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Posted by: omarqureshi

Any one got any brilliant tips to free up some more space on the device. I have the Qtek, with the Dopod ROM installed. Most obivous candidate would be the ClearVue suite, which I can't uninstall....!!!! I've got about 3MB avail, but need close to 5MB avail to install a GPS software (Copilot Live).

TIA

Posted by: Ishimaru

that's about how much i have. on hard reset, i have about 5MB left!

Posted by: Barnstormer64

Use a T-flash card and install it there?

Posted by: entfla

that is what i did, with the qtek 8500, clearvue is on a separate cd. I installed clearvue on the transflash card and that gave me about 7 megs free

Posted by: pinoymutt

Do you need the space permanently or just temporarily for the install? I had to do a little surgery to get Goodlink installed, but put the files back afterward.

Posted by: omarqureshi

Quote:

Originally Posted by entfla

that is what i did, with the qtek 8500, clearvue is on a separate cd. I installed clearvue on the transflash card and that gave me about 7 megs free

Was Clearview already installed on your device?

Need space permanently.

And can't do t-flash card, program doesn't support it for main program, only maps.

Posted by: hylton

I'm confused, can somebody explain what exactly is going on w/ the 8500 and memory...I thought this device had 64mb ROM and 64mb RAM available?

I've always had piles of app storage and available memory to run apps on my SMT5600 and MPx220. I understand that WM5 probably eats more memory and that the ROM and associated apps take up more space than WM2003SE, but how could it possibly wipe the device capacity totally out.

What is the 5mb referring to above?

I seem to recall someone posted about this before, in comparison to the MPx220, and that it had 5mb compared to about 1.5 on the MPx220...and that would be storage memory (correct?) which doesn't really impact the ability to install and/or save files? Isn't the 'storage memory' just the space used to keep track of missed calls, speed dial settings, etc?

Am I just totally missing something here?

MPx220 after reboot has the following, can someone post the comparison to the 8500 (same values)?

Flash Info
- - - - - -
Device Storage = 32.53 MB
Used = 10.57 MB
Free = 21.96 MB

RAM Info
- - - - - -
Total Memory = 22.94 MB
Program Memory = 21.55 MB
Used = 10.73 MB
Free = 10.82 MB

Storage Memory = 1.39 MB
Used = 611.25 KB
Free = 812.75 KB

I'd like to know before Cingular drops this thing, if I can't install a ton of apps like on my MPx220, I'm not about to buy one.

Chris

Posted by: entfla

Quote:

Originally Posted by omarqureshi

Was Clearview already installed on your device?

Need space permanently.

And can't do t-flash card, program doesn't support it for main program, only maps.

No, cleaevue was nor installed on the phone, but came on a separate cd, that is what allowed me to install it on the card.
I also used teaks2k2, but since i did not try installing clearvue without tweaks2k2 i am not sure if it was necessary

Posted by: omarqureshi

Found 3MB of IE cache... Whoops! Here is how to limit the size...

http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?p=7656098

Posted by: homegeek

Quote:

Originally Posted by omarqureshi

Found 3MB of IE cache... Whoops! Here is how to limit the size...

http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?p=7656098

I used the hack but it did not really free up much space. I love the phone but this free space is ridiculous. I have almost no programs except Resco loaded onto the phone and I still have a little over 4mb of space. Does anyone know if the other roms ie.. Imate or Dopod have more space then the qtek. How can a phone with so much memory have so little free space?

Posted by: pinoymutt

Actually the Qtek ROM has the most available memory of the three! The IMate and Dopod have less because of the choice to put Clearvue in the ROM (Qtek ships it seperately on the CD). And the Dopod has even less than the IMate because of the double-byte (i.e. Chinese) fonts that eat up even more space...

I am crossing my fingers that maybe the upcoming Cingular 3125 ROM has more free space due to their support for Goodlink (i.e. memory hog) because I doubt the upcoming Orange F600 ROM will be much better than the Qtek.

Posted by: conan_troutman

one thing the HTC phones dont have that the mpx 220 did have is internal flash storage

if you have resco toys installed on any HTC applet after having it on the mpx 220 you will notice what I mean for those that haven't see this post number 17 here

http://www.modaco.com/Ways-to-free-...ry-t239835.html

I thinks its a major flaw and wont be going for HTC models again

Posted by: Ishimaru

good luck with your crappy motorola phones!

Posted by: entfla

can someone explain the memory problem?

I have 1 gig of space on my transflash card.

So far everything I have loaded( about 1/2 a gig) including: clearvue, audible, epocrates, smartphonenotes, phatnotes, TCMP, a couple games, a calculator, unit conversion software, music, movies, tv shows have all run off the card no problem( again used tweaks2k2 to make the card an extension of the phone, but i am not sure if it was necessary)

so where is the memory issue? yes if i use internet explorer, the tempory fille memory builds up and i get low memory warnings( i simply delete the files)

Posted by: conan_troutman

Quote:

Originally Posted by entfla

can someone explain the memory problem?

