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Posted by: shoman94

No 3G that I know of in Maine or New Hampshire

Posted by: Anyting

3G strong in florida

Posted by: ROLLTIDE

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Originally Posted by Anyting

3G strong in florida

Where in FL ?

Posted by: urmobilesky

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does anyone know of the 3G status in the Pittsburgh,Pa. area?

Posted by: Pallux

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Originally Posted by urmobilesky

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does anyone know of the 3G status in the Pittsburgh,Pa. area?

The corporate store told me to expect it sometime in April. Although, I really have no reason to believe them. They are normally pretty clueless.

Posted by: Anyting

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Originally Posted by ROLLTIDE

Where in FL ?

Melbourne Fl its near Orlando FL

Posted by: ilkhan

forum really needs a thread specific search, since I at least couldn't find one.

Any info on reno or I80 from reno to sac? I heard Q1'07 and now pushed back to Q3'07. But the speaker was, well, a rep. No credibility there.

Posted by: exchguy

3g rollouts sure have been quiet so far this year. Hopefully we will start to see more in the spring time frame, as there's only been the 1 main announcement about Conn.. I guess Cingy/ATT is just trying to get the snow dusted off the towers before they can get anything going this year

Still waiting on Denver, Minneapolis and Pitt as the other major markets that Cingular has neglected with 3g goodness thus far.

Posted by: wierdo

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Originally Posted by ilkhan

forum really needs a thread specific search, since I at least couldn't find one.

Pay for premium membership ($3.50/mo) and ye shall receive.

Funny that Howard doesn't document one of the most useful features of paying...

Posted by: petard

I am still anxiously waiting for Minneapolis/St. Paul!

Posted by: formercanuck

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Originally Posted by exchguy

3g rollouts sure have been quiet so far this year. Hopefully we will start to see more in the spring time frame, as there's only been the 1 main announcement about Conn.. I guess Cingy/ATT is just trying to get the snow dusted off the towers before they can get anything going this year

Still waiting on Denver, Minneapolis and Pitt as the other major markets that Cingular has neglected with 3g goodness thus far.

Don't forget Oklahoma City as well.
The interesting part is that Rochester, MN has 3G, according to the online maps (updated yesterday for Jan 31).
http://www.cingular.com/coverageviewer/
Sorry for the cross post

Posted by: eliminator

Any news on Buffalo, NY? We're almost as big as Pittsburgh and just as neglected for 3G.

Posted by: formercanuck

You'll probably get it from Canada first off of Rogers.

Posted by: Neptunetq

UMTS has just been turned on here today in Manassas, VA. Zip 20109. I think I'm now the happiest guy in the world.... My Tytn just became 5 times cooler!

Posted by: MobileServer

UMTS 3G may be turned on here in Twin Cities, MN or maybe beta test.
My BlackJack showed the big G with 3 bars.
The UMTS signal does seem to interface with my car radio.

I've tested both the voice and data service.
Voice service seems to work fine.
Data service seems to need work. I was not able to connect to both
MediaNet and my mail server.

Enjoy the G.

Posted by: outz

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Originally Posted by MobileServer

The UMTS signal does seem to interface with my car radio.

How exactly are you interfacing it with your car radio?

Posted by: MobileServer

The buzzing of the speakers as occurred once in a while with GSM signal.

Posted by: Kevad007

Does anyone know what the typical distance a tower will cover, let's say in a city area like LA or in Orange County, not near any high rise buildings, just basically a flat area with homes and businesses and up what ever is typical, about 25 feet? Now, does this change with Edge vs. 3G, and by frequency? Does humidity or temp. , night vs. day etc... make any major difference? I know inside vs outside a building does. I am really just wondering how close we need to be to a tower to pick up 3G coverage.

Posted by: formercanuck

That would depend on the area and how it is set up for coverage in general.
Assuming you are in a rural So-Cal area (does that really exist?), the sites are probably 60-75'. GSM is running on every site that they will have (unless there's an outage), however, 3G may not be set up on every site. Add to that, its running on 1900 MHz, vs. 850. Instead of full signal outdoors, it may be a bit weak, and you may end up on GSM inside.
Here's what some of So.Cals sites look like. In general, I'd say 1-3 miles.
http://members.dslextreme.com/users/scvw

Posted by: shizri

video calling when?

Posted by: map1978

anybody hear when yonkers, bronxville, fleetwood, new rochelle areas of westchester co will be available 3G?? south of hear in the bronx and manhattan work pretty well and north of hear in white plains works...im stuck in the middle with no 3G

sucks having a blackjack and not being able to use 3G...anybody hear anything??

Posted by: geoffcoplt

Hi all, first post.

I read that Manhattan Beach, CA was covered by UMTS/HSDPA but where I am there is no 3G available. On some rare occasions my aircard will flip into UMTS/HSDPA and work for a few seconds before falling back to GPRS/EDGE.

According to a local Cingular Sales Rep(I realize that they are not always the most accurate info)that means that UMTS/HSPDA is in testing and will go live shortly.

What do you all think? Does that sound accurate from your experiences?

It is nice having it at LAX and not having to pay for T-Mobile at either the AA Admirals Club or the Red Carpet Club.

Posted by: menos

Has anybody heard anything on when they will be switching 3G on in OKC? For the last few weeks I will get a 3g signal that will stick around for a few minutes. Sometimes it's fully functional (data and voice) sometimes just the voice works. Obviously they're testing something. Is this indicative of a relatively soon deployment?

Posted by: formercanuck

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Originally Posted by geoffcoplt

Hi all, first post.

I read that Manhattan Beach, CA was covered by UMTS/HSDPA but where I am there is no 3G available. On some rare occasions my aircard will flip into UMTS/HSDPA and work for a few seconds before falling back to GPRS/EDGE.

According to a local Cingular Sales Rep(I realize that they are not always the most accurate info)that means that UMTS/HSPDA is in testing and will go live shortly.

What do you all think? Does that sound accurate from your experiences?

It is nice having it at LAX and not having to pay for T-Mobile at either the AA Admirals Club or the Red Carpet Club.

I've never seen any official notice that Los Angeles area was ever live (in Cingular's newsroom). I still have issues receiving consistant 3G service on the 405 between 118 and 101.

Posted by: petard

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Originally Posted by MobileServer

UMTS 3G may be turned on here in Twin Cities, MN or maybe beta test.
My BlackJack showed the big G with 3 bars.
The UMTS signal does seem to interface with my car radio.

I've tested both the voice and data service.
Voice service seems to work fine.
Data service seems to need work. I was not able to connect to both
MediaNet and my mail server.

Enjoy the G.

G or 3G? If it is just G, then it is just messing up and showing just GPRS instead of EDGE (my 8125 does that a lot). Dont get my hopes up man!

Posted by: walkguru

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Originally Posted by menos

Has anybody heard anything on when they will be switching 3G on in OKC? For the last few weeks I will get a 3g signal that will stick around for a few minutes. Sometimes it's fully functional (data and voice) sometimes just the voice works. Obviously they're testing something. Is this indicative of a relatively soon deployment?

my friend saw the 3g out by luther, yesterday.

Posted by: duddy

I'm an agent and we were told that 3G access would come to the Matagorda/Brazoria, Texas area in the Fall.

