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Posted by: jmacdonald801

Warning, I don't take any responsibility for this hack. Proceed at your own risk. Some hacking will be required. I'm not going to provide instructions on how to install drivers or use these tools, other forum members are willing to fill in that information.

You will need to find and install QPST, and have the LG Modem drivers installed that provide the Debug Port. You will have to find these on your own they can't be posted here as far as I know.

You will need to use the EFS Explorer to modify a java permission file on the phone to allow all access by default for all java apps.

Navigate EFS Explorer to LGAPP\Media\Java\ams

Copy the file "permission" from that directory to your computer. Modify it (on your computer using wordpad or notepad) and replace it's entire contents with the following.

domain: Un-trusted
allow: data_network_1
allow: data_network_2
allow: comm_connectivity_options
allow: all_app_autostart
allow: user_data_read_capability
allow: messaging_1
allow: messaging_2
allow: multimedia_recording

Once you have saved the modified file, copy it back to the same directory on the phone and overwrite it.

Once this is done you will need to turn off and on your phone.

Very important: You will need to delete and then re-install any java applications you have installed in order to make the new security permissions take affect. Currently installed apps will keep the old permissions so this has to be done.

I tested with flurry mail and google maps. I never get prompted for security permissions.

If someone could upload their permission file I would appreciate it as I forgot ot back mine up.

-James



Posted by: m0m0

Has anyone else tried this yet?

Nice job JMcdonald!

Just ordered the cu500 online and am awaiting delivery. Looks like this will be one of the first things I'll do as I was worried about the Java perm issue. I use google maps alot and it sounded like quite a hassle to use with the perm thing.

Now.... Any luck finding a hack for the ascending ringtone???



Posted by: ranphi

Ah, very nice! I'll be sure to try this tonight when I get home from work.

Congrats, Jmacdonald801!

(If no one else has yet posted a copy of their default perms file for ya, I'll do it tonight after I get home).



Posted by: kdonnel

Can you do this with bluetooth or do you have to have a cable?

I loaded QPST but I can't get it to see my phone via bluetooth.



Posted by: ranphi

Quote:
Originally Posted by kdonnel
Can you do this with bluetooth or do you have to have a cable?

I loaded QPST but I can't get it to see my phone via bluetooth.


Pretty sure you can only do this via cable, but won't swear to that.



Posted by: kdonnel

I got a cable tonight and made the change.

I did not replace the entire file but instead went to the bottom of the file and found the domain: Un-trusted line and replaced the data there with your suggestion.

I deleted Opera and reloaded. I am not prompted for permission at all.

Attached is the original file. I had to add a ".txt" extension so I could attach it to this post.



Posted by: KlamshellKing

wow, this may be enough for me to buy the cu500... it just seems like the only complete phone out now, i just wish the screen was more like 2.2 inch



Posted by: ranphi

Yup, this worked for me, too. I just did it.

Sorry I didn't post my default perm file last night, jmacdonald! I ended up being really busy last night and didn't have time to do anything with my phone. (I see kdonnel posted his though. Thanks for doing that).

Big thanks, again, to jmacdonald for finding this and sharing the info! I'm sure this will make many CU500 users very happy!



Posted by: jmacdonald801

Quote:
Originally Posted by kdonnel
I got a cable tonight and made the change.

I did not replace the entire file but instead went to the bottom of the file and found the domain: Un-trusted line and replaced the data there with your suggestion.

I deleted Opera and reloaded. I am not prompted for permission at all.

Attached is the original file. I had to add a ".txt" extension so I could attach it to this post.


Wise choice, I wanted to do that but forgot to back mine up



Posted by: jmacdonald801

This is the first attempt at a hack. Glad I could help.

As a java developer by trade, I was convinced there was a way to do this after I learned about QPST.

If anyone has a more recent version of QPST that recognized the CU500 natively instead of partially, maybe there is more I could figure out.

-James



Posted by: wintr

This is a bit off topic, but:

First of all, awesome hack! Great work!

The thing I'd most like to figure out now is how to get the music player to stream music even when the flip is closed. This is my last annoyance with this phone. It plays music just fine with the flip closed so long as they're just mp3's, but if I try to play music using mobiradio (mobitv) or the default music player streaming from orb.com or somafm.com or something similar, it closes the app as soon as I close the flip and the music stops.

I am positive this is either a bug or an intentionally crippled feature. There's no reason they would have to force the phone to stop the running app when the flip is closed.

- paul



Posted by: jmacdonald801

I wouldn't say intentionally crippled, but perhaps short sighted.

I can't think of a way to do it without an upgraded firmware.

-James



Posted by: thelegend_16

This was a great tip.

Spent a lot of time finding the required software (especially the modem...as an old driver simply hung up my whole machine).

I ended up using the "session:" setting instead of "allow:", so that I am still prompted for security reasons...but only once if I so choose.



Posted by: DannyB

Would anyone be able to upload the modified "permission" text? I must be dense or too tired but I'm not sure if I'm editing the focument correctly.

TIA



Posted by: ATravelingGeek

Thanks for this tip; I'll be sure to try it as soon as my data cable arrives. Having to hit 'allow' each time I try to view a page in the Opera browser (free and way better than the internal browser) really defeats the point of using it.



Posted by: thelegend_16

Quote:
Originally Posted by DannyB
Would anyone be able to upload the modified "permission" text? I must be dense or too tired but I'm not sure if I'm editing the focument correctly.

TIA


The first post shows you the modified file. Basically get the file scroll to the bottom and paste the above changes in for the Un-trusted domain. You don't need to modify anything else.

I recommend session: over allow: so that you are prompted once per use of the application (instead of never).



Posted by: jmacdonald801

Quote:
Originally Posted by thelegend_16
This was a great tip.

Spent a lot of time finding the required software (especially the modem...as an old driver simply hung up my whole machine).

I ended up using the "session:" setting instead of "allow:", so that I am still prompted for security reasons...but only once if I so choose.


Speaking of modem driver, which one did you end up using?