I have 1 gig of space on my transflash card.

So far everything I have loaded( about 1/2 a gig) including: clearvue, audible, epocrates, smartphonenotes, phatnotes, TCMP, a couple games, a calculator, unit conversion software, music, movies, tv shows have all run off the card no problem( again used tweaks2k2 to make the card an extension of the phone, but i am not sure if it was necessary)

so where is the memory issue? yes if i use internet explorer, the tempory fille memory builds up and i get low memory warnings( i simply delete the files)

ok now take out your card and try use the programs you have installed you can not as they are on the card but try installing them on the phone again you cannot as there is not enough room. now go get a moto mpx 220 and install the same stuff onto the phone fits with loads of room to spare leaving the memoery card for things such as videos music pictuers and documents which can be swapped about .

imagine you have four movies on your card on another you have 15 albums of mp3s you want to watch a movie plug in movie card select tcpmp and watch away nbow you fancy some music you swap the cards you want to use tcpmp to play mp3 as it has a grafic equaliser but you havent got it on that particular card your left with the crappy wm player

or say it bussiness related your there showing off your phone saying i can view the files on my phone during the flight...great your boss/secretary sticks them a a flash card for you you swap out the card try to view them but oh buggery clearvue is installed on the card you just taken out, what a moron your gonna feel like at the meeting npot knowing all the info you should.

any how incase you were all wondering why this is the reason HTC gave me

Dear Mr. Sprint,

Thank you for contacting HTC Europe support.
First of all let me thank you for your suggestions. It is to you the customer that we cater and without your input we could not tailor these devices to suit your needs.

Regarding your query and apraisal of the Qtek 8310, the reason for there being much less usable space is that this handset runs MS Windows Mobile 5.0 smartphone where as the MPX220 ran MS Pocket PC 2003se.

Being a newer and much more powerful mobile platform means it has to be bigger to accomodate the improvements and additions to the Operating system.
Not only is the main storage used to accomodate the operating system but it has to accomodate the ROM. Also the base applications that come with the Qtek 8300 are to some extent improved and larger.

Programs like internet explorer keep a cache of the pages you have visited as well.

If you require more space in the main storage you may want to uninstall some of the bundelded applications and only install what you will use/need.

Alternately you could get a 2Gb memory card as these are readilly available in most electrical retail outlets and this size is supported by this device.

Posted by: hylton

This is really too bad...the whole point in owning a smartphone is so that I can have a number of applications with me on a single device, and not have to opt for a PPC or laptop on many occasions. If this is what WM5 has produced on the smartphone platform, I'll be waiting for the first device w/ more onboard capacity...no way in heck I'm spending for a phone that can't even allow 2 or 3 apps to be installed w/o giving me low memory warnings after I surf for a few hours here and there over the course of days/weeks.

If I'm reading correctly above, something like Copilot would totally wipe the device out.

Furthermore, I can't remember the last time I emptied my IE cache in my MPx220...maybe never...to get that message at all would annoy me to the point of throwing the phone thru a window.

Unless somebody figures something out here I guess I'll be sticking w/ my MPx220 for awhile longer. Early on in the StrTrk rumormill, there was mention of a 128mb ROM version late in 2006, if I have to wait until 2007, it'd be worth it.

This discussion has been good, I had no idea that the new WM5 phones w/ 64mb ROMs had this little amount of space left for apps. What a stupid design.

Chris

Posted by: omarqureshi

To followup on my problem, while the copolit min req's said needed internal memory to install program, it actually does not. I installed all to SD card and works great. Now, GoodLink or whatever the email program is is a different story requiring something ungodly, like 14MB of internal, NOT sd card storage.

Posted by: Ishimaru

I have 2MB of storage left, lol.

Posted by: hylton

Quote:

Originally Posted by omarqureshi

To followup on my problem, while the copolit min req's said needed internal memory to install program, it actually does not. I installed all to SD card and works great. Now, GoodLink or whatever the email program is is a different story requiring something ungodly, like 14MB of internal, NOT sd card storage.

that's the only saving point of this issue though, that you can install most apps to the SD card. but once you go that route, you can then really only have 1 card (assuming you always want those apps available). given that swapping cards on HTC smartphones requires shutting down and cracking the phone open, i guess that makes this solution more tolerable.

still, i want all my apps on the phone, i don't use that many, but definitely more than 2.5mb-5mb, i just think it's ridiculous to have that little space available. some forsight should have been used by HTC and they should have put a 128mb ROM on this device.

so, are all 64mb ROM WM5 devices like this? no available space for apps?

if i get the urge for a new device, i suppose i'll be looking at the S200 at this point...

BTW...i noticed back on an earlier review of this phone (TrustedReview.com) the testor mentioned that after a hard reset of of the Qtek branded phone, they had 13mb available ...so what gives there???

13mb would be plenty for most anything other than Goodlink. I believe that's more than or right at what a hard-reset 2125 has, correct?

chris