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Originally Posted by Sleuth255
WOOHOO! Milwaukee/Brookfield WI area was just (5 min ago) turned up!!!! I actually watched my "G" go to a "U"... damn near fell out of my chair too!
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Originally Posted by capper
So you need a 3G sim to get 3G?
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There is still a TON of real estate to cover, and Verizon seems to be beating them to it here in NorCal, I have noticed Verizon's EVDO has more coverage than Cingular's UMTS/HSDPA does.
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Originally Posted by P1mpPanther
So I'm feeling like a ding-a-ling right now. The reason I'm not getting 3G service here is because I don't have a 3G SIM!! I never received one (used the one from my old Nokia) so I had no idea there even was a 3G SIM until a co-worker recieved his BJ today with a new SIM card.
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Originally Posted by Quatre
Wirelessly posted (HTC-8500/1.2 Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows CE; PPC; 240x320))
ijust got 1057 kbit/sec on dsl reports.com/mspeed speed test in hollywood florida. is that possible to get that high? I'm in a hotel on the beach with view of the ocean. maybe there is a cing antenna on the roof. using cingular 8525 btw |
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Originally Posted by bodeh6
http://www.cingular.com/coverageviewer/popUp_3g.html
Cingular updated it a lot in the last few days. CA is now filled with cities, CT, MA, TX, etc. |
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Originally Posted by rpmura
That list is very optimistic. In the last week, I've been in Pasadena, Glendale, much of Los Angeles. In Pasadena, I barely picked up 3G on the 210 freeway and Lake Av. Nothing in Old Town. In Glendale, the only place I've picked it up is on the 134 freeway. Downtown Glendale, nothing. In Los Angeles, it's very spotty. Downtown L.A., some of west L.A. Nothing in Hollywood, Los Feliz, Silverlake. Burbank was pretty well covered. Looks like they showed 3G on that list if there was even only one square block with 3G. Please tell me it's going to get better than that.
Yesterday, I was at the Grove at Beverly and Fairfax. I would get only the 3G symbol without any bars, and it would try to camp on that signal. It was bouncing back and forth from 3G with no bars to Edge with all bars to no signal at all. |
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Originally Posted by formercanuck
I'm curious to know what kind of speeds you will get (average) on the 3.6 card.
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Originally Posted by PiTT
YOU DO NOT NEED A SPECIAL SIM OF ANY KIND. i have a old AT&T sim and i pick up 3G. dont let those people at cingular tell you otherwise, they just want you to change plans or whatever. anything will do. i used a old AT&T sim on a blackjack and my 3G worked fine here in LA where there was coverage.
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Originally Posted by Sleuth255
WOOHOO! Milwaukee/Brookfield WI area was just (5 min ago) turned up!!!! I actually watched my "G" go to a "U"... damn near fell out of my chair too!
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Originally Posted by P1mpPanther
Does your display show "G" and "U" also?
I have a co-worker who just purchased a BJ and his shows a "3G" instead? I thought I had an older firmware or something? |
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Originally Posted by Sleuth255
WOOHOO! Milwaukee/Brookfield WI area was just (5 min ago) turned up!!!! I actually watched my "G" go to a "U"... damn near fell out of my chair too!
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Originally Posted by jerryk
I think the BJ shows 3G and E and other phones show G and U.
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. Not sure about Racine either.. I have a TyTN which shows a "U".
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Originally Posted by formercanuck
Coverage map shows patches in the area
http://www.cingular.com/coveragevie...sAngeles_CA.pdf |
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Originally Posted by rpmura
That map looks pretty close to what I've experienced. If they went to the trouble of printing that map, does that mean that's all we're going to get for a while?? Please tell me that's not the end of it.
