be long now.


Posted by: outz

hopefully greenville, sc will come on before feb of next year... even unofficially


Posted by: cingular#1

Quote:
Originally Posted by DRC72
It's funny you mention this because this morning I was making a call to voicemail when I noticed the 3G indicator was on. My first call on 3G in CT!!! Although the call did drop and my phone went back to EDGE/GSM mode. The 3G indicator did not now show up anymore today, but I guese that means my area is in the testing phase and it shouldn't be long now.



not long at all


Posted by: ctalmadg

Still No Upstate NY....Eh? They are selling the CU500, but no 3G yet... I will wait impatiently!


Posted by: Wrangler3383

Quote:
Originally Posted by DRC72
It's funny you mention this because this morning I was making a call to voicemail when I noticed the 3G indicator was on. My first call on 3G in CT!!! Although the call did drop and my phone went back to EDGE/GSM mode. The 3G indicator did not now show up anymore today, but I guese that means my area is in the testing phase and it shouldn't be long now.


Hey what city were you in when you saw the 3G indicator turn on?


Posted by: myke81

on a happier note.......
Central NJ rolls out and lights up. The coverage too lol. (sorry, won't discuss my personal habits)... I woke up today to 3G in Leonardo, NJ. I headed out to work, taking 36, all throughout the Bayshore of Monmouth County, we've got 3G. I'm going to go to Sandy Hook today and see if Highlands was turned on. So, it's fair to assume that the 36 corridor's fully lit. How far inland, I'm unsure as of yet. I don't even want to bother looking at the coverage maps. It's only going to irritate me more.


Posted by: formercanuck

More coverage for the California central valley desert and Nashville


Cingular Lights Up Bakersfield With 3G Wireless Broadband Service
Mobile Wireless Broadband Network Transforms Bakersfield Into Metropolitan 'Hot Spot'

http://cingular.mediaroom.com/index...eases&item=1767

Cingular Meets Nashville's Need for Speed With New Wireless Broadband Network
Mobile Network Transforms City into Wireless 'Hot Spot'

http://cingular.mediaroom.com/index...eases&item=1765


Posted by: mikegold

Quote:
Originally Posted by myke81
on a happier note.......
Central NJ rolls out and lights up. The coverage too lol. (sorry, won't discuss my personal habits)... I woke up today to 3G in Leonardo, NJ. I headed out to work, taking 36, all throughout the Bayshore of Monmouth County, we've got 3G. I'm going to go to Sandy Hook today and see if Highlands was turned on. So, it's fair to assume that the 36 corridor's fully lit. How far inland, I'm unsure as of yet. I don't even want to bother looking at the coverage maps. It's only going to irritate me more.


When my 8525 arrives today...I hope to find that western Monmouth has been turned on.


Posted by: myke81

I'm sure it's going to be on soon, if not already. If they can get 3G in parts of East Brunswick, Hightstown, Millstone, etc, it's most likely there. I'll call my old store in Freehold and ask them what they know of the area. I was sure that the Freehold regional area would've been rolled out a while back, due to the affluent Staten Island/Brooklyn migrants settling in mobster Manalapan, another sleepy commuter town.


Posted by: DRC72

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wrangler3383
Hey what city were you in when you saw the 3G indicator turn on?

In Cromwell which is part of the Hartford area. I didn't see any 3G signal today.


Posted by: Wrangler3383

Nothing on the coast east of New Haven yet


Posted by: DRC72

Wirelessly posted (DRC72's: LG-CU500 Obigo/WAP2.0 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 UP.Link/6.3.0.0.0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wrangler3383
Nothing on the coast east of New Haven yet


There workiog their way down.


Posted by: TriAxis

Not sure if it's been mentioned but I got my 8525 yesterday and was shocked to see that 3G was live in Deltona Florida. I had read that it was up in running from Tampa to Lakeland to Orlando to Lake Mary. I was out past Deland and it dropped off. But it looks like Cingular is going to make 3G run from Tampa to Daytona Beach. So soon most of I-4 should be completely covered.


Posted by: wtxn

Not only is the Cingular coverage finder outdated, Cingular employees should be able to pull up updated coverage maps. I went to the Cingular store today and an employee was able to print out a PDF of updated 3G coverage in my region (NE Ohio).

The map appears to be dated 100606 at the bottom...

Printed map from store:


Coverage Viewer map, dated 9/30/06, retrieved 11/17/2006:


The second map shows 3G coverage in Canton (none at all), where the first map clearly shows coverage...

So if you'd like a more recent coverage map, you may want to consult a Cingular employee.


Posted by: 1906!

Memphis??????????


Posted by: mclaughlinc

Is there a map that shows all the locations in the US?


Posted by: Michael95GT

Quote:
Memphis??????????


I'm really curious about this too; all my local stores and the website for my zip(38310) have been selling 3G phones(A707,CU500,ZX20) for about 3 weeks, and now this week the 8525 & the BlackJack. So I'm hoping it's just around the corner.


Posted by: aadadams

I passed through Memphis on business on the 7th and again on the 10th. On both dates I was able to enjoy stellar 3G signals while at your airport. Their may not have been an official announcement but 3G signals were available then.


Posted by: bradbradstreet

Quote:
Originally Posted by wtxn
Coverage Viewer map, dated 9/30/06, retrieved 11/17/2006:


The second map shows 3G coverage in Canton (none at all), where the first map clearly shows coverage...

So if you'd like a more recent coverage map, you may want to consult a Cingular employee.

The Cingular web site is interesting as it does not show 3G coverage for Canton and it used to. When we drove to Akron in September we had 3G as soon as we hit the airport going north through Canton. The coverage map was consistent with what we experienced then. They have updated the map but it is no longer consistent to where we saw 3G.

Will be driving through again this Wednesday and will check to see what we get.


Posted by: ctalmadg

Just got the word today....Rochester, NY area 3G target date.

JUNE 2007


Posted by: judd

Any news on Los Angeles?


Posted by: kdsek

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bacco
For DRC and anyone else interested in CT...along Metro North route from Old Greenwich to just past Darien is up. Also, on 95 fromabout exit 25 N to 27A then onto 8/25 all the way to exit 9 (Trumbull) is up.

I'm typing this from my house on the phone using UMTS...yeah baby.