Posted by: mush10

Just an update for the Philly market. The South Jersey Shore area should be completed by Memorial Day. They do not work on the network after that day because of the large volume of people. Also, within the next month or so work should begin in the Harrisburg/Lancaster area. As it looks now, by the end of 2007, 3G coverage will be very widespread in this market. We are looking at Philly and the Burbs (which already is covered), South Jersey, Lancaster/Hburg. Lehigh Valley, and Delaware to be 3G.

Posted by: outz

anyone heard anything about greenville / upstate sc? some sales guy told me maybe april, but he didn't sound too sure.

Posted by: 100thMonkey

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Originally Posted by mush10

Just an update for the Philly market. The South Jersey Shore area should be completed by Memorial Day. They do not work on the network after that day because of the large volume of people. Also, within the next month or so work should begin in the Harrisburg/Lancaster area. As it looks now, by the end of 2007, 3G coverage will be very widespread in this market. We are looking at Philly and the Burbs (which already is covered), South Jersey, Lancaster/Hburg. Lehigh Valley, and Delaware to be 3G.

got any info about more in Northern Jersey?

Posted by: mush10

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got any info about more in Northern Jersey?

Unfortunately, my current dealings are in the Philly market only. I travel to North Jersey frequently, so if I find out anything I'll post it.

Posted by: ilvla2

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Originally Posted by formercanuck

That would depend on the area and how it is set up for coverage in general.
Assuming you are in a rural So-Cal area (does that really exist?)

Yes, there are a lot of rural areas in SoCal, remember, SoCal is much more than just L.A. and SD

Posted by: map1978

anybody hear when yonkers, bronxville, fleetwood, new rochelle areas of westchester co, ny will be available with 3G?? south of hear in the bronx and manhattan work pretty well and north of hear in white plains works...im stuck in the middle with no 3G....it makes me sick looking at the coverage map on cingulars website. this is a crappy situation. I have a Blackjack with no 3G....anybody anybody??

Posted by: albertr

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Originally Posted by mush10

Do you have any information on when central and north of Bucks county PA would be covered?
-albertr

Posted by: JPR

Does anyone have information as when 3G will be available in the Minneapolis/StPaul area?

Posted by: petard

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Originally Posted by JPR

Does anyone have information as when 3G will be available in the Minneapolis/StPaul area?

Nobody knows, I am also eagerly waiting for it here! Will upgrade to a 3G device once it finally is released!

Posted by: mush10

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Do you have any information on when central and north of Bucks county PA would be covered?

Some of this overlaps what I said before, but this is all confirmed. Atlantic City and the S. Jersey shore will be done in May. After that is complete the rest of the region will be ballooned out from the Greater Philly area which has already been complete. From what I was told the growth would start to be noticable by/around October.

Posted by: btmec

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Originally Posted by walkguru

my friend saw the 3g out by luther, yesterday.

I use my data card around NW 63rd and Rockwell daily with no 3G yet. I was told by the Cingular store on Rockwell and NW Expressway that it would be March. I hope it will be sooner.

Posted by: walkguru

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Originally Posted by btmec

I use my data card around NW 63rd and Rockwell daily with no 3G yet. I was told by the Cingular store on Rockwell and NW Expressway that it would be March. I hope it will be sooner.

i live 10 miles nw of wellston, and no 3g yet on my v3xx or my lg cu500.

and i was told march also, by a walmart phone seller. and like you i wish it was today.

Posted by: formercanuck

Furthest west (north ?) on the 101 in the Los Angeles area that I received 3G was 101 @ Winnetka (-55dBm). I lost 3G service before I hit Canoga. On the 405 in the San Fernando Valley, I didn't pick up 3G until near Sherman Way, and it was really weak at 101/405 (-95dBm).

Posted by: mlrrcn2

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Originally Posted by stanswx

Anyone know if/when 3g is coming to Central Illinois? (Springfield, Decatur, Champaign) Just got a 750 and would really like to use the 3g speeds on it.

Thanks!

I also would like to know this. Anyone with any Illinois info, thanks in advance!

Posted by: mr60hertz

Michigan updates? Lansing? F-Town? G Rap?

Posted by: jexx

i was just informed by a reliable cingular source that lexington, ky is going to launch august 28th, 2007. barring no delays, that should be the official date so actually coverage should hopefully be by end of july sometime.

Posted by: StattlichPassat

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Originally Posted by duddy

I'm an agent and we were told that 3G access would come to the Matagorda/Brazoria, Texas area in the Fall.

Cool.

Anyone know the latest on Oklahoma City? Our company has lots of assets around the Yukon area that could benefit from this.

And Tulsa is already live, correct?

Posted by: bodeh6

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Originally Posted by mr60hertz

Michigan updates? Lansing? F-Town? G Rap?

I am getting some signal now in South Lyon/Wixom area.

Posted by: btmec

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Originally Posted by StattlichPassat

Cool.

Anyone know the latest on Oklahoma City? Our company has lots of assets around the Yukon area that could benefit from this.

And Tulsa is already live, correct?

Tulsa is live and expanding. OKC is supposed to be in March

Posted by: cingular#1

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Originally Posted by walkguru

i live 10 miles nw of wellston, and no 3g yet on my v3xx or my lg cu500.

and i was told march also, by a walmart phone seller. and like you i wish it was today.

very soon 4 u

Posted by: walkguru

Quote:

Originally Posted by StattlichPassat

Cool.

Anyone know the latest on Oklahoma City? Our company has lots of assets around the Yukon area that could benefit from this.

And Tulsa is already live, correct?

yes tulsa is live, im been planning to go there, just to see and feel me some 3g,

Posted by: walkguru

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Originally Posted by cingular#1

very soon 4 u

hey hey hey, thats some very good news, thanks cingular1,

Posted by: dbaser

Don't laugh too hard... but any idea when the Mobile, AL area will get 3G? I feel so insignificant...

Posted by: ilvla2

Not as insignificant as I do in Redwood Valley here in NorCal

I'm still waiting for 3G anything, none of the three carriers (Verizon, Edge Wireless(Cingular/AT&T Affiliate),US Cellular) have got 3G up yet.

Posted by: formercanuck

Looks like they're testing as far up as I-5/I-14 split using test channels (~9982). I had signal on valid 3G channels (and could make calls) as far as 210 in Sylmar tonight.

Posted by: stanb

Anyone have a clue in Wisconsin, (besides Milwaukee), specifically Dane, Columbia, Sauk counties? Cingy says early 2008.. They're selling a lot of 3g phones here for a year away launch.. They say it would be an advantage if one where to travel to Milwaukee (?).. I Don't go there unless paid well (no offense to Milwaukee residents)..

Posted by: formercanuck

LOL - I couldn't tell you, however, it appears that most of the state, with the exception of the south east (Madison/Milwaukee areas) and far west (towards Minneapolis) are all roaming.

At least the maps are up to Feb 28, 2007 now.

Posted by: seniorstew

Anyone know when 3G is coming to Palm Springs?

Posted by: jskier

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Originally Posted by dbaser

Don't laugh too hard... I feel so insignificant...

that's nothing. I live in Hawaii and there's nowhere within 3500 miles that has 3G

Posted by: powertoburn

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Originally Posted by formercanuck

Looks like they're testing as far up as I-5/I-14 split using test channels (~9982). I had signal on valid 3G channels (and could make calls) as far as 210 in Sylmar tonight.