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Originally Posted by formercanuck
Coverage map shows patches in the area
http://www.cingular.com/coveragevie...sAngeles_CA.pdf |
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Originally Posted by DaveTreo300600
Re the Los Angeles 3G map, I live in the hills above Sunset---almost exactly at the West Hollywood dot on the map. Because I live in the hills but am surrounded by other tall buildings, the reception in my condo has generally been poor. But since 3G has been lit, I notice a difference. I seem to get 3G in my garage ans sometimes my lobby, but not in my unit. HOWEVER, in general it seems that I now get better voice reception in my unit. My text service is more reliable. I do notice E reception more often, albeit with not many bars. So Hooray for 3G! because in addition to getting good 3G signal in most areas I work and frequent, it has also improved the voice reception in the difficult area at home.
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Originally Posted by DaveTreo300600
Re the Los Angeles 3G map, I live in the hills above Sunset---almost exactly at the West Hollywood dot on the map. Because I live in the hills but am surrounded by other tall buildings, the reception in my condo has generally been poor. But since 3G has been lit, I notice a difference. I seem to get 3G in my garage ans sometimes my lobby, but not in my unit. HOWEVER, in general it seems that I now get better voice reception in my unit. My text service is more reliable. I do notice E reception more often, albeit with not many bars. So Hooray for 3G! because in addition to getting good 3G signal in most areas I work and frequent, it has also improved the voice reception in the difficult area at home.
I wonder if anyone else has noticed that adding 3G improves voice reception in marginal areas? |
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Originally Posted by rpmura
I've noticed the same thing. I seem to be able to make and hold a call with only the 3G showing without any bars. It's great.
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Originally Posted by formercanuck
use AMR-full rate codec.
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Originally Posted by DRC72
Same here as well. 3G is much more efficient than GSM when it comes to call quality.
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Originally Posted by Wrangler3383
So I drove through Hartford yesterday and Im happy to say that I didnt experience any dropped calls with the handoff to GSM. It must be something related to the specific tower I pick it up on at work. Im just glad its not the phone with the problem.
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Originally Posted by Fiasco
St. Louis MO?
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Originally Posted by DaveTreo300600
Does that mean that the Los Angeles signal strength will increase once 3G officially launches? Oh please! Oh please!
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Originally Posted by codeworks
I live in the Germantown area as well and will hopefully be trying this out in the short term. I dont think it was supposed to extend this far north from Milwaukee, but you never know.
Good to know that it has been turned on however. Thanks. |
?? I was soo happy when I experienced it in Orlando Florida.
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Originally Posted by MrDerby
A question i'm sure is asked all the time here.. But I must keep trying =D
Anyone have any information about Pennsylvania ? When will ANYONE here see 3G ?? I was soo happy when I experienced it in Orlando Florida. |
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Originally Posted by Poopie
I live right on the edge of the 3g coverage in my area. Its actually very spotty. is there a possibility that I can get a 3g signal from my house? Anyone in montgomerville PA? right outside philly getting a 3g signal? I can't justify paying $40 for an edge signal.
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Originally Posted by nieds
It's amazing that the Twin Cities, which I believe is the 14th largest market, still does not have 3G, ugh.
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Originally Posted by DaveTreo300600
Does that mean that the Los Angeles signal strength will increase once 3G officially launches? Oh please! Oh please!
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Originally Posted by cingular#1
no sorry, it won't
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It's working great in the Sacramento area too I wish it were more expansive though- http://howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1074404&page=5 Post#62
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Originally Posted by DRC72
CT 3G is working good buddy.
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Originally Posted by ilvla2
It's working great in the Sacramento area too I wish it were more expansive though- http://howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1074404&page=5 Post#62 |
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Originally Posted by cingular#1
glad to here, I love 3g in North Carolina I consistently get 1-1.5Mbps and have never seen less than 900kbps.
how are speed in CT |
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Originally Posted by ilvla2
I don't know what speed I'm getting on 3G in Sacramento, I can't measure the speeds. WAP and times.
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Originally Posted by DaveTreo300600
Try dslreports.com/mspeed
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Originally Posted by ROLLTIDE
So no one can tell me where I can find an updated list on citys that have 3g ?