I can't find a single one that has worked in tethering mode... I know tethering works fine over bluetooth so it should work...

What is the file name of the modem driver you are using?

-James



Posted by: thelegend_16

Rumor has it that doing a google search for LGUSBModemDriver_Eng_Ver_4.5.exe might pick up the right modem drivers...



Posted by: kastonie

OMG dude you are freaking awesome.... this has to be one of the best things to ever happen to me!!! now i can use google map without the annoyance!!!



Posted by: ropucha66

Quote:
Originally Posted by jmacdonald801
This is the first attempt at a hack. Glad I could help.

As a java developer by trade, I was convinced there was a way to do this after I learned about QPST.

If anyone has a more recent version of QPST that recognized the CU500 natively instead of partially, maybe there is more I could figure out.

-James


I have a version 2.7,built 91



Posted by: wpbear

This is awsome! Is QPST 2.7 the newest? Found it on rapidshare.de. Are we sure the driver file is called LGUSBModemDriver_Eng_Ver_4.5.exe ?

Now all I need is a cable...GRRRRRR



Posted by: thelegend_16

There is a 2.7 build 215 out there (mobile-files.com).



Posted by: wpbear

Quote:
Originally Posted by thelegend_16
There is a 2.7 build 215 out there (mobile-files.com).


Ok is build 215 the newest?



Posted by: jmacdonald801

Quote:
Originally Posted by thelegend_16
There is a 2.7 build 215 out there (mobile-files.com).


I could not find a reference to build 215 on mobile-files.com

-James



Posted by: ranphi

Quote:
Originally Posted by jmacdonald801
I could not find a reference to build 215 on mobile-files.com

-James


It's there. I just went looking for it myself after "legend" posted about it.

I did a forum search for "qpst" and found the download link that way. (Had to wade through a few pages of search results, but it was there).

The name of the software and it's version number were in the thread subject name, if I remember right.



Posted by: sthapit

Hi. I read all the messages on this post and was able to successfully download/install QPST build 215 and the LG Modem Drivers (by doing a search for LGUSBModemDriver_Eng_Ver_4.5.exe). When I run EFS Explorer it is then unable to find the CU500 (the "Phone Selection" dialog has nothing inside). Can someone please help! The java notifications are driving me nuts with opera and googlemaps.



Posted by: thelegend_16

Run QPST Configuration before running EFS Explorer.
If your phone is not showing up on the default ports click "Add Port" button (lower right).
Your phone should be connected to one of these...add that port.
Open EFS Explorer and you should see your phone.



Posted by: ranphi

Quote:
Originally Posted by sthapit
Hi. I read all the messages on this post and was able to successfully download/install QPST build 215 and the LG Modem Drivers (by doing a search for LGUSBModemDriver_Eng_Ver_4.5.exe). When I run EFS Explorer it is then unable to find the CU500 (the "Phone Selection" dialog has nothing inside). Can someone please help! The java notifications are driving me nuts with opera and googlemaps.


Try checking the COM port that's been assigned to your CU500 while it's connected to your computer and then configure QPST accordingly. QPST doesn't check COM ports beyond ports 1 & 2, so if your PC assigns any COM port number higher than that, QPST will not auto-detect your CU500.

You can see what COM port your CU500 is using by looking in the Windows Control Panel at the Phone & Modem Options.



Posted by: sthapit

Hi. I tried what you suggested but no dice after 30 mins. I've posted screenshots of what I'm seeing here coz I figure that'll make it easier.

http://sthapit.googlepages.com/cu500

Thanks for any help



Posted by: thelegend_16

You should select the one that has "Diagnostic" not the modem.



Posted by: sthapit

Ahahahaha. It works. This phone is now perfect for my needs. Thanks for all the help!

Anyone figure out how to run MobiRadio with it flipped closed yet?



Posted by: hagthor

hey, i just did this as well and instead of deleting and re installing your apps i just chose the "version update" option and it totally works that way too! that way you keep your bookmarks and everything is just fine!



Posted by: Faceless Rebel

Incidentally, if you don't want to give all apps access to things like User Data and Multimedia Recording, just take the entries that are already there and change them from oneshot: to allow: instead of adding a bunch of new ones.



Posted by: hagthor

good idea.



Posted by: wpbear

Don't worry if you didn't backup the permission file...I did a factory reset and EVERYTHING was reset, deleted all my ringtones and contacts too. But when I re did the java hack the file was exactly like new, hence I had to re-do the hack.



Posted by: sillex

Loaded qpst & lg modem driver 4.5 ok. I'am able to querry modem from control panel, phone & modem options ok. It see's the phone on com4. I run qpst config. it lists com4, enabled, no phone, baud 115200. Then I run esf explorer and it lists nothing. Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks Larry



Posted by: ranphi

Quote:
Originally Posted by sillex
Loaded qpst & lg modem driver 4.5 ok. I'am able to querry modem from control panel, phone & modem options ok. It see's the phone on com4. I run qpst config. it lists com4, enabled, no phone, baud 115200. Then I run esf explorer and it lists nothing. Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks Larry


What version of QPST are you running? I know the CU500 is recognized by QPST 2.7 builds 91 and 215, but some other (earlier) versions apparently do not work with the CU500.

Also, once you've identified what port your CU500 is being assigned by Windows, you need to run the QPST Configuration utility and add in your CU500 and it's assigned COM port there. QPST won't see it automatically if it's using anything other than COM ports 1 or 2.



Posted by: ClodHopper2

Okay, I think I've taken an idiot pill and need some help, although I realize this may not be the right thread to discuss USB problems. I want to do the Java permission hack, but I can't even get the computer to recognize the phone:

I downloaded and installed the LGUSB driver, but it took 3 or 4 times for it to, apparently, fully load: first wouldn't recognize on modems, then on ports, in device manager.

It looks like the phone is on COM25, but qpst (build 91) doesn't see it, saying the port is busy or not clear.

When I plug the phone in, it does not show up as a mass storage device (or anywhere) and it has a 1gig microsd card.

The phone works beautifully in all other aspects, but I can't seem to get this to fire up, and I think I need some serious handholding.