3G is expanding in Los Angeles, CA

From Friday morning until Monday Afternoon I had full 3G signal at my home in Silver Lake (Sunset Junction) area. Traveling West On Santa Monica Blvd. there was solid 3G coverage from Santa Monica / Vermont - Santa Monica / Western. Then 3G picked up again at Santa Monica / Vine - Santa Monica / La Brea. There was full coverage. Then sometime in the afternoon 3G vanished all together.

Now, that I am at home on the BJ selecting WCDMA mode - the phone can't fnd any reception.

I wonder what Cingular is doing. It was amazing to have 3G work at home

Posted by: rpmura

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Originally Posted by powertoburn

3G is expanding in Los Angeles, CA

Wow, way cool! I haven't seen it here yet. I live at Hyperion and Tracy St and I haven't seen it here yet, but I was gone all weekend. Hopefully that means that they're getting ready to fill in the gaps.

Posted by: powertoburn

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Originally Posted by rpmura

Last night there was full 3G signal at Sunset Blvd / Descanso.

I do notice that my V3XX does switch over to 3G faster compared to the Blackjack.

Posted by: rpmura

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Originally Posted by powertoburn

Last night there was full 3G signal at Sunset Blvd / Descanso.

I do notice that my V3XX does switch over to 3G faster compared to the Blackjack.

That's probably coming off of the site at Sunset/Silverlake Bl. I drove down Fountain to Vermont, then south on Vermont to the 101 this A.M. and didn't have any 3G on my V3xx. I'll drive down Sunset on the way home today to see if I get anything. So far, I've only seen it in the locations that are on the coverage map.

Posted by: rpmura

Yep, I drove past there on the way home and voila, 3G at Sunset/Silverlade Bl. Then, when it hit the next site at Sunset and Sanborn, back to Edge. I wonder why just the one site. It's a good sign though.

Posted by: formercanuck

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Originally Posted by rpmura

Yep, I drove past there on the way home and voila, 3G at Sunset/Silverlade Bl. Then, when it hit the next site at Sunset and Sanborn, back to Edge. I wonder why just the one site. It's a good sign though.

It varies by the direction I drive...
If I drive south into the San Fernando Valley / Los Angeles, I won't pickup 3G (forced or auto) until I hit the 118.
When I'm driving north, and have 3G, I won't lose it until 5/14 split. I will start picking up test channels around 5/210 though.

Posted by: mpacific

Anyone know what's going on in CT, specifically Danbury? It seems like they just picked a few cities, sent out a press release saying they covered CT and stopped.

Posted by: powertoburn

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Originally Posted by rpmura

I have gotten full 3G signal at home. The site that serves my home would be the Sunset / Sanborn one. I did not even know there was a cell site there.

Locking the Blackjack to WCDMA since yesterday evening does not reveal any 3G signal at all in the immediate area.

Yesterday morning I had full 3G signal at Santa Monica / La Brea it only lasted a few hours.

I wonder what is required to have 3G turned on all the time?

Posted by: weezie

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Originally Posted by formercanuck

Looks like they're testing as far up as I-5/I-14 split using test channels (~9982). I had signal on valid 3G channels (and could make calls) as far as 210 in Sylmar tonight.

Woot! Now it needs to go north about 30 miles

Posted by: formercanuck

That would put it either in Palmdale/Lancaster (north east and up ~2000') or Gorman (north, and up ~4000')

Posted by: ilvla2

How is EVDO on the Metrolink line to Lancaster and Palmdale? http://metrolinktrains.com/lines/li...ntelope_valley/

Posted by: powertoburn

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Originally Posted by powertoburn

Looks like Cingular is testing 3G again

I am getting about 2-3 bars of signal strength at home

Calls will not handoff back to EDGE without a drop. I hope that means 3G will finally be on full time

This is in zip 90029

Posted by: formercanuck

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Originally Posted by ilvla2

How is EVDO on the Metrolink line to Lancaster and Palmdale? http://metrolinktrains.com/lines/li...ntelope_valley/

Never been on the train in the U.S.... only been on Via rail between St. Catharines and Toronto once.

Posted by: ilvla2

You need to get on one

Remember, if you don't use them, you can't complain about them

Posted by: rpmura

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Originally Posted by powertoburn

Yeah, there's a site on top of the building where the Tsunami place is, the building right next to the circus of books. One on the AT&T building in Vermont and Fountain, one in the parking lot of the U-haul on Sunset. One on an apartment building on Los Feliz Bl just west of Griffith Park Bl. (serves my house), one on an apartment bldg on Franklin east of Normandie, one on the building right next to the 7-11 on Silverlake Bl and Effie, One on the building next to the Rambutan Thia restaurant. One on a building on Sunset where it goes over Glendale Bl., just to name a few.
It's looking good. Quite a few 3G sightings in new areas. I know most of the t1 circuits have been provisioned for months already. Lot's of testing I guess.

Posted by: formercanuck

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Originally Posted by ilvla2

You need to get on one

Remember, if you don't use them, you can't complain about them

If I end up having to go into the office in downtown LA (west 7th near 110), then I'll be taking the Metrolink

Posted by: powertoburn

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Originally Posted by rpmura

When I step outside in my backyard I get full 3G signal but once I step inside I get 2 bars at most. Based on the results I would assume it would not be Sunset / Sanborn broadcasting 3G this evening. I have gotten full 3G in my home.

I assume since I am on a hill the V3XX can pick up quite a few sites.

Posted by: formercanuck

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Originally Posted by powertoburn

Yup - similar to how/why I can get service coming into/leaving the valley on I-5 north into Sylar - it high enough up, and if there's not much to obstruct, and panels are pointing the correct way, it should work. Of course, this assumes that the panels don't have a whole lot of down tilt (most are only ~30' anyways).

Posted by: Philmatic

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Originally Posted by formercanuck

Looks like they're testing as far up as I-5/I-14 split using test channels (~9982). I had signal on valid 3G channels (and could make calls) as far as 210 in Sylmar tonight.

Check out my post here: http://www.howardforums.com/showpos...5&postcount=140

3G seems to be spotty in the AV...

Posted by: Philmatic

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Originally Posted by ilvla2

Not as insignificant as I do in Redwood Valley here in NorCal

I'm still waiting for 3G anything, none of the three carriers (Verizon, Edge Wireless(Cingular/AT&T Affiliate),US Cellular) have got 3G up yet.

Get off Howard Forums and get back to BBR you train junkie!

Posted by: formercanuck

Quote:

Originally Posted by Philmatic

Check out my post here: http://www.howardforums.com/showpos...5&postcount=140

3G seems to be spotty in the AV...

Wow - AV (Palmdale / Lancaster) will be more likely to have 3G before Santa Clarita valley. Of course, there's a lot more people in AV, and its a lot easier to deploy (relatively flat). than SCV.

Posted by: seniorstew

3G was on for about 10 min last night around 11pm and went LIVE today here in the desert! Whoop Whoop!

Posted by: formercanuck

I was wondering when it would get into the low desert.
There's enough golfers and rich retirees (as well as casinos now) there to give it a boost.

Posted by: bidwalj

anyone know if 3g is live in northridge around the csun area? might pick up another blackjack if its live in this area now.

Posted by: formercanuck

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Originally Posted by bidwalj

anyone know if 3g is live in northridge around the csun area? might pick up another blackjack if its live in this area now.