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Originally Posted by mkg1325
Does anyone have info on western NY (Buffalo/Rochester/Syracuse) yet? I love using the 3G on my CU500 when I'm around NYC & Philly, and can't wait when I can get it at home in Rochester!
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Originally Posted by jpex1
From buffalo here and wondering the same thing...
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Originally Posted by Kevad007
I am noticing here in the Orange County and LA areas of Southern California fairly often that there are occasions when there is a much delayed response in loading pages, and it seems to be worse in 3G areas when it happens. I am showing 3 bars, sometimes it is varying between 2 and 3 in the same spot, not moving, and then boom, sites that are simple Mobile sites, take 15 20 seconds before they even start to load.
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Originally Posted by ajp00
I know 3G works great in NYC, anyone have any idea when it will be coming to Long Island? On the Cingular maps the coverage on Long Island is spotty at best. Any information is appreciated. Thanks
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Originally Posted by andy4310
Rochester MN is up and running.... maybe the Twin Cities will finally launch soon??
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Originally Posted by Joel954
What!!??? That must be because of the Mayo Clinic being there. Still no sign of 3G in the Twin Cities. What is it like?? I had a dream last night that we had 3G in the Cities. Life was grand. I sure was disappointed when I woke up and saw the E on my A707.
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Originally Posted by andy4310
If I had to go to the Mayo Clinic the last thing that I would be worried about is 3G services on my phone. I live in the cities as well so I have no I idea what it’s like
The MPLS / St. Paul market is among the top 20 markets and it is beyond me as to why we don’t have it yet. I do know that Cingular has been aggressively expanding their voice coverage here and the surrounding area but I don’t know what the problem is with 3G. |
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Originally Posted by dbd
wow nice Dan
PS : where are you from ? |
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Originally Posted by andy4310
Rochester MN is up and running.... maybe the Twin Cities will finally launch soon??
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Originally Posted by CingularZ
It was advised to us that by Spring 2007, all of NYC/NJ/CT should be covered.
Accordingly so, they are above the expected goals of expanding the network, so thats a good thing.. just a matter of time I presume |
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Originally Posted by Tjash2010
Are you serious!!?! Why do I have to live in stupid Minneapolis, why not Rochester?
I would think if cingular was smart they would lauch it in the twin cities, but they dont seem to be very concerned with it. It seems like they are launching it in smaller cities where there are barely 100,000 people. |
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Originally Posted by Joel954
Why don't they like us? What did we ever do to them??!??
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Originally Posted by bobolito
In North NJ we still don't have any 3G in Passaic County or Sussex Co. However, Morris, Bergen, Essex and Hudson Counties have some 3G as well as Middlesex Co.
In NYC, most of the Bronx, Brooklyn and Queens doesn't have 3G yet, although all of Manhattan has it. It seems coverage concentrates around the 3 major airports. There are islands of coverage in Westchester Co. and Long Island. |
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Originally Posted by redwolfexr
There are quite a few variables as to why some markets are first. If there is a MAJOR data customer in the area they can get moved up -- I suspect thats the case in Rochester. Same thing for Frankfort KY, that area is getting a pretty small metro-only coverage. I *know* of a customer that had a Micro-cell installed in the Fort Worth area to make sure they had coverage. Also of one in Nashville TN, though that one wasn't a Microcell.
Frequency carves are complicated as well, even more so if they are planning to implement a 1900 UMTS network in an area with only 850. (they need to locate quite a few new sites in that case) Its also possible that MSP isn't a "dense" area for Cingular customers. (it certainly isn't as dense as Dallas or Atlanta, due to the fact that those areas had very high penetration for both the Orange AND the Blue networks) |
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Originally Posted by bobolito
In North NJ we still don't have any 3G in Passaic County or Sussex Co. However, Morris, Bergen, Essex and Hudson Counties have some 3G as well as Middlesex Co.