FWIW, I got the USB cable off of ebay, and I seriously doubt it's OEM (LOL!)

Any ideas?



Posted by: sillex

Wirelessly posted (LG-CU500 Obigo/WAP2.0 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 UP.Link/6.3.0.0.0)

Thanks ranphi! I have the newest opst 2.7 215 I've did what you suggested no luck. Thanks anyway! Larry



Posted by: robwalch76

This is OT but is there anyway to prevent a java app from exiting when the phone flipped closed? Some devices allow this to be set in the jad file, but I haven't seen any docs that cover specfics of the CU500's java implementation. It's annoying that the phone kills the java app when it's closed.



Posted by: ratujoe

You are the MAN! Thank you sooo much. I was able to find the required software and drivers from a google search and on www.mobile-files.com. I can also confirm that this works in Vista RC1. The drivers gave all kinds of warnings, but you just need to click, continue anway. The only thing that I had to do to the phone was configure the port to use com4 and turn off mass-storage.

Thanks again.



Posted by: leesmack

what does removing java permissions allow? thanks



Posted by: pvoorn

awesome.. thanks for the hack



Posted by: ratujoe

Quote:
Originally Posted by leesmack
what does removing java permissions allow? thanks

It will allow you to run certain applications without being prompted to allow a data connection, every time the program wants to use the internet. Very necessary for using google maps.



Posted by: jonathanawalker

How do I get QPST to recongize the Bluetooth serial port I have enabled? And how do i get my phone to recognize this serial connection?



Posted by: long69and

Good Job It was very easy, only thing for some noobies is too make sure and let the phone be recognized as all the different things i.e. LG modem, LG....... then make sure to hit the diagnostics one when running QPST config. other than that all I can say is thanks!!!



Posted by: arturoramos

So far this thread has focused on extending the permissions allowed to Cingular's trusted domains to untrusted domains, namely:

domain: Un-trusted
allow: data_network_1
allow: data_network_2
allow: comm_connectivity_options
allow: all_app_autostart
allow: user_data_read_capability
allow: messaging_1
allow: messaging_2
allow: multimedia_recording

However, there are additional permissions that are necessary to run some really great apps such as MobyExplorer (http://www.bermin.net), GCalSync and Shozu (http://www.shozu.com/portal/). Namely these permissions include:

user data write capability (add/edit?)
contact list write
contact list read

Anybody have any idea how to allow these permissions?

PS This is a great listing of MIDlets that are largely not functional because of the permissions but would be killer if we can get the permissions working given the CU500s connection speeds...

http://www.blueboard.com/smalljava/



Posted by: thelegend_16

I use the following settings:
domain: Un-trusted
session: data_network_1
session: data_network_2
session: comm_connectivity_options
session: all_app_autostart
session: user_data_read_capability
session: messaging_1
session: messaging_2
session: multimedia_recording

and am able to access the file system and contact list. I actually wrote a small program to import the contacts from a gmail account. So I know this is working.

Did you re-install the applications?



Posted by: thelegend_16

I just went to the MobilExplorer site. The problem here is that this is a Thawte Certificate signed application. We have only modified the permissions for non-signed applications. You should be able to download the unsigned jar and have it work (this is how I have my custom app running).

Or you can modify more permissions. Look for the Thawte permission sections (looks like there are two) and add the missing permissions. You would need to do this for all the different certificates for the applications you want to use, so it is probably easier to use the unsigned version.

I downloaded the signed version and the application was able to get the initial file system, but then got security errors. By downloading the unsigned version (note: you need to scroll down a little to see the link), the application works great.

Thanks for mentioning this application.



Posted by: arturoramos

Legend:

Yes, I tried the unsigned version after I made the posting and it seems to be somewhat working. I am still getting errors when I try uploading a file from my phone to the remote site. The file uploads but then I get a timeout error" "421: Timeout (no new data for 900 seconds). Also the refresh option and several other options do not work.

Furthermore, Shozu will not even install using the jad file. I get an error saying that "no authorization for the requested operation."

http://www.shozu.com/d/java/shozu.jad

I can directly install the jar file but then the application continues to give errors. "Activation Error: Record Store Ex..."



Posted by: arturoramos

FYI, this is the Shozu JAD file. I imagine the permissions part is what is causing the error.

MIDlet-Name: ShoZu
MIDlet-Version: 1.7.18
MIDlet-Vendor: Cognima Ltd.
MicroEdition-Profile: MIDP-2.0
MicroEdition-Configuration: CLDC-1.1
MIDlet-Jar-URL: http://www.shozu.com/d/java/shozu.jar
MIDlet-Jar-Size: 223062
MIDlet-Description: ShoZu
MIDlet-Icon: /resources/smalllogo.png
MIDlet-Permissions: javax.microedition.io.Connector.socket, javax.microedition.io.Connector.file.read, javax.microedition.io.Connector.file.write, javax.microedition.pim.ContactList.read, javax.microedition.pim.ContactList.write, javax.microedition.io.Connector.http
MIDlet-1: ShoZu, /resources/smalllogo.png, SnapMIDlet



Posted by: arturoramos

Quote:
Originally Posted by thelegend_16
I actually wrote a small program to import the contacts from a gmail account. So I know this is working.


Are you willing to share the code and/or program? That seems like a useful application given that there is no sync software. Did you see the G-Calandar Sync software on the site I listed?



Posted by: thelegend_16

Quote:
Originally Posted by arturoramos
I am still getting errors when I try uploading a file from my phone to the remote site. The file uploads but then I get a timeout error" "421: Timeout (no new data for 900 seconds). Also the refresh option and several other options do not work.


I don't have a site handy that I can try uploading to. All my servers use secure ftp protocols which this utility doesn't appear to support. However, I was able to download and refresh from ftp://wuarchive.wustl.edu (random site) with no issues (I only grabbed the small md5 file).

Quote:
Originally Posted by arturoramos
I get an error saying that "no authorization for the requested operation.


I get this on a number of files as well. I haven't figured out what is causing this yet. I get this on the GCalSync download as well.

