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How many here use Microsoft Voice Command?
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Posted by: JCJiffy

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Originally Posted by Death_Dealer

Please make sure your bluetooth headset is paired and you are in headset profile, then install microsoft vc 1.6, this will make sure it will install properly. This is the way i got it too intiate through bluetooth headset, if I dont have it paired and in heaset profile before install, it wont work for some reason, ahh well, must be some bug.

I had my Samsung WEP200 paired already, but my bj would not allow me to set it into Headset profile for some reason? I could choose other profiles, but choosing the Headset profile would not take.

Any ideas on why this might be?

Posted by: claudeh

I posted this on another thread as well but thought it might help here to:

Good day,

I too bit the bullet and bought MSVC 1.6 for SP and installed it on the wife’s Cingular 3125’s main memory and did the usual settings (VC is On, Always available, announce via BT if available, etc.), assigned it to the record button and it was working fine and has very good accuracy when speaking from the handset.

VC 1.6 would NOT initiate or reliably announce via the Plantronics Voyager UNTIL I soft reset the phone.

Once the phone was soft reset the BT button initiates VC reliably on the 1st push AND VC now responds to commands given via the BT headset.

A SOFT RESET is the extra needed step to get your BT headset and VC to play nice with each other.

Hope this helps.

Claude H.

Posted by: TruBlu01

What are the app1, app2 and so on for Voice Button? I would like to use a button other than the normal voice button on the side of the screen.

Posted by: john1027

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Originally Posted by TruBlu01

What are the app1, app2 and so on for Voice Button? I would like to use a button other than the normal voice button on the side of the screen.

Still haven't figured that out either. For those using this with the Blackjack, you can reassign the long press function on either the jog dial and/or back button on the right side to VC under setting>key settings. I've got the back button set that way and it works very well and the long press is easily done one handed with your thumb (assuming you are holding the phone in your right hand).

Posted by: hylton

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Originally Posted by TruBlu01

What are the app1, app2 and so on for Voice Button? I would like to use a button other than the normal voice button on the side of the screen.

Depending on which button you want to use, you can just change the SHORT_CAMERA, SHORT_POC, LONG_CAMERA, LONG_POC files in the Windows folder to kick off VC...instead of assigning thru the VC setup interface. I'm assuming those App 1, App 2, etc are hardware buttons on PPC and smartphones, but knowing which applies to which button isn't obvious and even if you figured it out, I imagine the shortcut files would override whatever the software had set anyway.

I've got VC 1.5 assigned to the SHORT_CAMERA and SHORT_POC, as well as a voice tag (gets me around having to have jetware).

Chris

Posted by: TruBlu01

So how would I do that if I wanted to press and hold 0 to start VC?

Posted by: CarbineReloaded

Anyone know where I can get a list of commands for Voice Command? Would be nice to find out for sure what I can do with it..... Already used the wrong phrasing a few times. (ver 1.5)

Posted by: ebadger

http://search.live.com/results.aspx...en-us&FORM=LVSP

Posted by: TruBlu01

I can email you VC 1.6 user guide. When you installed 1.5 it should have created a program group on your computers start menu, which is where the guide is.

Oh well there you have it!

Posted by: john1027

Here's a link to MS help for v 1.5.

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmob.../tutorials.mspx

Posted by: john1027

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Originally Posted by JwY

do you still have your excalibur? if you do, could you let me know if you got it working on it? thanks

JwY, I did load it today on the s620, and it works fine just as other are posting.

Posted by: lagsun

I have VC 1.6 with the new Samsung Blackjack and it works on the phone. However, I can't get my Plantronics Discovery 655 BT headset to initiate VC. Is anyone else having this problem with VC 1.6?

Posted by: TruBlu01

Did you have it paired before the install of 1.6? Have you done a soft reset?