How about the Danbury Area? I-84 exits 2 thru 8. Any word when this area may be up?
Thanks


Posted by: formercanuck

Quote:
Originally Posted by judd
Any news on Los Angeles?

Haven't heard any new news...
Most stores have said mid December soft launch with live in Jan/Feb 2007, while a few stores have said July/August 2007.


Posted by: Wrangler3383

when do you think the foxwoods and mohegan sun casinos in CT will light up? Think it will be a somewhat high priority?


Posted by: myke81

And now an update on the Cingular 3G expansion...
I'm happy to confirm that I had no life over the weekend, leading me to drive around and shop...
3G is available on the rt 36/35 corridor along Middlesex and Monmouth Counties, including all of the Bayshore towns.
I didn't get a 3G signal along Rt. 18 south from Old Bridge down to about Colts Neck. It picked back up again throughout Eatontown, Red Bank, W. Long Branch and Ocean Twp. I got it throughout most of Middletown as well. I didn't get it near Marlboro. I haven't been towards Freehold or Weastern Monmouth... If anyone has an update, let me know.
I'm also including my quickly thrown together, coverage map I drew up real quick with Paint. (at work, limited applications)



Posted by: DRC72

Well I was in Boston again today and the 3G signal sticked around a lot longer. In fact I picked up 3G in Natick on I90 and it continued all the way through into Boston. Once in awhile my phone would switch back to GSM/EDGE, but for the most part it stayed on 3G. On the way back it was the same thing, my 3G signal disappeared as soon as I left the Natick area. Also when I left the 3G signal area on I90 my call dropped and reverted back to GSM/EDGE. I guese the handoffs between both technologies have not been fully setup yet.


Posted by: Bacco

Hang in there DRC72...it'll be soon. They've turned 3G on along the Metro North route expect for a little bit between Southport and Westport. It works wonderfully, no issues with hand-offs or anything. Mind you, for those concerned, I don't know what the coverage is like past Bridgeport.

In certain areas in Trumbull, coverage is better than it was under GPRS/EDGE. At my mother's house, we used to get a weak signal with GPRS/EDGE, much better signal now with UMTS.


Posted by: DRC72

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bacco
Hang in there DRC72...it'll be soon. They've turned 3G on along the Metro North route expect for a little bit between Southport and Westport. It works wonderfully, no issues with hand-offs or anything. Mind you, for those concerned, I don't know what the coverage is like past Bridgeport.

In certain areas in Trumbull, coverage is better than it was under GPRS/EDGE. At my mother's house, we used to get a weak signal with GPRS/EDGE, much better signal now with UMTS.

How are the speeds down there?


Posted by: Bacco

I've been averaging a little over 700kbits...I love.


Posted by: CPcrazyfly

tested my new TyTN today in Allentown and Whitehall, PA. big fat U, with 1192 kbits/sec. wasnt even aware 3G was here in the Lehigh Valley, but it is.


Posted by: formercanuck

Cingular's maps are now upto October 31, 2006


Posted by: Quatre

Quote:
Originally Posted by CPcrazyfly
tested my new TyTN today in Allentown and Whitehall, PA. big fat U, with 1192 kbits/sec. wasnt even aware 3G was here in the Lehigh Valley, but it is.


nice, i go up there sometimes. shame i dont have it at home but thats just deep in my development. all around me i have 3g as soon as i leave the neighborhood and have wifi at home but thats why i hate when they take the wifi out of the phone.

my new blackjack doenst have it but 8525 does and thats better for surfing and typing at home anyway.


Posted by: mike5411

Does anyone know if 3G covers the whole Lehigh Valley or it is limited to Whitehall and Allentown as another poster said. More specifically, is it in Nazareth? (I am really doubting it but it would really make me switch to cingy.)


Posted by: ilvla2

Quote:
Originally Posted by myke81
And now an update on the Cingular 3G expansion...
I'm happy to confirm that I had no life over the weekend, leading me to drive around and shop...
3G is available on the rt 36/35 corridor along Middlesex and Monmouth Counties, including all of the Bayshore towns.
I didn't get a 3G signal along Rt. 18 south from Old Bridge down to about Colts Neck. It picked back up again throughout Eatontown, Red Bank, W. Long Branch and Ocean Twp. I got it throughout most of Middletown as well. I didn't get it near Marlboro. I haven't been towards Freehold or Weastern Monmouth... If anyone has an update, let me know.
I'm also including my quickly thrown together, coverage map I drew up real quick with Paint. (at work, limited applications)


Man, look at that coverage You guys in the east have no idea what lack of coverage is


Posted by: m1nh

hey guys, does anyone know when 3g will be available in iowa?


Posted by: bobolito

Quote:
Originally Posted by ilvla2
Man, look at that coverage You guys in the east have no idea what lack of coverage is

LOL! and that's not the best covered area of NJ.


Posted by: myke81

ok, coverage was updated on cingular.com to indicate as of 10/30. They still couldn't have updated the Central NJ area. Lemme guess, this will be updated either by x-mas or maybe by... 2010?


Posted by: msuspartans07

This weekend I went to visit my parents in Coldwater, Michigan. Don't be ashamed if you are unfamiliar, it is a small town (15,000-20,000) with very few professional industries, mainly industrial and local service jobs. Its about 10 miles north of the Indiana border, almost directly inbetween Detroit and Chicago, but still a couple hours outside of each. Basically it is a small market rural town without a cingular store. Anyway...while I was home I was suprised to discover a 3G signal for a few hours. I restarted my phone a few times just to be sure, and it stayed up all afternoon. I am almost fairly certain there is no perminent coverage, but maybe they are testing and plan to link coverage between Detroit and Chicago. Wishful thinking for rural areas perhaps, but exciting nonetheless.


Posted by: CPcrazyfly

Quote:
Originally Posted by mike5411
Does anyone know if 3G covers the whole Lehigh Valley or it is limited to Whitehall and Allentown as another poster said. More specifically, is it in Nazareth? (I am really doubting it but it would really make me switch to cingy.)

its not the whole lehigh valley. I don't have it in northampton. I get 3G once I head thru whitehall and into allentown.


Posted by: cingular#1

drc72 you will have 3g coverage very very soon.