Quote:
Originally Posted by arturoramos
Are you willing to share the code and/or program?


I am planning on sharing it. I just have to create a website for it. The application will most likely only work on the cu500 (maybe other LGs?) and requires that a gmail.csv file is transferred to the phone (I am not aware of a Google API for accessing the contacts). I'll post here when I have a home for the application.



Posted by: arturoramos

Quote:
Originally Posted by thelegend_16
I get this on a number of files as well. I haven't figured out what is causing this yet. I get this on the GCalSync download as well.


I do not get this on the GCalSync. That application seems to be working fine with my phone now... I randomly tried adding a

allow: user_data_write_capability

to my permissions because the GCalSync site stated that a known bug of their software on Cingular phones was:

Quote:
Originally Posted by http://www.gcalsync.com/
On Cingular (US mobile operator), the only available option under "Read user data" and "Add and edit user data" is "Not allowed". This is due to Cingular security restrictions. "Test" fails with a SecurityException when testing phone calendar if you have this problem. Workaround:

* Under Options->Calendar address, add the private address to your calendar. How to find your calendar address.
* Under Options->Username/password, remove the password.
* GCalSync will now use the private address to get the calendar. The login will be skipped, and since your are not authorized you cannot add events to Google Calendar (you only get download, no upload).



Is there such a permission?



Posted by: thelegend_16

Quote:
Originally Posted by arturoramos
Is there such a permission?

No. By setting up your java permissions (according to the start of this thread) and running the unsigned version you shouldn't run into the issue that the GCalSync site mentions.



Posted by: bosng

sorry for the noob stuff guys. i just got this phone and loving it but having some troubles.


here is a pic of my pain



i don't even see where to go or what to do from here. help!

installed lgusbmodemdriver eng 4.5 exe and qspt 2-7

any help thanks



did it on two computers neither one shows any thing with "diagnostic" in it.



Posted by: thelegend_16

Click the "Add New Port" button and see if there is anything there.



Posted by: jmrwiseguy

Quote:
Originally Posted by arturoramos
Are you willing to share the code and/or program? That seems like a useful application given that there is no sync software. Did you see the G-Calandar Sync software on the site I listed?


There is sync sw. Just use the LG PC Sync program with the correct USB drivers. It's been documented on the forum before.



Posted by: Xamindar

Quote:
Originally Posted by jmrwiseguy
There is sync sw. Just use the LG PC Sync program with the correct USB drivers. It's been documented on the forum before.


Hey, where can I download this "LG PC Sync program"? All I can find is a suite from LG that costs money.



Posted by: retired2

I am having the same problem as arturoramos in that the com port shows up with no phone. I have tried another usb port with another com port it still shows up as no phone.
jmrwiseguy suggested that I try LG PC Sync but I too cannot find this program. There are lots of Sync programs. Can someone provide a link to LG PC Sync. LG's web site does not list this program. Thanks for the help



Posted by: jmrwiseguy

I don't have a link to it but I just used google to find it.



Posted by: IlKevinlI

Can you post the link you found because I tried google and I can't find a download link.

Quote:
Originally Posted by jmrwiseguy
I don't have a link to it but I just used google to find it.




Posted by: leesmack

could someone pm me the link i cant seem to find it on google wher ei can download. thanks



Posted by: ranphi

You can find the link to the software here:

http://mobile-files.com/forum/showthread.php?t=31513



Posted by: IlKevinlI

Thank you !

Quote:
Originally Posted by ranphi
You can find the link to the software here:

http://mobile-files.com/forum/showthread.php?t=31513




Posted by: player911

I have a new CU500. I see 5 jar files within the java folder.

00 is Tetris. The others I'm assuming are MobiTV, MobiRadio, and possibly the media player and etc. Now... do I DELETE them all? and reload them from my PC...

Or what. The Instructions say to reload all the java apps... or does that mean that java apps that use this like Opera need to be reloaded?

Basically I'm asking if the default java apps are ok to leave alone. There isn't a flash file to reload this thing if I screw it up.



Posted by: skidpalace

Quote:
Originally Posted by player911
I have a new CU500. I see 5 jar files within the java folder.

00 is Tetris. The others I'm assuming are MobiTV, MobiRadio, and possibly the media player and etc. Now... do I DELETE them all? and reload them from my PC...

Or what. The Instructions say to reload all the java apps... or does that mean that java apps that use this like Opera need to be reloaded?

Basically I'm asking if the default java apps are ok to leave alone. There isn't a flash file to reload this thing if I screw it up.


You don't have to reload the apps, just go to the applications menu, then while highlighting the app, hit the "options" softkey. Select 1: Version update. It will download the latest version and then tell you that the version already exists. Replace? Select yes and it will reload the app, saving all your settings.



Posted by: Xamindar

Quote:
Originally Posted by retired2
I am having the same problem as arturoramos in that the com port shows up with no phone. I have tried another usb port with another com port it still shows up as no phone.
jmrwiseguy suggested that I try LG PC Sync but I too cannot find this program. There are lots of Sync programs. Can someone provide a link to LG PC Sync. LG's web site does not list this program. Thanks for the help



Did you make sure to turn off the mass storage on the phone?



Posted by: Xamindar

Hey sort of off topic, but I noticed I can also use the EFS explorer to copy all the default ringtones to my pc as well as the message tones which happen to be mp3s. Does this mean I can copy my own small mp3 files over to the MsgTone folder on the phone and therefore give my phone custom message tones?

I might try it when I get home but would rather know if it has already been done.



Posted by: staaver

Woo hoo! Just made the change and it works perfectly! Opera is much nicer and Google Maps is now slick and highly usable! Thanks to everyone who contributed to this great hack!



Posted by: ElGatoFlojo

I'm guessing for those of us who only run Linux, there's really no hope.....

(please, keep the OS flame wars to yourself, I've heard it all before)



Posted by: Xamindar

Quote:
Originally Posted by ElGatoFlojo
I'm guessing for those of us who only run Linux, there's really no hope.....