Posted by: lamb_chops

Hi folks,

I just upgraded to 1.6 on my IPAQ HX 6925 but I do not seem to be able to get the H700 attention button to work with the software. I carefully followed all of the previous posts but figured that I should just re-install. when I removed 1.6 from my IPAQ and tried to install it again by re-runing the setup program xx11-18740.exe on my computer I get the error message "Microsoft Voice Command version 1.0, 1.01, 1.50, or 1.51 must be installed on this Desktop PC and not installed on the Device. This upgrade cannot continue".

I then tried reloading 1.5 on my ipaq and uninstalling it again (so that it would be loaded on the desktop but not the ipaq but this still did not solve the problem. Help!!

Posted by: lagsun

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Originally Posted by TruBlu01

Did you have it paired before the install of 1.6? Have you done a soft reset?

It was paired and I'm not sure how to do a soft reset on the Blackjack. After the call is made using VC on the phone then I can hear through the BT headset.

Posted by: jameskk

I have tried pairing my BT headset (2 different ones and 1 car kit) before and after installing VC on my Blackjack but cannot get it to initiate either. I think MS still has some work to do.

Posted by: jameskk

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Originally Posted by Death_Dealer

ah yeah, I tried it this way (both ways actually after several hard resets) but no dice. Voice command works fine on my blackjack but will not initiate when button is pressed on my BT headsets.

Posted by: TruBlu01

Was this working with VC 1.5 and jetware? I noticed with the old setup, I had to hold the button on my BT headset. I've yet to test 1.6 with my headset yet.

Posted by: lamb_chops

folks, I am wondering whether this might have something to do with whether or not the device (3125 vs. IPAQ 6925 has a Microsoft based bluetooth stack. I'm pretty positive that the 3125 does (and that might explain why some folks can get it to work) and I am equally certain that the HX6925 doesn't...

Posted by: lamb_chops

The bad news is that I still can't get 1.6 to re-install after removing it. What a pain!

Posted by: mobilehavoc

One thing I didn't realize is that my 3125 is application unlocked. Those of you having problems should make sure your devices are app unlocked. Not saying this will fix the issue but 1.6 worked perfectly for me after install and a soft-reset...

I've been using it since yesterday and it's working great! Only difference between my 3125 since I took it out of the Cingular box is that I app unlocked it.

Posted by: jonburge

The software works flawlessly once installed correctly. For people having problems with update, you should not have update with Smartphone edition. There are two versions, one for ppc and one for Smartphone. The question about having 1.5 on computer first has to do with the update to the ppc version. I had the same problem and had to manually uninstall 1.6 from computer, make sure 1.5 was installed and then install update. Again, this was for the ppc version, which also works through bluetooth.

Posted by: DaveTreo300600

If I install 1.6 on either a 3125 or a Blackjack, will I be able to use it with more than one BT headset? I like to keep one BT at work and another at home. Can I pair both with, say, the BJ?

Posted by: hidden_dragon

So, with v1.5, one needs Jetware for the bluetooth extension. Is this now built-in to v1.6?

Posted by: john1027

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Originally Posted by jameskk

I have tried pairing my BT headset (2 different ones and 1 car kit) before and after installing VC on my Blackjack but cannot get it to initiate either. I think MS still has some work to do.

Now that I've had VC installed for a day on the Blackjack, on the device its working fine for me and the feature i normally use. It seems to be very accurate. I use it for dialing a number, contact look-ups and contact dialing, and battery level check. I made about 20 calls today and only missed once or twice. I cannot get my WEP 200 to initiate a VC call with the one press feature. I can initiate the call on the device and the BT will pick it up. I use call confirm for both the dialing a # and the contact dialing and that is working. I don't usually use it, but the next appointmment feature is working also. I mapped VC to the long press on the back button on the right side of the phone and that works well also. At least from my limited trial, its only the initiate the call from the BT that is not working right now. BTW, I did install Jetware and that did not help either.

Posted by: john1027

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Originally Posted by john1027

JwY, I did load it today on the s620, and it works fine just as other are posting.

I should clarify that i didn't get a chance to try it with BT yet but from what i'm seeing on the BJ and other posts here, it will not call iniatiate from the BT. Otherwise, everything else seems to work.