In NYC, most of the Bronx, Brooklyn and Queens doesn't have 3G yet, although all of Manhattan has it. It seems coverage concentrates around the 3 major airports. There are islands of coverage in Westchester Co. and Long Island. |
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Originally Posted by ktwildchild
Nashville has wide coverage and even some rural areas. FINALLY! I can use my TyTN in my house.
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Originally Posted by myke81
Middlesex County has 3G.. I'm sitting here in my office in Woodbridge and it works just fine. Edison, Menlo, New Brunswick, etc... I move further away from the window, forget about it. The SYNC goes to E to G.... UGH! I live in Old Bridge and I've got crappy reception inside, I'm literally a few hundred feet away from the tower, and I can't get indoor coverage. Funny though, the past few weekends, on a Sunday... I'm able to get full bars on 3G, but not able to make phone calls. The typical emergency calls only symbol (slash thru the phone symbol), with the message stating something like no voice calls available/unable, etc... I don't get cingular. I really don't....
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Originally Posted by redwolfexr
Its also possible that MSP isn't a "dense" area for Cingular customers.
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Originally Posted by Tjash2010
Are you serious!!?! Why do I have to live in stupid Minneapolis, why not Rochester?
I would think if cingular was smart they would lauch it in the twin cities, but they dont seem to be very concerned with it. It seems like they are launching it in smaller cities where there are barely 100,000 people. |
It obviously isn't a spectrum or network issue (Cingular is awash in spectrum; Chatt is a dual-band market and always has been; GSM switching for Chatt is done out of Nashville, which has 3G)...poor demographics are more likely to blame.|
Originally Posted by dan1431
Part of the issue is that at the moment Cingular is using 1900MHz spectrum for their UMTS network. 1900MHz does not have the penetration power to pass through walls, etc. as 850MHz does, thus the poorer coverage and spotty reception that you have experienced.
I was at a Northern NJ mall today and have noticed that the 850MHz channels have been moved together and seeming renumbered and placed at the top of the GSM neighbor list. While the 1900MHz channels have been grouped together at the bottom of the neighbor list. This is a recent change and a good indication that UMTS is on its way to Northern NJ. I experienced this same grouping of channels back when Palm Beach County went UMTS last year. Dan |
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Originally Posted by PaulieORF
I'm starting to get annoyed. A few weeks ago, every Cingular employee I spoke to said the Waterbury, CT area would have 3G before the end of December. Then, they said it would be sometime in Januaray. NOW they say it will hopefully be up and running by the end of the first quarter of this year.
My bet....We don't see it until Summer. |
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Originally Posted by Wrangler3383
My bet is that every Cingular employee you spoke to had no clue. Most of them dont and are giving dates just to make people "happy". They really dont know whats going on and I dont think the higher ups even want to devulge that info to them. And for good reason, because if you give a rollout date, then you are expected to do it by that date. They are trying to avoid ticking people off by not coming through, therefore they just dont say anything. Unfortunatly its apparent some CSRs dont understand the reasoning behind not giving false dates.
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Originally Posted by myke81
See, this is why I wish I still had worked for Cingular. I left the day before the 3G kick off happened in NYC. I was under assumption that they were using both UMTS networks. I can see why my voice and data are horrible if only on the 1900.......
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Originally Posted by cingulartreo
I heard that 1900 will be for voice and 850 for data, with the better penetration characteristics.
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Originally Posted by newsguyinfl
I had a 3g indicator on my Blackjack for about 20 minutes tonight in the western suburbs of Minneapolis. I didn't speed test, but sling was working better than it ever has in this area. Anyone know if they're actually getting ready to launch in the twin cities?
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Originally Posted by formercanuck
Voice and data run on the same spectrum... this isn't EVDO.
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Originally Posted by wierdo
He means that EVDO and 1x do not share frequencies, EV-DO requires a separate 1.25MHz (rev.A also requires another 1.25MHz for a separate uplink, while Rev.0 uses the existing 1x uplink) of spectrum and the devices can't do voice and data simultaneously.
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Originally Posted by wierdo
Yes. Who ever said you couldn't?