(please, keep the OS flame wars to yourself, I've heard it all before)


Well, that's why you have a windows box still around. Or dual boot. It's not that hard to get a copy of 2000.



Posted by: jmrwiseguy

Quote:
Originally Posted by Xamindar
Hey sort of off topic, but I noticed I can also use the EFS explorer to copy all the default ringtones to my pc as well as the message tones which happen to be mp3s. Does this mean I can copy my own small mp3 files over to the MsgTone folder on the phone and therefore give my phone custom message tones?

I might try it when I get home but would rather know if it has already been done.


Yes, you can change the message alerts; it works fine.

You can also change the other sounds (like the Success sound that plays when you change a setting) but some of those are aac files. You can replace those with mp3 files, just rename them from .mp3 to .aac and they will run ok. Only problem is that the code that invokes them seems to only play them for a specific amount of time so even if your mp3 is 2 seconds long it may only play for .7 seconds.

I backed mine up first just in case I screwed them up in the process.



Posted by: thelegend_16

Quote:
Originally Posted by arturoramos
Are you willing to share the code and/or program?
Just wanted to let whomever is interested: I have finally got the code up on sourceforge. No actual release yet, as I am seeking permission not to use their File Release System, so I can just have it on the website.

http://contactimporter.sourceforge.net/

Hopefully, I'll have an update soon.



Posted by: thelegend_16

Quote:
Originally Posted by thelegend_16
Hopefully, I'll have an update soon.

I started a new thread on this, but the application can now be downloaded from the soruceforge website.



Posted by: dconcord

can anyone please help me out i'm trying to use ultra IM pro but when ever i try to put my display pic it gives me a java security warning that its not authorised to do so by java it says checking java permission checking on it it still does the same thing



Posted by: geekocrat

Thanks so much for the wonderful info on this thread! Extremely helpful.

FYI, it is possible to do this on the CU500 without using QPST. BitPim is legal and free, and runs on Mac, Windows, and Linux. You can connect to the CU500 as "other CDMA" and access the filesystem view. There are excellent docs at the site.

I'd love to work with anyone who wants to develop full functionality for the CU500 in BitPim. Anyone have relevant experience?



Posted by: monkey28rb

when i connect my phone to and try to get in to qpst it does not see my phone?? when i plug my phone in my comp is reads it as removable memory. i downloaded the lg driver but it says its not made to work with windows? if any one can help me i would appreciate it.
Thanks



Posted by: skidpalace

Quote:
Originally Posted by monkey28rb
when i connect my phone to and try to get in to qpst it does not see my phone?? when i plug my phone in my comp is reads it as removable memory. i downloaded the lg driver but it says its not made to work with windows? if any one can help me i would appreciate it.
Thanks

Menu, 9, 7, 2, 2 and try again.



Posted by: staaver

Also ignore the warning about the LG Drivers. That just means they have not been certified by Microsoft, but they work just fine.

BTW, what the previous poster was indicating (I believe) is that you need to go into your phone's Communications menu under "USB Connection Mode" and select "Data mode" instead of "USB Storage Device". I am not sure if these are the exact names of things, but it definitely sounds like you are in storage mode (which is very nice if you are just trying to drag and drop some files over).



Posted by: monkey28rb

ok the modem drivers are installed but not when i go to qpst it does not see my phone and ive tried everything i know but it can still not find the phone.. does anyone know how i can have qpst find my phone?



Posted by: funkrhythm

thanks for the advice about using BitPim, i was able to modify the permissions file using my powerbook g4 without any problems



Posted by: jbzcar

LOL, my CU500 is all screwed up now after trying this. If I try to open either my Games or Applications folders, the phone freezes and then resets.



Posted by: guapinoy

Quote:
Originally Posted by jbzcar
LOL, my CU500 is all screwed up now after trying this. If I try to open either my Games or Applications folders, the phone freezes and then resets.


do a factory reset, you'll erase everything, but your phone won't freeze anymore.



Posted by: only1chip

I had lots of trouble getting QPST to see my phone. I'm using ver 2.7 build 91. I was going to the control panel, "Phone and Modem Options" and it was very misleading. It says the phone is on COM8. COM8 doesn't work.

Then I checked under the Device Manager, and it shows the phone on COM11. COM11 works!

Thought I would share...



Posted by: snoopdarr

Ok, so my phone is set as data device (not mass storage) and I installed the LG modem drivers. But Windows can't see the device. It always pops up the "USB-Serial Controller" driver window and can't find a driver... what gives?



Posted by: TheFuzz

OK, so I am a total noob to editing files on a phone. I got everything to work, and was able to edit the file. I used wordpad to edit it. But, how do I save it, under what format? When I transfer it back to the phone it reads it as a .txt file and the changes do not seem to work. So, what format do I need to save the edited file in? Hope this makes sense.

OK, I figured it out! And, it works amazingly well! I did not have to reinstall, just updated my apps!



Posted by: shafferds

i installed the software and all and have pulled the permissions file so you are saying to delete everythingon that page and just cut and paste the new code and then save and rewrite it back to the phone correct?



Posted by: staaver

Quote:
Originally Posted by shafferds
i installed the software and all and have pulled the permissions file so you are saying to delete everythingon that page and just cut and paste the new code and then save and rewrite it back to the phone correct?

No. You really just want to replace the last few lines of the file that start with "domain:Un-trusted". Leave everything else there.



Posted by: shafferds

oh ok thank cause i wiped everything out and just left that and it works but i will go back and edit it back and do your suggestion



Posted by: blackadder1999

Quote:
Originally Posted by jmacdonald801
Warning, I don't take any responsibility for this hack. Proceed at your own risk. Some hacking will be required. I'm not going to provide instructions on how to install drivers or use these tools, other forum members are willing to fill in that information.

You will need to find and install QPST, and have the LG Modem drivers installed that provide the Debug Port. You will have to find these on your own they can't be posted here as far as I know.

You will need to use the EFS Explorer to modify a java permission file on the phone to allow all access by default for all java apps.