Posted by: ebadger

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Originally Posted by john1027

Would someone with a Blackjack mind reporting the value of the registry key

HKLM\software\microsoft\bluetooth\audiogateway\bth agextmodule

Posted by: lamb_chops

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Originally Posted by lamb_chops

folks, I am wondering whether this might have something to do with whether or not the device (3125 vs. IPAQ 6925 has a Microsoft based bluetooth stack. I'm pretty positive that the 3125 does (and that might explain why some folks can get it to work) and I am equally certain that the HX6925 doesn't...

Folks, I was able to confirm that unfortuantely the IPAQ will not be able to "call initiate" with the BT button becuase it does not have a Microsoft BT stack. This is may be a problem for other MM5 phones too. Note: the Cingular 3125 does have a MS BT stack.

I should note that even though you can't initiate a call by pressing the attention key on the bt headset all audio does seem to be functioniong through the BT headset (once pressing the record button on the IPAQ I can tell it to dial using the headset or lookup a contact and it repeats the contacts name through the headset). So it is certainly usable just not "perfect"! Lastly, to get audio working through the BT headset I did have to tell the ipaq to send all audio to the headset if connected (you do this by clicking on the headset icon once paired). One last note I am using MS VC 1.6. All basic VC functions (battery charge, signal strength and dial xxx seem to work fine).

Posted by: JwY

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Originally Posted by john1027

thanks again john, you're a great help. i just hope it isn't too resource hungry/intensive.

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Originally Posted by CarbineReloaded

Anyone know where I can get a list of commands for Voice Command? Would be nice to find out for sure what I can do with it..... Already used the wrong phrasing a few times. (ver 1.5)

did you try saying help? it will give you a list of what you can say.

Posted by: john1027

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Originally Posted by ebadger

Would someone with a Blackjack mind reporting the value of the registry key

HKLM\software\microsoft\bluetooth\audiogateway\bth agextmodule

ebadger,

I see a BTAGExtModule with a string of \ProgramFiles\Voice Command\vcbthag.dll.

If that's not what you are looking for, let me know. John

note: if it helps you clear this up and its easier to do so via phone, PM me and I'll be happy to oblige, if it helps address the matter.

Posted by: conan_troutman

1.6 defo has bt voive dialing but only when installed to phone and not memo card.

what i want to do though is find away to delay the reading of text messages just long enough so that if i am in my car I will first get the notification sound then have time to reduce the volume of my stereo then i can here the content of the message read to me. unless of course you can make it read it again but i haven't found how to do that either.

also note 1.6 seems to take up less physical space than the 1.5 version just wish they had a uk version as I have had to go with the US version for now

Posted by: Chiptransisto

So, will voice command 1.6 work on the BlackJack or not?

Can you use your bluetooth headset for voice commands or not?

Posted by: john1027

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Originally Posted by Chiptransisto

So, will voice command 1.6 work on the BlackJack or not?

Can you use your bluetooth headset for voice commands or not?

In my case and some others, it appears that the smartphone version works except for bt initiated calling. You can initiate the call on the device and the bt will pick it up. I have not seen any posts where someone has been able to get the call initiate feature working on the BJ or the Dash. There are a couple users whose experience in installing to the BJ has not worked as well.

I do not use the incoming notification features and have not had time to try them out. All of the outgoing caller initiated features work on my BJ. You need to realize that this new version was just released to the masses in the last couple days so much of this is just ongoing now. Hopefully, as the bugs emerge, MS will be able to address them quickly in updates.

Posted by: dgelfuso

The SM edition of Voice Command 1.6 works with my blackjack, except for the initiating calls from my bluetooth and I also don't hear commands through the my Motorola H3 headset. Once I initiate the call, it does transfer to the headset.

Posted by: dgelfuso

Actually, I can't hear anything out of the blackjack relative to Voice Command 1.6 for SM.

Posted by: amg212

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Originally Posted by dgelfuso

Actually, I can't hear anything out of the blackjack relative to Voice Command 1.6 for SM.

