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705SH/SX633 is unlocked!
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Posted by: stealthy1

I know that the word around is that the 705SH is still locked, but that is not completely true. The truth is that the Japanese 705SH is locked, but the HK SX633 is unlockable. There is one catch, though. The unlock can only be done by a SmarTone-Vodafone rep, and that you must buy the HK SX633 @ the PHONE ONLY PRICE, which is 3,880HKD for the pink and the silver, or 300 HKD more for the black. How do I know this, you may ask? Simple, because I am a Canadian in HK visiting and decided to buy a new phone, and I bought the SX633, which they promptly unlocked for me. I will post pics if you guys do not believe me, but you HK ppl go ask the SmarTone rep's. BTW, the SX633 still has the ASV screen from the 903SH/SX833, only it is .2" smaller.

HTH

Posted by: EMAGDNIM

Oh I want to see some pics of this (Can't wait!)...

Posted by: simony

then 705SH is not unlocked, only SX633

Posted by: Desert_Fox

Sexy! How much did you buy the phone for? Retail price or Priceplus price?

Posted by: ayu61200

It's unlocable because the SX633 is NOT a 705SH, but a 770SH (european model name). Looks exactly like the 705SH but it is NOT a 705SH. It does not record QVGA video (just QCIF), it has a slower CPU, it has less memory, and worse GPU. It's a cheap handicapped version of the 705SH, using the same platform of the 550SH in Europe, but in the thin format clamshell case the 705SH sports.

The way to make a difference from their lookings? The external screen on the 705SH is slightly wider than the external screen of the 770SH or SX633.

Posted by: sketch143

i think it was pretty much confirmed that it has 2.0 MP which automatically proves that sx633 is not 770

Posted by: shungo

but i think the 705SH is better in some way, like the screen is a little bit bigger and other stuff

Posted by: stealthy1

True, true, I guess I should have made the title a bit clearer. The thing is that the 705SH and the SX633 might be mixed up (much like how we call the SX833 the 903 even though technically it is the SX833 in HK). And sketch is right, I was referring to the 705SH, which does record QVGA and has 2.0MP, which proves that it is not the 770 in the first place.

For the people who posted more up, I bought it retail for 3,880 HKD, which in CND is just a bit more than 550 CND.

This post is more of a notice to those people who travel to Hong Kong frequently and would like an alternative to the 903SH (although I can't say that it can replace it altogether). I haven't had a chance to test out the firmware on the 705, although I will do so if requested (I am on vacation here.)

Most companies that produce phones will produce differences in their different country models in order for them to distinguish between which country of orgin it came from. Although it may be difficult to see the differences, all phones have this "safety feature." For example, you go to HK to buy a 903. You walk into a store and buy a 903. Everything looks and works ok, but how are you supposed to know whether the guy has not put a Euro 903 shell on a Japanese firmware inside? Those are what the slight differences are for.

Anyway, I will post pics once I get back to Canada (or when I can get hold of a sim card that doesn't use SmarTone as its provider here).
All in all, I guess it was a mistake to name this post that the 705SH is unlockable, although for those you in Japan, I think that if you do pay the retail price (the phone only price), they will unlock it for you.
However, the unlock is still not possible to the public or if you go to private phone shops.

HTH clear things up

Posted by: P5010

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Originally Posted by stealthy1

All in all, I guess it was a mistake to name this post that the 705SH is unlockable, although for those you in Japan, I think that if you do pay the retail price (the phone only price), they will unlock it for you.
However, the unlock is still not possible to the public or if you go to private phone shops.

HTH clear things up

hmm... can you get a softbank rep to unlock a 904 in japan
or (Smartone-Voda) in HK if you paid full price for it then ??

EDIT: is 904 even offered by Smar-Voda in HK?

unrelated...
K800 is only 3580 handset only... cheaper than SX633 ?!?!
http://www.smartone-vodafone.com/js...l_v2.jsp?id=434

Posted by: kaizoku_san

Quote:

Originally Posted by P5010

No 904 is offered by Smartone/Vodafone in HK, and you cannot pay Voda Japan to unlock it.. people have already tried. They either don't know what you're talking about, or when they do, they say they won't do it.

Posted by: hankit

Search the forum for more details on sx633..i have posted some pics and this has been discussed in detail.

Just to gets some points straighten out...
Sx633 is NOT 705SH...but it uses 705SH PARTS (you can say)...
The reason is that, SX633 is some what a hybrid between the 770sh and 705sh. People have confirm that (i think AL999, has confirm this) that it runs on705sh motherboard or chip set (please correct me if im wrong)...

While the external part of the screen is from a 770sh...not sure if the main screen is from 770sh as well...
Thats the reason why you notice there is a slight difference in the external screen compare to 705sh...

Now in the terms on 705sh unlocking...its a very questionable thing since people said if it runs on the same chip/motherboard why not it doesnt unlock or flash the 705sh....
Answer...no one knows...not even in Jerry in IMA know since i asked him myself....

Hope this clear out some points...
BTW my 770sh is up for grab...pm me for detail!

Posted by: AL9999

Tim and Kevo confirmed the PCB similarities. I have nothing to do with all that stuff, hehe.

Anyway the problem with unlocking is that the software running the 705SH and SX633 is completely different. The 705SH is running the newer user interface developed for the 904SH and 905SH, while the SX633 runs the older one that's been around since the 902SH days. Sharp refers to the older UI as version 1.0 and the newer one 1.1 (in their Bluetooth SIG submissions). Unlocks are done in the software, not the hardware, which is why a successful unlock of the SX633 doesn't make any difference whatsoever to a potential 705SH unlock. All versions of the 903SH on the other hand (903SH, Sharp 903, SX833, WX-T91) all ran similar firmware, and they were all based on the same base firmware, which is why once an unlock came out for the JP firmware it was simple to apply it to all the other versions. It's also why cross-flashing worked so well for them, and why it's far from problem-free with the 705SH/SX633/770SH (that clown Terenshi has managed it but if you've seen his screenshots you'll have seen the sub-screen display the wrong size of letters).

If a successful unlock was made of the 904SH, then an unlock of the 705SH would be closer to fruition. This is despite the hardware of the two being completely different. Hope everyone understands now (it's not the first time I've said it...).

Posted by: stealthy1

Thank you to the two above posts for clearing it up. The only reason that I posted this is for the Hong Kong people, simply because I know that the SX633 (people DO call it the 705SH in HK). Anyway, what I was trying to say was that because the SmarTone people unlocked it for me, there is a slight possibility that the Vodafone people may know how to unlock the 705SH. Please do not flame me for this, it is simply a matter of thinking.
And to clear things up, I did not say in my post anywhere that the SX633 was identical the the 705SH, I simply said that because the SX633 can be unlocked by SmarTone ppl, the 705SH MAY POSSIBLY be unlocked by Vodafone ppl. I also do know for a fact when I wrote my post that the SX633 is not the same as the 705SH.

For those people who are looking for a 705SH but don't want to wait, consider going for a SX633, which is unlockable, and that it is similar (not identical, although they are close to it) to the Japanese 705SH

In theory, since an unlock is possible for the SX633, then an unlock is not very far off from the 705SH (because the 2 are so similar).

HTH (for the third time)

Posted by: kms-lai

In short, if you buy the SX633 on contract, the phone is locked to smt, you can pay a fee at the end of contract period, approximate HK$600 to unlock in.

And if you buy the SX633 off contract, it will be unlocked, price HK$3880 and HK$4180.

kms