CSUN area is (was?) just outside of the area I had 3G. I did pick up 3G test service once at Plummer/Reseda. I suspect if it isn't live, its not far away. I've typically had 3G as far as Reseda / 405 on live channels without forcing 3G service.

Posted by: MyPyle

anyone know when 3g is coming to mariatta, OH?

Posted by: CoryCubed

Anyone have any luck picking up 3g on the broadway extension in okc? I had a customer over the weekend that claimed to be a rep and said they were testing it there. I usually pass by it over the turnpike but I haven't been able to confirm (forgetfullness to check).

Posted by: walkguru

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoryCubed

Anyone have any luck picking up 3g on the broadway extension in okc? I had a customer over the weekend that claimed to be a rep and said they were testing it there. I usually pass by it over the turnpike but I haven't been able to confirm (forgetfullness to check).

i drove up broadway yesterday, but forgot to check for 3g, dang.

Posted by: powertoburn

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Originally Posted by formercanuck

Do the test channels allow you to make calls & use data? I force my BJ to 3G only and find that sometimes even though 3G has full signal my V3XX will not switch over to 3G no matter what. Is this the test channel affecting the phone not switching?

Does anyone have pictures of how the 3G panels look like?

Posted by: DrBaker

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Originally Posted by CoryCubed

Not sure how far out it would reach if it were active, but I was at I-40/I-44 area today and had no 3g.

Posted by: PostDeals

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Originally Posted by jkb246

Its funny NJ and the rest of NYC one of the richest areas in the Country will barely have 3G minus 2 cities by the end of the year. What are they doing

Where in NJ are you? I know cingular wasn't popular up there.

Posted by: ilvla2

I'd like to know when Cingular is gonna expand past Sacramento into Yuba City, Marysville, Oroville, Chico, Redding, Red Bluff, Anderson and Corning. Those places all have EVDO with Verizon, what's taking Cingular soooo long?

I guess it could be worse, T-Mobile doesn't even have EDGE in all of those places

Posted by: luv2chat

Is there one central website that outlines where 3g is offered within the U.S.? I keep hearing mixed messages depending on which carriers you ask.

Posted by: ilvla2

The only place I know of is the coverage locator on their web site, just zoom in some and check the "Show 3G" box. However, there is no way of finding out what areas are up next, even Verizon, who used to have future EVDO areas shown took it off

Posted by: formercanuck

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Originally Posted by ilvla2

The only place I know of is the coverage locator on their web site, just zoom in some and check the "Show 3G" box. However, there is no way of finding out what areas are up next, even Verizon, who used to have future EVDO areas shown took it off

The best way to see what areas (zoomed out) have 3G is to put in a state only.
Once it has a state, then hit the 3G. Its sort of strange, if you zoom in a bit, it won't show it

Posted by: formercanuck

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Originally Posted by powertoburn

No - 3G test channels won't allow you to make calls. In fact... the only way that I can hit them on my ZX-20 is by passing through a 3G service area first with the phone set to 3G only
Eg. going south from Valencia to Los Angeles (I5--> 405), I won't pick up 3G on forced UMTS 1900 until I'm at least at the 118 freeway, and it will show channel 637 (GSM 1900 B Block).
going north from there, it will hit channels that show up in the 9700-9900 range up to I-5/14 freeway (-56 dBm there). My last attempt at a call on test channels dropped my off to 'no service' on UMTS 1900.

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I'd like to know when Cingular is gonna expand past Sacramento into Yuba City, Marysville, Oroville, Chico, Redding, Red Bluff, Anderson and Corning. Those places all have EVDO with Verizon, what's taking Cingular soooo long?

Some of us wonder when they will put some coverage into the west San Fernando Valley as well.

Posted by: ilvla2

That's pretty sad for 3G coverage, man, Verizon is beating them by leaps and bounds!! Yuba City, Redding, Red Bluff, Chico, Anderson, Cottonwood, Oroville, Marysville, Santa Rosa and Petaluma all have EVDO, but no UMTS.

Posted by: formercanuck

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Originally Posted by ilvla2

I agree...I'm glad I only use my phone for voice. I know work is switching over to Sprint (from Nexthell though )
Sprint

VZW

Cingular

Posted by: ilvla2

Any idea why Cingular is behind in 3G coverage?

Posted by: formercanuck

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Originally Posted by ilvla2

Any idea why Cingular is behind in 3G coverage?

They are deploying VERY slowly in CA. Other areas have deployed much faster (Florida, Arizona, Texas, NYC and the east coast in general). As I've told others (many posts ago) that they wouldn't have Los Angeles done for a while, I don't expect Los Angeles county to be complete until the end of the year. 1st quarter is almost done, and no change since 2006, and Los Angeles (the city itself) is far from complete.

Posted by: EtherealRemnant

Its ridiculous that Cingy/AT&T STILL doesn't have 3G anywhere in Colorado... and they don't have any plans to launch it any time soon from what I've heard.

Its okay though. I'm netting Sprint a lot of new customers when I show my friends my EVDO running over 1Mbps and compare it to their EDGE average of 140Kbps... I should start claiming those 25 dollar gift cards...

What the hell... LOUISIANA and OKLAHOMA have 3G but Colorado doesn't?! That's just plain stupid... even for AT&T.

This would be a prize market for AT&T's 3G... we're absolutely blanketed in EVDO here... I've found very few places where I switch to 1X on Sprint's network here... I wonder if AT&T will ever learn...

Posted by: seniorstew

So 3G live in the desert was a fluke.. They turned it on for about 2 hrs (3G signal reminds of Tmo 1900 signal in my apartment.. 2 bars at best) of course getting my hopes up.. went driving down highway 111 and had a very strong 3g signal.. when it does launch I hope they activate EVERY new tower out here instead of just a few as my phone defaulted to EDGE going into Indio.. but hey, its Indio!

Posted by: ilvla2

Yeah, hot as an oven Palm Desert

I was born and raised in SoCal, born in Riverside, raised in West Covina (Covina High Class of 1990), a bit cooler over there in the San Gabriel Valley

I see you guys are getting FIOS soon in the Coachella Valley, I bet that will make up for the lack of 3G, maybe, a bit, kinda?

I'm a bit further north than you hehe, actually 8 miles north of Ukiah in Mendocino County in the map at the top of this page, nice and cool up here

Posted by: formercanuck

Quote:

Originally Posted by EtherealRemnant

Its ridiculous that Cingy/AT&T STILL doesn't have 3G anywhere in Colorado... and they don't have any plans to launch it any time soon from what I've heard.

Its okay though. I'm netting Sprint a lot of new customers when I show my friends my EVDO running over 1Mbps and compare it to their EDGE average of 140Kbps... I should start claiming those 25 dollar gift cards...

What the hell... LOUISIANA and OKLAHOMA have 3G but Colorado doesn't?! That's just plain stupid... even for AT&T.

This would be a prize market for AT&T's 3G... we're absolutely blanketed in EVDO here... I've found very few places where I switch to 1X on Sprint's network here... I wonder if AT&T will ever learn...