Same here. No matter what profile the phone is in or what volume the speaker is set at, I hear NOTHING from the device when using VC 1.6. The device is clearly hearing my commands and acting on them, but I'm getting no audible feedback. This is real problem!

(Also VC+BT doesn't work at all)

Posted by: lamb_chops

Bummer, I just wrote a long post but hit a key and lost it!!! How frustrating.

My takeaway from the above posts is that VC 1.6 is still very usable for a number of devices but that it is also still a bit quirky.

I have tested it on both a 3125 and a 6925. The 3125 has the MS BT stack and the 6925 doesn't. The only thing really missing on the 6925 functionality wise is the ability to initiate a call by pressing my "attention" button on the BT headset. Oddly the 6925 actually is more reliable about announcing the name of incomming calls "Call from Joe Smith" for example on my 6925 than on my 3125. I suspect this is because in addition to setting VC up to send audio to BT inside of the VC1.6 setup there may also be something you have to do inside of the OS. On the 6925 this was accomplished by clicking on the headset ICON. This brought up a nice selection box that gave me two choices, send phone data y/n and send all other audio y/n to BT. So far I have not been able to find a way to do the same thing with the 3125 and therefore only occasionaly do I hear calls announced in my headset.

Regarding the blackjack I am pretty certain that we will ultimatly find out that this device does not have a MS BT stack and that this is why the "initiate" button isn't working on the BT Headset. Others seems to be saying that they are also not hearing VC 1.6 audio in their headsets (like "Call Joe Smith?" in response to their command) but I would suspect that this is becuase they have not told VC to send audio to their headsets but it may be more than that. It is a shame that things are not working better with the Blackjack as this is a really interesting device that seems to be a perfect bridge between a phone and a blackberry (not too big and not too small). I suspect this device will be extreemly popular so haveing VC work correctly with this device would be a real advantage for Microsoft. Also, the excuse that there are different BT stacks doesn't really stand up well when you are trying to market the idea that Windows Moblie 5.0 phones are the same (clearly they aren't but it would sure be nice if things were more consistant between them).

Posted by: dgelfuso

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Originally Posted by amg212

I got it working after I found out my volume was turned off. When not in a call, press the volume up arrow to anything other than zero and it should work. You also need to make sure you set up VC to announce.

Posted by: mobilehavoc

To re-iterate, for Blackjack users...give this software a try: www.jetwaremobile.com to add BT-initiated VC.

Posted by: john1027

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Originally Posted by mobilehavoc

To re-iterate, for Blackjack users...give this software a try: www.jetwaremobile.com to add BT-initiated VC.

I have and still couldn't get it working. I also had the 3125 and had everything working well with the help of Jetware. Unfortunately, at least so far, it has not helped with the call initiate with either the BJ or the Excalibur. If someone has done so, I have not seen the post.

Posted by: amg212

I've been able to get VC 1.6 to work with my Blackjack (prior problems resolved by uninstalling and reinstalling) - Now on to Bluetooth... If anyone is succesful using BT-initiated VC on a Blackjack, please post here how you got it to work. I'm a bit concerned about trying Jetware - when I used their trial on my 8125 (to resolve a different problem), it solved one problem and created two more. I'm going to wait to install it on my Blackjack until someone else posts a success story :-)

Thanks!!

Alan

Posted by: mobilehavoc

Shame really - no way I'm getting the Blackjack if you can't use VoiceCommand over BT...which to me is the main reason for VC. If you have to use it on the phone, most of the times quicker just to use Contacts/Dial the number itself.

For what it's worth, those that MUST have a perfectly working VoiceCommand over Bluetooth - v1.6 for smartphone works FLAWLESSLY with the Cing 3125 (HTC StarTrk) - no Jetware or anything needed. Had it since it was released last week and it's unbelievable. Very reliable, fast and it now understands digit dialing perfectly...it's actually yet to miss a command I've given it over BT even in noisy environments.

Everyone has their preference but I honestly don't think I can use another phone that doesn't have speaker-indepdent voice dialing over BT. It's a requirement now.