Navigate EFS Explorer to LGAPP\Media\Java\ams

Copy the file "permission" from that directory to your computer. Modify it (on your computer using wordpad or notepad) and replace it's entire contents with the following.

domain: Un-trusted
allow: data_network_1
allow: data_network_2
allow: comm_connectivity_options
allow: all_app_autostart
allow: user_data_read_capability
allow: messaging_1
allow: messaging_2
allow: multimedia_recording

Once you have saved the modified file, copy it back to the same directory on the phone and overwrite it.

Once this is done you will need to turn off and on your phone.

Very important: You will need to delete and then re-install any java applications you have installed in order to make the new security permissions take affect. Currently installed apps will keep the old permissions so this has to be done.

I tested with flurry mail and google maps. I never get prompted for security permissions.

If someone could upload their permission file I would appreciate it as I forgot ot back mine up.

-James

But what of the file extension? .txt?



Posted by: staaver

Put the permissions file on your desktop, doubleclick it and choose notepad to edit and save it. It will save it without an extension. I think you can also force Notepad to save without extension by choosing the "All file types" options in the save dialog for a new file.



Posted by: blackadder1999

I'm trying to read about *CU500 remove Java permission prompt how-to*. Maybe there should be a USB driver thread, and a qpst thread. This forum became "where can i get bitpim and how come my driver is not showing my phone".
I'd love to discuss other topics, but to see the same post again and again is non productive. Sorry to rant, but I'm really interested in customizing my LG CU500.



Posted by: blackadder1999

Quote:
Originally Posted by staaver
Put the permissions file on your desktop, doubleclick it and choose notepad to edit and save it. It will save it without an extension. I think you can also force Notepad to save without extension by choosing the "All file types" options in the save dialog for a new file.

Sorry for the rant again. I do have a question. I appended/changed the permissons file, and I hosed my phone and had to fac reset. No biggie, but thats not the issue, I probably did not make the changes in the right way. Where exactly at the end near untrusted, do I put those text changes?



Posted by: thelegend_16

Replace (this is at the very bottom of the file):
domain: Un-trusted
oneshot: data_network_1
oneshot: comm_connectivity_options

with the items from the first thread or any mods mentioned in this thread depending on what you want. I use session instead of oneshot.



Posted by: DAlba

I have a Mac. Is there anyway for me to do this? Anyone here live in Baton Rouge?



Posted by: jbzcar

Is there a line we can add to allow the photo blog option of the new Opera Mini to work? I get "error" when I try to use it. I figure it's not allowing access to the camera...



Posted by: thelegend_16

Quote:
Originally Posted by jbzcar
Is there a line we can add to allow the photo blog option of the new Opera Mini to work? I get "error" when I try to use it. I figure it's not allowing access to the camera...


I believe the multimedia_recording line should do this. I tried it on flickr and the Opera photo blog with no luck. I wish they gave a little more of the error message. If I get the time later I'll try to write a small Java application that uses the camera and see if I can get more details on the error.

This site: club-java
claims that it should be possible to use the camera through MMA API...



Posted by: blackadder1999

I cut my multimedia service because Cingular charges an arm and a leg. I know that most phones including the cu500 uses wep. NOw that being said, shouldnt I be able to make a modification and go near a starbucks or something and get wi-fi at a hotspot? Sort of like dhcp'ing a laptop?



Posted by: monkey28rb

can anyone send me the new permission file... i keep changing all the things when i send it to my phone it doesnt work.. thanks



Posted by: txmedic03

Quote:
Originally Posted by blackadder1999
I cut my multimedia service because Cingular charges an arm and a leg. I know that most phones including the cu500 uses wep. NOw that being said, shouldnt I be able to make a modification and go near a starbucks or something and get wi-fi at a hotspot? Sort of like dhcp'ing a laptop?


19.95 USD for unlimited data and 200 text messages is alot? I must disagree considering the fact that some dial-up companies still charge that for a whole lot less speed. Now as for the rest of it you should go back and read up on the features of the phone. WiFi didn't make the list. If you want to WiFi go grab a laptop and run down to starbucks. Cingular offers WiFi services for other models of phones that support it such as the 8125 and the 8525, but those services will cost you dearly. It is part of one of their PDA connect plans. If you think t he Media Max 200 plan is too expensive I doubt you want to shell out the cash for a WiFi capable phone and (optionally) Cingular's WiFi access plan.



Posted by: vaio76109

OH MY GOD, I did it! It took over an hour but I freaking did it. What a pain in the ***. Now lets just hope that my cheapo memory card will work!



Posted by: thelegend_16

Quote:
Originally Posted by monkey28rb
can anyone send me the new permission file... i keep changing all the things when i send it to my phone it doesnt work.. thanks


Make sure you reload the applications.



Posted by: blackadder1999

Quote:
Originally Posted by txmedic03
19.95 USD for unlimited data and 200 text messages is alot? I must disagree considering the fact that some dial-up companies still charge that for a whole lot less speed. Now as for the rest of it you should go back and read up on the features of the phone. WiFi didn't make the list. If you want to WiFi go grab a laptop and run down to starbucks. Cingular offers WiFi services for other models of phones that support it such as the 8125 and the 8525, but those services will cost you dearly. It is part of one of their PDA connect plans. If you think t he Media Max 200 plan is too expensive I doubt you want to shell out the cash for a WiFi capable phone and (optionally) Cingular's WiFi access plan.



Here is what is available for California---

Includes 1000 Messages (3 cents/additional messages): You have the freedom to message any way to any one - text, picture, video and IM - without worrying what each message costs. That means every message counts the same. You can send and receive ANY combination of messages. Want to send all picture messages? No problem. All IMs? Go ahead and chat away.

Includes UNLIMITED MEdia Net: With MEdia Net, you can browse the web, check your email, get your sports scores, movie times, weather and news right on your mobile phone. Plus, you can download the latest ringtones, games and graphics. Your information - the way you want it.