Well, the one thing that I can say for why AT&T/Cingular's 3G deployments are so far behind...
1. Spectrum (or lack thereof) - Markets such as Denver are low on spectrum . UMTS requires 10 MHz (5 MHz paired ).
2. UMTS does voice and data (EV-DO does data). Voice handoffs are a little more critical than a missed data handoff - data session can typically resume/reestablish connection, missed voice handoffs (3g-->2g) are bad news.
I do think they could be more aggressive in So.Cal/L.A. with the buildout, deploying a thin 3G coverage (1/4 or 1/6 sites), and in the valley, they are, but are still way behind. The 'soft launch' in December is technically still 'soft', as there are times that I can't even get 3G service down in Encino where I previously did, and has been listed as a 3G area for the past quarter year.

Posted by: ilvla2

I've had several 2G to 3G handoffs at the Railroad Academy in Pleasant Grove just north of Sacramento, all of them failed.

Posted by: formercanuck

Quote:

Originally Posted by ilvla2

I've had several 2G to 3G handoffs at the Railroad Academy in Pleasant Grove just north of Sacramento, all of them failed.

I've had 3G to 2G handoffs work fine at LAX. I've never had (or seen) a 2G to 3G handoff.

Posted by: ilvla2

When I have gone from a 2G to a 3G area the call just drops, so I guess you could say the handoff was a shutoff lol It seems to do it a lot on the fringes of the 3G coverage, at least in the Sacramento area.

Posted by: powertoburn

Quote:

Originally Posted by formercanuck

Well, the one thing that I can say for why AT&T/Cingular's 3G deployments are so far behind...

2. UMTS does voice and data (EV-DO does data). Voice handoffs are a little more critical than a missed data handoff - data session can typically resume/reestablish connection, missed voice handoffs (3g-->2g) are bad news.
I do think they could be more aggressive in So.Cal/L.A. with the buildout, deploying a thin 3G coverage (1/4 or 1/6 sites), and in the valley, they are, but are still way behind. The 'soft launch' in December is technically still 'soft', as there are times that I can't even get 3G service down in Encino where I previously did, and has been listed as a 3G area for the past quarter year.

Most of the hand offs from 3G to 2G results in dropped call in my home. I am picking up 3G from a distant site. However, when 3G is being tested on my serving cell I get full signal. 3G seems to be tested on the nearby site around lunch time. This is in Los Angeles, CA 90029

Orange County seems to have more 3G coverage. Not sure if this is due to the deployment starting South in San Diego.

EVDO for VZW is on a majority of sites but I was in Eagle Rock about 2 weeks ago and EVDO was not enabled on one of the sites in the area.

Posted by: myke81

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Originally Posted by PostDeals

Where in NJ are you? I know cingular wasn't popular up there.

Cingular's popular here.... They'd be more popular, I'm sure, if they'd turn on the damn 3G overlay. I still cannot get an estimated timeframe when the implementation begins.

Posted by: exchguy

Quote:

Originally Posted by EtherealRemnant

Cingular/ATT has been very quiet during Q1 on new deployments. I don't think I've seen any announcements (other than CT i think).. Its clear that there were spectrum or other techinical/political issues preventing deployments in major markets like Denver, Minneapolis and Pitt.

From what I keep hearing is that Denver is supposed to be up by end of q1. They have had the spectrum from the Edge Wireless partnership for awhile now, but were jocking with the FCC for something to turn on the spectrum to allow UMTS to go up. I guess I'll believe it when I see it.

Posted by: ilvla2

I don't think Edge Wireless owns any spectrum in Colorado, at least according to wireless advisor-

http://wirelessadvisor.com/checkzip.cfm?zip=80201

Edge provides the GSM service here where I live, maybe I could drop by the store in Ukiah and see if they know.

Posted by: formercanuck

I suspect that somethings being worked on fairly locally. All the control channels were shuffled again.

Posted by: exchguy

Quote:

Originally Posted by ilvla2

I don't think Edge Wireless owns any spectrum in Colorado, at least according to wireless advisor-

http://wirelessadvisor.com/checkzip.cfm?zip=80201

Edge provides the GSM service here where I live, maybe I could drop by the store in Ukiah and see if they know.

Edge Wireless purchased C block spectrum for Denver in Fcc auction 58 although Edge Wireless does not offer any service in Denver.

See: http://wireless.fcc.gov/auctions/58/charts/58cls2.pdf

I believe Cingular partners with Edge for spectrum like Tmob partners with Cook Inlet.

Posted by: ilvla2

Ahh, cool, I didn't know that. Thanks for the info bro!

Posted by: ItalianAngel831

west goshen/ west chester pa when 3g coming???

Posted by: ROLLTIDE

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Originally Posted by ItalianAngel831

west goshen/ west chester pa when 3g coming???

Nobody knows ! There are no experts in this thread or insiders .

Posted by: ericrwalker

It would be nice to know...I asked about upstate NY a couple of times and go no answer. I wish at&t/cingular would just give us more information.

I want to know if 3G is going to be widespread or just spots all over the USA map. I hope UMTS is going to cover every place there is cingular coverage in the near future.

Posted by: formercanuck

Quote:

Originally Posted by ericrwalker

It would be nice to know...I asked about upstate NY a couple of times and go no answer. I wish at&t/cingular would just give us more information.

I want to know if 3G is going to be widespread or just spots all over the USA map. I hope UMTS is going to cover every place there is cingular coverage in the near future.

The interesting thing to note, is that it would probably take less time to cover a rural area than an urban area. There are probably much more sites in Los Angeles or New York city than there are in many states. Turning on 3G on some of those 200-400' sites cover a very large area, while in the city, the 20-30' sites cover a few blocks.

If it was about having 3G coverage look good on a map, it could have been done by now. Most of the users are in cities, so its a better business decision to concentrate efforts in the city first. The only exception I see is AZ, where there's HUGE 3G coverage between Phoenix and Tucson, where I can assume that its all rural coverage on 3G.

Posted by: Joel954

It's almost the end of the first quarter and still no 3G in Minneapolis. What's the deal?

Posted by: calancaster

Quote:

Originally Posted by formercanuck

I've never seen any official notice that Los Angeles area was ever live (in Cingular's newsroom). I still have issues receiving consistant 3G service on the 405 between 118 and 101.

I haven't seen anything "OFFICIAL" from Cingular/NEW AT&T about Los Angeles either, so I called Customer Service and the woman I spoke to, Donna was quite nice. She spent 20 minutes on the phone talking to me about 3G coverage and said although many cities within Los Angeles County have some 3G coverage, it has not officially launched. The date she gave me for Los Angeles is March 31, 2007.

I'll keep my fingers crossed but I won't hold my breath.

Posted by: formercanuck

I'm sure that deadline was forced down as a requirement to those doing the work. End of Q1 was probably a mandate by those in management. I am familiar with corp deadlines... I live by them every day. I hope that after Q1 2007 they will actually 'start' on other areas rather than just state that L.A. is live, and continue patching whats there now.

Posted by: MI_canuck

3G seems to be down in my area of Detroit metro (Oakland county)... anyone else?

Posted by: ericrwalker

Thanks Formercanuck, that was informational.

Posted by: Joel954

Quote:

Originally Posted by MI_canuck

3G seems to be down in my area of Detroit metro (Oakland county)... anyone else?

Consider yourself fortunate to have experienced 3G. I have a feeling that I will die or the world will end before I see 3G. Patience? What's that???!!

Posted by: ericrwalker

What are you in your 80's? 90's? or do you have a terminal illness?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joel954

Consider yourself fortunate to have experienced 3G. I have a feeling that I will die or the world will end before I see 3G. Patience? What's that???!!