Posted by: TruBlu01

Yes, Jetware is not needed with 1.6, but is with 1.5

Posted by: Death_Dealer

someone hack and trick mvc 1.6 into thinking blackjack has microsoft bluetooth stack. anyways what ringtone are using with msvc 1.6 when you got incoming call notification enabled, it really lowers my ringtone volume. time to see how to correct this

Posted by: john1027

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Originally Posted by mobilehavoc

Everyone has their preference but I honestly don't think I can use another phone that doesn't have speaker-indepdent voice dialing over BT. It's a requirement now.

I agree. From what this looks like, as outlined by lambchops earlier, is it is a bluetooth stack problem or lack of. Hopefully, MS will jump on this and come up with a fix because otheer thean the BT issues (which is huge) its working as advertised. From some of the post in the Cingualr forum, some of the highend cars with bt built-in are also having problems with the BJ.

Posted by: lamb_chops

Hi, I just thought I would let everyone know that there are problems with the Motorola H700 BT headset with VC 1.6 and the 3125. The problem I am having is that incoming calls are not announced on the headset (oddly new messages are). I originally thought that it was just something with my phone so I completely reset the 3125 back to factory defaults and re-installed VC 1.6 (I remebered to pair the phone with the headset first and to unlock it). Everything behaved exactly as before and just for grins I tried a brand new 2nd H700 that I had and it too worked exactly the same way.

Oddly everything else works great but it just bugs me that I can't hear the caller ID announced correctly on the BT headset. Note: I also don't hear a tone either I just get the Motorola twotone announce. The manual for the H700 I believe indicates that the tone I am hearing "two descending tones" means mute is disabled? This makes no sense but that it was it says.

Also, I know the headsets are working properly because I do hear calls anounced correctly on my HX6925.

Bummer.

Posted by: Death_Dealer

lamb_chops voice command is very buggy.

Posted by: ebadger

Lamb_Chops,

Voice Command will not announce incoming calls on devices with the MS BT stack until Windows Mobile 5.3+. Windows Mobile does not support inband ringtone in the MS BT stack until 5.3. You are able to get this on the HP because you have the widcomm stack.

Posted by: ebadger

death dealer, how do you figure exactly?

Posted by: Death_Dealer

well my 3125 only announces calls about half the time through bluetooth, it works whenever it feels like it. I also wish it only announced the name only if you have the contact in the phone book rather then mike on mobile, I rather prefer Mike. on mobile is very annoying. It should have a option to change the volume of notification. few other issues I don't recall right now.

thanks

Posted by: mobilehavoc

If you really need that, get JetwareMobile that will announce calls over BT and will play the ringtone over BT too.

www.jetwaremobile.com. Haven't tried it with VC 1.6 but imagine it'll work fine.

Posted by: Death_Dealer

no thanks I dont need jetware

Posted by: ebadger

Samsung Blackjack users - I have just installed on a Samsung Blackjack device and I am able to use Voice Commands over the BT headset. I had to turn the volume down on the BT headset before it would start recognizing commands.

Posted by: spartanrob

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Originally Posted by mobilehavoc

If you really need that, get JetwareMobile that will announce calls over BT and will play the ringtone over BT too.

www.jetwaremobile.com. Haven't tried it with VC 1.6 but imagine it'll work fine.

I cannot get jetware to work. It's a great utility but it won't install in the blackjack. Anyone get it to install?

Posted by: Death_Dealer

please post in the new thread for users who are now using msvc 1.6:

http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1048760

Posted by: mobilehavoc

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Originally Posted by ebadger

Samsung Blackjack users - I have just installed on a Samsung Blackjack device and I am able to use Voice Commands over the BT headset. I had to turn the volume down on the BT headset before it would start recognizing commands.

Looks like you're the only one. Would be great if it worked for everyone - then I might consider getting a Blackjack but the way things look, no one is having luck getting VC 1.6 to work with the Blackjack over BT.

Posted by: DaveTreo300600

For those who have successfully installed V.C 1.6 on the BJ, what hardware key are you using---if any---to initiate a voice command and/or a telephone call using the V.C. software?

