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Any news on the V3xx or Maxx?
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Posted by: iamthedudeman

Any news on the V3xx or Maxx.

All these threads on the V3i and KRZR which will be obsolete when they come out, who cares. Why no news on the V3xx or Maxx with state of the art tech. These are the Moto' s everyone should be talking about, not the ones listed above with their outdated tech. Let's hear it.

Posted by: bodeh6

You are kidding right? They can't even get the V3i out yet. Don't expect any new RAZR/KRZR of any kind before Q1 2007 at the earliest. That Thread on the MAXX and KRZR are totally unconfirmed. I could start a thread about the K790a from Sony Ericsson and that has as good a chance of getting released by Cingular as those phones.

Bottom Line: Not any time this year.

Posted by: jyalexop2003

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Originally Posted by bodeh6

You are kidding right? They can't even get the V3i out yet. Don't expect any new RAZR/KRZR of any kind before Q1 2007 at the earliest. That Thread on the MAXX and KRZR are totally unconfirmed. I could start a thread about the K790a from Sony Ericsson and that has as good a chance of getting released by Cingular as those phones.

Bottom Line: Not any time this year.

I agree. I see no reason to release the V3i since the V3 is still selling like hoita cakes at $149. They'll make much more selling volumes of V3s as oppsed to expensive V3i's.
That being said, I wouldn't wxpect the 3G RAZRs to be coming out anytime soon. I look for mid 07 for the maxx and Vxx. The carriers are quickly realizing that they are not seeing the return on capital with 3G. My guess is investing on 3G will slow down not accelerate..

Posted by: Naveen

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Originally Posted by jyalexop2003

i think that is the reason we are not seeing any new phones on cingular. the sucess of razr is hurting the people who want some new tech advanced phones.

Posted by: mush10

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The carriers are quickly realizing that they are not seeing the return on capital with 3G. My guess is investing on 3G will slow down not accelerate..

If they had a decent 3G phone selection I think the return would increase. I have not seen one 3G phone released that I would rush to buy and use the services on. The MAXX can change all that.

Posted by: iamthedudeman

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Originally Posted by mush10

If they had a decent 3G phone selection I think the return would increase. I have not seen one 3G phone released that I would rush to buy and use the services on. The MAXX can change all that.

I don't know about that. I am really happy with my Cu500. One of the best phones I have owned in a long time. And I have owned alot. I don't know that I would trade my Cu500 for either of the two mentioned Moto's. I am not really clamoring to get either of the two. There isn't really any improvement as far as I can tell of either of the two Moto's over the Cu500. I just was wondering why people care about the V3i or the KRZR. They are nothing to write home about, old tech and outdated. I am really waiting for a Cingular 3125 with HSDPA, now that would be the perfect phone to me. Only time will tell.

Posted by: mush10

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There isn't really any improvement as far as I can tell of either of the two Moto's over the Cu500. I just was wondering why people care about the V3i or the KRZR

I was referring to the Maxx should it ever be released. A RAZR with itunes or EDGE (2.5 years late) does nothing for me. I agree the LG would be better than those.

Posted by: iamthedudeman

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Originally Posted by mush10

I was referring to the Maxx should it ever be released. A RAZR with itunes or EDGE (2.5 years late) does nothing for me. I agree the LG would be better than those.

I was talking about the V3xx and Maxx.

Posted by: inspector

I think it might be worth buying the v3x at a local dealer...

Posted by: bodeh6

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Originally Posted by inspector

I think it might be worth buying the v3x at a local dealer...

......and having a decrease in reception performance due to the lack of the 850 band on the phone which Cingular uses a lot.

Posted by: jyalexop2003

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Originally Posted by iamthedudeman

The only reason I see to get a 3G phone would be for fast internet.
That said, the CU500 is 1.6Mb HSDPA and the 2 upcoming 3G Razors (V3xx and maxx) will be 3.6Mb HSDPA.

Posted by: ItalianAngel831

i was looking at these phone and right now they b a dream come true cause it new technolongy but by the time it comes out it gonna b old. it a shame cingular take so d@mn long with there phones that they r no good. and the reason 3g not doing good is cause it nothing special. i know i would not use it y would i use the internet on my phone when i paying $80 for highspeed internet that still not that fast. let face it all talk when it come to in reality we will always b disspointed

Posted by: Faceless Rebel

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Originally Posted by jyalexop2003

The only reason I see to get a 3G phone would be for fast internet.
That said, the CU500 is 1.6Mb HSDPA and the 2 upcoming 3G Razors (V3xx and maxx) will be 3.6Mb HSDPA.

By the time these putative 3G RAZRs actually come out, HSDPA will be old news. It will be all about WiMAX.

I doubt very much any American will see the V3 RAZR XXX Vin Diesel Edition or the V3 RAZR MAXXXXXXX until 2008. By then Sprint will be deploying WiMAX (what they're calling '4G') in major cities.

Good old Moto, always 2 years too late.

Posted by: blumoto

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Having used reg. umts in italia and have seen the benefits of it. Just about everyone over there user a 3g nokia or se cing would benefit big time by releasing a nokia or moto 3g model along with the cu500(which i like) you dont have to be a genius to figure out that cing phone policy sucks but as long as they have the most customers and keep selling razrs they will think they r doing everything right sometimes demand has to be created but unfortunately cing has no clue

Posted by: keiri

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Originally Posted by Faceless Rebel

That's all well and good if you're on Sprint.