Includes UNLIMITED Cingular Video: Play high-quality news, sports, weather and entertainment video clips, on demand on your 3G phone. Get exclusive clips from HBO MobileSM and HBO Family MobileSM-only from Cingular
__________________________________________________ ___________


Which costs an ADDITIONAL 39.95 to our family plan. I would love to know where I can get unlimited for 19.95. I just looked all over cingulars site,and found no plans available for that rate.
I initially purchased my phone with the introductory plan of 2 months free, then they started jacking me. I'm on a family plan. Not to mention I own the cu500 which did cost a bit more than the cheese phones. If you can find the 19.95 unlimited data plan, please by all means let me know where I can sign up.



Posted by: monkey28rb

Quote:
Originally Posted by thelegend_16
Make sure you reload the applications.


yea i deleted Google maps n reloaded it and it still does it... can someone send me the new permission file.. and tell me how to send it in there right for it to work
thanks



Posted by: vaio76109

I tried sending you an IM but you didnt answer. IM me when you get back and I'll see if I can help.



Posted by: txmedic03

The Media Max 200 package available from Cingular (I have the LG CU500 on an upgrade to one of my Cingular Family Share lines) allows unlimited data which is what I use to connect to the internet and download games and applications to my phone. It includes 200 messages and costs 19.95 USD. For about 10 USD more you can have 1000 messages and the same unlimited data.



Posted by: vhuang

Can someone tell me if the CU500 is expecting a CR/LF a CR or just an LF at the end of each line.

I've managed to modify my permissions file but when I upload, restart my phone and reinstall my java apps I'm still asked for permission. I'm wondering if the phone is reading the edits to the file properly.

I'm on a Mac so my lines terminate in CR (ascii decimal 13) only. I know that Unix uses LF (dec 10) and the PC uses CR/LF.

Thanks!



Posted by: partridge

Quote:
Originally Posted by vhuang
Can someone tell me if the CU500 is expecting a CR/LF a CR or just an LF at the end of each line.

I've managed to modify my permissions file but when I upload, restart my phone and reinstall my java apps I'm still asked for permission. I'm wondering if the phone is reading the edits to the file properly.

I'm on a Mac so my lines terminate in CR (ascii decimal 13) only. I know that Unix uses LF (dec 10) and the PC uses CR/LF.

Thanks!


Use BBEdit for the mac to edit the file, and save it without an extension, then just overwrite the old one in the phone with BitPim



Posted by: fysh

Quote:
Originally Posted by thelegend_16
I believe the multimedia_recording line should do this. I tried it on flickr and the Opera photo blog with no luck. I wish they gave a little more of the error message. If I get the time later I'll try to write a small Java application that uses the camera and see if I can get more details on the error.

This site: club-java
claims that it should be possible to use the camera through MMA API...

It says that it can take photos from java, but I don't think the camera works at all in java (no video/pictures). I hope Opera implements filesystem access to select pictures to upload, since Cingular/LG doesn't seem to be much help for fixing bugs.



Posted by: mrbootycall2

Quote:
Originally Posted by ratujoe
It will allow you to run certain applications without being prompted to allow a data connection, every time the program wants to use the internet. Very necessary for using google maps.



I'm very curious. After having this permission done, do you incur any charges(fees) on using this internet application(google maps,opera mini,etc) on your monthly bill?

Right now on my plan, I only have the pay per use plan. This will save me a lot of bucks if I get to use this applications for free.



Posted by: kastonie

Quote:
Originally Posted by mrbootycall2
I'm very curious. After having this permission done, do you incur any charges(fees) on using this internet application(google maps,opera mini,etc) on your monthly bill?

Right now on my plan, I only have the pay per use plan. This will save me a lot of bucks if I get to use this applications for free.



dude it still uses data, this only removes the phone prompting you if its ok to use data. when you are using google maps and you see that data counter count up, if your have PPU, you will get owned...



Posted by: fbagley

I have tried get Bitpim to recognize my phone and it will not. I think I followed all the directions. The only thing I am not sure about is the drivers. I went to the LG site and could not find anything there. I really want to get the permissions changed but keep getting that error message that Bitpim cannot find my phone. Any ideas.
Thanks.



Posted by: txmedic03

If you read back someone posted the exact name of the exe file that contains the drivers...just do a google for that file and download it. That's how I got it.

I don't recall anyone posting anything about it, so I will ask...Windows XP 64-bit...anyone seen drivers for this phone or heard of any hope for the future or am I stuck doing all this in Windows XP 32-bit? I know I am pushing away from the topic, but additionally if anyone could tell me if there is any hope of charging via the usb cable the information would be most appriciated. The hack worked flawlessly and having the drivers and the software which I obtained as a direct result of reading this thread allowed me to change my message alert tones and remove all the annoying sounds from my phone.



Posted by: CaffeineGamer

Has anyone got this to work though bluetooth yet or do I have to go and buy a USB cable?

Thank You for all of your information.



Posted by: ram0135

Hey CaffeineGamer, you most likely are going to have to go out and purchase a USB cable. Mainly because even if you were able to connect via the Serial service on bluetooth, you need access to the diagnostic port (used for programming and such) which won't be accessible via bluetooth to QPST or any programs for that matter.



Posted by: txmedic03

Well, it appeared to connect via BT with BitPim to be able to make changes to files on the phone, but I was never able to get a file list from the phone. I'm sticking with my USB cable.



Posted by: CaffeineGamer

Quote:
Originally Posted by txmedic03
Well, it appeared to connect via BT with BitPim to be able to make changes to files on the phone, but I was never able to get a file list from the phone. I'm sticking with my USB cable.



you got the CU500 to work in bitpim? How? It isnt on the phone list and I cant figure it out.

Thanks.
Caffeinegamer



Posted by: merlinof2

This information was awesome. The only modification I made was to use BitPim instead of QPST. QPST refused to see my phone and BitPim worked immediately.
Great work jmacdonald801. Google Maps is now useable... now I can binge on Java apps.



Posted by: stevo.akc

This was my first time doing anything to a phone that involved any type of hacking but I was able to do it fairly fast after I downloaded everything I needed. Thanks jmacdonald and everyone else for your input and know how. I'm glad I found this forum.