Posted by: john1027

Dave, I had one until today when I returned it opting to stay with the S620. I had it working except call initiate from the headset. There is a built-in option to remap the right side end key (long press) to whatever you chose. I tagged VC and it worked real well that way.

Posted by: ebadger

On the Blackjack, are you hearing feedback in the microphone when you press and hold the voice dial button? Does the microphone icon appear on the screen when pressing and holding the voice dial button?

Posted by: DaveTreo300600

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Originally Posted by john1027

Dave, I had from the headset. There is a built-in option to remap the right side end key (long press) to whatever you chose. I tagged VC and it worked real well that way.

Thanks for the tip.

Posted by: Death_Dealer

please use this thread for troubleshooting, this thread needs to move to the following thread if you want us to help fix your issues:

http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1048760

Posted by: dgelfuso

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Originally Posted by DaveTreo300600

For those who have successfully installed V.C 1.6 on the BJ, what hardware key are you using---if any---to initiate a voice command and/or a telephone call using the V.C. software?

I used the "record" option under VC which allows you to hold either the up or down volume key to initiate VC. I also remapped my right soft key to VC.

Posted by: DaveTreo300600

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Originally Posted by dgelfuso

I used the "record" option under VC which allows you to hold either the up or down volume key to initiate VC. I also remapped my right soft key to VC.

Two great tips! Thanks.

Posted by: thinlyveiled

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Originally Posted by ebadger

Ed, which headset did you verify is working? I want to make sure that whatever I get for my Blackjack is VC compatible. (Yes, I'm running v1.6.)

Posted by: Gunner1

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Originally Posted by ebadger

Since noone else has this working maybe you could elaborate.

Posted by: lamb_chops

I have a blackjack and I believe the confusion here is what does it mean "I have it working". The distinction that needs to be made is whether it is working through the BT headset (with or without headset initiation) . And whether any other notifications are correctly routed to the BJ.

I have done a lot of playing with this (see my previous summary in the 1.6 stream) and I am convinced that the only thing working on the BlackJack is phone initiated (not BT) voice commands and when you do this you hear the confirmation voice back in the Blackjack speaker not in your BT headset.

Posted by: JNGold

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Originally Posted by lamb_chops

I have done a lot of playing with this (see my previous summary in the 1.6 stream) and I am convinced that the only thing working on the BlackJack is phone initiated (not BT) voice commands and when you do this you hear the confirmation voice back in the Blackjack speaker not in your BT headset.

My understanding was that you would need to open the BT channel first (by pressing the headset), activate BT dialing on the Blackjack itself, then issue the command via the BT headset.

What a PIA (if indeed this is the way it works). This issue alone has soured me on the device. At least with my KJAM, I can activate VC via the headset.

Posted by: DaveTreo300600

The last post on this thread is over two months old. I am still thinking about getting VC 1.6 for my Blackjack and just wonder if there has ben any new experiences in the last couple of months re using this on the Blackjack. I am particularly interested in answers to the following two questions:

1) Has anyone been able to initiate a call from their BT headset?

2) If you have to intiate the call from the Blackjack, do you hear confirmation of who is being called through your BT headset or through the speaker on the Blackjack itself?

Thank you.

Posted by: thinlyveiled

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Originally Posted by DaveTreo300600

1) Has anyone been able to initiate a call from their BT headset?

No. It just doesn't work.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveTreo300600

2) If you have to intiate the call from the Blackjack, do you hear confirmation of who is being called through your BT headset or through the speaker on the Blackjack itself?

Through the onboard speaker.

Posted by: Gunner1

BJ + VC1.6 is a joke, not worth the money right now, and there's no indication Samsung is going to fix it either.

Posted by: DaveTreo300600

Thank you. That pretty much answers it for me!

Posted by: Rexahn

Hello,

I searched this thread for stuff relating to remapping the Camera button, finding only a post that describes how to map it to another app.

However, I would just like to disable the function of the button completely.

Could someone let me know how to do this?

Thanks much!

**EDIT: ahh crap, I posted this in the wrong thread. Sorry!