Posted by: andy4310

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Originally Posted by Joel954

Consider yourself fortunate to have experienced 3G. I have a feeling that I will die or the world will end before I see 3G. Patience? What's that???!!

...no freaking joke.

MPLS NEEDS 3G!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: powertoburn

Quote:

Originally Posted by calancaster

I'll keep my fingers crossed but I won't hold my breath.

Los Angeles, CA supposedly soft launched in 12/06. I guess this was just to get 3G in Los Angeles by year's end. I am located in Los Angeles, CA 90029 and the progress Cingular is making is amazingly good. I can see the potential however the problem is that the engineering teams are not testing all the sites all the time. If they are just optimizing things and waiting to turn on all the sites on 3/31/07 I will be pleasantly surprised.

The coverage map for 3G is even overstimated. But, if the sites were all testing the coverage map would be accurate.

Posted by: petard

Wow everyone on customer support that I speak to always says it has been launched nationwide! Its driving me nuts, they wont give me a date!

EDIT: WOW two people in a row say it is already launched! AHH! These "Business care" reps are worse then the normal ones!

EDIT 2: I GOT A COMPETENT PERSON! They spoke to a tech, and they said their system shows it is there, but it hasn't launched yet. They say the equipment is in place, but hasn't been turned on yet.
They said it should be active end of may/beginning of june

Posted by: cve

I was riding the bus in Minneapolis past the Oracle Building on 2nd Avenue and 2 'U's appeared on my 8525. I'll check it out again tomorrow.

Posted by: formercanuck

Quote:

Originally Posted by cve

I was riding the bus in Minneapolis past the Oracle Building on 2nd Avenue and 2 'U's appeared on my 8525. I'll check it out again tomorrow.

2 'U''s ? What's the 2nd U for ?

Posted by: monkey28rb

Quote:

Originally Posted by formercanuck

2 'U''s ? What's the 2nd U for ?

on a 8525 U stands for the 3g connection and the second U means there is an active data connection

Posted by: rpmura

Quote:

Originally Posted by calancaster

I'll keep my fingers crossed but I won't hold my breath.

If it happens 3/31, that would be great, but I hearing 7/1/07 from a very reliable source. Then again on 9/1/07. Phase 1 was 12/15/07, phase 2 is set for 7/1/07, and phase 3 is set for 9/07. Set you sights for 7/1 and if it happens 3/31, we'll be pleasantly surprised.

Posted by: formercanuck

Quote:

I only expect that the areas that are currently show as 3G on the coverage map become 'stable' (i.e. I can drive into Encino / Sherman Oaks and consistantly receive 3G service), and make an official announcement that 3G is up in parts of Los Angeles, so that when you call and complain that 3G service is going up/down like a yo-yo, they'll do something about it, other than saying its not deployed in that area.
I don't think that areas outside of the Los Angeles city limits and basin will see much before the 2nd/3rd quarter of the year (i.e. Santa Clarita, Ventura county, Antelope Valley, etc), as they don't have the San Fernando Valley 1/2 complete yet. Areas outside the Los Angeles area (city/basin) should be quick though, as there are no where near as many sites to upgrade.

Posted by: andy4310

Quote:

Originally Posted by cve

I was riding the bus in Minneapolis past the Oracle Building on 2nd Avenue and 2 'U's appeared on my 8525. I'll check it out again tomorrow.

Ok, they need to stop screwing around with this 3G network already

...this on and off BS is gonna send me over the freakin falls

Posted by: rpmura

Quote:

Originally Posted by formercanuck

Looks like not much of anything happening in the 1st half of this year. Everything happening 2nd half.
Make that 7/16/07 for next phase in Los Angeles. I said 7/1 before.

Posted by: foofighter

well UMTS stops the 405 and 5 junction and the crest at the 73 toll road in OC. I was told by friend who's managing this rollout said i should have UMTS by June in aliso viejo so keeping my finger's crossed.

Posted by: pootyhead

Anyone know any information about Springfield or Worcester MA? Thanks!

Posted by: formercanuck

Quote:

Originally Posted by rpmura

Looks like not much of anything happening in the 1st half of this year. Everything happening 2nd half.
Make that 7/16/07 for next phase in Los Angeles. I said 7/1 before.

That's pretty sad... when it takes more than 1/2 year after the soft launch before they can actually state that ~ 1/2 of Los Angeles is up. I know if I used 3G for data (laptop card), I would have jumped ship already. Luckily, I use it for voice with AMR-half rate disabled. The local reps stated it would be live in Santa Clarita by June/July 2007.

Posted by: andy4310

I am thinking that this delay with markets launching is because Cingy is going to launch 3.6Mbps HSDPA in some cases instead of 1.8Mbps

I could be wrong though

Posted by: outz

Quote:

Originally Posted by andy4310

I am thinking that this delay with markets launching is because Cingy is going to launch 3.6Mbps HSDPA in some cases instead of 1.8Mbps

I could be wrong though

Is this your personal theory, or have you actually heard rumors etc.

Posted by: andy4310

We will just have to wait and see

Posted by: andy4310

Here is exactly what I think, which is based off what I know

I think that 3.6Mbps will start launching in a couple of months (or sooner). Furthermore, I think that HSUPA will start to be available by Q4 2007 or much sooner.

Now, here is what I know combined with some other stuff that I think:

Disclaimer: I could be totally wrong on everything!

1) The bulk of handsets will probably never see high revisions of HSDPA/HSUPA simply because the speed isn’t needed and wouldn’t be used. The highest revisions of HSDPA and also HSUPA will probably be reserved for a couple high-end phones, some PDAs, and laptop cards.

2) Cingular has built out their UMTS network in a way where upgrades wouldn’t be much more then software upgrades. This makes upgrading to faster categories of HSDPA and also deploying HSUPA relatively easy. The HSUPA technology is basically ready to be deployed however there is a lack of handsets/data cards to support it.

3) The LG CU500v appeared on Cingular rebate forms nationwide in November/December of 2006 but never materialized in stores. In December of 2007, a high level representative for LG told me that the release of the LG CU500v was very close… that was right after he successfully demoed SlingBox over Cingular’s EDGE network while tethering. The LG CU500v still isn’t here. Cingular and LG have been touting the LG CU500v as the first video conferencing capable phone in the USA however this was met with little enthusiasm because it was only 1-way video conferencing. Nevertheless, Cingular and LG have promoted this phone internally and externally and announced that an OTA software upgrade for the old CU500 would come out making it compatible with video conferencing… effectively making it a CU500v. Well, the CU500v or the software upgrade still isn’t here and suddenly there isn’t any more talk about the CU500v. Without a fast uplink channel two-way video conferencing just isn’t possible. I think that LG and/or Cingular decided to delay the release of the CU500v so HSUPA could be installed in the device, which will allow two-way video conferencing.

4) Along with the CU500v, Cingular also announced the upcoming Samsung A717 that would support video conferencing. Almost no information about this device has been available since the CES in Jan 2007 however the nearly identical European variants of Samsung’s upcoming USA product line have high categories of HSDPA (up to 7.2Mbps)

5) The Moto V3xx is here and has 3.6Mbps HSDPA

6) January 2007 - HTC announced the Kaiser, originally scheduled for release in spring of 2007 but is now delayed until mid-2007. Just a couple of weeks ago actual photos were released along with the fact that it will support HSDPA for the downlink and HSUPA for the uplink. Speeds are not known.