Posted by: Zeus974

here's the permission file that I backed up, I saved it as permission 2 so you'll have to rename it.



Posted by: txmedic03

Well, CaffeineGamer, if you load the LG USB drivers then the phone will be recognized by BitPim as a sort of generic device. This will allow you to access the file system, but not things like the phone book.

If you need more detailed instructions for using BitPim I'd be happy to help, but reading back over this thread should answer the questions for you. That's what got me through it at least.



Posted by: see-you-500

How do you not save as a text file? Or, is it okay to put the edited file back onto the phone as a .txt file?

thanks



Posted by: thelegend_16

Quote:
Originally Posted by see-you-500
How do you not save as a text file? Or, is it okay to put the edited file back onto the phone as a .txt file?

thanks


Do not put it back as a .txt file, it won't work. After you make your modifications if you have the .txt extension simply right-click on the file and rename it. permission.txt -> permissions

put this renamed file on the phone.



Posted by: see-you-500

thanks. i'm an idiot.

works perfectly now.



Posted by: Otto42

Just got my data cable. QPST would not work for me (would not let me copy files off the phone), but BitPim did. BitPim did give me an issue trying to copy the file back to the phone, saying something about how the Phone provider had blocked files from being modified in that directory. However, I rebooted the phone and tried again and it worked. I suspect the file was locked because it actually in use or something along those lines.

Anyway, after changing the file and doing Version Update on several apps, they stopped asking to connect to the network. Very nice. Good job figuring this one out!



Posted by: duuuma

Does BitPim or QPST require a memory card to be in the phone to detect it as a storage device?

Also, are you guys just buying the regular data cables from eBay or is there a specialized cable?

thanks!



Posted by: hoops19

howdy all... First a thanks to Jmc for what could be the realization of my dreams. Second, I just got my LG 500... I have read all nine pages on the thread and feel like all questions I face can be answered with this resource. BUT... am I too late to the game?? All of the driver and links appear to be expired... any help on where to find the modem driver and qpst is GREATLY appreciated.... Cheers from Austin..



Posted by: duuuma

you're from Austin and can't effectively use the internet? that's the tech capital of the south my friend!

I'm just kidding with you. BitPm is opensource and is googlable:

http://www.bitpim.org/#download

the LG drivers are hinted earlier in this thread but if you google "LGUSBModemDriver_Eng_Ver_4.5.exe" you will find the cingular user forums with a download link.

If the link is dead from cingular forums, i'll email it to you when i get home. Just reply back to this thread.



Posted by: epops

FWIW, and as thanks to all the useful information, this page

http://au.lgmobile.com/webwar/jsp/phones/mnswList.jsp

has a software download for TU500, which is the same as our CU500. It includes a USB driver, Outlook/ Outlook Express sync program and Phone Manager app which lets you add, modify or delete contact info on your PC then send it back to the phone.

Disconnect the data cable before installing the USB driiver, and you might have to power the phone off/on if it doesn't see your phone.

I don't use Outlook so can't say anything, but Phone Manager is great. Bitpim sees my phone but I haven't gone any further with that yet.

There's another bitpim hack, and good information, at

http://comerford.cc/wordpress/?page_id=146

(which links back to this thread).

Hope this helps someone down the line,

John



Posted by: Jeffwo

Quote:
Originally Posted by thelegend_16
I started a new thread on this, but the application can now be downloaded from the soruceforge website.



Thx! Found it.

Jeff



Posted by: H82typ

I just got the CU400 and was wondering how similar it is to the 500. I don't have a (working)pc at the moment, and have no experience with editing. I use Opera Mini exclusively and the ask once per page thing is getting old,fast. TIA



Posted by: vaio76109

Ok, I did it once before but I had to get a new phone and I can't figure out how to do it again. I can't get the phone to show up under the EFS Expolorer.

EDIT-NVM, it just showed up now



Posted by: beachbt

I am sorry to report that the Java permissions hack does NOT work for Google Maps. Anybody have any other ideas?



Posted by: beachbt

Apologies, I solved the Java hacks problem. I didn't read far enough upstream in this thread. I finally realized that you have to delete all Java apps and then reinstall for the hack to work.

BT



Posted by: cellzzzz

When I download either the 'signed' or 'unsigned' versions of GCALSYNC onto my CU500v it gives me the following error:

"909 Application authentication failure. Content provider certificate expired."

I have the permissions installed as wide open (untrusted/allow). I can also alternatively download the .jar and .jad files onto the phone (into the 'ams' directory) but after this point I dont know how to load them.

How can I fix this? GCALSYNC has the potential (along with opera) to make this phone unbelievable... Please help!



Posted by: pfraterdeus

Any idea if this applet will work with the CU515?
It's incredibly frustrating that you can't simply drag the vcf files across by bluetooth. Why the heck not??

http://contactimporter.sourceforge.net/



Posted by: akayjin

I did all of those but the jar file that I put on my cellphone is in other file section and doesn't work...help!



Posted by: gaspar_4444

I've followed the steps explained above, but I can't get it working.

When I try to download the Opera Mini's file the regular browser give me a message of "903 loss of service" So I can't get it working.

I'm using an AT&T cellphone I bought on eBay with Personal Argentina's network. I think the matter is that I'm not with the AT&T connection settings due I'm not in the USA.

Anyone from Canada? Any ideas? I'll post the modified files, I tried changing the entire document and changing only the content at the bottom of the file.

Thanks in advance!



Posted by: IVONNEMURILLO

hola mi nombre es ivonne y soy colombiana tengo este celular lg cu500 no hablo muy bien ingles... tengo el problema que no puedo instalar juegos en el celular..quiero modificar el java pero no puedo no entiendo algunas instruciones ...ya tengo el programa bitpim ayudenme por favor

hello my name is ivonne and I am Colombian I have this cellular lg cu500 I don't speak very well English... I have the problem that I cannot install games in the cellular one.. I want to modify the java but I am not able to I don't understand some instruciones... I already have the program bitpim please helps me





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