3g coverage in nc is ridiculous. I was really impressed when i saw it. It covers mostly half the state, and the coverage maps are outdated as well. Verizon evdo can't even compete coverage wise.... and cingular has only been selling 3g for less than a year! See for your self... http://www.cingular.com/coverageviewer/


Posted by: DRC72

Quote:
Originally Posted by cingular#1
drc72 you will have 3g coverage very very soon.

3g coverage in nc is ridiculous. I was really impressed when i saw it. It covers mostly half the state, and the coverage maps are outdated as well. Verizon evdo can't even compete coverage wise.... and cingular has only been selling 3g for less than a year! See for your self... http://www.cingular.com/coverageviewer/

Well at least I got to test it out earlier on in Boston. Looking forward to its arrival in CT.


Posted by: wtxn

Cingular still hasn't updated the online maps for the Canton/NE Ohio area.

(the updated PDF map Cingular employees can access is dated 10/06/06)


Posted by: mike5411

Quote:
Originally Posted by CPcrazyfly
its not the whole lehigh valley. I don't have it in northampton. I get 3G once I head thru whitehall and into allentown.


Hm i doubt would get it in nazareth then. (I didnt know I had another Hofoer so close to me!!)


Posted by: dday64

Hey guys, you don't have to sit there and ask and guess if 3G is running in your area. Just use the Cingular street level map.

http://onlinecare.cingular.com/coverageviewer/

Just turn on the 3G option.

I live in Trenton, NJ and it's all 3G here according to the map - but no official mention has been made yet. So the map is definitely up to date!


Posted by: wtxn

Read back; the problem is that the map is not updated for many aresa.


Posted by: sampy111

I'm from the Hartford area. <East Windsor> Just got my 8525 and 3g is up and running... No need to delay go get your 8525 or blackjack now..


Posted by: Joel954

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tjash2010
Just wondering.

Does anyone know when Minneapolis/St. Paul/Twin Cities is scheduled to be rolled out?

I just got a nice new CU500 from Chicago and would liek to use the data features. I mean it wont even let me use the regular data network for just download ringtones and such it says Error: Connection Failed

I mean Minneapolis the 2nd largest city in the midwest right after Chicago so i would guess we would get it before Milwaukee or anywhere in Wisconsin.

Any update?


Posted by: DRC72

Quote:
Originally Posted by sampy111
I'm from the Hartford area. <East Windsor> Just got my 8525 and 3g is up and running... No need to delay go get your 8525 or blackjack now..

My area must be getting really close.


Posted by: Wrangler3383

Quote:
Originally Posted by sampy111
I'm from the Hartford area. <East Windsor> Just got my 8525 and 3g is up and running... No need to delay go get your 8525 or blackjack now..


I just drove up 91 north to 84, then took 84 west to route 72 in Bristol on Monday. While driving through I didnt see any 3g.


Posted by: Wrangler3383

Quote:
Originally Posted by wtxn
Read back; the problem is that the map is not updated for many aresa.


They may not have updated all areas, but to me the most significant change is the ability to see 3g from a level less zoomed than the city level. Now I can see all of CT, NY 3g and Boston in one window.


Posted by: studboy69

Puerto Rico's UMTS/HSDPA network will go live via a soft launch on 11/27, the service will be launched in the metro area only and expansion to include the whole island should be completed in 2007, UMTS handsets are already being sold....


Posted by: primal5

I had the opportunity to test out 3G while I was in Las Vegas last week. What an awesome servive and great speeds!!!

I live in Los Angeles, so Im still waiting to see when we will get it.

As for the Cingular map, its useless for people like me as it was last update almost 2 months ago.....


Posted by: myke81

Quote:
Originally Posted by wtxn
Read back; the problem is that the map is not updated for many aresa.



It hasn't been updated for areas that went live 2-3 wks. before the 10/30 update. Case in point, most of Central NJ was turned on and they've yet to show us something updated.
Then again, they might as well hold on until they can keep a consistent 3G signal, since I seem to be stuck on E or G almost immediately following the first 3G connection.
It's like a seizure, but wirelessly lol.


Posted by: CPcrazyfly

Quote:
Originally Posted by mike5411
(I didnt know I had another Hofoer so close to me!!)

be scared










Posted by: studboy69

Daaaaaamn Umts/hsdpa Came Online Just A Sec Ago In Puerto Rico!!!!!!!!!!!! 600kbps Downlink/ 131 Uplink Through Bt


Posted by: rpmura

Quote:
Originally Posted by wtxn
Read back; the problem is that the map is not updated for many aresa.


Yeah, like Bakersfield. I drove thru Bakersfield tonight and low and behold, there was a 3G on my CU500. Doesn't show on the coverage maps. At least now I know now that my phone works with 3G.
Still waiting for Los Angeles. I know it's soon. I think they're finishing up updating the sites. I would look for it in December. All of the T1 circuits for UMTS to all of the cell sites had November due dates. Haven't seen any for December yet. Leads me to believe possibly going live in December. Don't know how long for testing, etc. before they turn it up. That's my two cents.


Posted by: Cardiff Giant

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wrangler3383
I just drove up 91 north to 84, then took 84 west to route 72 in Bristol on Monday. While driving through I didnt see any 3g.

I was on cingular's site looking at what phones they have (thinking about buying my parents a go phone) and i was suprised to see they had 3G phones listed for my zip code (Newington). Guess it is up and running.


Posted by: formercanuck

Quote:
Originally Posted by rpmura
Yeah, like Bakersfield. I drove thru Bakersfield tonight and low and behold, there was a 3G on my CU500. Doesn't show on the coverage maps. At least now I know now that my phone works with 3G.
Still waiting for Los Angeles. I know it's soon. I think they're finishing up updating the sites. I would look for it in December. All of the T1 circuits for UMTS to all of the cell sites had November due dates. Haven't seen any for December yet. Leads me to believe possibly going live in December. Don't know how long for testing, etc. before they turn it up. That's my two cents.

There's map updates for Bakersfield (gotta check the 3g pop-up, not the actual map though, as its a pdf)
http://business.cingular.com/busine...3G-coverage.pdf


Posted by: rpmura

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cardiff Giant
I was on cingular's site looking at what phones they have (thinking about buying my parents a go phone) and i was suprised to see they had 3G phones listed for my zip code (Newington). Guess it is up and running.