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Originally Posted by exchguy
According to Cingular's chief network mouthpiece, he expected Denver should be up with 3G "by the end of Q1 2007". That will sure be refreshing considering Denver is going to be dead last of the top 20 markets to get 3G. All this while Sprint and Verizon are release EVDO Rev A and now at CES, MediaFLO. I feel like we have been living on a tin can and string with EDGE
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Originally Posted by Joel954
Don't be stealing our thunder there Denver! I'm pretty sure Minneapolis is going to be dead last. What really pisses off is that we have to pay the same price as the rest of the country even though we don't have the same 3G service.
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Originally Posted by ROLLTIDE
Does anyone have any inside info on when Mobile, AL will get 3G ?
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Originally Posted by Joel954
Probably before Minneapolis and Denver... just kidding
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Originally Posted by andy4310
Yea... no kidding
MINNEAPOLIS NEEDS 3G!!!!!!!!! |
for the same reasons posted from other parts of the country (locating..locating..locating..opening.. opening..opening..opening..aww screw it 
) even with the OpenDNS hack so I've switched off 3G and went back to EDGE on my 8525. I only switch 3G back on when I stream DVDs or YouTube through Orb. Hopefully they'll figure out the problem soon.
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Originally Posted by DRC72
I95 from Stamford CT to New Haven is well covered, along with all of I91 in CT.
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Originally Posted by DRC72
I95 from Stamford CT to New Haven is well covered, along with all of I91 in CT.
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Originally Posted by Wrangler3383
And from New Haven to Guilford.
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Originally Posted by DRC72
Is it all GSM past Guilford to the RI state line?
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Originally Posted by Poopie
how do you force it into 3g? I live right on the border and in my room my phone likes to bounce back and forth with egde and 3g.
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Originally Posted by mkg1325
With all this talk about CT...
...does anyone know anything about when it'll be available up I-684? It's already on along I-287 between the Hudson River and I-95, but it doesn't stretch too far north on I-684. And, how about Danbury, CT and I-84? |
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Originally Posted by Wrangler3383
I-84 is already covered up until about West HArtford, New Britain. Not sure about the rest.
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Originally Posted by bobolito
In North NJ we still don't have any 3G in Passaic County or Sussex Co. However, Morris, Bergen, Essex and Hudson Counties have some 3G as well as Middlesex Co.
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Originally Posted by bobolito
In NYC, most of the Bronx, Brooklyn and Queens doesn't have 3G yet, although all of Manhattan has it. It seems coverage concentrates around the 3 major airports. There are islands of coverage in Westchester Co. and Long Island.
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Originally Posted by DRC72
I84 in Southington, New Britain, and Plainville is still GSM only. I haven't had a chance to see if the Waterbury area of I84 has 3G yet.
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Originally Posted by TurboDan
Did they start covering all of Manhattan? It was funny, if you looked at the Cingular 3G map, it cut of literally right where my apartment was on E 81 St. & 2nd Ave. Unfortunately, when I lived there, I didn't have a 3G phone.
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Originally Posted by mkg1325
Waterbury didn't have 3G when i drove through on I-84 (from NY to Worcester, MA) on new years eve.
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Originally Posted by snoopdarr
This thread is huge - is there just a list one can view that has the ares 3G is currently being tested? I can see where it's launched...
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Originally Posted by snoopdarr
This thread is huge - is there just a list one can view that has the ares 3G is currently being tested? I can see where it's launched...
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Originally Posted by DRC72
I84 in Southington, New Britain, and Plainville is still GSM only. I haven't had a chance to see if the Waterbury area of I84 has 3G yet.
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Originally Posted by jlancton
I picked up my 750 at the Cingular store in Westfarms Mall, West Hartford. Had UMTS while there. Driving back west to NY, lost it pretty quick.
No 3G along I-84 from at least Waterbury to the NY line. Nothing in Northern Westchester or Putnam areas as yet either. -Jeff |
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Originally Posted by CingularOrange
Still not 3G in surburbs of Philadelphia damn it!