7) The PC industry has finally moved away from the PCMCIA standard and moved to the ExpressCard standard and this was some time ago now. Unfortunately this means that all new laptops without the PCMCIA slot are not compatible with Cingular’s data cards. Furthermore, some agents haves stopped stocking the laptop cards and are special ordering them only as needed. Indirect Agents typically only make a move like this when they know a new product is on the horizon and fear getting stuck with the old product.

Feb 12th - Option announced their new product line that includes the GlobeTrotter GT MAX, the GlobeTrotter Express, along with embedded modules, and other relative products. These cards are compatible with 7.2 Mbps HSDPA downlink and 2 Mbps HSUPA uplink and are scheduled to be available Q2 of 2007.

Feb 7th - Sierra Wireless announced their new product line that includes the AirCard 880 and the AirCard 881 PC Cards, the AirCard 880E and the AirCard 881E ExpressCards, as well as a couple embedded modules. All offer tri-band UMTS/HSDPA/HSUPA and quad-band GPRS/EDGE. These cards are compatible with 7.2 Mbps HSDPA downlink and 2 Mbps HSUPA uplink and will be available mid-year 2007.

8) The laptop card manufacturers have typically released products that are compatible with technologies that will be available within 4 to 8 months.

9) Cingular and the handset manufacturers would not bother putting this technology in devices that will be mostly discontinued or obsolete soon unless these network technologies are on the very near horizon! There would be no point in putting 7.2 Mbps HSDPA and 2 Mbps HSUPA in devices that will never use it!!

10) What happened to this flurry of markets that were being lit up with 3G? The deployment of 3G has seemed to grind to a halt, just lots of flickering on and off while they test… I think something good is brewing!

11) One of the benefits of the AT&T Inc. and Bellsouth merger for Cingular customers was said to be the faster deployment of 3G products and services.

Disclaimer: This is in no way official information, nor is it derived from official information or even “inside” information… this is all 100% my speculation drawn between events that could be totally unrelated to each other and irrelevant to the topic at hand.

Posted by: mkentala

Has anyone heard if 3g will be available in Colorado soon?

Posted by: mmaximus

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Originally Posted by mkentala

Has anyone heard if 3g will be available in Colorado soon?

No word on when. I've been told (by the Park Meadows store) that all the equipment is in place and is waiting to be turned on. Thats true at least for Denver. Can't say I know anything about the fort.

Posted by: superlftman

Anymore news on Minneapolis/St. Paul area? Someone posted a couple days ago saying that it showed up for a little bit. I'm getting frustrated that Rochester has it before us.

Posted by: andy4310

May/June for MSP

Posted by: Joel954

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Originally Posted by andy4310

May/June for MSP

What year? 2017?

Posted by: andy4310

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Originally Posted by Joel954

What year? 2017?

Lol...

Its is scheduled for late may / early june of 07. Things seem to be on schedule.

Posted by: formercanuck

Looks like higher speeds _may_ be just around the corner (still on EDGE here in Los Angeles county).

http://www.phonescoop.com/news/

Quote:

Cingular to Light Up HSPA in Mid 2007

Today, 3:29 PM source: Wireless Week

AT&T (Cingular) chief technology officer Kris Rinne confirmed in an interview that AT&T will be upgrading its 3G wireless broadband with high-speed uplink packet access (HSUPA) in the middle of 2007. The update to high-speed downlink packet access (HSDPA) improves speeds both on the up and down links. The combined technologies are called high speed packet access (HSPA). Uplink speeds are boosted to 1.8 megabits per second, and downlink speeds will reach 7.2 megabits per second. Real world speeds for HSDPA were in the 400 to 700 kilobit per second range. HSPA real speeds will be faster than that, but AT&T is not releasing any guidelines on what they will be. AT&T is planning to trial the technology in April and launch later this year.

Posted by: exchguy

Quote:

Originally Posted by formercanuck

Looks like higher speeds _may_ be just around the corner (still on EDGE here in Los Angeles county).

http://www.phonescoop.com/news/

LOL, yeah Cingular we're excited about this new super fast upload speed stuff but some of us here out in the boonies like Denver, Minneapolis, Los Angeles, Pittsburgh would just be peachy just to get something faster than EDGE!

I've noticed a couple of the new Sprint commericials are poking fun at these specific markets knowing that Cingular still has no answer in these markets and we are nearing at the end of Q1 07 already.

Posted by: exchguy

Quote:

Originally Posted by maskevich

They've had the UMTS gear in Denver since mid-06. By the time they actually light it up the gears gonna be end of life. I think they are still futzing around with the FCC over that 1900mhz spectrum they acquired/leased from Edge Wireless here which has whats caused the hold up for over a year now.

This stems from the fact that Cingular has never had much of anything for 1900mhz in Denver. Tmobile and Verizon had 1900mhz bands locked up in Denver pretty much. Only thing Cingular had was old 850 (formerly TDMA)from ATTWS days and this is pretty much the backbone of the GSM network in Denver.

They only were able to scrape out 10mhz in 1900mhz (not enough for UMTS) for the origonal GSM deployment until they leased another C block of 1900 spectrum in Auction 58 which was sold to Edge Wireless (i.e. Cingular affilate)

Posted by: formercanuck

Quote:

Originally Posted by exchguy

They only were able to scrape out 10mhz in 1900mhz (not enough for UMTS) for the origonal GSM deployment until they leased another C block of 1900 spectrum in Auction 58 which was sold to Edge Wireless (i.e. Cingular affilate)

10 MHz is the minimum needed for UMTS.

Posted by: andy4310

Quote:

Originally Posted by formercanuck

Looks like higher speeds _may_ be just around the corner (still on EDGE here in Los Angeles county).

http://www.phonescoop.com/news/

Damn, when I predicted this on the last page I never thought any official news would be released this soon!!

I swear to god that I did not have any inside info on this... I just connected the dots.

Posted by: andy4310

Quote:

Originally Posted by exchguy

I expect that the bulk of the areas that dont have 3G at the moment will launch with HSPA

Posted by: formercanuck

Updated map on http://www.cingular.com/coverageviewer
no new 3G service as far as I can tell.

Posted by: tstray

Quote:

Originally Posted by formercanuck

Updated map on http://www.cingular.com/coverageviewer
no new 3G service as far as I can tell.

It looks like it has expanded south in Orange County a little bit. When I look at the street-level map it looks like there is 3G service in Lake Forest now. Before it didn't go any further south than Irvine. It also looks to be in a small corner of Laguna Hills.

Posted by: formercanuck

Local stores now saying between July and September - Q3

for Santa Clarita areas. I suspect that I will have had my Samsung ZX-20 a complete year before actually having live 3G service at my house (purchased Sept 2006).

Posted by: MrDerby

I'm not sure how it's done with such a small foot print BUT 3G is on in the Pittsburgh area aroud the Hines Stadium(Football) area. One of the reps said there was a Cingular office around that area too. I can only pickup the signal in this area then it goes away..

Posted by: powertoburn

Quote:

Originally Posted by tstray

I notice the map makes the 3G coverage appear to be more than it is. For example it shows Santa Monica Blvd. / La Brea to have 3G and this is not the case. There is only 3G once in a blue moon when the site is testing.