Not necessarily. They show as available for Los Angeles too, but it's not live there yet.


Posted by: studboy69

they actually showed up online for Puerto Rico like a week or 2 before the last night switch on...


Posted by: Wrangler3383

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cardiff Giant
I was on cingular's site looking at what phones they have (thinking about buying my parents a go phone) and i was suprised to see they had 3G phones listed for my zip code (Newington). Guess it is up and running.


They have been releasing 3g phones in anticipated areas of deployment. DRC was saying he's been seeing 3g flickering on and off in the hartford area, and it was also mentioned before that its on in east windsor, which makes sense due to bradley international. In my opinion, CT won't really be up and running til Hartford, the 95 coridor and the casinos are all lit up permanently.


Posted by: I have a phone

Flew into Providence Wed night and 3G was live so add that to the list


Posted by: jsav

!@#$


Anybody have any idea when anywhere in Upstate NY will get 3G, Syracuse in particular?


Posted by: I have a phone

2007 as stated previously in this thread


Posted by: ROLLTIDE

Any news on the Mobile, AL area ?


Posted by: fman74

I was just in Memphis and was amazed at how great the 3g coverage was there. Yet in NJ/NYC metro area it still sucks


Posted by: DrBaker

Any updates for the Oklahoma City area? Looks like Tulsa has been up and running with 3G, but nothing in the OKC market.


Posted by: Wrangler3383

Wirelessly posted (HTC-8500/1.2 Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows CE; PPC; 240x320))

Anyone know the total number of markets they have 3g in currently?


Posted by: DRC72

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wrangler3383
Wirelessly posted (HTC-8500/1.2 Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows CE; PPC; 240x320))

Anyone know the total number of markets they have 3g in currently?

Any sign of 3G down your way?


Posted by: ROLLTIDE

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wrangler3383
Wirelessly posted (HTC-8500/1.2 Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows CE; PPC; 240x320))

Anyone know the total number of markets they have 3g in currently?


I would also like to know the answer to that question


Posted by: Wrangler3383

Quote:
Originally Posted by DRC72
Any sign of 3G down your way?


Nah, but rest assured you will know the second I see it between here and Branford. I live within the same vicinity tower wise to mohegan sun, so i'm hoping that will play in my favor for getting it quicker.


Posted by: wierdo

Rumor has it that NW Arkansas will be going live sometime in q1 2007. I once heard an employee say January, but that's not happening unless they're far faster at turning up T1s and putting in equipment than they were with the TDMA to GSM changeover.

In both Tulsa and Little Rock the 3G network covers more than I would have expected. It makes Sprint's EV-DO coverage look embarassingly small. In this region, thus far, Sprint has rolled out more markets, but hasn't done as good a job on the ones they have done.

Also, when I was in Little Rock, I saw a fair number of CU500s around, so they're definitely getting normal users on 3g. That's good, since it will make it easy for them to roll out another frequency pair relatively soon.


Posted by: MrDerby

Quote:
Originally Posted by wierdo
Rumor has it that NW Arkansas will be going live sometime in q1 2007. I once heard an employee say January, but that's not happening unless they're far faster at turning up T1s and putting in equipment than they were with the TDMA to GSM changeover.

In both Tulsa and Little Rock the 3G network covers more than I would have expected. It makes Sprint's EV-DO coverage look embarassingly small. In this region, thus far, Sprint has rolled out more markets, but hasn't done as good a job on the ones they have done.

Also, when I was in Little Rock, I saw a fair number of CU500s around, so they're definitely getting normal users on 3g. That's good, since it will make it easy for them to roll out another frequency pair relatively soon.



This might sound REALLY crazy dumb.. But worth a shot.. It's mentioned above about T1 lines.... I live in Monroevile, PA. I noticed they are laying Fiber optic cable around in the area and after taking a drive around connecting communitys I noticed that fiber is going to be availible in Wilkinsburgh, Swissvale, Edgewood, Forrest Hills - PA Does this mean Cellphone service providers reguardless CDMA...GSM Will they be able to take advantage of this ? Are they really interested in Fiber?? Do you think ?? The fiber is for Verizon Fios services.


Posted by: DRC72

Quote:
Originally Posted by MrDerby
This might sound REALLY crazy dumb.. But worth a shot.. It's mentioned above about T1 lines.... I live in Monroevile, PA. I noticed they are laying Fiber optic cable around in the area and after taking a drive around connecting communitys I noticed that fiber is going to be availible in Wilkinsburgh, Swissvale, Edgewood, Forrest Hills - PA Does this mean Cellphone service providers reguardless CDMA...GSM Will they be able to take advantage of this ? Are they really interested in Fiber?? Do you think ?? The fiber is for Verizon Fios services.

I have heard of fiber towers being deployed, but most towers are still using T-1 lines for their backhaul. I'm curious to see if any of the carriers will eventually go all fiber? Seeing how they have to pay the local telcos for leased T-1 lines which are known to be very expensive.


Posted by: bradbradstreet

I drove south from Akron, Ohio to NC yesterday. The Cingular 3G coverage map shows the signal stopping just south of Akron. In reality I had a good solid signal down through Canton and a bit south of the city. 3G went back to EDGE at around mile marker 99 on I-77. That is a lot better coverage than the maps show.


Posted by: wtxn


Yeah, I got the PDF updated map printed out at a store in Canton on the 17th (scanned above). The employees there said that there was 3G coverage in Canton.

I'd be interested in comparing the Cingular 3G areas to Cingular native coverage areas (310-410). I drove up to Kent last week from the Uniontown area and had 3G coverage for all of the route that I bothered checking -- I was able to use Google Maps throughout the whole route, and it worked great. I noticed one spot where my phone said E instead of 3G (the intersection of 224 and 43).

I use 3G in the Jackson Twp./North Canton areas daily as well as in Akron, and it has been working great.


Posted by: wierdo

Quote:
Originally Posted by DRC72
I have heard of fiber towers being deployed, but most towers are still using T-1 lines for their backhaul. I'm curious to see if any of the carriers will eventually go all fiber? Seeing how they have to pay the local telcos for leased T-1 lines which are known to be very expensive.