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Originally Posted by TurboDan
Monmouth County has 3G as well. There are a couple of spotty pockets in Ocean County. I assume that Ocean is next on the list.
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Originally Posted by rhysiez
I'm surprised because I'm in delaware and when I am at the top of the state I get 3G and we are supposed to be in the philly market.
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Originally Posted by imac22
Monmouth County's 3G is very good, Ocean's like you mentioned is spotty in certain locations
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Originally Posted by formercanuck
Does anyone have 3G service in the west San Fernando Valley ? Over the last couple of days, I haven't been able to get 3G service on the 405 past Sunset. I have in the past had 3G into Northridge and definately around Encino/Sherman Oaks, but nothing yesterday.
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Originally Posted by The_Cheat
Not sure if this is the right place to post (sorry in advance if it's not), but I was wondering if anyone had any info on a timeline for Cingular 3G coverage in Tuscaloosa, AL. Birmingham already has it, but I can't find any info anywhere on the possible future coverage in my area.
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Originally Posted by irishkarl
North Hollywood and Glendale are 3G and have been for well over a month or 2 if that helps.
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Originally Posted by formercanuck
I've had 3G coverage at Fry's in Burbank, and in Encino areas before (south of Van Nuys south of Roscoe), and even parts of Northridge and North Hills in the past (Reseda/Plummer ~ -50dBm on 3G), but lately, nothing much on 3G in the north end of the valley. I went clear through the valley last weekend and back w/o 3G service at all (even when forced) on the 405.
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Originally Posted by formercanuck
I've had 3G coverage at Fry's in Burbank, and in Encino areas before (south of Van Nuys south of Roscoe), and even parts of Northridge and North Hills in the past (Reseda/Plummer ~ -50dBm on 3G), but lately, nothing much on 3G in the north end of the valley. I went clear through the valley last weekend and back w/o 3G service at all (even when forced) on the 405.
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Originally Posted by mo-bile
What is the process of getting all of LA on 3G? Why is 3G so sporadic throughout the city? Obviously it's a big city, but it seems so random.
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Originally Posted by formercanuck
I can only say this...Cingular cherry picked 3G deployments within the Los Angeles area to show that it has more cities.
I.E. not all of Los Angeles is covered, but they put up a site or 2 in the following cities to show that they had a lot of cities deployed before the end of the year: Los Angeles city limits ( < 50% coverage) Burbank Glendale Irvine Long Beach Ontario Norwalk Passadena Pomona a little spec in Malibu 3G coverage doesn't even run from the valley to downtown L.A., or I-10 from the 405 to I-5 completely, or I-5 from Burbank/Glendale to downtown L.A. I did the same over the weekend with No Service on 3G only. I called Cingular, and they said there were no issues with 3G service in the area. |
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Originally Posted by rpmura
Yep, That's exactly what they did. Boasting about having all these cities when there may only be a little corner of that city. Old Town Pasadena doesn't even have it, but they say Pasadena has been turned up. Of course my house in Los Feliz is between two areas that are 3G. Better than nothing though. I just wonder when the next wave will be.
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Originally Posted by ilvla2
Any idea when they'll extend it north beyond Sacramento? Even into Pleasant Grove (where my RR School is) and Elverta would be nice, also, what about Yuba City, Marysville, Chico, Oroville, Redding, Red Bluff, Corning, Cottonwood, Willows, Williams and Anderson? Verizon's 3G is much more extensive here in the Sacramento and Northern Sacramento Valley's (most of the cities I listed are live with EVDO), come on Cingular err I mean the new AT&T!
Edit-It is very good all around the city of Sacramento (including the section I live in, on Howe Ave in Arden-Arcade), including the suburbs of Folsom, Rancho Cordova and Orangevale. |
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Originally Posted by formercanuck
I did notice that in the Valley, coverage on 3G was actually quite poor. There were only a handfull of sites on 3G total. It would be one thing if they deployed on most sites, but that's not the case - sites were few and far between, |