From what I've seen and heard Cingular is NOT going WiMAX anytime soon - their money is on HSDPA.

For this reason the Maxx is definitely a better deal then the CU500; Cingular only has 1.8 HSDPA deployed (and in limited areas) but has plans to upgrade that to 3.6 HSDPA in the future.

Now the CU500 (IIRC) has a speed limit of 1.8mbps - the current limit but when 3.6 is available that CU500 will still only get a max of 1.8. That's called a bottleneck.

The Maxx on the other hand will release and be limited by the network to 1.8 but when 3.6 is available it will be limited to 3.6; effectively, double the speed of the CU500.

But that's just my opinion...

K

Posted by: jyalexop2003

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Originally Posted by keiri

YUP, thats what i said earlier. If you want fast data don't spend your $$ now on as CU500, but wait till the V3xx and MAXX to arrive. 3.6Mb dowload and more features that the CU500, including voice dialing..However, thes ephones may not come out in Q3/Q4 but early/mid 07..

Posted by: keiri

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Originally Posted by jyalexop2003

Which would be right around the time that Cingular's HSDPA/UMTS network would be at about 50% of their total coverage or, at the least, significantly more than the current amount and thus making pushing more 3G phones profitable for Cingular.

K

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Posted by: keiri

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Originally Posted by GoLDFellah

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LOL. Perfect post.

K

Posted by: mush10

I just do see those phones being out by Q4......It would take a Chrismtas miracle

Posted by: iamthedudeman

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Originally Posted by blumoto

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Having used reg. umts in italia and have seen the benefits of it. Just about everyone over there user a 3g nokia or se cing would benefit big time by releasing a nokia or moto 3g model along with the cu500(which i like) you dont have to be a genius to figure out that cing phone policy sucks but as long as they have the most customers and keep selling razrs they will think they r doing everything right sometimes demand has to be created but unfortunately cing has no clue

I agree 110%.

Posted by: iamthedudeman

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Originally Posted by keiri

You will never see 3.6 speeds or 1.8 in the real world. Maybe 1.8 down the road. So the point is moot.

Posted by: iamthedudeman

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Originally Posted by jyalexop2003

Voice dialing and 3.6 would not be enough for me espicially since you will never see 3.6 in real world use to upgrade to a Maxx or V3xxx. Now a 3125 with HSDPA I would upgrade for.

Posted by: keiri

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Originally Posted by iamthedudeman

You will never see 3.6 speeds or 1.8 in the real world. Maybe 1.8 down the road. So the point is moot.

Just because you won't see it doesn't mean the point is moot.

If your logic was universal that would mean that many of the things we believe would be moot.

My point is at the present, no, you won't see 1.8mbps but when it gets upgraded to 3.6 and 2.0mbps is the standard download speed (this is possible) then your vaunted CU500 is only going to be getting 1.8 max whereas the Maxx would be able to use the FULL 2.0mbps - because it has more available overhead.

And if the prices of both phones are the same (or the difference is negligible) then the Maxx is the better choice.

K

Posted by: iamthedudeman

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Originally Posted by keiri

My logic is just fine bro, If you don't see it how isn't the point moot? During the life of the phones you will not see down load speeds of 3.6mps, that is a guarante in real world use.

I said nothing about seeing 1.8 mbps anytime soon now did I in my post above yours. I said down the road, and 3.6 never, in pertaining to the life of the above mentioned phones.

"You will never see 3.6 speeds or 1.8 in the real world. Maybe 1.8 down the road. So the point is moot."

"Voice dialing and 3.6 would not be enough for me espicially since you will never see 3.6 in real world use to upgrade to a Maxx or V3xxx. Now a 3125 with HSDPA I would upgrade for."

I said you will not see 3.6 and that is the truth. So how isn' t the point moot? Over the life of both phones you might see 1.8 towards the end of the phones lives(technology wise) so I dont' know what post you were reading but it was not mine. I never said you would see 1.8 anytime soon, I said down the road and 3.6 never in pertaining to the life of the phones, reread the post bro. I agree the Maxx is a superior phone, and I would probably get one, I am not arguing that fact if the price of the two phones were close.

If the old V3 is going for 150 and is higher than the Cu500 now with two year old technology, what makes you think that the Maxx or the V3xx for that matter will not cost twice as much, or more? Is it worth it for maybe a 1.8 mbps speed as opposed to a 2 mbps speed or even a 2.5 mbps speed and pay twice the amount of money for the phone, maybe three times the amount? According to your logic a 1.8 as opposed to a 2.0 is a big deal to you, give me a break!

How fast do you need a phone to use data anyway? It is useless in my opinion to have speeds that fast for a phone. So CV will load a little faster, who cares. If you tether, yes it would matter, but strickly for phone use, no it does not matter if it is 1.8 vs 2 or 2.5. A HSDPA card or PDA is another matter alltogether espicially on the business end. But we are not talking about those unless you used the above mentioned phones for business use, then It would matter. It is all on how the phones are used and in what context you use the 3g data for that matters as to weather is is relevant or not. Not the other way around.

Now with that being said I think that the Maxx will be a great phone and superior to the Cu500, and maybe the V3xx will be better as well. That is why I started the thread in the first place to get more info about these two new phones the Maxx and the V3xx. Not to start a running thread on the Maxx Vs. the Cu500 or V3xxx. Can we please stay on topic and not hijack this thread.

"If your logic was universal that would mean that many of the things we believe would be moot."

Really the above post is giving me too much credit, I guess my logic is universal and the things we believe are moot!