Fiber is even more expensive. Around here, the cheapest way to get fiber is through SBC's GigE product, which costs $2500 per end without equipment or path redundancy, but only if both ends are in the same wire center. Standard price OC-3s (155Mbps) are even more expensive, stupidly enough. In the few areas where Alltel has fiber laid in, they're a bit better in price.

I don't know for sure, but I expect that cell carriers run T1s directly from the sites to their switch, which runs the price of fiber up a whole, whole lot. T1s, not so much, as there are long distance carriers with decent deals with the local telcos who can get you a T1 for a few hundred bucks a month in the volume the cell carriers buy.


Posted by: trjons

I had a half an hour of UTMS in Los Angeles this morning....


Posted by: formercanuck

Which area in Los Angeles were you (L.A. is pretty spread out)


Posted by: ROLLTIDE

Where can I find an updated list of all the citys where cingular has 3g ?


Posted by: DRC72

Quote:
Originally Posted by wierdo
I don't know for sure, but I expect that cell carriers run T1s directly from the sites to their switch, which runs the price of fiber up a whole, whole lot. T1s, not so much, as there are long distance carriers with decent deals with the local telcos who can get you a T1 for a few hundred bucks a month in the volume the cell carriers buy.

I know VZW, Tmobile, Sprint, and Nextel purchase T-1s from ATT here in CT. They really have no choice since ATT is the only local Teleco around here. I'm sure Cingular gets a great deal on T-1s since their parent owns them.


Posted by: formercanuck

Quote:
Originally Posted by DRC72
I know VZW, Tmobile, Sprint, and Nextel purchase T-1s from ATT here in CT. They really have no choice since ATT is the only local Teleco around here. I'm sure Cingular gets a great deal on T-1s since their parent owns them.

I doubt there's much 'dealing' in it, however, I'm sure its a much simpler process to get them provisioned, as its internal.


Posted by: trjons

Quote:
Originally Posted by formercanuck
Which area in Los Angeles were you (L.A. is pretty spread out)


This was downtown this morning.


Posted by: formercanuck

I'll have to try it during my trip to the LA Autoshow next week


Posted by: trjons

It only lasted around 30 minutes...then returned to EDGE.... :-((


Posted by: ieyes

I hear 3G is available in Milwaukee. Can anyone verify that? I have yet to pick up a 3G phone, if it is one will soon be in my future.


Posted by: aadadams

I hope Racine gets it too, as always I will be there for the holidays for about 3 weeks.


Posted by: redwolfexr

Actually it doesn't matter whether you are internal or not -- provisioning t1s and their relative costs are the same. Even though the two companies are owned by the same parent they still have to report their profit/loss the same way. Internal billing is sometimes MORE costly, since often policy doesn't allow you to go to a competitor.

Cingular runs more or less independantly of its parent company.

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Sometimes the telcos provision t1s into a cell site over fiber (if there is one nearby)

Often when you hear the term "Fibertower" it refers to a company that provides t1s -- often that is over microwave and not actual fiber.

Probably long before they bother with Fiber to the cell site they will run Fractional t3s to sites and subdivide the bandwidth. (I know of at least one test ongoing in a lab) They will likely only pull those to high traffic sites.

Also, the limiting factor right now is not the frequency bandwidth -- its the data bandwidth. They will have to increase that long before they need more frequency pairs (and that costs billions, as Tmobile just demonstrated)

What I expect is that more of the voice only calls will be handed off to the GSM system when they near capacity, followed by more t1s/t3 upgrades, then maybe frequency issues. (the usual path to this is more towers with smaller footprints, not buying more frequency) Currently Cingular is using 850 and 1900 for UMTS, just like GSM.


Posted by: aubretigre

I don't know about Mobile but at the Cingular store in Auburn they claim we will have it in Feb. I don't believe it personally.


Posted by: ROLLTIDE

Mobile, AL store is saying Jan 10th .. I Don't buy it


Posted by: bradbradstreet

I just drove north on the NJ Turnpike. Had a nice solid 3G signal between mile 30 and 45. Then it went back to 3G at the northern end of the Turnpike up to the tollbooth.

When I went through Maryland earlier on I-95 I had 3G all the way.


Posted by: formercanuck

No 3G in Beverly Hills on Rodeo between Wilshire and Santa Monica


Posted by: aubretigre

Quote:
Originally Posted by ROLLTIDE
Mobile, AL store is saying Jan 10th .. I Don't buy it


Good luck man, good luck.


Posted by: snoVVman

Quote:
Originally Posted by formercanuck
No 3G in Beverly Hills on Rodeo between Wilshire and Santa Monica


I am puzzled by the statement above. AFAIK, the 30-minute blip reported above notwithstanding, L.A. does have UMTS/HSDPA yet. Why report on such a small, specific area (as opposed any other block in the greater Los Angeles area)?


Posted by: Joel954

Cingular broadens high-speed network - Florida


Posted by: WRXWAGON04NYC

Does anyone know when Brooklyn, NY will be get 3G? Only about 5% of brooklyn has 3G, how long will they spread to the rest of it??


Posted by: cornjulio21

Quote:
Originally Posted by WRXWAGON04NYC
Does anyone know when Brooklyn, NY will be get 3G? Only about 5% of brooklyn has 3G, how long will they spread to the rest of it??

While we're at it; what about the North Shore of Nassau connecting between the 3G areas already served in Northern Queens and Western Suffolk?


Posted by: Jon54321

What's the word on 3G service Kansas City? Coming soon?


Posted by: Kamanaonoeau

Hm. I asked the Hawaii Dealers regarding 3G launch and it looks like around Summer 2007. I'm debating if I should switch over or just wait...


Posted by: formercanuck

That would probably depend on a few things...
1. Are you out of contract ?
2. Incentives to switch (i.e. Holiday specials on right now ? Plan/phone rates increase after the holidays ? )
3. Coverage issues ?
4. M2M minutes ? Rollover minutes ?
5. Devices ? This appeared to be the one you were concerned about.


Posted by: Kamanaonoeau

Quote:
Originally Posted by formercanuck
That would probably depend on a few things...
1. Are you out of contract ?
2. Incentives to switch (i.e. Holiday specials on right now ? Plan/phone rates increase after the holidays ? )
3. Coverage issues ?
4. M2M minutes ? Rollover minutes ?
5. Devices ? This appeared to be the one you were concerned about.