Posted by: formercanuck

Quote:

Originally Posted by powertoburn

The maps weren't too far off in Hollywood today - just after getting off of 101/Vine, I lost 3G service. Somehow, I would have expected to see service decent around Hollywood/Highland. I didn't get service down around 5555 Melrose either (although Paramount has a site practically on site - better than -47dBm ).

Posted by: nwok2u

Anyone have an updae on the OKC market?

Posted by: walkguru

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Originally Posted by nwok2u

Anyone have an updae on the OKC market?

soon i hope, its taking forever.

Posted by: nwok2u

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Originally Posted by walkguru

soon i hope, its taking forever.

Are there any hurdles in the way as far as spectrum. Or is it just taking time to get all the towers converted? I assume they have started working on them???

Posted by: walkguru

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i wish i knew

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I just made a voice call on UMTS in Minneapolis (sounded great!). I was unable to connect with data.

Posted by: formercanuck

There have been a couple of posts on forums.cingular.com about 3G service up in Palm Springs and Temecula, CA.

Posted by: ilvla2

Still no 3G in Northern California outside of SF or Sacramento

Posted by: formercanuck

Quote:

Originally Posted by ilvla2

Still no 3G in Northern California outside of SF or Sacramento

What about Stockton and Modesto or Vacaville and Fairfield ?

Posted by: ilvla2

I group Fairfield and Vacaville in with the SF Bay Area, and Stockton is pretty close to Sacramento. As for Modesto, that is Central California to me, I'm talking about north of Sacramento and the SF Bay Area, the "real" Northern Califorina

Posted by: petard

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Originally Posted by cve

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I just made a voice call on UMTS in Minneapolis (sounded great!). I was unable to connect with data.

Where in Minneapolis? I can not wait for 3G to launch, supposedly 2 or so months!

Posted by: andy4310

Late May / early June is the plan for MPLS/St. Paul

Posted by: Joel954

Lies!! They promised end of first quarter last time. I'll believe it when I see 3G on my phone.

Posted by: Germuyan Guy

I briefly noticed a "U" on my Cingular 8525 at Children's Hospital in Minneapolis today. Probably some testing going on before the official launch.

Posted by: jeffmplsmn

Quote:

Originally Posted by Germuyan Guy

I briefly noticed a "U" on my Cingular 8525 at Children's Hospital in Minneapolis today. Probably some testing going on before the official launch.

Twice this week on WCCO radio I heard a commercial stating that Cingular now has 3G in the Twin Cities. They didn't say coming soon, but that it was here. Good to know that some people are starting to see signs of it.

Posted by: ANT64198

Can Anyone Tell Me When 3g Is Coming To Paterson Nj

Posted by: Radiationman

Any word when 3G services will be moving to the northern half of Marin County and any of Sonoma County CA? The coverage maps say that Napa is live and that 3G is live south of San Rafael in Marin County.

The local store said back in December that the gear was in place and that it was expected to go live in March for Sonoma County - obviously that didn't happen

Posted by: BluBlakGldFan26

when will 3g launch in pittsburgh and the wheeling/steubenville markets? Verizon is setting to launch in the Wheeling/Steubenville market late this spring so I'd think cingular would want to get an edge up on verizon by trying to launch 3g before verizon launches with vcast.

Posted by: formercanuck

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Originally Posted by Radiationman

Any word when 3G services will be moving to the northern half of Marin County and any of Sonoma County CA? The coverage maps say that Napa is live and that 3G is live south of San Rafael in Marin County.

The local store said back in December that the gear was in place and that it was expected to go live in March for Sonoma County - obviously that didn't happen

Yeah, they also said it would be December in Los Angeles (Northridge), and there's still no 3G service there, with the exception of a single site around 118/Reseda area. Don't hold your breath, Cingular isn't deploying this all that quickly.

Posted by: Radiationman

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Originally Posted by formercanuck

Don't hold your breath, Cingular isn't deploying this all that quickly.

I couldn't tell.

I'm headed down to San Pedro briefly in two weeks - is it wrong that I'm made sure I knew how to tether my 750 just so I could try out the 3G service in the hopes that it's there?

Posted by: formercanuck

Its possible that they may have expanded to San Pedro... coverage maps show 3G service in Long Beach

Posted by: powertoburn

Cingular seemed to have expanded the 3G coverage on the 101 heading North. 3G use to drop off at Rampart but last night it was still going strong at Vermont.

I went to Disneyland and had expected there to be full 3G coverage but it is very spotty. Only certain parts of the resort have 3G coverage.

Posted by: charrog

Any idea when the Brunswick Georgia area will get 3G?

Posted by: Sword7

Hello folks,

I recently bought Cingular 8525 but.. At my home, I am stuck with 'G' coverage (no 'E' or 'U'). Less than a mile away (a few blocks away) from my home, it has 3G coverage. When will Cingular plan to expand 3G coverage to cover complete Gaithersburg and Germantown area in Montgomery County (part of Wash DC metro area)? At my work, it has 3G coverage (UMTS/HSDPA).

Other many carriers (Sprint and Verizon), my home area has 3G coverage (EVDO) here. On T-mobile carrier, my home area has EDGE coverage.

Thanks!
Tim

Posted by: 100thMonkey

You're most likely getting EDGE with Cingular at home....the 8525 doesn't display an E like the 8125 used to, the 8525 only displays G for GPRS and EDGE and U for UMTS

Posted by: Sword7

Hmmm. Thanks for info. My Cingular 8525 user manual said that it should display 'E' if my home has EDGE coverage. Should display 'G' if GPRS coverage, etc..

Today I went to my work then returned home. I monitored my 8525 for coverage. After I went through Shady Grove Metro station, it turned to 'U' icon. During I approached to that Shady Grove Metro station from my work, it turned back to 'G' icon. At my work, it has UMTS coverage.

I checked 3G coverage map for Washington DC metro area, it is not accurate so well. It said that Shady Grove station and southern part of Gaithersburg should have UMTS coverage but my 8525 said that GPRS/EDGE coverage all times.

Thanks!
Tim

Posted by: Brock2323

I read that Lexington, KY is getting it in July/August this year. Cool.

Frankfort and Louisville already have it though.

Posted by: BluBlakGldFan26

anyone know when steubenville,oh and wheeling,wv will get 3g?

Posted by: ROLLTIDE

Anyone know anything about when Mobile,AL will get 3g ?

Posted by: didefresh2006

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Originally Posted by ROLLTIDE

Anyone know anything about when Mobile,AL will get 3g ?

I'm wondering that myself....I can get it in various places like at Airport & Schillinger and like near Satsuma High School, and maybe at the Cingular stores, other than that, I hope soon....my poor little Blackjack is running on Edge and it was designed for 3g speed.

Posted by: PaulieORF

I stopped by one of the Cingular stores in the Waterbury, CT mall today. The manager was in, and said that 3G will be turned on in the Waterbury, CT area by the end of this month.

Posted by: formercanuck

Interesting point to note in the Los Angeles area...
WCDMA channel shows '512' now vs. '637'.
Looks like Cingular's using AT&TWS old PCS A3 for UMTS

http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/Uls...?licKey=2383986
and was using part of their B license
http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/Uls...jsp?licKey=8882
http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/Uls...?licKey=2392797

Posted by: Wrangler3383