-

Time to respond back to the questions...

1. No, I am currently under contract with T-Mobile (on a family plan). I'm considering if its worth the investment to switch over or wait patiently.
2. Hm. Not really much incentives...I'm mainly looking at the 8525 Model which recently came out. I want the sync features for email and contacts. Um...Unless they come out with crazy specials soon.
3. Coverage...I think Cingular has better coverage than T-Mobile. Although I hear of some talk about T-Mobile expanding their network and establish 3G/UTMS in the near future.
4. The mobile to mobile is a plus and the rollover can be helpful. I hardly ever use all of my minutes so I like the concept of rolling over. I also like their option for early nights, and calling u.s. territories. T-Mobile does not have that. I don't really like their messaging plans though. I roughly average about 1000-2000 a month and I'm paying like 10 bucks for unlimited. Cingular has 3k for $20. Hm.
5. 8525 appeals to me so far...

I don't know. We will see. I might hold off and see what T-Mobile has to offer when they eventually roll out their 3g platform.


Posted by: MiniMaxx

Quote:
Originally Posted by ieyes
I hear 3G is available in Milwaukee. Can anyone verify that? I have yet to pick up a 3G phone, if it is one will soon be in my future.


I have yet to see it. Last week a store guy said January but the other store guy didn't know where the Blackjacks were displayed!


Posted by: meister74

Quote:
Originally Posted by formercanuck
I'll have to try it during my trip to the LA Autoshow next week

I was just at the Autoshow today, and the girl at the Cingular booth said that there is a little patch of 3G downtown, but that's it. The rest of LA was supposed to go online this quarter, but according to her, it's being pushed back to the 2nd half of 2007


Posted by: trjons

I guess I have to remember which Starbucks I got the 3G at....


Posted by: MrDerby

At ITU Telecom in Hong Kong, several manufacturers are showing off HSUPA, the next evolution in 3G technology after HSDPA. Qualcomm will be demonstrating an HSUPA network with 1.5 Mbps upload speeds; HSDPA is currently limited to 384 Kbps uploads. LG and Samsung both have working HSUPA handsets at the show, which are live on test networks. No Carriers outside of Asia have yet committed to HSUPA, however many - including Cingular have built their 3G networks to be software upgradeable. So it will be relatively quick and easy to move to the new standard once handsets and other equipment is available. Qualcomm is also giving visitors a taste of the next version of HSDPA, which is capable of 7.2 Mbps downloads.

This is far off but good news tords "Progress..."

THIS is REALLY Good news.. I like the part where they talk about how Cingular just needs a software upgrade to achive this
http://www.phonescoop.com is where I found the article.


Posted by: cgalle

Does Houston, TX have 3G? I live about 70 miles northwest and no 3G.


Posted by: hayman

hello folks - new guy here. I have seen various reports while going through this thread that the Cingular coverage map is not always accuate. So as of today's date - December 6th - how accurate is it for the area of Pennsylvania west of Philly?
I am in the Collegeville area and 3G seems to cut off about 2 miles east of me. Has anyone found an easy way to find out if or when 3g will roll out within that specific an area?
Thanks!


Posted by: MrDerby

Quote:
Originally Posted by hayman
hello folks - new guy here. I have seen various reports while going through this thread that the Cingular coverage map is not always accuate. So as of today's date - December 6th - how accurate is it for the area of Pennsylvania west of Philly?
I am in the Collegeville area and 3G seems to cut off about 2 miles east of me. Has anyone found an easy way to find out if or when 3g will roll out within that specific an area?
Thanks!


I have seen the trucks at the Wilkinsburgh, PA tower here now for 8 days.. They said they were integrating for Wilkinsburgh, Swissvale, Edgwood PA area.. Then my home area is last North Versailies, PA. I assume the large city Pittsburgh will take a lot of time.. I'm not sure how they really go through all the buildings and things to do this task..


Posted by: joejoe111

Nothin official on when it's comming to L.A.??


Posted by: formercanuck

Only thing I've heard was .... mid December (on HoFo, and a few corp stores), and June/July 2007 (most corp stores).


Posted by: BWD

Any word on Huntsville AL?


Posted by: ilvla2

I am happy to report Sacramento has 3G live, all the way north to just outside of Woodland to be specific, woo hoo!! I am not sure how far east, but I know it's at least as far as Folsom. Going west and south, I don't know.


Posted by: SD69

Hi,

When asked about 3G operations at two new towers constructed in August, Cingular told my village the following. What does it mean? I don't have a 3G sim myself, and can't test it. Is it working and just not "official"? Does the testing have to be completed before the 3G is shown on the Cingular coverageviewer? Why does it take three months to test? Can it be assumed that it is HSDPA since they are new towers?

Thanks for any help.

SD69

"The UMTS equipment is operational, however, Cingular is performing testing to optimize both sites. They want to make sure both sites are performing efficiently. But customers using their phones in the area of both sites will use the UMTS equipment installed."


Posted by: Wrangler3383

Ive got a UMTS signal in Madison CT!!! DRC... is Hartford up today? Got a question to anyone who might be able to shed some light on this. My UMTS signal is at 1 bar. When I manually switch to GSM on my 8525, I have full strength, which is what I usually have at here at work. However when I call out using the UMTS it sounds as if I have full service. The UMTS signal also keeps going on and off. Does all this mean launch is imminent? Also do you guys think its comming from the same tower as my full strength GSM? Another weird thing is that my field test isnt giving me any info when on UMTS. Whatever the case may be, Im extatic! Got 521 kbit/sec with 2 bars. *EDIT* Just got 1014 kbit/sec *EDIT #2* I can confirm its definately 3G and not a glitch. I was just able to surf the net and hold a phone call at the same time!


Posted by: ld-runner

does the UMTS signal still make radios and landline telephones buzzzzzzzzz?


Posted by: DRC72

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wrangler3383
Ive got a UMTS signal in Madison CT!!! DRC... is Hartford up today? Got a question to anyone who might be able to shed some light on this. My UMTS signal is at 1 bar. When I manually switch to GSM on my 8525, I have full strength, which is what I usually have at here at work. However when I call out using the UMTS it sounds as if I have full service. The UMTS signal also keeps going on and off. Does all this mean launch is imminent? Also do you guys think its comming from the same tower as my full strength GSM? Another weird thing is that my field test isnt giving me any info when on UMTS. Whatever the case may be, Im extatic! Got 521 kbit/sec with 2 bars. *EDIT* Just got 1014 kbit/sec *EDIT #2* I can confirm its definately 3G and not a glitch. I was just able to surf the net and hold a phone call at the same time!

I was allover Hartford today and no 3G signal showed up. It's got be anyday now. Looks like your area is in the testing phases.


Posted by: wtxn

Quote:
Originally Posted by ld-runner
does the UMTS signal still make radios and landline telephones buzzzzzzzzz?

no.

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Posted by: Wrangler3383

Quote:
Originally Posted by DRC72
I was allover Hartford today and no 3G signal showed up. It's got be anyday now. Looks like your area is in the testing phases.


Well I just got off the phone with CS. I am extremely thrilled to report that Interstate 95 from NYC all the way to Madison, CT is lit up. As well, the Mohegan Sun and Foxwoods Casinos are 3G pockets as well!!!


Posted by: DRC72

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wrangler3383
Well I just got off the phone with CS. I am extremely thrilled to report that Interstate 95 from NYC all the way to Madison, CT is lit up. As well, the Mohegan Sun and Foxwoods Casinos are 3G pockets as well!!!

Slowly but surely it is moving upstate. By the way how do you like the CU500?


Posted by: bradbradstreet

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wrangler3383
Well I just got off the phone with CS. I am extremely thrilled to report that Interstate 95 from NYC all the way to Madison, CT is lit up. As well, the Mohegan Sun and Foxwoods Casinos are 3G pockets as well!!!

As I drove down the Merritt Parkway the other day I had 3G most of the way.


Posted by: Wrangler3383

Quote:
Originally Posted by DRC72
Slowly but surely it is moving upstate. By the way how do you like the CU500?

I like it but for the most part use my 8525 and 6682. Now that 3g is in my neighborhood I will probably be utilizing it more.


Posted by: redwolfexr

Houston coverage stops just north of The Woodlands. (the southern tip of Conroe has cell site, as I recall)

Houston city was pretty well covered though, goes to Nasa to the south and Katy to the East.

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Oh, and yes recieving a call on an 850 UMTS phone will cause an FM radio to hum. (especially if you are using an Ipod with FM transmitter as I am)


Posted by: shortyd999

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UMTS shouldnt make a buzzing noise because if that was the case then VZW phones would make that buzzing noise too. Especially because they use CDMA at 850Mhz.


Posted by: CrystalSet

I’m close to Century City. It’s about noon on December 8. Let’s see if it lasts.


Posted by: formercanuck

None for me at downtown/Metro Convention Center... but _strong_ signal everywhere...
-39dBm on GSM 1900, and -26dBm on GSM 850 in both halls of MCC and no channel worse than -75dBm


Posted by: redwolfexr

Quote:
Originally Posted by shortyd999
Wirelessly posted (LG-CU500 Obigo/WAP2.0 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 UP.Link/6.3.0.0.0)

UMTS shouldnt make a buzzing noise because if that was the case then VZW phones would make that buzzing noise too. Especially because they use CDMA at 850Mhz.


You are more than welcome to come sit in my passernger seat and call my phone

For that matter 1900 does it too, since my old Moto A845 on 1900 (in Boston, Houston, Dallas, Little Rock) and my LG CU500 on 850 (Louisville, Nashville, Memphis) both will if they are very close to my radio.


Posted by: rpmura

Quote:
Originally Posted by CrystalSet
I’m close to Century City. It’s about noon on December 8. Let’s see if it lasts.


Still have it? If not, they're probably testing site by site. That's why we're getting 30 minutes of 3G here and 45 minutes of 3g there. All service orders for T1's for UMTS were completed last month. No new ones this month that I can see. T1 circuits sitting there waiting to be hooked up and tested at cell sites. That's why I thought December for Los Angeles, but I may be wrong. I don't know how long it takes to do all of the work/testing, etc.


Posted by: cingular#1

Los Angeles will come very soon. As well as some markets in CT.

right now their is about 115-120 markets with 3g. By end of the year, we MAY see 130-135.


Posted by: CrystalSet

Quote:
Originally Posted by CrystalSet
I’m close to Century City. It’s about noon on December 8. Let’s see if it lasts.


It stopped Before 2PM.


Posted by: Kevad007

For those in Orange County, California if you want to try out 3G now as I did within my 30 day return period, the 3G kicks in off I5 just south of San Clemente at the county line into San Diego County, and works at Basilone Road (which is the access road to the Nuke Power Plant) and the public beach there. I connected to my laptop at about 700kbps and came away glowing. The map shows coverage along the shore close to Dana Point but I got no 3G in the OC as of a few days ago. I hope the predictions of OC and LA being online soon are correct because others have posted that while that was the plan for a 12/15 roll out of some sort, recent developments have set the full roll out back to June or July and that only a partial roll out may occur soon. Time will tell, soon enough.


Posted by: ilvla2

How is it on the Pacific Surfliners and the Coaster trains?


Posted by: jeffro01

i don't know what this means but on cingular.com my market now shows me 3g phones and PDA's, wonder how much longer till launch???

I'm in wichita ks

Jeff


Posted by: ROLLTIDE

Quote:
Originally Posted by cingular#1
Los Angeles will come very soon. As well as some markets in CT.

right now their is about 115-120 markets with 3g. By end of the year, we MAY see 130-135.



Where can I find a list of these markets ?


Posted by: DRC72

Quote:
Originally Posted by cingular#1
Los Angeles will come very soon. As well as some markets in CT.

right now their is about 115-120 markets with 3g. By end of the year, we MAY see 130-135.

3G is showing up already on the shoreline in CT. My area hasn't launched yet.


Posted by: redwolfexr

Most likely the cabinets are powered up and mostly broadcasting, just cell barred so that only phones with Engineering SIMs can see them. Occasionally for certain tests the cabinets have to be unbarred. (especially handoff to GSM since the phone will always prefer the unbarred system regardless of technology)

It takes a few weeks to optimize the network once it is at least 90% installed before its released.


Posted by: Wrangler3383

Quote:
Originally Posted by redwolfexr
Most likely the cabinets are powered up and mostly broadcasting, just cell barred so that only phones with Engineering SIMs can see them. Occasionally for certain tests the cabinets have to be unbarred. (especially handoff to GSM since the phone will always prefer the unbarred system regardless of technology)

It takes a few weeks to optimize the network once it is at least 90% installed before its released.

Is this why my phone is still prefering a 1 bar umts signal over a 5 bar gsm signal? Is it not optimied yet?


Posted by: shortyd999

Wirelessly posted (LG-CU500 Obigo/WAP2.0 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 UP.Link/6.3.0.0.0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by redwolfexr
Quote:
Originally Posted by shortyd999
UMTS shouldnt make a buzzing noise because if that was the case then VZW phones would make that buzzing noise too. Especially because they use CDMA at 850Mhz.




You are more than welcome to come sit in my passernger seat and call my phone



For that matter 1900 does it too, since my old Moto A845 on 1900 (in Boston, Houston, Dallas, Little Rock) and my LG CU500 on 850 (Louisville, Nashville, Memphis) both will if they are very close to my radio.


Well my CU500 doesnt make the speakers buzz when sitting next to them. Only in GSM mode does it make the buzzing sound.


Posted by: cingular#1

Quote:
Originally Posted by ROLLTIDE
Where can I find a list of these markets ?


On the Cingular street level coverage map, you just select "current 3g markets"

and it will give you a list.


Posted by: mbranscum

Anyone know any timelines on Jonesboro or Fayetteville, Arkansas??? Littl Rock area is already blanketed in 3G.

I know these are small markets, relatively speaking, but if anyone has an idea on a timeline I really would appreciate it.

Thanks.


Posted by: redwolfexr

No, most handsets will prefer UMTS at any strength. The data rate for a weak UMTS is still better than a strong GSM signal.

However, even a phone with the right sim card will still take barred networks as a last resort. (unbarred UMTS > Unbarred GSM > barred UMTRS > barred GSM...) Not that there are that many barred networks, generally just while they are deployed.

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Remember that my humming may be related to the FM modulator attached to my Ipod. I always know my phone is about to ring before it does...


Posted by: hayman

After CS told me that 3G should be working in my home town (Collegeville/Trappe PA area) but I did not see the U symbol appear (still the G for GPRS), I travelled to NYC and finally got a taste of the UTMS speeds - I averaged 700Kbps. Rock on. However the 3G map on Cingular's website shows 3G available only 2 miles east of me. How "rural" do you think Cingular will go?


Posted by: ld-runner

according to the person at my local Cingular store, it will be everywhere eventually.


Posted by: TIVOOM

Now showing the "U" on my TyTN in West Hartford, CT I have been waiting for this day!


Posted by: Patsfan123

YES, I just noticed the 3G signal on my phone today in STORRS, CT aka UConn. It wasn't there last night, and I didn't notice this morning when I awoke, so I wonder if they just turned it on within the last hour or 2. But anyways this is freaking sweet. Now if the map didn't lie about my house saying 3G service is there when it isn't.


Posted by: Wrangler3383

Quote:
Originally Posted by Patsfan123
YES, I just noticed the 3G signal on my phone today in STORRS, CT aka UConn. It wasn't there last night, and I didn't notice this morning when I awoke, so I wonder if they just turned it on within the last hour or 2. But anyways this is freaking sweet. Now if the map didn't lie about my house saying 3G service is there when it isn't.


What you pulling for speed in Storrs?


Posted by: Patsfan123



That is through bluetooth, but its not terribly fast. I picked the recommended server, which was Kansas City. It said that was HSDPA on the phone, but I'm thinking that the bluetooth crippled its speed. I will try it again if you have any suggestions. I still need to get a cable since the one I got off of eBay never came.


Posted by: DRC72

Quote:
Originally Posted by TIVOOM
Now showing the "U" on my TyTN in West Hartford, CT I have been waiting for this day!

I just picked up 3G in Cromwell, CT today. Looks like the Middletown area has launched.


Posted by: GinBoy2

For those interested in the SF North Bay some good news. Last week I was waiting for an email from work so i left my laptop connected while I drove from Fremont to Santa Rosa. Up to now 3G has always kicked off in the middle of the Richmond San Rafael bridge, but last week it held all the way upto the Hamilton Field exit on 101 in Novato. Re-confirmed this morning as I drove southbound, 3G lit up exactly at Hamilton Field again. Hopefully it's a good sign that the slow creep north has begun


Posted by: ROLLTIDE

Quote:
Originally Posted by cingular#1
On the Cingular street level coverage map, you just select "current 3g markets"

and it will give you a list.



I want a updated list. Maps online take months to get updated


Posted by: wierdo

Quote:
Originally Posted by mbranscum
Anyone know any timelines on Jonesboro or Fayetteville, Arkansas??? Littl Rock area is already blanketed in 3G.

I know these are small markets, relatively speaking, but if anyone has an idea on a timeline I really would appreciate it.

Thanks.

I've been told early next year for Fayetteville/Springdale/Rogers by several employees, but employees don't usually really know what they're talking about. They haven't installed any new cabinets or turned up any new T1s on the sites I have access to, so it'll be at least a few more months. Believe me, as soon as I see any activity, I'll post about it.

I'm somewhat suprised Cingular didn't roll out NW Arkansas when they rolled out Little Rock, if for no other reason than to beat Alltel to the punch. Alltel has had EV-DO in Little Rock for quite some time now, so no points for that.


Posted by: benfica88

Quote:
Originally Posted by DRC72
I just picked up 3G in Cromwell, CT today. Looks like the Middletown area has launched.

sam here.parts of west hartford, hartford and newington.


Posted by: Wrangler3383

Quote:
Originally Posted by benfica88
sam here.parts of west hartford, hartford and newington.


Where in Newington did you pick it up?


Posted by: DRC72

Wirelessly posted (DRC72's: LG-CU500 Obigo/WAP2.0 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 UP.Link/6.3.0.0.0)

3G is alive and well in Hartford and all along the I91 corridor. I also picked up 3G on the Berlin Turnpike in Newington.




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